How to ward like a Immortal - Warding Spots and Tips Dota 2 Patch 7.33b

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  • @devlong993
    @devlong993 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    1:10 1:32 Laning wards for Dire
    2:20 Laning wards for Radiant
    2:56 Dire wisdom rune ward
    3:20 Radiant wisdom rune ward
    4:12 Top river ward after laning stage
    5:57 Radiant top jungle ward (note: just ward in watchers)
    7:00 Ward for roshan
    8:00 8:20 8:39 11:47 11:55 12:04 Dire top jungle ward
    9:15 9:50 Wards to go high ground
    10:05 10:30 11:15 11:20 11:25 11:30 Radiant bottom jungle ward
    11:40 Radiant top ward
    12:08 Dire bottom ward

    • @brruunno
      @brruunno ปีที่แล้ว

      Great job

  • @yux.561
    @yux.561 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    saw this on reddit, instantly clicked it. didn't regret any single part of it. great vid! thanks for this.

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No problem 👍

  • @Serenity5460
    @Serenity5460 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Dude, that saves me so much experimental time. Thanks for sharing your thouhgts, very clever wards!

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem :)

  • @novapreem6650
    @novapreem6650 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If you’re radiant and defending bottom lane (night time) there is a spot just near the tower where you can place a ward so you’ll be able to see through the fog of war and initiate properly.

  • @andriivarfolomieiev856
    @andriivarfolomieiev856 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Defenders gate wards look almost like cheating. Awesome work! Thank you for sharing. I just can add that on dire highground there is a place for a ward between the edge of the map and tower vision range on the top lane (very close to the stairs) that gives crazy amount of vision and a better alternative to a normal ward placed between top and middle towers.

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree!

    • @MenuDota
      @MenuDota ปีที่แล้ว

      where exactly?

    • @Aegiskarmad17
      @Aegiskarmad17 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MenuDota 8:21 There !! walk to highground by the forest and place it

  • @adamfink8958
    @adamfink8958 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is such a good video. I’ve been waiting for a ward video forever from someone, so I’m glad I stumbled across your channel. Thanks for the help!

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem sir. And thank you for the Support!

  • @manuelmarce2544
    @manuelmarce2544 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My ally Techies showed me the ward spot at 10:34 and that was goddamned genius. Won't get dewarded easily, still offers highground vision, and also shows the lane.

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree

    • @kjyu
      @kjyu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this ward spot was used in the Liquid vs XG series today too!

    • @rev9115
      @rev9115 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Miss old techies days when I custom for a hour to search cheesy bomb places every new map comes out😢😢

  • @credmlai2867
    @credmlai2867 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:26 you can put sentry at the lower cliff to block tree grow back. upper vision get maximized.

  • @ilatanarnie24
    @ilatanarnie24 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    got good spot on the dire large camp. Good in mid to late game. right hand side of the camp can see a lot of area as well

  • @oscargonzalez3599
    @oscargonzalez3599 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    For the Watcher thing: I think we need to see it like a free Ward, so as always, add a sentry, don't only take the watcher, the watcher is already doing the job of the ward (vision) you just need detection and there, you can actually feel safe, also this would counter what 5updota is suggestion (note: not saying that his strategy is bad, just commenting on how to counter if the enemy is doing it)

    • @kooroshrostami27
      @kooroshrostami27 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the point is that the enemy can see when you take the watcher. If you don't take it and put a ward, they don't know. This psychology only works as long as it is not expected though. I reckon that soon enough even at the lower level people will adopt this strategy and then putting a sentry on top of the currently relevant watchers will become the dewarding meta and then warding them will be useless. Probably just a matter of time.

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      No. Because the sentry game got nerfed a lot.
      Plus people are dewarding cliffs 100 times more then watchers at any point. Because cliffs usually gives way more vision then watched positions.

    • @hulahula6182
      @hulahula6182 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Doesn't watcher reveal invisible units?

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hulahula6182 nope

  • @PandiTheBear
    @PandiTheBear ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a mid player, I try to only keep one word around the five minute mark so I can get the first power rune. Or, sometimes whenever it’s sniper or SF that’s sitting in the fog, high ground that I can use to pull the lane, I may get award a little earlier. If you don’t have vision and can’t pull the way back, you’re going to have a bad time Ed.

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends what ur playing. In some matchups its really good to not have a ward on mid so the enemy cant pull the wave because you dont have highground vision.

  • @eukelard
    @eukelard 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this video has convinced me i need to start a bot game and just run around with a ward ready to place all over the map.. im a very very new player but still after seeing your thought process and placements theres just so much to consider...

  • @kitwowo9678
    @kitwowo9678 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hats off for this new warding guide 🤣. Keep it up

  • @thebogeyman09
    @thebogeyman09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. At this point, the map is so big that I think getting a gem past20 min is the only way to actually deward one side of the map. Then start playing hot potato in team fights with the gem

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      True true ^^ or you just play with your courier a lot and sending it back everytime u checked 1 area

  • @Hemskelol
    @Hemskelol ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hah, the first one (Lotus Ward) is my new favorite lane ward. Been using it since day 1, people don’t expect it.

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree 👍

  • @GA_Peaches
    @GA_Peaches 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great guide

  • @flu-flam-a-opp
    @flu-flam-a-opp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:50 is the wrong way to think about it. What you do is warp to the opposite lane and plant the ward there since that scouts both warp usage and outpost teleports.

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the point on dire.
      People usually atleast in high MMR games don't go this way. They go for the left way because it's not like on radiant that you can just walk through the trees that easily.

  • @floofs1499
    @floofs1499 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    U can also ward outside creep camp on high ground near top dire t2 tower .

  • @mandakhbayar.m8298
    @mandakhbayar.m8298 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, please make a position 4 mirana rank up guide, i am a mirana main and i would love if you make a video about that hero, thank you.

  • @allenwokar1092
    @allenwokar1092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "most people don't know about it" now people knowing about it xD thanks for the tips i didn't know how to trick ward in the new map

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      Only the people that watched the video know about it 👀

    • @allenwokar1092
      @allenwokar1092 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@5updota indeed 😁

  • @هوشنگراضینژاد
    @هوشنگراضینژاد ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ty bro I'm rly ancint 4 you are rly so good and you chang my mind ty for all

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      No problem sir

  • @dlegend1123
    @dlegend1123 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    learn a number of super ward from this video, thanks!

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem sir! Thx for the Support

  • @shashvin8504
    @shashvin8504 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is underrated fr 💯

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thx sir!!

  • @ibrahimsalman5504
    @ibrahimsalman5504 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great channel bro, keep it up😊

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you 🙏

  • @AlexandrFrunza
    @AlexandrFrunza 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    op wards, thank you

  • @MgMast3r
    @MgMast3r ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heavily underrated vid, tho' what rank do you think this starts being more useful? (the deeper warding at least) Cause I've still been playing around on a new acc in unranked pubs atm as I'm a returning player from 3 yrs ago and ppl barely remember to take bounties atm, lol. Like, until certain ranks at least, I expect folks to be so blind that they don't make use of the vision you set-up for 'em, also making those deep wards where you put yourself at risk putting down, haha.

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Think about wards more like "yeah my team should use them" but if they dont really care about it just abuse them for urself and try to play around it alot if you can :)

  • @xiehanfoo
    @xiehanfoo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great content and guide

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

  • @zacheryswearingim7360
    @zacheryswearingim7360 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    only bad part about this video is that im not the only one seeing it haha:P great video thanks for the guide!!

    • @zacheryswearingim7360
      @zacheryswearingim7360 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      also how long does it take a tree to respawn after being cut/destroyed?????

    • @5updota
      @5updota  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      3 Mins but if you place a ward on the tree position then the tree doesn't respawn until the ward is out👍

    • @zacheryswearingim7360
      @zacheryswearingim7360 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @5updota wow thanks for the reply your great!

  • @Zaipoggers
    @Zaipoggers ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job mate, amazing video

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you 👍

  • @Voicesinme
    @Voicesinme ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is a very good video in maow opinion

  • @WengGod
    @WengGod ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the tips bro!

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      No problem, thanks for the Support!

  • @talhahussain1302
    @talhahussain1302 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    suscribe suscribe suscribe, u got me at 1st ward

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao, thank you sir

  • @ogjoepat
    @ogjoepat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wouldn't cutting 3:00 be a giveaway that the bridge is warded?

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not really people doesnt even realize if the tree is missing :)

  • @snoober6690
    @snoober6690 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    maybe it's ok to ward cliffs sometimes like if you don't think the other team expected you to be able to get to an area (maybe you smoked or were able to get to a risky spot early and unexpectedly). since there are less sents available overall you can get away with it sometimes. esp if there are invis heros on your team. i dunno im not a high level player though so maybe that's why in my lower bracket i think this

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      You can do whatever u want. But chances are way higher that people check cliffs randomly then other spots on the map.

  • @frostyd0052
    @frostyd0052 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank bro. i won my first game using ur strat.

  • @GenjaOrigins
    @GenjaOrigins ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i ward portals when i want secure roshan or know when they take it.

  • @SolMrBadGuy
    @SolMrBadGuy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Warding behind Radiant tier 1 highground is too good of a ward. on the right side. near the stairs

  • @grantderepas6234
    @grantderepas6234 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would you consider picking up a quelling essential now for warding? It seems like so many good ward spots need trees cut

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you plan on doing these kind of wards in any game u can actually go quelling every game.
      It's not expensive and it also helps you out push or farm waves.

  • @gvulture1277
    @gvulture1277 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Thanks!

  • @slahserTV
    @slahserTV ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you speed the game up/set the timer to say 40 mins? I want to test tormentors but sucks waiting 20 mins

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Puh I know there is a command for it but IDK :D I went afk before the video and thats how I got the 40 MIN lmaooo

    • @kjyu
      @kjyu ปีที่แล้ว

      host_timescale for faster game clock
      there is a command to spawn tormentors
      dota_create_unit npc_dota_miniboss enemy

  • @soto.diego1
    @soto.diego1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    amazing video mate! can i just ask what happen to the wards you plant on the hills with trees (the ones you have to cut the tree) when the tree reaappears? do they lose almost all the vision or do they stll get the same vision? thx for sharing!

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not 100% sure but I think if u place a ward plus a sentry, the tree will not comeback for 7 min. (Sentry duration)

  • @Sheyl3319
    @Sheyl3319 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you recommend buying quelling blade/tango for support for some of these ward spots 😂?

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends usually the 5 gets it.
      Or you play a hero that can do it with spells :D

  • @ranamoeni6595
    @ranamoeni6595 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am little angry now! Why didn't I think about these ward positions ???? Really helpful video btw

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      Stay calm^^ and no problem :)

  • @chowmanxeunn4753
    @chowmanxeunn4753 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would like to ask if you cut a tree thats on cliff, could enemies spot the trees missing?

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only if they high ground ward the cliff on the left or if they get spells that can scout the high ground.

    • @chowmanxeunn4753
      @chowmanxeunn4753 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@5updota Thanks! Always thought it'd show on the map so never tried warding at spots that requires cutting trees!

  • @plopplop.
    @plopplop. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A ward for mid is necessary because the waves meet in a low-ground.

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am not saying that a midward is bad.
      But in most of the matchups u dont really want a mid ward so the enemy cant pull ur wave.
      And im sure its not necessary every single game^^

    • @Stevo3s1x0
      @Stevo3s1x0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@5updota could you elaborate on this a bit please?How does a friendly mid ward let the enemy pull creeps?

    • @plopplop.
      @plopplop. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Stevo3s1x0 your creeps will have vision on the hero and the enemy can then pull aggro.

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because your creeps can see the enemy and If he aggros on you or your teammates the creeps will follow him.
      If there is no ward the creeps will not aggro and stay in the low ground. And u can abuse that in some matchups a lot.

  • @icata12345
    @icata12345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i should really stop warding this cliffs, if we move out of the area in 2mins everything is dewarded.

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a habit, but thinking about it to not do it helps a lot.

  • @birk5989
    @birk5989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As you can SEE I can SEE

  • @xdesertx
    @xdesertx ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Since some of this ward spots require cutting down trees, should you as a pos5 or 4 support buy a Quelling Blade at some point into the game and keep it only for that reason?

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depends on you. You can go for it but its not a must every game.
      For example im playing a lot of heroes that can destroy trees so the quelling is kinda ussles :D

  • @abra.hui.
    @abra.hui. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No longer active in Dota, so what do you mean by cutting trees? because in the past, those trees will regrow after minute, so today, it will no longer grow back after you put some ward?

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      They do regrow after 3 min. But if you put a sentry on the place of the tree then the tree will not grow back until the ward is gone👍

  • @jase7083
    @jase7083 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love it thanks

  • @hoseinbebany
    @hoseinbebany ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ty

  • @guilhermevidotti560
    @guilhermevidotti560 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video!

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you :)

  • @Gamagamer-mx8rv
    @Gamagamer-mx8rv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in herald no one even buy sentry XD just put it up and you have it until the time of it end

  • @marksun4292
    @marksun4292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    watcher cant see invis? dam didnt know that lol

  • @lmclrain
    @lmclrain ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is great, I am here cause of your techies video, I found on reddit. I think it would also be cooler if you'd show your face on your videos, that way people will associate it to your content, way to many dota videos, the thumbnail would also help. I hope to see more like this maybe even in context that would be better.

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I actually don't like it showing myself on cam i don't know why :D
      But I don't wanna stress myself out so I will not be planning on doing that.
      Plus I'm working on a different type of video style right now so be aware for this Sundays video 🤝

  • @fikmomo9140
    @fikmomo9140 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How long for the tree to respawn?

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      3 min but u can put a sentry on the lower tree so it doesn't respawn for 7 mins

  • @anastasyahalperin5851
    @anastasyahalperin5851 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Спасибо за информацию :)

  • @tenchouhateinentraumhaften3875
    @tenchouhateinentraumhaften3875 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG... I hate you bro~ Now it is way harder to deward in my games.
    Just kidding~ Very nice vid, awesome warding spots.

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thx sir!

  • @yokisullivan8647
    @yokisullivan8647 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    does watcher not give true sight?

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope they dont

  • @jonasimbolon5860
    @jonasimbolon5860 ปีที่แล้ว

    how can I practice hero using that maps?

  • @ajmg1993
    @ajmg1993 ปีที่แล้ว

    GUTEN TAG

  • @guru_lakhima
    @guru_lakhima ปีที่แล้ว

    > 2:25 PLEASE avoid placing wards on the portal
    > 7:00

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looks like you did not understand the video 🤝

  • @atriumarsitekstudio6469
    @atriumarsitekstudio6469 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    not really working in herald lol

  • @dotatvgaming1601
    @dotatvgaming1601 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if everybody ward like a immortal is better to ward like a herald in immortal game :D ...

  • @hatersgonahate8330
    @hatersgonahate8330 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just ur opinion

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct

  • @XDnomis
    @XDnomis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    actually broken

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      True true

  • @IamCrystalwings
    @IamCrystalwings ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh so they weren’t cheating 😂

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      Who?

    • @IamCrystalwings
      @IamCrystalwings ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well in the last few games I was getting caught like a dumbass and I never knew these spots so thank you man🤣

  • @RetardatorBuzman
    @RetardatorBuzman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did not watch the video, I just saw the thumbnail and come on... The ward has eye, put the glasses on it. I'm just so angered rn.

  • @TheDayStarsFell
    @TheDayStarsFell ปีที่แล้ว +1

    super helpful thank you

    • @5updota
      @5updota  ปีที่แล้ว

      No problemo!