Szanowna Pani Agata Pyzik, dziękuję Pani za podjęcie tematu wizyty David Bowie we Warszawie, o której to wiedziałem w owym czasie, zastanawiając się w którym hotelu David Bowie zamieszkał [myślałem, że w "Forum", który istnieje, choć pod inną nazwą]. Wiedziałem też o Jego wizycie w Moskwie [oglądałem zdjęcia z Placu Czerwonego z tejże wizyty w pewnym piśmie, którego nazwy nie pamiętam; no cóż "starość nie radość a młodość nie wieczność"]. Pozdrawiam, A.Y.
David got impressed by the folk album he bought in Warszawa. The walk is about 15 minutes - you should mention this important piece of info for xxx sake - which is a testament to his being really daring.The train leaves in no more than 2 hours (I doubt the 40 minute option - then Bowie would not walk away for SOOO long (it is more than 1 kilometer from the station where he buys the LP and turns back!). Thanx
Thank you. Brilliantly educational and insightful. David always said that the lyrics were taken by ear from a Hungarian radio broadcast, but I think your superior knowledge has caught Him out. I, for one. would love to hear the full version of that Polish folk music that You uncovered. Please post it and let me know when I can hear it. Thank you.
Few words from an old man, remembering Warsaw those times :) Bowie couldn't see communistic architecture, because there wasn't communistic archtecture almost at all near around the Warszawa Gdańska station, except building of this station itself. By the way - building of Warszawa Gdańska station has been built as a temporary ersatz but in People's Republic ersatzes were the most lasting target solutions :) In fact, Warszawa Gdańska station in 70-ies, was surrounded by... emptiness with bushes, rail and industry infrastructure, here and there... Rather unpleasant neighbourhood. But when we talk about Żoliborz district, the matter is slighlty different. Żoliborz, together with included Wilson Square have been built before war and it wansn't damaged during and after Warsaw Uprising in 1944. The photograph of Prosta Str in 6:02 pictures rather modernistic habitats (nota bene: built directly upon old tenements' ruins) than communistic (socrealistic) ones. But the matter is that they are too far from Warszawa Gdaska, so Bowie might see them. The same: the only hightower in Warsaw in that time - socrealistic Palace of Culture and Science (name of J. Stalin, visible in 06:02) was too far from there. So what David Bowie might really have seen? He might have seen city in grey, city, which was killed, damaged and enslaved, haunted by the ghosts of past. City, inhabitated by grey people with no happiness, no hope, no future... That exactly were communistic times and thet exactly Bowie's masterpiece called Warszawa is: beautifull, but sad, noble but painfull, melow but grave. Despite of all, it's great, that Poles look after the story about Bowie in Warsaw. The Bowie was great artist, story itself is interesting and uncommon and music still remains as gorgeus. Good job.
Pamiętam jego z tamtych lat. Słuchałam jego piosenki. Jedno co utkwiło mi to te oczy i surowe spojrzenie. No i ta powiedzmy wizjonerska piosenka Blek star bodajże
Idąc od Dworca Gdańskiego w kierunku Żoliborza mija się budynki w stylu modernistycznym zbudowane w okresie międzywojennym. Nie ma tam raczej budynków w stylu socrealizmu.
Zgadza się. Większość Żoliborza, włączając Plac Inwalidów i Plac Wilsona to zabudowa przedwojenna. Co do architektury Dworca Gdańskiego - Bowie widział, dziś już nieistniejący w tej formie budynek ukończony w 1959. Betonowy? Zgoda. Ale taka architektura panowała wtedy w Europie. Patrz: Royal Festival Hall w Londynie. Na dodatek pani Pyzik ostentacyjnie nadużywa słowa „komunistyczny”. Komunistyczna architektura, komunistyczna księgarnia EMPiK, komunistyczny zespół Śląsk… komunistyczna Komuna Paryska.
But too much of this interpretation is based on hypothesis. It might make more sense to surmise that Bowie would have made his way to Muranów, site of the greater part of the wartime Warsaw Ghetto; flattened after the Jewish Uprising and half-re-built from scratch under the Stalinist regime - including the main street then named after M. Nowotko (today's General W. Anders St). Besides, the Gdańsk Station is situated in Śródmieście=the City Centre, not nearby Żoliborz which then involved a longer walk to reach built-up streets. It's been suggested he stayed in Warsaw longer than the hour or so and with his Soviet visa was able to spend a night or more there in transit. Having played with a Nazi fad, he must have read up about the city's fate in 1939-1945 and then added his own impressions of the Brave-New City in situ. Brian Eno played a key part in actually composing "Warszawa".
Legenda głosi że za drugim razem gdy David Bowie wyjeżdżał ze stacji Warszawa Gdańska poszedł do kibla żeby postawić klocka. Dlaczego nic się o tym nie mówi??
![[Part 1] รักมาไม่ทันตั้งตัว❤ หนุ่มสาวโสดถูกจับมาแต่งงานกันกะทันหัน แถมเธอยังเป็นหัวหน้าของเขา?!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/y2pOOMkuFI0/mqdefault.jpg)
Fantastic analysis.
Totally amazing and mind blowing documentary ... well done to everyone who made this possible
The man was a genius.... R.I.P. Mr David Bowie....
Proszę przeczytać książkę Doroty Masłowskiej "Bowie w Warszawie" a dowiecie sie jak to Bowie kupił ten album Śląska :)
So glad to have watched this. Bowie had the wit to unveil the beauty of things that many of us would not see with naked eyes.
Thank you so much Agata and everyone involved. I've been there many times and had no idea.
Wow thanks for making & sharing this. It was great to see & that mural on the side of the building is amazing!
“There is no song called Berlin” - partially true. There’s a song in “Heroes” called “Neuköln” which refers to a borough of Berlin.
Szanowna Pani Agata Pyzik, dziękuję Pani za podjęcie tematu wizyty David Bowie we Warszawie, o której to wiedziałem w owym czasie, zastanawiając się w którym hotelu David Bowie zamieszkał [myślałem, że w "Forum", który istnieje, choć pod inną nazwą]. Wiedziałem też o Jego wizycie w Moskwie [oglądałem zdjęcia z Placu Czerwonego z tejże wizyty w pewnym piśmie, którego nazwy nie pamiętam; no cóż "starość nie radość a młodość nie wieczność"]. Pozdrawiam, A.Y.
David got impressed by the folk album he bought in Warszawa. The walk is about 15 minutes - you should mention this important piece of info for xxx sake - which is a testament to his being really daring.The train leaves in no more than 2 hours (I doubt the 40 minute option - then Bowie would not walk away for SOOO long (it is more than 1 kilometer from the station where he buys the LP and turns back!). Thanx
I would love to watch this again, ..again, and again, thank you so much
London in David childhood years wasn't bright either. So a highly sensitive Person feels that spirit .
Very well done! interesting to see bowie's 'playful' borrowing of the polish folk group's harmonies :O
Beautiful.
Jejku mieszkam tu i nie miałam o tym pojęcia! 🖤🖤😍
Thank you. Brilliantly educational and insightful. David always said that the lyrics were taken by ear from a Hungarian radio broadcast, but I think your superior knowledge has caught Him out. I, for one. would love to hear the full version of that Polish folk music that You uncovered. Please post it and let me know when I can hear it. Thank you.
Few words from an old man, remembering Warsaw those times :)
Bowie couldn't see communistic architecture, because there wasn't communistic archtecture almost at all near around the Warszawa Gdańska station, except building of this station itself. By the way - building of Warszawa Gdańska station has been built as a temporary ersatz but in People's Republic ersatzes were the most lasting target solutions :) In fact, Warszawa Gdańska station in 70-ies, was surrounded by... emptiness with bushes, rail and industry infrastructure, here and there... Rather unpleasant neighbourhood.
But when we talk about Żoliborz district, the matter is slighlty different. Żoliborz, together with included Wilson Square have been built before war and it wansn't damaged during and after Warsaw Uprising in 1944. The photograph of Prosta Str in 6:02 pictures rather modernistic habitats (nota bene: built directly upon old tenements' ruins) than communistic (socrealistic) ones. But the matter is that they are too far from Warszawa Gdaska, so Bowie might see them. The same: the only hightower in Warsaw in that time - socrealistic Palace of Culture and Science (name of J. Stalin, visible in 06:02) was too far from there.
So what David Bowie might really have seen? He might have seen city in grey, city, which was killed, damaged and enslaved, haunted by the ghosts of past. City, inhabitated by grey people with no happiness, no hope, no future... That exactly were communistic times and thet exactly Bowie's masterpiece called Warszawa is: beautifull, but sad, noble but painfull, melow but grave.
Despite of all, it's great, that Poles look after the story about Bowie in Warsaw. The Bowie was great artist, story itself is interesting and uncommon and music still remains as gorgeus.
Good job.
Thanks Bowie, Thanks Eno
And Visconti. He probably did more than people think.
Ponad pół wieku żyję na tym świecie, a tak mało wciąż wiem... :) :) Kapitalne zdjęcia, muzyka... Kolejne furtki w mojej głowie otwarte. Dzięki!
Pamiętam jego z tamtych lat. Słuchałam jego piosenki. Jedno co utkwiło mi to te oczy i surowe spojrzenie. No i ta powiedzmy wizjonerska piosenka Blek star bodajże
Dziękuję i pozdrawiam.
Wow that polish folk song really does sound like the vocal bit from the song warszawa. Mind blowing.
Warsaw is an amazing city, the Royal Route looks like Real Life Disney World Main Street!
Bardzo, bardzo dziękuję .Znałem tą historię wizyty Davida Bowie w Warszawie ale nie tak szczegółowo jeśli można tak powiedzieć o legendarnym spacerze.
Idąc od Dworca Gdańskiego w kierunku Żoliborza mija się budynki w stylu modernistycznym zbudowane w okresie międzywojennym. Nie ma tam raczej budynków w stylu socrealizmu.
Zgadza się. Większość Żoliborza, włączając Plac Inwalidów i Plac Wilsona to zabudowa przedwojenna. Co do architektury Dworca Gdańskiego - Bowie widział, dziś już nieistniejący w tej formie budynek ukończony w 1959. Betonowy? Zgoda. Ale taka architektura panowała wtedy w Europie. Patrz: Royal Festival Hall w Londynie. Na dodatek pani Pyzik ostentacyjnie nadużywa słowa „komunistyczny”. Komunistyczna architektura, komunistyczna księgarnia EMPiK, komunistyczny zespół Śląsk… komunistyczna Komuna Paryska.
Well Lou Reed wrote a song called Berlin and he never been there.
There is a Berlin in everyone. 😂
and?
But too much of this interpretation is based on hypothesis. It might make more sense to surmise that Bowie would have made his way to Muranów, site of the greater part of the wartime Warsaw Ghetto; flattened after the Jewish Uprising and half-re-built from scratch under the Stalinist regime - including the main street then named after M. Nowotko (today's General W. Anders St). Besides, the Gdańsk Station is situated in Śródmieście=the City Centre, not nearby Żoliborz which then involved a longer walk to reach built-up streets. It's been suggested he stayed in Warsaw longer than the hour or so and with his Soviet visa was able to spend a night or more there in transit. Having played with a Nazi fad, he must have read up about the city's fate in 1939-1945 and then added his own impressions of the Brave-New City in situ. Brian Eno played a key part in actually composing "Warszawa".
Best
Did Bowie fly sometimes?
Yes, he did. Sometimes he used airplanes and sometimes he took boats and trains. He did not like to fly, but he flew when he had to.
@@miki03soimu thanks. Winter again, time to watch DB.
i thnk that fear was just his druggy paranoia and he got over that after berlin.
Auhag😱
Legenda głosi że za drugim razem gdy David Bowie wyjeżdżał ze stacji Warszawa Gdańska poszedł do kibla żeby postawić klocka. Dlaczego nic się o tym nie mówi??
Bo jak to za komuny w tym kiblu nie było papieru.
Józef Tkaczuk
Nie rób z siebie błazna, ignorancie. Pozdrawiam.
bo wszystkich obowiązywał zakaz korzystania z ustępu podczas postoju pociągu na stacji ... Bez wyjątku! ;)
Wsiór z ciebie . Idź sobie disco polo posłuchaj wieśniaku
if it's Culture Poland show us the steps of Bodo or Niemen - who cares about Bowie?
I do. ;) Have some respect to the Starman.
I do as well :)
Er, millions of people ? 😉
Niemen gives me earache too 😮
Who cares about Warszawa? Clearly Bowie did.