The Woes of the Euphonium Player (featuring Jupiter)
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- Join me and my sub-mediocre skills while I whine incessantly about completely meaningless problems, along with a little bit of Holst.
Here is where you find the music which I very poorly attempted: musescore.com/... - เพลง
I apologize for my microphone at the end there, I just don't know how to make TH-cam videos.
You should cover the southern style of euphonium playing. Look up schools like Talladega college, Southern university, and Jackson state university (even though they use baritones) we deserve love too 😭
Do you have a link to the arrangement of Gabriel's oboe that as being played in the background before Jupiter? Thanks!
At the beginning of this video you almost got me right. I'm actually a bass clarinet player who switched over from clarinet because there wasn't enough bass in our band. But at least I can say I'm in orchestras because of clarinet.
Invest in a Sennheiser MD 421. Used. about $400. Use a Boom stand , mic no closer than 3ft from bell top.
I am glad I am just a normal trumpet player
If I had a nickel for every time I’ve had to call it a “baby/mini/half-sized tuba,” I would be able to afford a compensating horn.
Until then, I’m stuck with the small bore three valve horn I’ve been playing since the sixth grade.
literally same bro
Technically, it's a tenor tuba. Has the same bore taper and everything.
I like to think of it as a wind cello. It should be able to play all the cello suites.
I always go with "a small tuba that sounds like a mix of a saxophone and tuba"
I call it a great value brand tuba 🤣
I call it a big trumpet simply because I chose to play Treble Clef
I’m tried of having to explain to my family members or friends what a euphonium is when they ask what instrument I play 🗿
It’s a TINY TUBA
Or a trumpet on steroids
Its a BaBy TuBa
Baby tuba with trombone range😢😢😢😢😢
@@gmoneybags9 certain pieces I played in high school had euph accompany the tuba with pedal tones, and other pieces had me in the French horn range.
Naahhhh, superior to Trombone in many ways. Literally has way better range capablities than a Trombone
As the only Euphonium player in my high school…
I feel your pain. We must unite, brothers and sisters
This is my last year in my high school as a baritone and euphoneium player 😭😭😭😖
I just started Middle school and I play Euph. I can empathize
Grade 7 band 2 clarinets 3 flute 3 trumpet 3 sax 3 trombone 1 euphonium (me) my teachers a tuba player
YES
yes
I chose to play euphonium from my middle school beginnings. i whole heartedly agree, euphoniums are underrated and need to be featured more.
I'm in the same boat as you, I wanted to play the flute but I tried out a bunch of instruments and I got scored on each they said Euphonium was my best score so I went with that. I do not regret it, I love my euphonium. Though I play trombone and try to learn the bassoon, Euphonium will always be my number 1.
@@RandoGuy euphonium is a good basis for learning alot of different instruments. Like for me I started learning trumpet in highschool and it's basically the same as the euph so it was easy to learn. Cello was easy for me to learn because I already had know base clef. Piano is also a good instruemnt for any euph player to know because euph players play in both bass and treble. Let's just say euph is awesome
Agreeeeee. Fell in love in 5th grade
Same, we need to unite
Good lord be careful what you wish for. 🤣 I’m in college now and prayed for better euphonium parts and BOY DID I GET EM. I have never played more complicated music in my life and have more solos and melodies. We had a piece were we had 32nd note runs at 189 bpm. Was it hard as crap? Yes was it better than normal euphonium music? Also yes
"Tuba?
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Ooohhh, you mean a big euphonium?"
Underrated comment 😂
It’s weird, even though the euphonium isn’t well known and is more obscure, I love it. I love the fact that it’s not an instrument you see everyday and people are genuinely interested when you tell them what it is. You could be a basic trumpet player, or a mysterious euphonium player lol
Exactly this is why I choose to play the euphonium instead of a trumpet
@@mooron394I chose both
Actually I started off being sparked on to the Bellfront euphonium, I volunteered to do Tuba as the only Tuba player was graduating that year so I started Tuba at the end of freshman year, and we'll yeah now 7 years later I play Euph and double on Tuba =)
As a euphonium player. This video is very accurate and amazing.
Yes
Amen. I felt good to hear my own thoughts voiced.
3 main differences between Tuba and Euphonium:
1. Euphonium is smaller
2. Euphonium play higher notes
3. If you call an Euphonium "Tuba" I will punch you
Or baritone.
My biggest pet peeve is "oh so it's a baritone!" NO.
@@auto.36 "LOOK AT THE GOD DAMN BELL"
@wHaT's A eUpHoNiUm? I adore your username
(Tenor) tuba
As a tuba player I can agree that calling a euphonium a tuba is a sin
I started on the baritone and switched to euphonium. You presented a really great short history of the instrument. I always wanted to be a doctor, so I had no illusions about playing the instrument professionally even though I could play the Mendelssohn Concerto on it while still in high school. The problem was that because Euphonium was so late evolving that very little was really great or original was written for the instrument. While playing Saint-Saens' Introduction and Rondo Capriccioso on the Euphonium is technically demanding, it was written for violin. On the euphonium it isn't considered music so much as it is a freak show. I have been a doctor for almost 48 years and the freak show part still hasn't changed. I think I made the right choice although I still love the instrument.
on god this video slaps
Do you know what a Treble Clef Euphonium player is actually? (A disappointed trumpet, of course)
5:11 this literally happened to me 3 days ago this is so sad. I was surprised to know that there's actually a lot of euphonium/baritone players at my middle school and was shocked to find out that the high school im going to next year only has one. good to know that my friends that play with me are all going to the same highschool and we're gonna be the best god damn euphonium players the band has ever seen
Inspiring. I am going into 10th grade, and the rest of the euphoniums I met in 9th grade are all gonna be seniors. I am gonna be stuck with noobie freshmen next year
"Oh, your in a band? What instrument do you play?" - "I play a Euphonium" - "A what?" - "It's like a mini tuba [Sigh that says this happens too often]" This is me everytime, only one person I've met before actually knows what it is, all the others I've had to say "It looks like a mini tuba but doesn't sound like a tuba" with a look that says I'm tired of it. I type too much-
I never played euphonium in school, graduated in 2003. I played the baritone horn, but just recently, as in the last three days I bought one and have been playing better than our local tone deaf trombone player.😂
A trombone is only a wind-driven, manually operated, pitch approximator.
if i got a nickel for every time i’ve had to call the euphonium a baby tuba or a baritone…
id own my own euphonium
edit: heck- if i had a nickel for every time the band director seemingly forgot about us alone i’d have my own euph
i can tell you, band directors forgetting about us never changes.
i play in one of the best youth brass bands in my country, but we still get forgotten. we have four pages while everybody else has two because we just have that many difficult runs and shit? yeah, we don't get to play half the rehearsal because the runs are distracting.
i also play in a brass band with adults that is on a bit of a lower level. there, we never get praise for good things and the only corrections we get is when we're too fast because we're the only ones who notoriously always practice because we know we're one of the carrying parts in the band. fun times :D
(this sounded way more bitter than i meant to, i'm not actually angry, it was meant to be funny)
When I played trumpet, the director would also forget us. I think brass is just forgotten and also the least appreciated… but I may be biased haha. I also get forgotten when I switched to euphonium. It’s nice to know that these types of stuff are shared experiences that every euphonium player have lol
Holy shit he got everything on point about how I started playing euphonium
Ikr??? Lolol I was so surprised he got everything down
At first I wanted to play the clarinet because my dad liked the clarinet, one of my best friend played the clarinet, and I liked the sound of it. However, my mother liked the trumpet, and mom's love of the trumpet trumped dad's love of the clarinet, so I decided I wanted to play the trumpet. However, when it was actually time to start playing in the band in 7th grade the school didn't supply trumpets, and my parents decided they couldn't afford to buy a trumpet, so I went with a school rental instrument, and my band teacher "awarded" me a front action bell forward baritone horn, which is really more euphonium than baritone.
I played that for a year and a half, and advanced fairly fast on it. Then my parents bought me a cornet, whereupon I switched, and my playing and interest started drifting down hill. When I started high school I switched back to baritone horn, mainly so I could get into the advanced band instead of being in the intermediate band. I only stayed in band for one year and then had to drop out due to schedule conflicts.
Ever since then, and over the decades, every once in a while I would noodle on the cornet or trumpet (which I acquired along the way), and then about three years ago I bought a euphonium and realized that I was really a euphonium player pretending to be a trumpet player, so I have been taking lessons trying to catch up on my playing and have hardly touched the trumpet since then. To be honest, I'm still not very good at it, but I'm improving, and it's clear that euphonium is really my instrument.
As someone that still plays the euphonium at the college level via the university's marching band's wind ensemble called "Campus Band" (for the university's marching band, I play the interchangeable version of that instrument called the marching baritone), this hit home for me, but in a different way. In 6th grade, I actually originally wanted to play the trumpet for my middle school's marching band, but after the band director found out that the trumpet mouthpiece was way too small for my lips (other contributing factors were that he knew I wanted to play something with valves but the french horn was out of the picture because the mouthpiece is smaller than the trumpet mouthpiece and I'm not physically built to be a tuba player; also my band had a shortage of euphonium players as well), he gave me the euphonium and I was able to produce a sound out of it. Alas, started my decade long (and so far still on-going) relationship with this instrument. Honestly, this was legit the best mistake of my life because not only did I get massive success for playing this instrument (being a soloist for many pieces in wind ensemble and marching band (got 1st place because of my solos on a few occasions for the band) and being so good that I was normally within the top percentile of musicians in both middle school and high school (college is probably the one time I was basically equal to the majority of players because the marching band at my university is very good)), but the euphonium's round tone in the tenor range it being a jack of all trades for different parts (supporting the low brass/low woodwinds, supporting the middle horns, and supporting the melody from trumpets/upper woodwinds). It's a unique and wonderful instrument that honestly should get more recognition for it's beautiful sound and versatility for instrument sections, but sadly it doesn't :'((
God I love my instrument. Euphonium pride is absolutely unmatched.
IT is heartening to see that the euphonium world is in good hands. Thank-You
As a euphonium player, I’ve met many who don’t know what it is. In my English class, there are two other band kids. When the teacher asked us what we played, one answered trumpet, the other answered clarinet. When I said I said I played euphonium, everyone asked what it is
How do you explain what a euphonium is? I usually say it a small trumpet (or a fat trumpet for marching bands)
@@oscarcolbert7982 I plan on telling people it is an enlarged trumpet that plays lower notes
0:00 - 0:50 you literally just explained exactly what happened to me once I reached high school band. 5 years of trumpet through middle school to euphonium in high school. To be honest I’m grateful I was moved over. Very beautiful and underrated instrument.
I had a simmilar thing but over the course of 5 minutes not 5 years, in elementary school you can start playing an instrument in 4th grade and I wanted to do trumpet so when we tried out instruments I tried it and couldn't make a single note, I was a little better on trombone and when I tried Euphonium i was able to play notes on it and my band teacher suggested I did that instead
@@campbat5712 when i was a small kid many years ago we were allowed to start an instrument in 4th grade too. i reallly wanted to play violin, along with almost every other upcoming 4th grader. instead i was bestowed the school rental trumpet and played that through to highschool aside from the one year i played french horn bc we were out of loaner trumpets
I love the euphonium! I am that trumpet that wanted to switch, fell in love with the euph
I started off playing euphonium because it sounded funny and it was my band teacher's favourite instrument
I turned out to be a natural at it, so here I am.
I'm sick of explaining what it is, I feel your pain.
Just play dont explain 😊😊
The part with the small Tuba completely broke me I had to stop the video, get outside of the room, vent to my parents, and only then come back. It was so painfully relateable, thank you very much.
Graduated many a year ago, but got forced into it at 5th grade because they needed someone to do it. It’s really one of the most beautiful instruments in my opinion, ended up learning the bone and the tuba as well. But the euph has the gentleness of French horn in the bass clef can’t freaking beat it
If I had a nickel for everytime I had to say “mini tuba” when explaining what instrument I play, I’d have enough money to buy my own euphonium
POV: Your parents and friends ask you what the difference between a Euphonium and Baritone is. 😑
When everyone, including the band director calls the Euphonium a Tiny Tuba.
PAIN playing the Euphonium. It is so underrated, even though it is the best instrument.
This video was one of the most relatable videos I have every watched. Especially the part when you have to explain what it is like “it’s a tuba but smaller and higher pitched”
Literally i used to play trumpet and one day in my lesson my trumpet teacher shipped me into a baritone and when i moved school later for reasons unrelated to music, i bought my own eupho. After staying in concert band for literally 2 painful years with the only other eupho in our band being an npc who only pretends like he actually plays and never come to the performances. When i moved up to wind ensemble and became the only eupho, i picked up trombone and started to learn. The wierdest thing was i stayed in jazz ensemble for like a term and moved up to stage band while having to compete against other trombones who had more experience than me which kind of pissed me off when considering that it took 2 years for me to move up a single band when there were only 4 eupho players in our school then for it to take less than 3 months to move up with a trombone while competing against so many people. However, i absolutely love euphonium and where it got me within music.
I've been playing baritone since the 6th grade and all I can say is I'm happy that I'm an ohioan and we have excellent marching bands. High School marching bands wouldn't be shit without us.
U literally described my band journey
ive been playing for 5 years and id be a millionare for how many times ive had to explain it as a "mini tuba" if i had a dollar every time
That intro really explained my situation so well haha. Played trumpet for six years (and I still suck at it), decided to play baritone for second year of high school marching band and my teacher was so surprised that, during concert band, they would hint about how the band needed a euphonium or baritone because the one player that did play euphonium left (very subtle).
Anyways switching was probably the best decision I have ever made, even when my family were irritated about my “giant trumpet” taking space. But it’s so sad to see how unknown it is. Yesterday I had to say that my euphonium was like a baritone to a random group of people when they asked what I played. Even the euphonium player who played last year wanted to originally play trumpet, but they’re still proud to play euphonium.
Anyways, what I’m trying to say is that euphonium is just the best no matter what >:)
The service band audition that was in 2004 was for a vacancy for one of the 4 Euphonium spots in the "President's Own" (US Marine Band). This position was won by Ryan McGeorge after competing against more than 70 other Euphonium players from all over the US for this single chair.
But the Marine Band had one other Euphonium opening in 2012 when the section leader, Phil Franke retired. That vacancy was won by Hiram Diaz.
I should mention that there have been several other euphonium openings in several different premier service bands over the past 20 years. All 4 euph spots in the Navy Band became vacant from 2007-2010 and auditions were held for each one. All 3 AF Ceremonial Band positions opened up and were filled from 2016-2020. The overwhelming majority of these positions were filled by students of Dr. Brian Bowman formerly of the University of North Texas.
I live in spain and here most bands from the holy week (semana santa, look it up) seem to have 2-3 euphoniums and definitely they treat us better than in any other place I've been. It's pretty specific, spanish folk adapted to 50 brass instruments and about 40 snares, but as the first euphonium in my band i seem to get all the cool stuff and in general shred more than the trombones. Im by no means a professional euphonium player, tho i studied music and I'm a guitar teacher, but the way i see it, at least in spain there is a lot of young people getting interested in euphoniums because they get the solos and its not an annoying cornet, and maybe some of those will start showing off some skill outside procesion bands so we'll have flamenco fusion jazz on euphoniums to enjoy.
Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
As a euphonium pure blood, I thank you for this
Found you while researching the trombone, I've never heard of the Euphonium until now! It sounds wonderful, glad the TH-cam gods recommended you to me, happy to subscribe :]
Three years later and I thank the TH-cam algorithm. Small tuba hit different.
The intro was so correct. I was a trumpet player from 6th to 7th but switched to tuba in eighth. Then at band camp in ninth I realized I was too small for the sousaphone and switched to baritone!
I have never once intentionally searched euphonium content on TH-cam, yet it suggested this to me 3 years later. Jokes on you though, I CHOSE the euphonium
As a trombone, I love the euphonium, it's more unique than people think. It's a beautiful sounding instrument and it really should have more opportunities.
I always said, "it is like a tuba, but sounds kind of like a trombone, but has valves so it is better. Also, can sound like a French horn without having to put your hand up its... "
It's a hybrid
You described my journey to learn euphonium. I had my heart set on trumpet until the band director encouraged me to learn low brass instead. I dabble every once in a while on trumpet, but I still go back to my euphonium! 🎺🎶😍
The story at the beginning Matched mine perfectly because I wanted to play the clarinet but I couldn't make a sound so the teacher gave me the euphonium.
The best this that happened in my band career
I wish TH-cam had recommended this to me sooner. Like honestly every point you made was accurate, even down to the conversation of "it's a mini tuba." I literally use that exact same sentence to explain it. Great video. Very on point. If I ever need to explain to someone issues with playing the Euphonium I may as well send them here.
I very much enjoyed your video. I hope you are out there somewhere still playing your euphonium.
I watched this after our school's spring concert, so when he said that Planets featured the euphonium that hurt, because our symphonic band played it, but I was in the wind ensemble.
ngl, the intro was spot on, except the fact I started on percussion instead of trumpet. I almost switched to oboe (sorry) so now instead I'm stuck playing badly transposed parts to support other instruments. Luckily our director played euphonium in high school so he sometimes gives us not-so-godawful parts, and there's at least more than one of us in the band, so it's not just me playing the weird tuba thing.
Even though it may be limited and not as recognized, there is no other instrument I would rather be playing.
This is the content creator I NEED
Hi there. I'm from Germany. Bavaria to be exact. I play in a wind chapel ("Blaskapelle" = traditional Bavarian wind orchestra). We at least have 4 Euophoniums every time we play something.
I studied jazz under Rich Matteson at North Texas in the '80s. Great player, great man.
Definitely relatable, i was planning to go switch to more known inst. like trumpet or tuba but know i try to learn other inst. that don't have that much popularity like basson or bass clarinet. Now i realize that i like "low" instruments
The euphonium that I started to use in 4th grade back in 2002 wasnt used in 15 years and used it for 9 years. Still working after 20 years miraculously.
the fact that you were spot on at the beginning low key scares me
7:05 I once said that one of my dreams is to make the euphonium more popular. I hate having to explain the difference between a euphonium and other low brass instruments. Since I started playing the euphonium I've leaned away from my other instruments and it's now the easiest instrument for me to really play, as well as my favorite. I am so glad you made this video!
Thanks for adding the excerpt from The Planets. That's a beautiful piece - played most often as the patriotic hymn in the UK, "I Vow to Thee My Country."
I didn't realize Jupiter made 4 valve horns with all as top valves.
I'm absolutely in love with this video. After playing the euphonium for three years in band class, I stopped and haven't played since. For my third year I had to buy my own instrument. Sadly, my Euphonium bought on eBay for 200€ is not tuned properly and a valve is stuck. I hope to repair and tune it so I can restart and find the sound I have lost. I always knew there was something special about the euphonium. I just couldn't put my finger on it. Thank you for your video.
I am here!! :D
A little conscious about putting video's online but I love it. Eventhough my teachers call it a baritone
Love your style! Learnt a lot.
Yes, similar to my journey, indeed. My band director had a dinner with my parents and recommended I join the euphonium section. I left my trumpet track and hopped into the euph. I enjoyed the remainder of my middle school days, and in high school, I learned to love marching baritone. I continued playing euphonium in concert band and baritone in marching season. I still enjoy the register the euph shines inside of. The trombones might think they’ve got class… but my school remembers the hustle with the muscle! The baritone squad!! ❤❤❤
I willingly brought this pain upon myself and I still ask that question.
I am the only Euphonium player in my middle school and I understand your pain.
Luckily our School bought a new Jupiter Euphonium this year, but I am still treated like a bad trumpet or annoying tuba.
Don’t worry! I’m a euphonium player too! We’ll make it through together ❤️
Close. Way back in the 80s, had braces. Made trumpet impossible. Teach handed me a baritone, and then graduated to the euphonium. 34 years later, still doin it; and still amazed at all the young ones deciding to join the cul..err... low brass section. Yeah. That.
The order of the instruments that I played -recorder,violin,trumpet,baritone,
Euphonium (lol. I can feel the pain of many instruments
That's pretty much the exact same order I went in. I hated the violin so much
Anytime I mention my euphonium:
Literally everyone: what's that??????
Me: it's like a mini tuba
Great vid. I love all the 'unpopular' instruments, Euphonium, Tenor Horn, Bassoon etc.
'LONG LIVE THE DIFFERENT'!
In HS I had the embouchure for trombone, baritone and tuba, guess what dusty old beaten up instrument was the only one left in the music storeroom? Yep a euphonium. I played euphonium in HS, college marching band, concert band and brass ensemble. I also played a baritone bugle while in the Navy Recruit Drum & Bugle Corps. That was over 50 years ago, so euphonium players take pride in this beautiful instrument.
If I counted the amount of times someone said "The what" and I said "Its like a small tuba", wait I cant count that high.
“You probably switched from trumpet” me looking for cameras
0:42 seconds in and he already explained how my music career started.
I cannot believe how relatable this is every time I'm carrying my kids around school when going to different hours oh my gosh isn't that heavy what kind of instrument is that and I say euphonium in there like what is that in every single time I say mini tuba just because I don't want to explain to them what my instrument actually is and I can literally relate to this because I'm one of the only euphoniums in my whole school and everything this man just said in this video is absolutely true
Being a Euphonium player is like a love-hate relationship
Man, this video was ON point!
THE “it’s like a small tuba😞” IS TOO REAL😭
this video was interesting and fun and joy to watch (and hear)
I remember in School I didn't like band class at all. The biggest instrument they had for us at the time was a euphonium. I was the only one in my class who could actually play it so was given to me by default. Looking back I didn't give the instrument the respect it deserves. There was a certain amount of pride to having the biggest instrument in the room. Recently I've been trying to get back into music and teach myself bass guitar. I also plan on trying and Euphonium if I can find one I can afford
More than a half century ago i was where you are. Trumpet to melaphone to baritone to french horn to euphonium to tuba and sousaphone.
2:10 | Oh my god, dude that was so funny. 😂
Don’t worry, i started playing it last year and i plan on sticking with it
BRO THIS IS SO REAL.
Hello! As a fellow player of an often forgotten and forced-to-switch-to instrument (horn) I would like to clear up one small mistake I noticed in this video! Holst did not actually ever write a euphonium part into The Planets, the part is instead marked for a Tenor Tuba in Bb (also known as a Wagner tuba), which is actually more similar to a horn than a baritone. The parts in The Planets are simply often played on the euphonium in the modern day as very few people still play the Wagner tuba these days (which is really a shame, I wish it also gets revived in a way the euphonium is today). The video as a whole was very good, and I wish luck to all of my symbolic euphonium siblings in having more music written for your awesome instrument!
When I explained to my girlfriend’s family what euphonium is, I legitimately said “You know the quiet part in Stars and Stripes Forever? That instrument.” Little did I know there was another march by Karl King that’s VERY focused on the instrument called “The Melody Shop”.
I am a trumpet player who loves all brass instruments. I love and support euphonium players! I love woodwinds too, just not quite as much as brass.
The intro was literally exactly what happened to me. Anyway, great video. You deserve my sub.
Euphonium and tenor saxophone. Kindred spirits
I love the euphonium. I had to beg my band director to let switch from trombone and let me play it
I played trumpet 6th and 7th grade and about 2 weeks in to 8th grade, my band director asked if any trumpets wanted to try Baritone. I was dead set on quitting after middle school so I just switched. I loved it so much I’m almost done with Freshman Year and I’m first chair in my class and 3rd chair select band Wind Ensemble
ive been playing the euphonium since 6th grade, and gustav holst pieces are still some of my favorites to play, but seriously great video fr
Thank you. I needed this video.
I was a trombone player in high school and didn't switch to euphonium/baritone until I joined a couple of local groups. Now I'm having to switch back to trombone in one of the groups because we don't have any! But I do agree that euphonium is not as popular and its harder to find players. Thanks for making this video, it was great!
As a euphonium player, omg this video is amazing lmao
Us euphoniums in our school are happy and proud. We are “baritone bois”
Holy shit the begging was exactly my situation
The beginning of this directly attacked me 😭 but yeah no this video is… it hits. I’m probably going to have to double up on trombone at my school just to make money from gigs because ti quote one of ny instructors “I’ve never hired a euphonium player”
5:15… I can’t anymore. I just… can’t.
I switched to euphonium because I wanted to help the trombone section in jazz. My (former) band director said the only way I could do that was to switch my main instrument from trumpet to euphonium, sooooooo now I'm a euphonium/baritone player and have been for almost a year now. Fucking love the thing, but I would muchhhh rather be on tenor sax 😅
I'm exactly like you said, I'm learning the euphonium at my school and when I tell someone that I play the euphonium, they don't know what it is.
As a saxophone player, I feel personally attacked by that last statement