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I remember I did this with Liverpool on FM, got them relegated to League 2 sacked all their staff, sold all their players except markovic he would not leave despite European teams coming in for him 🤣
@abdulshah2094 Are you mad? Arsene Wenger: 3 premier league titles, 0 champions leagues, 0 European cups (as the champions league used to be called) Sir Alex Ferguson: -13 premier league titles -2 Champions league titles -1 European Cup with bloody Aberdeen! Defeating Real Madrid in the final. There is no discussion
It took Alex Ferguson 5 years to win a trophy finish 11th in division 1in his first season these days managers are not given another time for some clubs its win a trophy your sacked
Acting King You both got your facts wrong Fergie joined in 1986 and won FA cup in 1990 Man Utd were relegated in 1974 Atkinson managed Utd in the 1980’s Man Utd has been a massive club since before either of these two joined Munich 1958 The flowers of Manchester
wrong again, Ron (not Roy) Atkinson was replaced in November, mainly because he didn't win the league the previous season when United won the first 10 matches and were well ahead of everyone else . They were in a bad run of form and fourth bottom, I will concede, but the beginning of November was way too early to be considered a relegation threat! United were already looking for Ferguson to take over and needed to sack Atkinson first ( Atkinson found out they had already made enquiries whilst he was also going through personal problems ) Atkinson's main problem was that he only concentrated on the first team whereas United have a history of youth development and he mainly lost the league because there were many injuries and no real strength in depth. also Martin Edwards didn't like the fact Atkinson went to Mexico to comment on the World Cup rather than doing what United were paying him for and sorting out for the new season ahead, he thought Atkinson had took his eye off the ball. Ferguson sorted that out but it took a while because he had to start a the bottom whilst trying to establish his own first team squad Prior to Ferguson arriving, Atkinson was actually our most successful manager since Sir Matt Busby
Loving Life As I said before, Atkinson was sacked in November 86 so it was actually Ferguson who finished 11th Atkinsons record was actually 2 third placed and 3 fourth placed in his five seasons I wouldn’t call that a mid table team
Bob Paisley . During his 9 yrs in charge at Liverpool he won 14 major trophies . During this time he also made Liverpool THE team to be feared in Europe . 3 European cups and 1 Eufa cup . Old red nose .... 2 champions league trophies in 25 + yrs in charge .... wow . Is that it ?? 🤣😅😂
@@richybatty234 Aberdeen Sir Alex Ferguson: Scottish Premier Division: 1979-80, 1983-84, 1984-85 Scottish Cup: 1981-82, 1982-83, 1983-84, 1985-86 Scottish League Cup: 1985-86 Drybrough Cup: 1980 European Cup Winners' Cup: 1982-83 European Super Cup: 1983 Premier League: 1992-93, 1993-94, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1998-99, 1999-2000, 2000-01, 2002-03, 2006-07, 2007-08, 2008-09, 2010-11, 2012-13[269] FA Cup: 1989-90, 1993-94, 1995-96, 1998-99, 2003-04[270] Football League Cup: 1991-92, 2005-06, 2008-09, 2009-10[270] FA Charity/Community Shield: 1990 (shared), 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011[270] UEFA Champions League: 1998-99, 2007-08[270] European Cup Winners' Cup: 1990-91[270] European Super Cup: 1991[270] Intercontinental Cup: 1999[270] FIFA Club World Cup: 2008[270] Individual LMA Manager of the Decade: 1990s LMA Manager of the Year: 1998-99, 2007-08, 2010-11, 2012-13 LMA Special Merit Award: 2009, 2011 Premier League Manager of the Season: 1993-94, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1998-99, 1999-2000, 2002-03, 2006-07, 2007-08, 2008-09, 2010-11, 2012-13[269] Premier League Manager of the Month: August 1993, October 1994, February 1996, March 1996, February 1997, October 1997, January 1999, April 1999, August 1999, March 2000, April 2000, February 2001, April 2003, December 2003, February 2005, March 2006, August 2006, October 2006, February 2007, January 2008, March 2008, January 2009, April 2009, September 2009, January 2011, August 2011, October 2012[269] UEFA Manager of the Year: 1998-99 UEFA Team of the Year: 2007, 2008 Onze d'Or Coach of the Year: 1999, 2007, 2008 European Coach of the Year-Alf Ramsey Award: 2008 IFFHS World's Best Club Coach: 1999, 2008 IFFHS World's Best Coach of the 21st Century: 2012 Laureus World Sports Award for Team of the Year: 2000 BBC Sports Personality of the Year Coach Award: 1999 BBC Sports Personality Team of the Year Award: 1999 BBC Sports Personality of the Year Lifetime Achievement Award: 2001 BBC Sports Personality Diamond Award: 2013 English Football Hall of Fame (Manager) : 2002 Scottish Football Hall of Fame: 2004 European Hall of Fame (Manager): 2008 FIFA Presidential Award: 2011 Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992-93 - 2001-02) Manager of the Decade Most Coaching Appearances (392 games) Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992-93 - 2011-12) Best Manager FWA Tribute Award: 1996 PFA Merit Award: 2007 Premier League Merit Award: 2012-13 Mussabini Medal: 1999 Bob Paisley, OBE Football League First Division (6): 1975-76,[36] 1976-77,[37] 1978-79,[38] 1979-80,[39] 1981-82,[40] 1982-83[41] League Cup (3): 1980-81,[42][43] 1981-82,[44] 1982-83[45] FA Charity Shield (6): 1974,[46] 1976,[47] 1977,[48] 1979,[49] 1980,[50] 1982[51] European Cup (3): 1976-77,[52] 1977-78,[53] 1980-81[54] UEFA Cup (1): 1975-76[55][56] UEFA Super Cup (1): 1977[57][58] Individual Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE): 1983 PFA Merit Award: 1983 FWA Tribute Award: 1984 English Football Hall of Fame (Manager): 2002 European Hall of Fame (Manager): 2008 Football Manager of the Year Award (6):[7] 1975-76, 1976-77, 1978-79, 1979-80, 1981-82, 1982-83 European Coach of the Year-Sepp Herberger Award: 1981 European Coach of the Season: 1977-78 ESPN 4th Greatest Manager of All Time: 2013[67] World Soccer 8th Greatest Manager of All Time: 2013 France Football 26th Greatest Manager of All Time: 2019[68] Absolutely no contest....Fergie is the goat
Because Sir Alex chose him. Like Sir Alex said during his last game, be patience with our new manager like we had with him. Trust his decision is the best we, the fans, can do now.
Fantastic manager without doubt if memory serves he built 4 class outfits at utd never went too long without winning a trophy. And what he did at Aberdeen should not be underestimated either.....fergie turned utd into a real power house instead of the nearly team. I think klopp has done a very similar job at liverpool having the right man at the top makes a massive impact.
I cant for the life of me fathom the type of meeting or the brains(or lack there of) attending that meeting where someone thought allowed " here, let's sign sir Alex as manager" and the other brain donors in attendance reply "eff me, what a marvellous idea, my God you've really earned your wages this week." then says to the rest " right there gents, innovative thinking outside the box", signing fergie, I feel good about this. do you think he might wanna come in as player/manager" 😬😬🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Ferguson didn't have a massive success at once either. He was even close to being fired, but unlike the owners today, managers got some time to prove themself back then, and look how well that went for Ferguson.
uberjens Aye, but he’d already split the Celtic and Rangers monopoly of Scottish football in the 80s- back when Celtic and Rangers and Scottish Football was far, far closer to Europe and England than it is now- by winning 3 leagues, four Scottish Cups, a league cup, a UEFA Cup Winner’s Cup (beating Real Madrid), and a UEFA Super Cup with Aberdeen. Plus, he’d served an Assistant Mangers apprenticeship in Scotland’s national team under the great Jock Stein. They had far more to base their bets on than United had with Moyes. Though, I think he should have been given time. LVG did no better despite having a far larger reputation.
No I don't support United. But I think it was a bad move because he really hasn't won much in his career and he can't attract big players such as Fabregas , Gundogan or Ronaldo who might have signed for United if Sir Alex was still in charge. Anyway I'm not here to rip on Moyes just saying a big club like United needs a great manager who has won trophies and can improve his squad.
They are training a manager. A manager who can impart each and every aspect of the club in to his self and become a one-club legend like SAF. In short term he can look like a catastrophe but in long term could become something spectacular.
No nonsense Glaswegian with a well-respected eye for the game. Similar to the outgoing manager, I guess. Also, there are some managers who would go there and leave after a few years through boredom or arguments with the board. Moyes, through his eleven years at Everton has proven both his commitment and longevity to anyone looking for those qualities.
Because Moyes is a long term coach, he was for years at Everton. He did will with that club. When Ferguson began at ManU he also wasn't a top coach yet. Just have patience and give Moyes a chance.
Villas was exceptional at scouting players. u loook at the youth chelsea have now. look at the top names at chelsea all done by villas. Mata , Hazard , Oscar , Lukaku , debruyne ,
Just for the record of everybody commenting here. You really need to judge people on their merits and faults, impact, achievements and circumstances. Somebody today could have a team of specialist experts help choose players along with a multimillion pound budget and help construct a team and then be allowed at least another season to improve on deficiencies in the team and problems with the team. If all of these things are part of the normal process then the achievements are not of the same magnitude. The skill of that manager will be tested, but to compare that to having to virtually rebuild a club from youth upwards is obviously erroneous. Now imagine a manager creating a club's identity and ethos, being a pioneer with how managing football is carried out in a climate that doesn't welcome change, having to work with below par facilities and infrastructure, creating and structuring the club's departments, having to work through two major disasters one that was inherited at the inception of the job role and the other whilst in the building process, losing nearly all of your players which were capable of winning several top trophies, narrowly escaping death with serious injuries sustained, and still having success with major trophies. Surely the manager just listed above cannot be discredited for having less trophies than others when taking everything into account and considering the circumstances. If another manager creates a club's identity and ethos, creates the infrastructure which includes long term strategies which prove to be successful after he has left, hiring the correct people to carry on the work along with contingency planning, and also being successful by winning major trophies. If that manager wins less trophies than his immediate and subsequent successors how can he be considered less when most of the work, processes and plans were a part of his legacy? Look at a manager with limited resources who wins either one or several major trophies, in a league or leagues where the team is not challenging for top awards and is dominated by bigger teams with much larger resources and better players, is consistently successful in terms of objectives set and expectations realistically expected, then upsets the status quo so much that everyone appears astonished at the achievements. Look at a manager who has huge success whilst greatly innovating the actual sport itself (which itself is challenging, hard to implement and time consuming) and compare this to someone with more trophies who inherited a great infrastructure and recruiting, great players and with an established identity and ethos at a highly acclaimed club with a great history and world renown. Now think about all the things we do not know about a coach or manager, whose ideas are whose, what work went into the background, anybody who did not get the recognition for what they contributed, any hidden details or circumstances and things like the achievements which are not reported or acknowledged by people. When you think along these lines any claims or opinions are more baseless and deficient than vastly factual and empirical!
joe khaled, fergusson is shit? most successful manager in the history of football is shit? brought home grown talent in like scholes, giggs, beckham, butt and the neville brothers? im assuming your a chelsea fan and this is just pure bigotry, but please dont lie.
Daz k76 home grown as in, took into the youth system, nurtured through there early years, and then developed into the players they are. I see your point, But you cannot deny that
josh laird will not knock fergie as a manager. However youth system is different. For example your hated Stevie G born and bread and lifted everything but......! However that's home grown. But agree them youngsters fergie stole from other academies won him the lot
During a rebuilding process after United winning the league for the last few years. In the third year United started dominating again and bye bye to Mourinho.
No I'm not a United fan. So what are you saying , Am I questioning god or something?? All I'm saying is that I don't understand his decision and why bring such a manager when there clearly are those far superior to him , who have won many trophies in many league's and have the recognition to attract world class players. For example Ozil said he wanted to play for Arsenal because he really admired Arsene Wenger. Moyes doesn't have that , and thats why nobody signed for united this summer.
Moyes is a fantastic manager. To do what he did with Everton year after year with such limited funds says it all. Its a shame not enough Man U fans get behind him because the players need to believe in the manager for it to work. If there was ever a year Man U needed true supporters this is it, yet there are mainly moaners. Disappointing.
I think Moyes needs some time to get used to managing a bigger side, i dont particularly agree with you about the proven managers line of thought, look at Barca for the last 10 years they havent had proven managers and have done extremely well.
Fergie only called it a day cos of the lack of funds united have this season to buy players compared to other top clubs. Moyes has ruined his career now. So much expectation with a bang average team and in my opinion will not finish in top 4 this season
he came in 1986 plus he won lot's of cups at Aberdeen and they been rea Madrid in the cup winners cup plus he was ma the Scottish nation team yep fegie was not famous.......
bob paisley is actually better 3 european in back to back european cups thats more difficult to win then winning 13 league tittles with money rich club manchester united. Bob paisley is best manager ever if he inheried bill or what he is best management was excellent thats why lfc conquer europe. paisley more humble not proud or wise man and respected in england. scottish bosses usually get recognition more then english bosses i do not know why??. is uk f.a run by scottish???
Anyone will be successful manager at Chelsea at that time rich tycoon and buying expensive player able why able to win top club. Last 20 years in EPL chelsea club is like unheard of
@@karansood6130 is not jealous i myself is MAN u fan is actually a FACT. If not den Chelsea able to beat top club Barc and RM and win trophy, Man U start down hill from there since! IF there Chelsea and there Man city. Know your shit before start comment brainless
@@karansood6130 u don't any make sense dude. if manu did they already won many trophy by NO. My point manu Lack of fund at that period and Chelsea were have ton of FUNDS definitely get many great players and that why MANU did even get any trophy :)
Wayne rooney caused a massive row between Fergie,United and Nike and Adidas over a supposed "360" deal(i.e nike sponsored Rooney's boots,shirt etc) but Uniteds shirts were made by Adidas. Rooney put the club in a bad position.He won and received a 200k a week contract. 3 days later Fergie retires....The tail truly wags the dog now
I hate David Moyes he needs to leave he's no good for united he keeps blaming the player's for the fails but these are the same player's that won the Premiership
They made a good choice, when you say 'great managers', are you referring to those managers who leave clubs after 3/4 years? They don't want a Mourinho or Ancelotti; they're not great like Fergie, it takes time and David Moyes is the kind of man who will stick it out, unlike the aforementioned "great" managers. - Liverpool Fan.
Moyes was never given chance, he went into title winning club and got rid of the staff, older players that won everything, Saha that would walk into the current starting 11 and came in with Phill Neville as his number 2😂 but in Moyes defence, wanted to sign Thiago Alcantara & Kroos 😂 but only Fellaini came through who by the way was not sold of by the next 2 coaches 😂 everybody used United, Ramos wanted new contract threatened to sign for United 😂 United wanted to sign player, the club would hold them for ransom, then the agent, then the player and when they finally land player, he was reject, then the current donkeys at United demanded new improved contracts, its the same story at Ac Milan but at least they went and signed young donkeys 😂 they went from LVG to Mourinho back to Olly so in essence they went from Youth prospects to proven finished article back to Youth prospects, basically a proof they didn't know what they wanted. They should have stuck with LVG although they passed side to side he was going to bring in more clinical and technical final 3rd players stagnated under Mourinho. Fergie always said teams were built in cycles, Chelsea was the 1st oil club who hoarded world class players, they had run of winning trophies with revolving door for managers and now in 2020 they're restarting with youthful team and smart buys and It looks like they learnt from Uniteds mistakes.
bob paisley is actually better 3 european in back to back european cups thats more difficult to win then winning 13 league tittles with money rich club manchester united. Bob paisley is best manager ever if he inheried bill or what he is best management was excellent thats why lfc conquer europe. paisley more humble not proud or wise man and respected in england. scottish bosses usually get recognition more then english bosses i do not know why??. is uk run by scottish???
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I once managed Liverpool and sold all their players and hired free agents, and got them relegated... the joys of fifa
Ryley Alexander I did the same with city!
Lol 😂
👍👍👍
I remember I did this with Liverpool on FM, got them relegated to League 2 sacked all their staff, sold all their players except markovic he would not leave despite European teams coming in for him 🤣
Lololol
26 years? How often does that happen if best managers nowadays get the sack after one season this guy is G.O.A.T
@Abdul Shah wtf to you.. how can specialist in failure (wenger) be the first and not sir alex?.. wtf to u again. bye2 loser
@Abdul Shah get lost mate.. once a loser always a loser
@abdulshah2094 Are you mad?
Arsene Wenger: 3 premier league titles, 0 champions leagues, 0 European cups (as the champions league used to be called)
Sir Alex Ferguson:
-13 premier league titles
-2 Champions league titles
-1 European Cup with bloody Aberdeen! Defeating Real Madrid in the final.
There is no discussion
It took Alex Ferguson 5 years to win a trophy finish 11th in division 1in his first season these days managers are not given another time for some clubs its win a trophy your sacked
Acting King
You both got your facts wrong
Fergie joined in 1986 and won FA cup in 1990
Man Utd were relegated in 1974
Atkinson managed Utd in the 1980’s
Man Utd has been a massive club since before either of these two joined
Munich 1958
The flowers of Manchester
wrong again, Ron (not Roy) Atkinson was replaced in November, mainly because he didn't win the league the previous season when United won the first 10 matches and were well ahead of everyone else .
They were in a bad run of form and fourth bottom, I will concede, but the beginning of November was way too early to be considered a relegation threat!
United were already looking for Ferguson to take over and needed to sack Atkinson first ( Atkinson found out they had already made enquiries whilst he was also going through personal problems )
Atkinson's main problem was that he only concentrated on the first team whereas United have a history of youth development and he mainly lost the league because there were many injuries and no real strength in depth.
also Martin Edwards didn't like the fact Atkinson went to Mexico to comment on the World Cup rather than doing what United were paying him for and sorting out for the new season ahead, he thought Atkinson had took his eye off the ball.
Ferguson sorted that out but it took a while because he had to start a the bottom whilst trying to establish his own first team squad
Prior to Ferguson arriving, Atkinson was actually our most successful manager since Sir Matt Busby
Not Five Yrs
Loving Life
As I said before, Atkinson was sacked in November 86 so it was actually Ferguson who finished 11th
Atkinsons record was actually 2 third placed and 3 fourth placed in his five seasons
I wouldn’t call that a mid table team
Fergie did a lot behind the scenes to improve the club and modernize it during those low finishes
he could have had more UCL trophies if not for messi...
@Ad Max I agree
@Ad Max 97. All those missed chances still give me shivers
😭 2009 should have been us against chelsea, then we probably would have won 2009, 2011 broke my poor heart.
Greatest manager of all time! ❤️
I'm sure at one point or another every single big club tried to, or thought about trying to sign Fergie
Zain apart from Arsenal
Abdul Shah Wenger isn’t better than Ferguson
@Abdul Shah you realise you diminish Arsene's glittering career by making a stupid comparison like that?
@Abdul Shah 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Abdul Shah your thick you plastic
I was at his last game in old Trafford..wata legend! Was saddest title we celebrated winning
So was I was in the stretford end with my brother and I almost cried as I knew it was the end of something so special
True for Chelsea as soon as they lose they change the coach
True they won one year
Came second in the next one
And just nicked my clubs best coach since mourinho
(Andre villas boas from porto)
United aren’t much different these days tbh
Cheers Ahmed
He was a great manager at Aberdeen FC, in Scotland.
sir Alex Ferguson's the greatest manager of football simply the best ever and that is a fact
Scott Kent Brian Clough
@@tobiaspendlebury5894cough cough 3 UCL cough cough 13 premier league's
YOUR NAN top flight title with teams that came recently from 2nd tier
Bob Paisley . During his 9 yrs in charge at Liverpool he won 14 major trophies . During this time he also made Liverpool THE team to be feared in Europe . 3 European cups and 1 Eufa cup . Old red nose .... 2 champions league trophies in 25 + yrs in charge .... wow . Is that it ?? 🤣😅😂
@@richybatty234 Aberdeen
Sir Alex Ferguson:
Scottish Premier Division: 1979-80, 1983-84, 1984-85
Scottish Cup: 1981-82, 1982-83, 1983-84, 1985-86
Scottish League Cup: 1985-86
Drybrough Cup: 1980
European Cup Winners' Cup: 1982-83
European Super Cup: 1983
Premier League: 1992-93, 1993-94, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1998-99, 1999-2000, 2000-01, 2002-03, 2006-07, 2007-08, 2008-09, 2010-11, 2012-13[269]
FA Cup: 1989-90, 1993-94, 1995-96, 1998-99, 2003-04[270]
Football League Cup: 1991-92, 2005-06, 2008-09, 2009-10[270]
FA Charity/Community Shield: 1990 (shared), 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011[270]
UEFA Champions League: 1998-99, 2007-08[270]
European Cup Winners' Cup: 1990-91[270]
European Super Cup: 1991[270]
Intercontinental Cup: 1999[270]
FIFA Club World Cup: 2008[270]
Individual
LMA Manager of the Decade: 1990s
LMA Manager of the Year: 1998-99, 2007-08, 2010-11, 2012-13
LMA Special Merit Award: 2009, 2011
Premier League Manager of the Season: 1993-94, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1998-99, 1999-2000, 2002-03, 2006-07, 2007-08, 2008-09, 2010-11, 2012-13[269]
Premier League Manager of the Month: August 1993, October 1994, February 1996, March 1996, February 1997, October 1997, January 1999, April 1999, August 1999, March 2000, April 2000, February 2001, April 2003, December 2003, February 2005, March 2006, August 2006, October 2006, February 2007, January 2008, March 2008, January 2009, April 2009, September 2009, January 2011, August 2011, October 2012[269]
UEFA Manager of the Year: 1998-99
UEFA Team of the Year: 2007, 2008
Onze d'Or Coach of the Year: 1999, 2007, 2008
European Coach of the Year-Alf Ramsey Award: 2008
IFFHS World's Best Club Coach: 1999, 2008
IFFHS World's Best Coach of the 21st Century: 2012
Laureus World Sports Award for Team of the Year: 2000
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Coach Award: 1999
BBC Sports Personality Team of the Year Award: 1999
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Lifetime Achievement Award: 2001
BBC Sports Personality Diamond Award: 2013
English Football Hall of Fame (Manager) : 2002
Scottish Football Hall of Fame: 2004
European Hall of Fame (Manager): 2008
FIFA Presidential Award: 2011
Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992-93 - 2001-02)
Manager of the Decade
Most Coaching Appearances (392 games)
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992-93 - 2011-12)
Best Manager
FWA Tribute Award: 1996
PFA Merit Award: 2007
Premier League Merit Award: 2012-13
Mussabini Medal: 1999
Bob Paisley, OBE
Football League First Division (6): 1975-76,[36] 1976-77,[37] 1978-79,[38] 1979-80,[39] 1981-82,[40] 1982-83[41]
League Cup (3): 1980-81,[42][43] 1981-82,[44] 1982-83[45]
FA Charity Shield (6): 1974,[46] 1976,[47] 1977,[48] 1979,[49] 1980,[50] 1982[51]
European Cup (3): 1976-77,[52] 1977-78,[53] 1980-81[54]
UEFA Cup (1): 1975-76[55][56]
UEFA Super Cup (1): 1977[57][58]
Individual
Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE): 1983
PFA Merit Award: 1983
FWA Tribute Award: 1984
English Football Hall of Fame (Manager): 2002
European Hall of Fame (Manager): 2008
Football Manager of the Year Award (6):[7] 1975-76, 1976-77, 1978-79, 1979-80, 1981-82, 1982-83
European Coach of the Year-Sepp Herberger Award: 1981
European Coach of the Season: 1977-78
ESPN 4th Greatest Manager of All Time: 2013[67]
World Soccer 8th Greatest Manager of All Time: 2013
France Football 26th Greatest Manager of All Time: 2019[68]
Absolutely no contest....Fergie is the goat
Miss u sir
13 Prems, 5 FA cups. 2 champions leagues. Better than what Chelsea has done. You sure?
4 league cups as well
Because Sir Alex chose him. Like Sir Alex said during his last game, be patience with our new manager like we had with him. Trust his decision is the best we, the fans, can do now.
Fantastic manager without doubt if memory serves he built 4 class outfits at utd never went too long without winning a trophy. And what he did at Aberdeen should not be underestimated either.....fergie turned utd into a real power house instead of the nearly team. I think klopp has done a very similar job at liverpool having the right man at the top makes a massive impact.
Yeah? And now…
@@simonshotter8960 meaning?
@@trillywinkledinkle4323 Liverpool have turned to shit
Manu got Moyes because Sir Alex saw something in him. You don't need to be a flashy manager with many trophies from an exotic nation to do good
Andrew Meers how’ve you found this from 6 years ago ffs looool
I cant for the life of me fathom the type of meeting or the brains(or lack there of) attending that meeting where someone thought allowed " here, let's sign sir Alex as manager" and the other brain donors in attendance reply "eff me, what a marvellous idea, my God you've really earned your wages this week." then says to the rest " right there gents, innovative thinking outside the box", signing fergie, I feel good about this. do you think he might wanna come in as player/manager"
😬😬🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
From everton really
He cant cope with top flight football
But he was amazing at everton
Ferguson didn't have a massive success at once either. He was even close to being fired, but unlike the owners today, managers got some time to prove themself back then, and look how well that went for Ferguson.
uberjens
Aye, but he’d already split the Celtic and Rangers monopoly of Scottish football in the 80s- back when Celtic and Rangers and Scottish Football was far, far closer to Europe and England than it is now- by winning 3 leagues, four Scottish Cups, a league cup, a UEFA Cup Winner’s Cup (beating Real Madrid), and a UEFA Super Cup with Aberdeen. Plus, he’d served an Assistant Mangers apprenticeship in Scotland’s national team under the great Jock Stein.
They had far more to base their bets on than United had with Moyes. Though, I think he should have been given time. LVG did no better despite having a far larger reputation.
Hilary must have been relieved....
No I don't support United. But I think it was a bad move because he really hasn't won much in his career and he can't attract big players such as Fabregas , Gundogan or Ronaldo who might have signed for United if Sir Alex was still in charge. Anyway I'm not here to rip on Moyes just saying a big club like United needs a great manager who has won trophies and can improve his squad.
October 2013...Utd fans needn't worry, 7 years later and waiting lol
To think what a low budget team Moyes made Everton to be? Now that in its own right makes him a good manager
Fergie G.O.A.T
Bob paisley was better.
If paisley managed for as long as fergie he would have won a lot more.
He retired, unlike the drunken tramp who just hung on to break records.
Well paisleys best team would have squashed fergies best team.
acting king, not even close, rush, dalglish, souness, whelan, grobbelaar lawrenson and hansen.
You are deluded. Poles apart.
They are training a manager. A manager who can impart each and every aspect of the club in to his self and become a one-club legend like SAF.
In short term he can look like a catastrophe but in long term could become something spectacular.
Fergusson also saw something in Scholes, Becks, Giggs, Cantona, Ronaldo, Rooney etc. How did that work out?
Worked out pretty well... With all of them..
0:55 The moment Charlie Rose became the old Joker from Batman
No nonsense Glaswegian with a well-respected eye for the game. Similar to the outgoing manager, I guess. Also, there are some managers who would go there and leave after a few years through boredom or arguments with the board. Moyes, through his eleven years at Everton has proven both his commitment and longevity to anyone looking for those qualities.
I turned down Man Utd on FIFA 16, 17 and 18.
Spastic
Strong boy for turning her down.
Ferguson=LEGEND
I went out a winner. No you went out a living legend ❤️
Because Moyes is a long term coach, he was for years at Everton. He did will with that club. When Ferguson began at ManU he also wasn't a top coach yet.
Just have patience and give Moyes a chance.
Please come back....... I am your biggest fan and I'm Scottish aswell
2:20 This take aged well.
respect for sir alex.
Villas was exceptional at scouting players. u loook at the youth chelsea have now. look at the top names at chelsea all done by villas. Mata , Hazard , Oscar , Lukaku , debruyne ,
Just for the record of everybody commenting here. You really need to judge people on their merits and faults, impact, achievements and circumstances.
Somebody today could have a team of specialist experts help choose players along with a multimillion pound budget and help construct a team and then be allowed at least another season to improve on deficiencies in the team and problems with the team. If all of these things are part of the normal process then the achievements are not of the same magnitude.
The skill of that manager will be tested, but to compare that to having to virtually rebuild a club from youth upwards is obviously erroneous.
Now imagine a manager creating a club's identity and ethos, being a pioneer with how managing football is carried out in a climate that doesn't welcome change, having to work with below par facilities and infrastructure, creating and structuring the club's departments, having to work through two major disasters one that was inherited at the inception of the job role and the other whilst in the building process, losing nearly all of your players which were capable of winning several top trophies, narrowly escaping death with serious injuries sustained, and still having success with major trophies.
Surely the manager just listed above cannot be discredited for having less trophies than others when taking everything into account and considering the circumstances.
If another manager creates a club's identity and ethos, creates the infrastructure which includes long term strategies which prove to be successful after he has left, hiring the correct people to carry on the work along with contingency planning, and also being successful by winning major trophies. If that manager wins less trophies than his immediate and subsequent successors how can he be considered less when most of the work, processes and plans were a part of his legacy?
Look at a manager with limited resources who wins either one or several major trophies, in a league or leagues where the team is not challenging for top awards and is dominated by bigger teams with much larger resources and better players, is consistently successful in terms of objectives set and expectations realistically expected, then upsets the status quo so much that everyone appears astonished at the achievements.
Look at a manager who has huge success whilst greatly innovating the actual sport itself (which itself is challenging, hard to implement and time consuming) and compare this to someone with more trophies who inherited a great infrastructure and recruiting, great players and with an established identity and ethos at a highly acclaimed club with a great history and world renown.
Now think about all the things we do not know about a coach or manager, whose ideas are whose, what work went into the background, anybody who did not get the recognition for what they contributed, any hidden details or circumstances and things like the achievements which are not reported or acknowledged by people.
When you think along these lines any claims or opinions are more baseless and deficient than vastly factual and empirical!
I see the effect of this coronavirus lockdown on you!
@@sinmio I have the virus
@@sinmio maybe you could not understand. It's OK not to be clever, everyone has their strengths and this obviously isn't yours.
in this day and age the only way to get time as a manager is to invest your time in small clubs that havent got a taste of top flight football
yes but back then united were used to losing, Sir Alex was the man who made them believe that they can do better
Clubs got to be patient with managers, Steve Bruce has to take his time at Newcastle
honestly steve has done amazing
joe khaled, fergusson is shit? most successful manager in the history of football is shit? brought home grown talent in like scholes, giggs, beckham, butt and the neville brothers? im assuming your a chelsea fan and this is just pure bigotry, but please dont lie.
josh laird sorry mate .. Becks a cockney lad. Scholes I believe from Oldham / Bury. NOT HOME GROWN
Daz k76 home grown as in, took into the youth system, nurtured through there early years, and then developed into the players they are. I see your point, But you cannot deny that
josh laird will not knock fergie as a manager. However youth system is different. For example your hated Stevie G born and bread and lifted everything but......!
However that's home grown. But agree them youngsters fergie stole from other academies won him the lot
josh laird who said that
Chelsea fan r dicks and pathetic
i would prefer to have Di Matteo instead of Moyes
I were right
Fail to get him? No problem. Jose is equally lethal and completely outclassed him in the first two years.
josemour100 but not the third 🔫
josemour100 respect Jose but I don't think he is better
josemour100 hahahahhhaba
kashvin warma the irony after all of these years
During a rebuilding process after United winning the league for the last few years. In the third year United started dominating again and bye bye to Mourinho.
Yeah why not mohrinio
Guardiola, Villas-Boas, Mourinho, Wenger, Rodgers, Del Bosque, Pellegrini, Martino, Bielsa, Bianchi, Scolari, Pekerman, Sabella>>>>>>>>Moyes
well if you think about it, Ferguson wasn't a big famous manager when he started in Manchester United back in 1985 :) He got to starts somewhere.
tnmyat2 he had already won the European cup winners cup for Aberdeen.
Moyes did not get a chance
Well as in this video he talked about refusing Chelsea it's only logical that you are talking about them.
he has been at a club for 10 years, thats why
and finishing around 8th in epl and not winning anything
Oh still we knocked you off your fuckin perch...
20 times
Fuck off you brain dead scouser
Have faith in moyes fergie didnt win anything for 4 years. Give him a chancd
Meanwhile, 4 managers later..
No I'm not a United fan. So what are you saying , Am I questioning god or something?? All I'm saying is that I don't understand his decision and why bring such a manager when there clearly are those far superior to him , who have won many trophies in many league's and have the recognition to attract world class players. For example Ozil said he wanted to play for Arsenal because he really admired Arsene Wenger. Moyes doesn't have that , and thats why nobody signed for united this summer.
well said, well said
No no no chance not even a 0.01sec
SirAF
Since when was Portugal exotic?
Moyes is a fantastic manager. To do what he did with Everton year after year with such limited funds says it all. Its a shame not enough Man U fans get behind him because the players need to believe in the manager for it to work. If there was ever a year Man U needed true supporters this is it, yet there are mainly moaners. Disappointing.
Now he is at West Ham
I think Moyes needs some time to get used to managing a bigger side, i dont particularly agree with you about the proven managers line of thought, look at Barca for the last 10 years they havent had proven managers and have done extremely well.
Who's the one changing coaches now and who is doing shit?
LMFAO
Daniel Plays still more titles and championships than you'll ever have :)
Craig Hannon I commented this 2 years ago why are you here
Lol still Chelsea even 3yrs after, Conte won't be around long!
He's referring to United
flashy? no. Experienced? yes.
All thanks ( or blame) for Mark Robins!
Do not put them in order -_-
Fergie only called it a day cos of the lack of funds united have this season to buy players compared to other top clubs. Moyes has ruined his career now. So much expectation with a bang average team and in my opinion will not finish in top 4 this season
That's because Barca have a very good squad.
Got Lampard now 😉
When rooney or persie leave or retire man u will fall. Its already falling.
As accurate it is , OGS kinda saved back the club's dignity.
true
What were ManU thinking when they got David Moyes? There are so many great managers why Moyes , just doesn't make any sense.
bcoz SAF and Moyes both are from SCOTLAND aKA SCOT
Chelsea isn't a Portugese team. And if you think I mentioned Jose, I didn;t
Give moyes a chance, sure fergie was close to getting the sack back in the 80's and look at how he turned out
he came in 1986 plus he won lot's of cups at Aberdeen and they been rea Madrid in the cup winners cup plus he was ma the Scottish nation team yep fegie was not famous.......
He never managed the national team
0:42 Bosingwa, Meireles and Kalou look like drug dealers celebrating their profits with supplier Abramovich just chillin
'ManU' wasn't the one who chose David Moyes. Sir Alex did.
bob paisley is actually better 3 european in back to back european cups thats more difficult to win then winning 13 league tittles with money rich club manchester united. Bob paisley is best manager ever if he inheried bill or what he is best management was excellent thats why lfc conquer europe. paisley more humble not proud or wise man and respected in england. scottish bosses usually get recognition more then english bosses i do not know why??. is uk f.a run by scottish???
Can see why
Oh sorry, I thought Chelsea is a North Korean team somehow in the BPL....
Name one then.
THE GODFATHER 🔴⚫️⚪️
there is something sir alex saw in him. It is difficult to explain
No mate, look at moyes now, every club he joins it turns into shit. The only reason alex chose him is because he was scottish.
chris yako I know that now pal Ahahah
Couldn't do what?
Anyone will be successful manager at Chelsea at that time rich tycoon and buying expensive player able why able to win top club. Last 20 years in EPL chelsea club is like unheard of
So much jealous people..shut the hell up .what manu is gaining spending money these days... delusional
@@karansood6130 is not jealous i myself is MAN u fan is actually a FACT. If not den Chelsea able to beat top club Barc and RM and win trophy, Man U start down hill from there since! IF there Chelsea and there Man city. Know your shit before start comment brainless
@@GODLOVEME-uj3vb your comment doesn't even make sense..I just made point that manu is also spending money like other clubs these years
@@karansood6130 u don't any make sense dude. if manu did they already won many trophy by NO. My point manu Lack of fund at that period and Chelsea were have ton of FUNDS definitely get many great players and that why MANU did even get any trophy :)
was he wearing a welsh hat?
players you talk about come with only one thing ; money
You're the one who mentioned Portugal. Don't act like I'm the idiot
Because Ferguson picked him.
They thought bringing another Scottish manager will do the trick
aww testing the loyalty by not winning all the time?
he had a cushy job at utd
Wayne rooney caused a massive row between Fergie,United and Nike and Adidas over a supposed "360" deal(i.e nike sponsored Rooney's boots,shirt etc) but Uniteds shirts were made by Adidas.
Rooney put the club in a bad position.He won and received a 200k a week contract.
3 days later Fergie retires....The tail truly wags the dog now
where did rooney want to go?
And Moyes is expierienced.
I hate David Moyes he needs to leave he's no good for united he keeps blaming the player's for the fails but these are the same player's that won the Premiership
They made a good choice, when you say 'great managers', are you referring to those managers who leave clubs after 3/4 years? They don't want a Mourinho or Ancelotti; they're not great like Fergie, it takes time and David Moyes is the kind of man who will stick it out, unlike the aforementioned "great" managers.
- Liverpool Fan.
Rooney is a striker? wtf
Yes?
@@RYx222 I thought he was an attacking midfielder
1980
Why??? Chelsea would be way better than
Moyes was never given chance, he went into title winning club and got rid of the staff, older players that won everything, Saha that would walk into the current starting 11 and came in with Phill Neville as his number 2😂 but in Moyes defence, wanted to sign Thiago Alcantara & Kroos 😂 but only Fellaini came through who by the way was not sold of by the next 2 coaches 😂 everybody used United, Ramos wanted new contract threatened to sign for United 😂 United wanted to sign player, the club would hold them for ransom, then the agent, then the player and when they finally land player, he was reject, then the current donkeys at United demanded new improved contracts, its the same story at Ac Milan but at least they went and signed young donkeys 😂 they went from LVG to Mourinho back to Olly so in essence they went from Youth prospects to proven finished article back to Youth prospects, basically a proof they didn't know what they wanted. They should have stuck with LVG although they passed side to side he was going to bring in more clinical and technical final 3rd players stagnated under Mourinho. Fergie always said teams were built in cycles, Chelsea was the 1st oil club who hoarded world class players, they had run of winning trophies with revolving door for managers and now in 2020 they're restarting with youthful team and smart buys and It looks like they learnt from Uniteds mistakes.
They won't make top 4
Nothing like a good old plastic cup of champagne lol.
His blood runs red through and through would never had left united for russian propped up shite
bob paisley is actually better 3 european in back to back european cups thats more difficult to win then winning 13 league tittles with money rich club manchester united. Bob paisley is best manager ever if he inheried bill or what he is best management was excellent thats why lfc conquer europe. paisley more humble not proud or wise man and respected in england. scottish bosses usually get recognition more then english bosses i do not know why??. is uk run by scottish???