The M3 iMac Isn't for me (or you...)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2024
- The M3 iMac is one of the most beautifully well thought out computers that I have ever used, every time I stare at it on my desk I can't help but admire the stunning but playful colorful design and wonder how Apple was able to fit a powerful computer into its silm design, let alone a great display and speakers... but after using the new M3 iMac I have realized that the iMac isn't for me anymore... and it might not be for you either.
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I bought M3 iMac recently and love it. It's perfect coming from hunching over an M1 Air on my desk. The large screen is awesome and the build quality and speed are amazing!
Are you able to the IMAC monitor as a 2nd monitor for work connecting to a laptop, for example?
Large screen?? 😂😂😂😂
@@arxeiapersonal8109 compared to a Macbook air it sure is larg-er
@@arxeiapersonal8109yes, if comparing it to a 13 inch 😂
@@arxeiapersonal8109my Mac is 21”, therefore 24, to me, is considered large
I really don't understand the obsession with "thin" for a desktop. It's not like I'm carrying it around with me or have strict weight restrictions on my desk. They limit the imac to make it "thin", something I don't value at all.
so true. i love my mac studio
Possibly shared design elements from their laptop lines. Nearly everything uses LPDDR5
Couldn't agree more. Maybe they're targeting K-6 grade classrooms with these, which wouldn't be a bad move.
Especially if we are talking about a few millimetres difference. Its still a thin design compared to the older giant cathode ray monitors
If it's completely open in your home, it's great if it's thin and beautiful.
I'm a pro designer and have been using the 27" iMacs for like 15 years... I'm in need of an update, and I've been holding out hope for a new 27" iMac, but that just doesn't seem to be in the cards. To put together a comparable Mac using the Mac Studio and Studio display is like twice or triple the price of the iMacs... Very frustrated...
Same here!
Try a different display, there are amaIng BenQ alternatives or Asus ProArt displays rated for professional graphic design with calman certifications and just get a mac mini with m2 pro and upgrade just the RAM that way you can just use external storage as the upgrade pricing om Apple is ridiculously high
this is where I'm still at. But my current imac is from 2015 LOL
there are many cheaper displays than the studio display with acceptable color accuracy
This is where I’m at too. 2017 27” iMac with quad core I7, 40gb user replaceable RAM, 2tb Fusion Drive. Lightroom is starting to bog down. What is my path to upgrade??
I’m a father of a 3 year old and his mother only does light computing, I think the iMac is perfect for our use case.
I don’t want the family computer to be our phone or a laptop that can just be used wherever and whenever. Attention spans are diminishing big time.
I want my son to sit down and have a dedicated space (in the living room) to learn and play.
Other parents will know what I mean when our kids attention is already so fragmented by streaming services, phones, toys, random kiddy toy unboxing videos etc.
I’d like the iMac to be a central and dedicated place to focus him when he wants to use a computer (hoping it helps reduce passive screen time where he wants to switch his favourite shows before he’s had time to settle into anything).
Base configuration should suffice though might go 512 GB for the r/w speed.
Expecting the iMac to be just for note taking, budgeting, online shopping, browsing, light gaming etc
If you didn’t buy it yet get the 512 my iMac m1 is full 256 gb
@@ILovefood92 I got 512 but recommend looking into Thunderbolt 3 (min) M.2 external drive and enclosure. Relatively good value, well worth it imo
@@ILovefood92 im looking at one now
If that's the case just buy a desktop computer from Microsoft
I use an M2 MBAir with 27” Studio monitor, keyboard, trackpad and mouse at home. It is then a very nice laptop as well for travel. I has my 27” Cinema Screen from 2011 up to 2022 and still worked perfectly and looked brand new. I used that for 2 MBAirs. When I went to M2 I decided to move to a 5k Studio. I expect it will be my last system as I am now 81. I use an external SSD as my Time Machine.
awww dont say that, hopefully you'll live as long as you want to! (which is not realistic i know but) i don't know it made me feel kinda sad when i've read this line "I expect it will be my last system as I am now 81. " but i know it's the reality of life!
@@sultanalamri534 Thanks for kind thoughts! 😊
The majority are buying iMac to watch you on TH-cam and check email (not computing theoretical physics) Great vid.
I’m so glad I bought my iMac M3, it’s powerful enough for me and the display is absolutely stunning! I really couldn’t care less about the peripherals being lightning, it’s not an issue.
What did you have before? It seems like all the complaints are coming from 27" iMac owners. Especially the "why is the screen so SMALL?". I've had mine a week, sit 18-24" away, and it's BIG. Big enough that the viewing angle of the sides is enough that there's a little grey "glow" on a black background. That'd be worse if it was 27". Unless it was OLED, which would be a lovely option. 27" OLED iMac for $8K.
I REALLY do not get the obsession these reviewers have with the keyboard and trackpad charge ports. "Apple switched to usb-c on the iphone!"... yes, for the new one. Almost everyone buying these still has a lightning charging iphone next to it. The upside down mouse is a joke, but an old joke.
To me, it’s more of a fashion statement than a high power machine. If I had a first floor office in my house, it would be perfect especially since my main use is general light computing.
This is an awesome family computer or anyone that doesn’t make long form videos or heavy duty music. This is still a work of art and I will buy this next for my grandchildren for Christmas 🎄.
Frankly, it's more than adequate for anything less than full-blown pro use. Home use includes gaming, and it is perfectly capable for that. A M3 Pro option would have been nice, if I wanted it to last 5-7 years like my last iMac. Problem with that, is the old one doesn't sell for anything after 7 years. Upgrade at 4-5, and you can get enough from the old one to pay for a lot of the new.
@@radellaf It won't. Don't count on that. Sure, the machines are built like tanks (or at least they once were) but why do that and then charge for it when these machines are not expected to be supported longer than four years from now? Whereas once, the average was seven or eight years, Apple has cut that back. Why? Well, why not? Apple loyalists will shell out huge coin regardless and be stubbornly proud in doing so. So, why not take advantage of that? It is after all a corporation, it isn't a friend, or even a person. It's a business. And that is what businesses do. So, if people want to pay top dollar for machines that are no longer upgradable either by the user or Apple itself (yes, it states this on the order page), and these machines are not intended to be supported for more than the next four years, let them. Idiocy has always reigned supreme. It's just a damn shame, because as a three-decade long Apple user myself, I can no longer support a company whose business ethics have so descended in such a way that I find it heinous to do so. Even more shocking, is despite how we always adored Apple back in the day, something odd has occurred these past ten or fifteen years. Today that appreciation for a good product put out by a fairly ethical company has become a religious fervor if not a cult where no matter what that company does, today's loyalists will eat it up and do so stubbornly and proudly. This is remarkable... or is it a form of mental illness? Whichever. It's no coin from my wallet.
@@radellafsimple gaming sure. But mac isnt really great for gaming
@@stephaned3072 I think that's a bit of a myth, as long as the game is available natively for the mac, like World of Warcraft.
@@radellaf not a myth. Im not sure maybe now with the m3 chips maybe its gone better. But games ran poorly on macs like visually you could see colors shift and game can run dark. It was mostly visual tho not sure why but yeah. Havent tried the latest macs tho maybe its sorted but the more simple games did run good
I would like a larger screen on the iMac but it wasn’t a deal breaker because I bought the M1 version and specked it up a bit. The 4.5k display definitely makes up for the smaller screen size, it’s a beautiful display. As for the more powerful chips or the lack of them, I have to be honest with myself; I don’t need them. I run two business on the M1 as well as my personal stuff. My wife has a personal log in of her own for her stuff and the whole thing works great.
Now I used to have a Mac Mini and it was a great computer, but the main problem with it is all the wires required to run the peripherals. Some of those use up the ports. And basically, even with some cable management it’s a messy setup.
The 24” iMac is a great computer for my needs. It will edit video when I need it to, and manage all of my documents and communications. A pro chip would help some people but really I think most people are deluding themselves into thinking they need more than the regular M1 or M3 SOC, I truly believe that for most people it’s just about bragging rights or feel good stuff knowing you have 18 graphics cores to brush out some stuff in the background of a photo.
I definitely would like an equivalent 27" version of the iMac, I was waiting for it for a long time. There is a market for a production machine iMac.
Same... I moved up from 24" monitors years ago at this point, and 24" would feel pretty small on my desk.
Mac Studio.
@@jasonleetaiwan I know, but the iMac is powerful enough for Photoshop, Logic, normal desktop production. The form factor is also a consideration when you buy. I miss the iMac.
Screw the Mac Studio- give us what we used to have in an iMac without having to buy a studio and a separate display
The M3 iMac is amazing. People should buy it. I already seen many other youtubers give positive feedback. The lightning instead of USB-C accessories is not a problem for me.
It's an amazing computer, but the audience for it is much smaller than it used to be.
It will be when ur lighting accessory is discontinued and u can’t buy it 😂
@@sosa8748they could discontinue it tomorrow and your lighting accessories will continue to work for years to come. The accessories utilizing lighting is such an overblown concern it comes with a braided lighting cable that will last for the lifetime time of the device plus it’s a desktop it’s not like you have to carry an extra cable around and it’s not like USB C is going to bring new features or capabilities so it’s not like you’ll want or need to replace them when the USB C versions are eventually released
Same here.I got it in Yellow with 16GB RAM and 512GB storage and love it.That’s sufficient enough for my use.It’s a good upgrade from my 27” Intel iMac from 2017.The iMac was really always meant as a family computer and not for Pro’s.The only reason they released that Pro model a few years back was a stop gap whilst they developed the 2019 Mac Pro to replace the Trash Can from 2013. Long live the iMac.
All Macs have USB ports. If your lightning peripherals stop working, simply buy the new model in USB-version.@@sosa8748
Imac is a consumer computer for homes and families,,the studio and mini is for business. They needed to make the iMac more appealing for home use and knew it would be because of data of sales of the coloured iPhones.
You're right. The iMac is really targeted for home. I guess the various colors should indicate that. Perfect for children and their compact small desks. I had to go Mac Studio for work. But not using an apple screen lessens the experience quite a bit.
Of course it is targeted for home consumers. It always has been since the 1990s, except for a few Pro models for those who want extra punch in their all-in-on.
I think this is partially due to two things:
1) Apple doesn’t want to design themselves into a corner. By using such a thin and small chassis, they may have to artificially limit their chips (present or future) to operate within the constraints they created. The Studio for example has a MASSIVE cooling system (relatively speaking) to allow for the entirety of performance their chips can operate on. Remember, the iMac is using *laptop* cooling fans.
2) They know ‘Pro’ users need more, and are willing to pay more - so why NOT upcharge to them? Instead of charging $1999 for a whole system, they can charge you $1999 for a desktop AND $1499 for a monitor and make $3498 off you.
Valid point!
you are only as good as your heat sink/cooling system
Pro users upgrade processing and storage capacity more often and due to video compression, gaming and other heavy use activities will use that same monitor potentially with 2-3 devices concurrently and sequentially. The only reason I purchased a Mac Mini M2 Pro is bc my 2011 late iMac is too dated to be compatible with my ecosystem peripherals (phone, pad, pods etc); even my air pods have a 7 second latency for sound. I THOUGHT I would be able to use my old iMac as a target display, nope. After 6 months of research the most compatible option is a studio display for the seamless experience with A/V. I considered purchasing an M3 iMac but will likely have the same issue 10 years down the line where it's just a dated box. A display, for better or worse, will be functional across multiple devices and hopefully beyond a decade being less dependent on an OS.
The up sale to $$$ multiple components is so transparent and feels traitorous given designers are most likely Apple's first and most loyal following. UGH
except that they just one sidedly redefined and started to dictate what "pro" is to a group of real pro power users who bought their previous gen offering, only to later be told "hey, this is what pro is now, get in line" when all apple meant was just entry to intermediate level media tasks.
It’s a fine Mac, you’re just not the intended audience for it. Apple builds the iMac for folks like my wife, she’s a telehealth psychologist. She doesn’t know what M3 versus M3 Max is, she cares if she can video chat with her clients, will her iPhone pics show up smoothly, and what color can she get it in.
Apple knows her. You and me? We get to buy Minis or Studios if we want a desktop Mac. It’s that simple. The iMac became a pro Mac in the Intel years because the Mini and Mac Pro weren’t suitable to do it. Today the Mini or Studio meets the needs, freeing up the iMac to be the desktop Mac that looks cute next to the cute receptionist… or for the “normal person” who doesn’t loose sleep if it’s a M1 or an M3. To that end, I got my wife a refurb M1 with 16 gigs of RAM. She’d never notice the processor.
They needed to update the peripherals and make the stand height adjustable... it's simply too short for many people. Those few things would have been pretty cheap to do and made a HUGE difference. I even think that even some M1 owners might have upgraded... as it is now I think many people will wait to see what comes next or get an M2 Mini and use their current monitor for less than half the price or a 14" Pro for the about the same...
You can change the height, for 400 bucks
@@davidaugustofc2574💀💀
Did you know Steve Jobs was actually pretty tall but had a hunch… considering he made these computers for himself originally it would make sense that he preferred a low slouched angle.
It's too high on my desk, but yeah, do something like the 10 y.o. Dell monitor mounts that slide up and down. Realistically, though, it's easy to get either a thick book, or some sort of 3rd party under-stand thing if you need more height. I did seriously think about getting the VESA version, but just didn't want to bother buying a mount arm/stand.
people have been complaining about apple monitor height for decades. they disagree with you. they are never changing it. perioid. they don’t care. they made up their mind.
I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of the M3. I waited and waited for Apple to come out with the 27" M3 as I had a 2011 iMac 27" that was just sucking wind. I was disappointed to not get the 27" but being an M3 i went for it. Yeah it's a fast computer and yeah it doesn't suck wind but, it's not a 27". Totally disappointed in Apple.
I think the path they chose now is a much better one. Before we only had the iMac basically.
Now the pro option is centered around the studio display.
I guess Apple can never ever win. Whatever they do people will complain about how they’re doing the wrong thing. Personally I think options are far better now than in the old iMac days
I went with iMac black , pro) few years back, , it’s best machine ever, don’t regret paying so much for it.. , every time I seat in front of it I enjoy how it looks and runs,
“Totally disappointed in Apple” for not making the computer that you wanted. Right.
the iMac black was the “premium” product a few years ago. How does it compare now? I’m not a pro but I have the 2017 iMac which has an i5 chip. I’m mainly a Windows user but I wanted at least one mac. It has a lovely 5k screen. It does everything I want but struggles with this game.
I considered getting a bag or case for it instead of buying a laptop for when I’m away from home.
Just got an M3 iMac with VESA mount. Put it near the kitchen bar and can watch shows, video chat, do the budget, edit photos etc. Perfect for our needs. I respect your take as someone who works with large video files--frustrating they couldn't get the M3 Pro in there.
the mouse charging on its back in the begining was GOLD!
The problem I have with the iMac is that when it goes obsolete you are throwing out a beautiful screen that you can't use as an external screen.
Apple has trade-ins
@@erickmejia1643 I just checked on the Apple site to check the trade-in value of my (still working perfectly but cannot upgrade OS or FCPX to latest release) late 2015 4 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7, 32 Gigs RAM, 1 TB SSD, AMD Radeon R9 M395X 4 GB was worth; their advice was RECYCLE. Guess I'll keep it until it stops working...
By utilizing the OCLP software an 'obsolete ' Mac can have newer or even the latest macOS installed. I have macOS 14.3 running on a MacBook Pro 13-inch from 2013. Have done similarly to a 2015 iMac Retina.
@@erickmejia1643 Somehow... you have failed to see the point entirely. Why trade in a perfectly good screen that could be utilized for something else just for a few hundred bucks of trade in coin from Apple? The monitor alone is going to be worth far more than that at the time of trade in. So, the point is... what a waste to not be able to use it for something more? Also, if one is able to use that machine for more than five years, the trade in value becomes nonexistent. So, that would require you having to do so well before you need to just to get a trade in value of what? A hundred bucks or so? On a machine that once upgraded to one's needs easily tops $2,000 how is that hundred dollars' worth even mentioning a trade in program exists in the first place? Oh, and ask me how I know why dontca? :)
@@erickmejia1643 Only up to a certain point. In my experience with the Macs that I have used - by the time it's ready for an upgrade, the old one has fallen out of the window of eligibility for trade in. Case in point, my first-generation iPad Pro, which still works fine, is worthless when it comes to trade in value.
100% agree. I love the iMac, and my 2011 27" served me well for years. Finally "upgraded" to the M1 iMac in 2021, and have been super disappointed. It's just weak compared to my old 27". I'd love a new pro-level iMac. Take my money!
Theres no way ur 2011 imac is more powerful than the m3
If you want a desktop mac, it's really all about the Mac Mini. Much better value.
Mac mini is an insane value
By the time you add your own monitor, camera, speakers, keyboard, mouse it really isn't. It doesn't look anywhere near as good.
Agree with above. If you get a screen anything like the iMac one you’re already paying the same amount….
@@shameermuljiNot necessarily. If you are buying everything new or potentially have no taste, sure. But for example I got a 50$ Thunderbolt Display used, you can get a better sound bar than the iMac speakers, and a better webcam. And for 50$ I have the Apple Aesthetic and 2k 1440p and 60 hertz. I got a used Apple Keyboard for 25 and a Magic Mouse 25, so for 100$ plus the mini, you can easily get the Apple package for a fraction of the price. Yes you need to decide whether 1440p and 60 hertz is for you, but the color accuracy was more important for me, and it’s beautiful despite being a decade old.
I went from a 27 inch imac to a mac mini with 2 studio displays, was the best choice i’ve made.
I think a height adjustable stand, similar to that found on the Audio display, would have been a nice option...
VESA mount is the option for that but you have to special order it, would have loved to see the M3 have both interchangeable as I think most people will repurpose these iMacs down the line and need to switch from wall to desk or vice versa. I mounted mine on a wall arm, Amazon Basics slaps their name on the premier brand making it very affordable.
@@RedErinI hear you but that mount kinda defeats the whole, “thin, light, portable, carry from room to room, family use” vibe. Also isn’t feasible for some room or desk configuration setups
Height adjustable should be default
I have my M1 sitting on top of a glass stand. The height wasn’t otherwise, ideal!
You hit the nail on the head Greg. I so badly wanted to finally upgrade my 2009 27” Quad Core i7 iMac. Was going to upgrade to the M3 iMac, but the lack of the more powerful chips and the usb-c peripherals kept me from making the purchase.
I have been waiting for Apple to update the iMac, and now that it's here, I will keep waiting. I'm still using my Late 2012 iMac, running perfectly.
My 2013 iMac, that I put in an SSD is also fine for me for now. Just too bad the OS can no longer be update.@@SashineB
@@mikaelbiilmann6826 I'm using Catalina for my OS. But I've seen videos on YT where older computer can take Sonoma. It's a bit of a process, though, I and don't think I would try it, although I've read it works well. If you would like the video link, just let me know.
I have seen videos on YT where they did that, but haven't tried it... I'd like the link if you have it handy, thank you.
@@SashineB
You're on a 2009 and you're complaining about a more powerful chip?
Definitely like the clarity and distinction Apple have made with their line-up. Each reflected in their designs.
Thinking about music production, I'm sure the M3 iMac is plenty capable of running superbly with many instances of today's plug-ins but I'm now fixed on an Apple display and Mac Studio to replace my 2015 27" iMac, itself a very able machine even now.
You have the same machine I have. 2015 27". And I'm also thinking of replacing mine. I' am so p'd that they discontinued the 27" screen size. I always just assumed I'd be buying another newer 27" model. Now the only way to get that screen size is to spend thousands more on separate components.
@@greenbluemonkeyI think discontinuing the 27” is right but they should keep the iMac Pro around
I just retired my 2013 27" iMac mostly because I could no longer update Adobe Lightroom. (the iMac was getting slow anyway). I bought the iMac M3 with 24GB. This thing is so much faster at uploading images and generating previews in Lightroom. The first few days the smaller screen made me question my decision but to be honest, there is still plenty of room to do editing and general computer tasks. Yes a Mac Mini or Studio could go further but it was a minimum $1500.00 dollars more to take that step with the 27" studio monitor. For me it wasn't worth it.
I was considering this iMac M3 24gb with 1 Tb for video editing and for lightroom specially as I'm a photographer. My current Macbook pro 2018 is struggling with Adobe Lightroom, Photoshop and their AI new tools. So in your experience, is it good for those task or should I move to a new Macbook pro M3?
@@JnManuelAG Actually,, I ended up returning the 24" M3 iMac for a M2 Mac mini with 24GB of RAM and a 27" Mac Studio display. It was simply the fact that I missed the 3" of monitor space lost and in the long run, I hopefully won't have to spend $$$ on a display the next time I upgrade.
When Lightroom/Photoshop have tools/panels open on the top and sides, the extra 3" of screen really made a difference on how much/big the remaining image was.
Since you're using a MacBook Pro, the 21" screen will probably be fine. Good luck.
@@NBPT428 thanks! Actually I prefer the big monitors too but at the time I needed to work remotely since I was traveling a lot. Since then I was just fine with my macbook pro 15" but this lightroom and PS updates demanded more. So I was hoping Apple to release a new iMac to finally move to a bigger display. I think I will go with the Mac Mini just because I think it will be better in the long run. Now I will wait to January to see if the Mac Mini M3 is available.
@@JnManuelAG My experience with the M2 Mac mini has been great. I bought the lower of the two chips and it's so much faster than my old 27" iMac. I put 24GB of RAM and a 1TB Drive for options. Generating previews from RAW images loading into Lightroom is many times faster than my previous iMac. No more beach balls on the screen! Good luck!
The problem with 27” iMacs is that the screen is so great I dont want to upgrade… with the mini or studio you aren’t worried as you keep your screen. The 24” is very nice it’s for offices and schools and so on.
I'm was conflicted about the soft color shade. The colors look fine on the back. I was gonna buy blue or green, but I couldn't get past how soft the colors look on the front.
Great video. Yeah, I watched a show with a panel of tech experts and they discussed how the “all-in-one” had passed it heyday. Not just with Apple, but PC users are also not buying all in ones as much either. Apple listened to complaints about tying the display to the computer and decided for the Pro user they would offer separate displays and computers.
Very odd things to write.
When the iMac was introduced most computers (obviously excluding laptops!) had a separate PC unit and display. Most still do. Apple still make them too, just as they have for decades! Apple didn’t “listen to complaints” otherwise they would have stopped making an all-in-one, but not only did they not stop selling the all-in-one iMac, with the M1 they designed and introduced a totally new iMac in 7 colours! Those “complaints” couldn’t have carried much weight then … And of course the the iMac Pro was … an all-in-one. And Apple’s Macintosh Pro has always been a “base” unit that required a separate monitor.
Sounds like those “tech experts” are spouting a waste of nonsensical hot air.
@@KiltedGreen that’s the thing about Apple haters, they respond to the voices in their heads. MY comment was about Apple not releasing a larger, 27-32 inch Pro iMac. The smaller, colorful iMac is considered a consumer or small office device. SINCE the release of the last iMac Pro, purchases of all-in-one devices have slowly declined. MANY TH-camrs and commentators were very vocal in their criticisms of the iiMac Pro display’s inability to work without the attached computer. Sorry you missed it. The overall decline of the all-in-one’s popularity and Apple’s pro users demand for something more flexible is why Apple is now directing questions about a larger Pro iMac to Apple Pro Display XDR and Studio Displays combination with Mac Studio or Mini.
Look. There is only one reason they are not going to provide this "all in one" is because it was actually "all in one"...
It was so good for so many people that it basically cannibalised its own market. The iMac dominated not only in education (where I still use our fleet of 2011 iMac 21" machines in the classroom) but I worked as a System Engineer at a Tokyo cosmetics company and every employee had one (either 21 or 27") on their desks. Sales, Product Design, Marketing, Advertising, Financials and even the boss.
That one single computer (in various configurations) covered everything which is no longer good enough for Apple's bottom line. They are pushing profit per product and thus why have an iMac when they can sell you just a screen for the same price THEN push a Studio on you.
Now, to get the 2011 equivalent mid range "generic" experience, you need to buy TWO products, not one.
This is the Mac for schools, businesses and the average home user who doesn't need a laptop. It will never be anything special again since the Studio and Mini exist for people who don't want to throw the whole computer away when it's time to upgrade. Simple.
the present silicon iMacs are perfect for education institute and post secondary, they'll likely be purchase in bulk
Don't forget it's the computer for kids, teenagers, schools and seniors. Add storefronts, first time mac users who want to "dip a toe at decent price point" and the family (kitchen) use cases and I think it'll be just fine in this new niche.
I'm a former maxed out 27" iMac guy now running a Mac Studio for my daily and occasional A/V pro use. I got the memo, I'm glad you did as well, Greg.
Well, I'm a senior and I use a 27" iMac with extra memory. If I fit the "senior" model then I should be eager (maybe) to ditch the 27" and go for an colourful and super-thin M3 iMac. Hmm, not so sure. My Intel iMac is doing well enough for me not to want to throw it out of the nearest window. I'm going to wait and see what Apple come up with in the next 12 months or so as I love the power of a Mac Studio and would love it even more with an M3 processor beating away inside it. Agree with Greg that an iMac with more grunt would be awesome.
With 16GB or RAM and 512GB of storage it’s too expensive for the use cases you mentioned, and it’s not powerful enough for its cost.
@@meeluanistyn1644 You're not a "senior" as I describe it (casual user who lived most of their life without a computer as an integral part of their life), your an old person who is also into tech.
Big difference.
@@robertp457 Unless you are editing videos, this iMac is plenty powerful for most everything people do.
@@robertp457 You over estimate the needs, technological and understanding of consumer.
Many people want the computer with the Apple logo on it.
Don't confuse your use case and economic situation with that of many, many others.
This is going to be a hot take but the iMac Pro and even the 27 inch iMac are intended to be replaced with the Mac Studio and this is a good thing. The big drawback of the iMacs are if your screen gets messed up it's very expensive to replace and its tightly integrated with the system. The Mac Studio is basically Apple finally figuring out a Pro workstation correctly and the Mac Pro is a niche product aimed at people that actually have cards that require expandability.
But, the M3 models still don't have much of a reason to upgrade.
All they needed to do, was put in a surface charge unit in the base of the stand. Store the mouse on top of the monitor stand and it surface charges. Would have been perfect !
that is very unApple like in terms of visually minimal design
A great idea! But, I agree with @kidcal.
@@kidcal so just turn the mouse upside down with a plug in cord ? That’s crazy. Ok, then magnetize the mouse and hang it on the back of the monitor to surface charge.
@@GreyGhost-r4z Not saying the current one is not a bad design....for sure Apple needs to redesign the mouse. Apple wont ever put the base of the unit as a charger as to get wires from the iMac down to the stand is quite impossible. thats all I am replying to from the comment. If they ever do a wireless charging Mouse then you wont need a stand on the imac to charge (WHICH IT WILL BE VERY UNAPPLE LIKE), they will just ask you to use the current wireless charger they have.
I'd agree, and that'd be great if it also did a phone. But the mouse? Really, it needs a charge SO rarely, that having a charging-rest-spot is, while not a bad idea, just not necessary. I'd argue the magic mouse isn't necessary. Get the incredibly good trackpad, and use some other company's much better mice. Logitech will happily sell you one with USB-C and a reasonable compliment of buttons.
It's a shame since it's such a beautiful piece of hardware but yeah, hard to ignore you can actually purchase an equally powerful laptop with little to no compromise thanks to Apple Silicon.
Honestly it’s the reason they put 8gb of ram on everything. It’s to prove the point that everything has the same ram.
Except for the size of the screen. Duh!
@@garrusvakarian8709 only for a lower price point to hook your interest. its a marketing decision, not a tech one.
What a strange comment. They are two different products. Why would I want some small screen on my desk as opposed to a large 24 inch one. Plus I tried a laptop as desktop but wrecked the battery health as it was always plugged in.
The last time I checked there weren't any 24 inch laptops...
As much I like Greg and enjoy his videos, this review of the iMac Is further proof that the tech review side of TH-cam is woefully lacking of diverse perspectives. When I listen to these reviewers talk, they are speaking from their own experiences. And that makes sense. The problem is that they see themselves as both professional, and the everyday user which isn't true. You guys are computer nerds who make content about computers. You definitely work professionally on your devices, but You are not creating 2 hour long movies and need 128 gigs of memory. You are not recording full length albums with 400+ tracks in Logic. You are not in the professional market in the same way that entertainment, computer science, etc are. (I am speaking in the general "you", here not calling you out directly Greg. haha)
At the same time, you are not a consumer. You use more than just social media, Microsoft word, amazon, and email. You say that, "The market for that type of computing just isn't there anymore" while almost in the same breath bringing up an example of your parents. The ideal customer this iMac is made for doesn't even know the word "Apple Silicon". The are probably not even aware apple has come out with a new iMac. They are the family that needs a computer in the kitchen where the teenagers can write their papers. (which cannot be comfortably done on a smartphone) They are the family who's dad is still trying to download all of his old photo albums off of his 2009 MacBook. They buy the base model iMac cause that's what they have always done and will do forever. They don't want to shop, they don't want to second guess or check out options. They just show up, put the money on the barrel and walk out the door.
Not to mention, apple is going to sell these things by the tens of thousands to universities and public schools. Are they expensive? Yes, but they have been doing Business to Business pricing for decades and know how to do it.
I have to stop talking here or I will be here all day, but I think this is something that a lot of tech reviewers need to start understanding. You and people who are similar to you are not the target audience on everything being made. Once again, I hope I haven't stepped on any toes who hurt your feelings, you are a great reviewer and I have enjoyed your content or a long time, but this is a problem I have seen with tech reviews at large.
I 100% agree with you, the iMac is more than enough computer for any normal consumer, but I think you missed my point about the entire idea of the family computer being a thing of the past.
Yes, Apple will still sell more iMacs than any other PC all-in-one, but the influence this product once had isn’t as great as it used to be, and it’s role as propping up power users is also over. I think that’s an interesting discussion to have, rather than me rehashing my M1 iMac review, because the M3 is more of that just faster - which a normal consumer doesn’t even need right now lol.
@@GregsGadgets that’s fair, and maybe I am wrong, but I don’t think it is a thing of the past. I think it is just something that isn’t marketed towards us. Haha (Tech nerds who make and watch tech reviews on the internet.)
I know my boomer parents still use a shared family computer. My friends who have kids still have family computers. Hell, I even know a handful of vanlifers who use the m1 iMac in their campers because they can use it as a television as well.
We don’t talk about them in this space, because they are not usually the consumers/creators of this type of content.
You can’t talk about the voices that you can’t hear you know?
I will own up and say there is no way you could make a video that covers everyone’s needs and intended use cases. That would be impossible. In addition, I will also own up that the market for in home computing is smaller today than it was probably even 10 years ago.
But I think my point is, there are huge swatches of tech buyers who are not properly accounted for in these discussions because their voices haven’t really been present.
Am I making any more sense? Haha
@@GregsGadgets No one other than you tubers have ever said it was a "family computer"
I enjoyed your video. The new iMac is a great all-in-one computer, and I’m very happy with mine. I think the best configuration to get is the one with 16GB of RAM and a 512GB SSD. It’s not cheap at $1899 (I got mine for less), but it’s a great computer for the money. It’s a lot more powerful than most think. I can even run new games on it at 1920X1080. I think it’s the computer that all but the most demanding users will be satisfied with. I would like a 27-inch screen, but I don’t think Apple wants to make a larger iMac because it would compete with its studio display.
I know a few men, myself included, all like the bold colours, but who are absolutely put off by the pastels on the front of the machine. I am not buying bold red or blue machine with a pink or baby blue front and accessories.
I can use my M1 on my couch, with a monitor arm (all inclusive). Most of the AIO's using a PC are like 25% the speed and a comparable monitor + ram + storage is going to jack up the price to about 1.25-2.50x the cost. having a mac mini try to do this will leave you with a bunch of cables and a box you have to contend with. Not even a comparison.
The M3 is roughly equivalent to the base model M1 Pro in terms of performance and faster in some ways. As a “cheap” computer for students to do their homework and edit the occasional video, I think it ticks a lot of boxes. My biggest gripe with Apples latest releases is the fact that the M3 now comes in the base model 14” MacBook Pro which means if you want the M3 Pro you have to spend a lot more. I have the M1 Pro 14” and I’m not ready to upgrade but I’m watching the prices go up and thinking that I might be keeping my MacBook Pro for a good few years because I don’t want to spend over $4000 NZD to get the base spec M4 Pro or M5 Pro.
Apple is crazy expensive in NZ, and on top of that your cost of living is high, you guys are poor, and your currency is worthless....And yes the m1 pro is still absolutely amazing!
@@jeromederouette2922 I dunno man, I think you’re blowing it way out of proportion, not to mention you’re kinda rude. The M3 Pro 14” MacBook Pro starts at $1999 USD without tax. If you convert that to NZD it’s $3288 NZD. Apple is selling them for $3999 including 15% GST (because in NZ every price is shown including tax, the way it should be) so if you remove tax from the $3999 price it comes down to $3477 so it’s $189 more expensive. That’s like 5.7% so yeah, not exactly “crazy expensive” as you claim. Also if you ever come to NZ you might be able to educate yourself as to how amazing this “poor”, “worthless” country actually is.
@@The.JZA. Don't really understand these Yankees. They think every country they haven't heard that much is poor. I'm from Finland and even I know that NZ is quite rich like Nordic countries in Europe. Pretty similar lifestyle, economy and beautiful nature (these are quite different but both are beautiful).
@@MultiJejjeit is poor compared to the US. So is finland sorry to tell you
@@hj4569 we've the best education, best health care and index tells Finland is the happiest country in the world year after year lol. You have huge problems with health care, education, poverty, homeless people + your sick culture wars diviting your country. We have poor people also yeah but we've strong welfare programs like all western European countries.
We've like few hundred (yes tou read this right) homeless people - and it's because they have decited to be homeless. These people would get apartment right away if they wanted.
May I ask what's your countrys situation with these issues and homeless people?
Btw. Last time checked the US was like 27 trillion in depth and China has given most of that. :)
That intro was CLEAN, well done Greg!!
Writing this from iMac 2017 4k Retina. Am I the only one who think that the old desing is really unbeatable. Great design with good 4-6 core intel cpu with dedicated graphics awesome speakers and AMAZING display and I'm lovin it.
Greg,
The problem with the iMac is this: the screen stays USABLE for many years, but the computer inside becomes OBSOLETE.
My friend has the old iMac 27 and he says that he would love to SWAP the „computer part” and leave the rest intact. But he CANNOT.
Mac Mini/ Mac Studio is a better LONG TERM route, because it allows you to upgrade the „computer part” in the meantime…
There is actually a third party kit that allows you to convert your obsolete iMac into just a display. It requires some technical skills and knowhow, but it is very doable.
@@lornetc I know that some people can do it… but many (who aren’t so handy) don’t want to risk DAMAGING their device.
Excellent commentary about the state of the 2023 iMac M3 etc. Apple clearly is pushing me to the desktop Mac mini, Mini Pro or Mac Studio M2 Max.
Thanks!
if you’ve got plenty cash
It generates a lot less ewaste since monitors can be used for just about forever. While silicon gets outdated in 5-10 years at best.
I never quite liked the idea of all in ones outside from specific design requirements such as no cables leading down under the table etc.
Idk. I feel Greg and many other tech nerds are hung up on specs. Even the M1 is still fast enough for video editing. The strongest advantage for the iMac is the all in one nature. Not having a lot of cables and stuff on the desk which is also full of drawing pads, brushes, paint and other stuff
I really don’t get your rant here! The iMac is a great computer for the vast majority of people. If you need something faster, get the Mac Studio… and having the M3 Max inside an all-in-one Mac isn’t necessary. The separate display means it lasts so much longer than having a device that will be obsolete without getting software updates. Just get what suits you and don’t ruin it for everyone else. Geez.
Am a little miffed that Apple did not state any intentions on updating the 27” iMac right when the M1 came out. Would have been great to know that in advance.
Same here.
@@samueljweston Prediction. In 2028 there will be a Mac Mini with M8 cpu and 27" screens.
I'm about to buy the iMac M3 with orange as well. I like the pink with red on the back, but pink in the front, no way. So the closest thing possible is orange than.
Rather arrogant of Greg to claim (in the title "The M3 iMac Isn't for me (or you...)") that the M3 iMac is not for me. It very well be the computer I buy, as it appears to be exactly what I need.
For my part, after waiting for a iMac 27" successor, I moved on and bought a Mac mini M2 Pro and a Asus ProArt 27" 4k display. After using it for a few weeks now I prefer the idea of a separate computer and display. Usually the display lasts way longer then a computer.
Yeah , good display last a lot , and yuo can seell it if yuo want and keeo the mac
The problem with the iMac with a 5K screen is that the screen is still a wonderful device, but the internals are outdated. So for the professional market they create very nice monitors and have separate computing devices, which can more easily be upgraded (traded in for newer ones). I think Apple wants professionals to more quickly upgrade their system (for example M1 max to M3 max), which is more easy when there is not a built-in monitor to trade in.
The Studio Display was outdated before it was released.
I was ecstatic when my M3 iMac arrived a couple of weeks ago, not because of it’s performance, not because of its size, not because of its design - all of which is, I can’t believe I’m saying this, adequate. The ONLY reason I bought the M3 iMac is because Apple left me in the dust with the BEST iMac they’ve ever made, the 27” 5K iMac.
Upgrades in the Mac OS since then have ignored the old iMac because of the Intel chip and that’s understandable but it didn’t have to happen that way. Apple brought out the iMac Pro, which I would have bought had it not been prohibitively expensive and then after that………nothing…….I was forced to ‘upgrade’ and DOWNGRADE at the same time and that has NEVER happened to me with regard to Apple and their products.
This M3 iMac has lost its Gravitas, its PRESENCE on my desktop. It’s now a utilitarian window on the world and not as enjoyable to watch all the movies and videos on, stretched out in my comfy chair - now I have to nose up to a smaller screen and the whole experience now, somehow seems ‘smaller’ as well.
I’m not bailing on Apple but it sure feels like Apple just bailed on me. I’ll hold out hope that they still see their computing works of art as just that, not ‘workstations’ but beautiful pieces of art that grace a desktop, open ones eyes, command their space with gravitas and elegance and amaze us with their performance as well.
Thank you for posting this!! This is exactly how I feel… it’s corporate greed and ignorance… and possibly not understanding the financial pressures of micro businesses… and I do prefer a sleek all-in-one solution… shame on you Apple!! 🍌😍🍌
Apple could drastically increase sales by offering a 27-inch display, a midnight or space gray color (w/ matching accessories), black bezels, and/or an optional height adjustable stand. They refuse to do so because it'd undermine MacBook Pro, Mac Studio, and Apple Studio Display sales.
All of this wouldn't matter if the 27" Apple Studio Display was reasonably priced, but at a base of $1600, it's simply unjustifiable for the average consumer especially for those buying a MacBook under $1200.
Apple's sales team has it all calculated out and that's to leave the current iMac as "non-Pro" as possible.
I bought the Green iMac 24" and wanted to love it so much, but alas I had to let it go. In way i still love it and miss it. It truly is a little gem, beautiful in every angle and the 4.5k retina screen is wow! But I could not get over how small it is. I was coming from a ultra-wide 43" Acer 1080p monitor and felt sure the iMacs retina screen was gonna wow me so much i would not care it was only 24". But it felt so cramped, had to change how i worked and managed my windows. So i called it quits, I went ahead and bought the 38" LG Wide monitor 21:10 ratio which comes out to be close to 2k resolution and i'm much happier. It's an upgrade resolution from my 1080p ultra-wide and bigger wider then the 24" iMac. (LG Monitor 38" 38WN95C-W and 43" Acer EI431CR Pbmiiipx)
Nice take on the iMac, just don’t agree that there is no such thing as a ‘family’ computer. I’m looking for a successor to my 27’ 2013 iMac. It does not need to be really powerful it just needs to be able to handle most tasks and be able to store all my (big and old) data (so I’m not relying solely on iCloud).
I think that we also tend to think we need more speed than actually needed…
Only drawback for me is that I like a bigger screen… a 27’ would have been really nice. But looking at all options, buying a Mac mini and adding an ugly PC screen with bad scaling or going overboard and buying the 27’ 5k screen… maybe I’ll just go for a mildly upgraded iMac
Yeah, people seem to forget or not know, that this is a home consumer computer, and always has been.
I loved when the iMac turned off as soon as you were almost done with the video. I almost thought you set it that way. There was no need to turn it back on. The back looks better that the Front
A Mac Mini and a big screen TV are much cheaper and more powerful for less money. iMacs are still useful for schools/students and office desks. I am always amazed that so many Apple Pros seem to expect Pro performance from entry level computers. If you need a truck buy a truck, don't gripe about your pickup not being able to haul 50 tons of hay.
Mac Studio seems to be the one for pro's. Mac Pro really is geared as a Server these days.
In a production house, the desktop still reigns supreme. Because laptops have a dual use as a personal and a work computer, containing work to a laptop becomes difficult. Avid Nexis|Edge allows all of the work to be done in the cloud. In that case even a iPad would work. However in edit suites desktops rule. Too bad about the iMac Pro but in truth, we use larger monitors running usually 1080 on the edit monitors and then 4k or 6k on the production monitors. The reason to run 1080 on the edit monitors with say the Mac Studio or Mac Pro is because Apple has neglected to add the ability to truly enlarge typeface, icons and menus for monitors that sit 12-18 inches away. This ability is available in Windows. Watch people working with iMacs. They tend to lean forward or have the iMac right in their face. 12-18 inches away produces much less eye strain.
I’ve been waiting for them to release a Pro iMac for years, I thought this would be the year they make it but NO… They want us to buy a Mac Studio & a Display. I just want the Max/Pro chip inside this form factor I don’t get why they aren’t doing that… I’ve been looking at whether this M3 iMac will be good for Final Cut and I’m not sure.
I would gladly forgive the lightning cable if I could use it for a wired BACKLIT keyboard. No 27" is a bad move Apple.
I just bought the Imac with the M3 chip. I agree with you, great looking but I won't be doing much work on it. It's for the family to watch videos. I used to have a 27-inch with 24 gigs but now it's 24-inches with 8 gigs. I'll work on my M# laptop with 36 gigs.
It’s great and doesn’t take up too much space on my desk. Very easy to move around.
3:08 Apple did not just switch M1 chip for M3 chip. They changed wifi 5 to wifi 6e. They changed bluetooth 5 to 5bluetooth 5.3
You're right, technically those are tied to the M3 chip, so every M3 Mac is going to get those benefits but if you break it down it does come with those advancements as well.
Thanks for being honest. A lot of reviewers will not keep it real.
I would say you’re right. I use my phone and iPad for everything and don’t really even keep up with the Mac stuff that much. There’s probably a lot of people like me that don’t need anything else.
Thank you for confirming the base spec is single chip! Been trying to get that answer everywhere. Great approach to the product.
The issue IMO is still there really isn't a good entry level 27" replacement. For years Apple sold a $1799 27" 5K iMac. Now in order to get that same screen with Apple Silicon the best you can do is the Apple Studio Display ($1599) with a Mac mini ($599) and you are at $2198 and still need to add a keyboard and mouse. IF the ASD wasn't so over-engineered and was say $1099 or $999 it really wouldn't be as much as an issue.
You deserve more upvotes. You've nailed it. Complain about the overpriced / over-complicated Studio Display, not the 24" iMac that was NEVER meant to compete with the 27" iMacs, or be anywhere near people who don't think 24" is a Nice Big Display.
It's misdirected anger to complain about the M3 iMac. It's not a "cut down 27" version. Your new 27" iMac is the studio display + mini, and you're totally right that the new studio display is about $500 too much for that to not seem like a kick in the shins. Not that going from 1TB to 2TB for $400 felt great, either, so, yeah, Apple pricing kind of stinks unless you want the baseline, or just a click or two up. (16GB/512GB is fine)
Can't you just keep the keyboard and mouse you already have? You don't start over.
@@zonk1477 Typically when you sell your older iMac you include the mouse/trackpad and keyboard too.
@@johnwagner9257 Stores just sell the computer they don't sell it with a mouse and keyboard.
Mine pink one is on the way... taking a while because I beefed it up a bit. I think the lightning plug is cool because I can charge my old iPhone 12 and Apple pencil at my desk
I'm still rocking two 27" Intel iMacs at the house and I just can't see any reason to downgrade to the new 24" M1-M3 iMac. When I do upgrade, it will be to a Mac Mini M series and convert the old Intel iMacs to a pair 27" displays. I know I'm the odd ball in the crowd who likes to do weird shit to computers that most people wouldn't and shouldn't do.
Fabulous Post....... I have an M1 and I adore it. Am I a Pro? Nope.....Just a "Basic User". My one Gripe as a dedicated Apple Guy is that I pay $15 a month for Apple One......and as the months go by and become Years....that becomes substantial. Add Apple TV and the other ways that my beloved 🍎 Air, iPhone and iMac excel at making more $$$ and it bugs me a bit. Enuff to leave Apple? That'll never happen..... but you nailed some great points. Thanks Greg
if apple cut the price in half, imac still make sense.
Well, I’ve been looking at the new iMacs for a little while now, and after watching this video, I’m buying an m3 iMac. They’re gorgeous, powerful computers, and it’ll work well for me. I don’t see what the big deal is about the lightning mouse … to me that issue isn’t an issue … much ado about nothing … a petty complaint. I’ve already got an m2 mini, and I use that for video and photo projects, and the m3 iMac is perfect for everything else.
They’re beautiful machines. Ive always intended to work on cars and you can tell he applied that same level of detail and design
You think one needs to spec the M3 iMac out to 24GB of RAM in order to do photo editing and video editing? Seriously? A couple of questions: do you realize what that RAM upgrade from Apple would COST? Secondly; have you tried doing the editing you want to do with 16GB of RAM? What is it you need 24GB of RAM for?
We lost the iMac Pro, but we gained the Studio. Much prefer the Studio honestly as I'm not sure having a screen locked to the computer is wise (or environmental). Also the new iMac looks really goofy to me. The chin should be half the size...
I did in fact return my 14 inch M3 MacBook Pro after four hours in my care, because it reminded me too much of my M1 iPad Pro And have purchased a Studio and a Mac Studio desktop. This will be probably sitting next to my 27 inch iMac in which I have already specked out with an additional 64 megs of ram that I was personally able to install because the 27 inch iMac was customizable , that way shocking right they used to do that..
Until the day, when the iMac is transformed back into its preferred size of 27 inches or the equivalent of the Studio Display, I will be sticking with the max studio desktop until further notice. My iPhone is in fact my computer it has become powerful enough the newest iPhone 15 pro max with my moment by moment full driver when not at my desk ❤. Thanks Greg !
Still using our 2019 27" iMac. We kept our first iMac from 2008 to 2011 - 2019, 8 years. So we'll keep our current iMAC til 2027 or longer. Maybe by then, there will be something compelling to trade up to. We are 72 and our iMAC does EVERYTHING we want in a PC.
A friend with a couple of older 27-in iMacs (2012 and 2015) and recently am M1 MacBook Air bought while travelling confessed that only his Air was usable with modern apps. So he considered replacing his wife's 2015 27-in with a superseded M1 iMac but ultimately ordered an 8 GB memory one with 1 TB of storage. In his late 70s, he sees this as the last compute he'll get. He has a 28-in 4k monitor to use with his MacBook Air.
It's the right one for me, will be my first iMac. Going to replace my PC thats crapped it self after all theses years. I do vid editing for personal family fun with Capcut on the last of the intel MacBook pro's. This M3 iMac will smash that in.
I'm gonna hold on to my 2020 27 inch until Appel comes out with a new one.
The accessories at still lightening because they made too many at some point. Tim Cook is a inventory and supply kind of guy so he's driven by numbers...
You mean most content creators. That is why you're looking at it like you are. Family computer, most are browsing the web, banking/billpay, some investing, homework, email, sharing photos & some video on Facebook, Twatter &, instagram. Serious investors are going multi-screen. Apple is all about revenue! Starting price looks attractive until you add more storage , memory, etc. then, BANG !!! That is what the Lightning cable is all about. Either they had a bunch left over (plus the cost of the equipment that produces it vs return revenue or another cable needed. Mini, Studio, Macbook at home, = more accessories. Monitor (or two, or), Trackpad & Mouse, Keyboard. And if you're a content creator, kool looking lighting, etc.
PS; You can't give up that Orange iMac, it matches you're Orange Apple Watch Band!
Think I'll hold on to my 2019 5K 27" iMac. 3.6 GHz 8-Core i9, 64 GB 2667 MHz DDR4. I don't do serious Video or gaming, and the larger 5K Retina screen is so nice. Thanks for the review!
I really feel that you've made this video just to make another video. I totally disagree with almost all your statements about the iMac as a machine and It's usage. I also plan to use this video for ambient sound in cases I need to hear something in the background. Do you care? No, I know
M3 2TB 24 GB. It's fine. Really. I wish it was 27" - but it is fine.
A very good explanation of what the iMac is now. It is a great Computer for office use or on a shop counter. In our Shop we use an iPad, though. Because I think in iMac, despite looking really great would create a big barrier between u and your customer.
So I have an other story for you. As I came to Apple, I really loved the iMac Design, but I had that oppinion, that the perfect PC has to be seperated from the Display. I used to keep the Display much longer that my PCs. But there was no compelling Option, these days. So I was made to fell in love to the iMac, by Apple. I bought several, including the last 27“ iMac, and I always wanted an M based one, which never came. And I really was sad about it. Until I one thought came to my mind, that once I had that weired oppinion, that the perfect PC has to be seperated from the Display, that has been driven out of my mind by Apple.
Long story short. I bought a Mac Studio and 2 Studio Displays and i‘m complete happy with the transition, Apple made.
I have an M1 iMac (yellow) and utterly love it to death. I am loyal iMac fan (have been using them since 2006) and was legit excited for the M3 after it became super obvious the iMac was not getting an M2 chip.
Then I basically saw it was a guts upgrade, which is great, BUT the M3 really really feels like a, "mid-generation" upgrade.
I don't know if Apple will skip M4 on the iMac (rumours right now are saying they will not), but I am going to upgrade to the next iMac, whether it be M4 or M5 entirely because of the AI stuff they have been pushing since the iPad M4.
I have an Intel 27 inch iMac loader with 40GB of RAM and I still love it. Works great. Would I buy a new 27 inch iMac ? Yes, but Apple does not make one yet. I'm not interested in the Mac Studio etc... I'm not buying that. I have all the other Apple stuff but Mac Studio, no thank you...
The only redesign should be mouse and keyboard. Both should be usb-c and mouse recharge port should have been moved. The keyboard should now be backlit. It was a good opportunity to redesign them and not doing so is a real head scratcher and looks lazy by apple.
We finally got the "headless" Mac that many of us wanted. And Apple is definitely guiding the users who want to make a major investment in a powerful computer away from the all-in-one set up. In the long run, this is good because if you buy a good screen you can use it over a few generations of computers. A "pro" like yourself should (and obviously has) move to a desktop that you can upgrade every few years, while getting 10 years or more out of your screen.
Exactly and you would have already invested in a monitor arm and mounted the monitors.
Mac studio is my next stop. I always wanted an imac when I was in high school but back then I needed a laptop. Now that I work from home, there is no fitting imac model anymore. Its kinda sad but I’mma go with a mac studio to fit my dual studio display set up
I have the 2017 27inch iMac with 32GB memory and 8GB GPU and 3 terabyte superdrive that still works great and does everything I need. I do not intend to downgrade to a 24 inch screen.
If I got a MAC Mini I would get a 27 or 30 inch 4k monitor from Dell for around $400 to $500. My first Apple computer was an Apple IIC bought in 1984, it had 128k of RAM with a 9 inch green screen flat panel display and cost me $1700 including a printer. Have always used Apple computers, have 3 iPads, 2 iPhones, 3iPods and Apple TV. Just like the way they all work together and if I ever need to call Apple support I get someone in the US that knows how to solve my problem.
I loved my old 2011 iMac. After 10 years it just got too slow and had to replace it with an M1 air as there was no new desktop at that time. As much as I’d love to go back a desktop, the way forward seems to be a MacBook Pro with a good monitor for the best of both worlds.
1. Lightning is redundant.
2. Mouse needs a complete ergonomic overhaul.
3. Panel below screen still has the off colour look on some models, not intentionally, just bad design.
4. SD card reader should still be an available option.
5. Offering 8gb of ram as standard is laughable!
6. 512gb of storage on higher tier is an insult, should be at least 1tb now.
I could go on but honestly Apple has dropped the ball so much recently I’d be here all day!🤦♂️🤡
Remember the days when Mac devices were connected with a SCSI connector and if you didn't have a terminator attached it could fry the hard drive? Connector technologies have come so far since then.
Very interesting review! Thanks. I use a first generation 16GB RAM M1 Mac mini as my primary work station at home in my living room. Until I recently retired, I had a first generation 27” iMac that was 12 years old and it still works fantastic! I miss that iMac. My Mac mini at home is connected to a high res Dell display and it’s okay, but I am going to use it in a closet for a file server. I ordered a blue M3 iMac with extra ports and 24GB RAM with 1TB SSD to be delivered on Dec. 11. It will be fine for my needs. My Mac mini is constrained by RAM and ports, for use with a lot of email and photo editing.
I got the same thing, but winced and paid the $400 extra for 2TB, which will mostly hold media library stuff I really should have moved to a hard drive. I console myself that it also has a longer life in terms of TB written (something else will fail before the 1TB has a problem with that)
The 24GB is helpful with World of Warcraft, I think. 8GB of RAM is grabbed by the game, it's gotta want 4GB or more for the GPUs, leaving 4 or less for the OS, web browser, and whatever else, on a 16GB. That $200 didn't bother me too much.
So what do you think we'll get first: M3 Mac Studio's, or M3 iMac Pros?
I have the 2011 iMac and then a newer skinner iMac in 2016. The Aluminum looks great and sturdy. Not too interested in the colorful M1 iMac or the M3 iMac especially they only have the 24 inch. They need to bring back the aluminum gray iMac and a bigger screen version. Maybe they do this so it does not cannibalize their Mac Studio and the iMac Pro. So maybe a more powerful iMac Pro coming?
6:50 "Apple isn't making the iMac for Pro users anymore" - dude, the M3 iMac was never intended for Pro users. No idea where you got that idea from. I just bought an M3 iMac, I'm not a Pro user and I knew exactly what I was buying. It does exactly what I need it to do.
I had the 27inch iMac for a decade, loved it. I tried the M1 iMac, but I paired it with the M1 Max 16inch Pro. I recently sold my iMac and bought the Mac Studio with two studio displays. It’s more expensive but damn, that thing is sweet. And when it gets old I’ll just swap out the Mac Studio.
how did you sell the iMac? currently thinking of doing the same but seems like a hassle
@@alexk1418 It is a hassle. I lucked out my friend wanted it.
It’s funny that my first Mac was a mini. It didn’t last too long due to lack of memory. I jumped to a 21 in iMac but I found I needed a bigger monitor and went the 27 in. I was in love with it for a long time. I ended up working from home during Covid and found my poor iMac wasn’t cutting it anymore. Because the 27 in wasn’t updated and mine was too old to use as a monitor I ended up with a Mac Studio. I feel I went full circle, however, my Mac Studio is a beast compared to my old mini. I can open large client files without issues. I have to admit the iMac is no longer really for the pros but I do miss mine. I don’t color correct so an expensive monitor wasn’t needed. Thankfully I can use my current extended keyboard and mouse.
I guess I don't see any issues with it cuz I don't make movies or edit videos for like a TH-cam channel or a social media like how an influencer does, so I love mine. It does what it needs to do for what I need it for. The purple is what I got and I love it.