Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless discuss Derrick Rose's comments about the pressures of playing in his hometown. Watch more videos like this at www.espnamerica.com
Molly ruined First Take and was the beginning of the end. Cari Champion was the BEST moderator. Skip, SAS, and Cari were the peak of first take and opinionated sports media.
I'm not trying to take away anything from Rose. Rose is my favorite player. He's such a great person and is really greatness growing before our eyes. But since he doesn't have a second superstar on his team, then he believes he needs to take on the scoring load for his team, when he really doesn't. And I think hes learned that already because of the way the Bulls played with out him most of this year. It will be interesting to see him play next season. He'll probably come back better than ever!
Drose gd that’s why he moving like that. All he’s known his whole life is being aware and keeping your eyes open for threats. Imagine now your INSANELY famous. Instead of just staying safe on your block and city you gotta stay safe everywhere now
Excellent points from both Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless. I think they're both right. I hope Rose can figure out how to deal with the pressure, because that city needs him. He CAN take them to the promised land, but I think he needs help, just like Michael got from Scottie Pippen.
I agree with Bayless's point of view on the 2011 playoff side of D Rose. His heart is in it and he's trying to do too much whereas he doesn't have a cocky attitude. He's straight up and plays with all his heart but tries to do too much. My opinion, that MVP reward was too much for em. If he didn't get that titled, I think he would've played differently
This was a great debate. Different opinions, but respectful to each other. I just wish this is how they would act during all the topics they debate on because it is horrible to watch when they yell at each other
I think Derrick rose being out for more then a whole season turned out for the best. Now he can realize that he doesn't need to put all this pressure on himself seeing how his teamates can play without him, so now he is more in a PG status were he can trust to pass the ball and to add himself into the way Chicago has recently been playing, I believe they can win a championship with how their roster when derrick rose is back
Judging by D.Rose's demeanor, he doesn't seem like an outgoing type of person. He seems very reserved and introverted. Look at the All Star lineup introductions. LeBron and D Howard be dancing everywhere looking silly and D.Rose is just standing there being serious. He should interact with his fans but not all people are at ease with doing such a thing.
This is why I never approach celebrities I used to live in San Antonio I’ve seen Tim Duncan at restaurants and I’ve seen him at a basketball facility with his son i would never go up to him to ask for a picture or anything cause it’s just so disrespectful especially when there with their family
derrick rose will never leave his home town hes pride is 2 big for that. this live doesnt fit his personality cause rose is a quite type of player who concentrates on playing, but he will get used to it and there will come a day that people will not run after him like hyena's but will talk with him like hes a chicago native and wish him the best
Guys who can break down defense are extremely important in the playoffs. The Heat have already beaten them in the playoffs with a healthy Rose. On the bright side, Nate Robinson and Deng are the keys to winning. If they can score big in the playoffs with Chicago's tough defense, who knows what could happen.
I highly disagree with that, when he got the MVP he played like there was no tomorrow, because he had to live up to it. I don't believe in Bayless' "tries too much" because there's no such thing. The guy has pride in his game and in his 4th quarter abilities, he isn't afraid to take responsibility for the team, and he just is a leader. Rose is a great great fit for chicago. The bulls wanted a leader so bad that we actually almost settled for gordon as the franchise player. But rose came through.
Gotta to see it first. I thought it be like that the previous season. The bulls were winning and the ball was moving. But when he came back the ball started to stick and more of his teammates just watched
deng isnt known for his offense, how much can u depend on his offense where 2 out of 10 times he has a scoring night, and nate robinson isnt always consistent but amazing coming from the bench. u need a 2nd scorer next to rose, cause chicago is great on defense but lacks the offense
I agree with most comments I've seen on this topic but I think one more thing that needs to be said that hasn't is Derrick Rose needs to come to the conclusion with himself and mangement and ask for another star player or superstars player. Look at the league right now teams just be loading up. Knicks, Nets, Celtics, 76ers(who nobody seems to be talking about), and Heat. And that's just the east. Still got the Thunder and Lakers out west.
True he is a scoring PG, but westbrook has durant to lean on if hes tossing up bricks. Rose has to score and create some scoring oppurtunities for his teammates, which makes him think he needs to score more.
He meant he needs another player that can make his own shot, draw double-teams and come up in clutch situations, and that's something no one in the Bulls roster except Rose can do.
Deng's alright, Hamilton isn't as consistent as he used to be and Boozer came from Utah got paid and fell off big time, he was a 20-10 man in Utah, now we're lucky to see that 4 times in a season
interesting idea, maybe luol deng for james harden would have worked? Also would have made the thunder better with a good defender who has a pulse on offense unlike thabo
Stephen A. Smith is right on his last statement regarding LeBron not choosing Chicago. If LeBron went to Chicago, expectations would be sky high for him. He would be REQUIRED to exceed Jordan's six rings, and go toe to toe with Jordan's stats. Because had he gone to Chicago and failed to do so, he will be remembered as the guy behind Jordan's shadows. Now I understand why LeBron chose Miami instead.
even if wade retires miami has bosh and lebron. not to mention a team like new york with stoudemire and melo and a solid center in chandler and a amazing 3 point shooter in jr smith. teams like the nets who aquirred joe johnson and already have deron williams. chicago need 1 player who could make the diffrence outside of rose. let them try to get lamarcus aldridge
Thing is that Derrick Rose needs his own Robin. It was clear, ever since 2011 in the ECF, that the Bulls need a second scoring threat that serves as Rose's Robin. Now, if Miami got to pick him instead of Chicago, I wonder how Wade and Rose would've played together.
This is part of the reason why Drose needs another all star on the court with him. The bulls are a great team but its srsly all on his shoulders right now. Even the GOAT needed help to win a ring, Get him some help Chicago!!!!
the bulls went 60-22 his mvp season. there is no reason to leave yet, he has time, they need to start building the team around him like they have so far. Joahkim, Deng, Butler.
Now, your description of someone wanting it all, without winning anything, fit Dwight Howard like a glove. LeBron embraces the spotlight, but I don't know anyone that has ever said winning was not important to him. I think his decision to leave a bad organization like the Cavs proves that winning is what's important to him. Rose can win 10 rings and he still won't like the fame. It's just not who he is.
It'd be the Milwaukee affect. Jennings and Ellis both can get 20/10 every night but it never produces wins on a regular basis. maybe Rose and Harden could be like Wade and LeBron but I doubt that..I think it'd be too much indecision. Bulls would still win a lot, but come playoff time they might be like the Heat in 2011. who takes the final shot? who runs the point in the clutch? it's Roses team but Harden took over for Westbrook time after time after time. Go Bulls!
What position would he play?? D. Rose is a point guard with a shooting guard mentality... They need a playmaker type on that team.. D. Rose is a playmaker.. Well i guess if Harden played point guard, mabe that would work, but Harden is such a good offensive player, he would try to get his in too... I just dont think it would work...
Tbh I don't know Tyreke at all. That's why I don't think he'll be effective. My main point is that they need somebody who can create offense for others and score 20 by himself. Defensively they've always been good.
dwade is a a SG his secondary position is a pg he has the ability to be pg be it doesn't fit the heat lineup and hes more like a combo guard if u want 2 call it tht
its just if you want to be in the nba and youre a great player like he is youre going to be in the public eye, he knows what he signed up for yet he resents it
derrick rose is the def of a all heart player he's dangerous cuz he's the type of dude that can will himself n his team to the playoffs but at the same time it'l get to u and your body, that being said they need to cut boozer..this is gonna sound crazy but bring in john wall
Harden would be a good fit anywhere. The guy's scoring is like top 5 in this league. The Bulls need help scoring and pressuring the Heat defense. If Harden wanted to win a ring this year, the Bulls would have been a good option alongside Rose.
Yeah, 2 years is a big difference, Greg Oden has an 80% chance he will get injured again, And We don't know how brooklyn will play, but seeing who they have, it seems like they have a very good chance, Spurs, Clippers, Houston, OKC, Pacers and Chicago can all take miami to 7 games.
i feel like the bulls will sign tyreke at the end of the year. No Harden but he and Deng could match with lebron and wade nicely, inside would crush them, and well.....Derrick is Derrick
How did she compare Jay Cutler to Derrick Rose? wtf 1/2 the city hated Cutler for not playing through pain during a Green Bay (our biggest rival) championship game. Rose played until he could not stand. And with his heart he would've been out there in a wheelchair taking shots just so we could win. No1 takes the Bears seriously w/Cutler. The whole league fears Chicago w/Rose playing. Big difference. 1/2 the city wants to marry D Rose.
drose shoots too much bc he has to, no one else on his team draws attention from the opposing D. luol deng is a great player but he doesnt draw doubles. i still feel that they are missing the key SG that can create his own shots and score w/o the ball. if the bulls can get the missing SG they are set and they can definitely win a championship. they have all the pieces but that one SG.
Totally Agree! Wade broke the CARDINAL rule about being from Chicago. He turned his back on us. We value loyalty, hard work, and friendship and he f*#&ing toyed with our emotions. He was never leaving Miami and that was ok. What wasn't ok was lying to the Chicago people that there was a chance he he'd play here when the decision was already made.
It’s much more watchable when the moderator isn’t interrupting unlike Molly
Agreed
Who's this moderator btw?
But skip is unbearable so it evens out
Molly ruined First Take and was the beginning of the end. Cari Champion was the BEST moderator. Skip, SAS, and Cari were the peak of first take and opinionated sports media.
@@TheRealTurkFebruaryI like Jay Crawford too
Did Stephen A say " media whores" at 1:40 lol ?
😂😂😂 it must have a different meaning then we think but that’s funny as hell.
I'm not trying to take away anything from Rose. Rose is my favorite player. He's such a great person and is really greatness growing before our eyes. But since he doesn't have a second superstar on his team, then he believes he needs to take on the scoring load for his team, when he really doesn't. And I think hes learned that already because of the way the Bulls played with out him most of this year. It will be interesting to see him play next season. He'll probably come back better than ever!
Drose gd that’s why he moving like that. All he’s known his whole life is being aware and keeping your eyes open for threats. Imagine now your INSANELY famous. Instead of just staying safe on your block and city you gotta stay safe everywhere now
Mr. Rose is WISE beyond his YEARS....... I hope he stays humble, stays the hometown hero.
Lmao wtf
Not being an attention whore is wise?
@@Leonardo2003 nigga replied to a 9 year comment. wtf
I think its hilarious when stephen a and skip argue .. BUT, i dont know why, i like it better when they agree and give each other props
Incredible that he got hurt like 10 days after this segment.
Wow..crazy man
Derrick rose is not the goat
Words have power
but he is so humble. Everything he does is humble. What a humble player. I wish everyone could be so humble.
Derrick Rose is way realer than Michael Jordan #FACT...Jordan didn't do shit for the hood.....but Rose does
+MultiKingdarius definitely mj is a jerk d rose is more relatable and is a good dude
+benjamin grant they're also the ones that would try to steal from you and make you feel as if you owe them something
MultiKingdarius but mj gave shoes to 5000000 shoes to homeless kids
Winners are jerks.
MJ not from the hood, North Carolina
Excellent points from both Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless. I think they're both right. I hope Rose can figure out how to deal with the pressure, because that city needs him. He CAN take them to the promised land, but I think he needs help, just like Michael got from Scottie Pippen.
I agree with Bayless's point of view on the 2011 playoff side of D Rose. His heart is in it and he's trying to do too much whereas he doesn't have a cocky attitude. He's straight up and plays with all his heart but tries to do too much. My opinion, that MVP reward was too much for em. If he didn't get that titled, I think he would've played differently
skip was right in the long run
Todd Phillips he got hurt tf
He got hurt, he could’ve been wayyyy better then how it turned out.
he really was, chicago dragged him down
I mean d rose got injured so idk that had anything with him not having a superstar
yeah i know, but its good to get two perspectives on things.
Stephen A Smith is so sophisticated in his speech. I got mad respect for him
This was a great debate. Different opinions, but respectful to each other. I just wish this is how they would act during all the topics they debate on because it is horrible to watch when they yell at each other
Can't wait to see DRose back happy again
I think Derrick rose being out for more then a whole season turned out for the best. Now he can realize that he doesn't need to put all this pressure on himself seeing how his teamates can play without him, so now he is more in a PG status were he can trust to pass the ball and to add himself into the way Chicago has recently been playing, I believe they can win a championship with how their roster when derrick rose is back
Judging by D.Rose's demeanor, he doesn't seem like an outgoing type of person. He seems very reserved and introverted. Look at the All Star lineup introductions. LeBron and D Howard be dancing everywhere looking silly and D.Rose is just standing there being serious. He should interact with his fans but not all people are at ease with doing such a thing.
he does interact with fans
This is why I never approach celebrities I used to live in San Antonio I’ve seen Tim Duncan at restaurants and I’ve seen him at a basketball facility with his son i would never go up to him to ask for a picture or anything cause it’s just so disrespectful especially when there with their family
I hope D Rose get's healthy and wins it all, I'm gonna be rooting for him
😥
man 9 years just flew and how
u jinxed it mannn
Yeah that really would have been nice. As long as they could have managed to keep Noah, Deng, and Gibson in the process.
trust me bro hes not racist. hes just the truth.
He absolutely loves Derrick Rose. He just says he isn't fit for a big city such as Chicago due to his home-town hero-ness.
We hate wade here in Chicago. He don't do everything for Chicago like D-Rose
Pri nce And then he played for them last year lol
@@Supermariohoops24 Lol these guys were stupid. He dont owe Chicago anything
derrick rose will never leave his home town hes pride is 2 big for that. this live doesnt fit his personality cause rose is a quite type of player who concentrates on playing, but he will get used to it and there will come a day that people will not run after him like hyena's but will talk with him like hes a chicago native and wish him the best
Very true but i doubt we'd be able to fit in another star under the salary cap maybe boozer would have to be traded
Guys who can break down defense are extremely important in the playoffs. The Heat have already beaten them in the playoffs with a healthy Rose. On the bright side, Nate Robinson and Deng are the keys to winning. If they can score big in the playoffs with Chicago's tough defense, who knows what could happen.
lol i was surprised too. Its a first for me that skip is not trolling Stephen A
I get what your saying, but sometimes it's so obvious they disagree just for the sake of rating
I highly disagree with that, when he got the MVP he played like there was no tomorrow, because he had to live up to it. I don't believe in Bayless' "tries too much" because there's no such thing. The guy has pride in his game and in his 4th quarter abilities, he isn't afraid to take responsibility for the team, and he just is a leader. Rose is a great great fit for chicago. The bulls wanted a leader so bad that we actually almost settled for gordon as the franchise player. But rose came through.
Gotta to see it first. I thought it be like that the previous season. The bulls were winning and the ball was moving. But when he came back the ball started to stick and more of his teammates just watched
deng isnt known for his offense, how much can u depend on his offense where 2 out of 10 times he has a scoring night, and nate robinson isnt always consistent but amazing coming from the bench. u need a 2nd scorer next to rose, cause chicago is great on defense but lacks the offense
I never thought of that, but Bulls can beat Heat without Rose. Imagine what they would do with him!
I agree with most comments I've seen on this topic but I think one more thing that needs to be said that hasn't is Derrick Rose needs to come to the conclusion with himself and mangement and ask for another star player or superstars player. Look at the league right now teams just be loading up. Knicks, Nets, Celtics, 76ers(who nobody seems to be talking about), and Heat. And that's just the east. Still got the Thunder and Lakers out west.
True he is a scoring PG, but westbrook has durant to lean on if hes tossing up bricks. Rose has to score and create some scoring oppurtunities for his teammates, which makes him think he needs to score more.
He meant he needs another player that can make his own shot, draw double-teams and come up in clutch situations, and that's something no one in the Bulls roster except Rose can do.
Deng's alright, Hamilton isn't as consistent as he used to be and Boozer came from Utah got paid and fell off big time, he was a 20-10 man in Utah, now we're lucky to see that 4 times in a season
huge respect for d rose.
interesting idea, maybe luol deng for james harden would have worked? Also would have made the thunder better with a good defender who has a pulse on offense unlike thabo
Stephen A. Smith is right on his last statement regarding LeBron not choosing Chicago. If LeBron went to Chicago, expectations would be sky high for him. He would be REQUIRED to exceed Jordan's six rings, and go toe to toe with Jordan's stats. Because had he gone to Chicago and failed to do so, he will be remembered as the guy behind Jordan's shadows.
Now I understand why LeBron chose Miami instead.
the nets are also doing a good job, brook lopez could become a allstar one day and 2 very solid players like wallace and johnson.
they really dont need 1 we got deng for defence noah for rebounding and rip for scoring rose can win it by himself
Can we not just have a take show all-star game with these two?
even if wade retires miami has bosh and lebron. not to mention a team like new york with stoudemire and melo and a solid center in chandler and a amazing 3 point shooter in jr smith. teams like the nets who aquirred joe johnson and already have deron williams. chicago need 1 player who could make the diffrence outside of rose. let them try to get lamarcus aldridge
When first take was perfect before Molly came and started interpreting everyone . Cari champion did good but molly would you please shut up lol
i wouldnt say hes pass first but he definatley is a good passer
first time they werent cutting eachother off and interputing
D Rose and Josh Smith would be a great duo
i hate it when the top comment is reply to some other comment and the other comment is deleted
Thing is that Derrick Rose needs his own Robin. It was clear, ever since 2011 in the ECF, that the Bulls need a second scoring threat that serves as Rose's Robin.
Now, if Miami got to pick him instead of Chicago, I wonder how Wade and Rose would've played together.
Or if Carmelo remained a free agent in 2011 instead of taking an extension he could've went to Chicago in the 2011 offseason! 🤷🏿♂️
Drose needs another offensive threat if they want to be a championship contender......
for the first time these two guys are agreeing with each other 0.0
This is part of the reason why Drose needs another all star on the court with him. The bulls are a great team but its srsly all on his shoulders right now. Even the GOAT needed help to win a ring, Get him some help Chicago!!!!
yeah, and Dwight is not top 5 PG (that makes as much sense as your comment)
Wade is a SG ! he is a combo guard but his position is SG not PG
the bulls went 60-22 his mvp season. there is no reason to leave yet, he has time, they need to start building the team around him like they have so far.
Joahkim, Deng, Butler.
carlin J. yeah we see how that turned out
carlin J. WELL SHIT
tyreke real is a point guard ( kinda like lebron ) he is from chicago like rose and he is very good when determined
Now, your description of someone wanting it all, without winning anything, fit Dwight Howard like a glove. LeBron embraces the spotlight, but I don't know anyone that has ever said winning was not important to him. I think his decision to leave a bad organization like the Cavs proves that winning is what's important to him. Rose can win 10 rings and he still won't like the fame. It's just not who he is.
stephen a is always on point. this should be his show. skip annoying sometimes by his "knowledge"
no they dont need another durant to win, that would be great, but rose just needs someone who is consistent
He's just saying he looks like one when he's actually just trying to take on the scoring load for the Bulls.
I know right?
NOAH IS AN ALL STAR!!!!!! HE IS A KEY PART TO THE TEAM
It'd be the Milwaukee affect. Jennings and Ellis both can get 20/10 every night but it never produces wins on a regular basis. maybe Rose and Harden could be like Wade and LeBron but I doubt that..I think it'd be too much indecision. Bulls would still win a lot, but come playoff time they might be like the Heat in 2011. who takes the final shot? who runs the point in the clutch? it's Roses team but Harden took over for Westbrook time after time after time. Go Bulls!
What position would he play?? D. Rose is a point guard with a shooting guard mentality... They need a playmaker type on that team.. D. Rose is a playmaker.. Well i guess if Harden played point guard, mabe that would work, but Harden is such a good offensive player, he would try to get his in too... I just dont think it would work...
Tbh I don't know Tyreke at all. That's why I don't think he'll be effective. My main point is that they need somebody who can create offense for others and score 20 by himself. Defensively they've always been good.
dwade is a a SG his secondary position is a pg he has the ability to be pg be it doesn't fit the heat lineup and hes more like a combo guard if u want 2 call it tht
its just if you want to be in the nba and youre a great player like he is youre going to be in the public eye, he knows what he signed up for yet he resents it
Dude, their winning games without D Rose- Deng and Noah are stepping up. Obviously not perfect but their solid.
well if dwight goes to chicago they are just as a powerful team
derrick rose is the def of a all heart player he's dangerous cuz he's the type of dude that can will himself n his team to the playoffs but at the same time it'l get to u and your body, that being said they need to cut boozer..this is gonna sound crazy but bring in john wall
Hell is freezing over. I just agreed with Skip Bayless on something..
💯💯💯
Harden would be a good fit anywhere. The guy's scoring is like top 5 in this league. The Bulls need help scoring and pressuring the Heat defense. If Harden wanted to win a ring this year, the Bulls would have been a good option alongside Rose.
Yeah, 2 years is a big difference, Greg Oden has an 80% chance he will get injured again, And We don't know how brooklyn will play, but seeing who they have, it seems like they have a very good chance, Spurs, Clippers, Houston, OKC, Pacers and Chicago can all take miami to 7 games.
thanks
i love chicago best sport city in the known universe
Do they really have to disagree every single time
he will come back... probably next season, but he will !
what's her name?
Rip Hamilton and Deng are good offensively and Boozer gets it done?
What's her name?
Lmao. you want the guy who just said that he is uncomfortable in the limelight in NEW YORK.
damn lebron seems to always be mentioned
Because he's the only player who can consistently score on the Bulls.
i like how they tune out the chick every time she tries to jump in LOL
rose is a machine, half man, half amazing, no doubt
been there, done that. was good
pause at 3:03
they agreed....? THEY AGREED?!!!
guess its clean for the television.
i feel like the bulls will sign tyreke at the end of the year. No Harden but he and Deng could match with lebron and wade nicely, inside would crush them, and well.....Derrick is Derrick
1:39 SAS says "media whores" lol
LMFAOOOOOO. I miss this prime first take
How did she compare Jay Cutler to Derrick Rose? wtf
1/2 the city hated Cutler for not playing through pain during a Green Bay (our biggest rival) championship game.
Rose played until he could not stand. And with his heart he would've been out there in a wheelchair taking shots just so we could win.
No1 takes the Bears seriously w/Cutler.
The whole league fears Chicago w/Rose playing. Big difference. 1/2 the city wants to marry D Rose.
Michael Jordan hated the feeling too. It in no way reflects their play or how great they will become.
The way Skip is describing D Rose, is the same way LeBron had to play by himself in Cleveland.
true
drose shoots too much bc he has to, no one else on his team draws attention from the opposing D. luol deng is a great player but he doesnt draw doubles. i still feel that they are missing the key SG that can create his own shots and score w/o the ball. if the bulls can get the missing SG they are set and they can definitely win a championship. they have all the pieces but that one SG.
shes has better replys then skip does
Totally Agree! Wade broke the CARDINAL rule about being from Chicago. He turned his back on us. We value loyalty, hard work, and friendship and he f*#&ing toyed with our emotions. He was never leaving Miami and that was ok. What wasn't ok was lying to the Chicago people that there was a chance he he'd play here when the decision was already made.