Packers president indicates team is ready to move on from Aaron Rodgers | NFL | SPEAK
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- Emmanuel Acho, LeSean McCoy, Joy Taylor and Ric Bucher discuss Green Bay Packers President Mark Murphy’s comments regarding Aaron Rodgers where it appears the team is ready to move on from the 4x NFL MVP. The group also reacts to New York Jets DB Sauce Gardner's recruitment pitch video to Rodgers.
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I think Shady's take is objectively better than Joy's, who seems to let her dislike for Rodgers affect her objectivity. The biggest problem with Rodgers is that he doesn't seem to love football anymore, so that will affect his commitment level.
You literally said the same thing as Joy. She's saying this is an old, nearly retired, coming off a bad season, A-Rod. So she's unsure if we're gonna get the MVP caliber or the old, washed up caliber Aaron. Everyone acts like the Jets have done anything. They're not that good. Their def was ok last year cause nobody was trying to beat them. It's not that easy to plug and play and win it all, don't let Brady fool you.
@@sonikspeed19 actually, Shady's emphasis was that Rodgers would be an instant upgrade over their QBs, and they'd make the playoffs; Joy minimized the significance of that, saying Championship or nothing. I agree with Shady that Rodgers getting them to the playoffs is valuable, because their young core will actually gain priceless playoff experience and establishing a winning culture, so I disagree with Joy that if it isn't a Championship, it's a failure. Now do I question Rodgers' commitment too? Yes.
It's funny how everyone talks about Roger's commitment. Did you ever work at a job where you did everything that you were supposed to do how you were supposed to do it and then that company hires your replacement while you're still there trying your hardest to do your job? That's what Aaron went through he was fully committed to winning then they brought in a new coach went 13 and 3 NFC championship game n instead of getting pieces to help that team they drafted his replacement, so now everybody mad that he's doing himself, but why when the company was doing their own thing the whole entire time. 1 good free agent singing in his years there, Julius peppers. Only ever played with 2 hof's in his career peppers n woodson. Get out here with that nonsense. My man knew he wasn't going to win rings in Green Bay because Green Bay was never trying to win rings that organization has no owner is content with just being relevant.
@@420blowingsmoke uh yes we all do but we still do our job
@@420blowingsmoke Rodgers lost Adams, and he was going into the season with rookies and 2nd or 3rd stringers, yet he did not feel the need to work out with them early to improve their chemistry, and they missed the playoffs. When Mahomes lost Tyreek and worked out early with his new receivers, he won the SB. The Packers passing game did not have to look putrid for most of the season, but Rodgers did not want to spend the extra time with the young receivers.
I love how Joy moved Acho’s coffee mug out of his way during his animation! Lol!
Time stamp?
@@semtex234 15:20
Watching her that close simps
I know! She is all about order and she knew that cup was going to be on the ground.
This was the most dysfunctional debate I’ve seen in a while 😂
Cuz McCoy can't believe the ticked up hatred Joy has for Rodgers... and McCoy ain't cool with 12 at all.
"That's all Aaron does is win one playoff game." Precision accuracy by Joy. It's funny because it's true. Go Pack Go!
Lol he didn't even do that 🤪 this year
And that’s false because out of the many conference championships games he made, the last one is the only one the Packers weren’t in the wild card games. So technically, he needed to win two games in 2015,2017 to reach the conference finals.
I don't think joys knows as much as she says she does.
They’ve been to conference championships winning one divisional playoff game via being top 1and 2 seed (until it changed in 2019)
@@SwaggGolden and 2010 they won 3
Russ had weapons in Seattle. What you mean joy? 😭 I love joy but she was way off with that “comparison”.
Apparently, DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett are trash? 😂
what about all those weapons everyone said he would have in Denver, Rodgers had no WRs played with a broken thumb and still outplayed Wilson last year.
@@waynesonneman7343 Rodgers' 26 TD passes to Wilson's 16 TDs. It ain't close! In Wilson's last season with Seattle, get this... Rodgers still had 1 more TD and much more passing yards with baby WRs. I know Joy is adding too much BBQ on the chicken despising A-Rod, but c'mon. Colin taught this b well.
@@dgskilla6285 most media has been on the hate Aaron train
@@dgskilla6285 Russell's last season in SEA, Rodgers still had Davante
She really comparing 🙄 A Rod to R Wilson 🤣🤣🤣🤣
She's not comparing their talents, but their situations. And older good QB, who hasn't won in a while, going to a team that is supposedly 1 QB away from being great and it was a dumpster fire with Russ. It could be the same with Aaron at the Jets. The point is we don't know how it's going to go. That conf is much harder.
Yeah bro what the above commenter said is true. Sometimes I wonder if people actually listen or if they just get triggered by key words. You my friend are in the latter category
I like joy a lot but shady and acho are right here, the jets are a historically bad franchise so if Aaron can take the New York Jets to the playoffs, that is a resounding success
Joy the biggest rodgers hater, but loves Lamar who has 1 playoff win in his career. What a joke
Something tells me, yeah this goes way beyond football.
What do you mean Lamar is better then Rogers. Rogers have won one playoff game since I was just getting out of highschool I'm 34 now so he ain't don't much his self he get to the first round an lose every year
@Bismarck Detroit wow, you couldn't get anything right there. If you're 34, Rodgers entire playoff career has been after you got out of high-school, he's 12-10 in the playoffs. He's reached the nfc championship game 4 times since 2015 (5 overall), which requires winning 1 or more playoff games to get there.
Russ had DK and Lockett last year in Seattle stop it Joy 🤣
Joy is a Dolphins fan so she’s hating and afraid of Jets whooping the dolphins with Aaron Rodgers
How can you just place an expectation on ARod to win Super Bowl w/ Jets when he hasn’t been to a Super Bowl in over a decade and just join a team that hasn’t been to the playoffs in over a decade
Joy doesn’t know what she’s talking about.. lol
Joy just compared Aaron Rodgers to Russel Wilson 😑
If you push mute when Joy starts talking it's a pretty good segment
Rodgers is not going to mesh with those young outspoken receivers. They have one bad game and he’ll be bitching and moaning same as in GB
This was the most idiotic argument I’ve seen on this show. Y’all completely missed the heart of the issue.
A rod to San Fran would be cool
Not happening tho
Do not compare Wilson and Aaron
Wilson will never be as good as Rodgers no matter how hard he cries.
@@waynesonneman7343 facts
Y'all are dumb. She's comparing their situations, not their talents. Aaron hasn't been a "team" guy and he's nearly retired, maybe 2 years left. His window is win now or disappear into the abyss. Wilson also came from a good situation, thought he was cookin, and went to a team that was 1 QB away. It was a dumpster fire. Aaron to Jets seems good, but the AFC is tough. It could also be a bad result. We just don't know, that's Joy's point. Folks act like the Jets are this great team. They're a trash Org, and last year had a better year by their standards and still couldn't make the playoffs.
@@sonikspeed19 Wilson has been on a decline for a few seasons. Not saying I thought he was going to be as bad as he was but I still didn’t expect much from him this past season. Aaron had one bad year. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and compare him more to Brady and Stafford.
I hate how Joy just can't answer the question for fear of being wrong. If you think Jets make the playoffs with him or not make it then just say it clearly with your chest, if you're right you're right and if you're wrong you're wrong, deal with it.
Joy must be a fan of some amazing teams, but she doesn’t understand that a playoff berth means everything for some people. I live in Colorado now, a Rockies fan would be psyched about a 500 team. I grew up in Hartford, a Whalers team at 500 would have been heaven. I always want my home team to win championships, but a playoff berth is a start and something to look forward to.
joy not making any sense at all , why she comparing rodgers to wilson when he better than wilson but making it seem like brady performs talent wise or as if stafford is just a betteer qb than rodgers like wtf sound like hate and biasness
I think the packers and jets rosters will be very close come week 1. Biggest difference is the jets have the better defensive coach. Packers are young and talented. I think that’s why they want Love to develop that.
@@docsylva2876 not even … Packers too have 7 first rounders on their defense … but if you compare position to position it isn’t off at all .
@@docsylva2876 it’s close but the packers have had 1 down year in the past 4. Sauce is great but so is Jaire. Packers have 2 great rbs instead of maybe one good rookie if he can recover. Wilson vs Watson? Watson is a far better playmaker. Packers probably drafting a first round te and they have had an above average or great oline for 30 years. Packers also have a young highly drafted defense that dealt with a ton of injuries last season and still played decent.
Rodgers feels nice and cozy in GreenBay. He doesn't want to deal with the pressure with the Jets. Rodgers is too into his feelings and it would break him if he failed in NY.
Why is the expectation different for Russell Wilson but when it’s Aaron Rodgers he has to win his first year with the jets? They said as long as Russ wins a championship with the broncos in his tenure there it isn’t a disappointment. Can we keep the same energy with Aaron Rodgers? Just because it’s Aaron Rodgers and he is more of a household name doesn’t mean we change the expectation and narrative. We have to be reasonable.
You can really tell Joy worked with Colin closely. The hatred for Rodgers is obnoxious
love seeing Ric fired up
I think he meant Devin White at 9:16 idk no Devin Wilson 😂
Fire Brian Gutekunst and Mark Murphy. They are the cause of all the drama.
Packers President is picked by the board. The board is picked by the president. No way they getting rid of him.
Will Rodgers be locked in like Mahomes, working with his receivers in the off season? Is Hackett an offensive genius, or is he just someone Rodgers is comfortable with?
Jets have to win a SB with him because there is a time limit, only a 2 year window ... maybe
Joys a hater point blank period.
Love this show. Love that Joy is actually on the panel and a lot of the times making more sense than the guys. She's not just "referee"
Yeah, but she doesn't.
"This is Russell Westbrook to the Nuggets?"
Yup. JUST like that Joy! Just like Russell Wilson to the Broncos!
Wow...how insightful! No, it was more "plug and play" when Stafford went to a different system(Jets run the same system BTW).
No, she's not making more sense than "the guys," and I suspect the only reason you even mentioned that was because you're talking about a women. It's actually more condescending than anything.
I don't really understand why a team would trade for a 39 year old QB who had to spend 4 days in isolation to decide if he still wanted to play football. He'll be 40 in December.
she named all those teams who had plug and play but decided to go with the Russel Wilson approach , as if rodgers aint on a stafford or brady level
When Farve left the packers in 2007 , he went to play for the Jets in 2008 seasons befor going to the Vikings
The biggest difference is you have 2/3/4 year window with Russ/KD. Plus not just talent the level of major commitment Vs Aron 1/2 years at best he doesn't seam to even be sure what he wants?
Great news!
Everybody should go off on AR
I'm on the narrative that the Packers wanna move on from Rodgers not the other way around.
Tell me again that Rodgers doesn't turn over the ball, while I watch reruns of Packers @ Lions.
Tell me again that Rodgers can take a team to the Superbowl, while I watch reruns of Lions @ Packers.
Like all players, Rodgers has a sell-by date and we are close to that date.
Were ready before but Love isnt good enough to start. Now Packers have 59.9 million reasons to move on, his salary.
The Aaron Rodgers hate is real. The dude worst season is half of the qbs best season. I look forward to doubted Aaron Rodgers
Joy’s thinking she knows how easy is to go to a SB, even former players are telling her is not
When shady said, JOE FLACCO, like he ain’t got a SB and always had his games againsts my Pats with Bill and Tom.
Wanna hear something crazy..Joe Flacco hasn't made the playoffs since 2014.almost 10 years..and he has 1 less playoff win than Rodgers. 😂😂
Real ones know. Im a ravens fan so of course lamar has been the talk of the town. Someone was saying lamar is the greatest qb in ravens history. I said not to me. Its still flacco. He gets no respect and its sad. The guy wasnt manning or or brady or big ben but he beat them all in the playoffs and it wasnt 7-6 like the media makes it out to be.
@@bloconte2796 lol what
@@universe-ie2mk right????
@@miminoran8948 joe Flacco was good,and always played good against the pats
Bro they are wrong, Brady and Manning worked for 3 to 4 years. Stafford and Worked for one year or less haha
While the Jets getting Rodgers would make them a playoff contender I don’t think him at the later stages of his career makes them an AFC Title Contender. Jets might have been better trading up in the draft for a QB
Right now getting to the playoffs and if possible getting a playoff win would do so much to galvanize that young team and start something with the jets that it would be worth it to get Arod and draft a young QB next year to sit behind him and learn. That gives Arod 2 years, the new QB one year of learning and playoff experience for the team as a whole.
Joy is a dolphin fan so she’ll always bash anything jet related 😂
So all the "great" qbs are supposed to go to the SB with their respective teams? Stop with expectations and look at reality
Last year is last year and this year will be this year. PLEASE for the love of everything get LeSean mccoy off tv fox
I’m not ready to say Christian Watson can’t be what Garrett Wilson was this year, all the measurables are definitely there. A Rod had a bad season.
Slick Rick needs to be on more often
Leadership is the difference
Where is Dave???
Joy and "Slick" (??) got this debate. Aaron Rodgers is not joining a team to be a bridge gap QB.
Russ is not in the same stratosphere as Rodgers cmon Joy smh
Where’s Dave?
Russ started w/ brand new first time head coach. Rodgers and Brady go to good defensive teams w/ multi year coaches w/ culture already established
Solidify the divorce already
How does shady have super bowls? I don’t recall him playing in a Super Bowl.
2 rings though. Part of the roster.
W
@@jeanfourcade L
Mahomes 1st shady was rb2 and Brady's with the bucs he was rb3
Haha! He didn't. He rode some teams cost tails lol
What a horrible comparison again…how does she get away with these day after day
Jets a top 5 team with Aaron Rodgers in the AFC.
They aren't better than the Cheifs, Bengals, Chargers, Jags, they would be tied at 5'th place with the Bills.
@@Josebats89 with Rodgers they are def better than the Jags. With Rodgers I can see them winning the division taking at least a game off Buffalo. The only teams I think that are definitively better in the AFC are KC, LAC, and Cinci
@Blastwave D. King Trevor Lawrence has gotten better and will continue to get better. Heck they almost beat the Cheifs.
@@Josebats89 that doesn't make the team as a whole better though. Jets have a better overall defense. Jets WRs imo are as a whole better. However, Trevor does indeed massively make up for that difference. Jets have a trash QB, an actual good one will make them far better. So with Rodgers I 100% believe Jets are better. There is t even a guarantee the Jags can make the playoffs again next season.
@Blastwave D. King So they are tied at 5. The goal is a super bowl with this potential trade. They aren't making a super bowl appearance. So it's going to be a waste of two years then you'll be right back here looking for a QB while eating into the rookie contract years of Sauce, Wilson, Hall. Not very wise.
He failed last year in Greenway he needs a fresh start with a team that WANTS him and a better team at that and that's the JETS.
Where Dave
Lol shady and acho are such casuals. Trying to say Christian Watson isn’t like that is so crazy. 49% of their snaps! Like get a grip yo. Over 690 total yards and 9 total tds on 49% of snaps! Not even half. Imagine if he played a full season. His % of snaps literally has nothing to do with his potential lol
I'm gonna be watching Christian Watson closely next season because they talking crazy about him.
They said Williams is better than Watson.. huh? He just played more games and was targeted more than Watson only. His route tree may be more developed now, but his impact of defenses isn't on the same level as Watson. If the packers get another receiver to play deep fast, also it's a wrap. There won't be enough recovery time for the defense to stop them on any play.
Joy needs to hide her dislike of Rodgers-she has lost my respect.
Rodgers had NO receivers last year.
And why didn't he have any receivers? Do you forget that the NFL is a salary capped league in which Rodgers demanded to be the highest paid player in. What do you think that does to the rest of the team talent wise?
They ran well? Whoa whoa shady lets chill alil bit. I love that roster myself but lets jus holdon alil
How can the Packers talk about ARod going anywhere when you mess the lineup in past years getting rid of key players that did awesome and complimented ARod's Quarterback style. This is a shame. GO PACK GO
Jets should be actively trying to pursue Lamar Jackson. He's young, their talent is young, that would be perfect match..
Shady makes a good point, the Jets are a really good team that won't have to be carried by Aaron Rodgers. He's not the Aaron Rodgers of old, which means he won't be able to carry a team like he used to. I think they'll definitely be a playoff team, I just don't think they're a super bowl contender with him. I think they would have been better with Derek Carr
So, the jets are a SB team with Carr instead of Rodgers??
The Aaron Rodgers disrespect is crazyyyyyyy
L
Russell Wilson has the 2nd-highest career passer rating (100.3) in NFL history. The only player to top Wilson is Aaron Rodgers who has a career passer rating of 103.1.
Brett went to jets then the Vikings
I was screaming that too!!!
If the Jets get Rodgers then the expectation for the team should only be Super Bowl and go get some players this off-season preferably a brick wall to block for him.
LeSean is right on...Team is already developed in the Jets...
Arod would be movin to a much tougher division
Conpared
Comparing Rodgers to Russ is a wrong path. Seattle coached around Russ. The Packers asked Rodgers to be the team. Not saying Rodgers to NY is a guaranteed success, but he's far and away better than Russ and always has been and always will be. Sorry Joy 🤷🏽♂️
He said and "Myself" at quarterback. LOVE IT! How do you compare Rodgers to Russell Wilson? Turnover prone Favre, who started out 8-3 with the Jets before he got hurt....and Matt Ryan? how to you do that? Rodgers is superior to all of them. WOW!
It comes down to leadership. Brady went all in with the Bucs, is Aaron capable of that? I don’t know. Russell wasn’t and Aaron hasn’t been but he may just need new scenery.
Are they a playoff team? Are we really forgetting that the Bills are in that division? Also.. You know what's gonna happen? Jets have great defense.. Jets trade for a 38 years old-I am thinking about retirement QB diva and WR diva (OBJ), Jets get No.10 pick in 2024 draft, Jets get No.1 pick in 2025 draft..
“Shady” McCoy and I have played in the same number of Super Bowls.
And Mccoy has 2 rings while you have none
I want joy to yell at me all day
Man, I had the same thought !!! well... maybe not "yell", but close. Peace, bro.
Let 25 cook!
soo where is dave at? he he just on vacation?
Shady was fast in the league but is real slow on this show.
Joyce is just a hating dolphins fan get outta here!!!
Man I told my son that's a Patriots fan what if the Jets got Rodgers and OBJ? He almost had a fit😄😄
No Super Bowl with the jets will cut him next year
It amazes me how Josh Allen gets so much respect and has accomplished nothing when it matters. He’s really good, but that’s it. He has mismanaged and blown many games being reckless. He has awesome numbers but has equally had one of the most talented teams in the league the past seasons. It’s a very high chance the Patriots could be last in that division if Aaron goes to the Jets and the Dolphins return healthy.
I agree with everything you said..and it just goes to show how hard it is to win a super bowl..Josh Allen had top 5 offense and top 5 defense multiple times,and still hasn't made a super bowl..so for all those people that think just because Brady had top 15 defense that's why he won 7 💍..is so stupid
Well he's basically the bill running game....A lot of the top AFC teams lack a running game.
what happened to dave
Aaron Rodgers played with a broken thumb, bad ribs, his OL was in and out for most of the year and he had a rookie WRing core.
His play didn't drop off, his health and the talent around him did.
They dont bring up Manning to Broncos because it didnt work the first year lol peep the agenda
Not one person mentioned that trash can of an O-Line that the Jets have. I wonder why.. 🤔
Everyone wants AR12 to go to a mediocre team so that he can end his career in relative silence. If he goes back to GB, the packers at least make the super bowl and another mvp.
"Everyone wants AR12 to go to a mediocre team so that he can end his career in relative silence." It's exactly what the haters want and... might get. For some it's political and personal. Back with the Packers? Not happening. They will be a divisional round team at best with a fully engaged Rodgers.
@@dgskilla6285 conference championship.
Murphy made a pretty bad poker move right there...
I disagree. Murphy is letting it be known they want Rodgers gone for Jordan Love... because that was the plan all along. Why would Rodgers return to an organization/fanbase that doesn't want him?
Shady and Joy… I see sumn there…
We'll have to see if Aaron bounces back or does a crash and burn.
The fact is, people at FS1 are wishing for the latter. Of course, it's not about the vaccine and podcast appearances.
Comparing Aaron Rodgers (arguably the most talented quarterback of all time) to Russel Wilson is so criminal. Russ was never considered on the same level as Brady whereas Aaron was. Compare Aaron this past year to Russ this past year, Russ had better weapons to work with on offense and both teams had a similar defense. Those should be the numbers that are being compared not russ last year in seattle where he had DK and Lockett and this year Aaron had Watson. I will always hate the packers but using a comparison that fits your agenda is pathetic.
THE BILLS ARE OVERRATED
Lamar to the jets you have all young talent
Who cares where he goes