Why Ducati Have Got The New 2021 Monster Right!
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ITS A MONSTER IF IT BURNS YOUR NUTS. ITS A DUCATI IF IT DOESN'T START
@@capngeo2002 or more like lie about their performance and reliability. lol try to keep up.
LOL, I’ve owned 4 Ducatis in the past 6 years and have had zero problems with any and they always start. But some of them do get hot, true.
@@r6mt09 You’ve never watched WSBK I guess. 🤣
@@capngeo2002 i bet you don't even have a bike. lol
@@ilmostro16 yea i do. thats why ducati or any euro trash bikes never win LMFAO
As a 2004 monster owner, and owning it since new, I might be tempted in updating.The thing I would say to all the nah sayers is, if ducati doesn’t move forward they will end up being the Italian version of Harley Davidson, and no one wants that.
Well they’ve dropped desmo valves and belts on the Multi V4 so thats a start.
Well said!
Hmm I’m not sure about that....
Not even remotely similar. Ducati has always been at the forefront of design and innovation. Ducati makes bikes like Diavel, Monster, Multistrada, Panigale, Scrambler... Harley only makes choppers.
@@ampm9771 read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote.
“Almost as sharp, as a scalpel”....this guy 😆
Even the '90s Monsters look beautiful, when seen even today out on the streets. I doubt this will be the case with the new Monster after a decade - and it's not just the frame.
People were complaining that they looked outdated in the ‘00s. However, my red/white S2R1000 was the most beautiful bike I ever owned, and the one that got the most compliments whenever it was ridden. Damn shame my local dealership Grenaded the engine, refused to fix it, and eventually the bike was sold off for parts.
"wow it's a new brutale " that was my first impression when i saw that video hahaha
That's a compliment.
SAME HAHA!!
OML SAME HAHAHA
Imagine my relief when I realized MV had not actually created this eyesore
@@Heavywall70 Except the new Monster is not an "eyesore"; not at all.
I'm so glad I bought the last good looking Monster (2020 1200s).
trellis frame NEEDS to come back.
It’s beautiful, technically advanced and don’t forget that the monster created the whole naked bike category from scratch
I love Monsters, but should politely remind you that "back in the day" nearly all bikes were naked.
@@pecheuranglais5469 fair point
The only thing I'd change, for it to be absolutely perfect, is the swingarm for the single sided one and the placement of the exhaust (one on either side like the old monster) other than that I think it looks amazing.
The vast majority of riders love their bike just by looking at it even when it’s standing still. Aesthetics is an integral part of owning a bike that as years passed has become classic. So yes, it may be a better bike but they could give it a pointed headlight and name it Streetfighter 900. Disrupting a cult family of bikes like the Monster was a wrong move.
I'm a fan of Ducati always thinking of us with a shorter stature.
They should have called it a baby Street fighter, and stuck with the Monster line.
MONSTER isn't only skin deep, but also what's inside. My ex is a Model, but trust me, pure MONSTER inside.
LMAOOO
I really like it. I think Ducati had to move forward with the Monster. This is a bike that would tempt me to move away from my more retro Scrambler.
@Ben Daulton huh?
This guy really knows how to get straight to the point, I knew nothing of the monster bikes and now I know what the hubub is about the new version. And he only took 8 minutes to hit all the detail nice job
For me is like an evolution of a Yamaha MT designed by Ducati. A real MT-onster.
Looks awesome & the weight/power screams fun to ride on one wheel or two. Can’t wait to see one in the flesh.
Good Vid ! the older entry level Monster 797 I believe , in my eyes was starting to look drab ( be interesting to see the monster sales figures ) and yes your right the monster needs to change however this bike looks a little bit of a mix , MV seem to have a good looking package but the prices are premium . Will be interesting to see how many new monsters are seen at bike meets in the future , keep up the good work Motobob enjoy your new 660!
Don’t like the look; looks like a Japanese MV, now ... but they had to lighten it ... Doesn’t interest me, tho’
Dude you sounded right there I have a 821 and you are for sure a “Motointellect” I’m gonna subscribe to you not only because I’m a motorcycle designer but really awesome content there bruh!!!
I own a Monster 2020, the last batch of 25 years of development...gonna keep it because I love how it rides and looks. The new monster is totally different but it also looks great and fresh, I’m gonna buy it too next year and enjoy the best of two worlds!
I dig it. That frame was iconic but...can’t be there forever !
I have a 2020 Diavel 1260 S. But I want to get one of these too. I like the new design. Although at 6'1" 215lbs, not sure if I'm too big for it.
When KTM 890 and MV Agusta brutale mate😂
I’m thinking more of the MV Agusta Dragster mate
@@willfischer4767 yes i meant the brutale dragster too
@@midhungopan9270 They all sound incredible so who cares
@Ben Daulton what's wrong with riding all the time? Its way better than looking at a bike all the time , bikes were meant to be ridden, not looked at?
@@Antimortem lol, they why different colors ?
ill prefer the 821, i think is muscular, monsters dont need makeup
Same. They could have added a faux frame( made of very light weight pipes) on either side just for the aesthetics.
The monster has always been about the trellis frame design
@@yournemesis2454 if they’re going to put a fake trellis frame on it, I’d prefer they made it look like a dinosaur... like a T. rex doing 80 down the highway.
I get excited every time motobob post a new video of a new bike. Been waiting for him to review the new Ducati Monster and now it’s here!
I think absence of a single sided swingarm makes a huge difference
not all monsters have single sided swingarm anyway - mine doesnt.
@@DucatiNYCVloggyVlogs no what I meant was if 950 hypermotard got one, y not this?
Love the headlight.
Congratulations Ducati! You made a 2004 Buell.
Hardly. Not until they put the fuel in the frame, lol.
Tait Jones It's a Buell also... ok, so a Buell, Brutale, MT... other?
How many bikes did Buell sell last year?
Oh.... Right...
@@SquireSCA
You’re illustrating the whole point.
@@Heavywall70 Ducati sales are up. Hell, for 2017, they were the top selling superbike, in the world. They had 25% of that market, globally. 1 out of every 4 superbikes sold, was a Panigale. In that segment, they outsold all of the Japanese brands...
Buell... not so much...
I love the new look ,the 821 was just too heavy which made my decision easy to buy the Street triple R instead but I'm gonna seriously consider the new monster when I change next year.
Maybe you’ll find them that Ducati is charging you more than Triumph for cheaper components. The Monster‘s is equipped like a bread and butter Streety but costs RS money. I’m a complete Ducati head, but I’m really looking forward to the new Speed Triple because Triumph is evolving their strength while Bologna/Ingolstadt are badge engineering the hell out of their model ranges.
Maybe you should try lifting some weights if you think the 821 was heavy.
@@centralregionriders4069 I'm a powerlifter smartarse.
Great bike and it will continue to set a standard in its class. Cheers!
Fantastic in every aspect, they should have done it long time ago. I had three monsters in the past, this one is amazing, lets hope it delivers the goods as good as it looks. Bravo Ducati, if this bike is as good as they say, I will buy it.
At least the hyper 950 still has the trellis. Heck they added even more trellis since the hyper 939! 👌🏻
Great Review! Love the new Monster -looks better than the old one, but more intrigued to ride the KTM 890R!
im willing to bet that 99,9% of the negative comments about the trellis frame come from people that dont have a monster because it wasnt a great bike vs the competition. If you want a red trellis frame so bad get a red one painted on :)
it looks cheap for sure.
Lmao 🙄
It's basically a honda cb1000 with Ducati written on it...
You haven’t even seen it on the flesh
Love the specs, not feeling the look, but likely a good decision by Ducati. However, Ducati's decision will likely affect my decision in considering a new Monster.
Yep, same here I probably wait for a new Ducati neo classic model that's not a scrambler or buying a thruxton or nine t...
@@G1lgamesj You'll be disappointed in the NineT; it's beautiful, probably the best looking bike I've owned; and it's "'perfect" in so many ways...that it doesn't have any soul, nothing to punch you in the gut and make you feel like you've got a wild one between your legs. I've also owned a Thruxton (900cc) and enjoyed it's light, nimble feel. The 1200 cc version has a little more torque that makes it fun. I had a 2018 Hyper and loved that bike; great visceral feel and performed well on long distance rides in "Touring" mode. I will likely buy another or find a used Monster 1220S.
@@kenloyd Damn... It's the thing that worried me the most with the nineT, beside of looking like the perfect bike, the engine sound is not all that great when you have driven a desmo before and spec wise It looks like a boring engine but like you say mechanical perfect in everyway. I went to see for a Thruxton R, the sound is very good, probably drives good aswell but the exterior design is so basic I find it boring, plain painting design (black or gray) and I don't like the big metal strap holder around the fueltank, also the lack of a mono arm. But It's probably the most true design to a retro cafe racer, except for the watercooler. And the scrambler series feels like a downgrade, maybe fun as entry bike or when I am 60 years old...
Guess I have to wait for the next Ducati sport classic or alternatives sigh...
Great video and some nice technical advices on the new Monster. But.... think I come into the die hard old school style of Ducati owner, because I love the look of the trellis frame and definitely will not be trading in my gorgeous 812 Stripe for one of these. But, each to their own, and maybe I'll come around to liking it in a couple of years.
Is it crazy that I wanted the Aluminium monocoque chassis painted in red as an homage to the monster trellis of yesteryear
That would have been so much better, red frames are awesome.
A year on and I’ve not seen a single one. I think that says it all! It’s really going to be interesting to see which direction they go to next.
Good point :)
Headlight is very modern and distinctive imo. Bike looks good and refreshed but still looks monstery.
I love it. Put down a deposit for my very own 2 days ago. Style is important to me too, and I love a trellis frame on a bike as much as anyone. But even without it, this Monster is still the best looking bike in it's class.
Looks great but if you live somewhere hot witth dense traffic i’d check that the engine heat is bearable. On other models like my scrambler full throttle and the hyper motards are like sitting on a pizza oven.
I ordered one yesterday so obviously I think it looks great. Going to sell my 2015 monster 821 stripe privately. Delivery expected in July.
YES thank you!! People are so uptight about the ditched trellis frame. Yes it was beautiful but technology moves on. I've never heard of a 40 lbs weight loss across a single generation, let alone for an already pretty light bike. It no doubt has a gigantic impact on the dynamics. I absolutely love the new Monster, can't wait to see it in the flesh.
A lot of the weight reduction came from a lighter engine, wheels and alloy front section which could still be used with a lightened trellis frame.
Beautiful in design and engineering! Cross pollination of the races brings about wonderful developments so, if it looks more Japanese than Italian, that's not necessarily a negative. I have and have had some of the fastest and most powerful superbikes but retain an 701 SuperMoto because of power to weight ratio. I applaud Ducati for a design that sheds the weight and find this new look very attractive.
Looks good to me and they offer solutions for short people like me lol...I'll be going to sit on one for sure.
Thank you for mature analysis and opinion regarding design change. In general I don't like Ducati much, however I appreciate bold decision they made.
What's bold about that? It just makes it blend it even more in the production, looks like any other bike now and the character is also slowly disappearing.
@@the_hippykiller22 15kg of weight has significant impact on acceleration. Even if one has bike just for posing, soon he will be frustrated that friends are faster on lights. Someone at Ducati had to make difficult decision. It doesn't need to be completely right, however they can adjust next years. Without this step, new/young people would go elsewhere... That's it.
Looks very nice. Sleek. Got to move with the times. Got to be open to change and progression or you just get left behind.. I am quite sure it will be a proper Ducati... Will be temperamental, expensive for parts, expensive to service, will break down, but at least it looks good.
Still maintains the naked-ness, muscular look and focus on performance. And Round headlights too.
It’s definitely different but still beautiful! Plus I’m sure the Duc Giant knows what they’re doin 🤓👍🏼
I just might be able to get a Ducati now that there is a model with a lower seat height!
Ah buddy, I can't bring myself to agree with you (though can't dispute any of the points you made) - I got into riding because I saw a Ducati Monster once when I was younger, it had a red frame and twin exhausts, I could see the engine and it made a racket that made me grin ear to ear. I bough my first Monster 2 years after getting my license but was surprised at how smooth the 796 was, the 821 seemed smoother still - it didn't have the 'rough and ready' character that I imagined it would. I feel like by chasing efficiencies they may be losing character - its the reason why as impressive as the Japanese roadsters are, I'm not drawn to them. It's the reason I didn't fall in love with the parallel twin in the 790 duke - I want my Monsters to be monstrous!
Very neat and intelligent design .This is the way forward for the monster. The only thing I wouldn't change would be the fuel tank and kept the wheelbase unchanged. Then again, they have to cater to the new riders. Still, I think this Monster is how a modern monster should be. Top quality components from A-Z that you get only from Ducati.
I have loved the style of the Ducati Monster ever since I got into motorcycles. The Trellis really was eye-catching and distinctive. But the lightness and Panigale-ness of the front-frame is pretty awesome too.
And now looking at the 20/21 Monsters next to each other, the Trellis does look a little dated.
I recently bought a 2019 821 in red (new). I wanted the 937, but I would need the lowering kit. And besides, my dealer is still waiting on more bikes? So the 821 is good for now. The 937 saved 40 lbs with the re-design, that's a lot!.But I agree with you; the 937 is the better bike!
It looks pretty good to me. Apart from the headlight , does look very MT-09 ish. I prefer the new Monster's headlight to the MT-09s one.
Maybe Ducati should have given it a different name, and just kept making a Euro 5 Monster for those who want the trellis frame. Triumph still make the quite heavy T120 for those who like that kind of thing !
It's a good looking motorcycle and you make a strong argument for why the trellis frame has been ditched. It always takes time for customers to except and embrace design changes to a beloved model.
Love my 2016 1200s this doesn't make me want to change.
Awesome review Bob! Thank you. I don’t think I could’ve summed it up any better! I want one and I’ve had a couple of the past versions... 👍😎🇦🇺
One thing you failed to mention was the non adjustable suspension. Well the rear has preload I believe, but that's it. This could be it's weakness against the likes of the Duke 890 and 765rs. We will have to wait and see. But it is cheaper than the 890r so that will be a factor. Next year is looking brill for this category with this bike and the new MT09 spicing things up.
They should’ve just made it a small capacity Street fighter and left the monster range going on the way it was.
Hope it works out for ducati.
Anyone else remember when they tried to fuck with the 916/918 shape? They introduced the 999 and quickly back peddled to the old shape via the 1098🤔
Looks more in touch with the time... however the Desmo services must be a factor when buying. The KTM will be much cheaper to own on the long run. Ducati must not only address the style but also look at ownership cost over a period of time compared to their rivals ( and I am a Ducati fan with a new SF V4 S in the garage....).
I WANT ONE! GORGEOUS! But. between the new Street Triple RS and this...I just don't know. Life is so hard sometimes!
I'm in the exact same situation!
@@jeffmattoxjr.4136 I have test driven the current Monster and the 2020 street triple RS , the Triumph is more fun to drive. If you can, test them out first !
I've come down on the side of the Speed Triple... bit more pricey, but approx 38 more HP and adjustable suspension... and NO desmo service...
Buy the Speed Triple, this so-called monster is horrible!!!
Let’s face it, time moves on, technology changes, I sat on it, but did not ride it. It immediately felt right and comfortable. Doesn’t hurt VW $$ is behind Ducati, can only help. For a fun, it’s an attainable Duc, I’ll have at it. I expect to be on one this coming year. Thank you Ducati, and great review ! JMO
Had a 696 and 821, this new monster is dope and i feel like it's a great step forward into the new decade of motorcycles. Everyone complaining about the trellis frame is just stuck on nostalgia. Technology improves and so they find their way into modern machines. I give it to ducati bold move and keeps them from making HD mistake of not being able to break away from their past
If you want technology you wouldn’t get a Monster. You’d get something from Japan. It will objectively be cheaper and better. But it would look like a Japanese bike. As does this bike.
Which begs the question: why not get a better bike if you already like the styling?
@@bborud as much as sounds go, monster has em beat, looks as well the headlights are huge turnoffs with the mt and z900
LOL, how many HD-related comments here. Bots?
and yes, it will be Monster S (or R). with Öhlins and all those bells and whistles :)
I have an 02 Ducati monster 750 S.I.e. She’s a lot of fun to ride but costly with repairs, even when done myself.
Test rode this model couple of months back, some small windy roads and a stretch of freeway. I live in the tropics and it's hot and humid all year round. Power, yes, quite enough for me. Maneuverability, check. Fun, definitely. Looks... er, well... trellis aside, there's not much of a design identity that shouts out really positively at this point. Engine heat, most definitely, right side inner thigh, especially noticeable at a stop. Not that it'll fry anything, but it's hot even when the engine temp gauge reads just 90⁰C. My Yammie goes up to 105⁰C at stops, but I don't feel this kinda heat that the Monster emits, perhaps due to the engine placement. Anyways, it's good information on the reason Ducati headed this direction for the new model, may take a second look at it sometime.
It’s great! As regards the styling, without the “Trellis” it still has the style, as with a lot of manufacturers, “If you don’t progress you finish up standing still”. This new Monster 👍👍👍
was going to get a v2 streetfighter, but monster sp is the one now
The previous version just had so much character! this one on the other hand in my opinion doesn't have the monster character, it would be better if they renamed it to Streetfighter V2
Exactly... this is the streetfighter V2
everybody is getting lost in the nostalgia of past designs instead of embracing and appreciating the new and bold models in the bike and car world.
Great review and opinion. I love it and it will sell like pancakes. I loved the previous one as well but sticking to outdated technologies because of nostalgia is a bad way to go. Look where Harley Davidson is because of stubbornly sticking to pushrods and air cooling. Reviewers are riding the new monster now and they all love it. I even think that in the future (say a decade or two) they will develop stronger and lighter materials and they'll be able to carve out sections of the new swingarm and subframe that will aesthetically reminisce of the "old trellis look" and those will sell at twice the speed of pancakes.
damn the headlight looks very unique and new
I would love to see an R version with 140-150 hp, Öhlins suspension and better Brembo brakes!!!
Hi
Does it run hot?
Is it big enough for someone over 6 foot?
Best naked 700/900cc bike.
Monster v street triple?
It looks fantastic.
So people are only complaining about the looks. All they had to do was paint the aluminium frame red to mimic the look of the red trellis frame. A little bit of red to make it pop and enough people would be satisfied
Is the new motor (hypermotard) as reliable as the older air cooled ones?
looks great, function over appearance? yes for me
I liked it so much I called my Yamaha dealer and told them I didn’t want my MT-07 anymore and I managed to get all my money back. I think it blows them out of the water... maybe not in price but but on pretty much every other comparison! 😍😍😍
2:24 Both more stable AND more manoeuvrable? Great trick!
I agree that it follows the original ethos of the Monster, and so in spirit is consistent with Monster moniker. But it just doesn't stand out like the old trellis frame Monster. And I feel like that visual impact is what made the Monster special. It was instantly recognizable. That's why I bought two over the years. Not because I wanted an Italian superbike on a diet/budget.
A Ducati fan saying they don’t like change is like an ice cream fan saying they don’t like these new flavors. Ducati is cutting edge. Without cutting edge Ducati ceases to exist.
I like the look and the change is for the better. Its looks more like a MV Brutale. Maybe not a monster anymore but a Very good looking bike. I want one a 1200 😁
I love it, will probably actually buy this
I like it......I really do. I’ve had two Monsters, the 696 and 821, this will probably be my third one. Ducati needs to evolve the Monster. I loved the trellis frame but this new look appeases me as well. It still looks beefy and it’s undeniably an Italian bike.
With retro being all the rage these days, would it better for them to make the streetfighter range the modern naked performance range, and the monster the retro naked range?
I like this look much better and less of an eye sore
Definitely correct 'Bob'. Excellent video......nice to see a contributor who 'adds' something, instead of just replaying the Ducati promo footage. Trellis frames are for roses to grow on and the 'love the ancient mafia' would have us all riding in horses and carts - guys - look what happened to Harley with their antiquated styling and think (!). The first Ducati (seeing as I am not limber enough to ride something like a Panigale) to tempt me away from Honda - that's saying something - and is bound to win over newer riders. We need to encourage new riders not subject them to a museum trip!
I love the overall aesthetic and design.. looks brilliant. Great job by Ducati.
The new Triumph trident ( even though a wee small bike) VS the New Ducati monster... what is your say ? Both look great .. the Trident sounds great with its in line 3 motor.
Both slim little bikes now. But it depends if you want 30 more hp and cornering sensitive ABS etc for the 3k price difference
@@motobob which would be a more practical option with the best bottom line torque .
I live up in the Himalayas and at the moment ride a ninja 1000 SX ( i used to own a street trip before). I seriously miss the small, light and easy to use day to day character of the triple. Would you recom the New Ducati monster would be similar to handle. Thank you for your valuable help 🙏
If priced right this could definitely be a tough competition for the KTM 890 duke.
Agree with all the positive points, but the trellis frame was really cool.
I miss the look of the trellis frame but the huge weight savings made more than make up for it the new bike should be a much better ride and is still a beautiful machine. I would like to see a yellow option too as it may tempt me away from the red
Loved the trellis frame but progress is KING!
I'm just wondering if they finally made the steering lock any wider than old monsters used to have.
Yes they have
It's not a Monster anymore. It's a Hipster. They've killed the Monster.
How long before the 1200s will arrive? Or will it be a 1300s ?
I agree, perhaps when carbon fibre is cheap enough they might bring it back in a lighter form...