This reminds me of what happened in Date Lab recently. (A column in WaPo). Male dater gave female dater a 4.3 and said she had to " work to get the other .7" BOY did that backfire with the commenters! They tore him to pieces!
People underestimate denial as a strong motivator. In this case, it means admitting to yourself that you were married to a psychopath, gave birth to his kids, and that you meant so little to this person that he was willing to kill you and your kids (the attempted gas explosion would have been when kids were in the house). That’s a lot of shame, humiliation, and terror to suddenly open the floodgates to. That is part of what is so insidious and grotesque about narcissism and domestic violence; it warps the partner into conspiring against their own self.
Victoria wrote a book called "I Survived". It was released August 2020. She is in a new relationship now. She no longer has any contact with him in prison. Seems she has decided he was guilty as charged after all.
Psychopaths are incredibly dangerous. You really need to be careful with people who seem too good to be true🤷♂️ They might be normal but they also might be psychopathic.
@@SueBoo2 I'm 70 years old; if I've made it this far, I think it's safe to say that no homicide will occur... 👵🏻 however... I do have a shirt that says, "Don't pi$$ off old people, the closer we get to death, the less 'life in prison' is a deterrent." 🤷🏼♀️
I don't jump anymore, but when I did I was always very careful about packing my own parachute and never letting it out of my sight. Paranoid? Maybe. I didn't think anyone was out to get me, I just wanted to make sure no stupid accidents happened.
This is hardly a comparison, but my ex tried to take out a life insurance policy on me out of nowhere. I was suspicious, and looked at his phone one night and found out he had been cheating on me for years. I feel lucky to this day that I looked at his phone. He was, and still is a narcissistic gaslighter.
Sadly, it is so common, if you said that they did, I would not have been surprised. I've seen tons that have, even when it makes zero sense...for example a stay at home partner having a huge amount taken out on them (without their knowledge) and later learning about the policies and signatures being forged, etc. Nothing about a full out NPD creature could possibly surprise many at this point.
This is one of those strangely familiar stories of a malignant narcissist who is willing to go to the next level to get thrills and validations at any costs. Everything and everyone is either a tool for gratification or an obstacle to be avoided, discarded or worse, destroyed. Horrific at all levels. 🤮
I honestly don't understand people that can do things like this and just live with themselves and look in the mirror after. I'm glad that Victoria survived. I just don't understand how someone can kill their spouse for money or for ANY reason. No amount of money is more valuable than a loved one's life. If you don't want to be with someone THEN JUST LEAVE THEM.
Some people just dont have any emotions for other people. It's all simulation and sensation's seeking. I have a "friend" like that. He knows he is a psychopath. He is very rude. People are just tools for him.
We can never underestimate the power of manipulation. Falling in love puts people in a fairly vulnerable position for manipulation. Regardless of intelligence, it can happen to anyone given the right circumstances. Dr. Grande, I hope you have a fantastic weekend! Who knows you will post one video instead of two this weekend?😁 I keep waiting for the day when you will give yourself a tiny break, at least on the weekends.😉 Lovely video as usual.❤️
Therapy? You cannot fix stuck on stupid. She picked and didn't look into his life...or just accepted it...then after he tried to kill her....well...no hope. Bet he has a new sex club in Prison now.
@@bthomson Those six young children don't need that sick excuse of a father. Good thing he's going to the big house. He would be a terrible influence on them.
I've never heard of this case, but I was sooo glad to hear that that narcissistic monster was convicted!! He actually tried to find a nursing mother for their baby before his wife's jump.... I don't understand why she would try to protect him? Another incredible video, Dr. Grande! I hope you have a great weekend! ♡
Victoria was so manipulated, that he managed to persuade her to believe HIM!! She had just had a baby for christ sake!!!! What a monster he is!! I remember this case! The parachute club had a lot to do with the evidence - the way he acted and did things that day, taking the parachute into a toilet stall and then putting it into her locker, when the jump could not be done that day... Is a HUGE indicator that he was determined that she was the only one to use that parachute. Maybe she got a brain injury too!!! Because you need to be beyond stupid to stand up for someone who tried to kill you TWICE!!
/the nile/ denial is not just a river in Egypt.... I'm sure it's beyond shocking and some simply cannot accept the double personality of a supposed loved one...someone who was supposed to be trusted and supportive...and not try to kill you ...that would be a lot to absorb
And here, Victoria shows us multiple ways to take the fall for it. 😖 Thank you for continuing to help others identify narcissistic manipulation, Dr. G. It’s far too common a circumstance and only seems to get worse and farther-reaching as a narcissist proceeds through life unchallenged. Have a wonderful weekend! 🤗
Narcissistic manipulation to the extreme! These people sure are puzzling. Couldn't believe when he said to the two women, "OK, which one of you wants me?" WHAT? 🤯 I'd have slapped him Will Smith style, and left.....just for him saying that! People are strrrrange af!
"If a husband trying to murder his wife twice isnt enough to kill the romance...." wtf? LOVE your straightforward, measured delivery, Dr. Grande! I find it incredibly comforting.
Narcissists manipulate others to the extent that they become too uncertain of their own thoughts to function logically. It happens to even intelligent clear thinking people sadly.
He got the outcome he deserved. The jury did not find her testimony credible. You are right about the crushing end. Glad the Crown recognized what he was. Thank you for another excellent analysis. ❤️
He sounds like a vile, disgusting person to me as an outsider. But these types of men can be so seductive and manipulative towards their partners that unfortunately some women cannot see the danger or choose to accept him rather than lose him. These are very complicated dynamics that most people cannot understand unless they have been intimately involved with a psychopath or malignant narcissist.
It sounds awfully like you've been through that situation. I experienced a manipulative woman to whom I was blindly attracted. It wasn't until I realised that for her sex dominated all her waking thoughts, when I came home early to find her having sex with both my next door neighbours. Rather than be ashamed she suggested I joined in, which foolishly I did. After that male or female, couples or same sex partners were turning up on our doorstep. I stuck my heels in at first but eventually succumbed to the sexual lottery that became our lives. My wife contracted Cancer in 2006 and this curtailed her activities. But right to the very end she was eager for some kind of sexual act. I still don't know to be proud of her adventurous spirit or revile her for her perversion of love.
@@richardhoward4645 My ex wanted a threesome, he was pressing me and pushing. I left before that happened. He sucked in every possible area. He was a self-centered narc, who would give me all of sorts of back handed compliments. He was talking nonsense, that would confuse me and often make me wonder if there is something wrong with him, or with me. I didn't understand what he meant. After knowing him bit better I decided that there are a lot of things that are wrong with him and it was time to run, before he made me believe that there was something wrong with me. Sometimes it is just hard to see the mountain when you are standing on it. You need a distance to see it better.
Two universal truths: love is blind and gravity has a 100% success rate%. Thank you for the intriguing speculation on what could have happened in this case. As always, your hard word is greatly appreciated.
Narcissism is charming and toxic dynamics can be addictive. I have met narcisists like him, they are extremely smooth talkers and master manipulators. It is hard to get away from their grip. Especially for people who grew up with traumatic childhoods, for whomst the abuse may feel as love
I was bullied by my Dad and it has caused me untold amounts of mental health problems for decades. I've told my Mum about this yet she still thinks the sun shines out of my Dad's arse and treats him like a hero. She witnessed everything that happened but "doesn't remember it". Some women just flatly refuse to see anything bad with their man.
Dr. Grande - I was surprised not to find an analysis of Leonard Lake and Charles Ng. I’m fascinated by serial killer teams and would love to get your take on their crimes and on serial killer pairs in general. Thanks!
I'm an FAA senior parachute rigger and this is horrifying. Parachute sabotage is extremely rare, probably a few cases per decade worldwide. In rare cases when a jumper commits suicide, they either fail to deploy either chute, or remove the rig in free fall - they never sabotage their own. Reserve parachutes are sealed with tamper evident thread and a lead seal which bears the rigger's 3 digit code. It is not possible to pack a reserve with two soft links missing; this is the same as slicing half of the suspension lines. Sabotaging both parachutes in 10 minutes would require extensive planning and research for a non skydiver. The tampering described here would be obvious during the gear check we are supposed to do before every jump. Such a blatant disregard for human life, and with no effort to avoid discovery, is beyond words.
How about a speculative analysis on the 1984 kidnapping of Jody Plauche by Jeffery Doucett? What made the case famous is the reaction of Jody’s father, Gary Plauche. Very interesting and chock full of potential mental health factors. Either way please keep us the amazing work you are doing. We all enjoy your videos regardless of the topics you choose.
What a cruel way to try to kill someone! The person would have time in the air to contemplate their death and I imagine it's painful. Ice cold 🥺 mind blowing she survived that!! Some men are so entitled.. basically tried to kill her because he didn't get enough sex?! Wow. Just wow...
Thanks for covering this. I remember when this case happened as it got a lot of coverage here in the UK. You filled in some missing gaps that weren't really explained at the time, rather just the facts were covered. Doing some further research Victoria now realises what this guy did. Must have been devastating for her. She is now rebuilding her life. These were her words taken from a newspaper interview freely available on the web "It took a lot for me to finally recognise that he must have done it. How could someone I'd married, loved and had children with have done something that despicable".
I was a skydiver some years ago when my ex-wife filed for divorce. Even though I had already packed my chute for my next jump I unpacked it and checked it carefully. I also had my reserve repacked before I made my next jump. I wasn't taking any chances!
I'd like to see your analysis of how Ian Watkins, lead singer of Lost Prophets manipulated his partners into colluding with him in the abuse of their own children.
Theres no way you can just manipulate a mother into molesting and taking lewd pictures of their own children. He purposefully sought out equally evil women to commit those horrible acts with.
I'm happy you called him a narcissist, even though you are not diagnosing anyone. Interesting commentary on "the crown", thank God we still over in a world of free thoughts. Love your channel. Thanks Dr. G
Yes, great case study, thank you. From personal experience, when under the control of an abusive narcissist for some time, it's extremely difficult to come to terms with the reality that one must "betray" their narcissistic, extremely dangerous partner and expose the truth. The loss of sense of self and the fear of exposure and then not actually being believed, combined with the fact that the stronghold is so great that all personal decisions are second guessed, and the reality that this would forever change what has been the norm, despite it not being healthy or safe, all of this control makes leaving and exposing the narcissist so challenging. Necessary all the same, but the moving forward part is brutal.
There may not have been direct physical evidence of the fact that he sabotaged the parachutes but there was direct evidence that both parachutes were sabotaged which contradicts her testimony. And there was direct evidence that he was the one who caused the gas leak. There was overwhelming circumstantial evidence, of course, as well.
I’m a scuba diver. My former husband removed weight from my rig at depth. Being under weighted, I started to rise to the surface. An uncontrolled ascent can result in depth. Luckily, I kept my wits about me and slowed my ascent. I yelled at him when we surfaced and silently vowed never to get back in the water with him. I still don’t know whether removing weight from my rig was an irresponsible, bone headed mistake or a murder attempt. It’s really hard to deal with evidence that someone you loved and trusted with your life would do something so horrible.
Was this the icing on the cake incident that made you file for divorce? So very sorry to hear your trust was shaken. That must have been a terrifying experience!
If Victoria states SHE tampered with the gas, wouldn’t that pose a risk to her children? In that case, why was she allowed to keep her children. Why wasn’t a child protective agency not asked to evaluate both parents fitness to parent their children? I wonder if she would have continued to cover up the truth of the events if custody of her children was at stake. The big fail isn’t so much that she stopped cooperating to the point that she was helping him, but that certain actions weren’t taken to review the children’s home environment and safety.
I’m a grad student and I happened to be watching one of your statistics analysis videos as an aid w/my project, only to realize I was also listening to your true crime review on auto play. Love your videos! 😅
@@bthomson I need to go back and watch ALL of those, I've watched many of his older videos, but there are still many I haven't been able to get to yet- something to look forward to- maybe I'll try one older video each day along with the NEW video he posts each day, and EVENTUALLY I'll hit them all- I only discovered the good Dr. about 6 Weeks-2 months ago, so I do have a lot to catch up on! Thanks for making this GREAT suggestion to everyone B Thom.- my fellow GG 4 Life! Lol 😂🤗💖
Huh, this case makes the goose bombs run down my spine. I was once married to such a psycho.... Some people we meet during our lives, we simply have to turn out back and, never look back and, do so before it's too late..
It's interesting how parasitic people can find partners that let them do that kind of harm and then defend them. It's a shame that wife couldn't be put in an intervention. If Emile could harm her so easily, their children could be at the same risk.
My grandmother liked to say "Always pack your own parachute". Good advice. Literally, and as a metaphor. The first thing I notice is the shirt you are wearing, Dr. Grande. And I love that color on you!
We are quite lucky doctor to have your commentary your thoughts and your break down these videos are wonderful keep them coming so far I've agreed with everything you said and I've watched a lot of these Bravo dr. Todd straight to the truth
Love your videos. Would love to hear your opinion on why some victims not only fall prey to narcissits, but why some display such an exteme amount of denial when doing so.
Another great analysis Dr Grande. You are seriously educating me. I haven't got much formal education and had not heard of narcissism until recently except in the context of Narcissi, the Greek God (I think 🤔) who fell in love with his own reflection in a pool. There are so many facets to a personality - who knew 🤔! I seem to have found an unwelcome diagnosis for myself amongst them all. I think I am a bit of an avoidant personality type. People are downright scarey 😱!!
Tell me you attempted to kill your wife without telling us you attempted to kill your wife. “I have a high sex drive and Victoria has a low sex drive.”
Forensic files, Cold Case files unsolved mysteries and Dr Grande's channel.. you definitely get it impressed in your conscience that you cannot trust a damn soul.......... Excuse me if I may be so BOLD!!!!!!
As a survivor of a narcissistic abuser, I cannot say that I am upset that the Crown used emotionality to get a conviction. He, and hundreds like him, got what was needed. These guys (and women) ought to be locked away from society.
Lovely, a Dr Grande video to chill to before sleeping. Thank for your hard work and first class videos. What a charmer Emile was - not. Imagine attempting murdering his wife to be with his mistress, the mistress he was cheating on with a string of other women. Of course he wouldn't just leave his wife because he'd have had to pay child support and probably alimony too. And after all that, Victoria tried to protect him. Unbelievable.
The things people do to people they have claimed to love is beyond me. I will wake up, decide I've had enough for whatever is going on and I'll walk away. This is why I don't have children, the things people will do in the name of their children are abhorrent.
? Are you saying Victoria's actions are abhorrent? Or that emil did this for his kids? No idea how this is your takeaway, this case seems to just show a highly manipulative and selfish man taking advantage of the infatuation people feel in the start of relationships. Care to.clarify?
There’s a difference between a “high sex drive” and just being downright addicted to it and having commitment issues. That’s not a healthy level of enjoyment.
The contrast in comment content on this site with most every other I browse restores hope and a smile. The high cortical thought coupled with grammar, syntax and punctuation expressed on Dr. Grande's page is refreshing and alluring. I gave spelling a pass.
very interesting content !! as always .....please cover the Kimberly Proctor"s case from langford ...it is a very sad case ..with two horrible teens that murdered her for really no reason ..it touches on so many things that teens deal with and shows what happens when two psychopaths get together ...
There’s always “a reason” for anything anyone does. A “reason” is why people decide to do anything they do, every move one chooses to make is because of the “reason” behind it. Example: “Why did you decide to get out of bed?” “The “reason” was, because I had to get ready for work.” If people didn’t have a “reason,” they wouldn’t be able to decide things, they’d be sitting there like a rock. Those girls killed the other because of a “reason,” such as jealousy, etc.. There’s no such thing as “no reason.”
I like your methodical analysis and consideration of facts on both sides. It's shocking how much he manipulated women, and how many. Any man who charms that many women has red flags all over him.
Dr Grande…are very witty and skilled. Victoria obviously has her own issues. Even after finding out everything in court she still contacted him in jail. Wow. She fell for him big time, and was walking on air…….literally. Wow……..
i respect and admire Dr. Grande's commitment to the reasonable doubt standard, and his ability to distinguish a preponderance of evidence standard from reasonable doubt standard. it should be noted that a jury has the benefit of watching the witness's testimony in full and, in this case, may have found victoria not to seem credible in the second trial, when she testified that she was responsible for the parachute failure etc.
His poor deluded wife Victoria. I hope he never gets out of prison. If he does, and if he has this high level of manipulative skills, he's going to be a danger to others.
I agree. The entire case revolved around his personality until it eventually convicted him, going to prove just how easy it is to manipulate the manipulator.
If there was nothing wrong with her main chute, as she later claimed, then why cut it away? An error in judgment? No, she was far too experienced to make that mistake. If she wanted to protect her husband, she could have just claimed that she wanted to end her own life -- but she didn't say that, did she?
And if there was nothing wrong, why were there pieces missing on the main chute? Like she suffered brain damage in the fall. Maybe she was afraid for her children’s lives at the hand of their father if she didn’t defend him. 🤔
Hi Dr. Grande. He sounds like a typical psychonarc obviously. He's not worth worrying about. She didn't have enough self confidence. The best solution would have been to leave permanently and move on. Thanks for another good analysis Dr. G. Love and peace to you and your family, peace, Janine Smiley😀😎🤩😍🙂
I have 5 sons and 4 daughters. My worst nightmare is one of them getting a partner like this guy and not having the self-esteem to give them the boot. Cheated on her, tried to murder her, and she still defended him in court. I'm not trying to judge her because I know these things are complicated, but honestly, sometimes you just need to cut a person loose. I'm 30 and I've been with my wife for 16 years. Don't get me wrong it hasn't always been easy but we've never tried to kill eachother at least. I've read and watched about loads of cases like this and it just makes me despair. When worst comes to worst the children should come first. Also, life insurance seems to play a massive role in a lot of these spousal murder conspiracies. At this point I'm thinking you'd probably be better off without it for Christ Sakes. I dunno, maybe I'm just lucky but it makes me feel incredibly blessed. Even though I'm not religious or anything. I guess this is why I watch this content if I'm being honest. Of course the analysis from an expert like Doc Grande is interesting but say me and my wife have an argument I'll watch a video like this and think: "Christ, at least we aren't these people" That probably sounds incredibly selfish but it is what it is. I feel bad for the victims and their families, but it makes me appreciate my life and how lucky I am so much more. It's one of those weird things where I feel sad for the victim but it also makes me appreciate what I've got.
@@AmyLSacks Nah, we didn't marry lol. We had kids at age 14. We were nearly 15 though. Her birthday is in April and mines in May. We only got properly married like 3 years ago haha. I always just called her my wife as a term of endearment. So we didn't "officially" marry until 3 years ago but she's always been my wife.
In all seriousness, why would ANYONE answer positively to “which one of you wants me?”
This reminds me of what happened in Date Lab recently. (A column in WaPo). Male dater gave female dater a 4.3 and said she had to " work to get the other .7" BOY did that backfire with the commenters! They tore him to pieces!
Thank you! Heard that and **disc skips**
I know right 🤣
@@bthomson.7 inches
You don't know people.
People underestimate denial as a strong motivator. In this case, it means admitting to yourself that you were married to a psychopath, gave birth to his kids, and that you meant so little to this person that he was willing to kill you and your kids (the attempted gas explosion would have been when kids were in the house). That’s a lot of shame, humiliation, and terror to suddenly open the floodgates to.
That is part of what is so insidious and grotesque about narcissism and domestic violence; it warps the partner into conspiring against their own self.
Very insightful comment!
This is a great comment 👍
🎯🎯🎯
best explanation ever
" it warps the partner into conspiring against their own self" That's the best description of it that I've ever read!
Victoria wrote a book called "I Survived". It was released August 2020. She is in a new relationship now. She no longer has any contact with him in prison. Seems she has decided he was guilty as charged after all.
Good for her.
"I survived and i lied" would have been better
I know!
I would be scared to death to marry her,and to sleep in the same bed with her...
@@fevkaladeninfevkiI agree . She has serious issues
Just a reminder I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating about what could be happening when a parachute fails to open like this.
WAO 😂
@@laabogadadeldiablo_ hey thanks for the emote!
Always love your comments on here BigZebra, they often make me laugh or smile! Happy Friday! 😁
@@shayb413 Thank you for taking the time to say so! You are awesome!
Mutual admiration society!
The original jump was supposed to be in front of her friends and family, meaning he intended to have her die horribly in front of them. What a monster
The things people do to each other will never cease to amaze me ....I can't imagine doing that to somebody
Psychopaths are incredibly dangerous. You really need to be careful with people who seem too good to be true🤷♂️ They might be normal but they also might be psychopathic.
EXACTLY
I can; I've imagined it many times (but I wouldn't actually do it)!
Neither do I … I mean … I swear the fridge and the TV set fall in her bath by accident
@@SueBoo2 I'm 70 years old; if I've made it this far, I think it's safe to say that no homicide will occur... 👵🏻
however... I do have a shirt that says, "Don't pi$$ off old people, the closer we get to death, the less 'life in prison' is a deterrent." 🤷🏼♀️
I don't jump anymore, but when I did I was always very careful about packing my own parachute and never letting it out of my sight. Paranoid? Maybe. I didn't think anyone was out to get me, I just wanted to make sure no stupid accidents happened.
This is hardly a comparison, but my ex tried to take out a life insurance policy on me out of nowhere. I was suspicious, and looked at his phone one night and found out he had been cheating on me for years. I feel lucky to this day that I looked at his phone. He was, and still is a narcissistic gaslighter.
Sadly, it is so common, if you said that they did, I would not have been surprised. I've seen tons that have, even when it makes zero sense...for example a stay at home partner having a huge amount taken out on them (without their knowledge) and later learning about the policies and signatures being forged, etc. Nothing about a full out NPD creature could possibly surprise many at this point.
Damn...thats interesting. A fake guy
Thank God you did!
I’m so glad you got out of that.
Bravo to you for trusting your instincts, confirming them, and getting out. Very smart. Glad you're with us.
Our instincts have never failed us. Good on you.
Boy, this guy, Emile, is a real prize.
What kind of hold did he have on his wife to get her to agree to jump out of a plane 5 weeks after giving birth? Hell no!
Got to remember how many times she had done this on her own! She might even have been somewhat addicted?
I have to wonder about anyone who jumps out of a perfectly good airplane, sorry.
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 As the guy in the video noted, it's not that dangerous. Over 2 million jumps, only one death, due to sabotage.
This is one of those strangely familiar stories of a malignant narcissist who is willing to go to the next level to get thrills and validations at any costs. Everything and everyone is either a tool for gratification or an obstacle to be avoided, discarded or worse, destroyed. Horrific at all levels. 🤮
Nice.
Brilliant comment!
I think guys like this who can charm so many women have demonic power.
@@joeking433 It's not just guys it's girls too.
@@vaskylark Definitely!
"Sex motivated multi-tasking", this has to be an entry into either the Oxford English or a urban slang dictionary. 🤣
Both!
I honestly don't understand people that can do things like this and just live with themselves and look in the mirror after. I'm glad that Victoria survived. I just don't understand how someone can kill their spouse for money or for ANY reason. No amount of money is more valuable than a loved one's life. If you don't want to be with someone THEN JUST LEAVE THEM.
your candor feels like a song from all of our good hearts.
Poetic!
Some people just dont have any emotions for other people. It's all simulation and sensation's seeking. I have a "friend" like that. He knows he is a psychopath. He is very rude. People are just tools for him.
Truth.
His wife wasn't a "loved one" and supposedly it's easier to kill them than deal with divorce, child support, alimony, loss of half the assets, etc.
We can never underestimate the power of manipulation. Falling in love puts people in a fairly vulnerable position for manipulation. Regardless of intelligence, it can happen to anyone given the right circumstances.
Dr. Grande, I hope you have a fantastic weekend! Who knows you will post one video instead of two this weekend?😁 I keep waiting for the day when you will give yourself a tiny break, at least on the weekends.😉
Lovely video as usual.❤️
Stuck at the hospital, so glad this just got posted! Now I have something great to watch and pass the time
Hope you’re okay!
Get well soon!
Please feel better VERY soon sweetness!! 🤧🤒😷💖💐🥣
Hope your okay.
Wishing you spicy food (if you like it🤔😇)!
She has a Horrible Case of Denial!! Everything points to him!! Maybe Therapy would help her!
the way cult stuff works maybe....
Therapy? You cannot fix stuck on stupid. She picked and didn't look into his life...or just accepted it...then after he tried to kill her....well...no hope. Bet he has a new sex club in Prison now.
It wouldn’t help him, that psychopath.
@@bthomson Those six young children don't need that sick excuse of a father. Good thing he's going to the big house. He would be a terrible influence on them.
Maybe a brain would help her.
I've never heard of this case, but I was sooo glad to hear that that narcissistic monster was convicted!!
He actually tried to find a nursing mother for their baby before his wife's jump.... I don't understand why she would try to protect him?
Another incredible video, Dr. Grande!
I hope you have a great weekend! ♡
Victoria was so manipulated, that he managed to persuade her to believe HIM!! She had just had a baby for christ sake!!!! What a monster he is!! I remember this case! The parachute club had a lot to do with the evidence - the way he acted and did things that day, taking the parachute into a toilet stall and then putting it into her locker, when the jump could not be done that day... Is a HUGE indicator that he was determined that she was the only one to use that parachute. Maybe she got a brain injury too!!! Because you need to be beyond stupid to stand up for someone who tried to kill you TWICE!!
She chose him.
What's with these sex-addicted people? Can't they just get involved in positive hobbies or a part time job?
Ikr the obsession is SO bloody boring!..I mean there's so much more to life!❤
That was funny!
Churning out a ton of content!! Always appreciated ☺️
It is hard to believe that Victoria would defend him.
/the nile/ denial is not just a river in Egypt.... I'm sure it's beyond shocking and some simply cannot accept the double personality of a supposed loved one...someone who was supposed to be trusted and supportive...and not try to kill you ...that would be a lot to absorb
And here, Victoria shows us multiple ways to take the fall for it. 😖 Thank you for continuing to help others identify narcissistic manipulation, Dr. G. It’s far too common a circumstance and only seems to get worse and farther-reaching as a narcissist proceeds through life unchallenged. Have a wonderful weekend! 🤗
Hi Anna. - Not nearly enough negative consequences had come his way for sure!😖
Narcissistic manipulation to the extreme! These people sure are puzzling. Couldn't believe when he said to the two women, "OK, which one of you wants me?" WHAT? 🤯 I'd have slapped him Will Smith style, and left.....just for him saying that! People are strrrrange af!
A woman should always feel that she has a way out whether it be a job or a savings account or her mom!
@@LDiamondz 🤣
@@epicmercury333👍 Both women should have slapped him. Really, who says that? SMH.
"If a husband trying to murder his wife twice isnt enough to kill the romance...." wtf?
LOVE your straightforward, measured delivery, Dr. Grande! I find it incredibly comforting.
I truly don’t how these women can live in denial even if it ends up killing them.
Narcissists manipulate others to the extent that they become too uncertain of their own thoughts to function logically. It happens to even intelligent clear thinking people sadly.
Probably, men like him, know how to choose such women... They wouldn't dare to treat like this every woman, such men first test the waters.
Attractive man, womens brains switch off...
@@silvacleo329 You mean, "test" the water.
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Lol! Yeah, exactly.
He got the outcome he deserved. The jury did not find her testimony credible. You are right about the crushing end. Glad the Crown recognized what he was. Thank you for another excellent analysis. ❤️
He would have killed one or many people if he hadn’t been convicted.
"the Crown" :)
Sheep.
He sounds like a vile, disgusting person to me as an outsider. But these types of men can be so seductive and manipulative towards their partners that unfortunately some women cannot see the danger or choose to accept him rather than lose him. These are very complicated dynamics that most people cannot understand unless they have been intimately involved with a psychopath or malignant narcissist.
Yup
Charm/ charisma is a red flag
It sounds awfully like you've been through that situation. I experienced a manipulative woman to whom I was blindly attracted. It wasn't until I realised that for her sex dominated all her waking thoughts, when I came home early to find her having sex with both my next door neighbours. Rather than be ashamed she suggested I joined in, which foolishly I did. After that male or female, couples or same sex partners were turning up on our doorstep. I stuck my heels in at first but eventually succumbed to the sexual lottery that became our lives. My wife contracted Cancer in 2006 and this curtailed her activities. But right to the very end she was eager for some kind of sexual act. I still don't know to be proud of her adventurous spirit or revile her for her perversion of love.
@@richardhoward4645 jesus christ my dude
@@richardhoward4645 My ex wanted a threesome, he was pressing me and pushing. I left before that happened. He sucked in every possible area. He was a self-centered narc, who would give me all of sorts of back handed compliments. He was talking nonsense, that would confuse me and often make me wonder if there is something wrong with him, or with me. I didn't understand what he meant. After knowing him bit better I decided that there are a lot of things that are wrong with him and it was time to run, before he made me believe that there was something wrong with me. Sometimes it is just hard to see the mountain when you are standing on it. You need a distance to see it better.
Two universal truths: love is blind and gravity has a 100% success rate%.
Thank you for the intriguing speculation on what could have happened in this case. As always, your hard word is greatly appreciated.
What has this man got that keeps women coming back to him? It’s not looks, honesty, or money
Narcissism is charming and toxic dynamics can be addictive. I have met narcisists like him, they are extremely smooth talkers and master manipulators. It is hard to get away from their grip. Especially for people who grew up with traumatic childhoods, for whomst the abuse may feel as love
I was thinking the same thing!
I was bullied by my Dad and it has caused me untold amounts of mental health problems for decades. I've told my Mum about this yet she still thinks the sun shines out of my Dad's arse and treats him like a hero. She witnessed everything that happened but "doesn't remember it". Some women just flatly refuse to see anything bad with their man.
Lack of self-esteem and needy people. If you are one and you cross a guy like this, you are screwed
Dr. Grande - I was surprised not to find an analysis of Leonard Lake and Charles Ng. I’m fascinated by serial killer teams and would love to get your take on their crimes and on serial killer pairs in general. Thanks!
Those two killers did horrific things, I remember that case! 💔
I'm an FAA senior parachute rigger and this is horrifying. Parachute sabotage is extremely rare, probably a few cases per decade worldwide. In rare cases when a jumper commits suicide, they either fail to deploy either chute, or remove the rig in free fall - they never sabotage their own.
Reserve parachutes are sealed with tamper evident thread and a lead seal which bears the rigger's 3 digit code. It is not possible to pack a reserve with two soft links missing; this is the same as slicing half of the suspension lines. Sabotaging both parachutes in 10 minutes would require extensive planning and research for a non skydiver. The tampering described here would be obvious during the gear check we are supposed to do before every jump. Such a blatant disregard for human life, and with no effort to avoid discovery, is beyond words.
He was a creepy person. There’s a documentary on this case. Thanks Dr.Grande.
what's it called
How about a speculative analysis on the 1984 kidnapping of Jody Plauche by Jeffery Doucett? What made the case famous is the reaction of Jody’s father, Gary Plauche. Very interesting and chock full of potential mental health factors. Either way please keep us the amazing work you are doing. We all enjoy your videos regardless of the topics you choose.
I've barely started this video & I'm already looking up jody plauche the video titles are crazy
that’s a great suggestion, i’d love to see what the doc has to say about that one.
@@kastynm.9004 HorrorStories channel, you're welcome.
What a cruel way to try to kill someone! The person would have time in the air to contemplate their death and I imagine it's painful. Ice cold 🥺 mind blowing she survived that!! Some men are so entitled.. basically tried to kill her because he didn't get enough sex?! Wow. Just wow...
Those injuries will almost certainly (or have already!) cause pain and suffering! Later on she may come to regret her support of this monster!
@Lila Pearson just how he expected sex every night is alot .. he acted like it was his birthright and like it was her duty. 🙄
insurance money
Not just men that feel entitled. Plenty of us women can be too.
And he almost escaped justice, too! Glad he didn’t. Victoria needs someone to sit her down and explain the truth to her, poor thing.
Thanks for covering this. I remember when this case happened as it got a lot of coverage here in the UK. You filled in some missing gaps that weren't really explained at the time, rather just the facts were covered. Doing some further research Victoria now realises what this guy did. Must have been devastating for her. She is now rebuilding her life. These were her words taken from a newspaper interview freely available on the web "It took a lot for me to finally recognise that he must have done it. How could someone I'd married, loved and had children with have done something that despicable".
Thanks, Dr. Grande.
I've never heard of this case before.
Happy Friday! I hope you have a lovely weekend!!!
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I was a skydiver some years ago when my ex-wife filed for divorce. Even though I had already packed my chute for my next jump I unpacked it and checked it carefully. I also had my reserve repacked before I made my next jump. I wasn't taking any chances!
Wow, she must've been SOMETHING ELSE for you to even have had to be worried on such a level- YIKES!! Glad you're ok!! 🤗
You had a sense that you were sleeping with the enemy 👹
Yeah I know what you’re talking about… When my mother tells me she loves me…
I check the facts!!
Glad you landed on your feet!
That a mom makes her child feel like that is heartbreaking!
Hope you also took her off your life insurance as well. You were wise to be so cautious.
OMG, you are so right. My ex even try to tell me what to say in court at my divorce hearing.
I'd like to see your analysis of how Ian Watkins, lead singer of Lost Prophets manipulated his partners into colluding with him in the abuse of their own children.
Theres no way you can just manipulate a mother into molesting and taking lewd pictures of their own children. He purposefully sought out equally evil women to commit those horrible acts with.
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He was also charged with animal pornography. WTFH? I didn't even know that was a thing
I'm happy you called him a narcissist, even though you are not diagnosing anyone. Interesting commentary on "the crown", thank God we still over in a world of free thoughts. Love your channel. Thanks Dr. G
Great timing! I'm just wearing my new Dr Grande T shirt! I'm the envy of everyone I meet! Huzzah! Happy Weekend Dr G and everyone.😊
Yes, great case study, thank you. From personal experience, when under the control of an abusive narcissist for some time, it's extremely difficult to come to terms with the reality that one must "betray" their narcissistic, extremely dangerous partner and expose the truth. The loss of sense of self and the fear of exposure and then not actually being believed, combined with the fact that the stronghold is so great that all personal decisions are second guessed, and the reality that this would forever change what has been the norm, despite it not being healthy or safe, all of this control makes leaving and exposing the narcissist so challenging. Necessary all the same, but the moving forward part is brutal.
Thanks for being a constant we can all count on, Dr. Grande. 😊
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Today, Todd, I found your amylases of this case very helpful to myself. Thank you for that.
Thank you Dr Grande, for the great content you upload daily, it never fails to make my day.
Hi CT - Happy weekend! Shrimp on the Barbe? Is this your winter? Not yet probably. Hope you are feeling in the pink! 💐
@@bthomson Hello my friend, yes it's cold here and we're still in Autum, I hope you are going well, have missed you all. 😜❤💙🌷🌸🌹🍀
Heard Victoria being interviewed on Women's Hour, BBC radio 4 not long ago, she now acknowledges his guilt and that she was under his spell....
There may not have been direct physical evidence of the fact that he sabotaged the parachutes but there was direct evidence that both parachutes were sabotaged which contradicts her testimony. And there was direct evidence that he was the one who caused the gas leak. There was overwhelming circumstantial evidence, of course, as well.
Thanks for the continuously reasonable content!
I’m a scuba diver. My former husband removed weight from my rig at depth. Being under weighted, I started to rise to the surface. An uncontrolled ascent can result in depth. Luckily, I kept my wits about me and slowed my ascent.
I yelled at him when we surfaced and silently vowed never to get back in the water with him. I still don’t know whether removing weight from my rig was an irresponsible, bone headed mistake or a murder attempt. It’s really hard to deal with evidence that someone you loved and trusted with your life would do something so horrible.
Report it to the police. It might save another woman's life. Do you want that on your conscience?
What did he say immediately afterwards?
So glad you caught on to that. As a former diver I know how dangerous that can be. Nice to know you out witted that pos.
Was this the icing on the cake incident that made you file for divorce? So very sorry to hear your trust was shaken. That must have been a terrifying experience!
Was it life insurance
If Victoria states SHE tampered with the gas, wouldn’t that pose a risk to her children? In that case, why was she allowed to keep her children. Why wasn’t a child protective agency not asked to evaluate both parents fitness to parent their children? I wonder if she would have continued to cover up the truth of the events if custody of her children was at stake. The big fail isn’t so much that she stopped cooperating to the point that she was helping him, but that certain actions weren’t taken to review the children’s home environment and safety.
What a quote Dr. Grande! Their toxic relationship. It will be an exciting ride but the result will definitely have a definitive and crushing end.😆😭
Shame on you!
Shame on you!
@@caroleminke6116 🤣🤣 You obviously missed the joke. I'm not responsible of how you perceive something 😏
I’m a grad student and I happened to be watching one of your statistics analysis videos as an aid w/my project, only to realize I was also listening to your true crime review on auto play. Love your videos! 😅
If anybody doesn't realize how many scholarly videos Dr. Grande has made, they should really check out his older work! Highly impressive!
@@bthomson I need to go back and watch ALL of those, I've watched many of his older videos, but there are still many I haven't been able to get to yet- something to look forward to- maybe I'll try one older video each day along with the NEW video he posts each day, and EVENTUALLY I'll hit them all- I only discovered the good Dr. about 6 Weeks-2 months ago, so I do have a lot to catch up on! Thanks for making this GREAT suggestion to everyone B Thom.- my fellow GG 4 Life! Lol 😂🤗💖
You have a treat in store!
Huh, this case makes the goose bombs run down my spine.
I was once married to such a psycho....
Some people we meet during our lives, we simply have to turn out back and, never look back and, do so before it's too late..
Same. Sadly I didn't get out quite soon enough. Luckily survived but he's currently serving a 13 year prison sentence
It's interesting how parasitic people can find partners that let them do that kind of harm and then defend them.
It's a shame that wife couldn't be put in an intervention. If Emile could harm her so easily, their children could be at the same risk.
wow, that's a wonderful and almost poetic ending.
You certainly have done a lot of research on this case, Dr. Grande. Lots of details and info. Very well presented.
Good afternoon Dr G,have a awesome weekend!!
Lost soul....don't worry, we have found you!! 🥰🤗💖
Oh Shay! You have a discerning heart! 💐
My grandmother liked to say "Always pack your own parachute". Good advice. Literally, and as a metaphor. The first thing I notice is the shirt you are wearing, Dr. Grande. And I love that color on you!
We are quite lucky doctor to have your commentary your thoughts and your break down these videos are wonderful keep them coming so far I've agreed with everything you said and I've watched a lot of these Bravo dr. Todd straight to the truth
I remember this case. Poor deluded Victoria, in thrall to a worthless predator. Glad to see you back in pink Dr Grande! 🇬🇧
Dr. Grande is brilliant.
AMEN 💯!! 🎯 😁
Mark is Brilliant for recognizing and stating that Dr. Grande is Brilliant!! Lol 🥰
Agreed!
@@shayb413 As it is said; (I think), "brilliance recognizes brilliance", right back at ya.
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Love your videos. Would love to hear your opinion on why some victims not only fall prey to narcissits, but why some display such an exteme amount of denial when doing so.
More and more, I'm glad I live alone.
People are getting crazy.
Always interesting.
Thank you.
Peace 💕🇺🇲
MFR - Hope you have at least a pet? It is often nice to just do as you please!
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Thank you for thinking of my goodwill.
Yes, I have a little dog and a crazy cat.
Peace
I think if your “significant other” has to say: “Which of you want me?”
The correct answer from both women is: “Not me.”
Thankfully one of us said thanks but no thanks
Brilliant word play, Dr.!
Another great analysis Dr Grande. You are seriously educating me. I haven't got much formal education and had not heard of narcissism until recently except in the context of Narcissi, the Greek God (I think 🤔) who fell in love with his own reflection in a pool. There are so many facets to a personality - who knew 🤔! I seem to have found an unwelcome diagnosis for myself amongst them all. I think I am a bit of an avoidant personality type. People are downright scarey 😱!!
Tell me you attempted to kill your wife without telling us you attempted to kill your wife.
“I have a high sex drive and Victoria has a low sex drive.”
Complete non sequitur.
What a piece of work!
In the military (I was a US Army Airborne Combat Military Police Officer) we call parachutes "Aerial Delivery System".
Dr Todd channels getting bigger and I'm not surprised 👍
A perfect way to end Friday night!
Have a great weekend!
@@bthomson you too 🌺🌸
"Which one of you wants me, ladies?" 😂🤣
Thank you for your excellent commentary, Dr. Grande!
Here for Dr. Grande, commenting for the algorithm.
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Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande! I completely agree with you about reasonable doubt in this case. ❤️
Forensic files, Cold Case files unsolved mysteries and Dr Grande's channel.. you definitely get it impressed in your conscience that you cannot trust a damn soul.......... Excuse me if I may be so BOLD!!!!!!
As a survivor of a narcissistic abuser, I cannot say that I am upset that the Crown used emotionality to get a conviction. He, and hundreds like him, got what was needed. These guys (and women) ought to be locked away from society.
Lovely, a Dr Grande video to chill to before sleeping. Thank for your hard work and first class videos.
What a charmer Emile was - not. Imagine attempting murdering his wife to be with his mistress, the mistress he was cheating on with a string of other women. Of course he wouldn't just leave his wife because he'd have had to pay child support and probably alimony too.
And after all that, Victoria tried to protect him. Unbelievable.
Great presentation Dr G
I’m coincidently listening to this on Easter. It was in my recommendations.
Same here.
The things people do to people they have claimed to love is beyond me. I will wake up, decide I've had enough for whatever is going on and I'll walk away. This is why I don't have children, the things people will do in the name of their children are abhorrent.
? Are you saying Victoria's actions are abhorrent? Or that emil did this for his kids? No idea how this is your takeaway, this case seems to just show a highly manipulative and selfish man taking advantage of the infatuation people feel in the start of relationships. Care to.clarify?
There’s a difference between a “high sex drive” and just being downright addicted to it and having commitment issues. That’s not a healthy level of enjoyment.
The contrast in comment content on this site with most every other I browse restores hope and a smile. The high cortical thought coupled with grammar, syntax and punctuation expressed on Dr. Grande's page is refreshing and alluring. I gave spelling a pass.
Wow. Great analysis!
I have ZERO empathy for people who live in denial
very interesting content !! as always .....please cover the Kimberly Proctor"s case from langford ...it is a very sad case ..with two horrible teens that murdered her for really no reason ..it touches on so many things that teens deal with and shows what happens when two psychopaths get together ...
Whats with the multiple periods after every sentence?......
@@richinyv1 I have a brain injury and I find it helps me get my thoughts down better when I am typing
@@griffin2263 I'm so sorry you've had to go through that!! Anything that helps you express yourself, more power to ya!! 🤗🥰💖
There’s always “a reason” for anything anyone does.
A “reason” is why people decide to do anything they do, every move one chooses to make is because of the “reason” behind it.
Example: “Why did you decide to get out of bed?” “The “reason” was, because I had to get ready for work.”
If people didn’t have a “reason,” they wouldn’t be able to decide things, they’d be sitting there like a rock.
Those girls killed the other because of a “reason,” such as jealousy, etc..
There’s no such thing as “no reason.”
As always excellent Dr. Grande 👍🤩😍🌵
Excellent Analysis.
I like your methodical analysis and consideration of facts on both sides.
It's shocking how much he manipulated women, and how many.
Any man who charms that many women has red flags all over him.
Dr Grande…are very witty and skilled. Victoria obviously has her own issues. Even after finding out everything in court she still contacted him in jail. Wow. She fell for him big time, and was walking on air…….literally. Wow……..
i respect and admire Dr. Grande's commitment to the reasonable doubt standard, and his ability to distinguish a preponderance of evidence standard from reasonable doubt standard. it should be noted that a jury has the benefit of watching the witness's testimony in full and, in this case, may have found victoria not to seem credible in the second trial, when she testified that she was responsible for the parachute failure etc.
His poor deluded wife Victoria. I hope he never gets out of prison. If he does, and if he has this high level of manipulative skills, he's going to be a danger to others.
I love the witty dry humor
I agree. The entire case revolved around his personality until it eventually convicted him, going to prove just how easy it is to manipulate the manipulator.
If there was nothing wrong with her main chute, as she later claimed, then why cut it away? An error in judgment? No, she was far too experienced to make that mistake. If she wanted to protect her husband, she could have just claimed that she wanted to end her own life -- but she didn't say that, did she?
And if there was nothing wrong, why were there pieces missing on the main chute? Like she suffered brain damage in the fall. Maybe she was afraid for her children’s lives at the hand of their father if she didn’t defend him. 🤔
Hi Dr. Grande. He sounds like a typical psychonarc obviously. He's not worth worrying about. She didn't have enough self confidence. The best solution would have been to leave permanently and move on. Thanks for another good analysis Dr. G. Love and peace to you and your family, peace, Janine Smiley😀😎🤩😍🙂
@15:25 so true. ( also, " If a husband trying to murder his wife twice isn't enough to kill the romance ... " 💗that Grande wit!)
As Norm Macdonald would say: “this guy is a real jerk!“
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This guy must be an amazing lover to put up with him for this!
Given how self-absorbed he is, it's tough to imagine.
Dr. Grande very appreciated your videos 📹 👏.
How do you do to have so many shirts 👕?
The shirt inquiry got a heart! His closet must be beautiful!
I was wondering when someone would talk about this!!! How horrific!!!!
Ps always nice to see my favorite Doc!
I have 5 sons and 4 daughters. My worst nightmare is one of them getting a partner like this guy and not having the self-esteem to give them the boot. Cheated on her, tried to murder her, and she still defended him in court. I'm not trying to judge her because I know these things are complicated, but honestly, sometimes you just need to cut a person loose. I'm 30 and I've been with my wife for 16 years. Don't get me wrong it hasn't always been easy but we've never tried to kill eachother at least. I've read and watched about loads of cases like this and it just makes me despair. When worst comes to worst the children should come first. Also, life insurance seems to play a massive role in a lot of these spousal murder conspiracies. At this point I'm thinking you'd probably be better off without it for Christ Sakes. I dunno, maybe I'm just lucky but it makes me feel incredibly blessed. Even though I'm not religious or anything. I guess this is why I watch this content if I'm being honest. Of course the analysis from an expert like Doc Grande is interesting but say me and my wife have an argument I'll watch a video like this and think: "Christ, at least we aren't these people" That probably sounds incredibly selfish but it is what it is. I feel bad for the victims and their families, but it makes me appreciate my life and how lucky I am so much more. It's one of those weird things where I feel sad for the victim but it also makes me appreciate what I've got.
Yet another important positive outcome of Dr. Grande's videos! At least we are not THOSE people!
You married at age 14 ?! o_0
@@AmyLSacks Nah, we didn't marry lol. We had kids at age 14. We were nearly 15 though. Her birthday is in April and mines in May. We only got properly married like 3 years ago haha. I always just called her my wife as a term of endearment. So we didn't "officially" marry until 3 years ago but she's always been my wife.
I can't decide if it's Dr. Grande's deadpan humor I like more or his content, call it both.