D&D's Best Campaign Setting - Planescape (Lore video)

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    Dungeons & Dragons has seen multiple campaign settings developed using its ruleset and basic cosmology since its creation, but none of them strike quite the same philosophical chord as Planescape. Created in 1994, this setting serves as the anchor point for the Planar Multiverse of D&D Cosmology, delving deep into the Outer and Inner Planes, as well as providing us with one of the most fascinating fantasy cities of all time, Sigil.
    In this video I hope to introduce you to the setting that gave us Tieflings and Aasimar, that developed and expanded upon the multiple planar beings still being in use today, and of course that spawned the 1999 title Planescape: Torment, one of the best cRPGs of all time.
    I hope to create more Lore videos covering this setting in the future so I hope you will enjoy this one in particular. There's lots of material to explore, from the philosophically focused factions of Sigil to the Blood Wars and, of course, the many and varied planes, all unique and fantastic in their own ways.
    Thank you for watching!
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  • @ghoulkinggruul7345
    @ghoulkinggruul7345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    YES! It's downright criminal that we haven't gotten anything from Planescape in decades as its one of the most innovative and vast settings ever created.

    • @maxschreck9988
      @maxschreck9988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You cannot improve perfection.

    • @Idran
      @Idran 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To be fair, we did get the occasional Dragon article in the 2000s; the 3.x Modron article in Dragon #354 was amazing, and actually advanced the metaplot of Planescape a bit into the 3e era in explaining the Mechanus exemplar switch from Modrons to Fomorions to Inevitables
      And we also got Diplomacy in Dungeon #144, which was an _awesome_ planar-themed adventure that was very Planescape in feel, intentionally so
      But in general yes, it is a shame :(
      (There was also Beyond Countless Doorways, a Planescape spiritual successor book put out by Malhavoc Press in 2004 and written by Monte Cook, Colin McComb, Wolfgang Baur, and Ray Vallese, all old-school Planescape writers back in the day.)

    • @phaedruslive
      @phaedruslive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Given the tone of the culture vultures that have co-opted the game I'd expect a new Planescape to end up like some 18+ roleplay sim on Second Life. They'd remove all it's rough edges and replace it with androgynous sex appeal.

    • @Idran
      @Idran 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@phaedruslive ...what? I literally have no idea what this means. Like...what sorts of things do you think they'd remove? Planescape was a lot of things, but it wasn't _edgy_ . I mean, this is a setting where the ultimate source of power is getting people to agree with you about how things work. Honestly, the fact that it got into some deeper topics without getting into edgelord nonsense is _why_ I love it so much.
      And "replace it" with androgynous sex appeal? Have you _seen_ some of DiTerlizzi's art in Planescape? "Androgynous sex appeal" is already a an excellent description for a good portion of it. He drew some hot people, and plenty of them had an androgynous air about them. :P

    • @Tazirai
      @Tazirai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed. Tony DiTerlizzi's art nailed it for me.

  • @NOopulence
    @NOopulence 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Dark Sun would be another awesome setting for you to talk about in the future if you were ever interested. AD&D 2e had some great settings.

    • @joeycavazos4817
      @joeycavazos4817 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Mul race was an awesome race to play!!!

  • @Onionkid99
    @Onionkid99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Planescape and V:tM are my favorite things. The late 90s were pretty great!

  • @Daleksaresupreme1
    @Daleksaresupreme1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I love Planescape and all the old settings, Darksun, Spelljammer, Greyhawk, Mystara and so on, all of them except Forgettable Realms. It’s so frustrating that D&D has become so big in recent years but this particular aspect has been almost totally forgotten

  • @epicmetalwarrior5476
    @epicmetalwarrior5476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Expanding to D&D ? I'm in! I still remember the arguments of my succubus cleric about the nature of chaos and evil.

    • @krispalermo8133
      @krispalermo8133 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Had a AD&D bard with three .. familiars .. or watcher fire gen/ small element to keep an eye on me by a fire genie, Battor imp, and a pixie fairy. And the three argue like teenage girls. Why, cause the game shop DM and players though it would be funny. Why do some guys in their 20's play argue like their teenage sisters I don't know, .. stress relief ?
      Take a moment to make fun of their sisters ?

  • @organicketchup5171
    @organicketchup5171 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I haven't spent anywhere near enough time in the world of DnD as I'd like, but I'm so impressed by the sumptuous and endlessly deep, creative lore. It stands out in my mind as an example of of possibly the most brilliant fictional world.

  • @NOopulence
    @NOopulence 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Planescape is awesome. I remember reading somewhere that the factions in this setting was a response to what white wolf was doing with clans etc with vampire back in the day. Awesome content as usual dude.

  • @dietaube6898
    @dietaube6898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What a great start to what may become a phenomenal series of videos. Really looking forward to future videos about Planescape.

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much! These kind of comments are so sweet 😊

    • @Craig_Tucker48
      @Craig_Tucker48 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love your planescape videos!

  • @Tazirai
    @Tazirai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Funny thing is. I write horror based on Planescape, but existing on our Earth. My main protagonist isn't a Planar, but she spent a year on Carceri, and in a recent story read by Dr. Creepen, she just went back. I'm gonna follow as Planescape is my favorite setting alongside Ravenloft.

  • @johannmueller9660
    @johannmueller9660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I played in Planescape using Advanced D&D rules, with my group, and I was a triple class elf, Osallias [Levels were approx. Fighter 10/Rogue 12/Wizard 9] right up until 3rd edition was released. Converting him over to 3rd edition rules was a pain, and he lost a lot of power, but eventually I raised him up to level 20 [Wizard 10, Fighter 5, Rouge 5] before retiring him. At least until the Epic Level Handbook came out, and then things go more interesting [as well as getting into the overpowered Gestalt characters from the Unearth Arcana... I got away with playing Osallias using a triple Gestalt loophole, but that's another story.]

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A great use of the Rule of Three I’d I ever saw one

    • @krispalermo8133
      @krispalermo8133 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      3.5e Epic Level Handbook ?
      My shop just follow this system, ..
      2d4 =1d8
      4d6= 3d8
      4d10 = 5d8
      Once hd total that of a titan, then your PC is regarded as a titan to determine CR for encounters. And just regard everything as role playing and not xp gain.

  • @davidayoung11
    @davidayoung11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a pleasent surprise to get a D&D video, thank you very much!

  • @skeletonking4119
    @skeletonking4119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My eldest brother used to play it back to 2000.
    But I do believe our mother still kept his stuff of games in the old box along with metal gear solo games notebooks.

  • @seantracey9935
    @seantracey9935 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    About to run a new planescape game and needed to brush up on my lore. Awesome content!

  • @Posturtle
    @Posturtle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I remember being obsessed with the original Manual of the Planes but didn't see too much use for it until Planescape made the cosmology accessible D&D characters of all levels. I used to have all the sourcebooks in that series. That and Ravenloft, of course.

  • @NickNotas
    @NickNotas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Torment is still one of the greatest RPG games ever made. Here's hoping Baldur's Gate 3 can live up to the hype.

    • @phaedruslive
      @phaedruslive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I don't know... 5E Faerun doesn't quite feel the same. It's a bit like Disney's Star wars.

    • @Maehedrose
      @Maehedrose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      BG3 is going to be awesome, as the Early Access is already fantastic, but it's not the same setting and Faerun doesn't hit the same notes as Sigil and the Outlands.

    • @jordanmoore7340
      @jordanmoore7340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Maehedrose I agree. It's a different time, with stories written under different circumstances for different audiences. I'm trying to keep the Planescape magic alive in the games I run, but I'm not sure we'll ever see the same magic of Planescape again in any official material. I hope we will, but I'm not super confident.

    • @Maehedrose
      @Maehedrose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jordanmoore7340 Planescape is one of those settings to which my ttrpg campaigns frequently return, so it will remain alive as long as I am able to keep GMing - and hopefully, by the time I'm ready to retire, I'll have a niece or nephew ready to inherit my game collection and lead another generation in appreciation of these great settings.

    • @Revanchist
      @Revanchist ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@jordanmoore7340 In my opinion Torment: Tides of Numeners comes very close.

  • @KermodeBear
    @KermodeBear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember buying the Planescape box when it came out. At the time it completely changed my perception of what a role playing game could be. And that art! Immediately identifiable, evocative. I wouldn't have another major RPG epiphany like that until I bought that weird Vampire book and then, soon after, Werewolf, and Mage, and Wraith.
    You don't *need* to have games that ask big moral or philosophical questions in order to have fun. There's nothing wrong with the classic Knight in Shining Armor riding out to Rescue the Princess from the Evil Dragon, but I much prefer things to be more... complicated. A game built on top of these things at least leaves the door unlocked if you ever wish to open it.

  • @SpikeJet2736
    @SpikeJet2736 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really hope Larian does something with this setting. The gameplay in BG3 is good but my god did the setting bore me to tears. This gameplay with the Planescape setting would be amazing

  • @Jeremycook_
    @Jeremycook_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had the Planescape monsterous manual back in the day (still have it somewhere) that art is how I will always invision the demons and devils

  • @HouroftheRaven
    @HouroftheRaven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great video and wonderful news! Love your content on the World of Darkness, and I'm very excited about your coverage on Planescape! Although my favorite setting of DnD has always been Ravenloft (I even have a youtube channel about the lore of the setting), Planescape is also one of my favorites and one of the most unique, deep, and original settings for DnD.

    • @Maehedrose
      @Maehedrose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I learned to GM in Ravenloft, and it taught me a lot about how to construct and tell stories, but the vastness and possibility of Planescape are enough to nudge RL it into my second-favorite setting slot.

  • @cheeseburgerkid1329
    @cheeseburgerkid1329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ancient grognard here. I got a smokin deal on the Planescape box set in 97(I'm guessing TSR`s insolvency had something to do with that) and read the shit out of it. I read something from it every night for at least 2years. I think of it as The Big Leagues, even that 20th level fighter suddenly is engaging in dialog again. Weird.

  • @brockenwitch
    @brockenwitch 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great overview!

  • @maxschreck9988
    @maxschreck9988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I mean, it's no SpellJammer, but Planescape is dope as fuck.

  • @Idran
    @Idran 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm so excited for this series aaaaaaaaa

  • @grzegorz8670
    @grzegorz8670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    more Planescape pls

  • @rdqnev
    @rdqnev 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    let’s gooo! I might finally get into D&D properly.

  • @ganjaericco
    @ganjaericco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just to mention that it wasn't that he always lost his memories every time he died, it was when the shadows took him (or he died at the Fortress of Regrets).

  • @joeywall4657
    @joeywall4657 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man what an amazing walk down memory lane!! Thank you for your work 🤠

  • @endtimestcg5146
    @endtimestcg5146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you! Love the Planescape....Where can I find a Video where you bash Baldurs Gate?
    Loved that game too! And the Setting!

  • @UltimaSpark50
    @UltimaSpark50 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I personally find cosmic D&D to generally be much more interesting than the prime-material stuff (the outer planes in particular). Kind of sad that official material is relatively lacking; I've been trying to gather what planar homebrew I can find, though.

  • @tamlandipper29
    @tamlandipper29 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Respectful nod to all the morally complex RPGs made by Obsidian Entertainment. Don't froth up about this and not play Tyranny.

  • @joeycavazos4817
    @joeycavazos4817 ปีที่แล้ว

    This and Dark Sun, Dragonlance, Ravenloft, Forgotten Realms are my all time favorite campaign settings to play and run! Dark Sun Gladiators and Knights of Solamnia are m top two favorite classes

  • @tnntaronewsnetwork4514
    @tnntaronewsnetwork4514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d love to see more

  • @taniamohsen9417
    @taniamohsen9417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    for me
    planescape;tornement = bloodline 1
    so muuuuch good game

  • @vechcron
    @vechcron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Planescape is the second greatest campaign setting the Greatest campaign setting is Spelljammer

  • @sirdark1381
    @sirdark1381 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sigil was in 3.5e???

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      2e even!

  • @wellatleastimhere1974
    @wellatleastimhere1974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lmao he came out swinging

  • @misterecho2922
    @misterecho2922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best? I think thats in the eye of the beholder (pun intended) :) i myself is a Forgotten Realms fan one of my closes friend prefer Dark Sun. And alot of my old ttrpg friends are into Dragon Lance.

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh for sure haha! I *had* to make the title a bit clickbaitey ;) There's pros and cons with every setting!

  • @PungiFungi
    @PungiFungi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    99% of Planescape adventures are railroading scenarios that had the players be spectators than participants....and outcomes are often pre-determined no matter what the players do.

  • @sterlingwbishop
    @sterlingwbishop 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Planescape confirmed

  • @VGM00021
    @VGM00021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Silly Primogen, that's not how you pronounce Spelljammer.

  • @Blackferret66
    @Blackferret66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't care for the Baldur's Gate game because even early levels were a grinding slog. I was at 3rd lvl spending hours hunting zvarts trying to get to the level where I could get new quests when I just gave up.

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which is exactly why Planescape was perfect, it didn't have that! Which is also why I love it.

    • @tamlandipper29
      @tamlandipper29 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What? Maybe if you're a clothy, but you're supposed to be in a party. Also, do the damned quests to level up.

    • @Blackferret66
      @Blackferret66 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tamlandipper29 I was in a full party. And I did all the quests I could find that the NPC would talk to me about, asshole.

    • @Idran
      @Idran 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tamlandipper29 C'mon, this was crit people had about BG1 _when it came out_. Half the reason Baldur's Gate 2 was so good was because you weren't starting at level 1. I died more often to the wolves outside Candlekeep than to anything in Irenicus's dungeon.

  • @diegolikescode
    @diegolikescode ปีที่แล้ว

    The name... is ThePrimeagen.

  • @frankb3347
    @frankb3347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Planescape and Darksun were the best settings. I don't think either of them meshes well with the coddling nature of 5E.

    • @Idran
      @Idran 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      To be fair, the entire reason Planescape was created was to turn the planes from a "you will die if you go here" thing to somewhere where you could actually have adventures at any level. :P

  • @pleaseloveme117
    @pleaseloveme117 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s a weird way to spell Eberron.......
    This is coming from someone who just doesn’t enjoy DND in general. But Eberron I like.

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you’d like Planescape if you gave it a shot… except it’s mostly AD&D which is a painful experience hahaha

    • @Cynidecia
      @Cynidecia ปีที่แล้ว

      Eberron? Thats the weirdest way to spell Mystara i have seen all day?

  • @Cynidecia
    @Cynidecia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Planescape is a funny way to spell Mystara.

  • @brightglory5734
    @brightglory5734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That's not how you spell Dragonlance

  • @G2Bryce
    @G2Bryce ปีที่แล้ว

    Blah blah blah. I don't see any large breasted redhead tavern wenches, thus Dragonlance is still king

    • @Cynidecia
      @Cynidecia ปีที่แล้ว

      Dragonlance is a funny way to spell Mystara.

    • @Ryu1ify
      @Ryu1ify หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's plenty of those in the burgs, I imagine. They're just also bat-winged tanar'ri

  • @Snowchapel
    @Snowchapel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dislike for stupid long intro.

  • @baronvonpenguin6112
    @baronvonpenguin6112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I JUST started Torment last night. Talk about good timing.