Damper Tech: GRIP2 vs FIT4 vs RC2 vs GRIP | Fox GRIP2 Upgrade Kit
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2024
- If you have a 2015 or newer Fox 36, or a Marzocchi Bomber Z1 and want better performance and more adjustability you can cheaply and easily upgrade your current fork’s damper for better performance and save some money by doing so. With Fox's GRIP2 damper upgrade kits can easily replace your 2015 and newer Fox 36's FIT4, RC2 or GRIP damper. These are also compatible with the Marzocchi Bomber Z1!
In this video we chat about the differences between the other most common Fox dampers so you can see the differences between how they all work.
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If you have a Fox fork, what damper are you currently runnin'? 🤔
Rc2
Grip2
Dont know. 2018 40 factory and 34 rythm
I have the grip 2, and it feels great but the adjustments are overwhelming. Is the damper the same for every length shock or is there a different length rod for different sizes?
RideMTB_SF I think they are different. For the 34 the damper fits for few sizes. I looked for a upgrade and the damper would fit in 110-130mm travel.
I bought 2nd hand a 2020 Fox 36 Grip 140 mm. It feels like heaven after the RS Reba 90 mm XC fork. This damper interview was fantastic. I think you can not have a bad choice.
The Grip sounded like Morty haha
Wow, what a well put together video🇺🇸
Threw a Grip2 in my F36 performance grip fork on my MT. I watched your Grip 2 setup video, did some experimentation and ended up with an awesome feeling fork! 2 volume spacers, a little less psi and a touch more sag (20-25%) than Fox recommends and tweaked compression and rebound to taste and it's rad!
This is my next upgrade after converting my hubs. I haven't been happy with the Performance Grip. I did add a DSD RUNT and that helped out tremendously. If MT stands for Mega Tower than you might have the DT 370's. There's a conversion video showing how to go to the star ratchet set up of the 350 / 240
@@mattdudester9037 the grip 2 works well if you take the time to set it up properly! I'm enjoying the hell out of mine. The front end has more traction than it ever has and doesn't beat my hands up. I do have a Megatower but have replaced my stock wheels with DT EX511 rims and i9 Hydra hubs 🤙
Great info and freaking hilarious!
I own a RC2 and a brand new Fox 36 Grip. The Grip feels awesome! Super soft, a good mid-stroke feedback - I'm pretty surprised :)
I got rc2 right now and planning to upgrade to something newer, do you think grip 1 is enough or should i spend more on grip 2 ? I dont care about the adjustabilty at all, just the overall performance
@@natandirt The grip1 performs well! 2 friends ride the fork aswell and they are happy. And it is half of a grip2 💰. I do not regret riding such a simple/cheap fork 😜
Great video. Great job..👊
Great vid! 😄👍
Awesome video
Awesome man!
Great video!!!
Great explanation
amazing video bro
i just bought the Grip 2 damper during the black Friday sales from you guys to replace the RC2 on my 18 Fox 36. I will be doing the install after the holidays and I can't wait to see if it's the reason my hands hurt on every ride after numerous setup and cockpit changes it's the only thing left 😅
Won't be disappointed my hands hurt so bad after riding with my rc2 with the grip 2 it feels like your not even going over rocks
This video gave me multiple nightmares. Thanks.
Thanks for information and great entertainment!
One question, can I put also the Fit4 into Marzocchi Z1?
Well done 👍
Y'all the best!
Yeah!! Love the grip damper 😂
lmfao, rc2 made me lol.
Brilliant!
Awesome 👏 👏👏
I've replaced 2015 RC2 with 2020 Grip and the difference is noticeable. Still not comparable with 2018+ forks as they have a larger negative volume chamber. Going to try Vorsprung Luftkappe in a couple of days. Still - if you add the prices of Grip 2 damper, Luftkappe and some fresh SKF seals, you might as well sell the old fork a buy a shiny new one.
If only study information were presented that entertaining as in that video :D
Also i have a question - can i simply exchange the Grip 2 cartridge from my fox 36 27,5" 2019 180mm forks to a 2021 fox 36 with 160mm and its grip cartridge vice versa into the 27,5" ? Or are there several lengths available on the market
i have 2018 fox 36 fit4 damper and will upgrade to a grip2 damper, what socket size do i need to remove the fit 4 and install the grip2? thanks in advance, i learn a lot from your videos 👍🏼
GREAT VIDEO! Is it the same upgradability for the Fox Rythme 34 that come standard with so many Trail MTB?
I L O V E the intro!!
Damn i love ur videos
how did i miss this cinematographic gem so far???
There's some cheap rc2 dampers out there for sale, still a good upgrade especially for the price.
What’s up with the fox 36 rhythm grip?
I read in a thread it’s stiffer thicker stanchions and lowers (but heavier). Is this true? Sounds like the bomber Z1 you just described.
Any info would be appreciated. Thanks
I have a fox 38 GRIP about year 2022, Love this ease of adjustment. Seems to stay more plush longer then my other Grip 2 Fox 36 year 2020. Plus the Grip 2 dials get hard to turn after a while. The GRIP single dial stays soft and really prefer it. Going to buy a second Fox 38 for my second bike so I am researching the different dampers. I was also wondering if you can add the GRIP in place of the FOX 36 Grip 2 fork? I would buy this today...
Is there anything else to be considered for the Fox 34 and damper updates for that fork?
I owned the Grip damper in a fox 34 and I loved it. Moved to a fox 36 with the Fit4 and it is being a nightmare to setup as I want...
The FIT4 is unfortunately just not a very sensitive damper and it makes setup pretty tricky. We would highly recommend switching to the GRIP2 damper as you'll have all around better performance along with more adjustments that can be tuned more accurately. We sell those dampers on our site: thelostco.com/products/2021-fox-36-grip2-damper-upgrade-kit
Is it possible to get a review of the Fox 32 100mm gravel shocks please?
Good info... must be wet where your at, really getting imaginative..lol
hello friend, can i mount an air stem from the fox elite fork on my fox rhythm fork? is that the rhythm is sold out in all stores. can i use it? thank you
Can a fox rhythm 2019 fitgrip damper compatible for upgrading to grip2?
36 Performance Elite GRIP2 here. Amount of adjuctability is a bit overwhelming after the Yari.
Can you use this for a 2016 fox 34
Would this include the dj? Basically a fox36 dj that was discontinued. I can’t find info on the grip2 into the newer 36 dj
Thank you for the great video. Can I ask which it better between a Fit Grip 38 (Float Performance) or a Grip2 36 (Performance Elite)? Thank You!
Go for the Grip2 36 performance elite if you want better adjustability and plush ride, but go for the 38 Grip for extra stiffness going downhill.
Hey there
Im asking for an example for a rs boxxer service/rc2.1 damper upgrade for example on a older (2017 boxxer coil) i like the coil but not the damper but i dont know how to service and chanhe it exactly.
Cheers oli
Hi mike, can you recommend me alternative oil for fox ptfe oil and fox 20wt gold oil. I cant find them in my country, Malaysia.
2019 Fit Grip for the price.
I have a Grip damper on a 36 Rythm from a 2020 Norco, would I be able to upgrade to the Grip 2, I heard OEM spec Rythm forks weren't upgradeable?
Did you ever find out if it’s upgradable?
I’m thinking of buying a bike with the same fork.
Can you please make a back to back test with the fox dhx2 vs rockshox superdeluxe coil
Grip1 modded to fit in a cheap fork is like WHOAAA!
I have some questino about the grip damper, on a fox 36 rythtm, can you adjust the rebon or not ??
You can adjust it, it's at the bottom if the right leg, little red nob
I’ve been all about the fatbike recently. I do have a Fox 34 on my full suspension bike, sounds like this is 36 specific tho.
The grip damper and Fit4 are both in the 34, but I am not sure about the grip 2.
mrvwbug44 cool, good to know!
Great Video with a novel approach. Just heading out to try out my 2020 Fox 36 GRIP2 E-Bike specific ( a little heavier duty I think ) Sorry for the interruption the other day. Keep up the good work!
can I upgrade my 26'' fox Rc2 to grip2 ?
I ride Rockshox stuff. I’m excited to try charger 2.1 next season, and I might put a push acs3 in one of my forks at some point.
Hi, have a question. Can I used standard 5w racing fork oil motorex instead of teflon infusion? Thanks
Probably not
Will this go on a bomber z2?
Thanks for the great reviews. I have dilima that I hope you can help me resolve. I bought a new Levo SL with a Fox 34 grip. My plan is to upgrade to a 36. I have been looking at used 36 but what I have available, the 36 comes with the older fit4 damper. Do you thinks it's worth buying used and older technology just pass from 34 to 36? One other fact to consider, the price difference between the used and new 36 with GRIP is $200. I live in the north of Spain and ride mostly enduro. I have been impressed with the 34 so far.
The added stiffness of a 36 could be a great benefit for enduro riding - but only if you feel you could use the extra little bit. You can always consider upgrading the damper to a Grip2 down the road, as well.
@@TheLostCo Thanks for taking the time to reply, it is appreciated.
Now I'm learning more towards a Lyrik Ultimate. Too many good forks in the market. I would probably be happy with either.
I will say, the Fox 34 that came on my SL is impressive. I am not kind to the 34 and it handles well.
Best,
John
Can I buy a grip 2 damper upgrade for my fox 49?
Mike, I have a 2019 Fox factory 36 grip 2 29er fork. It's 160mm currently on my Ripmo V1. Can this fork be upgraded to 170mm?
Yeah, all you need is the 170mm air shaft.
how about Marzocchi Z1? What fox parts can be used?
hello there. Can I use the grip2 damper on marzocchi dj?
just fitted a grip2 on my fox 36 and its AMAZING!! stll braketing the adjustments though
was your fox 36 a Rhythm?
@@powgago yes it was
Last thing, what size socket did you use to remove and install both dampers? Was it a 28mm?
@@powgago to install the grip2 I used a 28mm to remove the grip damper I used a 26mm ! But make sure they are flat sockets at bare minimum or else your screw your dampers for sure you’ll have much more chance for the socket to slip when applying force to unscrew or screw them in! I’d suggest either buying the special sockets or have your LBS let you borrow it for a few hours or for the night, go ask them before closing if you can borrow their special ones and say you’ll bring them Back the next day at opening hour and return them with a six pack of beer 😉
Awesome! Yeah, I bought the park tool socket set for the job. I figured if I’ll be doing fork services in the future, might as well invest in it. Thanks a lot, much appreciated!
Hi, the LSC knob is not turning. Stuck. What do i need to do? Thanks. Grip 2 damper
this is f in dope
That was funny 😁
Hi! I love your channel.
Can I use the grip 2 in my fox 36 rythm 2019???
thank you in advance.
Keep shredding
It would be dope if someone answered this. I'm seeing conflicting stuff online.
I know I've been trying to find this out as well!
Hi I have a 2020 Fox Float 36 Rhythm 160mm Travel with a sweep adjuster. Will a grip 2 damper be compatible with my fork?? annd would I be able to increase travel to 170?? thanks
yes. and yes.
I don't really get it. Is the only con of the Grip that is it doesn't have a lot of adjustments?
Hi, i have a fox 34 with a grip damper. is this available for the 34 too?
no sadly it is 36 exclusive. But u can get the Fit 4
The bomber Z1 seems like a open secret at this point, basically a fox fork at half the price, and upgradable with the good bits from higher end fox forks.
mrvwbug44 you can pick up the Fox 36 Grip2 on sale for $850 right now. That’s only $150 more than the z1
@@mtba102 150 dollars for some stickers. Yikes
@@connorb5824 not the same damper
6:26 You forgot to say that if you try and use a normal socket with chamfered edges it will strip out the top cap.
Hello, I have 2010 26 inch Talas 32 RL with an open bath damper. Is it possible for me to upgrade to one of these dampers?
No, the thread on the top of the fork where the damper screws in changed in 2015.
hello, I have a grip cartridge for a fox 32 rhythm, float 29 (code D5YC).
I would like to replace the grip cartridge with a more performing one. Which one can I buy? Thank you
That top-tier Grip2 is hard to beat. If you reach out to our bike nerds via phone, email, or live chat on our website, they can help you out further.
(360) 306-8827 // sales@thelostco.com
@@TheLostCo Thanks for the reply and for the information.
Any upgrades available for a 2015 Fox Factory CTD 34?
Sorry, just saw this comment! Please email us at sales@thelostco.com with your fork's 4-digit tune ID code or serial number and we'll see what you can do with it!
The real best upgrade is go coil👍
so funny !
Hahaha amazing
With the Grip2 available, why do some bike cos still spec a Fox Factory Fit4? Look at you Pivot.
Ease of set up and XC / Trail people like the lock out feature for uphill grinds. Grip2 doesn't have that. Pivot's longer travel bikes have the Grip or Grip2, whereas the shorter are Grip, Fit4 or Fit Live. I just happened to have the Pivot site already up.
Is rc2 good?
Can you upgrade 36 rythm?
If it is 2015+ you can! It is just a Fox 36 so it should work fine. What bike do you have since not many bikes i know have the Rythm?
@@xare4109 when the corona will be over I will buy Canyon Strive.
The grip 1 reminds me of Morty hahahhaha
😂😂😂👌👌
Great video man, but i think we all can agrre the first part was just a liiitle bit cringe
We just havin' fun 😃
For me FiT is better for heavy weight rider, hard and fast ride
Bro I’ve got a fit grip 😂 never even heard of it but I’ve got it lol
FIT4 26MM socket
Hilarious 😂
Morty, is that you ?
I'm GRIP Damper Morty!!
Lol hahaha
the grip2 isn't compatible with the 36 Rhythm. Which makes me sad
Lost Co. will have more knowledge, but google: specialized evo sleeper. There does seem to be some confusing info out there...
The Fox 36 Rhythm is the same chassis as the Marzocchi Bomber Z1 so it should just drop right in there!
@@TheLostCo i read on a couple places that it wasn't. Hopefully you're right cuz that's hella cheaper than buying a new fork
@@thebadness6217 I have a Fox 36 Rhythm with a Grip2 damper :-) imgur.com/2LwpG9d
@@TheLostCo I have another question. Am i able to reduce the travel on a 36 Rhythm float from 170mm to 150mm?
you look like linus from linustechtips 😁
More of a Boston accent on the RC
you lost me when the damper spoke
🤣🤣
This may be the strangest MTB video I have ever seen...
We can definitely get weirder.