भारतीय इतिहास को विज्ञान की सभी शाखाओं द्वारा प्रमाणित कर सरल भाषा में समझाने के लिए हार्दिक साधुवाद 🙏आपने शत प्रतिशत सत्य कहा है कि वैश्विक संदर्भों से जोड़ कर ईसवी कैलेंडर की अवैज्ञानिकता को सिद्ध कर ही विश्व इस कालगणना के थोपे गए औपनिवेशिक भ्रमजाल से बाहर निकल पाऐंगे। कृतज्ञतापूर्ण धन्यवाद।
कृपया श्री नीलेश ओक एवं श्री वेदवीर आर्य जी के मध्य संवाद स्थापित करने में भूमिका निभायें एवं भारतीय इतिहास के सही कालक्रम को निर्धारित करने के साथ स्पष्ट इतिहास को प्रकट करें जिससे भारत माता के वैभव को पुनः स्थापित किया जा सके। धन्यवाद।
Sir, I have no WORDS to comments on your Analysis. Totally I am speechless. I salute to your great RESEARCH. This research and knowledge should know each and every Indian.
श्री वेदवीर जी का अंग्रेजी वक्तव्य को हिंदी में प्रसारित करने हेतु आभार । इसमेें नवीनता लाकर स्तुत्य कार्य किया गया है । भारतीय कालक्रम के निर्धारण के लिए महत्त्वपूर्ण कार्य।
What a refreshing talk !! I hope to hear from Verveer arya ji more in the future ! I have already bought his book and hope to read more details there. Bahut bahut dhanywaad Vedveer ji !!
बहुत ही जानकारी भरपूर विडीओ।कितना खेला गया गई हमारी हिस्ट्री से!कितनी नफ़रत करते थे विदेशी की हमारे ज्ञान को झूठ ही बता दिया। लेकिन सच तो सच ही रहेगा, हमको गर्व है हमारे इतिहास सभ्यता संस्कृति पे
Please upload more and more videos in hindi, it is very helpful for those who can't understand english, because most of the viewers of this channel is hindi speaking people. My humble request to this indic society
Your Research and Analysis are beyond comments & criticisms. Incredible research you have done. Whole world will accept one day the worth of Indian Civilization. And the truth of this developed civilization. I have no words to comment or write. Salute to you, sir !!💐💐🇮🇳🎯✌
bhaai saahab kamaal hai. Finally you gave the answer. We even have to change Western Chronology too. Without changing that world won't accept that. Please provide English subtitles to this. So, that other people and Scholars can listen to this.
I have heard numerous Vedic preachers and leaned people but Respected Vedveer ARYA saheb is the most learned. I have gained lot of knowledge from his lecture. Thanks a lot Sir.
First of all,I genuinely appreciate efforts being put by you and your team to explicitly come up to conclusions that would justify the Bharat as nuclei of it's own culture,dharam and it's geographical boundaries based on logical and scientific standards. First of all, I presume that our objective is to prove that our dharam & nation is created and protected by Bhrama-Vishnu-Mahesh and secondly,that we are originally from our country Bharat for 1000s of years and no invasion/migration of any group of people including Aryans took place ever during those mentioned previous thousands of years. I observe,that we are taking a linear approach starting from god Brahma-Vishnu-Mahesh,then his 06 brahmarishis sons,manu,then finally us as humans like a tree moving from upwards towards downwards. While following this linear approach heading downwards ,we come across points in time,where either our understated history including Ramayana & Mahabharata are available in fragments or there are times when two or more fragments are overlapping with each other. Due to this,the present day superior nations won't let us to produce and justify for our existence in Bharat for thousands of years and must be in denial mode for the reason that they don't want our nation to change it's attitude from slavery like mentality pounded on us by these foreign countries. So, as per above mentioned objectives above, we should go for cyclical approach instead,the supporting logic and facts of which are more easy to execute,is more viable and is more synchronized to address and resolve our history with it's existence including our nation's dharam existence being practiced by us for thousands of years and is described as below. My viewpoint in your aspect of looking into our country Bharat as the nucleus of its own dharam, culture and genes expansion outside Bharat and not the other way round ie. some hypothetical group of humans including aryan came to India in the name of conquer/migration or else. You and other scholars with that viewpoint on technical grounds have made it in the right direction. My input in it is that,a nation's integrity will survive and flourish only when that nation's dharam is created and established by the god of that nation and for that humans should have connect of any medium with our gods. In case of India/Bharat existence,gods are Bhrama-Vishnu-Mahesh. So,taking dharam and Bharat nation as two extremes points of a circle,then, in order to complete that circle/chakra,firstly,for 1st half of circle,assessments/discoveries/findings done by Indian concerned authorities and spread by you scholars ranging from Brahma,06 brahmrishis,manu,humans,Amavasu dynasty,Ramayana,Mahabharata,Rig ved,other veds,Upanishads,puraans upto our today's nation Bharat/India properly based on given records discovered. This is only the one half part of that dharam-nation circle,where gods are there,who take birth as avatars ie. Dashavtaars on earth as humans and leaves their body at the end by leaving with us veds,cultural heritage,teachings, life lessons and all. Then going further to complete the cycle while taking cyclical approach instead of current linear approach,the 2nd half of that circle has not been attended ideally ie. there has to be a human being who connect and reach out to god and god bestows that human(not avataar) with things which are recognized till now in our today's national culture of India/Bharat and even at International level. So, the 2nd half of the circle is completed by Vishvamitra/Kaushik,as out of 07 saptarishis/Brahmarishis,six being sons of god Brahma were Brahmarishi by birth,which could again only be a story,but when Vishvamitra comes into picture,where Vishwamitra/Kaushik is the only human being,who was originally a shatriya king of Amavasu dynasty in our humans and was given recognition of Saptarishi/Brahmarishi by god Brahma himself, thereby,Saptarishis gets linked with Brahma-Vishnu-Mahesh and existence of Manu who led to human beings is also justified. Then,Vishwamitra/Kaushik also appeared in Ramayana. Also,Bharat king,the descendants of pandavs/kauravas was son of dushyant king and mother Shakuntala, where Shakuntala was the daughter of Kaushik/Vishwamitra,so Mahabharata truthfulness is also correctly justified by taking Vishvamitra's daughter Shakuntala into account. So,Brahma-Vishnu-Mahesh,Saptarishis,Manu,Amavasu dynasty,Ramayana & Mahabharata are as true as we are alive today in our country named Bharat,as Vishwamitra/Kaushik joins & binds them together with full authenticity in any given point of our nation Bharat. So, Vishvamitra completes the 2nd half of that circle/chakra of dharam by Brahma-Vishnu-Mahesh & it's nation Bharat/India,where even at International level,Gayatri mantra has it's effective presence and Gayatri mantra was created by Vishvamitra himself during his tapasya apart from his mandala 3.So,Gayatri mantra is accepted at international level and so it's creater Vishvamitra. Also,there is another proof to dismiss the arya invasion/immigration/visitors theory,in a way that if a group of people comes from outside foreign country,then their main objectives are to increase their land,population and their own dharam,gods. Kindly,correct me if it gets wrong that,there is no other country in world,who claim to have conquered India/Bharat through Aryans or else and has Bhrama-Vishnu-Mahesh gods from their country and they after conquering Bharat spread their gods Bhrama-Vishnu-Mahesh with culture into Bharat/India. So,their is no other such country in world,whose existence was there thousands years ago, who claims to have conquered Bharat/India in that phase of thousands years ago and that such country as their dharam was following their gods Bhrama-Vishnu-Mahesh then till today in their country in its majority population like in Bharat,where mostly everyone worships Brahma-Vishnu-Mahesh. Secondly,if they(so called capable Aryans)migrated to Bharat/India came from a country that was superior to Bharat that time,then who would be that group of able people,who would leave their settled country with superiority and migrate to a nation inferior to it. It is like shifting from USA to some poorer country,which doesn't happen. So again,aryan migration hypothesis again collapses. Moreover,if they were visitors,then visitors are meant to leave sooner than later. So Aryan visitors hypothesis gets again rejected. Ultimately,Bharat/India with its gods Bhrama-Vishnu-Mahesh are originally nuclei of our country's cultural,veds,puraans,Upanishads,Sanskrit,Hindi,Tamil,Telugu,Kannada,and other state languages of Bharat/India origin by completing the circle of dharam-nation/Bharat by taking Vishvamitra as only human being who reached out to Saptarishis and recognized by our Bharat/India country's god Bhrama himself. I hope this cyclical approach would help you in journey of proving Bharat's existence since thousands of years.
आपके मौलिक अध्ययन को शत्-शत् नमन। हजारों वर्ष पहले भारतीय लोग 1000 वर्ष तक आसमान का रिकॉर्ड रखते रहे ! आपने ब्रह्मा जी को मनुष्य बताने का साहस किया। 1 युग को हजार वर्ष से लाखों वर्ष तक का क्यों कह दिया जाता है यह भी समझ में आया। बहुत सी अद्भुत बातें बताई आपने। 🙏🙏🙏 जय जय श्री राम
एक सुझाव है कि आप सभी अन्य विशिष्ट ज्योतिर्विदों को भी बुला कर एक भारतीय और फिर अन्तर्राष्ट्रीय संगोष्ठी का आयोजन कीजिए! पूरे विश्व को सच्चे ऐतिहासिक कालक्रम की जानकारी मिले। और, सब की भूलें सुधारी जा सकें! 🙏🙏🙏
आदरणीय वेदवीर जी को सादर नमस्ते,मै आप के गियान,एवं जानकारियों का मन से सत कार करता हूं, काल की गणना के विषय में, तीन ग्रन्थ भी सहायक है,( १) मनु स्मृति(२)वेद भाष्य स्वामी दयान्द जी लिखित(,३)१८९५, में लखित ग्रन्थ लेखक,लेखराज आर्य मुसाफिर आर्य समाज,अन्य, पी ऐन ओक जी इतिहासकार,की पुस्तकों में काफी जानकारी प्राप्त होती है,शुभ चिंतक जी बिहार,धन्यवाद,
आपके इस अद्वितीय अनुसंधान के लिए हार्दिक आभार व शुभकामनाएँ! एक प्रश्न! शक व कुषाण संवत् को सोलह हजार बी सी शायद आप ने भूल से कह दिया है न? यह सौ कहना था न? 🙏🙏🙏
Very nice talk show. Great service by you..To clarify the doubts. Can you plz make a video explaining names of month Yug equinox and other complex words which you used to mention time
Naman Shri Vedveer ji, Can you make short videos to explain time for children. I want to explain this whole time concept since the formation of this world as mentioned in Upnishad till today to teenagers and younger kids.. You have done really great research in this field already.
@@Itihasa_bharat Dhanywaad. Plz keep in mind the intellect level of young ones...So that they can relate themselves. Since I teach Sanskrit to age group 5 till 8 ...I should be able to easily explain them. Then I also need to explain to age group 9 and above
@@gautamastro for Indian history chronology research i recommend you to watch. 1. Nilesh oak 2. Raj Vedam 3. Mrugendra vinod 4. Vedveer Arya Their videos are available on sangam talks
Excellent analysis and information, sir. But during the presentation you have at many places said the periods in thousands whereas it should be in hundreds. Although I could understand that it was a slip of tongue.
Vedveer Arya ji, I think by brute force I could make "chadra katoch" is sandraccatos. Did some background on this name, these surname is used by chandravanshi who were ruling land between Ravi, Chenab and Sutlej, this also known as hydapas
Wonderfully explained the flawed sytem of our history,, .. In this lecture I think there is a slip of tonugue while telling dates related to Budh, (you said 11thousands but its hundred )
Mr. Nilesh Oak ji asserts about the formation of Rig-Veda 21000 years ago. And he to talks about the astronomical evidences. Please resolve this conflict. This is important.
नमस्ते भाईयो आप चैनल के माध्यम से ज्ञान अर्जित कर के उसको मात्र अपने पास न रखे। उसे अपने परिचितों मे इसके बारे मे चर्चा अवश्य करे क्योंकि सब लोग यूट्यूब नही देखते ।
@@NileshOak Truth need to be based on facts. Now your dating for the Mahabharata maybe correct but we need to verified it based on the puranas and genealogy king list. Otherwise we'll have a gap of 2000 years missing history if we use your dating of the epics. Vedveer Arya has shown the list of kings and date of the epics to coincide. Now of course Vedveer Arya as made a mistake of assuming that the Mahabharata was three layered of which Vyas wrote a 8000 sloka part .... which you have correctly pointed out is false.... but please if the puranas and the Mahabharata don't coincide then all your work is futile.
@@raghavarvoltore6517 If you consider it futile, then it is, at least for you. Thanks for viewing my videos and reading my works. Charaiveti. Charaiveti. Charaiveti. Bhagavad Gita 18:32 अधर्मं धर्ममिति या मन्यते तमसावृता | सर्वार्थान्विपरीतांश्च बुद्धिः सा पार्थ तामसी ||
Sir All the span or unit of time, Yuga , kal , and others are absolutely based on mathematical modelling , spherical trigonometry Indians knew at time based purely on earth movement . Eg 1. Self rotation 2. Rotation around the sen 3. Precession 4. Tilt All the time format and calenders , panjikas , sidhanto are mathematical interpolation and projection on that mathematical model. Indians were that much superb at the time 9000 BCE DOING HIGHEST LEVEL OF MATHEMATICAL APPLICATION SITTING UNDER A TREE .
Good talk, but it would be even more helpful if you could list some sources of your information, especially regarding the evidence related to agriculture in the sub-continent.
Multi displinary study 🙏🙏🙏🙏sanskrit, astronomi, different different calendars have to do too much work. 🙏🙏🙏 Thks bharat ke Rahul aaryaji time ke bare me bhi batate hai. Aur Maharashtra me ek couple hai ( paranjpe Or puranik) jinhone vedonka shlok to shlok adhyan kiya hai. 👍🙏🙏
Wa kya bat hai aaj mujhe pahli bar sahi history our time period ka pata chala Agar a sahi hai to ? Kya aapko malum hai jo Ram Mandir ka Case chal raha hai usme जज sahab ne pucha tha Kya Mandir ke bare me kisi jotish me kuch likha hai kya Is par aapka jawab जजsahab ko de dena chahiye 👍👍👍 Lekin mera sawal hai kya mourya shashan Ramayan our Mahabharat se pehle tha ? A to alag hi jankari samne aarahi hai dhanyawaad
Don't ask here because you will get loaded lies by this Socialist right winger . I'll recommend you just read your granthas www.vedrishi.com pe milenge .
Please do not refer our history with reference to CE. But just say that so many thousand years from now. Very good lecture must have taken years of study. Thanks for enlightenment.
२२.१ से २४.५ के झुकाव की जो ४२००० वर्ष की गति है उसका ध्रुवतारा बदलने की २६००० वर्ष की गति से सम्बद्ध है कि नहीँ। झुकाव बदलने पर क्या ध्रुवमण्डल भी फैलता सिकुड़ता है।।
Aap hi bataye vashishth aur vishcamitr 13500 bc me the aur raam 5500 . Ham jante hain ki vashosth aut vishvmitr treta yug me the. To aap ise kaise suljhayenge.
Good lecture but there is contradiction of Ramayan and Mahabharata dating. Nilesh Nilkanth oak's book says that ramayan happend before 12000 year and Mahabharata around 6000 year. He has also used astro archeological methodology. But anyhow we are thinking about it.... This is a good thing.
I feel TH-cam pe right wing ya pro Indian content ke against ek bohot badi conspiracy hai. Itne interesting content ke views hamesha kam kyu rehte hai ?
Bilkul shi... TH-cam khud totally leftist ideology follow krta h or hm hinduo me bhi last 4 to 5 generation ka missing link h .... Asliyat me most of the hidnus aadhyatmik rup se bhog gareeb h
Brilliant talk. But @13:13 the speaker says आगन्तास्मि is not a valid word. But it is a valid word in today's Sanskrit also. It is the लुट् लकार form, another form of future tense.
ved veer sir can u challange nilesh nilkanth oak on dating dating of ramayan mahabharat, surya sidhanata and vedas. ur explanation does not seems to be scientific and accurate
Nilesh Oak is giving fake timeline, remember as per scietific data also ... sea levels rose i 8500BCE - 7000 BCE makig SRILANKA a island...so how can ramayana be before that ... Nilesh Oak is not replying to questions asked.
@@ravikumarpillay8419 oh, never had this experience on getting no reply. I have read all books of Nileshji and attended conference and lectures delivered by him. To me he seemed to be most logical among vedveer arya, mrugendraji and other indologist. But may be your statement has some meaning.
@@saiecorp5646 Depends whether evidence is prime or logic and sleek marketing is what u rely on ... ur choice. does not make diff really for satyameva jayate
Tou aapka kehna hai ke VED Brahma ji ke mukh se nahin niklay hue hain balkay baad main Rishion ne likhay hain or uskay baad bhee inmain bahut kuch jorra-ghtaiya or sudhaar kiya jata raha hai ??
haa. ved rishiyon dwra likhi gayi hain. aur alag alag time frame me compose ki gayi hain. oldest mandala of rigved goes back to 200BC and newest mandala to 6000bce . see nilesh oak research for accurate dating of mahanharat and ramayan
@51:20 The time period of Buddha arrived at around 11000 BC may be interpreted as First incarnation of Vishnu which was Matsya Avatar. And around 11000BC world has seen the great flood which I'm relating with the Matsya Avatar of Shri Visnu.
Mrigashira isn't Prajapati, it is Soma. Prajapati is lord of Rohini. And you just changed Autumn Equinox year calculations to Winter Solstice year calculations without any reference.
Autumnal Equinox to reckon the new Samvatsara but the list of Nakshatras was prepared considering the nakshatra at Winter solstice. Winter solstice was at Mrigashira around 11200 BCE, at Rohini around 10200 BCE and at Krittika around 9200 BCE. Samvatsara of 5-year Yuga calendar commenced from Magha sukla pratipada reckoning from Sharad season.
भारतीय इतिहास को विज्ञान की सभी शाखाओं द्वारा प्रमाणित कर सरल भाषा में समझाने के लिए हार्दिक साधुवाद 🙏आपने शत प्रतिशत सत्य कहा है कि वैश्विक संदर्भों से जोड़ कर ईसवी कैलेंडर की अवैज्ञानिकता को सिद्ध कर ही विश्व इस कालगणना के थोपे गए औपनिवेशिक भ्रमजाल से बाहर निकल पाऐंगे। कृतज्ञतापूर्ण धन्यवाद।
कृपया श्री नीलेश ओक एवं श्री वेदवीर आर्य जी के मध्य संवाद स्थापित करने में भूमिका निभायें एवं भारतीय इतिहास के सही कालक्रम को निर्धारित करने के साथ स्पष्ट इतिहास को प्रकट करें जिससे भारत माता के वैभव को पुनः स्थापित किया जा सके। धन्यवाद।
विदेश से आगत भारतिय सदा सन्दिग्ध सा होता है नीलेश विश्वसनीय नहीँ है सदा सत्यासत्य मिश्र करके भ्रान्त करता है अतः सावधान।।
jaisa naam vaisa kaam ved veer arya 🙏🙏🚩
Sir, I have no WORDS to comments on your Analysis. Totally I am speechless. I salute to your great RESEARCH. This research and knowledge should know each and every Indian.
श्री वेदवीर जी का अंग्रेजी वक्तव्य को हिंदी में प्रसारित करने हेतु आभार । इसमेें नवीनता लाकर स्तुत्य कार्य किया गया है । भारतीय कालक्रम के निर्धारण के लिए महत्त्वपूर्ण कार्य।
What a refreshing talk !! I hope to hear from Verveer arya ji more in the future ! I have already bought his book and hope to read more details there. Bahut bahut dhanywaad Vedveer ji !!
बहुत ही जानकारी भरपूर विडीओ।कितना खेला गया गई हमारी हिस्ट्री से!कितनी नफ़रत करते थे विदेशी की हमारे ज्ञान को झूठ ही बता दिया।
लेकिन सच तो सच ही रहेगा, हमको गर्व है हमारे इतिहास सभ्यता संस्कृति पे
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to be continued up to 250000000.....
TUKDE TUKDE gang , fake Hindu
shekhar gupta, ravish kumar, rajeep sirdesai, K.M. Shrimali (Marxist historian), Romila Thapar (Marxist historian), pallav baglaa, sagrika ghosh, punya prasoon vajpaee, abhishar sharma, vinod dua, rahul kanwal, nidhi, barkha datta, pratik sinha, saurabh divedi, dhruva rathee, prashant kanojiak,avita krishnan, arundhati roy, prashant bhusan, divya spandana, akaash benarjee, anjana om kashyap, prany roy, avi dandiya, karan thapar, preetish naandi, nikhil wagle, ramchandra guha, vinod kapri, medha patkar (activist), ashok swine,
digvijay singh, sharad pawar, navjoyot sing siddhu, sitaram yechuri, arvind kejariwal, sonia gandhi (gandhi family), randeep surjewal mamta benerjee,pavan khera, mani sankar aiyar, jignesh mewani, kanhaiya kumar, hardik patel, alpesh thakor, pramod krishnan, swami (mulla)agnivesh, mulayam, akhilesh yadav, lallu rabri tejasvi yadav, sam pitroda,jayram naresh, chandrababu naidu, tej bahadur yadav, yogendra yadav, sashi tharur, kapil sibbal, priyanka chaturvedi, p chidambaram, sharad yadav, renuka chowdhari, sunil chopra, mahua moitra,nishant varma, harsh mandar(social activist)
shilpa shindhe, mahesh bhatt, kamal hassan,sonam kapoor,deepa mehata, tanushri datta ,meera nair, sona mahapatra, shobha dayy, kareena kapoor, swara bhaskara, priyanka chopra, kunal kamra, prakash raj,shatrughan sinha, mallika dua, hard kaur, richa chaddha,sanjay datta, deepa mehata, sonam kapoor, anurag kashyap, anubhav sinha, ekta kapoor,
.............................to be continued
Itni dushman????
@@vvnrajuutube yesss, why I should not? should I wait for them to kill me or other innocents?
Hijre kutte ki moat marega pakishan ar bangladesh ki tarah .
Very interesting!
Great great effort 👍👍👍
Fantastic study.... Really really thank you for taking so much efforts for us .. 😊
👍 History should be written with honesty
Please upload more and more videos in hindi, it is very helpful for those who can't understand english, because most of the viewers of this channel is hindi speaking people. My humble request to this indic society
अती उत्तम श्री वेदवीर आयर्थ।
Your Research and Analysis are beyond comments & criticisms. Incredible research you have done. Whole world will accept one day the worth of Indian Civilization. And the truth of this developed civilization. I have no words to comment or write.
Salute to you, sir !!💐💐🇮🇳🎯✌
यह क्रोनोलॉजी मान्य है। क्योंकि यह तर्क से स्थापित है। इस पर आगे भी शोध जारी रहे।
Factual and excellent presentation.
bhaai saahab kamaal hai.
Finally you gave the answer.
We even have to change Western Chronology too. Without changing that world won't accept that.
Please provide English subtitles to this. So, that other people and Scholars can listen to this.
And, truly a multidisciplinary study is needed.
I have heard numerous Vedic preachers and leaned people but Respected Vedveer ARYA saheb is the most learned. I have gained lot of knowledge from his lecture. Thanks a lot Sir.
First of all,I genuinely appreciate efforts being put by you and your team to explicitly come up to conclusions that would justify the Bharat as nuclei of it's own culture,dharam and it's geographical boundaries based on logical and scientific standards.
First of all, I presume that our objective is to prove that our dharam & nation is created and protected by Bhrama-Vishnu-Mahesh and secondly,that we are originally from our country Bharat for 1000s of years and no invasion/migration of any group of people including Aryans took place ever during those mentioned previous thousands of years.
I observe,that we are taking a linear approach starting from god Brahma-Vishnu-Mahesh,then his 06 brahmarishis sons,manu,then finally us as humans like a tree moving from upwards towards downwards.
While following this linear approach heading downwards ,we come across points in time,where either our understated history including Ramayana & Mahabharata are available in fragments or there are times when two or more fragments are overlapping with each other. Due to this,the present day superior nations won't let us to produce and justify for our existence in Bharat for thousands of years and must be in denial mode for the reason that they don't want our nation to change it's attitude from slavery like mentality pounded on us by these foreign countries.
So, as per above mentioned objectives above, we should go for cyclical approach instead,the supporting logic and facts of which are more easy to execute,is more viable and is more synchronized to address and resolve our history with it's existence including our nation's dharam existence being practiced by us for thousands of years and is described as below.
My viewpoint in your aspect of looking into our country Bharat as the nucleus of its own dharam, culture and genes expansion outside Bharat and not the other way round ie. some hypothetical group of humans including aryan came to India in the name of conquer/migration or else. You and other scholars with that viewpoint on technical grounds have made it in the right direction. My input in it is that,a nation's integrity will survive and flourish only when that nation's dharam is created and established by the god of that nation and for that humans should have connect of any medium with our gods. In case of India/Bharat existence,gods are Bhrama-Vishnu-Mahesh. So,taking dharam and Bharat nation as two extremes points of a circle,then, in order to complete that circle/chakra,firstly,for 1st half of circle,assessments/discoveries/findings done by Indian concerned authorities and spread by you scholars ranging from Brahma,06 brahmrishis,manu,humans,Amavasu dynasty,Ramayana,Mahabharata,Rig ved,other veds,Upanishads,puraans upto our today's nation Bharat/India properly based on given records discovered. This is only the one half part of that dharam-nation circle,where gods are there,who take birth as avatars ie. Dashavtaars on earth as humans and leaves their body at the end by leaving with us veds,cultural heritage,teachings, life lessons and all. Then going further to complete the cycle while taking cyclical approach instead of current linear approach,the 2nd half of that circle has not been attended ideally ie. there has to be a human being who connect and reach out to god and god bestows that human(not avataar) with things which are recognized till now in our today's national culture of India/Bharat and even at International level. So, the 2nd half of the circle is completed by Vishvamitra/Kaushik,as out of 07 saptarishis/Brahmarishis,six being sons of god Brahma were Brahmarishi by birth,which could again only be a story,but when Vishvamitra comes into picture,where Vishwamitra/Kaushik is the only human being,who was originally a shatriya king of Amavasu dynasty in our humans and was given recognition of Saptarishi/Brahmarishi by god Brahma himself, thereby,Saptarishis gets linked with Brahma-Vishnu-Mahesh and existence of Manu who led to human beings is also justified. Then,Vishwamitra/Kaushik also appeared in Ramayana. Also,Bharat king,the descendants of pandavs/kauravas was son of dushyant king and mother Shakuntala, where Shakuntala was the daughter of Kaushik/Vishwamitra,so Mahabharata truthfulness is also correctly justified by taking Vishvamitra's daughter Shakuntala into account. So,Brahma-Vishnu-Mahesh,Saptarishis,Manu,Amavasu dynasty,Ramayana & Mahabharata are as true as we are alive today in our country named Bharat,as Vishwamitra/Kaushik joins & binds them together with full authenticity in any given point of our nation Bharat. So, Vishvamitra completes the 2nd half of that circle/chakra of dharam by Brahma-Vishnu-Mahesh & it's nation Bharat/India,where even at International level,Gayatri mantra has it's effective presence and Gayatri mantra was created by Vishvamitra himself during his tapasya apart from his mandala 3.So,Gayatri mantra is accepted at international level and so it's creater Vishvamitra.
Also,there is another proof to dismiss the arya invasion/immigration/visitors theory,in a way that if a group of people comes from outside foreign country,then their main objectives are to increase their land,population and their own dharam,gods. Kindly,correct me if it gets wrong that,there is no other country in world,who claim to have conquered India/Bharat through Aryans or else and has Bhrama-Vishnu-Mahesh gods from their country and they after conquering Bharat spread their gods Bhrama-Vishnu-Mahesh with culture into Bharat/India. So,their is no other such country in world,whose existence was there thousands years ago, who claims to have conquered Bharat/India in that phase of thousands years ago and that such country as their dharam was following their gods Bhrama-Vishnu-Mahesh then till today in their country in its majority population like in Bharat,where mostly everyone worships Brahma-Vishnu-Mahesh. Secondly,if they(so called capable Aryans)migrated to Bharat/India came from a country that was superior to Bharat that time,then who would be that group of able people,who would leave their settled country with superiority and migrate to a nation inferior to it. It is like shifting from USA to some poorer country,which doesn't happen. So again,aryan migration hypothesis again collapses. Moreover,if they were visitors,then visitors are meant to leave sooner than later. So Aryan visitors hypothesis gets again rejected. Ultimately,Bharat/India with its gods Bhrama-Vishnu-Mahesh are originally nuclei of our country's cultural,veds,puraans,Upanishads,Sanskrit,Hindi,Tamil,Telugu,Kannada,and other state languages of Bharat/India origin by completing the circle of dharam-nation/Bharat by taking Vishvamitra as only human being who reached out to Saptarishis and recognized by our Bharat/India country's god Bhrama himself.
I hope this cyclical approach would help you in journey of proving Bharat's existence since thousands of years.
आपके मौलिक अध्ययन को शत्-शत् नमन।
हजारों वर्ष पहले भारतीय लोग 1000 वर्ष तक आसमान का रिकॉर्ड रखते रहे !
आपने ब्रह्मा जी को मनुष्य बताने का साहस किया।
1 युग को हजार वर्ष से लाखों वर्ष तक का क्यों कह दिया जाता है यह भी समझ में आया।
बहुत सी अद्भुत बातें बताई आपने।
🙏🙏🙏 जय जय श्री राम
एक सुझाव है कि आप सभी अन्य विशिष्ट ज्योतिर्विदों को भी बुला कर एक भारतीय और फिर अन्तर्राष्ट्रीय संगोष्ठी का आयोजन कीजिए! पूरे विश्व को सच्चे ऐतिहासिक कालक्रम की जानकारी मिले। और, सब की भूलें सुधारी जा सकें! 🙏🙏🙏
Ji bhot shi khaa bhaisaab
अद्भुतम् अस्ति 🙏
Magnificent speech.
नमन 🙏
शत शत नमन
बहुत बहुत आभार धन्यबाद , प्रथम बार इतना विस्तृत विश्लेषण
JAYA JAYA SHRI KRUSHNA! Praise for the hard work.
SLOW BUT STEADY INDIC CULTURAL GROWTH, INTERMS OF HISTORY, POLITICS ETC 👏
आदरणीय वेदवीर जी को सादर नमस्ते,मै आप के गियान,एवं जानकारियों का मन से सत कार करता हूं, काल की गणना के विषय में, तीन ग्रन्थ भी सहायक है,( १) मनु स्मृति(२)वेद भाष्य स्वामी दयान्द जी लिखित(,३)१८९५, में लखित ग्रन्थ लेखक,लेखराज आर्य मुसाफिर आर्य समाज,अन्य, पी ऐन
ओक जी इतिहासकार,की पुस्तकों में काफी जानकारी प्राप्त होती है,शुभ चिंतक जी बिहार,धन्यवाद,
Excellent talks. Eagerly waiting to see our history is rewritten especially the ncert text books.
There must be a dedicated software which accumulates all the india time calculations. Your article is great.
अती सुंदर👍👍👍
आपके इस अद्वितीय अनुसंधान के लिए हार्दिक आभार व शुभकामनाएँ!
एक प्रश्न! शक व कुषाण संवत् को सोलह हजार बी सी शायद आप ने भूल से कह दिया है न? यह सौ कहना था न? 🙏🙏🙏
Very nice talk show.
Great service by you..To clarify the doubts.
Can you plz make a video explaining names of month Yug equinox and other complex words which you used to mention time
Ji yugo k baare me aap nikesh oak ji k videos bhi dekh skte ho
Great efforts 👍
अद्भुत ज्ञान
Naman Shri Vedveer ji,
Can you make short videos to explain time for children. I want to explain this whole time concept since the formation of this world as mentioned in Upnishad till today to teenagers and younger kids..
You have done really great research in this field already.
Thanks. We will make short videos to explain the chronology to younger generations in future.
@@Itihasa_bharat Dhanywaad.
Plz keep in mind the intellect level of young ones...So that they can relate themselves. Since I teach Sanskrit to age group 5 till 8 ...I should be able to easily explain them. Then I also need to explain to age group 9 and above
Please upload more and more videos in English , it is very helpful for those who can't understand Hindi.
Watch channel "sangam talks" . It contains mostly English videos
@@curious0014 Thank you
@@gautamastro for Indian history chronology research i recommend you to watch.
1. Nilesh oak
2. Raj Vedam
3. Mrugendra vinod
4. Vedveer Arya
Their videos are available on sangam talks
you have given very interesting information
बहुत सुंदर, धन्यवाद।
Excellent analysis and information, sir. But during the presentation you have at many places said the periods in thousands whereas it should be in hundreds. Although I could understand that it was a slip of tongue.
Sir, I salute you, one committee should be formed with others viz mrigendra vinod nilesh neelkanth oak, vedraj ,subhash kak , malhotaji and others,
This talk is really very informative.
Jag jag ae hind veer 🌍 hamara hai isko sikhae vasudev kutumbhkam🙏
i m enlightened today
Vedveer Arya ji, I think by brute force I could make "chadra katoch" is sandraccatos. Did some background on this name, these surname is used by chandravanshi who were ruling land between Ravi, Chenab and Sutlej, this also known as hydapas
Wonderfully explained the flawed sytem of our history,, ..
In this lecture I think there is a slip of tonugue while telling dates related to Budh, (you said 11thousands but its hundred )
हा मित्र
excellent work
❤️
Mr. Nilesh Oak ji asserts about the formation of Rig-Veda 21000 years ago. And he to talks about the astronomical evidences.
Please resolve this conflict. This is important.
बौद्ध ग्रन्थों को पाली भाषा मे क्यों लिखा गया जबकि संस्कृत भाषा मौजूद थी ? एक वीडियो भाषाओं पर भी बनाएं हिंदी में । धन्यवाद ।
मूलसमस्या तो आर्यद्रोह है इतना भी नहीँ समझते।।
Please upload english version
नमस्ते भाईयो आप चैनल के माध्यम से ज्ञान अर्जित कर के उसको मात्र अपने पास न रखे। उसे अपने परिचितों मे इसके बारे मे चर्चा अवश्य करे क्योंकि सब लोग यूट्यूब नही देखते ।
ज्ञान नहीं उल्लू बनाएंगे गधे बनाएंगे
बहुत अच्छा भाई
Sir who make the first map of world vedvavyas or its sugrerive ji or any one else
Sir. Need some light on Battle of ten Kings. And migration of human population.
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Marvellous sir
What aspect of the talk did you find marvelous?
@@NileshOak why so bitter?
@@raghavarvoltore6517
सत्येन लभ्यस् तपसा ह्येष आत्मा सम्यक् ज्ञानेन ब्रह्मचर्येण नित्यम्
अन्त:शरीरे ज्योतिर्मयो हि शुभ्रो
यं पश्यन्ति यतय: क्षीणदोषा:
- मुण्डक 3:1:5
@@NileshOak Truth need to be based on facts. Now your dating for the Mahabharata maybe correct but we need to verified it based on the puranas and genealogy king list. Otherwise we'll have a gap of 2000 years missing history if we use your dating of the epics. Vedveer Arya has shown the list of kings and date of the epics to coincide. Now of course Vedveer Arya as made a mistake of assuming that the Mahabharata was three layered of which Vyas wrote a 8000 sloka part .... which you have correctly pointed out is false.... but please if the puranas and the Mahabharata don't coincide then all your work is futile.
@@raghavarvoltore6517
If you consider it futile, then it is, at least for you.
Thanks for viewing my videos and reading my works. Charaiveti. Charaiveti. Charaiveti.
Bhagavad Gita 18:32
अधर्मं धर्ममिति या मन्यते तमसावृता |
सर्वार्थान्विपरीतांश्च बुद्धिः सा पार्थ तामसी ||
When did the humans started using 7-days week?
Why do you leave indus civilization every time. How do we reconcile that?
🚩🚩👍👍
JAY HIND VANDE MATRAM
Sir
All the span or unit of time, Yuga , kal , and others are absolutely based on mathematical modelling , spherical trigonometry Indians knew at time based purely on earth movement . Eg
1. Self rotation
2. Rotation around the sen
3. Precession
4. Tilt
All the time format and calenders , panjikas , sidhanto are mathematical interpolation and projection on that mathematical model.
Indians were that much superb at the time 9000 BCE DOING HIGHEST LEVEL OF MATHEMATICAL APPLICATION SITTING UNDER A TREE .
कुछ तो महत्वपूर्ण बात आपने बताई, मगर समझमे नही आई।
कृपया इस कालखंडोंको चित्र रूपी स्केल पर बताईए।
ताकि समझना आसान हो सके।
🙏
Is there an English translation of his talk anywhere?
Here , his video in English
th-cam.com/video/Do3HVreruO4/w-d-xo.html
Good talk, but it would be even more helpful if you could list some sources of your information, especially regarding the evidence related to agriculture in the sub-continent.
Multi displinary study 🙏🙏🙏🙏sanskrit, astronomi, different different calendars have to do too much work. 🙏🙏🙏
Thks bharat ke Rahul aaryaji time ke bare me bhi batate hai. Aur Maharashtra me ek couple hai ( paranjpe Or puranik) jinhone vedonka shlok to shlok adhyan kiya hai. 👍🙏🙏
Indian text book me e chronology kab ayega
Wa kya bat hai aaj mujhe pahli bar sahi history our time period ka pata chala
Agar a sahi hai to ?
Kya aapko malum hai jo Ram Mandir ka Case chal raha hai usme जज sahab ne pucha tha
Kya Mandir ke bare me kisi jotish me kuch likha hai kya
Is par aapka jawab जजsahab ko de dena chahiye 👍👍👍
Lekin mera sawal hai kya mourya shashan Ramayan our Mahabharat se pehle tha ? A to alag hi jankari samne aarahi hai dhanyawaad
Mauryas reigned around 1596-1459 BCE. I misspoke on certain occasions during this talk which need to be corrected.
Nilesh nilkanth oak. Sattologi me bhi kucch jaankari mil rahi hai
Jai sri ram
Then what will the exact date of kalki birth
Prof. Aarya abhi dwapar ya treta kon sa yug chal raha hai?
Do we have remedy for BC/BCE and AD/CE ???
Don't ask here because you will get loaded lies by this Socialist right winger . I'll recommend you just read your granthas www.vedrishi.com pe milenge .
U are a Hindu Messager of God
Keep it up
Best use on jio....
क्रप्या इस महा ज्ञान को हिंदी में एक किताब के रूप उपलब्ध करवायें
Sir kya jain aur baudha ki kaal banana bhi consider kar sakte hai kya?
Where does IVC fits in this chronology Vedveer sb ! Neither it finds place in linguistic time periods. Carbon dating of IVC also poses a big question.
Vishwamitra was a direct descendant of Brahma as mentioned in Bala Kaanda of Vaalmiki Ramayana.
नीलेश ओक जी के अनुसार रामायण 12500bc के आस पास हुई थी, उन्होंने इसके लिए अपनी रिसर्च भी बताई है। आप दोनों में कौन सही है यह कैसे निर्धारित होगा।
Please do not refer our history with reference to CE. But just say that so many thousand years from now.
Very good lecture must have taken years of study. Thanks for enlightenment.
then what was the language of indus valley? ?
prakrit?? pali??
or laukik sanskrit??
because indus valley c. dating 2700 bce to 2300 bce.
indus valley langauge was laukik sanskrit but scripts was unknown
@@myke_770 lagta h ki sharda scripts h.
२२.१ से २४.५ के झुकाव की जो ४२००० वर्ष की गति है उसका ध्रुवतारा बदलने की २६००० वर्ष की गति से सम्बद्ध है कि नहीँ। झुकाव बदलने पर क्या ध्रुवमण्डल भी फैलता सिकुड़ता है।।
Aap hi bataye vashishth aur vishcamitr 13500 bc me the aur raam 5500 . Ham jante hain ki vashosth aut vishvmitr treta yug me the. To aap ise kaise suljhayenge.
Good lecture but there is contradiction of Ramayan and Mahabharata dating. Nilesh Nilkanth oak's book says that ramayan happend before 12000 year and Mahabharata around 6000 year. He has also used astro archeological methodology. But anyhow we are thinking about it.... This is a good thing.
Yes... In dono ko aaps me bethkr debate krni chahiye i think
I feel TH-cam pe right wing ya pro Indian content ke against ek bohot badi conspiracy hai. Itne interesting content ke views hamesha kam kyu rehte hai ?
EXACTLY
Bilkul shi... TH-cam khud totally leftist ideology follow krta h or hm hinduo me bhi last 4 to 5 generation ka missing link h .... Asliyat me most of the hidnus aadhyatmik rup se bhog gareeb h
श्री वेदवीर आर्य जी आप से बात करनी है।
Some times by mistaken speaker pronounced thousand in place of hundred.
ye video delete karke thik se prepared karke boliye sir.
hundred ke jagah thousand or vice versa me vedio ka maja bigad gya?
Brilliant talk. But @13:13 the speaker says आगन्तास्मि is not a valid word. But it is a valid word in today's Sanskrit also. It is the लुट् लकार form, another form of future tense.
sanny2k2 आगन्ता is valid in Laukik Sanskrit not आगन्तास्मि. Using अस्मि after आगन्ता is not permitted in Laukik Sanskrit.
@@Itihasa_bharat sir aap nilesh oak ji se bhi dating k topic pr debate kijiye
ved veer sir can u challange nilesh nilkanth oak on dating dating of ramayan mahabharat, surya sidhanata and vedas. ur explanation does not seems to be scientific and accurate
युरेनियम dating
Carbon dating
ऐसे मुद्दे से स्पष्ट karo ji wedveer
The difference between Buddha nirvan & Shaka era according to burmese incriptions should be 1182 years not 11082 years!
Sir, dating you have plotted for ramayana and mahabharta don't match with timeline derived by sh. Nilesh Oak sir.
@May ur yes, you are right.
Nilesh Oak is giving fake timeline, remember as per scietific data also ... sea levels rose i 8500BCE - 7000 BCE makig SRILANKA a island...so how can ramayana be before that ... Nilesh Oak is not replying to questions asked.
@@ravikumarpillay8419 oh, never had this experience on getting no reply. I have read all books of Nileshji and attended conference and lectures delivered by him. To me he seemed to be most logical among vedveer arya, mrugendraji and other indologist. But may be your statement has some meaning.
@@saiecorp5646 Depends whether evidence is prime or logic and sleek marketing is what u rely on ... ur choice. does not make diff really for satyameva jayate
@@ravikumarpillay8419 true
Tou aapka kehna hai ke VED Brahma ji ke mukh se nahin niklay hue hain balkay baad main Rishion ne likhay hain or uskay baad bhee inmain bahut kuch jorra-ghtaiya or sudhaar kiya jata raha hai ??
haa. ved rishiyon dwra likhi gayi hain. aur alag alag time frame me compose ki gayi hain.
oldest mandala of rigved goes back to 200BC and newest mandala to 6000bce .
see nilesh oak research for accurate dating of mahanharat and ramayan
So many claims on Sri Ramayan and Mahabharat.
May be this needs to be seen along with the evidence shown by
Nilesh Oak ji
His claim has failed
@@pratham5719 Yes I understood that recently.
संभवत: कश्मीर के पहाङों में मौजूद गोल पत्थरों का इससे कोई संबंध हो।
@51:20 The time period of Buddha arrived at around 11000 BC may be interpreted as First incarnation of Vishnu which was Matsya Avatar. And around 11000BC world has seen the great flood which I'm relating with the Matsya Avatar of Shri Visnu.
Mrigashira isn't Prajapati, it is Soma. Prajapati is lord of Rohini.
And you just changed Autumn Equinox year calculations to Winter Solstice year calculations without any reference.
Autumnal Equinox to reckon the new Samvatsara but the list of Nakshatras was prepared considering the nakshatra at Winter solstice. Winter solstice was at Mrigashira around 11200 BCE, at Rohini around 10200 BCE and at Krittika around 9200 BCE. Samvatsara of 5-year Yuga calendar commenced from Magha sukla pratipada reckoning from Sharad season.