One of our cats, who's since passed, was dumped near our rural property. About nine months old, had just had her first litter, beautiful black kitty. Never found the kittens so they kept them or the wild life got them. She was a wonderful cat and loved to hunt pest critters. I'll never understand why they abandoned her, instead of taking her to the pound if they couldn't care for her, but I'm glad we found her.
I absolutely agree with you there. A lot of bad things could happen to an abandoned pet such as being hit by a car. I mean if they *really* needed to abandon their pets they could at least leave them just outside a shelter.
I grew up in the middle of nowhere. My dad could never say no when we'd show up with a bag from near the river or a box from the woods. I think at 1 point there we had 7 cats and 4 dogs. My mom finally put her foot down when we found a pregnant pig tied to a tree and started calling the SPCA.
I wonder if they were doing it not because the pet was a burden, but specifically to cause pain to OP. Wait til OP loves the animal more than them (not hard if you are a toxic parent) and then get rid of it. Those parents are unhinged, and aren't fit to own animals OR have kids.
I really totally agree. This kind of torturing the child by giving him/her pets then taking them away. That’s so totally horrible and it makes me want to cry for those abandoned pets and heartbroken children. It makes me really glad that my parents actually love me and always have. I loved my pets growing up. Although I was never allowed a dog but I had a cat, hamsters, mice, and guinea pigs with particular permission to breed said guinea pigs by having a shed with several hutches inside. We always found suitable homes for the various generations of babies but other than that and supplying the food and whatnot, I was totally responsible for these guinea pigs. I fed them, I cleaned their hutches, I maintained the shed after Dad assembled it. I’d research animal friendly wood preservers and asked my parents to get me a tin once a year. They also supplied me with a large enclosure with a wooden frame and mesh so that every day so long as the weather was good, I could let them run and have fun on the grass. Indeed I soon learned if I moved the enclosure across the grass bit by bit they’d mow the lawn for us by eating the grass. Ah memories. Once I allowed my favourite female to get pregnant but it was winter and I feared the cold would be a threat to the incoming babies so my mother got me a cage for her and I kept her in my nice warm bedroom. At about 6am one morning I was woken up by the mother giving birth. I watched her all throughout ready to wake my parents and rush her to the vet if anything went wrong. But a while later I was looking adoringly at two healthy babies. Now, I was a child and while I was very responsible for my age I broke all the rules because after school I was reaching into the cage to gently stroke those adorable baby guinea pigs. By day three I was getting them accustomed to being handled. By day five I’m able to have them out on my lap for a short amount of time. The mother, a result of previous breeding, was very patient with me. She always seemed to know I’d always return her babies before long. (I should add that I had a couple of friends and school aquatinces that sometimes lent me some of their males for a few weeks to allow me to use their bloodlines. Usually the “cost” was to give them first dibs on picking one of the babies.) In time I was able to discern that they were both males. But that pair, I never had such tame guinea pigs as those. Likely because I had a lot of close contact instead of being reared in a hutch out in the shed. Even as adults when I let them out in the enclosure they were super tame. (Although I’d provided a hut for them and the enclosure was pretty sturdy, we did have a major fox problem and it wasn’t safe to leave them in the enclosure once dusk started settling in.) So every other morning (I rotated which group was allowed in the enclosure that day and I admit my mother watched them while I was at school) when I opened their hutch and held out my hands they’d rush out of the bedroom area and leap into my waiting hands. And that in late afternoon I could just lift the lid of the enclosure, kneel down and they’d both stop whatever they were doing and ran willingly into my hands or lap. They learned the drill and knew when it was time to be either taken from hutch to enclosure or vice versa. They were also very content to start out on my lap when I wanted to handle them for some cuddle time, then swiftly find a suitable gap between my trousers and fleece. Once inside under my fleece they’d cuddle up to me. Ah I loved those two. None of the others ran to me willingly. I’d usually have to corner them then return them to the hutch. But not these two. I adored them and even selected one for another generation of breeding. I was always fascinated with the breeding of guinea pigs with different colours and patterns of fur to see what was inherited with each generation. Perhaps it’s not a surprise I eventually went to study biology and genetics further down the line as an adult. Alas eventually I had to stop keeping and breeding guinea pigs in the years leading up to university. I also loved the three cats I had growing up. It would have broken my heart if my parents took my beloved pets from me, especially during secondary school when I was heavily bullied. Without the modern internet and lack of social media the bullying never followed me home. The cats gave me a chance to be soothed by their unconditional love. Even now as I approach my fourth decade I live alone with my current wonderful cat of fifteen years. She is good companionship for me and a source of love and affection. She’s well trained and knows several words of English so we communicate well. I love that cat so if someone tried taking her from me I’d probably go to war and the idiot would soon regret their choice. Perhaps I have such empathy for animals and children because I learnt how to care for them and handle the responsibilities from my upbringing. I just can’t imagine parents getting rid of the child’s pets. It can’t do any good to a child to have their beloved pets taken from them. It would only deeply wound the child and cause a deep seated sense of anger and resentment towards the cruel parents. And that’s not even factoring in the damage done to the pet betrayed and abandoned by the ones they loved and trusted the most.
I had a hamster that died and then my parents did the thing where they went to the pet store and bought one that looked exactly alike. I think I had like 6 hamsters before I caught on..
"You're just saying that so you don't have to share" "Lady, I don't need to fake an excuse because I don't _have_ to share a damn thing with you or your bratty kid. Now get lost."
"Lady, I have herpes" ... I think it would have done the job... maybe... hum... Karen: "You don't seems like it. You fake it so you don't have to share!" Crap... Karens are unbeatable! VIH maybe? With that, maybe the risk would have been grand enough to make her step back.
Is there a reason OP in the second story still talks to their parents? they said that the dad still mocks them about the hamster.... CUT TOXIC PEOPLE OUT OF YOUR LIFE......FAMILY OR NOT
Okay....wow. That first story... Okay, so I come from a family of devoted Christians, I myself am one too. I am also a huge anime/Manga nerd, a huge Harry Potter fan, and a mythology nut. And my family is a-okay with that. My mum is actually the one who got me into Harry Potter and encouraged my love for mythology. My kid brother got me into anime. And not once did we ever have any of that 'purging' or 'demon' crap. This mother is totally off her rocker. OP, move away ASAP
I'm a Wiccan. It isn't a secret but super religious members of my family all watch as I enter their church for family functions (baby or bridal showers weddings etc...) I swear to the Goddess they expect me to burst into flames upon entering the building lol 😆
My family is Catholic. Heck, my maternal grandpa was an active *deacon* til the day he died. Dad's a convert and a *HUGE* nerd. He's got a substantial collection of books on mythology, a whole *library* of fantasy and sci-fi novels, and likes to point out that the man who *invented* the modern fantasy genre was *Catholic.* I grew up on the works of Tolkien and Lewis. Mom comes the closest to having that 'fantasy is the work of the devil' attitude, but only that she's uncomfortable with some aspects of the genre, probably from association with roleplaying games. Several of her college friends became obsessed with AD&D to the detriment of their grades and much of their social lives outside that tight group of friends. This isn't even Mom's version of events, by the way, she was rather vague about her concerns regarding my interest in AD&D when I was a young teen. I asked Dad about it, whose collection of AD&D books is what sparked my interest and was frequently the DM for the friend group.
...I've found, through experience, that people who grew up with religion...be it parents or grandparents...someone close enough to where it was seen regularly...they rarely go so over the top with it. Mostly it's the mid-life crisis converts that do it. They seem to come to this strange conclusion that in order to make up for not having been religious they need to act the part of the zealot...like, somehow, the God they now worship will smite them for not having been a believer in the past. Generally...they hit that plateau shortly after converting then get brought back down to ordinary levels by the people around them because the overwhelming majority of religious folks aren't comfortable with fanatics. In short...OP's mom will most likely calm down in a short while once she starts hearing from her fellow churchgoers that she's lost her nut and needs to take it down a notch.
@@KingNicotine Listening to radio preachers doesn't help, as they tend to *encourage* that attitude. Which is *crazy* because the *Bible* says the exact *opposite.*
If your parents give away your pets, report them to child protective services as it is psychological and emotional abuse. If they abandon a pet, file a report with animal control, as it's animal neglect.
I don't think you can call protective service for parents giving away a pet. There are many reasons pets need to be given away it's sad but there are reasons. If they just dump the pets, let them run away then that is a crime I believe.
@@BlahBlahBlahBlah69 there are many reasons but it doesn’t seem like the mom had any justifiable reason other than they hated seeing their kid happy and taking care of a living being Like, if you don’t like animals don’t get them to begin with, but to wait for your kid to become attached just to rip the animal away when they’re not home and without telling them is cruel And the hamster thing, the mom had no reason for that, as the brother wasn’t bothered, but she used him as an excused to once again rid of another animal that was being properly taken care of by op when she didn’t have a problem with it when the brother was neglecting it 🤷♀️ Like it’s clearly to spite op which yes, is abusive and could be reported
I was already having my blood boil with the second story, hearing about how heartless those parents were to constantly give away their child's pets without their permission, and then turn around and get crazy when it came to their own pets. And then we get to the story from the comments... and now I find myself hoping I can get a time machine and the personal details of that dad, so that I can find him as he's driving away, drag him from the car, and break his body as much as he broke his child's heart and that of his child's pets.
Take me with you please, I need to break his bones one by one to calm down. If I ever witnessed someone abandoning a dog, I seriously think I could snap
@@riel4553 If I were to change the past, it would be to bring all those animals to the present and drop them right at their owner's feet, maybe while his "forgetful" dad is next to him, and then look that man in the eye and say "If I had to choose between saving an animal like you and animals like them... I'd save the one that actually loves your son."
My parents used to do that with my pets, too. I promised myself that I would never do that to my child, so we've had a cat for 16 years now. We got her when my daughter was 1 1/2 years old and she's about to be 18. I couldn't imagine giving her a revolving door of pets like my parents did to me.
@@Mithcoriel The movie Lassie. Or experiences of their parents doing that to them. Basically a feeling that their child should go through the same trauma as them.
I was given a Boxer/Ridgeback cross puppy when I was about 11. He followed me everywhere and would protect me by just showing his teeth and growling softly. After about two years he started roaming the neighbourhood and my parents decided it was too dangerous for him. One Saturday my dad, our minister and I went for a drive with my dog. I little realised that they were taking my dog to a trading store in the country to be a guard dog. When I realised what was happening I was devastated. My companion was gone and I never saw him again. After all these years (I'm 74 now) I still miss him.
In the magical pre-covid times this happened to me. I was at a theme park with my family, just chilling on a bench while they were on a water ride. This woman comes up and asks for my drink for her kid and when I told her she could purchase a fresh one at the booth roughly 30 feet away from us she got pissed. After a bit of back and forth the kid grabbed my drink and ran off with it. The mum said something like "see that wasn't so hard was it?" I let out an overdramatic sigh and said "no, but you'd best be getting him the a&e because I have HIV and we just shared saliva" (I do not, but it was the first thing to come to my mind. Also am aware its not transmittable through saliva but this woman was pig shiz dumb) she screamed, ran to her kid, started screaming her head off and threw the drink in my general direction. She was screaming about her baby being infected with aids and that I intentionally gave her kid aids. I just walked away while she was having her panic tantrum. She was still screaming when my family got off the ride. My cousin asked me what the screaming was about, I simply told him Karen doesn't know the difference between aids and HIV, nor does she know HIV is not transmittable through saliva. My sister said I went too far but brat stole my drink, he deserved his day ruined when his Karen of a mother could have bought one herself for £2.75 30 feet away. Best £2.75 I've ever wasted
Lesson time. Whenever someone "wants" something of yours, whether food or drink, your hat, something in your shopping-cart, *PREPARE.* Someone's gonna make a grab for it. Be ready to grab fingers and bend them back. Be ready to slap *hard* right in the face. Be ready with a super-tight grip on your goodies. Whatever. Well over a decade ago, I was with my cousin at a neighborhood street-fair. Close off the main drag, have food carts and other vendors, that kind of thing. He had this bottle of "Orbit"(?), a clear sody-pop with candylike things floating around in it (tasted nasty, but look kewl). Along comes The Karen, and equally karenny brat in tow. The Brat sees the Orbit, wants one. The Karen doesn't ask, but demands to know where to get one. "Over by the XYZ." "Oh, that's too far, give him yours." We both look at each other with this "wtf??" expression, like did The Karen actually demand he give The Brat his drink? Apparently so. He just looks at her and smirks, "Yeah, right, THAT'LL happen...". Oh nonononono, that flicked the MegaKaren switch, and she YELLS at him as if he stole her kid's drink and again DEMANDS he give it to The Brat. We both turn and start walking in the opposite direction, but he knew what was coming. Sure enough, the kid comes from behind, GRABS the bottle HARD, first with one hand and then with both, twisting it back'n'forth, and tries yanking it away from my cousin. Not only is he hanging on to it with a deathgrip, but takes his free hand and slaps the kid HARD right across the face and sends him flying. I thought he clenched-fist punched the kid, but nope, it was a slap. Of course, The Karen starts yelling her head off, calling for the cops, etc., but people who saw the previous commotion saw and were still watching, also saw the kid making the grab, started shouting her down, saying, "Gohead and call the cops, and we'll tell them what your little THIEF was trying to do!". This one woman was just staring open-mouthed at the whole shiitshow and not saying a word, until she came to and then just started laffing at The Brat.
@@joeschmo622 good on your cousin! you'd better believe I'd be back handing a Karen if she pulled something like this, but unfortunately slapping kids under 16 is not good for my future career goals so slapping Karens has to be my limit there 😆. Fake giving him HIV was enough for me lol.
@@ava-rosekerr9811 ~ well... maybe just drop the whole BBQ-CBGB-OMFUG part... (for those of you not in the know, CBGB-OMFUG was a popular 1970s punk rock venue where The Ramones, Talking Heads and Blondie, amongst others got their start or played often)
This poor girl. Get out away from that, Robin. She’s gone wacky and it has to be something deeper. Can you live with your father? I’m hoping the best for you. You don’t deserve what’s happened to your belongings, it’s wrong.
Wait, the third OP is at higher risk for a liver transplant surgery, yet, his family tells him to do it anyway because "who cares"? That's basically like saying they don't care if he/she dies or not.
My mom was just like that, always getting dogs and getting rid of them within weeks, including my turtles and cat. Can really sympathize with the first story.
Same but my mom gave them away too save their lives. My dad was physically abusive, and when he tossed my last cat out (literally threw her up into the air and outside into the concrete patio), my mom stopped getting us pets. Somme parents just really suck. =big hug=
My dad always managed to get rid of my pets when I was growing up but at that time, both parents would claim they didn't know what happened to the pets, that they must have just run off. Finally after I was an adult, my dad admitted to getting rid of all of my pets. When my dog got old, he even admitted to taking him out to the country and throwing him in a ditch to die. Never spoke to him again before his death many years later.
It hurts, does a lot of damage. Worse was the years of "no, I didn't mean it" then when I was disowned "you're just like your father" and blaming me for acting just like him (despite not) and causing disruptions all my teen years because I was just like him. Some people cannot be reasoned with, and unstable middle aged women going through an identity crisis will lash out just because. But hey, mom's minus her eldest daughter now forever, so good for her lightening that load.
Story 2, those parents that get rid of pets are bad enough, but dumping pets out in the middle of nowhere is just plain evil. Those people should suffer pain unending.
As a mom, if I ever need an organ transplant I would never ask one of my kids to give me theirs, especially if it’s a permanent loss, like a kidney or lung. What if one of their kids needs a transplant? Make the sacrifice for your kids, not your mother. Also since the mom drank her liver to death, is she even eligible for a transplant? I know alcoholics, smokers and drug addicts aren’t even allowed on the waiting lists
...to the best of my knowledge current alcoholics, smokers and drug users are eligible for transplants...but they're the back of the line...bottom of the list...they may get a transplant in the miracle event that they manage to get through everybody else on the list. Secondly...a part of the liver is a permanent loss...your liver doesn't grow back what it lost. Lastly...and mind you this only my opinion...I'm having a hard time buying this one. I mean...it's the perfect storm...even the doctor is telling her she should do it because "she doesn't have kids"? I'm fairly confident no doctor would try to pull that line on someone. Another thing...notice how OP makes mention that she has a particular lifestyle and doesn't want kids several times through the story? It's almost like she absolutely NEEDS people to validate her life choice for her. Unfortunately...the way I'm seeing this one...it's a fabricated story so OP can get pity points...that's all.
Alcoholics usually are at the very bottom of the list, if they're on it at all. Given the past history, I'd tell that mom that I don't even care what happens, you're not getting my liver or anything else from me. She drowned one liver in booze, she'll do it again.
They only take a portion of the liver - like one lobe - for a transplant with the expectation that donor's liver will regenerate the removed portion and the transplanted lobe will regenerate the rest of the liver in the recipient's body. Liver's gonna hafta so a lot of bench presses to get stuck in that cask-o'-Akvavit of a mum...
The story about the kid at the festival who stole the booze: I have a similar story, but it takes place at the yearly county fair in my town. I was around 8 or 9 when this happened, so I can't remember everything but I DO remember my Step dad's interaction with this Karen VERY well. My mom, step dad and myself arrived at the Fairgrounds pretty early, because there was supposed to be an exotic animal booth that you could go to and take pictures with. My mom and I got a picture with a boa (I still have that picture and while my mother is smiling, you can see the terror in her eyes.) My step dad wanted to get a picture with a red macaw named Mikey, and since my mom doesn't like birds I decided to be in the picture with them. The handler helped me and my step dad hold Mikey and as we got our picture taken my step dad asked if it was alright if I gave him some pets, and of course the handler said it was, as long as I was careful. I lightly petted his head and neck, the big guy made a few happy squawks before pulling out a feather and putting it on my head. The handler was very impressed, because Mikey apparently hated giving away his stray feathers, so him willingly giving me one was a real treat. I was really happy, and used a hair clip to keep it in my hair. Well...enter our wild Karen and her tiny hellspawn. (I want to make it clear I don't blame the kid, he just happened to have a real Karen of a mother) Karen and her son had been in line behind us, loudly complaining that it was taking so long to get through the line, while her son was happily bouncing up and down wanting to see the "big birds" as he called them. Well my step dad and I finished up, I said bye to Mikey, and thanked him for the feather. We left and all I heard was Karen sigh dramatically as she pushed her kid forward with a loud huff of, "FINALLY!" We thought it was over but an hour or two later I was fixing the feather so it wouldn't fall out when out of nowhere I heard a loud, "YOU!" I turned and Karen was stalking towards us with what I can only describe as pure unhinged entitled rage. My mom had gone off to get us some food, so my step dad decided he needed to keep himself between this crazy woman and me. He simply asked her, "Can I help you?" And she immediately snaps, "Give my son that macaw feather, he loves birds and none of them would give him one of their feathers!" Confused, he just states that it's my feather and he's not going to make me give it to her. This pissed her off BIG TIME and she tried to shove him away to get to me while screaming, "She doesn't need it! She doesn't even like birds!" Of course I get immediately scared and start clinging to my step dad because some random lady is trying to grab something out of my hair. Luckily, my step dad was VERY protective of me and threatened to call the cops over if she didn't leave his daughter alone. (It wasn't the first time he called me his daughter and not his step daughter, but it sticks out in my mind as the first time he went into "Overprotective father mode" so it's a happy memory of him in the end) This seemed to make Karen snap out of it, however briefly, and she simply snapped, "Selfish little cunt!" as she stormed off towards what I assume was her husband who was watching their son a little ways away. I lost the picture of my step dad and me holding the macaw a while ago, still searching for a copy of it but not sure it exists, but I still have the memory of that night as one of my favorite memories of him.
People mistreating animals, especially just getting rid of them like they _aren't_ thinking and feeling beings, is the one way to make me furious enough to hurt someone.
We found a puppy who stayed with us for 16 amazing years and my brother brought home a cat that last 21 years before being put down. Those two were my entire childhood, and I couldn't imagine life without them.
@@lemmymaster Many years ago -- like, in the '80s -- I went to a Peace Fest in Chicago. There was a table there of animal rights literature, including flyers for some supplement -- I assume taurine -- that would let cats be vegetarian and not die. I said to the lady behind the table, "So you really don't like animals, huh?" She was puzzled. "No, we *love* animals!" "Then why aren't you okay with them being what they are?" A few years later I knew a couple who decided their cat should be a vegan. A sadder, sicker-looking cat you have never seen.
Robyn can (and should) require restitution for the destruction of personal property. Older DVDs can be quite expensive, she might have just committed a felony if she "purged" enough items.
You know it is unlikely any court will accept a charge against the mother, much less allow a conviction. OP's best move is simply MOVE ON. If mom has a mental/emotional issue all you can do is hope she gets professional help.
@@davidkermes393 That mom would never admit having any problems. Control freak holy-rollers will do that know-it-all, never-wrong, "devil purging" crap and blame everyone else for whatever happens that they perceive as bad. She likely lost her job because she pulled that whackadoodle stuff on people at work. I'm inclined to think that her 'church" is actually a cult.
@@davidkermes393 Oh so the mom is allowed to STEAL from her child now essentially? Emotional problems or not THEFT IS THEFT. And what the mom did can CLEARLY be considered teft.
First story, Mom has definitely been sucked into a cult. It is a hard thing to have to disown a parent, but for your own mental health you should go as close to no contact as possible, and place her on a do not inform list ( or whatever terminology they use for it) with your school, which will keep them from divulging information about you to her. Cults live to suck people in, and she will eventually try to draw you in as well using whatever gaslighting and manipulation techniques they teach her. Your instinct will like be to try and bring her out of it, but it would take literal years of your life, as well as an utterly ridiculous amount of money, to get her declared incompetent, get guardianship of her, get her into a mental health facility that specializes in deprogramming, all while guarding yourself from her and her cult overlords (because they frown on people getting away and exposing them). This is not a burden that you should have to shoulder.
Yeah, I was thinking a thoroughly brainwashing cult (less likely, they usually want you to live among the cult if they're going that far, from what I hear) or a psychotic break. That kind of complete change in attitude and beliefs is not exactly normal...especially the 'your things drew demons into the house' part O_o() That part reeaallly kinda screams paranoid schizophrenic to me, but what do I know, I'm not a psychologist...
@@LunaP1 as someone who believes in God. I don't think he had anything to do with that crap show 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ I think he might have even been looking down like what the heck is she doing.
Story 4: Even if there wasn't any booze in there, you never take a drink from a stranger. Taking a drink from someone else either results in getting a liquid you'd never expect, or a bacteria/virus
I know, right? Just thinking about the backwash in there makes me nauseous! Who thinks it's ok to drink out of some stranger's drink let alone give it to your kid?? The absurdity of the situation is just unbelievable!
@@PeterShipley1 The kid's actions could easily wind up in a self-sterilization incident in the future if he doesn't clean up his act, sure, but having non-medicinal alcohol in a bottle doesn't necessarily sterilize the outside of the bottle.
I once was at a friend's house, and grabbed a cup full of clear liquid, thinking it was water. The second it hit my lips I nearly dropped it. It was laundry detergent.
Story 1: OP needs to move in with her' uncle and sue her' Mother for loss of property because this is WRONG on so many levels, again Entitled Religious Karens ruin lives in the worst possible ways
I really don’t know what to say about the first story after she removed/sold the daughter’s stuff. I think the religion thing tended to be an excuse for selling the stuff.
@@mikoto7693 not selling the op said she threw away and donated everything which somehow to me feels worse because op can't even get the value of the items without going to court because she treated it all like trash and hand-me-downs
@@mikoto7693 Yeah. I know some religious people think that any kind of non-religious fiction is evil, but they're *nuts.* I'm Catholic and the only member of the family who comes *close* to having a problem with fantasy is Mom. *Just barely,* it's more that she prefers sci-fi and is a little uncomfortable with magic. She was fine with us reading Harry Potter, but read it herself to make sure there wasn't anything untoward that we weren't telling her. She ended up *enjoying* the books and half-jokingly beat herself up for it. She was also reluctant to let me play AD&D, but only because several of her college friends had become legitimately obsessed with the game and she knows I have obsessive tendencies. And I know the friends really were unhealthily obsessed because I asked Dad about it. He's the one who *introduced* me to AD&D and was often DM for the college friend group. He explained how the obsession happened and the effect it had. Beyond that, my parents would *never* throw out or sell my stuff without asking me. Not even if it was inconvenient to store. There have been several times when Mom was in a 'clear out the house' mood and *called me* to ask if some specific item was mine or if something she knew was mine was something I wanted to keep because it'd been in storage for so long. If there was stuff she didn't want in the house anymore, she'd *tell me,* put it in a box, and hand the box to me next time I visited. She's *wanted* to throw out Dad's collection of National Geographics for as long as I can remember because there are *so many of them* and Dad hardly ever touches them. For the longest time, they sat in a stack next to the chimney in the attic, which happened to put them above Mom and Dad's room. She's often said she expected to find a National Geographic sized hole in the ceiling one day. She hasn't done anything, though, because Dad doesn't want to.
I mean you could, but I betcha anything the Karen would just accuse you of lying (which yeah in this case you would be) and continue to demand your personal drink. To better combat this I would recommend the following, “sure you can have my drink. But what’s this I see floating in it? A piece of dust… Let me get it out real quick…” /spits into the bottle and then hands it to her smiling/ “Here you are. You still want it, don’t you?” As gross as that is I guarantee nobody not even the most stubborn of Karens will want your drink after doing that.
Story 1: For your safety, go no contact until she apologizes and see if a relative will allow you to stay with them when you're home from school. What's likely happened is that your mother got a bit "empty nest" and was likely drawn to a church group because she was lonely and the bad ones prey on that and create a sense of belonging. I say bad here because it sounds like her newfound faith is giving her an excuse to blame all her problems on other people and the devil rather than take a realistic look and account of her own actions. She does not need to be talking to you until she seeks some therapy and apologizes -- and that is the bare minimum.
First story: “Purge her brother’s house, his house…” surprised she didn’t get decked! Not knowing her place story: bye, bye. Don’t let the door hit you where the good lord split you! Donate a liver story: shocked that the doctor even said that to op! 😠 And how do you know that in a few more years, she might WANT to have a child - yeah, family 😒 Coke story: and you’re suppose to “share” why? Just because the refreshment stand doesn’t have it gives you permission to swipe things from complete strangers? Be glad it wasn’t spiked with more than just whiskey.
Honestly if the doctor called back to my decision I would tell him no and you can relay that to everybody that they're feeling salty then they can be no contact which is preferable I do not want to be invited to the funeral! And oh yes please be mindful of what comes out of your mouth because the thing you said to me last we met seems the type of thing a doctor loses his license over along with getting a lawsuit that would not be surprised if I look up the local news of the area and find out that actually happened to you! So buck up Chum. Have yourself a good day :-) and then hang up on him I don't even want a response!
Story 1: Mom needs to get some mental help. Story 2: Thats child abuse. My family NEVER and I mean NEVER gave up on an animal. I come from a family that runs an English Bulldog kennel so yeah. The only pet I've parted ways with without burying is a cat I had to re-home named Jetty who was starting to pee on my at the time infant son's stuff. But I made sure she was taken care of and put into a happy home. I miss that black cat. Story 3: GO NO CONTACT! Story 4: Heard this story a few months ago. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Story 5: Karma exists.
@@jakefox589 depends. Religion is used for good and bad. Depends on group or person. Science is used by bad people to but are we going to say all science is bad? Of course not.
@@jakefox589 christianity is good. Unfortunately people are giving us a bad name by going against what the Bible says and being judgemental and hate filled. The Bible says to love thy neighbor and if you judge then by that same measure you will be judged
always tickles me to see how shocked parents are when the kids they have tortured through their pets decide later on in life to go no contact with them. Much truth to the saying, what goes around comes around.
Story 1: Depending on the price of the items thrown away, You could file for theft charges. If you don't want to go that route I'd definitely go no contact.
Given the sort of things they were talking about, they could easily be talking thousands of dollars there. Manga are not cheap. Collectibles are less so.
If my religious mom had destroyed any of my warhammer models or other collectibles when I was in college, I would have gone nuclear as the combined purchase price of those models were already in the £4'000 range, and they are *ALL* customised, converted and hand painted by me...
Story 2: There is a special place in hell for parents like them. They gave those animals false hope. Especially the dog who chased the car, it didn't understand what was going on. Makes my blood boil just writing this 😡😡😡😡
Story 4: This reminds me of another story like this. But instead of whiskey, the bottle of coke was used to hold OP’s chewing tobacco that they spat out. And when Karen’s son took the bottle off of them, I’ll spare you the gross details.
Liver story: You would be surprised at how many messed up things doctors say and do, especially to the childfree. The childfree are not even viewed as human to many people, because who doesn't love screaming kids? Never mind on whether or not you may be passing on some horrible disease, especially if you are a woman, you need to have kids or you are "unnatural". I've heard that from a OB/GYN who I don't see anymore.
That irritates me to no end. I'm not a woman but I can at least attest to the fact that all human beings regardless of gender are lives that should be considered precious. It's the one thing in this life you can't get back once it's gone so for a doctor to say that OP should consider it because she doesn't have kids whereas OP's mom does, well... OP's mom did her job and doesn't have kids to look after anymore. Guess what, she has nothing to lose either so if her liver fails and she goes away well...Too bad. OP's life doesn't matter less or more but the mom made her choices by excessively drinking. And as I said earlier in this post, we have one life to live and you can't get it back once it's gone. And her choices led to this fate. Like...did the mom think OP would forget all the abuse and pain for 17 years that was done to them? "Oh you're my mother SURE" And the family saying OP didn't matter because they didn't have kids can go somewhere too. See if they're a match. Even if they are I bet they'll say no because their life is too important. Which is a valid excuse because we should all value our lives and take care of ourselves, but don't volunteer others if you yourself won't even offer it yourself.
In regards to the first story, this strikes me as a woman desperately trying to control the world around her, perhaps in response to the trauma of the divorce. Something happened that sent her over the edge. Religion is just how she justifies it. After all, if God says she can, who is anyone else to criticize? My brother is very much the same with his religion. I've avoided him for a very long time now.
One word: Hypocrites. If a second word is needed: Zealots. I'm all for people finding God and turning their lives around, but one of the biggest lessons Jesus taught was to love and accept others. That means respecting their property, too. If she wanted it out of HER house, the better (and more godly) action would have been to ASK OP to come get it.
The first story, I can counter OP’s Mom’s arguments with 4 words. “Thou shalt not steal.” This is an example of someone who gets too deep into their view of everything must be pure that they end up forgetting the 10 basic rules God laid forth in the Ten Commandments
First story: Why do I feel that this "finding of god" is just an excuse to be as noisy, entiled and stole as much as she want for money? Because ANY religion inpose itself on others.
Just because somebody has no kids does not mean they have to give you things. The doctor which I don't know why to even saying that is just beyond stupid. I definitely would call out the mother for dang sure if she was my own. Besides she will definitely drink for that liver down again. Also, you can't just use kids for something like that
We should stop thinking just because people are doctors that they are automatically good, compassionate people. They can be stupid, selfish, uncaring and dangerous humans too.
We all have only one liver. So, I am guessing they'd take half? Any more would be life threatening to OP. This isn't like donating one of our two kidneys. Mom had her run, she literally drank herself to this state. Too bad for her. OP is right to nope out of this situation.
@@___LC___ Unfortunately, if the child is a minor, or even an adult living in her house, she may have the legal right to do so. If the adult is paying rent, then that changes everything. Legal doesn't make it right.
I love how the OP and parent in the last story feels an overwhelming sense of pride in simply KNOWING this amazing woman, and they're so glad that she didn't become their relation, because it would have involved marrying THAT GUY. Like, if she could have become their relation in any other way, they would have welcomed her with open arms, and they would have loved her so much, and claimed her as their own, and they even did, sort of, at the end, with that PRIDE in her accomplishments, and her joy in living, and ability to forgive. I mean, it just doesn't get more wholesome than that.
Story 1: Yep, mom has gone bat guano crazy. Live with a relative, go full NC with the mom, and see if there is any legal recourse regarding all the stuff thrown out. Story 2 - Go full NC with the parents as soon as OP is able and if OP ever has to make the decision to put the parents in a nursing home, it will be a pit of a home. Story 3 - go full NC with any and all relatives pressuring the OP to donate. And tell the doctor, that his comments were (at best) insulting and dismissive and overall very unprofessional.
May I also add, Story 3's OP should also tell that doctor to not call again until it's grave-dancing time. Bear in mind, not funeral time, but time to dance on the freshly-filled grave with a bottle of whiskey and a boom box playing a dubstep remix of 'Ding Dong the Witch is Dead'.
The first story really hits my heart. I was around the same age when my own mother started to act the same type of way but I was stuck in the middle of the whole storm. My father was injured badly in an accident and I was caring for him at home and had a rebellious 15 year sister I was trying to help keep out of trouble. My mother blamed and resented me for anything and everything. I'm so glad that you have the ability to take care of your emotional and mental health away from the situation. Mine drove me to an addiction from trying to self medicate. My mother was diagnosed with level one bipolar disorder after having a breakdown when my grandmother passed. This doesn't mean the same for you of course. I imagine the pain, confusion, and grief of the loss of your "old mom" is similar. I felt alone and you are not. Life does give you answers in time. I can now at 38, forgive her and can approach her with more understanding. Lean on the people who are there for you and take care of yourself. Set healthy boundaries and if you suspect she may need help then talk to your uncle about contacting a resource to help. She may be having trouble adjusting to life while you are away. She may feel alone too. Hugs and love from Vermont
Story 2 :- Oddly relatable! My parents did that to me too. The worst was a rabbit I got when I was 8. It was a pair with my younger brother but I was the one taking care of them. A year later his dies but mine is fine so my mom decided why should I be the only with a pet? She took him to her school (she was the principle) and had him stuffed while still alive... I still refuse to bring any living thing within her proximity! She's given away more puppies and kittens that belonged to my brothers and sister than I can count.
story 2: just straight up evil, they bought pets for the sole purpose of hurting their kids, they wanted their kids to get attached so they could rip it away and then taunt them over it for years. OP for your own sake please cut these evil people out of your life and never look back.
Having dealt with religious relatives I can say that the whole 'attracting negative energy" and 'need to get rid of the demons' and blaming the kid for the failure of the marriage due to bad music and whatnot isn't normal Christianity. It sounds a lot like some of the 'Word of Faith' / WoF cult stuff I've had to put up with. It's a totally weird mix of new age concepts into all the controlling aspects of Christian cults and I hope she sees through it soon but I wouldn't hold my breath. Not that op would ever read it here, but the only advice I can offer is to get out of that house, even if you were a Christian because nothing less than total control of all activities and especially finances is good enough for that group.
I was thinking the Church of god here in our area. Almost out right cultists. The stand on the street corner of busiest areas and bull horn their views at you whilst you drive by. Same group goes door to door too. Pounded on my door for like the 4th time while I was showering. I came out in a towel worried there was a fire or something cuz after 5 minutes you'd think they would give up. Nope they wanted to save my soul you know. I explained I was a Wiccan and wasn't interested in changing my religion Had to drop the towel and ask if they wanted to join my religion. I worship in my skysuit under the sun and moon. They started sending only women to my door. I then actually hit them with the hose. Oops. I didn't see you there are you okay? Good thing its hot today. Their next tactic you ask? They sent 2 young children to my back yard to preach at me while I was gardening. I fed those lovely littles all kinds of veggies and fruits all while waiting for CPS and the sheriff to come because I had 2 unaccompanied children just show up in my garden. Thirsty and hungry. What pissed me off the most was those children were hungry and thirsty and looked like they hadn't had a decent meal in weeks. Yes they were clean but geez they were only like 6 and 8. Just little ones. I could have been a pervert for all they knew or cared. Putting their children in danger like that. The sheriff took control took my statement the CPS actually looked at them and how they were still eating raspberries and strawberries and cucumbers and tomatoes out in my back yard and took them right then and there. These Church folk no longer bother me and the sheriff told me I could put a restraining order on them to leave me alone if they ever pulled this again. But come to find out. One of my cousins had joined their little cult and she told them all about her wicked Wiccan witch cousin. Thats why they would not leave me be. But oof! I know not all religion is bad but this was a head shaker
On the pet angle, there are a lot of assholes parents out there. My dad had let's dump a cat at exactly the way that the other ones did with the boys dog. 3 years later we were working on someone's house, and a cat walks up to me... The very one. It turns out that she kept walking till she came to a group of houses and his yard was the one that she selected to hang out in, and he brought her in the very day that she first appeared. I'm glad to say that she lived a long life with someone who really cared for her.
I cant imagine what it would be like for a parent to give away a pet like that. We love animals and keep them. Right now I'm still taking care of my son's senior kitty.
My husband mother passed away 2 years ago and his brother was going to just drop her cats off somewhere in the country or at the kill pound. He can't figure out why I think he's a POS
Hey, Fluff. I had this experience myself. My late wife became New Age and Wiccan and demanded that I do the same. She was extremely emotional (she had lost touch with reality ... I didn't fully realize this until after her suicide) and this kind of conversion can be very uncomfortable for family members and close friends). So yeah, if OP can go no contact with mom, do it!
I am with the uncle of the OP in story #1. This sounds more like perhaps a mental break from stress - which is sounds like Mom has had a lot of, or a near-cult experience, or both. I wouldn't go FULL non-contact. But I would go limited contact, perhaps asking the uncle and the rest of the family to hold an intervention of sorts - OP's mother needs to know that she hurt OP, and how she hurt OP. It's not going to be easy on anyone, as Mom may not be at a point where she CAN listen, let alone is willing to. But it is just so hard to ever suggest going full non-contact with family. Family is so important, in my opinion. So yeah ... I would tell OP to talk to your Uncle, and work together with the rest of the family to help your mother with what she needs to have a healthy relationship with everyone. The worst thing is that your mother isn't ready for that yet, but you have a stronger relationship with the rest of your family to make up for it.
Problem is, especially in this day and age, such a system would be too easily corrupted. Say, to screen out potential parents who don't have the right political leanings, or who are religious, or whatever they decided they didn't want more of. None of which is an indicator for poor parenting. It could be a very scary form of social control.
@@salenlathgalintren4937 exactly, unfortunately we let the types of people who are corrupt run the system unchecked and unaccounted. So unless we the people as a whole put checks in place to keep corruption at bay then we'll never really be able to have working systems to protect children from their own parents. You just can't trust people to control the basic human right of reproductive autonomy. Once we fully accept that all humans lie and are corruptible through bribery, threats and narcissistic/selfish/psychotic characteristics, then we can put proper checks in place to keep accountability and consequences for tyrannical behavior. Also rationality seems to be in short supply these days but I digress, I think there should be personality/character tests for leadership positions as well. But we would need to advance mentally as a species so control with money by the most pathetic of us doesn't run the whole world. Because let's be honest, zuckerborg, bozos, most of our congress/leaders and all the rich faceless men/women that practically run our countries with their wallets are pathetic empty little people with nothing worthwhile inside that will die bitter and alone. But not before they set the world on fire to make the rest of us suffer along with them
@@salenlathgalintren4937 Well, we could certainly start by finally enforcing the first amendment and remove/prevent religiously-motivated laws, statutes, and codes. Once we finally re-establish America's Founders' intended secular precedents, we can get around to enacting/enforcing laws that protect children and the public. Believe it or not, holding a religious view does not give one the ability to break laws without consequence. If a 'religion' claims that child abuse is one of their core principles, that cult should be investigated and its members sanctioned. Religion is fine. Criminal activity disguised as religion is not. No one has the right to violate someone else's rights, regardless of their so-called 'religious views'. As for political leanings, the Overton window of public discourse is indeed too far to the extreme ends right now. Certain things that shouldn't even be political have been taken up as political calling cards. However, politics isn't even the issue in the end. It's extremism. The extreme views on both far ends of the political spectrum are toxic and dangerous. Left-leaning or right-leaning, there are people on both extreme ends that should never be parents.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 people from both sides abuse kids, not just religious ones and that is a minority. I don’t know a single religious person who abused children and I know some who in fact saved several from suicide
I will state that I have heard stories of parents throwing let's say collectible items and the child successfully sues the parents. one particular person had a collection of Playboy magazines that his parents had to repay him for. "An Indiana man is suing his parents for getting rid of his vast pornography collection, which he estimates is worth $29,000." so I would suggest getting a list with estimates...
Story 4: Particularly considering the story was pre-Covid, even considering calling CPS on a parent for their kid taking a sip of someone's drink is insane. Demanding the drink is absolutely entitled on the part of the Karen, but people shouldn't be paranoid about every single possible exposure to any sort of germs. A friend of mine died a few years ago from falling down the stairs in his house and hitting his head on something...if he'd been wearing a helmet while walking around his house he probably would've been fine, but if you live your life worrying about every single thing that could possibly go wrong, you're not going to live much of a life. If you have a choice you should try to drink your own stuff, but if you're really thirsty and someone offers a sip of water, or you accidentally drink from the wrong bottle, it's not the end of the world. In the vast majority of cases you're going to be perfectly fine, and in the vast majority of cases where you're not 100% fine, you'll get a cold. Could you get something more serious? Yes. Could you fall down your stairs and die because you weren't wearing a helmet? Yes. Are those things likely enough to happen that you should overly concern yourself about them? Absolutely not.
@@Bangbangshelly These kinds of things happens everywhere. My cousin and I were at a BBQ on the beach with some friends when some kid grabs the can of Fanta Exotic she was holding and ran off with it, barely 2 minutes after cousin told his mom he couldn't have it. Note: My cousin used to be a heavy smoker and she was using the can as an impromptu ashtray. I don't know what happened to the kid, but I sincerely hope he smelled the can before taking a nice big gulp of "Fanta Marlboro". :P
Oh dear, that first story! I had a friend in elementary school who's mom was that sort of person. She once claimed that it was MY mom's fault that she (friends mom) had no friends. Mind you they had never even met! But apparently my mom transferred her bad energy to me, I transferred it to my friend and she transferred it to her mom. And voila, everything was my mom's fault and had nothing to do with the fact, that my friends mom was CRAZY. Worst thing was; She was an elementary school teater 😖
The OP whose religious mom threw out her stuff should go full No Contact for theft. It doesn't matter it was "only" thrown out (even if the mom had initially purchased the items); any taking of personal possessions of another is theft.
My first though about story #1 is that maybe the mom hasn't just "lost her marbles" but might actually be experiencing some kind of actual mental illness, maybe even with hallucinations or delusions, which could contribute to her being more susceptible to "religious mania" and manipulation by certain types of churches (they particularly like to make divorced women feel bad about themselves). I say this because I went through similar with my mom in my teen years, though she didn't go so far as to throw out my stuff. I sincerely hope everything gets better.
Thank you for that last story...I was beginning to get upset at the inhumanity I was hearing, especially when it comes to pets. My cats are family, and heaven help the person who tries to abandon an animal. I'm not very nice when it comes to that.
That last story is so uplifting! I've probably never met that awesome lady, but I'm proud of her all the same. I hope more women follow her shining example - not only to be successful and enjoy what you do, but to leave past wrongdoers squarely in the PAST, where they belong. I say she's an inspiration to women, but guys can benefit from her example, too. God bless, yall!
My mom did that with my turtles I had for years. She made me go out and put them in the river so they were ‘free’ because her then boyfriend now husband hated them.
The "mom" in the first sotry are the exact type of person who gives religion a bad name. Don't take me wrong, if you're religious, fine by me, go you. But please, don't shove down peoples throats. And also, technically speaking, didn't she break one of the 10 Commandments by entering OP's room and taking out all their belongings? "Thous shalt not steal"
Story 1: My bio-mum did the same thing. She used to be a huge fan of the band 'Kiss', this was back in the 1970's when they were awesome. Now when I say "fan" I mean stan-level fanatic. I didn't have Barbie dolls, I had the Kiss dolls. I was young & we were dirt poor, but my bio-mum got everything & many doubles so we could have the same gear. I used to think she was so cool! Well, one evening I was off to a group for girls similar to the Girl Scouts or Girl Guides & when I came home the sun was already down as it was winter. As I passed the rubbish cans to get to the door I saw them overflowing with everything Kiss broken & shredded. My dolls, all our shirts, posters, even the records...everything. I ran inside to see her on the sofa, looking at the bible. When I asked what was going on she said she had been sitting in front of the stereo, listening to Kiss with her headphones on & she kept seeing a dark figure out of the corner of her eye. Every time she turned her head, the figure disappeared, then reappeared on her other side. She said this went on for awhile & that she started hearing strange voices saying evil things "under" the music. She was convinced it was satan. Let the carnage begin! Not only had she destroyed what would be considered collectables by today's standards, she also became an ass in every other area of life. My once cool bio-mum had turned into an abusive embarrassment. I stuck it out for awhile as I was a kid & didn't know what else to do, but one day things went too far & I told my teacher, who told the principle, who told the police & I was in a foster home by the end of the school day. Over the years I had made attempts to contact her to see if she was worth knowing & she wasn't. Finally a shrink told me that family is not just blood & toxicity has no place a person's life regardless of their 'title' within the family or friend unit. I've been No Contact with her for 28 years & I have zero regrets. The second I let her go, my life became fantastic. Seriously. Not to say I haven't had struggles, but I've handled life's challenges with my head held high. I have made my own family & friend units & we all lift each other up. Sorry this was so long, I just wanted to let you, or anyone really, know that when crazy happens it's okay & even better for you to cut them out. You don't have to forgive or forget to move on & have a great life.
I've got a story that relates a little bit to the first one. Not mine, but my grandfather's. During the Second World War, my grandfather worked as basically a delivery boy for Maarten Toonder, a Dutch cartoonist. Toonder created Dutch comics and comic characters that were popular for even decades after the war (Tom Poes and Olivier B. Bommel were well-known in the Netherlands). The comics would appear in the news papers, and thus had to be brought from his studio to the news paper office. Of each comic, a couple of originals were made (don't ask me why multiples were made: I don't remember why, but there was a good reason for it): one that Toonder kept himself, one or a few more that my grandfather had to bring to one or more news papers (I don't remember how many news papers featured it), and a couple that all the employees, including my grandfather, were allowed to keep. I believe the maximum amount of originals were only a handfull at most. Since my grandfather worked there during his teenage years during I believe almost the entire war, he had quite a collection of originals. And since he really liked it, he was keeping them in as mint condition as possible. Imagine having a collection of Marvel comics from the Second World War in mint condition, but not just the comics itself, but the original drawings of years and years of comics from just before they were send to the printer. After the Second World War, Indonesia began its independence fight against the Netherlands, and since my grandfather had now become of military age, he was send to the other side of the world. During his deployment his father (my greatgrandfather) died, and his mother started cleaning out his stuff. During her cleaning frenzy, she also threw out a lot of my grandfather his things, including his entire Toonder-collection. Years and years of original, pre-printed comics, were thrown in the trash, which my grandfather only discovered when he got home many months later. He was really pissed about this, and I remember him telling this story even fifty years after the war with regret that he didn't have it anymore. I'm sure that museums would have been very interested in his collection, if it hadn't been thrown in the trash in the late 1940s.
My parents blamed me for their divorce… My mom always ransacked my room and got rid of stuff she felt needed to. I grew up like that so I was used to it.
Randomly getting rid of your child's kitten at age nine is genuinely traumatizing. Getting them a friend to take care of and become attached to, only to tear them away without allowing your child to say goodbye or know they were leaving? Horrible. Those people should not be parents.
Hearing about the dog running after the car really pulled on my heart strings and goddamn those parents making jokes about the dog running after the car is absolutely disgusting
Stories 1 through 4: All of those parents are crazy/horrible people. I'll never understand why people do these things to their children. Story 5: I'm glad for that woman. OP's cousin deserves what he got, and I'm glad the woman managed to find someone better.
Once time I got my 2nd dog (labradoodle), and she was so cute and played with my chihuahua nicely. This was when I was in 6th grade (pre-covid), and my mom had gotten mad at my dog for trying to get some more food from my chihuahua. Well I can back home later that day, only to not find her. I ask my mom what happened, and she said that “Jade (the labradoodle puppy) ate a poisoned pigeon” and had to get put down”. I was crying so much that week. Well fast forward to what I believe was the year I got into high school, my mom accidentally lets it skip that she actually just left Jade in the mountains (we live in the high desert with coyotes.) I’ve never been more furious in my life.
The story about the little loving hamster really got to me. I lost my own hamster two weeks ago due to her having an inoperable tumor and I still miss her. To hear about a teenager wanting to care for such a lovely little pet, the brother being ok with it and STILL that horrible monster of a mother gave it away, and then that father making those jokes and telling how the hamster might have been eaten... Those people are horrible, sick, unfit parents and this is child mistreatment.
The comment that someone lost their marbles reminded me of a funny story. My father used to use a slingshot I got him with marbles to scare squirrels away from the house. Just scare them, hit a branch near them sort of thing. He couldn't always find his ammunition after use. One time my mom was visiting me and after an evening chat with him she commented that she needed to stop at the grocery store for him on her way home because "Your father has lost all his marbles." Adore that woman and her sense of humor!
Oh my God. The violence I would unleash on those parents in the second story... They would never recover. Never. If you, reading this, treat animals like that? Should we ever meet, I will break you. You, and anybody who tries to get me off you. That behavior is sickening to the extreme.
My mom and I did the complete opposite. When ever families were getting rid of or reselling their pet Guinea pigs, hamsters, hedgehogs, and even a rat, we would take them in or buy them. At one time we had like 7 Guinea pigs all in separate cages in the living room and 10 hamsters all in separate cages in the dining room, and a rat who also had her own cage. Not to mention 4 indoor cats at the time. We kind of made ourselves pet rescuers who took in the pets no one wanted anymore. And let me tell you, they were all treated better than some people treat their kids and lived out long lives. One Guinea pig lived to be 7 which is pretty old of Guinea pig years. Now I’m just down to a hedgehog 4 cats and a dog. My mom and her fiancé have rabbits, a couple of ducks, and I think 7 chickens. You could say we have had our very own petting zoo at times.
My father was always getting rid of my pets. He would tell me my cat got run over, my rabbit ran away etc. I always saw straight through his lies and he would go off if I called him on it. I was told off by my mum for upsetting him, we always had to not question him because he would throw a tantrum.
Story 3: The mother's doctor should be reported to the medical board. Two reasons: 1- If they aren't the OP's doctor, they shouldn't even know the OP doesn't have kids. They definitely shouldn't make comments about lifestyle choices. 2- The oath is do no harm, not do no harm to people with kids. Actively advising someone to do a risky medical procedure is a clear violation whether that person is their patient or not. Regardless of OP's situation with their mother, I doubt this is the first or last time this doctor will have given medically unsound advice. It's not about this one procedure. A doctor who behaves in this way is taking other chances and needs to be investigated.
Last story, I do hope OP's cousin's ex makes it known that she is HIS boss' boss. A bit of schaudenfreud (good God I know I mangled that as I can't remember its spelling and predictive text was no help) is always good for the soul.
I think we adopted a couple of dropped off kittens in the past. My husband brought home our first kitten, was found wandering around a mall parking lot. The kitten I saved had a collar on and it was getting tight on her neck so I loosened it so she wouldn't be strangled by it. It started getting colder I put a note on the collar but no one ever called. Over the years we never went looking for a cat but they found their way to us.
The story with the liver: No, just No. He could eventually ask for some outrageous compensation from his mom, if she wants that transplant. Like, "mom, you want my organ? Give me the house, after all, kids are a gift from god, so parents will do anything for them".
Stories 1 and 2: Those parents should have been arrested. You can't throw away someone else's possessions; last I checked, that was called theft! Story 2: Getting a pet is not a decision to make lightly. It should be a serious decision involving the household's *unanimous* agreement. Living, breathing animals are not toys! They are family members, and family is for life. Not just until it's inconvenient! Rehoming should be legal only when absolutely necessary: if you can't take care of the pet anymore, are moving to a pet-free apartment, etc.
My parents gave away my cat when i was 14. She followed me everywhere and actually came when i called her. One day i came home after school and she as gone. That was the last time i cried in my life and its been over 20 years now. But on a brighter note, i met a cat that resembled my old cat like 4 years later and i just called her name for fun and she immediately came to me and started purring. Since she had new owners i left her there.
That shitty drunk mom was exactly like my mom. She pretty much tried to disown me when I was diagnosed with epilepsy at age 11. She hated me before, but after that she wanted no part in my life. Its been over a decade since and she is finally starting to think that maybe I can have my own thoughts and my solutions for problems are good. Only because I have education to back them up, and the solutions to her problems.
Ahh hamsters..I had one as a kid..named him Xaxon. He was a cool little guy. One day, my parents had just rented Poltergeist, and right at the scene where they discover the pet had died, you guessed it, I find out Xaxon had died. One of those childhood memories that will never go away.
I had super abusive parents also. For the first story, I can totally relate to OP's shock of seeing her things gone and destroyed. My mother was already taking apart my room when I was 17 and still living in it until I left for school. She then stole money from my loans and barred me from even being able to visit her home -- the few times I did see it everything that was once mine was gone, even pictures of me from the walls. In the abuse, they also pulled the animal abuse card -- when my parents were married they abused my dog, killed my kitten, and killed my turtle. They also got me a dog and then returned her to the store a week later. The dog was supposed to be my birthday present. A few weeks later my father left and married another woman and had a completely different personality. It was all very wild and I hope the abuse victims in these stories can 1. find strength and learn from these experiences and 2. know it's not their faults they were abused by these family members.
@@lamarasawyer850 yes thank you -- going no contact and learning everything I could about: abuse, narcissism (covert and grandiose), borderline personality disorder, accountability, maturity, and regulating emotions (internally versus externally) was extremely helpful. Try to turn the whole thing into a learning experience and then try to learn more than just "some people are monsters" and all victims of abuse can come out ahead with the ability to heal... at least in my limited opinion. Thank you for asking -- stay well!
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These parents dumping pets in the country are ANIMAL ABUSERS and should be prosecuted!
One of our cats, who's since passed, was dumped near our rural property. About nine months old, had just had her first litter, beautiful black kitty. Never found the kittens so they kept them or the wild life got them. She was a wonderful cat and loved to hunt pest critters. I'll never understand why they abandoned her, instead of taking her to the pound if they couldn't care for her, but I'm glad we found her.
I absolutely agree with you there. A lot of bad things could happen to an abandoned pet such as being hit by a car. I mean if they *really* needed to abandon their pets they could at least leave them just outside a shelter.
Someone dumped a kitten, (who is now our cat) at the local 7-11. She was weeks old, tiny and filthy. Now she's a grown cat that is so precious.
I grew up in the middle of nowhere. My dad could never say no when we'd show up with a bag from near the river or a box from the woods. I think at 1 point there we had 7 cats and 4 dogs. My mom finally put her foot down when we found a pregnant pig tied to a tree and started calling the SPCA.
I wonder if they were doing it not because the pet was a burden, but specifically to cause pain to OP. Wait til OP loves the animal more than them (not hard if you are a toxic parent) and then get rid of it. Those parents are unhinged, and aren't fit to own animals OR have kids.
Story 2: If your parents do this then call CPS, Torturing one's kids is NOT a Normal Hobby
Although it wasn't physical, it was still abuse, though what OP said caused her to shut up. It was karma.....
I really totally agree. This kind of torturing the child by giving him/her pets then taking them away. That’s so totally horrible and it makes me want to cry for those abandoned pets and heartbroken children.
It makes me really glad that my parents actually love me and always have. I loved my pets growing up. Although I was never allowed a dog but I had a cat, hamsters, mice, and guinea pigs with particular permission to breed said guinea pigs by having a shed with several hutches inside.
We always found suitable homes for the various generations of babies but other than that and supplying the food and whatnot, I was totally responsible for these guinea pigs. I fed them, I cleaned their hutches, I maintained the shed after Dad assembled it. I’d research animal friendly wood preservers and asked my parents to get me a tin once a year.
They also supplied me with a large enclosure with a wooden frame and mesh so that every day so long as the weather was good, I could let them run and have fun on the grass. Indeed I soon learned if I moved the enclosure across the grass bit by bit they’d mow the lawn for us by eating the grass.
Ah memories. Once I allowed my favourite female to get pregnant but it was winter and I feared the cold would be a threat to the incoming babies so my mother got me a cage for her and I kept her in my nice warm bedroom. At about 6am one morning I was woken up by the mother giving birth. I watched her all throughout ready to wake my parents and rush her to the vet if anything went wrong.
But a while later I was looking adoringly at two healthy babies. Now, I was a child and while I was very responsible for my age I broke all the rules because after school I was reaching into the cage to gently stroke those adorable baby guinea pigs. By day three I was getting them accustomed to being handled.
By day five I’m able to have them out on my lap for a short amount of time. The mother, a result of previous breeding, was very patient with me. She always seemed to know I’d always return her babies before long. (I should add that I had a couple of friends and school aquatinces that sometimes lent me some of their males for a few weeks to allow me to use their bloodlines. Usually the “cost” was to give them first dibs on picking one of the babies.)
In time I was able to discern that they were both males. But that pair, I never had such tame guinea pigs as those. Likely because I had a lot of close contact instead of being reared in a hutch out in the shed. Even as adults when I let them out in the enclosure they were super tame. (Although I’d provided a hut for them and the enclosure was pretty sturdy, we did have a major fox problem and it wasn’t safe to leave them in the enclosure once dusk started settling in.)
So every other morning (I rotated which group was allowed in the enclosure that day and I admit my mother watched them while I was at school) when I opened their hutch and held out my hands they’d rush out of the bedroom area and leap into my waiting hands. And that in late afternoon I could just lift the lid of the enclosure, kneel down and they’d both stop whatever they were doing and ran willingly into my hands or lap. They learned the drill and knew when it was time to be either taken from hutch to enclosure or vice versa.
They were also very content to start out on my lap when I wanted to handle them for some cuddle time, then swiftly find a suitable gap between my trousers and fleece. Once inside under my fleece they’d cuddle up to me. Ah I loved those two. None of the others ran to me willingly. I’d usually have to corner them then return them to the hutch. But not these two. I adored them and even selected one for another generation of breeding. I was always fascinated with the breeding of guinea pigs with different colours and patterns of fur to see what was inherited with each generation. Perhaps it’s not a surprise I eventually went to study biology and genetics further down the line as an adult.
Alas eventually I had to stop keeping and breeding guinea pigs in the years leading up to university. I also loved the three cats I had growing up. It would have broken my heart if my parents took my beloved pets from me, especially during secondary school when I was heavily bullied. Without the modern internet and lack of social media the bullying never followed me home. The cats gave me a chance to be soothed by their unconditional love.
Even now as I approach my fourth decade I live alone with my current wonderful cat of fifteen years. She is good companionship for me and a source of love and affection. She’s well trained and knows several words of English so we communicate well. I love that cat so if someone tried taking her from me I’d probably go to war and the idiot would soon regret their choice.
Perhaps I have such empathy for animals and children because I learnt how to care for them and handle the responsibilities from my upbringing. I just can’t imagine parents getting rid of the child’s pets. It can’t do any good to a child to have their beloved pets taken from them. It would only deeply wound the child and cause a deep seated sense of anger and resentment towards the cruel parents. And that’s not even factoring in the damage done to the pet betrayed and abandoned by the ones they loved and trusted the most.
Yeah. It's not normal for parents to get rid of things that their children clearly love, like PETS
I had a hamster that died and then my parents did the thing where they went to the pet store and bought one that looked exactly alike. I think I had like 6 hamsters before I caught on..
Sadly enough beating your kids seems to be the normal. It's not a good hobby but sadly it's normal
"You're just saying that so you don't have to share"
"Lady, I don't need to fake an excuse because I don't _have_ to share a damn thing with you or your bratty kid. Now get lost."
I was chanting 'Chug! Chug! Chug!' at that point in the story.
I know this was like 5 months ago but the minute she said that I was thinking the exact same thing
"Lady, I have herpes" ... I think it would have done the job... maybe... hum...
Karen: "You don't seems like it. You fake it so you don't have to share!"
Crap... Karens are unbeatable! VIH maybe? With that, maybe the risk would have been grand enough to make her step back.
Is there a reason OP in the second story still talks to their parents? they said that the dad still mocks them about the hamster.... CUT TOXIC PEOPLE OUT OF YOUR LIFE......FAMILY OR NOT
When toxicity is all you know from birth it gets normalized and even when you see it it's hard to excise.
Literally "cut them out"?
@@Shinzon23 no. Figuratively. Cut them out. Meaning go no contact with them.
@@khendralibbey617 *sadly slides blades back into sheathes*
Okay....wow. That first story...
Okay, so I come from a family of devoted Christians, I myself am one too. I am also a huge anime/Manga nerd, a huge Harry Potter fan, and a mythology nut. And my family is a-okay with that. My mum is actually the one who got me into Harry Potter and encouraged my love for mythology. My kid brother got me into anime. And not once did we ever have any of that 'purging' or 'demon' crap. This mother is totally off her rocker. OP, move away ASAP
I'm a Wiccan. It isn't a secret but super religious members of my family all watch as I enter their church for family functions (baby or bridal showers weddings etc...) I swear to the Goddess they expect me to burst into flames upon entering the building lol 😆
My family is Catholic. Heck, my maternal grandpa was an active *deacon* til the day he died. Dad's a convert and a *HUGE* nerd. He's got a substantial collection of books on mythology, a whole *library* of fantasy and sci-fi novels, and likes to point out that the man who *invented* the modern fantasy genre was *Catholic.* I grew up on the works of Tolkien and Lewis.
Mom comes the closest to having that 'fantasy is the work of the devil' attitude, but only that she's uncomfortable with some aspects of the genre, probably from association with roleplaying games. Several of her college friends became obsessed with AD&D to the detriment of their grades and much of their social lives outside that tight group of friends. This isn't even Mom's version of events, by the way, she was rather vague about her concerns regarding my interest in AD&D when I was a young teen. I asked Dad about it, whose collection of AD&D books is what sparked my interest and was frequently the DM for the friend group.
@@Emeraldwitch30 lol
...I've found, through experience, that people who grew up with religion...be it parents or grandparents...someone close enough to where it was seen regularly...they rarely go so over the top with it. Mostly it's the mid-life crisis converts that do it. They seem to come to this strange conclusion that in order to make up for not having been religious they need to act the part of the zealot...like, somehow, the God they now worship will smite them for not having been a believer in the past. Generally...they hit that plateau shortly after converting then get brought back down to ordinary levels by the people around them because the overwhelming majority of religious folks aren't comfortable with fanatics. In short...OP's mom will most likely calm down in a short while once she starts hearing from her fellow churchgoers that she's lost her nut and needs to take it down a notch.
@@KingNicotine Listening to radio preachers doesn't help, as they tend to *encourage* that attitude. Which is *crazy* because the *Bible* says the exact *opposite.*
If your parents give away your pets, report them to child protective services as it is psychological and emotional abuse. If they abandon a pet, file a report with animal control, as it's animal neglect.
I don't think you can call protective service for parents giving away a pet. There are many reasons pets need to be given away it's sad but there are reasons. If they just dump the pets, let them run away then that is a crime I believe.
Sounds like criminal minds when that one agent whose dad was a serial killer wouldn't let her have a pet
@@BlahBlahBlahBlah69 there are many reasons but it doesn’t seem like the mom had any justifiable reason other than they hated seeing their kid happy and taking care of a living being
Like, if you don’t like animals don’t get them to begin with, but to wait for your kid to become attached just to rip the animal away when they’re not home and without telling them is cruel
And the hamster thing, the mom had no reason for that, as the brother wasn’t bothered, but she used him as an excused to once again rid of another animal that was being properly taken care of by op when she didn’t have a problem with it when the brother was neglecting it 🤷♀️
Like it’s clearly to spite op which yes, is abusive and could be reported
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 your idea is fukn comical. Nothing will happen.
As someone who was abused daily and didn’t get out until I lied to CPS at 16 years old, they won’t do jack shit. They don’t care.
That first story once again showing nutcases that give the rest of us Christians a bad rep. Makes my blood boil.
Same
I was already having my blood boil with the second story, hearing about how heartless those parents were to constantly give away their child's pets without their permission, and then turn around and get crazy when it came to their own pets.
And then we get to the story from the comments... and now I find myself hoping I can get a time machine and the personal details of that dad, so that I can find him as he's driving away, drag him from the car, and break his body as much as he broke his child's heart and that of his child's pets.
Take me with you please, I need to break his bones one by one to calm down. If I ever witnessed someone abandoning a dog, I seriously think I could snap
I hope you find that time machine and either change the past or find a mind-eraser so that story from the comments dissapears from my memory.
@@riel4553
If I were to change the past, it would be to bring all those animals to the present and drop them right at their owner's feet, maybe while his "forgetful" dad is next to him, and then look that man in the eye and say "If I had to choose between saving an animal like you and animals like them... I'd save the one that actually loves your son."
Koishi: My big sister wishes to join you humans too. She says something about mental attacks but none of my business
I'm not even sure killing them, and sending them to hell would help either
I'll tag along, justice needs to happen
any ideas for torture?
My parents used to do that with my pets, too. I promised myself that I would never do that to my child, so we've had a cat for 16 years now. We got her when my daughter was 1 1/2 years old and she's about to be 18. I couldn't imagine giving her a revolving door of pets like my parents did to me.
Thank you for not doing what your parents did, by which I mean not passing your trauma onto your children.
So, why DO parents do that?
@@Mithcoriel The movie Lassie. Or experiences of their parents doing that to them. Basically a feeling that their child should go through the same trauma as them.
@@chaosstripe9446 Whoa, that's messed up. I didn't know parents consciously decide to make their kids as miserable as them.
I was given a Boxer/Ridgeback cross puppy when I was about 11. He followed me everywhere and would protect me by just showing his teeth and growling softly. After about two years he started roaming the neighbourhood and my parents decided it was too dangerous for him. One Saturday my dad, our minister and I went for a drive with my dog. I little realised that they were taking my dog to a trading store in the country to be a guard dog. When I realised what was happening I was devastated. My companion was gone and I never saw him again. After all these years (I'm 74 now) I still miss him.
In the magical pre-covid times this happened to me. I was at a theme park with my family, just chilling on a bench while they were on a water ride. This woman comes up and asks for my drink for her kid and when I told her she could purchase a fresh one at the booth roughly 30 feet away from us she got pissed.
After a bit of back and forth the kid grabbed my drink and ran off with it. The mum said something like "see that wasn't so hard was it?" I let out an overdramatic sigh and said "no, but you'd best be getting him the a&e because I have HIV and we just shared saliva" (I do not, but it was the first thing to come to my mind. Also am aware its not transmittable through saliva but this woman was pig shiz dumb) she screamed, ran to her kid, started screaming her head off and threw the drink in my general direction.
She was screaming about her baby being infected with aids and that I intentionally gave her kid aids. I just walked away while she was having her panic tantrum. She was still screaming when my family got off the ride.
My cousin asked me what the screaming was about, I simply told him Karen doesn't know the difference between aids and HIV, nor does she know HIV is not transmittable through saliva. My sister said I went too far but brat stole my drink, he deserved his day ruined when his Karen of a mother could have bought one herself for £2.75 30 feet away. Best £2.75 I've ever wasted
Lesson time. Whenever someone "wants" something of yours, whether food or drink, your hat, something in your shopping-cart, *PREPARE.* Someone's gonna make a grab for it. Be ready to grab fingers and bend them back. Be ready to slap *hard* right in the face. Be ready with a super-tight grip on your goodies. Whatever.
Well over a decade ago, I was with my cousin at a neighborhood street-fair. Close off the main drag, have food carts and other vendors, that kind of thing. He had this bottle of "Orbit"(?), a clear sody-pop with candylike things floating around in it (tasted nasty, but look kewl). Along comes The Karen, and equally karenny brat in tow. The Brat sees the Orbit, wants one. The Karen doesn't ask, but demands to know where to get one. "Over by the XYZ." "Oh, that's too far, give him yours."
We both look at each other with this "wtf??" expression, like did The Karen actually demand he give The Brat his drink? Apparently so. He just looks at her and smirks, "Yeah, right, THAT'LL happen...". Oh nonononono, that flicked the MegaKaren switch, and she YELLS at him as if he stole her kid's drink and again DEMANDS he give it to The Brat. We both turn and start walking in the opposite direction, but he knew what was coming. Sure enough, the kid comes from behind, GRABS the bottle HARD, first with one hand and then with both, twisting it back'n'forth, and tries yanking it away from my cousin. Not only is he hanging on to it with a deathgrip, but takes his free hand and slaps the kid HARD right across the face and sends him flying.
I thought he clenched-fist punched the kid, but nope, it was a slap. Of course, The Karen starts yelling her head off, calling for the cops, etc., but people who saw the previous commotion saw and were still watching, also saw the kid making the grab, started shouting her down, saying, "Gohead and call the cops, and we'll tell them what your little THIEF was trying to do!".
This one woman was just staring open-mouthed at the whole shiitshow and not saying a word, until she came to and then just started laffing at The Brat.
@@joeschmo622 good on your cousin! you'd better believe I'd be back handing a Karen if she pulled something like this, but unfortunately slapping kids under 16 is not good for my future career goals so slapping Karens has to be my limit there 😆. Fake giving him HIV was enough for me lol.
Good on ya, mate. Shoulda told Karen you was LGBT-BBQ-CBGB-OMFUG. Karens HATE exposing their li'l failed condoms to "Teh Ghey"...
@@chezsnailez I'm British, its a 50/50 on whether the alphabet will work here.
@@ava-rosekerr9811 ~ well... maybe just drop the whole BBQ-CBGB-OMFUG part...
(for those of you not in the know, CBGB-OMFUG was a popular 1970s punk rock venue where The Ramones, Talking Heads and Blondie, amongst others got their start or played often)
This poor girl. Get out away from that, Robin. She’s gone wacky and it has to be something deeper. Can you live with your father? I’m hoping the best for you. You don’t deserve what’s happened to your belongings, it’s wrong.
Religion = Fucking psychopaths
Hating Religion = Normal people
@@RuinEx279 Stow it, atheist. Not all of us who believe in God are as completely unhinged as that OP’s mother.
@@Renville80 I walking in both shoes so yeah people like op mom r 95% of the world's religious people
She needs to press charges. Make an inventory and file a report.
@@Renville80 Duel Inferno spoke of religion, not belief.
Wait, the third OP is at higher risk for a liver transplant surgery, yet, his family tells him to do it anyway because "who cares"? That's basically like saying they don't care if he/she dies or not.
I guess OP has a crappy family, rather than a crappy mom.
@@robertnelson9599 She probably lied to the family, or told them it was like a .00001 percent chance increase of death.
I'm tripping out over the doctor. What kind of doctor says something like that?
@@Devillin that's okay, one told my mother in law to let her newborn die. His name fittingly sounded like "Hater"
@@Devillin Yeah, that's kinda sus. If it was actually said that doc should be reported to the medical licensing body. OP should NOT give up her liver.
My mom was just like that, always getting dogs and getting rid of them within weeks, including my turtles and cat. Can really sympathize with the first story.
Same but my mom gave them away too save their lives. My dad was physically abusive, and when he tossed my last cat out (literally threw her up into the air and outside into the concrete patio), my mom stopped getting us pets. Somme parents just really suck.
=big hug=
@@KatRo13834 Where does he live? I just want to talk
Then I guess it's time to get rid of the parents.
My dad always managed to get rid of my pets when I was growing up but at that time, both parents would claim they didn't know what happened to the pets, that they must have just run off. Finally after I was an adult, my dad admitted to getting rid of all of my pets. When my dog got old, he even admitted to taking him out to the country and throwing him in a ditch to die. Never spoke to him again before his death many years later.
@@mom5catskyle596 sorry for your loss of fur babies.
Imagine getting blamed for your parents' divorce.
And by the parent
It hurts, does a lot of damage. Worse was the years of "no, I didn't mean it" then when I was disowned "you're just like your father" and blaming me for acting just like him (despite not) and causing disruptions all my teen years because I was just like him. Some people cannot be reasoned with, and unstable middle aged women going through an identity crisis will lash out just because. But hey, mom's minus her eldest daughter now forever, so good for her lightening that load.
@@Undomaranel i got the “you’re just like your father” from my mom. My dad had killed himself when i was two years old.
@@RobertWilkinsonJKekMaloy I’m so sorry. That must have been so painful.
It would definitely make pressing charges much easier. She needs to press charges!
Story 2, those parents that get rid of pets are bad enough, but dumping pets out in the middle of nowhere is just plain evil. Those people should suffer pain unending.
The little bit about the dog chasing the car and the dad making fun of his daughter while she's crying made my stomach drop
Reading that, I felt like wanting to beat the crap out of that sad excuse for a "dad". That OP should go NC with those terrible people.
And giving the hamster away to a guy that eats them too
@@lacko623 Nah. Just take him to the middle of nowhere and leave him there to die of hunger, thirst, and exposure.
@@danacarpendersketoloworno2043 just need to tie him down to four heavy posts, crack his chest and spread it open first...
As a mom, if I ever need an organ transplant I would never ask one of my kids to give me theirs, especially if it’s a permanent loss, like a kidney or lung.
What if one of their kids needs a transplant? Make the sacrifice for your kids, not your mother.
Also since the mom drank her liver to death, is she even eligible for a transplant? I know alcoholics, smokers and drug addicts aren’t even allowed on the waiting lists
...to the best of my knowledge current alcoholics, smokers and drug users are eligible for transplants...but they're the back of the line...bottom of the list...they may get a transplant in the miracle event that they manage to get through everybody else on the list. Secondly...a part of the liver is a permanent loss...your liver doesn't grow back what it lost.
Lastly...and mind you this only my opinion...I'm having a hard time buying this one. I mean...it's the perfect storm...even the doctor is telling her she should do it because "she doesn't have kids"? I'm fairly confident no doctor would try to pull that line on someone. Another thing...notice how OP makes mention that she has a particular lifestyle and doesn't want kids several times through the story? It's almost like she absolutely NEEDS people to validate her life choice for her. Unfortunately...the way I'm seeing this one...it's a fabricated story so OP can get pity points...that's all.
Alcoholics usually are at the very bottom of the list, if they're on it at all. Given the past history, I'd tell that mom that I don't even care what happens, you're not getting my liver or anything else from me. She drowned one liver in booze, she'll do it again.
@@KingNicotine yes it does.....the only organ that will
@@dperry19661 ...you are correct...I, for some reason, was thinking of the kidneys. My mistake.
They only take a portion of the liver - like one lobe - for a transplant with the expectation that donor's liver will regenerate the removed portion and the transplanted lobe will regenerate the rest of the liver in the recipient's body. Liver's gonna hafta so a lot of bench presses to get stuck in that cask-o'-Akvavit of a mum...
The story about the kid at the festival who stole the booze: I have a similar story, but it takes place at the yearly county fair in my town. I was around 8 or 9 when this happened, so I can't remember everything but I DO remember my Step dad's interaction with this Karen VERY well. My mom, step dad and myself arrived at the Fairgrounds pretty early, because there was supposed to be an exotic animal booth that you could go to and take pictures with. My mom and I got a picture with a boa (I still have that picture and while my mother is smiling, you can see the terror in her eyes.)
My step dad wanted to get a picture with a red macaw named Mikey, and since my mom doesn't like birds I decided to be in the picture with them. The handler helped me and my step dad hold Mikey and as we got our picture taken my step dad asked if it was alright if I gave him some pets, and of course the handler said it was, as long as I was careful. I lightly petted his head and neck, the big guy made a few happy squawks before pulling out a feather and putting it on my head. The handler was very impressed, because Mikey apparently hated giving away his stray feathers, so him willingly giving me one was a real treat. I was really happy, and used a hair clip to keep it in my hair.
Well...enter our wild Karen and her tiny hellspawn. (I want to make it clear I don't blame the kid, he just happened to have a real Karen of a mother) Karen and her son had been in line behind us, loudly complaining that it was taking so long to get through the line, while her son was happily bouncing up and down wanting to see the "big birds" as he called them. Well my step dad and I finished up, I said bye to Mikey, and thanked him for the feather. We left and all I heard was Karen sigh dramatically as she pushed her kid forward with a loud huff of, "FINALLY!"
We thought it was over but an hour or two later I was fixing the feather so it wouldn't fall out when out of nowhere I heard a loud, "YOU!" I turned and Karen was stalking towards us with what I can only describe as pure unhinged entitled rage. My mom had gone off to get us some food, so my step dad decided he needed to keep himself between this crazy woman and me. He simply asked her, "Can I help you?" And she immediately snaps, "Give my son that macaw feather, he loves birds and none of them would give him one of their feathers!"
Confused, he just states that it's my feather and he's not going to make me give it to her. This pissed her off BIG TIME and she tried to shove him away to get to me while screaming, "She doesn't need it! She doesn't even like birds!" Of course I get immediately scared and start clinging to my step dad because some random lady is trying to grab something out of my hair. Luckily, my step dad was VERY protective of me and threatened to call the cops over if she didn't leave his daughter alone. (It wasn't the first time he called me his daughter and not his step daughter, but it sticks out in my mind as the first time he went into "Overprotective father mode" so it's a happy memory of him in the end)
This seemed to make Karen snap out of it, however briefly, and she simply snapped, "Selfish little cunt!" as she stormed off towards what I assume was her husband who was watching their son a little ways away. I lost the picture of my step dad and me holding the macaw a while ago, still searching for a copy of it but not sure it exists, but I still have the memory of that night as one of my favorite memories of him.
People mistreating animals, especially just getting rid of them like they _aren't_ thinking and feeling beings, is the one way to make me furious enough to hurt someone.
about the same people who bought vegan dog/cat food and the companies amking those meals.
We found a puppy who stayed with us for 16 amazing years and my brother brought home a cat that last 21 years before being put down. Those two were my entire childhood, and I couldn't imagine life without them.
@@lemmymaster Many years ago -- like, in the '80s -- I went to a Peace Fest in Chicago. There was a table there of animal rights literature, including flyers for some supplement -- I assume taurine -- that would let cats be vegetarian and not die. I said to the lady behind the table, "So you really don't like animals, huh?" She was puzzled. "No, we *love* animals!" "Then why aren't you okay with them being what they are?"
A few years later I knew a couple who decided their cat should be a vegan. A sadder, sicker-looking cat you have never seen.
@@danacarpendersketoloworno2043 I hope you reported your aquaintance to the police for animal abuse?
Robyn can (and should) require restitution for the destruction of personal property. Older DVDs can be quite expensive, she might have just committed a felony if she "purged" enough items.
You know it is unlikely any court will accept a charge against the mother, much less allow a conviction. OP's best move is simply MOVE ON. If mom has a mental/emotional issue all you can do is hope she gets professional help.
@@davidkermes393 That mom would never admit having any problems. Control freak holy-rollers will do that know-it-all, never-wrong, "devil purging" crap and blame everyone else for whatever happens that they perceive as bad. She likely lost her job because she pulled that whackadoodle stuff on people at work. I'm inclined to think that her 'church" is actually a cult.
@@davidkermes393 Oh so the mom is allowed to STEAL from her child now essentially?
Emotional problems or not THEFT IS THEFT. And what the mom did can CLEARLY be considered teft.
First story, Mom has definitely been sucked into a cult. It is a hard thing to have to disown a parent, but for your own mental health you should go as close to no contact as possible, and place her on a do not inform list ( or whatever terminology they use for it) with your school, which will keep them from divulging information about you to her. Cults live to suck people in, and she will eventually try to draw you in as well using whatever gaslighting and manipulation techniques they teach her. Your instinct will like be to try and bring her out of it, but it would take literal years of your life, as well as an utterly ridiculous amount of money, to get her declared incompetent, get guardianship of her, get her into a mental health facility that specializes in deprogramming, all while guarding yourself from her and her cult overlords (because they frown on people getting away and exposing them). This is not a burden that you should have to shoulder.
I wrote a comment asking if she joined an MLM lol! They're just commercial cults, so you and I are definitely thinking along the same lines!!
Colleges can't disclose any information on an adult student without that student's permission. At least not in the US.
@@MegaMunchy That may be true, but with the number of stories of parents manipulating or forcing their way into schools/hospitals.........
Yeah, I was thinking a thoroughly brainwashing cult (less likely, they usually want you to live among the cult if they're going that far, from what I hear) or a psychotic break. That kind of complete change in attitude and beliefs is not exactly normal...especially the 'your things drew demons into the house' part O_o() That part reeaallly kinda screams paranoid schizophrenic to me, but what do I know, I'm not a psychologist...
The only difference between a mainstream religion and a cult is the number of entrapped victims.
In the first story, I don't think the mother needs God, I think she needs a psychiatrist.
And a straight jacket and padded walls. She’s taking her bs out on OP and her ex because she doesn’t want to take personal responsibility.
@@LunaP1 as someone who believes in God. I don't think he had anything to do with that crap show 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ I think he might have even been looking down like what the heck is she doing.
@@Shywest2010 for real 🤣
And jail time with a side of small claims.
She needs God, a psychiatrist, and a reality check.
Story 4: Even if there wasn't any booze in there, you never take a drink from a stranger. Taking a drink from someone else either results in getting a liquid you'd never expect, or a bacteria/virus
from the description of the contents of that bottle, I think we could reasonably assume it was self-sterilizing
😂😂😂😂
I know, right? Just thinking about the backwash in there makes me nauseous! Who thinks it's ok to drink out of some stranger's drink let alone give it to your kid?? The absurdity of the situation is just unbelievable!
@@PeterShipley1 lol!
@@PeterShipley1 The kid's actions could easily wind up in a self-sterilization incident in the future if he doesn't clean up his act, sure, but having non-medicinal alcohol in a bottle doesn't necessarily sterilize the outside of the bottle.
I once was at a friend's house, and grabbed a cup full of clear liquid, thinking it was water. The second it hit my lips I nearly dropped it.
It was laundry detergent.
Story 1: OP needs to move in with her' uncle and sue her' Mother for loss of property because this is WRONG on so many levels, again Entitled Religious Karens ruin lives in the worst possible ways
I really don’t know what to say about the first story after she removed/sold the daughter’s stuff. I think the religion thing tended to be an excuse for selling the stuff.
Don't forget the need to beat the delusion out of their mom.
@@mikoto7693 not selling the op said she threw away and donated everything which somehow to me feels worse because op can't even get the value of the items without going to court because she treated it all like trash and hand-me-downs
@@mikoto7693 Yeah. I know some religious people think that any kind of non-religious fiction is evil, but they're *nuts.*
I'm Catholic and the only member of the family who comes *close* to having a problem with fantasy is Mom. *Just barely,* it's more that she prefers sci-fi and is a little uncomfortable with magic. She was fine with us reading Harry Potter, but read it herself to make sure there wasn't anything untoward that we weren't telling her. She ended up *enjoying* the books and half-jokingly beat herself up for it.
She was also reluctant to let me play AD&D, but only because several of her college friends had become legitimately obsessed with the game and she knows I have obsessive tendencies. And I know the friends really were unhealthily obsessed because I asked Dad about it. He's the one who *introduced* me to AD&D and was often DM for the college friend group. He explained how the obsession happened and the effect it had.
Beyond that, my parents would *never* throw out or sell my stuff without asking me. Not even if it was inconvenient to store. There have been several times when Mom was in a 'clear out the house' mood and *called me* to ask if some specific item was mine or if something she knew was mine was something I wanted to keep because it'd been in storage for so long. If there was stuff she didn't want in the house anymore, she'd *tell me,* put it in a box, and hand the box to me next time I visited.
She's *wanted* to throw out Dad's collection of National Geographics for as long as I can remember because there are *so many of them* and Dad hardly ever touches them. For the longest time, they sat in a stack next to the chimney in the attic, which happened to put them above Mom and Dad's room. She's often said she expected to find a National Geographic sized hole in the ceiling one day. She hasn't done anything, though, because Dad doesn't want to.
I would forced her to pay for throwing my stuff away and if she won’t harm her
Next time a Karen demands food or drink from you, just open with "I have *insert transmitable disease*. You wouldnt want my food/drink."
Or open the lid and spit in it. Hand it over. There ya go.
I mean you could, but I betcha anything the Karen would just accuse you of lying (which yeah in this case you would be) and continue to demand your personal drink. To better combat this I would recommend the following, “sure you can have my drink. But what’s this I see floating in it? A piece of dust… Let me get it out real quick…” /spits into the bottle and then hands it to her smiling/ “Here you are. You still want it, don’t you?” As gross as that is I guarantee nobody not even the most stubborn of Karens will want your drink after doing that.
Just pull an "I have extreme syphilis?" I mean I'm down
For the mom wanting the liver, I'd have told the doctor, "well she's old and had a good run"
Story 1: For your safety, go no contact until she apologizes and see if a relative will allow you to stay with them when you're home from school. What's likely happened is that your mother got a bit "empty nest" and was likely drawn to a church group because she was lonely and the bad ones prey on that and create a sense of belonging. I say bad here because it sounds like her newfound faith is giving her an excuse to blame all her problems on other people and the devil rather than take a realistic look and account of her own actions. She does not need to be talking to you until she seeks some therapy and apologizes -- and that is the bare minimum.
File charges. Go to small claims. Forget that momster ever existed.
First story: “Purge her brother’s house, his house…” surprised she didn’t get decked!
Not knowing her place story: bye, bye. Don’t let the door hit you where the good lord split you!
Donate a liver story: shocked that the doctor even said that to op! 😠 And how do you know that in a few more years, she might WANT to have a child - yeah, family 😒
Coke story: and you’re suppose to “share” why? Just because the refreshment stand doesn’t have it gives you permission to swipe things from complete strangers? Be glad it wasn’t spiked with more than just whiskey.
Honestly if the doctor called back to my decision I would tell him no and you can relay that to everybody that they're feeling salty then they can be no contact which is preferable I do not want to be invited to the funeral! And oh yes please be mindful of what comes out of your mouth because the thing you said to me last we met seems the type of thing a doctor loses his license over along with getting a lawsuit that would not be surprised if I look up the local news of the area and find out that actually happened to you! So buck up Chum. Have yourself a good day :-) and then hang up on him I don't even want a response!
Story 1: Mom needs to get some mental help.
Story 2: Thats child abuse. My family NEVER and I mean NEVER gave up on an animal. I come from a family that runs an English Bulldog kennel so yeah. The only pet I've parted ways with without burying is a cat I had to re-home named Jetty who was starting to pee on my at the time infant son's stuff. But I made sure she was taken care of and put into a happy home. I miss that black cat.
Story 3: GO NO CONTACT!
Story 4: Heard this story a few months ago. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Story 5: Karma exists.
That first story is what you would call "sudden personality change".
She doesn't need god, she needs a psychologist. Legitimately.
Good to see I'm not the only one thinking psychotic break.
Agreed religion is the biggest sin/scam of them all
@@jakefox589 depends. Religion is used for good and bad. Depends on group or person. Science is used by bad people to but are we going to say all science is bad? Of course not.
No. I think that she needs to read the Bible and go based off what it says.
@@jakefox589 christianity is good. Unfortunately people are giving us a bad name by going against what the Bible says and being judgemental and hate filled. The Bible says to love thy neighbor and if you judge then by that same measure you will be judged
always tickles me to see how shocked parents are when the kids they have tortured through their pets decide later on in life to go no contact with them. Much truth to the saying, what goes around comes around.
Story 1: Depending on the price of the items thrown away, You could file for theft charges. If you don't want to go that route I'd definitely go no contact.
Given the sort of things they were talking about, they could easily be talking thousands of dollars there. Manga are not cheap. Collectibles are less so.
If my religious mom had destroyed any of my warhammer models or other collectibles when I was in college, I would have gone nuclear as the combined purchase price of those models were already in the £4'000 range, and they are *ALL* customised, converted and hand painted by me...
@@SonsOfLorgar damn. As a warhammer player (off and on) that sucks.
Story 1: Are you sure she trashed everything? Out of work makes me think she SOLD everything and used a wacko excuse
Story 2: There is a special place in hell for parents like them. They gave those animals false hope. Especially the dog who chased the car, it didn't understand what was going on. Makes my blood boil just writing this 😡😡😡😡
That image is absolutely heartbreaking =(.
Everytime I hear a story of stuff being thrown away, my instance response is "just throw their stuff away on return" lol
Story 4: This reminds me of another story like this. But instead of whiskey, the bottle of coke was used to hold OP’s chewing tobacco that they spat out. And when Karen’s son took the bottle off of them, I’ll spare you the gross details.
Ohhhhhh, god, I remember that chew tobacco story. Horrific, yo.
Horrific, but a hard life lesson for the kid!😅
Gotta link to that story?
I wanna know how it ends.
Liver story: You would be surprised at how many messed up things doctors say and do, especially to the childfree. The childfree are not even viewed as human to many people, because who doesn't love screaming kids? Never mind on whether or not you may be passing on some horrible disease, especially if you are a woman, you need to have kids or you are "unnatural". I've heard that from a OB/GYN who I don't see anymore.
Yep! Especially when it comes to women's choice. A lot of women are physically and mentally traumatized by doctors.
That irritates me to no end. I'm not a woman but I can at least attest to the fact that all human beings regardless of gender are lives that should be considered precious. It's the one thing in this life you can't get back once it's gone so for a doctor to say that OP should consider it because she doesn't have kids whereas OP's mom does, well... OP's mom did her job and doesn't have kids to look after anymore. Guess what, she has nothing to lose either so if her liver fails and she goes away well...Too bad. OP's life doesn't matter less or more but the mom made her choices by excessively drinking. And as I said earlier in this post, we have one life to live and you can't get it back once it's gone. And her choices led to this fate.
Like...did the mom think OP would forget all the abuse and pain for 17 years that was done to them? "Oh you're my mother SURE" And the family saying OP didn't matter because they didn't have kids can go somewhere too. See if they're a match. Even if they are I bet they'll say no because their life is too important. Which is a valid excuse because we should all value our lives and take care of ourselves, but don't volunteer others if you yourself won't even offer it yourself.
In regards to the first story, this strikes me as a woman desperately trying to control the world around her, perhaps in response to the trauma of the divorce. Something happened that sent her over the edge. Religion is just how she justifies it. After all, if God says she can, who is anyone else to criticize? My brother is very much the same with his religion. I've avoided him for a very long time now.
One word: Hypocrites.
If a second word is needed: Zealots.
I'm all for people finding God and turning their lives around, but one of the biggest lessons Jesus taught was to love and accept others. That means respecting their property, too. If she wanted it out of HER house, the better (and more godly) action would have been to ASK OP to come get it.
The first story, I can counter OP’s Mom’s arguments with 4 words. “Thou shalt not steal.” This is an example of someone who gets too deep into their view of everything must be pure that they end up forgetting the 10 basic rules God laid forth in the Ten Commandments
Narcissists don’t know their children are people outside of them.
First story: Why do I feel that this "finding of god" is just an excuse to be as noisy, entiled and stole as much as she want for money? Because ANY religion inpose itself on others.
Because it is..... God isn't LOST so how can you say 'I FOUND GOD"?
They also use it to not get vaccinated as if any religion forbids vaccination
how can they find god, when they're the one's who are pushing him away
Sounds like she may have found or moreover caught charges. She needs to file a report.
@@icetweiz why is it him, why would it have genitals, who is it gonna F ?
Just because somebody has no kids does not mean they have to give you things. The doctor which I don't know why to even saying that is just beyond stupid. I definitely would call out the mother for dang sure if she was my own. Besides she will definitely drink for that liver down again. Also, you can't just use kids for something like that
We should stop thinking just because people are doctors that they are automatically good, compassionate people. They can be stupid, selfish, uncaring and dangerous humans too.
We all have only one liver. So, I am guessing they'd take half? Any more would be life threatening to OP. This isn't like donating one of our two kidneys. Mom had her run, she literally drank herself to this state. Too bad for her. OP is right to nope out of this situation.
@@lancerevell5979 The OP should report the doctor to the medical ethics board.
She went too far throwing out someone else's things
She needs charges and to reimburse for all items, and for the collectibles…replaced at current value unsealed.
@@___LC___ agreed and have her mother evaluated for psychological behavior
@@___LC___ Unfortunately, if the child is a minor, or even an adult living in her house, she may have the legal right to do so. If the adult is paying rent, then that changes everything.
Legal doesn't make it right.
@@rolandhansen812 That should be changed. It shouldn't matter the living arrangements. THEFT IS THEFT!
I love how the OP and parent in the last story feels an overwhelming sense of pride in simply KNOWING this amazing woman, and they're so glad that she didn't become their relation, because it would have involved marrying THAT GUY. Like, if she could have become their relation in any other way, they would have welcomed her with open arms, and they would have loved her so much, and claimed her as their own, and they even did, sort of, at the end, with that PRIDE in her accomplishments, and her joy in living, and ability to forgive.
I mean, it just doesn't get more wholesome than that.
Story 1: Yep, mom has gone bat guano crazy. Live with a relative, go full NC with the mom, and see if there is any legal recourse regarding all the stuff thrown out. Story 2 - Go full NC with the parents as soon as OP is able and if OP ever has to make the decision to put the parents in a nursing home, it will be a pit of a home. Story 3 - go full NC with any and all relatives pressuring the OP to donate. And tell the doctor, that his comments were (at best) insulting and dismissive and overall very unprofessional.
May I also add, Story 3's OP should also tell that doctor to not call again until it's grave-dancing time. Bear in mind, not funeral time, but time to dance on the freshly-filled grave with a bottle of whiskey and a boom box playing a dubstep remix of 'Ding Dong the Witch is Dead'.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 You have given this some thought haven't you. Remember to have enough hooch for other participants. Sharing is caring.
The first story really hits my heart. I was around the same age when my own mother started to act the same type of way but I was stuck in the middle of the whole storm. My father was injured badly in an accident and I was caring for him at home and had a rebellious 15 year sister I was trying to help keep out of trouble. My mother blamed and resented me for anything and everything. I'm so glad that you have the ability to take care of your emotional and mental health away from the situation. Mine drove me to an addiction from trying to self medicate. My mother was diagnosed with level one bipolar disorder after having a breakdown when my grandmother passed. This doesn't mean the same for you of course. I imagine the pain, confusion, and grief of the loss of your "old mom" is similar. I felt alone and you are not. Life does give you answers in time. I can now at 38, forgive her and can approach her with more understanding. Lean on the people who are there for you and take care of yourself. Set healthy boundaries and if you suspect she may need help then talk to your uncle about contacting a resource to help. She may be having trouble adjusting to life while you are away. She may feel alone too. Hugs and love from Vermont
Story 2 :- Oddly relatable! My parents did that to me too. The worst was a rabbit I got when I was 8. It was a pair with my younger brother but I was the one taking care of them. A year later his dies but mine is fine so my mom decided why should I be the only with a pet? She took him to her school (she was the principle) and had him stuffed while still alive... I still refuse to bring any living thing within her proximity! She's given away more puppies and kittens that belonged to my brothers and sister than I can count.
story 2: just straight up evil, they bought pets for the sole purpose of hurting their kids, they wanted their kids to get attached so they could rip it away and then taunt them over it for years. OP for your own sake please cut these evil people out of your life and never look back.
Op's mom had no right to do that while they were away just to purge her house of "demon" by removing everything that op liked is beyond entitled
Having dealt with religious relatives I can say that the whole 'attracting negative energy" and 'need to get rid of the demons' and blaming the kid for the failure of the marriage due to bad music and whatnot isn't normal Christianity. It sounds a lot like some of the 'Word of Faith' / WoF cult stuff I've had to put up with. It's a totally weird mix of new age concepts into all the controlling aspects of Christian cults and I hope she sees through it soon but I wouldn't hold my breath. Not that op would ever read it here, but the only advice I can offer is to get out of that house, even if you were a Christian because nothing less than total control of all activities and especially finances is good enough for that group.
I was thinking the Church of god here in our area. Almost out right cultists.
The stand on the street corner of busiest areas and bull horn their views at you whilst you drive by. Same group goes door to door too.
Pounded on my door for like the 4th time while I was showering. I came out in a towel worried there was a fire or something cuz after 5 minutes you'd think they would give up.
Nope they wanted to save my soul you know. I explained I was a Wiccan and wasn't interested in changing my religion
Had to drop the towel and ask if they wanted to join my religion. I worship in my skysuit under the sun and moon. They started sending only women to my door. I then actually hit them with the hose. Oops. I didn't see you there are you okay? Good thing its hot today.
Their next tactic you ask? They sent 2 young children to my back yard to preach at me while I was gardening. I fed those lovely littles all kinds of veggies and fruits all while waiting for CPS and the sheriff to come because I had 2 unaccompanied children just show up in my garden. Thirsty and hungry.
What pissed me off the most was those children were hungry and thirsty and looked like they hadn't had a decent meal in weeks. Yes they were clean but geez they were only like 6 and 8. Just little ones. I could have been a pervert for all they knew or cared. Putting their children in danger like that.
The sheriff took control took my statement the CPS actually looked at them and how they were still eating raspberries and strawberries and cucumbers and tomatoes out in my back yard and took them right then and there.
These Church folk no longer bother me and the sheriff told me I could put a restraining order on them to leave me alone if they ever pulled this again.
But come to find out. One of my cousins had joined their little cult and she told them all about her wicked Wiccan witch cousin. Thats why they would not leave me be. But oof! I know not all religion is bad but this was a head shaker
On the pet angle, there are a lot of assholes parents out there. My dad had let's dump a cat at exactly the way that the other ones did with the boys dog. 3 years later we were working on someone's house, and a cat walks up to me... The very one. It turns out that she kept walking till she came to a group of houses and his yard was the one that she selected to hang out in, and he brought her in the very day that she first appeared. I'm glad to say that she lived a long life with someone who really cared for her.
I cant imagine what it would be like for a parent to give away a pet like that. We love animals and keep them. Right now I'm still taking care of my son's senior kitty.
My husband mother passed away 2 years ago and his brother was going to just drop her cats off somewhere in the country or at the kill pound. He can't figure out why I think he's a POS
"Kids are a gift from God."
And the parents in these stories are gifts from Satan
Hey, Fluff. I had this experience myself. My late wife became New Age and Wiccan and demanded that I do the same. She was extremely emotional (she had lost touch with reality ... I didn't fully realize this until after her suicide) and this kind of conversion can be very uncomfortable for family members and close friends). So yeah, if OP can go no contact with mom, do it!
I am with the uncle of the OP in story #1. This sounds more like perhaps a mental break from stress - which is sounds like Mom has had a lot of, or a near-cult experience, or both. I wouldn't go FULL non-contact. But I would go limited contact, perhaps asking the uncle and the rest of the family to hold an intervention of sorts - OP's mother needs to know that she hurt OP, and how she hurt OP. It's not going to be easy on anyone, as Mom may not be at a point where she CAN listen, let alone is willing to. But it is just so hard to ever suggest going full non-contact with family. Family is so important, in my opinion. So yeah ... I would tell OP to talk to your Uncle, and work together with the rest of the family to help your mother with what she needs to have a healthy relationship with everyone. The worst thing is that your mother isn't ready for that yet, but you have a stronger relationship with the rest of your family to make up for it.
Every year I'm more convinced there needs to be a full mental and personality screening before anyone is allowed to have children
Shoot ya have to take classes and behind the wheel training and pass a test to drive. That should be the bar minimum to have kids
Problem is, especially in this day and age, such a system would be too easily corrupted. Say, to screen out potential parents who don't have the right political leanings, or who are religious, or whatever they decided they didn't want more of. None of which is an indicator for poor parenting. It could be a very scary form of social control.
@@salenlathgalintren4937 exactly, unfortunately we let the types of people who are corrupt run the system unchecked and unaccounted. So unless we the people as a whole put checks in place to keep corruption at bay then we'll never really be able to have working systems to protect children from their own parents.
You just can't trust people to control the basic human right of reproductive autonomy.
Once we fully accept that all humans lie and are corruptible through bribery, threats and narcissistic/selfish/psychotic characteristics, then we can put proper checks in place to keep accountability and consequences for tyrannical behavior.
Also rationality seems to be in short supply these days but I digress, I think there should be personality/character tests for leadership positions as well. But we would need to advance mentally as a species so control with money by the most pathetic of us doesn't run the whole world.
Because let's be honest, zuckerborg, bozos, most of our congress/leaders and all the rich faceless men/women that practically run our countries with their wallets are pathetic empty little people with nothing worthwhile inside that will die bitter and alone. But not before they set the world on fire to make the rest of us suffer along with them
@@salenlathgalintren4937 Well, we could certainly start by finally enforcing the first amendment and remove/prevent religiously-motivated laws, statutes, and codes. Once we finally re-establish America's Founders' intended secular precedents, we can get around to enacting/enforcing laws that protect children and the public. Believe it or not, holding a religious view does not give one the ability to break laws without consequence. If a 'religion' claims that child abuse is one of their core principles, that cult should be investigated and its members sanctioned. Religion is fine. Criminal activity disguised as religion is not. No one has the right to violate someone else's rights, regardless of their so-called 'religious views'.
As for political leanings, the Overton window of public discourse is indeed too far to the extreme ends right now. Certain things that shouldn't even be political have been taken up as political calling cards. However, politics isn't even the issue in the end. It's extremism. The extreme views on both far ends of the political spectrum are toxic and dangerous. Left-leaning or right-leaning, there are people on both extreme ends that should never be parents.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 people from both sides abuse kids, not just religious ones and that is a minority. I don’t know a single religious person who abused children and I know some who in fact saved several from suicide
I will state that I have heard stories of parents throwing let's say collectible items and the child successfully sues the parents. one particular person had a collection of Playboy magazines that his parents had to repay him for. "An Indiana man is suing his parents for getting rid of his vast pornography collection, which he estimates is worth $29,000." so I would suggest getting a list with estimates...
If someone took my dog away for no reason, I don't know what I'll do. I love that little goober, and I can't imagine not seeing him every day.
Story 4: Particularly considering the story was pre-Covid, even considering calling CPS on a parent for their kid taking a sip of someone's drink is insane. Demanding the drink is absolutely entitled on the part of the Karen, but people shouldn't be paranoid about every single possible exposure to any sort of germs. A friend of mine died a few years ago from falling down the stairs in his house and hitting his head on something...if he'd been wearing a helmet while walking around his house he probably would've been fine, but if you live your life worrying about every single thing that could possibly go wrong, you're not going to live much of a life. If you have a choice you should try to drink your own stuff, but if you're really thirsty and someone offers a sip of water, or you accidentally drink from the wrong bottle, it's not the end of the world. In the vast majority of cases you're going to be perfectly fine, and in the vast majority of cases where you're not 100% fine, you'll get a cold. Could you get something more serious? Yes. Could you fall down your stairs and die because you weren't wearing a helmet? Yes. Are those things likely enough to happen that you should overly concern yourself about them? Absolutely not.
This story is recycled. Read it before but in a different location, not holland. Bs.
@@Bangbangshelly These kinds of things happens everywhere.
My cousin and I were at a BBQ on the beach with some friends when some kid grabs the can of Fanta Exotic she was holding and ran off with it, barely 2 minutes after cousin told his mom he couldn't have it.
Note: My cousin used to be a heavy smoker and she was using the can as an impromptu ashtray.
I don't know what happened to the kid, but I sincerely hope he smelled the can before taking a nice big gulp of "Fanta Marlboro". :P
Oh dear, that first story!
I had a friend in elementary school who's mom was that sort of person.
She once claimed that it was MY mom's fault that she (friends mom) had no friends. Mind you they had never even met!
But apparently my mom transferred her bad energy to me, I transferred it to my friend and she transferred it to her mom. And voila, everything was my mom's fault and had nothing to do with the fact, that my friends mom was CRAZY.
Worst thing was; She was an elementary school teater 😖
The OP whose religious mom threw out her stuff should go full No Contact for theft. It doesn't matter it was "only" thrown out (even if the mom had initially purchased the items); any taking of personal possessions of another is theft.
add on to that OP's mom has the audacity to blame OP for her problems that right there is grounds for losing the privilege of being called a parent.
I happen to be Christian and I think the 1st Karen was a nut job , Harry Potter , anime and super heros are harmless fun
Taking away a child's pet for literally no reason and then joking about it is emotional abuse. Call CPS.
My first though about story #1 is that maybe the mom hasn't just "lost her marbles" but might actually be experiencing some kind of actual mental illness, maybe even with hallucinations or delusions, which could contribute to her being more susceptible to "religious mania" and manipulation by certain types of churches (they particularly like to make divorced women feel bad about themselves). I say this because I went through similar with my mom in my teen years, though she didn't go so far as to throw out my stuff. I sincerely hope everything gets better.
Thank you for that last story...I was beginning to get upset at the inhumanity I was hearing, especially when it comes to pets. My cats are family, and heaven help the person who tries to abandon an animal. I'm not very nice when it comes to that.
YAY!!! Whenever Darkfluff uploads, a Karen goes to hell!
I don't want Karens to hell.
I wanna be there is peace if it is a thing.
That last story is so uplifting! I've probably never met that awesome lady, but I'm proud of her all the same. I hope more women follow her shining example - not only to be successful and enjoy what you do, but to leave past wrongdoers squarely in the PAST, where they belong.
I say she's an inspiration to women, but guys can benefit from her example, too. God bless, yall!
My mom did that with my turtles I had for years. She made me go out and put them in the river so they were ‘free’ because her then boyfriend now husband hated them.
I sincerely hope you have verbally eviscerated her since then.
Jack-n-coke story... I can't imagine going to a "festival" anywhere and trusting the contents of someone else's beverage
The "mom" in the first sotry are the exact type of person who gives religion a bad name. Don't take me wrong, if you're religious, fine by me, go you. But please, don't shove down peoples throats. And also, technically speaking, didn't she break one of the 10 Commandments by entering OP's room and taking out all their belongings? "Thous shalt not steal"
That’s why she needs charges pressed and a small claims court…unless the amount calls for a higher court (depending on the collectibles, it might.)
Religion gives itself a bad name…many of the various “gods” are monsters.
Story 1: My bio-mum did the same thing. She used to be a huge fan of the band 'Kiss', this was back in the 1970's when they were awesome. Now when I say "fan" I mean stan-level fanatic. I didn't have Barbie dolls, I had the Kiss dolls. I was young & we were dirt poor, but my bio-mum got everything & many doubles so we could have the same gear. I used to think she was so cool! Well, one evening I was off to a group for girls similar to the Girl Scouts or Girl Guides & when I came home the sun was already down as it was winter. As I passed the rubbish cans to get to the door I saw them overflowing with everything Kiss broken & shredded. My dolls, all our shirts, posters, even the records...everything. I ran inside to see her on the sofa, looking at the bible. When I asked what was going on she said she had been sitting in front of the stereo, listening to Kiss with her headphones on & she kept seeing a dark figure out of the corner of her eye. Every time she turned her head, the figure disappeared, then reappeared on her other side. She said this went on for awhile & that she started hearing strange voices saying evil things "under" the music. She was convinced it was satan. Let the carnage begin! Not only had she destroyed what would be considered collectables by today's standards, she also became an ass in every other area of life. My once cool bio-mum had turned into an abusive embarrassment. I stuck it out for awhile as I was a kid & didn't know what else to do, but one day things went too far & I told my teacher, who told the principle, who told the police & I was in a foster home by the end of the school day. Over the years I had made attempts to contact her to see if she was worth knowing & she wasn't. Finally a shrink told me that family is not just blood & toxicity has no place a person's life regardless of their 'title' within the family or friend unit. I've been No Contact with her for 28 years & I have zero regrets. The second I let her go, my life became fantastic. Seriously. Not to say I haven't had struggles, but I've handled life's challenges with my head held high. I have made my own family & friend units & we all lift each other up. Sorry this was so long, I just wanted to let you, or anyone really, know that when crazy happens it's okay & even better for you to cut them out. You don't have to forgive or forget to move on & have a great life.
Religion is a person's personal beliefs. NEVER TO CONTROL OR RUIN ANYONE'S LIFE.
I've got a story that relates a little bit to the first one. Not mine, but my grandfather's.
During the Second World War, my grandfather worked as basically a delivery boy for Maarten Toonder, a Dutch cartoonist. Toonder created Dutch comics and comic characters that were popular for even decades after the war (Tom Poes and Olivier B. Bommel were well-known in the Netherlands). The comics would appear in the news papers, and thus had to be brought from his studio to the news paper office. Of each comic, a couple of originals were made (don't ask me why multiples were made: I don't remember why, but there was a good reason for it): one that Toonder kept himself, one or a few more that my grandfather had to bring to one or more news papers (I don't remember how many news papers featured it), and a couple that all the employees, including my grandfather, were allowed to keep. I believe the maximum amount of originals were only a handfull at most.
Since my grandfather worked there during his teenage years during I believe almost the entire war, he had quite a collection of originals. And since he really liked it, he was keeping them in as mint condition as possible. Imagine having a collection of Marvel comics from the Second World War in mint condition, but not just the comics itself, but the original drawings of years and years of comics from just before they were send to the printer.
After the Second World War, Indonesia began its independence fight against the Netherlands, and since my grandfather had now become of military age, he was send to the other side of the world. During his deployment his father (my greatgrandfather) died, and his mother started cleaning out his stuff. During her cleaning frenzy, she also threw out a lot of my grandfather his things, including his entire Toonder-collection. Years and years of original, pre-printed comics, were thrown in the trash, which my grandfather only discovered when he got home many months later. He was really pissed about this, and I remember him telling this story even fifty years after the war with regret that he didn't have it anymore. I'm sure that museums would have been very interested in his collection, if it hadn't been thrown in the trash in the late 1940s.
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My parents blamed me for their divorce… My mom always ransacked my room and got rid of stuff she felt needed to. I grew up like that so I was used to it.
Randomly getting rid of your child's kitten at age nine is genuinely traumatizing. Getting them a friend to take care of and become attached to, only to tear them away without allowing your child to say goodbye or know they were leaving? Horrible. Those people should not be parents.
Hearing about the dog running after the car really pulled on my heart strings and goddamn those parents making jokes about the dog running after the car is absolutely disgusting
Stories 1 through 4: All of those parents are crazy/horrible people. I'll never understand why people do these things to their children.
Story 5: I'm glad for that woman. OP's cousin deserves what he got, and I'm glad the woman managed to find someone better.
Once time I got my 2nd dog (labradoodle), and she was so cute and played with my chihuahua nicely. This was when I was in 6th grade (pre-covid), and my mom had gotten mad at my dog for trying to get some more food from my chihuahua. Well I can back home later that day, only to not find her. I ask my mom what happened, and she said that “Jade (the labradoodle puppy) ate a poisoned pigeon” and had to get put down”. I was crying so much that week. Well fast forward to what I believe was the year I got into high school, my mom accidentally lets it skip that she actually just left Jade in the mountains (we live in the high desert with coyotes.) I’ve never been more furious in my life.
The story about the little loving hamster really got to me. I lost my own hamster two weeks ago due to her having an inoperable tumor and I still miss her. To hear about a teenager wanting to care for such a lovely little pet, the brother being ok with it and STILL that horrible monster of a mother gave it away, and then that father making those jokes and telling how the hamster might have been eaten... Those people are horrible, sick, unfit parents and this is child mistreatment.
The comment that someone lost their marbles reminded me of a funny story. My father used to use a slingshot I got him with marbles to scare squirrels away from the house. Just scare them, hit a branch near them sort of thing. He couldn't always find his ammunition after use. One time my mom was visiting me and after an evening chat with him she commented that she needed to stop at the grocery store for him on her way home because "Your father has lost all his marbles."
Adore that woman and her sense of humor!
Oh my God. The violence I would unleash on those parents in the second story...
They would never recover. Never.
If you, reading this, treat animals like that? Should we ever meet, I will break you. You, and anybody who tries to get me off you. That behavior is sickening to the extreme.
I know that painful sting of my own stuff getting given away by my Mom. I constantly have to remind her that she has NO jurisdiction over my stuff.
I hate the “I raised you so you owe me” crap…like I wasn’t asked to be born you owe me for bribing me into a world without my consent 😂
We'll just send the money to _your_ parents seeing as how you never paid _them_ what you owe 'em...
I meant brining. And honestly that money would be spend on drugs…
@@chloeelizabeth2174 maybe you meant 'bringing'? dang spill czech...
My mom and I did the complete opposite. When ever families were getting rid of or reselling their pet Guinea pigs, hamsters, hedgehogs, and even a rat, we would take them in or buy them. At one time we had like 7 Guinea pigs all in separate cages in the living room and 10 hamsters all in separate cages in the dining room, and a rat who also had her own cage. Not to mention 4 indoor cats at the time. We kind of made ourselves pet rescuers who took in the pets no one wanted anymore. And let me tell you, they were all treated better than some people treat their kids and lived out long lives. One Guinea pig lived to be 7 which is pretty old of Guinea pig years. Now I’m just down to a hedgehog 4 cats and a dog. My mom and her fiancé have rabbits, a couple of ducks, and I think 7 chickens. You could say we have had our very own petting zoo at times.
I want to be that person. Every animal deserves a home. People suck.
OP as the parrot flew off be like:
(Sarcastically)
"Oh no the parrot, oh no get back"
My father was always getting rid of my pets. He would tell me my cat got run over, my rabbit ran away etc. I always saw straight through his lies and he would go off if I called him on it. I was told off by my mum for upsetting him, we always had to not question him because he would throw a tantrum.
I have a daughter who gave away my grandson German shepherd while he was in school. This caused a problem between them for a long time.
That dude who drove away abandoning those animals making jokes…just evil. Definitely worth taking him for a coffee.
Story 3: The mother's doctor should be reported to the medical board. Two reasons:
1- If they aren't the OP's doctor, they shouldn't even know the OP doesn't have kids. They definitely shouldn't make comments about lifestyle choices.
2- The oath is do no harm, not do no harm to people with kids. Actively advising someone to do a risky medical procedure is a clear violation whether that person is their patient or not.
Regardless of OP's situation with their mother, I doubt this is the first or last time this doctor will have given medically unsound advice. It's not about this one procedure. A doctor who behaves in this way is taking other chances and needs to be investigated.
Last story, I do hope OP's cousin's ex makes it known that she is HIS boss' boss. A bit of schaudenfreud (good God I know I mangled that as I can't remember its spelling and predictive text was no help) is always good for the soul.
The pet stories boiled my effing blood. But that last pet one is EXACTLY something my dad would do.
I think we adopted a couple of dropped off kittens in the past. My husband brought home our first kitten, was found wandering around a mall parking lot. The kitten I saved had a collar on and it was getting tight on her neck so I loosened it so she wouldn't be strangled by it. It started getting colder I put a note on the collar but no one ever called. Over the years we never went looking for a cat but they found their way to us.
The story with the liver: No, just No. He could eventually ask for some outrageous compensation from his mom, if she wants that transplant. Like, "mom, you want my organ? Give me the house, after all, kids are a gift from god, so parents will do anything for them".
Yup. 'If I'm such a wonderful gift, start goddamn acting like it.'
LoL "I don't remember doing that, and I don't remember making jokes while not doing that"
As a Christian, I hove Harry Potter, gaming statues (and some of them cost me $400! each!) and listening to rock music
2nd story: that parrot is 99.9% living in a better place with that with that karen a distant memory
Stories 1 and 2: Those parents should have been arrested. You can't throw away someone else's possessions; last I checked, that was called theft!
Story 2: Getting a pet is not a decision to make lightly. It should be a serious decision involving the household's *unanimous* agreement. Living, breathing animals are not toys! They are family members, and family is for life. Not just until it's inconvenient! Rehoming should be legal only when absolutely necessary: if you can't take care of the pet anymore, are moving to a pet-free apartment, etc.
My parents gave away my cat when i was 14. She followed me everywhere and actually came when i called her. One day i came home after school and she as gone. That was the last time i cried in my life and its been over 20 years now.
But on a brighter note, i met a cat that resembled my old cat like 4 years later and i just called her name for fun and she immediately came to me and started purring. Since she had new owners i left her there.
That shitty drunk mom was exactly like my mom. She pretty much tried to disown me when I was diagnosed with epilepsy at age 11. She hated me before, but after that she wanted no part in my life. Its been over a decade since and she is finally starting to think that maybe I can have my own thoughts and my solutions for problems are good. Only because I have education to back them up, and the solutions to her problems.
Ahh hamsters..I had one as a kid..named him Xaxon. He was a cool little guy. One day, my parents had just rented Poltergeist, and right at the scene where they discover the pet had died, you guessed it, I find out Xaxon had died. One of those childhood memories that will never go away.
Liver-demanding mom. Just. Say. No. AND stay away from her. Seriously, she sounds dangerous.
I had super abusive parents also. For the first story, I can totally relate to OP's shock of seeing her things gone and destroyed. My mother was already taking apart my room when I was 17 and still living in it until I left for school. She then stole money from my loans and barred me from even being able to visit her home -- the few times I did see it everything that was once mine was gone, even pictures of me from the walls.
In the abuse, they also pulled the animal abuse card -- when my parents were married they abused my dog, killed my kitten, and killed my turtle. They also got me a dog and then returned her to the store a week later. The dog was supposed to be my birthday present. A few weeks later my father left and married another woman and had a completely different personality.
It was all very wild and I hope the abuse victims in these stories can 1. find strength and learn from these experiences and 2. know it's not their faults they were abused by these family members.
I am so sorry this happened to you! I'm almost afraid to ask, but r u feeling any better now?
@@lamarasawyer850 yes thank you -- going no contact and learning everything I could about: abuse, narcissism (covert and grandiose), borderline personality disorder, accountability, maturity, and regulating emotions (internally versus externally) was extremely helpful.
Try to turn the whole thing into a learning experience and then try to learn more than just "some people are monsters" and all victims of abuse can come out ahead with the ability to heal... at least in my limited opinion.
Thank you for asking -- stay well!