How about instead of initiative trackers that just look like popsicle sticks, you cnc basic player outlines (thief, fighter paladin, wizard) using waste wood, to the same thickness and the players can color them in and give them to the dm to use? God, I want to work at Wyrmwood!
for the trackers the abilty to put a pice of card with our own art on would make them "more" useful than haveing to get a "custom" one eveytime a player changes whos playing what
I would love a small magnetic dice organizer and I think others would too. It doesn’t even need to hold many dice, I’d be happy with one of each but bonus points if it has room for two of each. As a DM I have a lot going on behind the screen, if I could simplify that partially by having my dice easily accessible by type mounted to my screen it would save me time and which translates to a better game for my players.
Not everyone uses mini's some people do other systems or they use computer representation via roll20, foundry, etc even in person. I am one of those people!
I will point out that using status rings, you don't need anything special so long as you don't make the trackers too wide. Homebrew & store-bought rings can just fit over the tracker
the only one i would want for me is concentration. all the other ones players are good at remebering but concentration would be grat to have a reminder, and its only one so it easy
Putting another magnet set at the bottom of the panels of the GM screen sounds like a great idea. I mean for one, you can use the tablet hook as a pen/pencil holder. Another great way to incorporate more of your product ecosystem is that you guys can make the GM screens lock onto Hex trays, dice vaults, etc.
I love how Jason is trying to make a hex dice tower when Bennett already made the perfect hex tower that was also fully modular but was passed on. So I am again asking for that to be considered. Day 1 asking for hex tower
@@audoldends6799 because the ones in charge, aren't actually gamers ? Its like edison vs tesla; you can scream that edison was an inventor till you are literally purple in the face, but if you look at the details, it is repeatedly provable that he is a business-man. Comparatively, i don't think doug (nor his company superiors) is really in it for providing gaming materials and accessories to the community, from either side of the aisle (making profits or making cool gaming stuff). so, it kinda begs the question ..... what is wyrmwood as a company, really doing ? What is its Real Purpose ?
I like the hex tower idea, but I remember Bennet had already a good prototype for it? Specially the size and number of steps, Jason's is just insanely overcomplicated.
I love the tablet holder idea and I love the public/private dice tower idea! The status tracker is something I would want, but yeah, seems like a tough design. What if the top of the initiative tracker had holes drilled in it and you had color coded pegs that slot in like cribbage pegs? The DM can assign whatever status they want to different colors or you could have little symbols etched into the top to represent different statuses
Conditions can be side mounted then can add on from there. Dice tower could click into the screen with magnets as a panel extension. Mini shelves would be cool. LED logo part on front would be cool. Dice holder add on. Pencil holder. What if the iPad needs to be charged? Magnetic initiative trackers? Etc... I can go on lol I actually 3d printed my own screen with some of these ideas integrated into it.
Love the tablet holder idea. Y'all ever play Scrabble? I think the shape you're looking for is quite similar to a Scrabble tile holder: just a long, low wooden bar with a lip. Leave off the edges that keep letter tiles on, kick it out a bit more at the bottom (too steep an angle makes a tablet hard to read and interact with), run it the full width of the GM screen panel, attach to the panel with magnets, and voilà.
For status trackers, make them stack above the initiative tracker. The top of the initiative tracker as well as each status would narrow in at the top (for a visual, look up a capital A in the Westminster font). This would let each one fit onto the one below it. The tolerances would need to be loose enough that one in the middle or on the bottom of a stack could be removed easily, but still tight enough that a stack of 5+ wouldn't be wobbly. For another visual, imagine a stack of 9 oz Solo cups (statuses) on top of a single 18 oz Solo cup (initiative) - only mostly all flattened out instead of round. Also: the tablet holder is an easel. It's a Tablet Easel, and you could actually make it work similar to a fold up picture easel, but instead of a single center hinge, a hinge on each side so you can adjust it for a wider or narrower tablet or whatever you want to hold up.
The tablet holder sounds amazing! I personally use a phone to control music, one to always have my player's stats up on D&D Beyond, and a tablet to run everything else. If the little wooden holders could optionally be put closer together to hold phones as well it would be amazing. I'd love to see some little dice-holding shelves you could attach to the magnet strips at the top, or a mini magnetic dice tower for the inside, if you're planning on adding more optional accessories. All in all, this looks like an incredible product. Can't wait to get my hands on one!
Dude the idea of a tablet holder is freakin' perfect! Cannot wait to get my hands on your final GM screen! My current one is 14 years old and barely holding on.
Should add magnets to the side of Jason's dice tower idea, so that the DM screen can have panels flanking it on both sides. Boom, integrated dice tower into the DM's set up, complete with public and private rolls.
If your looking for dice tower integration. How about alternate side walls to your current dice tower so it slots into the GM screen. That way people that already have a dice tower just need a upgrade and people that don’t just purchase a dice tower with that option selected.
yknow what wyrmlyfe needs.... It needs a lil clip on microphone for the cameraman, whoever that sexy beast may be. Because their voice is the only voice in the entire company to be muffled because they're talking into the back of the microphone. Also, an idea for the condition tracking. Could you make thin acrylic sleeves that slot over the initiative trackers (like small rectangles super short so you could stack them vertically on the tracker) That would solve the messiness of the rings, which I know that you were trying to include the rings, but I don't believe that there's a solution that's clean enough for your tastes. Love Wyrmlyfe so much. You guys are awesome!
MGT magnetic rail compatibility would be rad! You guys make a player desk for the MGT, how about a DM desk? Make it extra wide, can slot in a DM screen and the new batch of accessories. If you guys did a public private tower then you could also attach it to the DM desk so that the private one dropped off onto the DM desk and the public one rolled out onto the table top
For condition tracking, what if the tracker had a little slot in the top with a magnet, and then each condition also had that slot and magnet? You could daisy-chain them together for multiple conditions, and maybe make them out of whiteboard stuff so you can write on them and thus not have to give people a million of them. Something like this, maybe: __ __ | |___| | | | Status widget |___| | | | V __ __ | |___| | | | Initiative Tracker | | | | | | | |
Going to agree with a lot of other comments, condition rings go on the mini. Or players track them or something like that, don't need the visual clutter up top. While the 2 way dice tower is cool. I'd never use it. 99% of my rolls are private. For the maybe 1 roll a session that I do public, I can just roll on the table or communal dice tray. For a tablet holder, I feel like most tablets already come with covers or kickstands that put them at a good angle, I don't see the need for an additional solution. Also agree with others, a storage solution like you had in the original would be very handy. I'd argue it could just as easily be a stand-alone product, doesn't need tower integration. Something with a number of compartments for my spare dice (for large spell damage), storing condition trackers, a few minis, things like that.
I would go with a wooden initiative tracker that’s an inch wide and and inch tall. As thick as the screen or a little thinner. Ideally, it’d just be a little block of wood with magnets on the top and bottom. Then make condition trackers that are little blocks of wood half inch tall or whatever is readable and have them click on top the initiative tracker with magnets. Making them different colors would be great. The easiest way to do that is either to make them colored acrylic or glue a thin piece of acrylic to a little block of wood. They’re always talking about the wood waste. This would be another idea to use some of the scraps up. Also I love that Jason is looking back at that original Kickstarter. That’s still the setup I’d love to have (minus maybe the flipping screen in the middle). I wouldn’t reinvent the dice tower. You sell a dice tower. Modify it to allow GM screen sections to snap on either side.
Regarding the tablet holder: Some people don't have tablets but have laptops. What if, instead of resting the tablet screen on a holder in front of the panel, you make it so that the screen could be its own panel? You could make side rails that slide over the left and right side of a tablet or laptop screen, and then those rails magnetically attach to the other panels of the GM screen. That way, regardless of whether or not it's a tablet or laptop screen, it slots easily into the GM screen.
Honestly I don't see myself using condition rings on an initiative tracker, using the rings on the minis already works great. The slot trough is a good idea!
WAIT A GODDAMN MINUTE THE TABLET HOLDER WOULD BE INCREDIBLE. I have a keyboard case on my iPad and I use it for D&D Beyond whenever I run my games. I’m on the site CONSTANTLY during sessions. I basically have a folding table to myself so I have the room for my iPad but having it on my DM screen would be amazing. Make it a little ledge and you can use it for writing utensils too, for the top OR bottom edge of your DM screen!!! I would ditch the keyboard case while DMing if I could have a cheeky little ledge on my DM screen for my iPad or even for my phone, which I ALSO use during D&D! I keep the player’s basic stats open in the D&D Beyond app so I have their HP, AC and passive stats at a glance.
Scrap the condition tracker idea. Easiest thing is to give us a bit of space on the initiative tracker and we can write the conditions or whatever information we need. The Screen slot/ tablet trough is a great idea. Not everything about the GM screen has to be formed around d&d rules and should be kept as a nice looking blank canvas for us to put what we need as GMs onto it.
The tablet holder seems like a really good idea however the weight of the tablet(and the fact that you manipulate the tablet by pushing against it and the screen) may create some stability issues. It might be a good idea to create feet that exist on the outside of the gm screen (facing the players) that clip onto the bottom of the gm screen panels. These feet would also be attached to the "stand" on the inside of the gm screen as one solid piece. That way you could slot the feet/stand onto any of the panels initially, then attach your other panels once it is situated.
I don’t have an opinion on HOW you do the tablet holder, but will absolutely be buying whatever you guys come up with there. I run my games from my iPad, so that’s a big selling point for me.
If you put the name on the bottom and made them stack upward, there is no limit to the amount of conditions because you can just keep putting them on top of each other.
If you really need condition markers on your initiative tracker, take an idea from Lego. put a depression on top of your initiative piece and make piece that slots into it that are the same dimensions as the tracker, but painted to match the condition rings. Put a depression on top of your status markers and you can stack as many as you need, a rainbow of conditions even, on each initiative tracker.
When Doug started drawing his condition ring hanger initiative tracker I thought he was drawing a puzzle piece. What if you had a pretty simple and small character initiative tracker, and then a condition status puzzle piece could slot into it. Could have separate pieces for different conditions or generic magnet pieces that use those little magnet bars.
If you're going to do the tablet trough, you will want the accessory to actually hold the bottom of the tablet. Some table / tablet combos are quite slippery and you don't want someone's tablet accidently sliding off the table.
Haven't even gotten to the end of the video, but need to say that the DM screen is a GAME CHANGER. I have the exact same problem, where using both my DM screen and a device is so clunky, but if I could merge them into one?? Beautiful. Also, I so love the Status Trackers and wish you could make them work with some sort of Lego Stacking type mechanism. It would be so useful for my game.
the Tablet legs could just pop out of the DM screen; like a partial cut out or mechanic sort of ledge so there are no separate pieces that you could lose. If you had to separate pieces, they could be stored in the screen, just incase the DM isn't using a tablet but a separate notebook, etc.
For a condition tracker. There could be a solution that could work. Using an L or U shaped metal bracket. That hooks over top of the screen and drapes down. Lazer cut wooden plates with magnetic backs can then be attached to the bracket.
If figures are used trackers only need to indicate if ANY status is in affect, because If status rings are also being used they are already on the figs. Therefore it's just a a reminder and you only need a simple singular indicator.
So idea for the tablet. I believe iPad, Samsung, and surface laptops have magnets on the inside. You should be able to use those magnets to attach it to the panel of the GM screen using the magnets already in. OR if you cut out a section and do a hinge mechanism on the bottom of the gm screen it could work.
I'd like to vote a big plus one for both the condition tracker on the screen as well as the laptop or tablet integration. I find organization of condition trackers on minis particularly difficult, especially for theater of the mind, battles, and any kind of integration to make Dndbeyond at the table feel more like "old school D&D" would be amazing.
Since tablets come in different sizes, I would think that a magnetic rest at either end, joined by a long ledge would be best since it would cater for everything. Some people might even buy 3 screens, and 3 rests. But you could also use similar clamps/rests/attachments to hang or support other things. A card with your current game's rules on it. A card with your map on it etc etc. That's assuming the entire screen isn't magnetic. Or... a thin sheet of magnetic whiteboard material, to turn the back of that screen into a whiteboard, from which you can hang more magnets for notes/rules etc.
The tablet holder is a good idea. What would even improve this idea is to either make it hollow or elevate the middle platform or ledge, so that a dice vault would slide in or fit under.
Condition rings make me think of ring toss games. Which make me think of a pole design to place rings on. Which makes me think of a pole designed to look like a wizard tower to put condition rings on.
What about making the condition trackers like puzzle pieces? They would clip into the top of the initiative tracker and be able to clip into each other, thus stacking them as high as you need.
Condition rings: fail (they go on the mini) Die Tower: Just add magnets to the existing tower product. The GM screen then clips either side "as is". Tablet holder: simplest option - two magnetised holders that fold flat in the accessory pocket of the carrier.
Initiative trackers could use color coded stat tracker slides like the ones in Mansions of Madness for tracking player character stats for DnD status effects. Less messy than the rings and you could fit more on the sides of smaller trackers etc.
If you want to display multiple statuses (statusi??) make the tracker part short and wide for the names with a slot in the top. Then have narrow slats of wood with the statuses written vertically to go in the slot.
That tower from the og screen kickstarter that has public/private option for rolling would make the difference for me if I were to back or not. I would just buy the tower, because I already have DM screens that work fine but do not have a tower like that, and no one does outside of custom work or 3d printed. I think it has more features than your current dice towers.
As a DM and player, I'd never use condition trackers/rings on the Initiative Tracking. You want them around your miniatures so you're actively seeing them on the map and thinking about how it effects your tactics. Putting them on the initiative would likely lead to forgetting they were there or having to do both. The only possible situation I see that being useful is for Theater of the Mind stuff when there's no miniatures or map.
I say abandon the conditions on the combat tracker, but sub in a way to view whether a character has its reaction available or not, like a tiny mailbox flag. The condition circles look better on the minis anyway.
@@d_dave7200 yes!!! Concentration tracker flag would make it so easy keep track of when to do concentration checks! I keep on remembering after the fact and half the time i forget the damage to base it on.
5 min in.. please don't worry about condition trackers on the initiative trackers. Imo it's trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. IF anything, have something like "held action". Edit: For the slot trough, how possible would it be to have it integrated in with the panel, so the GM could just pop it out? Then when to store it, they just fold it back in and it's flush with the panel?
Idea for the status tracker: The version where you held the status rings looks exactly like a jigsaw piece. So just make the status as jigsaw pieces that would "infinitely" stack on top of the character tracker.
What about a DM screen section that you can add (when you order it) that would have the size that would cradle in the tablet (hole size specified when ordering the screen) and then a mechanism to secure it in place. That way you don't get too much space taken away from behind the DM screen. Also for the status effects, maybe stackable triangles. Kinda like how bins stack but small oval strips with wording on them and color coded based on type of condition.
I, personally, would love condition tracking on an initative tracker, because my ADHD is stupid and I always forget to account for conditions, but if they're in my face, awesome.
Potential problem I forsee with the hanging the rings on the imitative tracker is it blocks the name on the imitative tracker, The hat version would alleviate this but both versions do look a little to cluttered IMHO. What about something similar to like the caster tile or the Paladin RPG tracking system, where you have little indentations for each status and you use ball bearing to intonate which status the player has? There are a lot of status conditions but you could probably replace some of them with colored ball bearings like have a different color for each level of exhaustion. Another possible solution would be to make the initative tracker pieces more narrow and a bit taller so the rings would slide on all the way to the bottom that way they aren't blocking the name
Y'all have a 3D printer. you can print your own shape that could fit on your initiative tracker and act as stackign lego hats or something. You can also offer the STL file to folks to print their own.
I use a laptop instead of a tablet, so the tablet holder wouldn't help me much. But I use Improved Initiative for initiative tracking, and have a player-facing screen to show them initiative, maps, or other visuals. If the tablet holder product could be player facing, I could see hunting for a portable monitor that could fit in it... So that'd save some room...
What if you did the GM screen position tracker like a "T" with a wide base that goes into the GM screen slot, and then it has the persons/characters name going down the middle of the vertical leg and have all the condition rings hanging off either side of the horizontal bar.
The condition trackers were made to be put on the minis, I think it should stay that way. Anyone would love a basic but awesome initiative tracker though. As for the tablet holder, it's almost a necessity for a lot of us and I would love to have that option available. I was recently thinking of buying an arm that would attach to the table to hold the tablet but if you can make it more convenient attaching it to the screen, I'm all ears. Overall the screen is starting to look real good!
There are theater of mind groups playing without minis. Not sure it's worth designing a complex solution for that niche market (theater of mind) within a niche market (people willing to drop $100s on D&D accessories) within a niche market (TTRPG players) but...
@@Morcarag Issue is that the solutions are very untidy. It might be worth it if there's a really good solution for it, but from this video, it doesn't seem like there is.
Sounds like chip had an idea, could have at least heard him out on it lol. I mean he knows what he wants out of it, so he'd be able to give feed back on your solutions.
Please keep thinking with the initiative tracker. Being able to elegantly track conditions would be really nice. I liked the little magnets thing, but maybe make it a bit larger, and bright colors obviously. Or have two rails so you can overlap stuff. Like having a piece for the character, and one that hovers behind and over the top which can list conditions. I know you like keeping things simple but not everyone at the consumer end likes simple, and I think a lot of those people might be DMs ;) At a bare minimum at least give me a larger tracker I can write on and put behind so I can use my own condition color coding using dry-erase markers. Having rings would be convenient for matching, but you could just as easily have your tracker magnets color match with a set of third party rings you sell anyway. If you have to do the rings thing I'd actually prefer a single hook at the top to pile them on, even if it's less cool looking. You could try to source rings with the writing facing outwards too, so that it's readable from the edge-side. The way I see it there are a lot of cool ways to do this.
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How about instead of initiative trackers that just look like popsicle sticks, you cnc basic player outlines (thief, fighter paladin, wizard) using waste wood, to the same thickness and the players can color them in and give them to the dm to use? God, I want to work at Wyrmwood!
for the tablet stand call it the DM's Lectern
for the trackers the abilty to put a pice of card with our own art on would make them "more" useful than haveing to get a "custom" one eveytime a player changes whos playing what
I would love a small magnetic dice organizer and I think others would too.
It doesn’t even need to hold many dice, I’d be happy with one of each but bonus points if it has room for two of each.
As a DM I have a lot going on behind the screen, if I could simplify that partially by having my dice easily accessible by type mounted to my screen it would save me time and which translates to a better game for my players.
Wood Initiative Trackers, use of some wood waste.
Condition trackers are not a good idea IMO. They go on the minis and that's perfect. No need to make things more complicated.
Not everyone uses mini's some people do other systems or they use computer representation via roll20, foundry, etc even in person. I am one of those people!
I will point out that using status rings, you don't need anything special so long as you don't make the trackers too wide. Homebrew & store-bought rings can just fit over the tracker
@@Shadow-dn7db then why would you track it here instead of the system in roll 20 for conditions?
the only one i would want for me is concentration. all the other ones players are good at remebering but concentration would be grat to have a reminder, and its only one so it easy
From a DM perspective it's a lot easier to glance at a tracker on your screen than to look over at the minis, even if you use minis.
Jason: "A small piece of acrylic with two magnets is a lot of work."
Also Jason: "I made a 400 piece dice tower."
Utility Sled
If the slot trough is made the right shape, it could hold a book, like a notebook, binder, players handbook, or other source books.
I know it's complicated and probably impractical, but the sound the helix tower makes when you roll dice down it is sooooooo satisfying.
The best things about these videos for me is the camera man and the one who edits the videos!
Putting another magnet set at the bottom of the panels of the GM screen sounds like a great idea. I mean for one, you can use the tablet hook as a pen/pencil holder. Another great way to incorporate more of your product ecosystem is that you guys can make the GM screens lock onto Hex trays, dice vaults, etc.
The Costanza exit was wonderful.
I'm so excited to see this to go live. The GM screen just keeps getting better!
That's an awesome design for a Dice Tower. Love the double helix idea.🤘
that tablet idea is reallly nice. so is the dice tower. those both add alot of utility to the overall design!
I love how Jason is trying to make a hex dice tower when Bennett already made the perfect hex tower that was also fully modular but was passed on. So I am again asking for that to be considered.
Day 1 asking for hex tower
Why would they pass on that masterpiece
@@audoldends6799 because the ones in charge, aren't actually gamers ? Its like edison vs tesla; you can scream that edison was an inventor till you are literally purple in the face, but if you look at the details, it is repeatedly provable that he is a business-man.
Comparatively, i don't think doug (nor his company superiors) is really in it for providing gaming materials and accessories to the community, from either side of the aisle (making profits or making cool gaming stuff).
so, it kinda begs the question ..... what is wyrmwood as a company, really doing ? What is its Real Purpose ?
@@Zoie3x8 bruh...i feel like you need to chill
I like the hex tower idea, but I remember Bennet had already a good prototype for it? Specially the size and number of steps, Jason's is just insanely overcomplicated.
I love the tablet holder idea and I love the public/private dice tower idea! The status tracker is something I would want, but yeah, seems like a tough design. What if the top of the initiative tracker had holes drilled in it and you had color coded pegs that slot in like cribbage pegs? The DM can assign whatever status they want to different colors or you could have little symbols etched into the top to represent different statuses
Conditions can be side mounted then can add on from there. Dice tower could click into the screen with magnets as a panel extension. Mini shelves would be cool. LED logo part on front would be cool. Dice holder add on. Pencil holder. What if the iPad needs to be charged? Magnetic initiative trackers? Etc... I can go on lol I actually 3d printed my own screen with some of these ideas integrated into it.
Tablet holder is an amazing idea!
Love the tablet holder idea. Y'all ever play Scrabble? I think the shape you're looking for is quite similar to a Scrabble tile holder: just a long, low wooden bar with a lip. Leave off the edges that keep letter tiles on, kick it out a bit more at the bottom (too steep an angle makes a tablet hard to read and interact with), run it the full width of the GM screen panel, attach to the panel with magnets, and voilà.
For status trackers, make them stack above the initiative tracker. The top of the initiative tracker as well as each status would narrow in at the top (for a visual, look up a capital A in the Westminster font). This would let each one fit onto the one below it. The tolerances would need to be loose enough that one in the middle or on the bottom of a stack could be removed easily, but still tight enough that a stack of 5+ wouldn't be wobbly.
For another visual, imagine a stack of 9 oz Solo cups (statuses) on top of a single 18 oz Solo cup (initiative) - only mostly all flattened out instead of round.
Also: the tablet holder is an easel. It's a Tablet Easel, and you could actually make it work similar to a fold up picture easel, but instead of a single center hinge, a hinge on each side so you can adjust it for a wider or narrower tablet or whatever you want to hold up.
Encounter+ VTT is what I'm planning to use on my iPad for my campaign.
The tablet holder sounds amazing!
I personally use a phone to control music, one to always have my player's stats up on D&D Beyond, and a tablet to run everything else.
If the little wooden holders could optionally be put closer together to hold phones as well it would be amazing.
I'd love to see some little dice-holding shelves you could attach to the magnet strips at the top, or a mini magnetic dice tower for the inside, if you're planning on adding more optional accessories.
All in all, this looks like an incredible product. Can't wait to get my hands on one!
Dude the idea of a tablet holder is freakin' perfect! Cannot wait to get my hands on your final GM screen! My current one is 14 years old and barely holding on.
Should add magnets to the side of Jason's dice tower idea, so that the DM screen can have panels flanking it on both sides. Boom, integrated dice tower into the DM's set up, complete with public and private rolls.
If your looking for dice tower integration. How about alternate side walls to your current dice tower so it slots into the GM screen. That way people that already have a dice tower just need a upgrade and people that don’t just purchase a dice tower with that option selected.
Slot trough could also hold a book open! I'd find that really helpful!
love the dice tower! think if the steps were different woods, it'd be awesome
Definitely love the clear, tall, 2 sided dice roller-- and a tablet holder would be awesome (my iPad mini is a must behind my screen)
Tablet Holder idea is top, but maybe rotating panel + tablet holder to show maps or info to players
Love the idea of integrating a Tablet. DnD Beyond as well as Notion Databases are just very nice additions at the table.
yknow what wyrmlyfe needs....
It needs a lil clip on microphone for the cameraman, whoever that sexy beast may be. Because their voice is the only voice in the entire company to be muffled because they're talking into the back of the microphone.
Also, an idea for the condition tracking. Could you make thin acrylic sleeves that slot over the initiative trackers (like small rectangles super short so you could stack them vertically on the tracker) That would solve the messiness of the rings, which I know that you were trying to include the rings, but I don't believe that there's a solution that's clean enough for your tastes.
Love Wyrmlyfe so much. You guys are awesome!
MGT magnetic rail compatibility would be rad! You guys make a player desk for the MGT, how about a DM desk? Make it extra wide, can slot in a DM screen and the new batch of accessories. If you guys did a public private tower then you could also attach it to the DM desk so that the private one dropped off onto the DM desk and the public one rolled out onto the table top
For condition tracking, what if the tracker had a little slot in the top with a magnet, and then each condition also had that slot and magnet? You could daisy-chain them together for multiple conditions, and maybe make them out of whiteboard stuff so you can write on them and thus not have to give people a million of them. Something like this, maybe:
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I like this idea.
Going to agree with a lot of other comments, condition rings go on the mini. Or players track them or something like that, don't need the visual clutter up top.
While the 2 way dice tower is cool. I'd never use it. 99% of my rolls are private. For the maybe 1 roll a session that I do public, I can just roll on the table or communal dice tray.
For a tablet holder, I feel like most tablets already come with covers or kickstands that put them at a good angle, I don't see the need for an additional solution.
Also agree with others, a storage solution like you had in the original would be very handy. I'd argue it could just as easily be a stand-alone product, doesn't need tower integration. Something with a number of compartments for my spare dice (for large spell damage), storing condition trackers, a few minis, things like that.
ah you fucking got me with that jump scare
I would go with a wooden initiative tracker that’s an inch wide and and inch tall. As thick as the screen or a little thinner. Ideally, it’d just be a little block of wood with magnets on the top and bottom. Then make condition trackers that are little blocks of wood half inch tall or whatever is readable and have them click on top the initiative tracker with magnets. Making them different colors would be great. The easiest way to do that is either to make them colored acrylic or glue a thin piece of acrylic to a little block of wood. They’re always talking about the wood waste. This would be another idea to use some of the scraps up.
Also I love that Jason is looking back at that original Kickstarter. That’s still the setup I’d love to have (minus maybe the flipping screen in the middle). I wouldn’t reinvent the dice tower. You sell a dice tower. Modify it to allow GM screen sections to snap on either side.
Regarding the tablet holder: Some people don't have tablets but have laptops. What if, instead of resting the tablet screen on a holder in front of the panel, you make it so that the screen could be its own panel? You could make side rails that slide over the left and right side of a tablet or laptop screen, and then those rails magnetically attach to the other panels of the GM screen. That way, regardless of whether or not it's a tablet or laptop screen, it slots easily into the GM screen.
Honestly I don't see myself using condition rings on an initiative tracker, using the rings on the minis already works great. The slot trough is a good idea!
tho people that do theater of the mind it would be useful to see the conditions on the initiative tracker.
WAIT A GODDAMN MINUTE THE TABLET HOLDER WOULD BE INCREDIBLE. I have a keyboard case on my iPad and I use it for D&D Beyond whenever I run my games. I’m on the site CONSTANTLY during sessions. I basically have a folding table to myself so I have the room for my iPad but having it on my DM screen would be amazing. Make it a little ledge and you can use it for writing utensils too, for the top OR bottom edge of your DM screen!!! I would ditch the keyboard case while DMing if I could have a cheeky little ledge on my DM screen for my iPad or even for my phone, which I ALSO use during D&D! I keep the player’s basic stats open in the D&D Beyond app so I have their HP, AC and passive stats at a glance.
Scrap the condition tracker idea. Easiest thing is to give us a bit of space on the initiative tracker and we can write the conditions or whatever information we need.
The Screen slot/ tablet trough is a great idea.
Not everything about the GM screen has to be formed around d&d rules and should be kept as a nice looking blank canvas for us to put what we need as GMs onto it.
GM Screen Lecturn! Phenominal idea! Btw, this channel is the only one I ever leave comments on.
I would love to see the old dice tower work with the knew screen I think its much more visually pleasing!
The tablet holder seems like a really good idea however the weight of the tablet(and the fact that you manipulate the tablet by pushing against it and the screen) may create some stability issues. It might be a good idea to create feet that exist on the outside of the gm screen (facing the players) that clip onto the bottom of the gm screen panels. These feet would also be attached to the "stand" on the inside of the gm screen as one solid piece. That way you could slot the feet/stand onto any of the panels initially, then attach your other panels once it is situated.
The scream got me, damn.
I don’t have an opinion on HOW you do the tablet holder, but will absolutely be buying whatever you guys come up with there. I run my games from my iPad, so that’s a big selling point for me.
The WyrmWedge! For holding tablets or books or whatever.
So I was nodding off when this video was playing and that scream got awake real fast.
If you put the name on the bottom and made them stack upward, there is no limit to the amount of conditions because you can just keep putting them on top of each other.
If you really need condition markers on your initiative tracker, take an idea from Lego. put a depression on top of your initiative piece and make piece that slots into it that are the same dimensions as the tracker, but painted to match the condition rings. Put a depression on top of your status markers and you can stack as many as you need, a rainbow of conditions even, on each initiative tracker.
When Doug started drawing his condition ring hanger initiative tracker I thought he was drawing a puzzle piece. What if you had a pretty simple and small character initiative tracker, and then a condition status puzzle piece could slot into it. Could have separate pieces for different conditions or generic magnet pieces that use those little magnet bars.
If you're going to do the tablet trough, you will want the accessory to actually hold the bottom of the tablet. Some table / tablet combos are quite slippery and you don't want someone's tablet accidently sliding off the table.
Haven't even gotten to the end of the video, but need to say that the DM screen is a GAME CHANGER. I have the exact same problem, where using both my DM screen and a device is so clunky, but if I could merge them into one?? Beautiful.
Also, I so love the Status Trackers and wish you could make them work with some sort of Lego Stacking type mechanism. It would be so useful for my game.
the Tablet legs could just pop out of the DM screen; like a partial cut out or mechanic sort of ledge so there are no separate pieces that you could lose. If you had to separate pieces, they could be stored in the screen, just incase the DM isn't using a tablet but a separate notebook, etc.
For a condition tracker. There could be a solution that could work. Using an L or U shaped metal bracket. That hooks over top of the screen and drapes down. Lazer cut wooden plates with magnetic backs can then be attached to the bracket.
Great shirt chip!
Make sure that the tablet holder can also hold, and hold open your books, that would be really sick
Put holes at the top of the tracker and make sticks. So you could kabob the lettering of the conditions.
If figures are used trackers only need to indicate if ANY status is in affect, because If status rings are also being used they are already on the figs. Therefore it's just a a reminder and you only need a simple singular indicator.
...and it just keeps getting better!
So idea for the tablet. I believe iPad, Samsung, and surface laptops have magnets on the inside. You should be able to use those magnets to attach it to the panel of the GM screen using the magnets already in. OR if you cut out a section and do a hinge mechanism on the bottom of the gm screen it could work.
LOVE the tablet holder!
I think “The Lectern” could be a pretty cool name for the tablet holder, since it could also hold books, etc..
I'd like to vote a big plus one for both the condition tracker on the screen as well as the laptop or tablet integration. I find organization of condition trackers on minis particularly difficult, especially for theater of the mind, battles, and any kind of integration to make Dndbeyond at the table feel more like "old school D&D" would be amazing.
Since tablets come in different sizes, I would think that a magnetic rest at either end, joined by a long ledge would be best since it would cater for everything. Some people might even buy 3 screens, and 3 rests. But you could also use similar clamps/rests/attachments to hang or support other things. A card with your current game's rules on it. A card with your map on it etc etc. That's assuming the entire screen isn't magnetic. Or... a thin sheet of magnetic whiteboard material, to turn the back of that screen into a whiteboard, from which you can hang more magnets for notes/rules etc.
The tablet holder is a good idea. What would even improve this idea is to either make it hollow or elevate the middle platform or ledge, so that a dice vault would slide in or fit under.
9.30 "I can't believe you've done this"
Condition rings make me think of ring toss games. Which make me think of a pole design to place rings on. Which makes me think of a pole designed to look like a wizard tower to put condition rings on.
For the I pad stand look at scrabble tile holders.
I now have trust issues cause of that jump scare video...thanks wormwood.
It would have been cool to stack the initiative. Like an upside down T. Where the horizontal would have the name. And the vertical is a way to stack.
for the tablet holder call it "Above and Beyond"
What about making the condition trackers like puzzle pieces? They would clip into the top of the initiative tracker and be able to clip into each other, thus stacking them as high as you need.
Like this idea!
Slot Trough doesn't actually need the trough. 2 flat pieces will do the job.
Condition rings: fail (they go on the mini)
Die Tower: Just add magnets to the existing tower product. The GM screen then clips either side "as is".
Tablet holder: simplest option - two magnetised holders that fold flat in the accessory pocket of the carrier.
Initiative trackers could use color coded stat tracker slides like the ones in Mansions of Madness for tracking player character stats for DnD status effects. Less messy than the rings and you could fit more on the sides of smaller trackers etc.
If you want to display multiple statuses (statusi??) make the tracker part short and wide for the names with a slot in the top. Then have narrow slats of wood with the statuses written vertically to go in the slot.
That tower from the og screen
kickstarter that has public/private option for rolling would make the difference for me if I were to back or not. I would just buy the tower, because I already have DM screens that work fine but do not have a tower like that, and no one does outside of custom work or 3d printed. I think it has more features than your current dice towers.
Double Roll Dice Tower:
Talk to Bennet, he made a two-sided dice tower when he was working on a modular dice tower for MGT
As a DM and player, I'd never use condition trackers/rings on the Initiative Tracking. You want them around your miniatures so you're actively seeing them on the map and thinking about how it effects your tactics. Putting them on the initiative would likely lead to forgetting they were there or having to do both. The only possible situation I see that being useful is for Theater of the Mind stuff when there's no miniatures or map.
for the tablet/ book holder, call it the Lectern!
That damn jump scare.
The tablet holder should be made such that it could also hold a D&D book. It would be nice to use it for a tablet or a adventure book/monster manual.
I say abandon the conditions on the combat tracker, but sub in a way to view whether a character has its reaction available or not, like a tiny mailbox flag. The condition circles look better on the minis anyway.
A little reaction tracker flag would be SO HELPFUL. I hate tracking reactions!
I'd like to see the condition tracker personally, but this is a great idea too. I'd love this. Another option would be a concentration tracker.
@@d_dave7200 yes!!! Concentration tracker flag would make it so easy keep track of when to do concentration checks! I keep on remembering after the fact and half the time i forget the damage to base it on.
The tablet holder could be named the "Fondleslab Flare"
5 min in.. please don't worry about condition trackers on the initiative trackers. Imo it's trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. IF anything, have something like "held action".
Edit: For the slot trough, how possible would it be to have it integrated in with the panel, so the GM could just pop it out? Then when to store it, they just fold it back in and it's flush with the panel?
Idea for the status tracker:
The version where you held the status rings looks exactly like a jigsaw piece. So just make the status as jigsaw pieces that would "infinitely" stack on top of the character tracker.
What about a DM screen section that you can add (when you order it) that would have the size that would cradle in the tablet (hole size specified when ordering the screen) and then a mechanism to secure it in place. That way you don't get too much space taken away from behind the DM screen. Also for the status effects, maybe stackable triangles. Kinda like how bins stack but small oval strips with wording on them and color coded based on type of condition.
If you have condition rings on your mini...why do you need them on your initiative tracker?
JFC was the jump scare necessary? Almost choked on my kind bar.
If you could make a tablet holder that also could hold a rules book open you would have the best of both worlds there.
I, personally, would love condition tracking on an initative tracker, because my ADHD is stupid and I always forget to account for conditions, but if they're in my face, awesome.
Potential problem I forsee with the hanging the rings on the imitative tracker is it blocks the name on the imitative tracker, The hat version would alleviate this but both versions do look a little to cluttered IMHO. What about something similar to like the caster tile or the Paladin RPG tracking system, where you have little indentations for each status and you use ball bearing to intonate which status the player has? There are a lot of status conditions but you could probably replace some of them with colored ball bearings like have a different color for each level of exhaustion. Another possible solution would be to make the initative tracker pieces more narrow and a bit taller so the rings would slide on all the way to the bottom that way they aren't blocking the name
That tablet scare - omg I hate you lol. Just kidding - LOVE the episodes!
Y'all have a 3D printer. you can print your own shape that could fit on your initiative tracker and act as stackign lego hats or something. You can also offer the STL file to folks to print their own.
I use a laptop instead of a tablet, so the tablet holder wouldn't help me much. But I use Improved Initiative for initiative tracking, and have a player-facing screen to show them initiative, maps, or other visuals.
If the tablet holder product could be player facing, I could see hunting for a portable monitor that could fit in it... So that'd save some room...
IIRC, all the panels are already reversible with the magentic-rod based hinges, so this should be a thing
What if you did the GM screen position tracker like a "T" with a wide base that goes into the GM screen slot, and then it has the persons/characters name going down the middle of the vertical leg and have all the condition rings hanging off either side of the horizontal bar.
you could even sell them in different wood varieties matching the class of the month box
The condition trackers were made to be put on the minis, I think it should stay that way. Anyone would love a basic but awesome initiative tracker though.
As for the tablet holder, it's almost a necessity for a lot of us and I would love to have that option available. I was recently thinking of buying an arm that would attach to the table to hold the tablet but if you can make it more convenient attaching it to the screen, I'm all ears. Overall the screen is starting to look real good!
condition trackers always goes on the minis :) so much cleaner to see.
This seems a solution without a problem
There are theater of mind groups playing without minis. Not sure it's worth designing a complex solution for that niche market (theater of mind) within a niche market (people willing to drop $100s on D&D accessories) within a niche market (TTRPG players) but...
@@Morcarag Issue is that the solutions are very untidy. It might be worth it if there's a really good solution for it, but from this video, it doesn't seem like there is.
@@neruneri I agree. The solutions presented are messy and fiddly.
Sounds like chip had an idea, could have at least heard him out on it lol. I mean he knows what he wants out of it, so he'd be able to give feed back on your solutions.
Use lite-brite pegs for condition tracking.
Please keep thinking with the initiative tracker. Being able to elegantly track conditions would be really nice. I liked the little magnets thing, but maybe make it a bit larger, and bright colors obviously.
Or have two rails so you can overlap stuff. Like having a piece for the character, and one that hovers behind and over the top which can list conditions. I know you like keeping things simple but not everyone at the consumer end likes simple, and I think a lot of those people might be DMs ;) At a bare minimum at least give me a larger tracker I can write on and put behind so I can use my own condition color coding using dry-erase markers.
Having rings would be convenient for matching, but you could just as easily have your tracker magnets color match with a set of third party rings you sell anyway. If you have to do the rings thing I'd actually prefer a single hook at the top to pile them on, even if it's less cool looking. You could try to source rings with the writing facing outwards too, so that it's readable from the edge-side.
The way I see it there are a lot of cool ways to do this.