"I speak in frequencies dogs would have trouble hearing Canibus is the lyrical version of German engineering" At the time Canibus was a monster. I think he won the battle honestly
Don't get excited Cuz if I ever catch one of you motherfu**ers biting We're going to be fist fighting So motherfucker what you want? I have the shotgun pumped You feel like a frog ni**a, then jump
2nd round KO is one of the greatest diss records ever made. I stand with the minority of people that thought Canibus won that battle vs LL. Nobody is going to change that opinion ever
Canibus is like the Mahmoud Abdul Rauf of Hip Hop... He's one of the greatest to ever do it but the Blackball was so vicious. and real hip hop heads knew what was up. Canibus was the new young gunner coming up.
Saw his CD back in the day and I was so happy to get it. Turns out it was just the single since the album wasn’t out yet. In the right situation Canibus would’ve been one of the best. I wish the RZA would’ve been working on his albums from the beginning.
His Verse On The Firm "Desperados" WHOOOOO And His "Making A Name For Ourselves" With Common Along With "Fantastic 4" With Cam'ron, Big Pun And N.O.R.E..... His "Melatonin Magik" Album Is Dope Too....
So happy to see Bis back and on these platforms , Bis is a legend and deserves his flowers , bar for bar Bis in his prime nobody was on his level . Even his later work , his pen game always been top notch
Bis is dope! That being said Big Pun was the greatest in that era he died before his full potential was reached and still would kill rappers to this day.
People will lie and deny it but during his run absolutely no mc in the industry wanted problems with canibus and his homie journalist was a monster as well.
I here you, but disagree. If your statement was true we would have never ever heard of Canibus. Those same gate keepers gave him a real budget, album, videos, concerts, etc.
@@p4rt_t1me_g0d Believe what you believe bruh, but I will quote something Nas has said in several interviews. “Nobody can blackball me…what does that even mean…how can you let someone or a company stop you.” This is not a direct quote, but he said this in his words I just can’t remember that exact words.
At 13 years old I walked to Sam Goody and purchased my first two cassette tapes Canibus - 2000 BC and Method Man Judgement Day 🔥 I still play both at the gym #Salute Canibus one of the 🐐
LL: "Yeah you can get that, as long as you rep it you can get that! 😤" Canibus: I didn't think that he meant "aiight yo we gonna battle for 25 years" LMAO!!! Canibus is such an incredible storyteller... I swear he should have a TH-cam channel or a podcast or do Ted Talks... This is incredible so far, I cannot wait until the next clip.
Yall dudes will post anything om yputube like some of us wasnt actually alive in 97 and 98 and off the porch . Like DMX,Pun Outkast,HOV wasnt running shit? and Canibus first album was a major flop dude CLASSIC ALBUMS >>> FREESTYLES
@@plaibwoy bro if you were outside as you say you were, and didn’t go WTF to yourself when you heard a Canibus freestyle in 97 idk what else to say man.
Brilliant. These guys are getting really good at this interviewing and selection of guests. Canibus is such a legend. This guys battled LL, hold his own on the Firm album and mad ename in battle rap….. such a great forgotten MC. Appreciate this interview man. Rediscovering how dope this guy was…..streams are up for Canibus!!
dope interview so far! Canibus was a lyrical beast when he came out…glad he got a chance to chop it up with you guys and talk about that history! Salute Math! 🔥
Bars like "I Battle You Juggling A hand Grenade Wit da pin Out/In A Stolen Car Wit Da Vin number Ripped OUT/Drinking A Guiness Stout Doing A 360 Spin Out" No human alive could see Canibus on the mic in his prime.
Rip The Jacker is a classic album in my opinion. Bis finally got great production and Poet Laureate 2 was incredible at the time. Spitters like Lupe big up that track as a massive influence.
this is a good episode. I listened to Canibus a lot in high school. it's cool to see him talk about what was really going on with him during that time. he seems real and quite humble
I feel Math is the perfect person to have this convo with Bis 💯. The mixture of empathy, real talk energy and understanding to get through the challenging parts also that shared history on how the game can turn on a person is needed to bring out this story. Bis 👑💯we can feel the pain from that beef with LL, At the time a young super talented emcee who would have most definitely chose mentorship over beef. It's a shame older emcees and DJ's didn't step in to smooth it over and help you both build together 💯 Just know you are deeply appreciated Bis you and LL are both legends 💯👑
We all love LL but Canibus got that 1…LL’s response was 🔥 the beat was craaaazy… but Can went in with that young hungry if you ever rapped and got into it with a veteran you had to come like dat(pause) RESPECT TO ALL …Thanks for giving us that Legendary moment
He won. Unfortunately it went down in the wrong era. LL had the machine and the machine said Canibus lost so that was that. But those of us who still love hip hop in its purity, in its raw lyricism are most of the opinion that Canibus took that one
Yo it's CRAZY to hear Math talking about the mentality of smoking anybody when he shows up to Canibus. That INSTANTLY made me think about Canibus when he said "my only concern when I approach you is to roast you, I'll smoke you AND whoever you standing close too and make every man in your crew deny that he knows you"
Love that bis showed love to Frazier. He's my favorite boxer of all time. First man to beat Ali and one of the best to do it but rarely gets his flowers.
@@SutekhDaSteemroller They do have a Frazier statue. It's just not where the museum steps are. I went to Philly a couple of years ago and made sure to visit the Frazier statue. It's right by their football arena. Also went to his gym which is now a furniture store. The owners were cool, they showed me where he used to hang the heavy bags and where the ring was placed. I think bhop was trying to turn it into a historical landmark so they can never tear it down but not sure if he succeeded.
I love the perspective MATH took in this clip as a battle rapper. And what was crazy was Canibus' perspective from the eyes of 19 year old. I can't wait to watch the ENTIRE interview. Well done!
@@BlackMusicGenre he just turned 50 this year. He was born in 1974. He was like 23 or 24 during that time. Nas is a lil bit older he was born in 1970 or 71 something like that.
Man!! Canibus!!! we love you outchea in Africa, Nigeria. me and my boys used to listen to your records and we reckoned with you as one of the best MCs to ever do it. And we hated the fact that the industry had you blackballed. eh, mad love out here... God bless you.
Canibus missed when Math essentially told him that it was a part of the game to be sized up by an older MC and that you would have to fight back, by basically saying LL had to do the same w Kool Mo Dee when he was younger (Mama Said Knock You Out).
YOOOOOO Math be getting Brothas to go deep (pause) with how they really really feel about a situation they were involved in. I have NEVER seen any other show evoke THIS much detail and energy out of people.
Starting to put it all together after Math made him think about being on the Def Jam Board next to DMX.... and having LL see that too through being at Def Jam. That obviously opened eyes to how the industry felt and made the artists alert... like how Hoffa was alluding. But if you put more pieces together, you realize DMX crossed Canibus path and they were cool.... so you can put together that ... if the industry wanted to use Canibus as a bar to reach, as an upcoming artist. LL might have said "I'll just jump out the window and see what this shit is all about period" ... I'm speculating, but they may have asked DMX at one point to throw shots to draw attention and marketing.. and he was like nah I'm good. But one of those artists up there was like "I got pull to go see and if anything happens.... I got history and money backing me to make sure shits good" I speculate this because I thought Canibus was gonna admit he jumped out the window at one point. But he still sticks to his side of just rolling with the punches. LL had always been the overly aggressive one to me for no reason. I bet that board and aspect of seeking Canibus out intrigued him. Could have been way nastier too... he could have known Canibus was new and floating around ... with a name big enough to compare Def Jam artists to... so he said "I can get points off just trying to bury this dude" It would be a cheap way to attack a fresh boogey man and secure a major battle rap W in the process. Not gonna lie, Canibus is one of my favorites, I got all his CDs and signed copies of shit... but thats an enticing moment... to make a name trying to take him out, before he can even get a foothold. For an established artist... that would be an easy W and decades of bragging rights with the right marketing. And you already got his bio and roadmap right on your record labels wall to study and sabotage In this clip Canibus also firstly shouted out Redman for putting him on a song with 50 bars. There was talk Canibus would sign with Wutang perhaps back in the day.... by putting Redman and Methodman on the same song that you requested... you are neutralizing his rivals all in one swoop. Meth And Red immediately have to play it off and stand in the cut while it plays out. They arent gonna fight back or say shit and now Canibus has no big underground names to run to or a crew to join for response or to team with. By default they are gonna let LL Cool J do what he wants and stand to the side. Wouldnt this same thing happen with Eminem and Canibus too? Canibus acted weird meeting him on video shoot... but then Eminem's love for LL made him say "100% fuck this dude" then Canibus accused him of helping LL and all types of shit. That would be a soft case of the same thing where LL's presence made Eminem and Canibus by default not get along. I think Wyclef did the same thing when shit hit the fan... he was like "you're on your own with LL cool J" By default it puts Canibus on his own island to fend for himself before his career even starts. It reminds me of NY when Biggie was looking for allies against PAC but all them dudes were hating on BIG anyway and hoping shit wouldnt work out for him. Then Pac tried to swoop in and make Death Row East with all the people who were left so Biggie couldnt grab any backup that was left over. And instead of "picking sides" the NY artists left pretended it was just about money and label, like they werent gonna get involved 😂 If 2pac and Biggie lived, Death Row East would have been extorted and they would have made those dudes diss Biggie or get shelved and drink piss.
Dope 2 see Canibus back outside.... Great look kings 🤴.... Great Questions aswell.. . Might be uncomfortable canines but the world 🌎 would love 2 know some of these answers.... Fire again cast....
2nd Round Knockout Top 5 Diss songs ever. No subs straight shots to the head this was a moment I am glad I saw happened as it was happening. Back then there was no internet blogs really to keep up with the talk it was straight Source Magazine, Rap Pages , Vibe Magazine to get more info. I had this song on cassette and I still have it
Much love to Canibus man, Thank ya'll for letting him clear the air with some of this weight he's been carrying for decades. No judgement, just a conversation with him. When it comes to that battle, he won... But lost the war. The sad part is that looking back, he was just a foot soldier that didn't even know what he was fighting for. My younger self had that same energy Math spoke on, anybody could have got it. So happy I didn't blow up then. Salute to 'Bis the living legend.
@@amanialex8235 when they had that one site for infinity, I downloaded the beats and rhymes and I combined all of them into one song. It's about an hour long of straight bars
Bis got blackballed by the industry & LL probably had something to do with that. But man, till this day Canibus had some of illest rhymes I've ever heard. And I also think Bis won that battle & made the bigger impact. He literally said what everyone was thinking about LL at the time.
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"I speak in frequencies dogs would have trouble hearing Canibus is the lyrical version of German engineering" At the time Canibus was a monster. I think he won the battle honestly
Still is.
Canibus was setting them collie tapes on fire !!
Don't get excited
Cuz if I ever catch one of you motherfu**ers biting
We're going to be fist fighting
So motherfucker what you want?
I have the shotgun pumped
You feel like a frog ni**a, then jump
Basic mathematics, the verbal mechanics of rhymin’
Behold, I crush a piece of coal and create a diamond.
Man I miss them clue tapes
2nd round KO is one of the greatest diss records ever made. I stand with the minority of people that thought Canibus won that battle vs LL. Nobody is going to change that opinion ever
Facts 🎯🎯🎯🎯
Canibus smoked LL
I thought the majority thought bis won. LL's responses weren't that good, other than the 99% of your fans don't exist line
Gucci MaNe "TruTH" I get Goosebumps off that Track! 😳
Facts... the bars that Canibus drop were crazy..
This is why this show is amazing. The build up to the laugh at the end was epic. Math, Salute!
Seamless
YES!
You're right then the gunshot made it perfect
Can knows how to tell a story.
And it was unscripted!! Great stuff.
CAN-I-BUS this man literally changed my entire lifeview. I pursued a math degree as a young brother in the hood BECAUSE of Canibus!!! LEGEND!!!
Ha! Good for you, bro. I wish I heard more brothas shifting to Math degrees. When you major in Math, you literally can pursue any career you want.
you're not alone
Canibus is like the Mahmoud Abdul Rauf of Hip Hop... He's one of the greatest to ever do it but the Blackball was so vicious. and real hip hop heads knew what was up. Canibus was the new young gunner coming up.
Canibus album was trash
Blackballed???
Saw his CD back in the day and I was so happy to get it. Turns out it was just the single since the album wasn’t out yet. In the right situation Canibus would’ve been one of the best. I wish the RZA would’ve been working on his albums from the beginning.
@Dontdoittoyoself Around that era I felt he should have went with Trackmasters. But he would have been dope with Rza also.
Don't care what NOBODY SAYS......... Canibus have verses still to this day dudes cannot touch. He's 1 of the main reasons for battle rap💯💯💯
lol chill about that battle rap shit, hiphop is also battle rap.
Talking about BattleRap, I know math is going to ask about that Diz battle ….
Math deff gon bring up the diz shit especially the history math has with diz too
His Verse On The Firm "Desperados" WHOOOOO And His "Making A Name For Ourselves" With Common Along With "Fantastic 4" With Cam'ron, Big Pun And N.O.R.E..... His "Melatonin Magik" Album Is Dope Too....
NAh fr tho
So happy to see Bis back and on these platforms , Bis is a legend and deserves his flowers , bar for bar Bis in his prime nobody was on his level . Even his later work , his pen game always been top notch
Bis is dope! That being said Big Pun was the greatest in that era he died before his full potential was reached and still would kill rappers to this day.
YES when Canibus was in his prime N0 0ne was on his level, he used to DESTR0Y Clue Mixtapes!
It was Pun, Canibus and Big L. They were feared. Especially Big L and Pun. No one wanted to go after them in a song lol.
INDEED!!!!!
Yes it is a travesty that Avis haven’t been receiving his flowers.
Thank you Math Hoffa for having one of the greatest of all-time that got blackballed from the industry. #Canibus 🐐👑💯
Reach! Canibus is dope but you're lying right now
@@ALexander-ue3kj Canibus is definitely one of the greatest Lyricist of all time.. That's a fact believe it or not it's up to you
Supa🧢
People will lie and deny it but during his run absolutely no mc in the industry wanted problems with canibus and his homie journalist was a monster as well.
@@eib3137 exactly all people have to do is do the history Canibus released many more classic albums after the first
Canibus talent was greater than the gate keepers wanted to accept from him.
I here you, but disagree.
If your statement was true we would have never ever heard of Canibus.
Those same gate keepers gave him a real budget, album, videos, concerts, etc.
That's so true 🎯💯💯
@@daweeza42 The gatekeepers changed up after 2nd round Knockout
@@daweeza42 How does a rapper basically end the career of another rapper who's better than he is?
It's impossible without help from the gatekeepers.
@@p4rt_t1me_g0d Believe what you believe bruh, but I will quote something Nas has said in several interviews.
“Nobody can blackball me…what does that even mean…how can you let someone or a company stop you.”
This is not a direct quote, but he said this in his words I just can’t remember that exact words.
Canibus is the first time I hated hip hop for how he got blackballed. He's a lyrical G.O.A.T.
Yes. Showed me how the world works as well.
Why was he blackballed
@@BriannaDaylonjust because LL wouldn't ever admit he's better than him. You're gorgeous, are you done with the modeling school??
Facts!!!!!
@@pierrejephtemenahem oooooh got it! Lol no I've never been to modeling school but thank you and blessings to you for the compliment
At 13 years old I walked to Sam Goody and purchased my first two cassette tapes Canibus - 2000 BC and Method Man Judgement Day 🔥 I still play both at the gym #Salute Canibus one of the 🐐
2000 bc was a cold mf
Indeed!!
Props to Canibus - he's standing his ground while simultaneously acknowledging his role in the whole situation (right or wrong) 💪🏾💪🏾
LL: "Yeah you can get that, as long as you rep it you can get that! 😤"
Canibus: I didn't think that he meant "aiight yo we gonna battle for 25 years"
LMAO!!! Canibus is such an incredible storyteller... I swear he should have a TH-cam channel or a podcast or do Ted Talks... This is incredible so far, I cannot wait until the next clip.
“In front of your mom, your first, second and third born
Make your wife get on the horn, call Minister Farrakhan”
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
So he could persuade me to squash it, I said nah he started it, he forgot what a hardcore artist is
That was a verbal whipping
Haha…I remember that! He nuked L
🔥🔥🔥🔥
A hardcore artist is a dangerous man such as myself, trained to run 20 miles of soft sand.
All of your supposed GOATS were outside when Canibus was out and he still shined the hardest! One of the best I’ve ever heard rap frfr
Facts canibus on Desperados is legendary!
@@el-aminsaunders5789 And notice NAS took himself OFF of the joint.....js
💣 str8 from classic pak 💯
Yall dudes will post anything om yputube like some of us wasnt actually alive in 97 and 98 and off the porch . Like DMX,Pun Outkast,HOV wasnt running shit? and Canibus first album was a major flop dude CLASSIC ALBUMS >>> FREESTYLES
@@plaibwoy bro if you were outside as you say you were, and didn’t go WTF to yourself when you heard a Canibus freestyle in 97 idk what else to say man.
Say what you want about Canibus, 2nd Round Knockout was vicious!
Canibus is a lyrical monster. Just bars on bars on bars.
When Buckingham Palace dropped on the clue tape !!! What a time to be alive
The original version with the chick singing the hook was straight goosebumps, Crack fumes
Buckingham Palace was different and Get Retarded
Brilliant. These guys are getting really good at this interviewing and selection of guests. Canibus is such a legend. This guys battled LL, hold his own on the Firm album and mad ename in battle rap….. such a great forgotten MC. Appreciate this interview man. Rediscovering how dope this guy was…..streams are up for Canibus!!
Canibus washed everybody on that firm album.
💯💯💯🗣💪🏾
2nd Round KO was a kill shot. Canibus took that battle IMO. One of the best diss records ever.
FACT
Factz
No sir. Ask Cannibus he ain’t understanding this, cus 99% his fans…. 😢
@@immaculatemal1379 that one ass line😆
Easy.
dope interview so far! Canibus was a lyrical beast when he came out…glad he got a chance to chop it up with you guys and talk about that history! Salute Math! 🔥
"We gon battle for twenty-five years!!!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lmao😂😂😂😂
Canibus is the reason I started writing battle rhymes.
Respect to the legend that inspired us to pick up that pen.
Facts bro
Bars like "I Battle You Juggling A hand Grenade Wit da pin Out/In A Stolen Car Wit Da Vin number Ripped OUT/Drinking A Guiness Stout Doing A 360 Spin Out" No human alive could see Canibus on the mic in his prime.
Those bars were outstanding. That was a freestyle right? Where can I find that?
@@TheWorkzBeatZ DJ Clue Freestyle 97' Mentality
@@flood76 thanks!
@@TheWorkzBeatZ Bless King 👑
th-cam.com/video/L3rPeVvte0U/w-d-xo.html
Canibus won with words....LL won the popularity contest.
LL won the business battle too.
yep...Same with Drake and Meek..
@@elliot2177nope. Drake cooked that boy. Meek was unprepared to rap.
@@elliot2177 don't rewrite history lol
@@elliot2177 drake and Joe budden
😂😂😂😂 Canibus is hilarious! I wanna see that brotha make it more in life! Can’t wait until the full interview drop!
LL cool j was a competitor...... in a way he felt threatened by Canibus
When actually it was DMX
I'm happy he gets to tell his story in this time and age and people are actually listening 👏👏👏
Rip The Jacker is a classic album in my opinion. Bis finally got great production and Poet Laureate 2 was incredible at the time. Spitters like Lupe big up that track as a massive influence.
MicClub the curriculum was also a classic and #2000BC
@@michaelknorr5575these are his best work
He doesn't speak like rappers . He is more eloquent and easy to understand unlike some rappers
this is a good episode. I listened to Canibus a lot in high school. it's cool to see him talk about what was really going on with him during that time. he seems real and quite humble
This MATH HoFFa podcast is ONE OF ONE!! These interviews with these Hip Hop Legends STRAIGHT 🔥 🔥 🔥
For real👏👌
It's good the see Bis out their being interviewed. Big ups on this Math ...
Facts! G Nems, now this!? Keep em coming
Greatest rap mind I ever! When he dropped he was so far ahead of his time! Like he came from the future or something.
Absolutely right!
2nd Round K.O. was way harder than LL's response. ....Top 10 all time diss record.
I thought so then, even more so now
@@peterhernandez7817yes Cannabis bodies LL
Ripper strikes back body canibus
Good to see him laughing behind that shit!!! Man that Canibus vs Dmx still go hard
And canibus murdered that shitttt
I feel Math is the perfect person to have this convo with Bis 💯. The mixture of empathy, real talk energy and understanding to get through the challenging parts also that shared history on how the game can turn on a person is needed to bring out this story.
Bis 👑💯we can feel the pain from that beef with LL, At the time a young super talented emcee who would have most definitely chose mentorship over beef. It's a shame older emcees and DJ's didn't step in to smooth it over and help you both build together 💯
Just know you are deeply appreciated Bis you and LL are both legends 💯👑
Exactly Math is empathtic and genuinely strives to understand his guest
💯🎯
Love this interview so far 🔥 🔥 🔥
I hope they talk to him about his career from 2000 to present 🤞
i never would have thought seeing canibus on here
me to on my life
Same. Bis doesn't really do much interviews.
Facts I did a double take
canibus is my favotite artist....thank you for this math hoffa we appreciate you
This is the interview I waited for since you started doing this 🔥🔥🔥
We all love LL but Canibus got that 1…LL’s response was 🔥 the beat was craaaazy… but Can went in with that young hungry if you ever rapped and got into it with a veteran you had to come like dat(pause) RESPECT TO ALL …Thanks for giving us that Legendary moment
"...I ain't think he meant if we can battle 25 years" 😂😂😂
This was another great one Math, Cannibus definitely poked the bear but I feel like he definitely held his down in the battle
He won. Unfortunately it went down in the wrong era.
LL had the machine and the machine said Canibus lost so that was that.
But those of us who still love hip hop in its purity, in its raw lyricism are most of the opinion that Canibus took that one
Salute to Math for having Canibus on 🔥... a lot of cats don't have the 🥜 too.
Niggas do .. nobody want to
Yo it's CRAZY to hear Math talking about the mentality of smoking anybody when he shows up to Canibus. That INSTANTLY made me think about Canibus when he said "my only concern when I approach you is to roast you, I'll smoke you AND whoever you standing close too and make every man in your crew deny that he knows you"
This is my fav verse in hip hop history !
🔥🔥🔥
@@h-bo123beast from the east
I love Math! He’s Genius. His Podcast format just keeps elevating.💪🏿💯
Love that bis showed love to Frazier. He's my favorite boxer of all time. First man to beat Ali and one of the best to do it but rarely gets his flowers.
Philly foul for having a Rocky statue (fiction) and Stallone is a New Yorker and no Smokin Joe or Bhop etc statue
@@SutekhDaSteemroller They do have a Frazier statue. It's just not where the museum steps are. I went to Philly a couple of years ago and made sure to visit the Frazier statue. It's right by their football arena. Also went to his gym which is now a furniture store. The owners were cool, they showed me where he used to hang the heavy bags and where the ring was placed. I think bhop was trying to turn it into a historical landmark so they can never tear it down but not sure if he succeeded.
@@SutekhDaSteemroller Stallone is not a New Yorker
@@MrWARBUCKS24 Where he from
Ready for this whole interview 🔥 🔥
2nd round KO 1 one of the most slept on disses of all timez...can't w8 for the full ep
"Aight, yo, we gonna battle for 25 years" hahahahaha... love Hip Hop, man. Great interview with the legend Canibus
I love the perspective MATH took in this clip as a battle rapper. And what was crazy was Canibus' perspective from the eyes of 19 year old. I can't wait to watch the ENTIRE interview. Well done!
I believe Canibus took LL. I doubt Canibus was that young. Him and Nas are closer in age. Canibus was over 21 when that 4,3,2,1 dropped.
@@BlackMusicGenre he just turned 50 this year. He was born in 1974. He was like 23 or 24 during that time. Nas is a lil bit older he was born in 1970 or 71 something like that.
Please release this episode ASAP. This is brilliant. Thank you
Yo Math is that dude…..the guest coming on and they stories are impeccable. Shalom to the team
Good look putting Canibus on the platform. Definitely deserves his flowers and dialogue.
Man!! Canibus!!! we love you outchea in Africa, Nigeria. me and my boys used to listen to your records and we reckoned with you as one of the best MCs to ever do it.
And we hated the fact that the industry had you blackballed. eh, mad love out here... God bless you.
South Africa loves him too... He's legendary..
This interview maaaan! 🇯🇲✨️🔥💯
Neva knew he was Jamaican 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🤘🏾🌍
I can listen to CANNIBUS all day. The way he breaks shit down to get the lamen's understanding is crazy.
"I didn't think we gonna battle for 25 years" what a way to end that note! lol
My man is seriously for real funny.. in a good down to earth why..." U didn't know we had to battle for 25yrs" lol
“I didn’t know we were gonna battle for 25 years.”😂😂😂😂. Canibus is a real dude salute to the God
Let the gods build!! This is one of the the realest interviews done math really talking that grown ishhhh
I was literally a kid rapping 2nd round KO word for word! I’ve been waiting for conversations like this!
Thanks!
Damnnn that was dope asf the ending was epic W for Math and Canibus 😅🙌 nice work
Canibus missed when Math essentially told him that it was a part of the game to be sized up by an older MC and that you would have to fight back, by basically saying LL had to do the same w Kool Mo Dee when he was younger (Mama Said Knock You Out).
Ll couldn’t mess with Kool Moe Dee…80s cool j was not lyrical enough and i think Moe Dee got em on How Ya Like Me Now!
@@PracticeOfRighteousness Moe Dee smoked LL with "Let's Go" and "Death Blow". LL lost that one too.
Bis is a real one for doing this. Thank you for having him on. Long live the goat.
Canibus verse on Lost Boyz "Beast from the East" is one of the greatest verses of all time.
All facts
Canibus
Is one of the few Mcs that give me chills everytime I listen to his music
Shit is crazy
Me too. I get hyped every time i listen to the channel zero track.
50 barz you won't forget this. He said it and he meant it.
YOOOOOO Math be getting Brothas to go deep (pause) with how they really really feel about a situation they were involved in. I have NEVER seen any other show evoke THIS much detail and energy out of people.
Starting to put it all together after Math made him think about being on the Def Jam Board next to DMX.... and having LL see that too through being at Def Jam.
That obviously opened eyes to how the industry felt and made the artists alert... like how Hoffa was alluding. But if you put more pieces together, you realize DMX crossed Canibus path and they were cool.... so you can put together that ... if the industry wanted to use Canibus as a bar to reach, as an upcoming artist. LL might have said "I'll just jump out the window and see what this shit is all about period" ... I'm speculating, but they may have asked DMX at one point to throw shots to draw attention and marketing.. and he was like nah I'm good. But one of those artists up there was like "I got pull to go see and if anything happens.... I got history and money backing me to make sure shits good"
I speculate this because I thought Canibus was gonna admit he jumped out the window at one point. But he still sticks to his side of just rolling with the punches. LL had always been the overly aggressive one to me for no reason. I bet that board and aspect of seeking Canibus out intrigued him. Could have been way nastier too... he could have known Canibus was new and floating around ... with a name big enough to compare Def Jam artists to... so he said "I can get points off just trying to bury this dude" It would be a cheap way to attack a fresh boogey man and secure a major battle rap W in the process.
Not gonna lie, Canibus is one of my favorites, I got all his CDs and signed copies of shit... but thats an enticing moment... to make a name trying to take him out, before he can even get a foothold. For an established artist... that would be an easy W and decades of bragging rights with the right marketing. And you already got his bio and roadmap right on your record labels wall to study and sabotage
In this clip Canibus also firstly shouted out Redman for putting him on a song with 50 bars. There was talk Canibus would sign with Wutang perhaps back in the day.... by putting Redman and Methodman on the same song that you requested... you are neutralizing his rivals all in one swoop. Meth And Red immediately have to play it off and stand in the cut while it plays out. They arent gonna fight back or say shit and now Canibus has no big underground names to run to or a crew to join for response or to team with. By default they are gonna let LL Cool J do what he wants and stand to the side. Wouldnt this same thing happen with Eminem and Canibus too? Canibus acted weird meeting him on video shoot... but then Eminem's love for LL made him say "100% fuck this dude" then Canibus accused him of helping LL and all types of shit. That would be a soft case of the same thing where LL's presence made Eminem and Canibus by default not get along. I think Wyclef did the same thing when shit hit the fan... he was like "you're on your own with LL cool J" By default it puts Canibus on his own island to fend for himself before his career even starts. It reminds me of NY when Biggie was looking for allies against PAC but all them dudes were hating on BIG anyway and hoping shit wouldnt work out for him. Then Pac tried to swoop in and make Death Row East with all the people who were left so Biggie couldnt grab any backup that was left over. And instead of "picking sides" the NY artists left pretended it was just about money and label, like they werent gonna get involved 😂 If 2pac and Biggie lived, Death Row East would have been extorted and they would have made those dudes diss Biggie or get shelved and drink piss.
Say no more!
Respect to Math how eloquently explained the situation from his perspective as battle rapper
2nd round knock KILLED LL. PERIOD
Nice try but that's cap
@@ALexander-ue3kj If you use the slang term "cap" you're not old enough to know.
Facts; just like Shyne's 50 Cent diss; " Look at the facts and not the hype....."
Nah respectfully disagree with this one!!!…That Ripper strikes back hit a bit harder🔥🤷🏻♂️…Salute to Bis though🫡🤝
Facts fam
This made me go back & listen to 2nd round knockout
"every warrior has an axe to bury/but he has to learn to discern from enemy and adversary"
Poet Laureate II 🔥
My favorite bar of his
Dope 2 see Canibus back outside....
Great look kings 🤴....
Great Questions aswell.. .
Might be uncomfortable canines but the world 🌎 would love 2 know some of these answers....
Fire again cast....
Glad to see Canibus one of the greatest raw lyricist in hip hop ever big up Jamaica genius mind
That closeout was classic/timeless/perfect lol... Amazing interview Math 👏👏👏...
2nd Round Knockout Top 5 Diss songs ever. No subs straight shots to the head this was a moment I am glad I saw happened as it was happening. Back then there was no internet blogs really to keep up with the talk it was straight Source Magazine, Rap Pages , Vibe Magazine to get more info. I had this song on cassette and I still have it
Canibus definitely provided a different leveled fingerprint when he touched the microphone. That raw lyrical intelligence.
Wow, I never made that Correlation between the 2nd rd ko vid to LL’s mama said knock you out vid. Damn I’m still learning.
What a great way to end this clip, busting out in laughter. Repping and battling for 25 years!
Much love to Canibus man, Thank ya'll for letting him clear the air with some of this weight he's been carrying for decades.
No judgement, just a conversation with him. When it comes to that battle, he won... But lost the war.
The sad part is that looking back, he was just a foot soldier that didn't even know what he was fighting for.
My younger self had that same energy Math spoke on, anybody could have got it. So happy I didn't blow up then.
Salute to 'Bis the living legend.
Salute Bis
The legend!!!
Explain how he's a "legend" since ppl love to throw that word around
Yes sir !!!!
Y'all bouta get a quick million views this episode
Canibus lyrically is a beast, he got bars from the 90’s that niggaz can’t even fuck with!
He was the type that made niggaz rewrite their lyrics
Yo respect to this platform for life🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Math just sent a slight shot at any up and coming battle rapper ... math still got bars
real talk my brother, loved every moment of it
It’s unfortunate that Canibus still carry that hurt from that battle cause he feel it’s the reason he didn’t become what he was suppose to
It was Going against LL at the time was career suicide
He actually bodied LL. LL response was garbage.
he is still salty
More like that trash album is the reason
@@JustMe-ws2pe nah Man U can be a Canibus fan and supporter and feel he won.. but to say LL diss was garbage U BIG CAP
😂😂😂😂 “i didn’t think that he meant: “aiiight yo we gon battle for 25 years”” 😂😂😂
Canibus is the GREATEST lyricist in rap history. It makes me so mad he never fully got the credit he deserves.
MAAAAATH the Growth fam . I love this podcast.... AUTHENTiC content.
Intellectual & Humble……. Canibus Legendary
He has a computer license
"Yo we gon' battle for 25 years" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Poet laureate 1,2 and infinity are masterpieces...iykyk
The bars on Poet Laureate sick AF!
@@amanialex8235 when they had that one site for infinity, I downloaded the beats and rhymes and I combined all of them into one song. It's about an hour long of straight bars
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This is the realest questions Math has ever asked lol. Dope. Can't wait to for the full interview.
Bis got blackballed by the industry & LL probably had something to do with that. But man, till this day Canibus had some of illest rhymes I've ever heard. And I also think Bis won that battle & made the bigger impact. He literally said what everyone was thinking about LL at the time.
One of the best to to do it Can-I-Bus!!
2 round knockout was 🔥 and still is. Definitely one of hip-hops greatest moments. Canibus won that battle.
Awwww maaaaan Math you the one... big salute for this bro 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿