T-FLIGHT HOTAS 4 - How to stop the dreaded YAW DRIFT ( jitter ) on your new flight stick
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.พ. 2021
- The video shows how to 'prevent' a working joystick from going faulty.
If yours is drifting, you need to replace the potentiometer, and also apply the fix from this video!
I bought my replacement potentiometers from mouser electronics (link below) - the shipping was quite expensive so i bought a pack of 20 to make it worthwhile.
These work for the yaw, pitch, roll, and strafe axes. Works for the throttle too but the range is slightly incorrect so you will be at +100% throttle when the lever is at the ~75% position.
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From the bottom of my Elite Dangerous heart, thank you.
I started to see the drift in FA OFF on my speedy Imperial Courier.
Viper MK IV Pilot here, trying to stop this awful drift before it gets bad, can barely fsd at all
Thanks for this! I put about 600 hours into my HOTAS 4 with ED, and then it went into storage for about 2 years due to life changes. I recently got it back out once Star Wars Squadrons went free on Epic, and the yaw was just starting to act up. Hopefully I caught it in time with this fix, and after doing it, it seems to have stopped the yaw from spazzing out. Guess time will tell if I'll need to put a new pot in it, but so far so good after an hour or so in Squadrons.
Mine may be a newer model....? It had an extra piece inside that looks like the manufacturer attempted a fix.
Mine started to get jitter after more than 800 hours of use (bought it used, so no idea of the real total.) When I took it apart to add the tape, a semicircular piece of plastic with two arms fell out. Finally figured out it belongs wedged between the two halves of the handle near the base, and the semicircle bit curls around the post that we put the tape on.
Added the tape as well (used plumber's tape, skipped the grease) and the jitter is gone. hopefully it keeps trucking along for a long time to come.
Thank you, your video saved my HOTAS 4.
Thanks for the video. I fixed mine by dipping the potentiometer in white spirit and giving it a good twist, i could feel it becoming smoother as i did that. Works fine now 👍This video inspired me to fix it and the comments below also helped.
I was having the same issue with my Hotas and just opened inserted the potentiometer into isopropil alchohol and now it works great!
Thank you so much for the tip. My Z Yaw axis has been jittering for months and I had to create a huge deadzone. My method was similar to yours but I took the joystick apart, lifted the potentiometer out, cleaned it with a little IPA (Iso Propyl Alcohol) and then twisted it from min to max a few times. So far, so good!
That was the first method i tried about a year ago, it will work for a good while if you also implement the tape to stop the unwanted side to side forces on the pot!
Did you have the issue again
@@WorldHayes-VR it seems to be behaving itself so far. I imagine I'll have to repeat this every few years.
Has it been drifting again?
@@Ac-sv6te fine so far!
Try using vulc tape, electrical tape or some type of reinforced tape.
Another tip, is perhaps using J.B.Weld on the white plastic part and use a dremel to get the right proportions.
I had this stick a long time before I got my hands on the T1600M setup..
Thanks a lot ! I had beed dealing with jitter on the rudder for 1 years or so til I found your posting ! so happy now.
U welcome dude glad you tried it, happy flying
Did you have the issue again
Same question
You just saved my weekend, dude. You can be my wingman anytime!
Brilliant mate! I don't have the cycling grease but I do have some pipe thread tape that works (so far anyway). Another Elite Dangerous player that owes you many thanks!
Has this prevented the drift permanently?
Did this when I resoldered the wires, used NyoGel 767a Synthetic Hydrocarbon Dampening Grease for the lubrication (have some from using on the joystick "ball" and the warthog). Great fix just wish the ps4 supported my higher end flight sticks. Great video!
Thanks appreciate the comment! Its a simple root cause with a pain in the ass effect
Don't suppose you have a guide on accessing and replacing the spring for the twist resistance?
Mine snapped after 12 years unfaltering service sadly.
You’re the man.
Thx, this video save my FS :)
Glad to help!
bro thank you so much, no other video I found even mentioned this piece might be getting damaged, sadly I may need to replace mine lol
If you have a soldering iron and some patience it's pretty easy to replace the potentiometer if it's drifting too much. Then if you do this fix the new pot will last wayyyyyy longer.
@@Tayls-tn2ux unfortunately I don't have those haha
Good show
good video. to the point and effective
Thanks!
@@Tayls-tn2ux I do have a follow-up question. I followed the guide and fixed my jitter thank God but well disassembling joystick a piece fell out and I don’t know where it goes. Joystick seems to work fine but I feel like this piece affects the movement somehow. It’s a black piece of plastic with one straight bitAttached to a plastic half circle. I believe it fits somewhere in the left half of the hand grip near the spring somehow. Do you have this piece/do you know what it is.? Thanks again!
@@everythingaroundyou Might be too late, but what you're referring to is the twist lock mechanism. If you look at the bottom right of the stick, nearby to the bottom-most 2 screws, you'll note a third open hole just above them. It slots in there (from the inside of course) with the C shaped part set against the white stick. You can see a thin slit cut into it where you would turn it externally (likely with a flathead screwdriver) to activate the locking mechanism.
Boa noite amigo! Me fala uma coisa, o que achou desse modelo? Eu quero para simular o Fligth Simulator! Abraço!!
It works, I try it in mine and like magic....works...
Great news dude, happy flying
Did u have the issue again?
Has it prevented the drifting permanently?
Kinda scared to void a warranty, can I still do this when it starts acting up?
Would youbknow what i would need to do to fis roll drift? Im having thd trouble while playing war thunder
do you use this joystick with the DCS combat flight simulator ? I ask because i can't program my buttons but i do have joystick and thrust lever.
I dont play dcs, however i do play war thunder using it, it works well (once set up properly!)
Is there anyway to either mechanically disable the Yaw function on the stick or maybe in some software setting? I really don't need it because I have pedals, but I'm def having stuttering Yaw issues probably related to this that are just making my pitch and roll functions unbearable.
I would guess that you could change the setting in the game - so maybe reduce the sensitivity to 0 or something. It is probably better than mechanically disabling the potentiometer!
When I took mine apart, the solder on the 2 wires just came off. Really thing solder on mine unfortunately.
Thank you for the video
I’m thinking of buying this for elite dangerous
Is the “drift” issue common among timst of T.Flight Hotas 4’s?
How long should I expect it to work properly till it starts acting up?
Hi, it seems to be fairly common yes - im a member of a lot of facebook ED groups and this gets mentioned quite regularly.
I believe it is because of the loose fitting handle onto the shaft.
This causes the sensor to wear out much faster than it should.
If you get a new one i definitely recommend this fix so it lasts a long time !
I think it s everytime it start to jitter again ! you should be good for months ! good luck
Did you have the issue again
@@Tayls-tn2uxis your stick still working
@@obiwankenobi- as far as I know! I sold it a while ago in full working order .. migrated over to PC
Asked the guy I sold it to to let me know if anything goes wrong with it .
Is that the pot on top of the white shaft? I’d like to remove mine completely as I use rudder peddles. Also you could use Teflon plumbing tape to do what the clear tape does as well as lubricating as the tape is Teflon.
Teflon tape, really cool idea!
Yes the rudder pot is the one that fits into the top of the white shaft
@@Tayls-tn2ux thanks, removed the pot and problem solved.
Yea, I had some plumbing tape laying around and it has done the trick so far!
has your stick held up? i'm considering removing the pot to safeguard from the jitter since i just got mine
My stick is brand new and already drifting. I got it yesterday and idk what to do
Edit: I unplugged and plugged in my stick and it works perfectly now
I just took mine apart and there is glue everywhere what should I do?
Hi, how did you find the exact potentiometer model ? thank!
Hey! Can't remember clearly, I think I looked on the original ones and there were some numbers and letters on there that I just Googled. Or something !
Mines a constant left or right can't stay straight I'm a pretty decent pilot to ace combat 7 I could fly through a tunnel or ect easy I will try this my self and hope it works I'm on Xbox btw
I have not the time or desire to do all of that..so I'll buy the extended warranty and trade it in. I'll do this until the manufacturer fixes the issue.
I do the same thing! I get the Best Buy warranty and swap it out every 6 months.
after doing this my yaw is very loose. i feel the spring only on the very end of travel. what did
i wrong
Hi, if you watch from 3:55 it shows the spring popping off (i guess this happened on yours!) You need to make sure the spring is split by the white plastic bit on the shaft
@@Tayls-tn2ux yeah i did it the wrong way around xD
Glad you sorted it!
Has this Permanently prevented the drifting?
@@Ac-sv6te yes but got rudder pedals now so i don't use the axis anymore.
I appreciate this video as it's a solid concept, but when I attempted it, I messed up and ruined my flight stick. I'm not too upset really since it was already unplayable with the drift, but I will say it's increadibly frustrating a corporation like Microsoft can't bring a quality flight stick to the table.
Sorry to hear it ruined your flight stick, maybe I should add a disclaimer on the vid of some sort. Did you break a cable or something?
@@Tayls-tn2ux
Yeah, I did. And like I said the drift was bad enough it was almost unusable anyway, so no big loss. But unfortunately I don't really feel like buying another one since they just don't hold up. I'm back to flying with my Xbox controller. Not that I play much anymore anyway. Triple Elite with a lot of fully engineered ships. Not much left to do but keep my fleet carrier that I don't really even use going. xD
That wouldn't be a problem if it was made in Japan & for $ 160 it should not be like that.I have evivator flutter on mine don't know what to do about it
I agree with you ! The problem is ED PS4 players are stuck with the Hotas4 to play the game properly, unless you want to use the DS4. The fix is simple though and my stick still works fine after this fix even after around 4 months 👌
Your elevator flutter might be a similar problem, its possible to clean the potentiometers aswell, that could be worth trying.
@@Tayls-tn2ux I have done the fix for the rudder but I don't know where the part is inside to fix the elevator & my eyesight is not very good now, I don't really want to take it apart again but I turned down the sensitivity in the sim, that seems to help,ty
@@wrongwayfeldman5393 great to hear you did the fix, it really will help that rudder sensor stay working. I dont think the pitch sensor has as much of a problem so i would be surprised if it gets worse 🤞
So not disconnecting from the console when on, positioning in all 8 points then again twisting at all 8 points to discharge any electrical excess charge, reconnect and you're all good again until the excess charge builds up again after a few hours. Quick and easy.
So mine actually broke using this method so I have to replace a whole new one. Which now is 100$
What broke? If you didn't do this it would also break, in the not too distant future..
@@Tayls-tn2ux Wiring snapped off and the trigger was not working anyways.
@@DragonEnterprises I don't recall the step where the video poster instructed you to "snap the wiring off". Sounds like you made a mistake and you're blaming him for it. That wasn't of "the method" you claim broke your stick.
broke my joystick messing with this. fu
How?
So YOU broke your controller. Cool. If you follow the instructions nothing breaks, like mine. Mine is fine, because I followed his instructions.