LDV Deliver 9 2021 van review: Cheaper than a Crafter, Transit, Sprinter & Master, but worth it?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มิ.ย. 2024
- The LDV Deliver 9 undercuts the Ford Transit, Mercedes-Benz Sprinter, Renault Master and its other competitors by a big chunk of money, but is this Chinese-made van up to the task? Paul Maric reviews the 2021 LDV Deliver 9 LWB mid-roof to see if the numbers stack up and whether it's a step up over the previous generation LDV van.
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Intro: 00:00
Exterior: 00:58
Cargo Space: 03:17
Interior: 04:13
Infotainment: 05:26
Safety Tech: 06:23
Practicality: 07:36
On the road: 09:49
Verdict: 13:34
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Who cares if it's good, if it forces competitors to lower their prices then it's great.
“Even if you’re putting your apprentices in it, you want it to be safe” hahaha
The man knows his tradies.
Fantastic review as always
Actually looks pretty decent for what it is. My first thougth was Transit or any of the other ig box Euros. My brother seems to enjoy his work bus, it's a LDV G10 that just ticked over 100k. The company just took it to their own mechanic for the first time who was expecting oil leaks etc but was mildly surprised at how clean the engine was. I recollect it's a cummins design if I'm thinking of the right brand
They do an all-electric variant of this van, the air inlet on the bumper is likely to help the drag co-efficient for the EV version - keeps costs down having identical bodies
I'm just gonna call it now. I bet its going to be very popular as a backpackers van. You could either buy a top model Hiace or this. Heaps more space, good connectivity and good ride, even when light in the back.
It makes a very compelling case.
New Hiace has a much smaller payload, over 500kg less. I opted for the Deliver 9.
How are you finding it? I'm considering a D9 LWB
@@LyfordRustic hi mate, I'm considering one too so quite keen to know how it's been for you
That interior looks really nice
It looks just like a Transit
Going of my shoddy memory, I believe FORD has an agreement with LDV to produce this model off the Transit design... so I guess it's a Chans-it?
It has nothing to do with Ford.
The transit's ugly cousin
@@camwinstone LDV's use ford engines and running gear
@@paddyici6629 they use too, my ldv tipper is transit, rots just as bad too, but for the money they do the job and they are reliable well mine has been,.
I think there under rated motors and for a work horse they do the job, as fleet there cheap, ldv making a come back haha
Looks like a good effort and fair value.
These Van's are sold in Asia as a MG, with a massive MG badge on a very blingy chrome grill. They also sell a massive double cab pickup as a MG extender
Hey Paul, would be great if you could do a comparison of the crafter LWB, Sprinter and Renault master?
Initially Paul, I thought the rego was “I SCRAP”!🤣 Obviously a cavernous carrier...probably fit my VW Beetle in the back! For the money, it will suit a lot of buyers who don’t wish to pay a premium. Will be interesting to see crash test, actual real world fuel economy & longevity. That aside China looks like it wants to be a major player & are certainly lifting their game.
The only reason why people are commenting "Looks just like a transit", "Looks like a Chinese copy of the transit", "Oh look. Its a transit with a different grill." the only reason people are saying these things is because it's a small Chinese brand. If this was from a German or Japanese company these comments would not exist. It does not look anything like a Transit, by that logic a Sprinter is also a copy of the Transit... 'It's Chinese and has headlights, a front grill, mirrors?' Oh well it must be a copy! This has more rectangular headlights, a pointer and flatter front end, different front grill shape and material. For a van, it looks nothing like a Transit. Ugh... people.
@Frank Zappa "ugly" subjective, I think it looks as good as any other van. It's a brand new model so you simply cannot call it unreliable.
Thanks 😍 Paul
Been driving 2022 model for 10 days at average of 200 or 300km per day. Agree the active cruise control is sketchy and fully deactivates if facing setting sun. The speed display on this function is ridiculous 2mm small. Apple car play is reasonable but radio cuts out after a phone call and need to replug the usb as a quick fix. I can not get nav volume to speak loud enough when driving. Phone button doesnt automatically dial previous number like other vehicles. Ididnt know about secret storage and will now use. Overall i like it once i got used to it. Not so good on fuel..i get 450km per tank..not 600km at 190cm tall my left knee constantly up against gear shift.
Enjoyable Video 😊 Review 👍. Looks like the Ford Transit
Thank you for your review. Please make a review with D90 4x4.
Great review, loving your stuff guys. Any chance we could get a review of the upcoming current/new Mitsubishi Triton?
Awesome job though from you and the team, keep it up guys!
Thank you! And yes we will try and get our hands on one 😁
hi Paul have you reviewed the ford transit LWB
What do you think about converting this into a camper?
Bruv a new 2021 isuzu mu-x have been released. Can you do a review of it? Then a comparison with other new suv's? Thank you so much
I test drove this van unloaded and loaded. Quality is not there yet. Parts etc ?
Looks a great van
Well done Paul, should test their dual cab ute, be a good comparison to other utes
Hey Paul, are you planning to review the LDV D90? 🤞🤞
Can you do a review of the LDV D90?
I run an LDV people mover for a tourism business. Drivers really well, very comfortable vehicle. Very thirsty petrol engine.
Hi Paul,can you please make a video about D90 diesel SUV. Thanks
2023, in my suburb, its about 3 in 5 new van were from LDV
Hi Paul, could you please make a video for LDV D90, I am very interested in that car.thanks
Thanks got going the LDV review....great value vehicle
hello, please tell me how to check soh batteries on maxus
Hi Paul, can you please do a review on a Mifa 9? It looks really good and the price is decent.
Yeah the fuel door might be clever but that would be because it‘s a straight up copy from the Sprinter. Just like the overlapping badge on the rear doors, clever or not.
Hi Paul, I am waiting for your Skoda Kamiq review, that is on my shortlist. Your reviews answer most of my question which helps me make a decision.
Thanks Jey! Should have one before the end of the year 😁
Anyone know how to adjust the blind spot mirrors..?
Beautiful
I'm looking for a van build for van life. I might put in a little more and buy a new one of this to live in. I'm still 12-18 months away so will keep checking.
Have you made a move or decision on this yet? I've ordered one to do a (albeit very basic) camper conversion on, interested to see what others have done and their likes/dislikes
Looks like a Chinese copy of the transit
I’d rather pay the extra 10k for a proper transit
90% Transit.
It is.
@@conradhaigh2500 And have unless reliability issues with the Ford Transit
We also copy 5G、Ai、E power car which you and US they don't have..Yes，we copy something someone don't have .
Good video as always mate. Not a bad Van . What engine does it use ?
Watch the video again, and then answer your own question.
2 litre turbo diesel
It’s good that a vehicle, even a Chinese vehicle, giving the other brands some competition. My thought is what about parts? Given the political situation parts may not be available in the near future. If I was in the market for a van I’d definitely consider it seriously.
A 10k cheaper price is going to help penetrate the market. However, reliability and dealer/parts support and availability will be big factors in its longer term success. The van has a number of nice features. Currently I am skeptical about it as a number of things look to be done not good enough. I noticed a lot of the cubbies are too small to be useful and a number of details are not up to expected levels. Seems to be a number of ‘cheap’ made bits to it. Some of the dimensions seem to be just a little bit tighter than needed for standard working trade stuff.
I have had one for the last 7 months, already at 75000km on it, so its seen daily use for work. Mechanically the van has been fine and its extremely easy to drive, but I have seen many issues with the electrics. Decent for the price, but will go back to Toyota for the next Van. Servicing has been a nightmare also!
What has your issue been with servicing?
Interesting. Was looking at one yesterday
Just used one on hire and a very good drive it was indeed..Time will tell on reliability of course but for now I can say a nice van for sure..😉
Hi, i am thinking of buying a new ldv deliver 9 high roof, can you tell me it’s a good option?
Hi can you please review vw crafter
What about the guy who reported the steering locking up while driving? Or the myriad of costly issues that have been reported?
I'd like to ask for some advice; I am a large guy. I am looking for a van which I can fit in that will have room in the back to be able to carry a large electric wheelchair, and the ability to me modified to allow the drivers chair to move back further, to give way to the wheelchair. My biggest issue has been that I don't fit in most vans. I don't fit in a toyota hiace or a ford transit. I'm 6 foot 2 and quite heavy and wide. Any advice that doesn't end up saying "lose weight" as being a cripple, that's basically impossible, for my situation.
Total cost of ownership will be higher when you take resale, fuel consumption and reliability into account VS equivalent Ford, Merc or VW van.
i love this chanel .only downside is fairness between brands.i feel alot this chanel is treat big brands like Toyota and ford better and ignore interior build quality.
Does anyone have any knowledge of how these drive long distances motorway miles
I've only heard nightmare stories about ldv from courier drivers. I wish these review channels would review the vehicle after a couple of years of driving it.
Buuuut they are the number one selling van in australia
How about the warranty? The main reason my company bought a Ford Transit was a 7 year / 300 000 km warranty which makes the ownership of the van really cheap compared to pretty much all competitors here in the Czech Republic.
7yr unlimited km
@@craigstevenson7708 Wow, that's a very attractive warranty! The total cost of ownership alone would convince me to buy this van if it was sold in Europe.
@@petrbenda3406 it’s only 3 year warranty idk what craig is talking about
Are you sure its 7 years- Its going to lose Ford money with their gearbox issues . My colleague needed a new box just over 150.000 km at 3 years and Ford refused to pay as it s warranty had expired.
@@michaelf.h8507 Crafter has a 5 year 250 000 km warranty here so it's also a very safe vehicle to buy.
Seems like a decent work vehicle. Would be good to know it’s load capacity and if it rides on leaf or coil springs. Next time you guys should put a load in it. Downer with the half open barn doors and single sided door. Be difficult to load forklift items. I’d still probably buy a more reputable brand.
We mention load capacity in the cargo section. 1640kg of payload capacity. It rides on leaf springs at the rear.
@@CarExpertAus the transit is a maxus so buy maxus 👍
Why would it be hard to load with a forklift?
@@Bigsoot7393 Not all forklifts can extend forks so it helps a lot to have barn doors that can fold back against the body. Makes loading and unloading easier.
@@trainingtheworld5093 why would it matter the forklift only had to drive up flush against back of van?
We are looking at one soon Thanks for the advice 😊
can you do the ute
Are these same engine and drive train as the transit ?
Not even close
Looks like a good vehicle for a heist or high priority target surveillance! 😂
Thinking the same thing surveillance or crew&kit hauler.
Great overall, but i think ill wait untill the reverse camera is better and the infotainment unit can accept android, then ill take one.
Thanks
the reverse camera looks like a spot light
I suggest this
Looks like a really nice car. Resale with commercial vehicles are either really decent for a good example or dead cheap for one that's been thrashed. I expect this to resale quite favourably.
Funny how you compared the turning circle to a Hiace though. Completely different categories.
How is the Hiace a different category? The LWB HiTop is the same style van.
If you're talking about the Euro/UK rebadged Citroen/Peugeot clone you need to wake up and realise this Australian channel refers to the proper Hiace that is sold in the rest of the world.
LDV- Previously LEYLAND DAF VEHICLES. Before that LDV Convoy. And previous the great LEYLAND SHERPA!
Man with a Van jokes start great review Paul
Very nice but like all the guys designing these they have not been delivery drivers doing 50/75 drops a day.
What about a walk through or a flat tray version.
All in all I like it.
How much for electric
Se é for barato é durar 15 anos sem grandes problemas é bem paga!
Test driving one next week.... See what like 🤔
Like the Masonic Badge great for a stonemason!
It'll be more reliable hopefully without a 2L ecoblue engine.... Shame not in xlwb version.
Definitely be a better package with another 1litre on the engine
For a new car company with alot unknown and not to mention Chinese manufacturing, spending an extra 10k or so with a proven and more informative van brand is definitely way to go.
Agree
Technically they aren't a new brand. LDV stands for Leyland DAF Vans, but their initial pre-Chinese ownership offerings were never sold here.
In New Zealand a VW Crafter is nearly double the price. The big vans devalue so much more than the smaller ones why buy the Korean Mercedes or Spanish Crafter.
@@ayrproductions they are a new brand, the only thing that is the same is the name. They are actually SAIC Motor with an LDV badge slapped on so they sound familiar to certain global markets
@@19jacobob93 the brand itself isn’t new. Just the ownership. And they’ve been around for a few years anyway, so not that new either.
how tall are you.?
Ldv used to be British, I think an offshoot of British Leyland and bought out by the Russians and then discarded, but I could be wrong, but were definitely British to start with. The Chinese bought the River and MG names so I guess this follows on.
Leyland Daf Vehicles.
The front looks very similar to a Transit, not sure I'm a huge fan of it personally.
Front transit side crafter rear Hyundai
Excellent car
Copy looks like it but the U.K. transit is built in Turkey now
I'll keep my 21 plate sprinter thanks
How much for electric
Many car park with electric charger
Too tall to go into
Wouldn't like to try squeezing into that middle seat for a 5 hour drive you really do need to address the passenger leg room that looks so bad in that van
The front air vents help to dissipate road spray making it safer for other road users by increasing viability in wet conditions. CAR EXPERT. 🤔
I dunno about you guys, but I really struggle to see how a van is worth over $40k for what is just a 3-seat cabin and just a whole lot of sheet metal for the rest of it. And this is one of the cheapest too!
Yeah, get a Ford AU Falcon instead. Seriously though, I agree it is strange. Perhaps the economies of scale aren't quite there, perhaps some of the cost comes down to the structural strength required for a high load carrying capacity and to design in safety while both laden and unladen.
Companies have money and tax advantages when they buy this. I know of construction companies that build a project of 10-20 million Euros. Vans like this will be bought for the project and be completely written off after the building is finished. Maybe that's in one year. Write off costs are deductible from tax too. The price really does not matter too much. And if you buy lots of them, they are cheaper as well. I know of Renaults for the armed forces that are so cheap new that the MOD makes a profit on resale after 4 years because they buy hundreds at the same time. I think for vans similar things happen for large delivery companies for example.
The commercial van comes with a reliable diesel engine and gearbox. Commercial vehicles are designed to run a very high km in a relatively short time, which requires them to be more durable, and that costs a lot.
It's because they can.
They're aimed at companies. Companies don't care. They can claim tax on everything.
A lot of resources go into making them, and they are expensive to ship. The German brands come with all the car comforts, adaptive cruise control, 6-7 airbags, automatic parking etcetera.
哇哦，中国上汽大通的厢式车VAN已经卖到海外了
Jeep 1924 totally agree
I would pay more for others, as few people had LDV for commercial use and just keep having problems
We’ve got 4 of them and the hubcaps love to fall off. I’ve never seen one that isn’t missing a hubcap
Considering buying one. What are they like loaded to drive? Economy? Mechanically holding up?
@@johnslender5408 just interested to know if you bought one of these? I am thinking of it just looking to get some feedback of them after 20-30,000 miles
@@marklegon6998 a colleague of mine bought one. Has 20k KMs on it. So far so good. Only issue was tyres unbalanced from new. Fixed that up. Cruises well and good fuel economy.
Sorry what I mean is it a an engine made in China 🇨🇳 or made in Europe.
Great for a campervan
Que neumático lleva la Ldv 9
Looks like they ripped of the ford transit body . Im surprisdd ford havent tried sueing for copying them
Looks similar to a transit!!!
Some one said it looks like a Ford transit mk8 can I ask had you your glasses on probly not
Can be customized, camper van on a budget.
40k before you even start the work. That's not what I call budget
I thought camper-van as well, But the Mid-roof isn't enough - I wonder if the High-roof is coming to Oz?
If you took bits of the plastic off it would say Ford on iyn
WARNING THIS REVIEW IS MISLEADING. Please watch the well researched video by John Cadogan tited "DON'T BUY WARNING: The truth about owning an LDV in Australia | Auto Expert John Cadogan". John Cadogan discuses the massive Australian High Court ruling on LDV where the judge labeled LDV as made from "Poor quality steel with rusting inevitable in a short period of time". This carsguide report needs to URGENTLY INCLUDE THESE AUSTRALIAN HIGH COURT FINDINGS.
LDV - Transient
Can’t wait to pick one of these up second hand - load it up with motorcycle gear and head off to the track. The others are so expensive used that it’s not worth doing.
That van in that spec would be illegal to sell in Europe. All vans have to be sold with a bulkhead. They keep noise out, heat and warmth in depending on season, and the main reason of course is safety.
Duty of care will come down to the businesses buying them... which will generally mean it’ll be sold with an additional cargo barrier
Good thing this one is being sold in Australia then.
You see a lot of them with after-market install... For may particular needs, happy it doesn't have one, I'm looking to convert it into a camper, so don't want the barrier, but yes, good that EU regs requires barrier as standard
Best value for money van in the segment!
the ev variant has good reviews
2 times a year clutch gone. It's very good 😂😂
This guy never done any delivery job..... this is perfect for small businesses