@@ericmsandoval yes and no. The recordings on Meantime were a mix between wooden snare and brass snare. John uses a brass snare live so you're probably better off getting a brass snare cranked
Yes... Stanier is what you would like to be as a drummer. Precise, powerful, rudimentary, control and sound beyond belief and he is just an outstanding Drummer / Musician.
Absolutely right! John Stanier's drumming is outstanding.Extremely powerful, precise & tight; always focused on "serving" the song. (No spastic, unfocused show-off moves or trying to set new records in "double pedal speed" or whatever many people might consider "great rock drumming".
I was in a band back in my teens and in a recording studio recording a few songs. We played the producer Unsung because Helmet were very influential for us, and he said "This is great, but that's a drum machine". It was actually a LIVE recording of Unsung that we'd played him, and he was gobsmacked when we told him! :D
Can't believe I just found this. Stanier is amazing. I would take a brutal, solid, consistent player, a guy who does the right thing for the song, every day of the week, over a guy who's good but who overplays.
Small rolling ghost notes can't be heard in the full mix, killer! Don't think it's an artifact because it's perfectly on beat and sounds intentional because of the repetition
Man, John is such a beast on the drums. Him and David Silveria (Korn) influenced me to play the drums and play a big part in my playing style. Helmet and Korn 4 life!!!
Brandon Beats yeah I agree. Don't listen to them nearly as much as I used to, but Ray I think is a great drummer and hopefully has been one of the key components that has helped KoRn still be relevant today
Ck out Sal Abruscato on Type O Negative's first 2 albums ('Slow, Deep, and Hard' and 'Bloody Kisses'). He is KILLING, and some of that shit is SUPER slow, too!!
@@MarkDanov ray has proved his worth . Korn wouldn’t sound the way they do without David Silveria being influenced by stanier, bordin and vinnie paul. The groove of those 3 drummers with the power of Igor cavelera were monumental in the evolution of metal in the 1990s
This is insane... Unbelievable power and precision, ridiculous drum (particularly snare) sound. Only thing that comes close is Jimmy Chamberlin's performance on The Everlasting Gaze (there's also an isolated version of that up on TH-cam).
Elliot Stent Yeah, but very different drummers - Chamberlain was more about dynamics than sheer power. I think, along with Grohl, they were easily the 3 best drummers of the 90s.
The third time I saw John play was in '96 (Helmet Sevendust tour?)I was trippin my ass off and couldn't see him well enough,decided on stage was best..I spent their entire set on stage..I swore if I ever had a chance again I wouldn't miss it. April 21,2022 Battles came to a teeny tiny club..yep,my ass was as close to his kit as I could get..3ft...the man is amazing truly breathtaking....it was my last show,(health wont allow more)Santa made up for lost time
the breakdown is actually 5 measures of standard count. each measure counted in eighth notes (1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and) and on the 6th measure he hits the kick and crash on the "and of 3". you never count past 4 or 8 in music (unless your in a weird time signature like 15/16 or 9/8 or something) so as a music teacher I must explain this correctly. its /1+2+3+4+/1+2+3+4+/1+2+3+4+/1+2+3+4+ /1+2+3+4+/1+2+3+ +/1+2+rest/ repeat. just remember to come in on the and of 3, measure 6. super easy to count
YOU'RE ALL WELCOME! He & i worked EXTREMELY hard to get the drum sounds, that make John, John. I enjoyed "working"💩😜 as his drum-tech as MEANTIME was released (PSALM69 TOUR w/MINISTRY & SEPULTURA OPENING, MEANTIME u LIAR TOUR W/JESUS LIZARD & THERAPY?(Ireland) & named BETTY, then split. Did TAD INHALER TOUR for Josh (also phenominal human) & Toured extensively, drumming in my Portland Industrial Band Hitting Birth. Cheers folks & WILL ALWAYS LOVE my "Road Brethren"! 🔥🥁🖤🎶💀🤘
Listening to the record I always thought the drums were using sample triggers, but from this isolated track it's clear that these are live drums. Pretty cool.
I checked out Battles (didn't care for them unfortunately) because John Stanier is on the short list of musicians I respect enough to give a listen to anything they've recorded.
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Best snare sound I've ever heard.
Alls you gotta do is crank your snare, mayne!
@@ericmsandoval yes and no. The recordings on Meantime were a mix between wooden snare and brass snare. John uses a brass snare live so you're probably better off getting a brass snare cranked
Me too
Is that a piccolo snare with the snare off?
@@egnbigdave no. It's a 14x5 or 6
Yes... Stanier is what you would like to be as a drummer. Precise, powerful, rudimentary, control and sound beyond belief and he is just an outstanding Drummer / Musician.
Absolutely right! John Stanier's drumming is outstanding.Extremely powerful, precise & tight; always focused on "serving" the song. (No spastic, unfocused show-off moves or trying to set new records in "double pedal speed" or whatever many people might consider "great rock drumming".
dashwig stainer is anti double kick as far as I know
i'd take a john stanier over a thomas pridgen in my band any day
And played too fast live
Gods, his snare drum sound is beautiful imo
I was in a band back in my teens and in a recording studio recording a few songs. We played the producer Unsung because Helmet were very influential for us, and he said "This is great, but that's a drum machine". It was actually a LIVE recording of Unsung that we'd played him, and he was gobsmacked when we told him! :D
John Stanier is really underrated. Such an amazing drummer.
Bostap, I don't think he's underrated in the drumming community. He one of the most well respected alternative rock drummers ever.
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I don't think anyone commenting here underrate him......
Play to the music. Take notes, there are like 2 actual fills in the whole song.
Can't believe I just found this. Stanier is amazing. I would take a brutal, solid, consistent player, a guy who does the right thing for the song, every day of the week, over a guy who's good but who overplays.
Stanier is a beast. I'll hear no argument!
I'm a guitar guy but... His drums sound so... Beautiful. I can't explain why cause I don't play drums but damn, I like him
Small rolling ghost notes can't be heard in the full mix, killer! Don't think it's an artifact because it's perfectly on beat and sounds intentional because of the repetition
The precision when he´s playing this song live is unbelievable!
The rhythm of his snare seems unmovable. Making the foundation extra deep... concrete.
He is the epitome of pocket groove playing. And his stuff with Battles only reenforces that!
Holy shit!! All this time I thought John Stanier used a double pedal!! Dude has a foot like Bonham!!
listening to this in isolation makes me really appreciate that NY hardcore sound that John brought with him to Helmet
Its even funnier cause John is from Florida lmao
The second time I saw Helmet, I was front row. Told the people with me to watch John. They were mesmerized, and blown away!
Sick profile picture bro
One of the best snares sounds, right up there with Abe Cunningham's snare
Yeah Cunningham does have a nice sounding snare also and he's also a jam up drummer fits the music perfect
Both Tama, so yeah. Brann Dailor’s sounds similar.
same with tim redmond from snapcase
My favorite thing about this song was the drums! Beautiful yet simple
John Stanier and Ted Parsons are 2 of my favorite drummers as well the two having the best snare sound.
Man, John is such a beast on the drums. Him and David Silveria (Korn) influenced me to play the drums and play a big part in my playing style. Helmet and Korn 4 life!!!
Brandon Beats what's your take on Korn's current drummer Ray?
Mark Dano I think he's an amazing drummer. He's been a big part of Korns evolving sound since David left and they've done a good job of still rocking
Brandon Beats yeah I agree. Don't listen to them nearly as much as I used to, but Ray I think is a great drummer and hopefully has been one of the key components that has helped KoRn still be relevant today
Ck out Sal Abruscato on Type O Negative's first 2 albums ('Slow, Deep, and Hard' and 'Bloody Kisses'). He is KILLING, and some of that shit is SUPER slow, too!!
@@MarkDanov ray has proved his worth . Korn wouldn’t sound the way they do without David Silveria being influenced by stanier, bordin and vinnie paul. The groove of those 3 drummers with the power of Igor cavelera were monumental in the evolution of metal in the 1990s
This is insane...
Unbelievable power and precision, ridiculous drum (particularly snare) sound. Only thing that comes close is Jimmy Chamberlin's performance on The Everlasting Gaze (there's also an isolated version of that up on TH-cam).
Elliot Stent Yeah, but very different drummers - Chamberlain was more about dynamics than sheer power. I think, along with Grohl, they were easily the 3 best drummers of the 90s.
Agreed!
Funny that, they are my top two drummers (Stanier and Chamberlin).
Chamberlain is way better than Grohl let’s be honest
Listen to that snare man.
That snare sings like an angel
One of my favorite drummers.
My favorite snare sound. Period.
The third time I saw John play was in '96 (Helmet Sevendust tour?)I was trippin my ass off and couldn't see him well enough,decided on stage was best..I spent their entire set on stage..I swore if I ever had a chance again I wouldn't miss it.
April 21,2022 Battles came to a teeny tiny club..yep,my ass was as close to his kit as I could get..3ft...the man is amazing truly breathtaking....it was my last show,(health wont allow more)Santa made up for lost time
sweet sounding & fabulous part/playing. miss classic helmet. the Tempesta iteration was a fabulous thing live...
the breakdown is actually 5 measures of standard count. each measure counted in eighth notes (1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and) and on the 6th measure he hits the kick and crash on the "and of 3". you never count past 4 or 8 in music (unless your in a weird time signature like 15/16 or 9/8 or something) so as a music teacher I must explain this correctly. its /1+2+3+4+/1+2+3+4+/1+2+3+4+/1+2+3+4+
/1+2+3+4+/1+2+3+ +/1+2+rest/ repeat. just remember to come in on the and of 3, measure 6. super easy to count
I've had the honor of talking to Page in person about this song and he said there's no counting involved. It's just feeling it out
Could somebody please do this for the entire album? And Betty and Aftertaste too while you’re at it!
nice ...would be great
YOU'RE ALL WELCOME! He & i worked EXTREMELY hard to get the drum sounds, that make John, John. I enjoyed "working"💩😜 as his drum-tech as MEANTIME was released (PSALM69 TOUR w/MINISTRY & SEPULTURA OPENING, MEANTIME u LIAR TOUR W/JESUS LIZARD & THERAPY?(Ireland) & named BETTY, then split. Did TAD INHALER TOUR for Josh (also phenominal human) & Toured extensively, drumming in my Portland Industrial Band Hitting Birth. Cheers folks & WILL ALWAYS LOVE my "Road Brethren"! 🔥🥁🖤🎶💀🤘
Whats your band name?
Do you know what snare john used back then?
respect man, I've spent many years on the road myself and guys like you are crucial to making the music we all love happen
Yea josh from Tad is a great drummer. Let's not forget Mac from Jesus Lizard. John and Mac my 2 biggest influences as a drummer
SNARE PERFECTION.
Gotta love the organic sound of TAMA
TAMA Artstar kits he was using wasn't he? Totally agree (Y)
Listening to the record I always thought the drums were using sample triggers, but from this isolated track it's clear that these are live drums. Pretty cool.
This isn’t the record, this is from a soundboard from a concert. The record uses samples
that kick drum sounds like a fucking cannon
Anyone know if there is an isolated drum track for In The Meantime floating around?
How does his snare sound so different and distinct? Amazing.
Literally all you have to do is crank your snare heads
@@ericmsandoval No you don't
He marched a lot so he's got really good technique
@mattlancaster8497 He rimshots all his snare hits
EQ/gate/compression
Yeah the snare, but anybody realise how precise his bass drum is? The guy is a metronome
This snare and from From Parts Uknown (Every Time I Die) and from album Slipknot/1999, best drum snare i ever heard. Love that punch.
So much heavy groove in a tight ass pocket.
SICK!!!
There's a rumor that Stainier played his drums with hammers back in Helmet & I'm inclined to believe it
How did you manage to get this ? Is it straight from the record ?
Inject this into my veins
Such a huge sound
I checked out Battles (didn't care for them unfortunately) because John Stanier is on the short list of musicians I respect enough to give a listen to anything they've recorded.
If you liked Stainers drumming in Helmet, you should check out his work with The mark of cain.
or tomahawk better !!!!!!
Amazing
Omg!!! Thanx!!! 🔊🍻🔊
Beast
would be nice to hear the isolated "birth defect" drums
Facts
I'm thinking ?uestlove might've gotten signature snare sound from Stanier
How does one’s right foot get good enough to do that
offffffffffff ♥
Great
Magic.
Cramp! Ow, Oh, God... Cramp. Cramp! CRAMP!!!
How do I get this dry snare sound?
WOW
This is the alternate version
What snare is that?
From what I've heard it's a mix of both a brass and wooden snare. Live though John uses just a tama brass snare
That is not the original recording drum track. It's fast and a bit different. Still awesome tho
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Sick! But where is vocal track
It's about the drum track... The vocal you hear is just bleed through
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