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What do you have to pay for the service as well as buy the games personally I think you should have to do one or the other not both and given Google's pension for selling user data an ad Revenue you shouldn't really have to do either after making plenty of money off us either way next stadius not in beta it's in release it should have the basic features such a cross compatibility with any Android device and be able to hook up any controller with it and work heck I can plug a USB controller into my phone and most of the time it will work stadia can't handle this the problem is it sounds like it's still in beta not release
Road map only works for small/indie devs You see minecraft in the earlier days and it was fine because they were small We see fallout 76 and its really bad because its a big team with a bunch of money
"Roadmap" is just a marketing-friendly term for "minimum viable product". They don't want to admit that they are taking $30,000 preorders for sports cars when they only have the infrastructure in place to make $5 skateboards. Which isn't a hyperbole, by the way. If you go into a training course for a tech company like this, they will actually use the "skateboards and sports cars" metaphor in their powerpoint diagrams
@@neilebate3695 he's probably refering to new age ways of speaking that try to make people calm and try to make them NOT think about how wrong the product is and how badly things are going with the product and the company. Kind of like how in yoga you focus to relax and let go of things and be "positive", in marketing they do the same if they fuck up when fighting the dumpster fires they created
I’m in shock that he literally said “This is fine” Like the guy is pretending to be a madlad when it’s blatantly obvious that something is seriously wrong with Stadia as a business.
Calling Stadia office: “Hi I’d like to place an order for delivery” “We don’t deliver” “Oh ok well here’s my credit card info just go ahead and charge 129.00$ anyway” “This is fine”
"That's not to say that Stadia won't improve. Over time, I'm sure throughout the months and years we're get more features and games, and Stadia's going to become more fleshed out." *Stares at the Google Graveyard* I dunno about that one, Chief.
@@logicalfundy I'm pretty sure Google glass was partly shutdown due to governmental interference due to privacy laws that the Google glasses could circumvent
The Google Graveyard. Proof that google would have the most success investing in graveyards to hold all their failed ventures... Oh who am I kidding? They'd probably even screw that up by trying to put fast food places in mausoleums.
"Thank you so much for buying this house! We'll get right to work on making it for you, as this house is of course just a demo. Meanwhile we hope you enjoy this cardboard box while we do the ABSOLUTE best with your money, but please try not to compare us with other companies because this is kind of our first time selling houses so, enjoy!"
"This is fine," sounds like something Bioware said to themselves in the same breath as "Bioware Magic." When you have to justify a poor launch by saying "this is fine" makes it sound like the only goal was just to toss the thing out there rather than to have a finished product. Something to which Microsoft and NVIDIA have done to make sure it is ready to go rather than attempting to be "First out the gate" and have a service that can not only be spotty but to also expect people to pay for an incomplete experience.
"Big, bold statement of where we are going" Well, if that's what they wanted, just sharing a pic where they all give the middle finger would've had the same result but be much simpler.
@S T Internet connection isn't the problem, I promise you that. I used to play TFC on a 56.k modem, ticking along at maybe 10 fps. People will make sacrifices to get what they want. It just has to be what they want. As hardware and concept, Stadia is awesome. And I want it to live a long happy life, growing and improving. As a service, I want Stadia to be aborted in the womb.
"Stadia giving high expectations then waiting until near launch to list all the features that won't be available" That's called a bait-and-switch, we've seen this a ridiculous amount of times in the past most recent being GoFundMe games promised on multiple platforms to then launch exclusively on Tim Sweeny's playground of China bux.
Maybe they should have focused on making a good product on launch so they would actually get publishers to give them games But no, they couldn't do that. Add it to the ever expanding pile of failed google services and products.
Stardevoir this is why we don’t have new info about new games, they know what Stadia is, but the supposed “120 games coming in 2020” is either fake or paid millions so they can shut up and or both
John V maybe but most game developers may know what Stadia is and has become so they may be able to not put their game there and put it somewhere else instead
As it turns out that phrase doesn't really help with the smoke or burns if your pants are literally on fire like googles are. ...Totally not speaking from experience of having my pants lit on fire. No sir.
This is symptomatic of all tech. The engineers who built the company have been replaced by business people with no engineering experience. The whole just get it to market agile bs is their brainchild. Fix forward instead of rollback makes me want to commit seppuku
@@alinepiroutek8932 I just want nice themes for my Switch and the ability to sort games into folders without having to go down a wall of icons to find that one game I'm looking for. took them _years_ before they implemented that on the DS family.
@S T Oh, so you agree that corporations should be more heavily regulated by the government and that the power of money in politics should be greatly reduced?
Business Majors/MBAs are quickly becoming the new most hated profession to a lot of people, even above lawyers. That should say how badly they F'ed up as a profession.
Me: Hey Stadia, how many games are coming out this year? Stadia: Stacks On Stacks (On Stacks) Me: Awesome can't wait for all those games Stadia: No, just Stacks On Stacks (On Stacks) Me: Yes, Stacks On Stacks sounds like a good amount Stadia: Only 1 game is coming, its called Stacks On Stacks (On Stacks) Me: So we aren't getting stacks on stacks on stacks of games Stadia: Yes, you are getting Stacks On Stacks (On Stacks) the game. Me: Wait, so the only game is a game call Stacks On Stacks (On Stacks) Stadia: It will be laggy and certainly not 4K, no matter the device or subscription plan and you can only play it on WiFi on a tini list of devices. This is Our BOLD VISION for the future of gaming.
@@SamsarasArt not even incompetence, these companies know EXACTLY what they are doing. They also know there are millions of people who will eat this shit up and defend it.
".. in our roadmap" So it is a live service game, turn into a console. Holy freaking heck, thank God neither me nor my friends touch this joke of "plataform". This manager guy just talks corporate BS, just like most of triple A CEOs
"This is fine! This is great!" This is what happens when you use EA and Bethesda as a referrence point and not an average company like the big three (some more than others).
I'm not really sold on this whole streaming thing yet. What gets me is that we keep hearing that game streaming is the future like it or not, get used to it. Stadia blows. GeForce Now keeps losing participating devs (and doesn't support GOG). X-Cloud seems to be the only service getting good lip service, and I don't know anything about it.
That part where Yong had to take a second... Guys, let's all remember this is the company that runs TH-cam, and let's also remember that they did NOT create TH-cam
@@mrcat4508 maybe, but that depends heavily on how you define it's creation. The person who made it was working at Google at the time, but it was an idea he'd been working on for years before he joined the company.
5:40 - PREACH! SO MUCH THIS! Stop normalizing negative behavior and practices! This is the message game companies - and so many other companies, and individuals, and countries... - Need to hear!
@@noboty4168 So much this. Also, if gamers would stop paying for unfinished products, developers would stop releasing them. The best way to get a big company to listen is by stopping feeding them money.
Well burning down your proverbial house and peeing on the ashes sure sends a message alright. Especially if you keep trying to yell to everyone "ITS GONNA BE GREAT!" the whole time.
You still have it, you can't even buy it because the base is free. Add ons can be bought in the game. You can can still claim it of you cancel your pro subscription
Destiny 2 isn't really a free to play title though. You can access some of the content for free, but if you want the whole experience, you have to buy the expansions (and you can bet your ass that there'll be more of them in the future).
@@KoffinKat except that the base game plus 2 DLCs are completely free alongside seasonal updates? I'm not saying the D2 F2P experience is good, far from it, but it is an F2P title, having DLC doesn't change that
@@Spike2276 Base game plus 2 DLCs might be free, but there's already Shadowkeep that needs to be paid for and knowing Bungie, there'll be more expansions you will have to buy. It really just feels like Bungie wanted to get praise for their game being F2P without *actually* going F2P.
"it's not just about some marginal improvements, it's not about a specific feature. it's about a big, bold statement of where we are going" oh so basically what they mean is that they are trying to say "f**k you" indirectly to every customer who payed and still is paying money for this pile of crap. "this is fine. this is great."
The sad reality is that the money Google is losing is probably very small to the point they can just abandon the whole thing and it will not even put a tiny dent in their company both money and integrity wise. I feel bad for those who actually supported and want this service to work. Literally a complete waste of money.
I think I know one of the lesser known reasons why Google Stadia is an unpopular platform for game releases: Many game developers don't think that the high internet bill for playtesting games on Google Stadia would be worth it, when they can playtest their games anywhere else on much more popular platforms for practically free in comparison. And when they need to playtest for months, the internet bill would add up to something really REALLY expensive, which they wouldn't be able to recoop with how unpopular Google Stadia is for gamers.
*Google:* It's okay, launch is about the same as youtube in 2005. Except Stadia is a Paid platform, even it's "Free" tier requires a paid comission, which is buying games on the platform, and even that is WIP. Customers are literally being used as paying beta testers.
Besides. You still pay the full price for games who have been on the market for a while. While other platforms like Steam and GOG offer a better catalogue of products for more or less reasonable prices. Plus GOG is DRM free and let's you keep your games once you buy them. Plus they revealed that they are enabling cross saves between PC and the Nintendo Switch for Witcher 3 Wild Hunt. It's not perfect at the moment, but the will to improve is there. Stadia doesn't have a future
Google STADIE: "it's fine" that we completely rushed things out the door instead of waiting a few more months/years and improving and really polishing everything up and making sure everything was actually working properly Google STADIE: "it's fine" that we are the biggest laughing joke on the internet with gaming next to failout 76 and deadthem and maybe even scamraiders at this point. Google STADIE: "it's fine" that our competition aka MICROSOFT and NVIDIA are putting us to absolute shame at EVERY TURN. Google STADIE: "it's fine" that we don't actually realize or even accept that STADIE has ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE againest NVIDIA and MICROSOFT at this point because we rushed things out the door so quickly green lighting everything without any type of logic that our own product was WRECKED and turned into a DUMPSTER FIRE OVERNIGHT! I mean let's be honest Google's STADIE WRECKED itself when Google THOUGHT they had a place in the gaming space LOL yeah that worked out REAL WELL DIDNT IT GOOGLE! SO WELL IN FACT THAT GOOGLE YOUR "STADIE" GOT FUCKED AND ABSOLUTELY OBLITERATED MURDERED EVEN BY MICROSOFT AND NVIDIA AT THE SAME TIME OVERNIGHT and why is that? oh that's easy BECAUSE MICROSOFT AND NVIDIA ARE JUST BETTER and WHY are they BETTER? BECAUSE MICROSOFT AND NVIDIA ACTUALLY FUCKING KNOW HOW TO SELL THEIR FUCKING CLOUD GAMING SHIT AKA THEIR NOT RUSHING SHIT OUT THE DOOR AKA NVIDIA AND MICROSOFT ARE ACTUALLY DOING ACTUAL BETA'S FOR THEIR PRODUCTS AND NOT CHARGING ANYONE A SINGLE FUCKING DIME! AKA NVIDIA AND MICROSOFT HAVE ACTUALLY THOUGHT THEIR SHIT THROUGH! UNLIKE YOU GOOGLE WHO ONLY KNOW HOW TO BURY YOUR SHIT BECAUSE OF THE EVER EXPANDING GRAVEYARD IN YOUR OWN BACKYARD GOOGLE! FUCK YOU GOOGLE, FUCK GOOGLE STADIE AS WELL THAT SHIT WASNT JUST WRECKED THAT SHIT WAS DEAD ON ARRIVAL THAT SHIT WAS PUT TO DEATH AND THROWN IN THE DITCH OVERNIGHT!!!
The Golden age of gaming has come to an end all of the household names of games are now the enemy and have fallen far from grace now games are "You get what we give you and you will like it because you are cattle you are a number not a person owed for what you paid for and promised take this garbage and keep paying us shut up stand in line and do what WE tell you."
And so we migrate to other areas that actually care and leave the corporate tinged side of the industry to do what they please. After all, the indie space has a number of good titles. We're not beholden to the big names, after all.
Honestly, I'm at the point where I think there need to be some investigations into these companies, because I'm having a hard time seeing how stunts like these are not false advertising, at the very least. I'd also be livid if I were a share holder in any of these companies, because treating consumers like this is always going to bite you in the butt eventually. I would say we need to get Congress on this, but, let's face it, most of our congressmen are so over-the-hill that they don't have the slightest idea how the gaming industry functions and why this stuff is so bad. And too many of them have been in office more than half of their lives, _which is why term limits need to be a thing for the legislature._
What they're doing with this and games is shifting the product development cycle. Instead of reaching a functional stage before release they've moved it to release a skeleton of a product; a working prototype sold to the public. From which they can slowly add to it if it is financially viable to continue to do so. Therefore cutting the cost of r&d and development, promising what their vision is (which should be provided upon release) and having the public who purchase it pay for the development of the product. It's disgusting.
I think the big issue with “well this platform from ___” is that they don’t understand that what it was back then still had plenty of stuff for the time. Steam and TH-cam put up what was the “standard” (very loose cause there wasn’t much to draw from then) at the time then built from there. We have a new standard that these platforms need to live up to. Valve didn’t release an awful VR headset then say “well Nintendo had the Virtual Boy.” No they made a headset that went with the tech we have today
I remember the days of OnLive where you could play a 30 minute demo of a game before buying it, and that was in its early days. Also digital games on that platform were priced at a max of $50.
I am gratified that the _loosing access to the game_ upon subscription expiration is being expressed. It shines a light on a large drawback with the game streaming business model.
Why does Stadia list the BRANDS & TYPES of the smartphones that will work, instead of just the min spec, "Android 9 or higher with 2GB RAM" or something like that? I mean, imagine that in PC gaming world, Assassin's Creed only works on Lenovo X20, HP something, instead of Windows 7 or higher (the specs).
The weird thing is, stadia is "testing" this app on other android devices Yet if you install chromium and config it to recognise a Bluetooth controller, you can just run stadia through that on any device AND via mobile data, I've been doing this for months, why Google are lacking behind is beyond me And since using Nvidia Geforce, that works a lot better and has an on-screen controller layout incase you wanna just play a game like a mobile app (for me I've been playing TemTem) I like the concept of stadia, but it's lacking and not really trying to improve. Stadia is like the epic games store, they don't care about functionality, they just expect users to consume it and they'll get around to it later
It's good to see the Asus ROG Phones getting some love, even if it's by stadia. I have an Asus ROG Phone II and it's amazing, but it's more of a niche phone so less people know about it. Also, I didn't know you had an Asus ROG Phone Yong, that's awesome
I love it when corporate employees and executives come out and give a patronizing PR response and think gamers can't smell the bullshit that comes from it. I mean come on, it should be common sense at this point that the general gaming community is full of very smart people that can read between the lines. But how many of them actually go to any place where they can actually hear feedback from any of them? I bet not many of them actually watch youtube.
"I mean come on, it should be common sense at this point that the general gaming community is full of very smart people that can read between the lines" I don't know about that one.
The thing is, they don't consider things such as "release" these days. They see it as the day of access. The day where people are able to purchase the right to access it. They don't feel like they're obligated to deliver. Just like with games, they might add basic features later.
im happy you reported on this topic again. amongst my subscriptions, inside gaming posted a video about stadia. I was generally interested but i didn't want to hear from them. their format has become too wacky and loud for me now. I know you mentioned you sometimes get tired of talking about the same thing but i really am glad i heard it from you.
Y'know, I clicked the Like button because it's advocating for the customer when companies are clearly not respecting that idea. But I stopped listening at about 4 minutes in. Why? Because it's no longer shosking. Companies all across the e-gaming landscape no longer feel obligated to strive for the best possible product to offer to their customers. In the minds of these companies, it's no longer a failure when launching an unfinished product that does not work as advertised. In the minds of these avaricious idiots, failure is a business plan. Tell you what, Alphabet, EA, Activision, Bethesda, you go on releasing partial products, and I'm going to start buying them with partial dollar bills.
If they go through with connecting the controller to the data center, it would be interesting to see how that turns out. There could be a good amount of input lag since I imagine the ‘monitor’ and controller send packets asynchronously and if the controller sends something out after the phone refreshes then it wouldn’t register or be jittery probably. Also, missed inputs or choppy movement might exist as well, since I’m pretty sure they’d be using UDP (TCP would be too ‘slow’ and everything would need to stop if a packet came out of series) and I don’t know how that’d go down on games where time sensitive inputs count, especially on horrible internet. If they could pull it off, I’d actually be very impressed. I love your videos, thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and I’m looking forward to the next one!
Honestly it's the No Man's Sky fallacy, and the Final Fantasy ( I forget which one it is that is the MMO that had to be rework from the ground up but came out great) fallacy. Ever since no man's sky started out as crap, and then became good (haven't played it but that's what everyone says). People think that companies will work to make something better if we don't approve just because a very small company did it. Or something that was crap,( again haven't played the Final Fantasy game.) That got Revisited and reworked into something that everyone liked. I may not have played these games. But "fans" seems to have a mentality for something like this. Instead of being able to criticize thing they love. I mean with the anthem reboot, you here's some people eagerly waiting saying it's going to be the thing that fixes it. The thing that people who stuck with it can turn around to everyone else and laugh at them. When in reality it may be the case and the thing is fixed. But who's to say that's what actually will happen. How long will we have to wait. ( please note I'm only using Anthem as an example. I really do hope it prospers. And I have no stake towards it or against it.) The thing is we should praise it when things get fixed. We should be happy when we finally get what we wanted. What we paid for. But it's so hard when we are dealing with an industry it just seems to want to take the easy way out 9 out of 10 times. People will try to defend something anything that they have invested in. We can't blame them, let them enjoy what they enjoy. But if nobody speaks out nothing will change. But I have to admit oh, sometimes we shouldn't waste our breath. It's companies like Google right now the things take a hold themselves up like this. That are so tone-deaf to the situation. Make a stand with your money. Ask yourself do you really enjoy this platform. Really ask yourself. If you don't if you think it needs to be better. Then don't renew until it is. To put it simply have standards for yourself. Have standards of what to expect from the start and what is there supposed to be now
Gamer: this is bad. I will boycott this. Stadia: i don't care Gamer: inputs credit card details for 1 year recurring pro subscription with multiple controllers.
*" This is Fine,This is great "* I was already skeptical way before Stadia released but seeing these dumdums still say this after launch. Who are you kidding?
If you expect to release of incomplete products and expect to get any distance with it you are sadly mistaken because you must make a good first impression cuz if you don’t well your screwed.
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More like the entire AAA Game Industry.
"over-deliver"
What do you have to pay for the service as well as buy the games personally I think you should have to do one or the other not both and given Google's pension for selling user data an ad Revenue you shouldn't really have to do either after making plenty of money off us either way next stadius not in beta it's in release it should have the basic features such a cross compatibility with any Android device and be able to hook up any controller with it and work heck I can plug a USB controller into my phone and most of the time it will work stadia can't handle this the problem is it sounds like it's still in beta not release
So sick of the "roadmap" excuse to shove out unfinished/beta/alpha version garbage by big companies.
Road map only works for small/indie devs
You see minecraft in the earlier days and it was fine because they were small
We see fallout 76 and its really bad because its a big team with a bunch of money
They got jealous of the Early Access hits like DayZ and PUBG.
"Roadmap" is just a marketing-friendly term for "minimum viable product". They don't want to admit that they are taking $30,000 preorders for sports cars when they only have the infrastructure in place to make $5 skateboards.
Which isn't a hyperbole, by the way. If you go into a training course for a tech company like this, they will actually use the "skateboards and sports cars" metaphor in their powerpoint diagrams
Meh, they'll get around to it eventually.
A good roadmap is only good if the product is already Good in the first place.
The more a company starts relying on yoga-speak, the worse you know things are going. And that last paragraph is absolutely dripping with yoga-speak.
What's yoga speak?
@@neilebate3695 he's probably refering to new age ways of speaking that try to make people calm and try to make them NOT think about how wrong the product is and how badly things are going with the product and the company. Kind of like how in yoga you focus to relax and let go of things and be "positive", in marketing they do the same if they fuck up when fighting the dumpster fires they created
This is why, far superior to yoga-speak, Yoda-speak is.
@@Dreadjaws Fine, this is. Follow road, we will.
@@darkmega97 Give us money, you must continue to. Improve, this product is going to. Trust, in us you should
I’m in shock that he literally said “This is fine”
Like the guy is pretending to be a madlad when it’s blatantly obvious that something is seriously wrong with Stadia as a business.
I think you mean, "I am shooketh."
Self-awareness level negative 9000 I guess... ^^
As he said that his office went up in flames
"this is fine" its an alternative way to say "it just works"
@@dexter1981 Oof double kill
Google: Stadia is a metaphor, it's making a huge statement
Everyone else: It's a metaphor for your failures
A monument to all your sins.
An effigy for your existence.
A sign about your greed.
A member of the Belkan Grey Men
A metaphor for horseshit. But even that has its uses..
Calling Stadia office:
“Hi I’d like to place an order for delivery”
“We don’t deliver”
“Oh ok well here’s my credit card info just go ahead and charge 129.00$ anyway”
“This is fine”
"That's not to say that Stadia won't improve. Over time, I'm sure throughout the months and years we're get more features and games, and Stadia's going to become more fleshed out."
*Stares at the Google Graveyard*
I dunno about that one, Chief.
google glass says hello
@@hyperbrug9328 And Google Wave, one of my favorite Google products. Incredibly forward looking. But no, Google can't let us have nice things.
@@logicalfundy I'm pretty sure Google glass was partly shutdown due to governmental interference due to privacy laws that the Google glasses could circumvent
The Google Graveyard. Proof that google would have the most success investing in graveyards to hold all their failed ventures...
Oh who am I kidding? They'd probably even screw that up by trying to put fast food places in mausoleums.
Glass had a lot of interest until the low price of $3000 was revealed.
"Thank you so much for buying this house! We'll get right to work on making it for you, as this house is of course just a demo. Meanwhile we hope you enjoy this cardboard box while we do the ABSOLUTE best with your money, but please try not to compare us with other companies because this is kind of our first time selling houses so, enjoy!"
Google: "the real stadia was the friends we made along the way."
"Its not how a game launches, its what it becomes"
Same energy, really
@@ImMichaelJohn Todd Howard from Bethesda about Fallout 76
small dick energy
Prolapsed anus energy.
@@ImMichaelJohn It just works with 16 times the detail.
They really don't know what they're talking about when they say that.
"This is fine," sounds like something Bioware said to themselves in the same breath as "Bioware Magic."
When you have to justify a poor launch by saying "this is fine" makes it sound like the only goal was just to toss the thing out there rather than to have a finished product. Something to which Microsoft and NVIDIA have done to make sure it is ready to go rather than attempting to be "First out the gate" and have a service that can not only be spotty but to also expect people to pay for an incomplete experience.
Ewjiml If they wanna defend it, let them. What’s wrong with unpopular opinions like these?
Google: DON'T you guys have Patience??
It's not Mismanagement it's Bioware Magic! HUHUHUHUHUHUHU!
"Big, bold statement of where we are going"
Well, if that's what they wanted, just sharing a pic where they all give the middle finger would've had the same result but be much simpler.
How was it? "There is no way of knowing which direction we are going..."?
Like this.
The bold statement is that Stadia has all the games if so where's Mario kart
And cheaper.
@@andregon4366 EA: how about we sell the actual middle finger in the picture as DLC for 5 dollars?
@@unocualqu1era Sounds about right.
Who would win?
“A bold statement”
or
“Surprise Mechanics”
or
“Pride and accomplishment”
Tough choice but, surprise mechanics got scoff/chuckle from those UK commisoners questioning EA...so even non gamer politians knew it was BS.
Choosing an answer is only cosmetic 😛
@@Mysticgamer Thats the part I always love about that clip. xD Hell, even the lady who said it couldn't believe the bullshit coming out of her mouth.
A suprise Mechanic which is a bold statement while creating a sense of pride and acomplishment.
@@patrickfrost9405 WOMBO COMBO!
"improving over the months and years" if it lasts that long.
Sounds like Anthem all over again.
XCloud: comes out
Stadia: I guess I'll die!
Google's experiment phase is usually about 2 years. So yeah, probably will have that long to be legally dead or figure something out.
@S T Internet connection isn't the problem, I promise you that. I used to play TFC on a 56.k modem, ticking along at maybe 10 fps. People will make sacrifices to get what they want. It just has to be what they want. As hardware and concept, Stadia is awesome. And I want it to live a long happy life, growing and improving. As a service, I want Stadia to be aborted in the womb.
Let's keep it real, it probably won't last that long.
"Stadia giving high expectations then waiting until near launch to list all the features that won't be available"
That's called a bait-and-switch, we've seen this a ridiculous amount of times in the past most recent being GoFundMe games promised on multiple platforms to then launch exclusively on Tim Sweeny's playground of China bux.
Consumers should be like “here’s ten dollars.” “Uh but sir, this service costs a hundred.” “Yeah, paying for it is in the roadmap for me.”
I know this is a relatively old comment but it’s definitely one of the best comments I’ve seen so far.
Maybe they should have focused on making a good product on launch so they would actually get publishers to give them games
But no, they couldn't do that. Add it to the ever expanding pile of failed google services and products.
Stardevoir this is why we don’t have new info about new games, they know what Stadia is, but the supposed “120 games coming in 2020” is either fake or paid millions so they can shut up and or both
@@Tarnage they'll have 120, just most will be app level quality.
John V maybe but most game developers may know what Stadia is and has become so they may be able to not put their game there and put it somewhere else instead
The phrase "You can't fix a problem if you pretend there isn't one" comes to mind here.
As it turns out that phrase doesn't really help with the smoke or burns if your pants are literally on fire like googles are.
...Totally not speaking from experience of having my pants lit on fire. No sir.
This is symptomatic of all tech. The engineers who built the company have been replaced by business people with no engineering experience. The whole just get it to market agile bs is their brainchild. Fix forward instead of rollback makes me want to commit seppuku
@@ImMichaelJohn Blackadder 3 it's the prince regent played by hugh laurie
Like Nintendo that thinks it is impossible to program folders on Switch?
@@alinepiroutek8932 I just want nice themes for my Switch and the ability to sort games into folders without having to go down a wall of icons to find that one game I'm looking for. took them _years_ before they implemented that on the DS family.
@S T Oh, so you agree that corporations should be more heavily regulated by the government and that the power of money in politics should be greatly reduced?
Business Majors/MBAs are quickly becoming the new most hated profession to a lot of people, even above lawyers. That should say how badly they F'ed up as a profession.
*Google limits phones to use stadia*
Also google: "Why is no one buying our service?"
Do you guys not have phones?
Do you guys not have pixels?
I can't believe they literally memed themselves
In my opinion its a cry for help, lol.
I can believe it, actually......
That's how bad it is these days guys....
They have been memeing themselves since they announced this pile of horse manure
"Dad, you can't pause online games"
"But you could pause TH-cam it should be the same"
Any time I hear a company say they have a 'roadmap' planned, I instantly check out.
RIGHT
Kinda Mike
I will tell my girlfriend that I just had a roadmap on bed next time lol
Doesn't check out mean I buy it? Going to the check out? No? English is not my native language, just asking here. I get what you mean tho, and I agree
@@Sweet7Montana Checking it out is wanting to buy it, checking out is completely dismissing it.
@@PoisonInc Ah thanks for the explanation :)
Me: Hey Stadia, how many games are coming out this year?
Stadia: Stacks On Stacks (On Stacks)
Me: Awesome can't wait for all those games
Stadia: No, just Stacks On Stacks (On Stacks)
Me: Yes, Stacks On Stacks sounds like a good amount
Stadia: Only 1 game is coming, its called Stacks On Stacks (On Stacks)
Me: So we aren't getting stacks on stacks on stacks of games
Stadia: Yes, you are getting Stacks On Stacks (On Stacks) the game.
Me: Wait, so the only game is a game call Stacks On Stacks (On Stacks)
Stadia: It will be laggy and certainly not 4K, no matter the device or subscription plan and you can only play it on WiFi on a tini list of devices. This is Our BOLD VISION for the future of gaming.
the future looks so dissapointing with the current trend of selling "work in progress"
Now WIP doesnt mean anything really. Just an excuse for people to release half-assed games.
Incompetence or greed?
@@rinjaniii326 i would say both for the ppl in charge making incompetent decitions due greed
@@rinjaniii326 I'd say both incompetence and greed.
@@SamsarasArt not even incompetence, these companies know EXACTLY what they are doing.
They also know there are millions of people who will eat this shit up and defend it.
@@razorcloud1
Sigh....I was afraid someone would say that.
Yes, yes. They know what theyre doing....Most of the time. Especially big corporates
If your released product has a "roadmap" for its basic features - take a hike.
Long one off the short pier, preferably
They're delusional.
i mean they have the money to be delusional...
Of course they are I mean what were they thinking attempting to compete with the Soulja boy console
@@AxisChurchDevotee agree, just stupid smh
@@AxisChurchDevotee the soulja boy console is console of the decade
Get them to the infirmary
If I had to pay 1 cent to use TH-cam, I wouldn’t be here.
Got that fucking right.
Plenty of tards use youtube red
@@moronicalmeister fools and money are soon parted.
If only theres an alternative to youtube with same creators quality id happy to switch. This propaganda spewing google is just garbage
".. in our roadmap"
So it is a live service game, turn into a console. Holy freaking heck, thank God neither me nor my friends touch this joke of "plataform". This manager guy just talks corporate BS, just like most of triple A CEOs
"This is fine! This is great!"
This is what happens when you use EA and Bethesda as a referrence point and not an average company like the big three (some more than others).
Todd Howard: All of this just works.
Kerry Hopkins: We don't call them Loot Boxes we call them Surprise Mechanics.
I'm not really sold on this whole streaming thing yet. What gets me is that we keep hearing that game streaming is the future like it or not, get used to it. Stadia blows. GeForce Now keeps losing participating devs (and doesn't support GOG). X-Cloud seems to be the only service getting good lip service, and I don't know anything about it.
It's a very distant future. Most households simply do not have the internet for it.
It's not the future we want. It's just another form of DRM we need to stand against.
@@mr.hostility8970 ❤
They said the same thing about VR, remember? Sony doesn't. Or it wants to forget.
Geforce now barely supports any games that i play even though i own them. Fuck that
That part where Yong had to take a second... Guys, let's all remember this is the company that runs TH-cam, and let's also remember that they did NOT create TH-cam
The only successful service Google has ever created is the search engine.
@@DolusVulpes It really makes me wanna quote Hbomberguy: "Just... How can you be this bad?!"
@@DolusVulpes isn't Gmail a success
@@mrcat4508 maybe, but that depends heavily on how you define it's creation. The person who made it was working at Google at the time, but it was an idea he'd been working on for years before he joined the company.
Also Chrome is a huge sucess and that was made by google
Anthem and Fallout 76 have roadmaps as well.
So does the Epic Games Store (shit store), yet they still don't have a shopping cart or any features really 🙃
At least Fallout 76 seems to be following the roadmap even with its delays. Anthem has completely abandoned theirs.
Just so they have roadmaps don't really mean they can follow it nowadays lol
I hate where the big companies are going
5:40 - PREACH! SO MUCH THIS! Stop normalizing negative behavior and practices! This is the message game companies - and so many other companies, and individuals, and countries... - Need to hear!
Not them- the gamers. Its the shills that keep sticking up for them everyone someone calls them out on it that allows it to continue.
@@noboty4168 So much this. Also, if gamers would stop paying for unfinished products, developers would stop releasing them. The best way to get a big company to listen is by stopping feeding them money.
"Stadia is doing amazing and the best gaming platform ever!" ~ Google Assistant
@@ImMichaelJohn The Feds probably wouldn't care that much, but they'd definitely reply saying that the Stadia _is_ crap.
“It’s not about winning, it’s about sending a message”
It's not about playing, but paying.
Well burning down your proverbial house and peeing on the ashes sure sends a message alright. Especially if you keep trying to yell to everyone "ITS GONNA BE GREAT!" the whole time.
@@Sweet7Montana Turning Players into Payers
Customers become Consumers
@@Magnet977 I'm down for the burning part, but I think I can convince R.Kelly to help with the rest.
"It just works" sounds better
"Who's laughing now?"
"16x the detail"
A Pure Elder Scrolls Game
“Don’t guys have a strong internet Connection?”
"Now give us your money"
-Todd
Stadia: "Look, we've been continually failing for 3 months!"
And you're proud of that?
“This is fine” he’s gone full meme, oh no...
Nic Anastasi
Never go full meme
Cheryl Clark Ikr?
Cheryl Clark my man
How about the fact, I cancelled my pro sub for Stadia and now I can't play Destiny 2 anymore which is free everywhere else. Good job Google..
This is so sad. Destiny 2 is free to play on other platforms. Imagine paying $129 and losing access after 3 months.
Agent 005 and you get it also the newest expansion and the season pass for it . D2 is in a good place right now stadia not so much
You still have it, you can't even buy it because the base is free. Add ons can be bought in the game. You can can still claim it of you cancel your pro subscription
Destiny 2 isn't really a free to play title though. You can access some of the content for free, but if you want the whole experience, you have to buy the expansions (and you can bet your ass that there'll be more of them in the future).
@@KoffinKat except that the base game plus 2 DLCs are completely free alongside seasonal updates?
I'm not saying the D2 F2P experience is good, far from it, but it is an F2P title, having DLC doesn't change that
@@Spike2276 Base game plus 2 DLCs might be free, but there's already Shadowkeep that needs to be paid for and knowing Bungie, there'll be more expansions you will have to buy. It really just feels like Bungie wanted to get praise for their game being F2P without *actually* going F2P.
You opened with “Stadia!” And I just started laughing like in my head it’s already related to a stupid joke
Well Stadia actually is a stupid joke, so it makes sense.
9:22
The moment everyone came here for.
thx mate :)
9:15 tho
At this point Stadia and it's director feel like a scammy Kickstarter campaign.
Stadia: It's just a flesh wound!
Bring out your dead!
...
He's not dead yet!
*Bonk*
We he's dead now!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You're a loony!
And it’s fine!
Nvidia: What are you gonna do, bleed on me?
Stadia: This is fine. You see, where introducing thre brand new games to our platform by next month: Fallout 76, Anthem, and Warcraft lll: Reforged!
Dr. Unknown dads never understand
Why is Stadia still alive?
Because Google owns it. Kinda like having a rich daddy keeping your failing hobby project of a company afloat.
Just to suffer.
whatevr99 Like a phantom pain.
I don't even know, nobody's buying it, nobody's playing it.
Because for SOME reason, Google's not ready to give up on it yet.
"it's not just about some marginal improvements, it's not about a specific feature. it's about a big, bold statement of where we are going"
oh so basically what they mean is that they are trying to say "f**k you" indirectly to every customer who payed and still is paying money for this pile of crap.
"this is fine. this is great."
The people that spent their money BEFORE watching reviews... Learn from it
They never will sadly
Me: How are you still alive?
Stadia: I have no idea.
Stadia: *muffled sounds from coffin*
"this is fine" they say as they lose money
Doubt itll be a considerable loss for google.
Theyll just move on to their next agenda.
Fockin corporates
The sad reality is that the money Google is losing is probably very small to the point they can just abandon the whole thing and it will not even put a tiny dent in their company both money and integrity wise. I feel bad for those who actually supported and want this service to work. Literally a complete waste of money.
@@TheBlargMarg
My sentiments really.
Unfortunately. They could afford it. They have money to burn
More importantly they've lost credibility.
I think I know one of the lesser known reasons why Google Stadia is an unpopular platform for game releases:
Many game developers don't think that the high internet bill for playtesting games on Google Stadia would be worth it, when they can playtest their games anywhere else on much more popular platforms for practically free in comparison.
And when they need to playtest for months, the internet bill would add up to something really REALLY expensive, which they wouldn't be able to recoop with how unpopular Google Stadia is for gamers.
1:38....Anyone else get instant Mighty No.9 vibes when Yong said it's better than nothing?
Stadia will probably get dumped within the next few months faster than an anime fan on prom night, too.
*Google:* It's okay, launch is about the same as youtube in 2005.
Except Stadia is a Paid platform, even it's "Free" tier requires a paid comission, which is buying games on the platform, and even that is WIP. Customers are literally being used as paying beta testers.
Besides. You still pay the full price for games who have been on the market for a while.
While other platforms like Steam and GOG offer a better catalogue of products for more or less reasonable prices. Plus GOG is DRM free and let's you keep your games once you buy them. Plus they revealed that they are enabling cross saves between PC and the Nintendo Switch for Witcher 3 Wild Hunt. It's not perfect at the moment, but the will to improve is there.
Stadia doesn't have a future
So Anthem, but worse
@@darrylferguson3622 Yup
@@cymes82 legit was about to comment this
And Google didn't even make TH-cam, they bought it from a bunch of guys who had already mostly fleshed it out as a passion project.
I got a joke for you:
Stadia
OMG SO FUNNY
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! LMFAO WHO DID THIS?
Agagagagagagaga
I didn't get it
Lmmfao!!
Google STADIE: "it's fine" that we completely rushed things out the door instead of waiting a few more months/years and improving and really polishing everything up and making sure everything was actually working properly
Google STADIE: "it's fine" that we are the biggest laughing joke on the internet with gaming next to failout 76 and deadthem and maybe even scamraiders at this point.
Google STADIE: "it's fine" that our competition aka MICROSOFT and NVIDIA are putting us to absolute shame at EVERY TURN.
Google STADIE: "it's fine" that we don't actually realize or even accept that STADIE has ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE againest NVIDIA and MICROSOFT at this point because we rushed things out the door so quickly green lighting everything without any type of logic that our own product was WRECKED and turned into a DUMPSTER FIRE OVERNIGHT!
I mean let's be honest Google's STADIE WRECKED itself when Google THOUGHT they had a place in the gaming space LOL yeah that worked out REAL WELL DIDNT IT GOOGLE! SO WELL IN FACT THAT GOOGLE YOUR "STADIE" GOT FUCKED AND ABSOLUTELY OBLITERATED MURDERED EVEN BY MICROSOFT AND NVIDIA AT THE SAME TIME OVERNIGHT and why is that? oh that's easy BECAUSE MICROSOFT AND NVIDIA ARE JUST BETTER and WHY are they BETTER? BECAUSE MICROSOFT AND NVIDIA ACTUALLY FUCKING KNOW HOW TO SELL THEIR FUCKING CLOUD GAMING SHIT AKA THEIR NOT RUSHING SHIT OUT THE DOOR AKA NVIDIA AND MICROSOFT ARE ACTUALLY DOING ACTUAL BETA'S FOR THEIR PRODUCTS AND NOT CHARGING ANYONE A SINGLE FUCKING DIME! AKA NVIDIA AND MICROSOFT HAVE ACTUALLY THOUGHT THEIR SHIT THROUGH! UNLIKE YOU GOOGLE WHO ONLY KNOW HOW TO BURY YOUR SHIT BECAUSE OF THE EVER EXPANDING GRAVEYARD IN YOUR OWN BACKYARD GOOGLE! FUCK YOU GOOGLE, FUCK GOOGLE STADIE AS WELL THAT SHIT WASNT JUST WRECKED THAT SHIT WAS DEAD ON ARRIVAL THAT SHIT WAS PUT TO DEATH AND THROWN IN THE DITCH OVERNIGHT!!!
This comment sure did escalate
big news : stadia was dead before getting born !
@@moot1980 and I'm not sorry for it
If there's one thing Stadia is doing a good job on, it's being a test platform for the XCloud.
Stadia could not be a clearer example of "who cares? we got their money!" So, yeah, I'm pretty sure this is fine in their eyes.
Screw Stadia! I'll play games on the PS4 and Nintendo Switch.
Don't forget Xbox and PC
Then again, PC has the Epic game store
Start praying either way :l
@@jarothewerewolf5277 epic game store lmao, steam all the way, everyday
Stadia: literally on its bleedout timer
Google: All according to keikaku
Actually they’re using their own translate app, so it’s all going according to cake
@@DaFro3713 Translator's note cake means shit.
Now I'm reminded of DBZ:A... gonna miss that chapter. :(
@@DaFro3713 fucking brilliant
The Golden age of gaming has come to an end all of the household names of games are now the enemy and have fallen far from grace now games are "You get what we give you and you will like it because you are cattle you are a number not a person owed for what you paid for and promised take this garbage and keep paying us shut up stand in line and do what WE tell you."
And so we migrate to other areas that actually care and leave the corporate tinged side of the industry to do what they please. After all, the indie space has a number of good titles. We're not beholden to the big names, after all.
Good thing we still have retro gaming and indie games to fall back on.
@Maluzius Network nah. We'll always find that corner of it that we like. And if that fails, we'll make our own games.
@Maluzius Network no problem. As long as there's a demand for good, honest games, there will be someone somewhere looking to provide.
'over-delivered' when your company public announcements provide the exact parodies of the situation, is when it just goes too far.
Honestly, I'm at the point where I think there need to be some investigations into these companies, because I'm having a hard time seeing how stunts like these are not false advertising, at the very least. I'd also be livid if I were a share holder in any of these companies, because treating consumers like this is always going to bite you in the butt eventually. I would say we need to get Congress on this, but, let's face it, most of our congressmen are so over-the-hill that they don't have the slightest idea how the gaming industry functions and why this stuff is so bad. And too many of them have been in office more than half of their lives, _which is why term limits need to be a thing for the legislature._
That thumbnail is freaking gold Yong.
What they're doing with this and games is shifting the product development cycle. Instead of reaching a functional stage before release they've moved it to release a skeleton of a product; a working prototype sold to the public. From which they can slowly add to it if it is financially viable to continue to do so. Therefore cutting the cost of r&d and development, promising what their vision is (which should be provided upon release) and having the public who purchase it pay for the development of the product. It's disgusting.
I keep forgetting stadia is even a thing until you upload something about it lol that thing was dead on arrival
Boy, the future of gaming seems to have come and gone in a blink of an eye, hasn’t it?
The future of gaming is bright. Its just coming from Indy and AA devs instead of the rotting AAA companies.
I think the big issue with “well this platform from ___” is that they don’t understand that what it was back then still had plenty of stuff for the time. Steam and TH-cam put up what was the “standard” (very loose cause there wasn’t much to draw from then) at the time then built from there. We have a new standard that these platforms need to live up to. Valve didn’t release an awful VR headset then say “well Nintendo had the Virtual Boy.” No they made a headset that went with the tech we have today
I remember the days of OnLive where you could play a 30 minute demo of a game before buying it, and that was in its early days. Also digital games on that platform were priced at a max of $50.
Google: thanks for the money dummy
Pretty much....
Ayeee, I just got the reference lol
Good ol dsp
Everyone: Stadia is Dead
Doronichev: Yeah, but it's only been 3 months, so it's fine
This man Yong writing full paragraphs as the title. 😂
That is why we love him
It’s his signature move.
Full sentences
Qwerty It was purposefully a hyperbolic comment
I am gratified that the _loosing access to the game_ upon subscription expiration is being expressed. It shines a light on a large drawback with the game streaming business model.
Insert "this is fine" meme here.
"16 times the detail"
60 FPS BLAST PROCESSING 3D GRAPHICS. 💥💥💥
Literally the thumbnail..
Why does Stadia list the BRANDS & TYPES of the smartphones that will work, instead of just the min spec, "Android 9 or higher with 2GB RAM" or something like that?
I mean, imagine that in PC gaming world, Assassin's Creed only works on Lenovo X20, HP something, instead of Windows 7 or higher (the specs).
The weird thing is, stadia is "testing" this app on other android devices
Yet if you install chromium and config it to recognise a Bluetooth controller, you can just run stadia through that on any device AND via mobile data, I've been doing this for months, why Google are lacking behind is beyond me
And since using Nvidia Geforce, that works a lot better and has an on-screen controller layout incase you wanna just play a game like a mobile app (for me I've been playing TemTem)
I like the concept of stadia, but it's lacking and not really trying to improve.
Stadia is like the epic games store, they don't care about functionality, they just expect users to consume it and they'll get around to it later
Google is getting more and more incompetent.
It's good to see the Asus ROG Phones getting some love, even if it's by stadia. I have an Asus ROG Phone II and it's amazing, but it's more of a niche phone so less people know about it.
Also, I didn't know you had an Asus ROG Phone Yong, that's awesome
I love it when corporate employees and executives come out and give a patronizing PR response and think gamers can't smell the bullshit that comes from it. I mean come on, it should be common sense at this point that the general gaming community is full of very smart people that can read between the lines. But how many of them actually go to any place where they can actually hear feedback from any of them? I bet not many of them actually watch youtube.
"I mean come on, it should be common sense at this point that the general gaming community is full of very smart people that can read between the lines"
I don't know about that one.
The thing is, they don't consider things such as "release" these days. They see it as the day of access. The day where people are able to purchase the right to access it. They don't feel like they're obligated to deliver. Just like with games, they might add basic features later.
This is the equivalent of them saying "It was a social experiment."
There a difference between having a vision and delivering an promise. Don’t advertise something that isn’t present yet.
Stadia... the “Anthem” of gaming platforms!
If Stadia had offered Anthem on their platform at launch, It would have been so fitting the universe would have imploded.
im happy you reported on this topic again. amongst my subscriptions, inside gaming posted a video about stadia. I was generally interested but i didn't want to hear from them. their format has become too wacky and loud for me now. I know you mentioned you sometimes get tired of talking about the same thing but i really am glad i heard it from you.
Companies like Google just love to pretend that everything’s going pretty well for shits and giggles, don’t they?
It's hard to imagine any other reason for pretending that everything's swell.
If they ever admit failure in anything their stock tumbles, so yeah.
@@themoleman6806 Good point.
Roadmap translates to: If you buy enough and support our product for a long period of time... we might get around to actually add some more stuff.
Y'know, I clicked the Like button because it's advocating for the customer when companies are clearly not respecting that idea. But I stopped listening at about 4 minutes in. Why? Because it's no longer shosking. Companies all across the e-gaming landscape no longer feel obligated to strive for the best possible product to offer to their customers. In the minds of these companies, it's no longer a failure when launching an unfinished product that does not work as advertised. In the minds of these avaricious idiots, failure is a business plan. Tell you what, Alphabet, EA, Activision, Bethesda, you go on releasing partial products, and I'm going to start buying them with partial dollar bills.
If they go through with connecting the controller to the data center, it would be interesting to see how that turns out. There could be a good amount of input lag since I imagine the ‘monitor’ and controller send packets asynchronously and if the controller sends something out after the phone refreshes then it wouldn’t register or be jittery probably. Also, missed inputs or choppy movement might exist as well, since I’m pretty sure they’d be using UDP (TCP would be too ‘slow’ and everything would need to stop if a packet came out of series) and I don’t know how that’d go down on games where time sensitive inputs count, especially on horrible internet. If they could pull it off, I’d actually be very impressed. I love your videos, thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and I’m looking forward to the next one!
Didn't they try to push the idea of "Negative Latency"?
Btw, that would be PRECOGNITION.
Yeah I think they could do it with a probability drive hooked up to a flux capacitor mounted inside of a police box.
And then Geforce NOW launched, nearly flawlessly from what I've seen so far! Great experience thus far, just want more resolution options
Honestly it's the No Man's Sky fallacy, and the Final Fantasy ( I forget which one it is that is the MMO that had to be rework from the ground up but came out great) fallacy. Ever since no man's sky started out as crap, and then became good (haven't played it but that's what everyone says). People think that companies will work to make something better if we don't approve just because a very small company did it. Or something that was crap,( again haven't played the Final Fantasy game.) That got Revisited and reworked into something that everyone liked. I may not have played these games.
But "fans" seems to have a mentality for something like this. Instead of being able to criticize thing they love. I mean with the anthem reboot, you here's some people eagerly waiting saying it's going to be the thing that fixes it. The thing that people who stuck with it can turn around to everyone else and laugh at them. When in reality it may be the case and the thing is fixed. But who's to say that's what actually will happen. How long will we have to wait.
( please note I'm only using Anthem as an example. I really do hope it prospers. And I have no stake towards it or against it.)
The thing is we should praise it when things get fixed. We should be happy when we finally get what we wanted. What we paid for. But it's so hard when we are dealing with an industry it just seems to want to take the easy way out 9 out of 10 times. People will try to defend something anything that they have invested in.
We can't blame them, let them enjoy what they enjoy. But if nobody speaks out nothing will change.
But I have to admit oh, sometimes we shouldn't waste our breath. It's companies like Google right now the things take a hold themselves up like this. That are so tone-deaf to the situation. Make a stand with your money. Ask yourself do you really enjoy this platform. Really ask yourself. If you don't if you think it needs to be better. Then don't renew until it is.
To put it simply have standards for yourself. Have standards of what to expect from the start and what is there supposed to be now
Bro you are the realist and demand answers, never stop! Best channel on all this shit there is!
If I wanted to spend my money on a "bold statement," I'd become some kind of serious activist.
"my new car doesn't run... and there's no stereo."
"well it hasn't been out for that long..."
Gamer: this is bad. I will boycott this.
Stadia: i don't care
Gamer: inputs credit card details for 1 year recurring pro subscription with multiple controllers.
I honestly was hoping it would eventually get better but now I want it to fail even more miserably for not owning up to it.
I’m calling it now, this is gonna be dead is six months-a year.
X-cloud and Psnow are the only services I see getting better and more popular in the future
*" This is Fine,This is great "*
I was already skeptical way before Stadia released but seeing these dumdums still say this after launch.
Who are you kidding?
don't kid yourself, it's a cry for help.
"we over delivered" lmao what
If you expect to release of incomplete products and expect to get any distance with it you are sadly mistaken because you must make a good first impression cuz if you don’t well your screwed.
"negative lag" AHAHAHAHAHAH xd
Some idiot believe that shit.