Sri Vedveer arya 's work is very comprehensive and convincing than Sri Nilesh Oak's theory I feel. As a person interested reading Jaya, harivamsha, Bhagavatha, Ramayana, mahabharatha from my childhood.... I find the chronology from Manu to Mahabharatha presented by Sri arya is excellent to understand our devas, danavas, asuras,rishis, kings from our Ithihasa and puranas with their timeline in a more enlightened way🙏
Thank you for an extremely erudite analysis of this subject. Insofar as the legend of Ganesha is concerned, it is perhaps not not right to dismiss him as a large headed big eared person. The Ganesha legend is perhaps a cosmological allegory, yet to be deciphered. The reference to him as "suryakoti samaprabha" is consonant with the most recent discovery of heavenly bodies that are a million times brighter than Sun dated to the very beginning of creation. (Modern astronomers had not envisaged the existence of such bodies even as late as mid-20th century.). This again is in agreement with the assertion of Ganeshatharvasheersha "Aavirbhtam cha srshtyadou prakrutheh purushat param" (meaning "he who emerged soon after the beginning of creation"). Ganesha is thus an embodiment of a celestial giant yet to be discovered.
@@asifanwar9636 everyone who is interested in colonial dogmatic concoctions driven fanatical myths must study NCERT textbooks 😆 which the NCERT too mentions that they don't have any proper bonafide proof or source for their mumbo jumbo fanatics written in the textbooks 😂
@@descendantofbharatbharatva7155 What about stories of Flying Donkeys carrying a man to higher skies of hallucinations after hitting coke? sorry asking the wrong person, Question to you @Asif Anwar.
@@descendantofbharatbharatva7155 @VV V we are not like andhbhakt we don't mix all sprituality or religious beliefs, allegorical literature with proven history if those are extraterrestrial & allegorical . but andhbhakt are can do that. Keep it up. 😉🙊🙊🙊🧞♀️🧞♂️ Atharva Veda 4.11.1 The Bull supports the wide-spread earth and heaven, the Bull supports the spacious air between them. The Bull supports the sky’s six spacious regions: the universal world hath he pervaded. Atharva Veda 10.8.18This gold-hued Haiisa’s wings, flying to heaven, spread o’er Rig Veda 7.55.7, Atharva Veda 4.5.1 The Bull [Vushab/Sun] who hath a thousand horns, who rises up from out the sea…
@@asifanwar9636 Lies in NCERT’s Everyone knows how well our school curriculum is designed. A unique kind of exaltation has been conferred upon the oppressive British colonial rulers and the barbarian Mughals. Sanatani practices are made to seem intentionally weak and inferior in comparison with these plunderers because of a whitewashed history. NCERT’s history books were cleverly manipulated to distort our understanding of our proud history and society by their design. As a result, successive generations of Hindus have become brainwashed and debased. Leftist historians such as Romila Thapar, Irfan Habib, Yogendra Yadav, etc., have designed the NCERTs. Regardless of how much these historians try to paint a rosy picture, the truth can’t and shouldn’t be forgotten. The Mughal barbarian rulers starting from Babar to Aurangzeb plundered national wealth, raped and killed Hindu women, razed Hindu temples, and tried to eradicate Hinduism. We are taught that Mughal rulers like Aurangzeb and Shahjahan gave grants to maintain and repair Hindu temples which were demolished during wars by NCERT historians. The question is, in which wars were temples destroyed? The Hindu temples were destroyed as part of the so-called wars waged by the Muslim rulers against the Kafirs. Here is an excerpt detailing the same “All Mughal emperors gave grants to support the building and maintenance of places of worship. Even when temples were destroyed during war, grants were later issued for their repair - as we know from the reigns of Shah Jahan and Aurangzeb”, as written in the Part II of NCERT’s Theme of Indian History textbook’s page 234.
I am a staunch Hindu and a student of our scriptures and of vedanta. But l had no answer when someone asked me why is there no archeological evidence of the mahabharat war. Archeologists have done a lot of digging in and around the area of Kurukshetra but not even found a single bow and arrow, leave alone chariots, and other weapons. Can anyone who can answer this specific question pl explain?
Nonsense! The war of Kurukshetra didn't happen about 3000 BC! In the 1st chapter of the 12th canto of Srimad Bhagavatam (and also in the Vayu Purana) the dynasties after the war and their duration are listed. They already amount to more than 4000 years! But after that Srimad Bhagavatam 12.1.39 seems to refer to the foundation of the Indus-Sarasvati Civilisation because: • the location fits, • the (according to archeologists) egalitarian society of this civilisation fits, • the secular character of this society fits (no temples and no private or public places of worshiping were found in the cities of this civilisation), • and the finding of seals with religious depictions related to the Veda while no temples or places of worshiping were found can only mean that this seals came from an earlier (vedic) era. And this fits the description of this civilisation as post-vedic in Srimad Bhagavatam 12.1.39. This Indus-Sarasvati Civilisation is said to have been founded about 3000 BC and this added to the duration of more than 4000 years of the dynasties after the war of Kurukshetra gives a date before 7000 BC for this war.
If Saka era started in 587 BCE then Sakas should invaded india at that time and this should be corroborated by historical records of Europe, Russia, Mongolia or China wherever Sakas came from?
why should the nature of birth be basis of deciding the historicity of the entire epic? What matters is the Dynasty line, a major battle and the aftermath from archeology and "Secular History" point of view.
Believe, bcoz Quran says so. No Brains. Answer: noone is that much free to write such a big fictional poem with realistic city names. Ao, it is not fiction.
It's hardly believable that all chronologies are wrong, Indian, Greek, Christian, Islamic etc etc. As if there is an international conspiracy and Mr. Arya is the only one knight in shining armour. I think it would be amazing if there was a lot of citation from historians from all over who have also claimed historical inaccuracies. Explaining an apparently disruptive theory to laymen like us, is more sensationalism rather than true academics.
First thing we need to do is bring original word for Mahabharat, Ram and Krishn. Let’s at least remove this extra English ‘A’ from our vocab or at least pronunciation. It’s just Ishwar or Brahman not Ishwara, Brahamana….it’s highly irritating and inaccurate.
He is not an englishman, but an Indian qualified in his subject.Concentrate on what he is conveying across. We should be proud of Sri Vedveer arya for his excellent work.
LOL India was far advanced in the ancient time... Mean while the west were nothing more than a bunch of barbarians. Besides that a lot of "Scientists" are actually working on understand all the old so called myths. And they are finding that there is more truth in those than they thought. Science with a mind frame of ethno-centricity and and generally closed mindedness is not scientific at all. There just may be more than one way to get to the truth beyond the "scientific" methods used by the west.
What a contradiction in your narrative. Discovery and presentation of tangible empiracle proof or the account of a trusted source audited by peer review again by a reliable peer are the only qualifying factors to proving a theory as reality/fact. Otherwise it lives in the realm of pseudo science or even worse mythology. Ranting and rambling the same point does nothing but prove that you are clutching straws at dogma. Independent thinkers like myself have always been sceptical of belief as being dogma especially when it's pushed down ones throat.
He has thrown an open challenge for 1million dollars to refute and falsify his hypothesis using the available scientific disciplines. Do you have the competence to do so by your so called peer review concoctions driven colonial assertions The Jaipur Dialogues too have announced an Award of ₹2.1 Cr to anyone who can prove AIT. They do not have a single claim yet. On the other side, there is a veritable flood of evidence to disprove a theory which was nothing but speculation at the best of times, yet the entrenched powers that be in the academia, the Church and the Islamists just ignore it and try and find pathways around it. It helps them to communalise the issue so that the government remains defensive and does not touch the curriculum built by them over decades of being in power.
Mahabharata goes back 1500 BC and not more. This is as good as fact if you dare to research the work of Shrii Prabhat Rainjan Sarkar. You cannot disregard his work.
As Bharatiyas, we have the right to believe in our texts.
Vedveer Arya is a gem of a genius.
Sri Vedveer arya 's work is very comprehensive and convincing than Sri Nilesh Oak's theory I feel. As a person interested reading Jaya, harivamsha, Bhagavatha, Ramayana, mahabharatha from my childhood.... I find the chronology from Manu to Mahabharatha presented by Sri arya is excellent to understand our devas, danavas, asuras,rishis, kings from our Ithihasa and puranas with their timeline in a more enlightened way🙏
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Thank you for an extremely erudite analysis of this subject. Insofar as the legend of Ganesha is concerned, it is perhaps not not right to dismiss him as a large headed big eared person. The Ganesha legend is perhaps a cosmological allegory, yet to be deciphered. The reference to him as "suryakoti samaprabha" is consonant with the most recent discovery of heavenly bodies that are a million times brighter than Sun dated to the very beginning of creation. (Modern astronomers had not envisaged the existence of such bodies even as late as mid-20th century.). This again is in agreement with the assertion of Ganeshatharvasheersha "Aavirbhtam cha srshtyadou prakrutheh purushat param" (meaning "he who emerged soon after the beginning of creation"). Ganesha is thus an embodiment of a celestial giant yet to be discovered.
Wonderful presentation by Vedveer. No one comes as close to comprehensive in this field then him.
Yes, absolutely.
Hmm... He makes an interesting case. I'll have to buy his book now.
Jai shree Ram 🚩🚩🚩
Thanks for the best content for younger generations
Sangam talks pls upload next part as soon as possible 🙏
Great lecture sir
Everyone who is intersted in History must watch this Video completely 👍😃
Every one who interested in story must watch this video completely 😅🤣 🤭🤭
@@asifanwar9636 everyone who is interested in colonial dogmatic concoctions driven fanatical myths must study NCERT textbooks 😆 which the NCERT too mentions that they don't have any proper bonafide proof or source for their mumbo jumbo fanatics written in the textbooks 😂
@@descendantofbharatbharatva7155 What about stories of Flying Donkeys carrying a man to higher skies of hallucinations after hitting coke? sorry asking the wrong person, Question to you @Asif Anwar.
@@descendantofbharatbharatva7155 @VV V we are not like andhbhakt we don't mix all sprituality or religious beliefs, allegorical literature with proven history if those are extraterrestrial & allegorical . but andhbhakt are can do that. Keep it up. 😉🙊🙊🙊🧞♀️🧞♂️
Atharva Veda 4.11.1 The Bull supports the wide-spread earth and heaven, the Bull supports the spacious air between them. The Bull supports the sky’s six spacious regions: the universal world hath he pervaded.
Atharva Veda 10.8.18This gold-hued Haiisa’s wings, flying to heaven, spread o’er
Rig Veda 7.55.7, Atharva Veda 4.5.1 The Bull [Vushab/Sun] who hath a thousand horns, who rises up from out the sea…
@@asifanwar9636 Lies in NCERT’s
Everyone knows how well our school curriculum is designed. A unique kind of exaltation has been conferred upon the oppressive British colonial rulers and the barbarian Mughals. Sanatani practices are made to seem intentionally weak and inferior in comparison with these plunderers because of a whitewashed history. NCERT’s history books were cleverly manipulated to distort our understanding of our proud history and society by their design. As a result, successive generations of Hindus have become brainwashed and debased.
Leftist historians such as Romila Thapar, Irfan Habib, Yogendra Yadav, etc., have designed the NCERTs. Regardless of how much these historians try to paint a rosy picture, the truth can’t and shouldn’t be forgotten. The Mughal barbarian rulers starting from Babar to Aurangzeb plundered national wealth, raped and killed Hindu women, razed Hindu temples, and tried to eradicate Hinduism. We are taught that Mughal rulers like Aurangzeb and Shahjahan gave grants to maintain and repair Hindu temples which were demolished during wars by NCERT historians. The question is, in which wars were temples destroyed? The Hindu temples were destroyed as part of the so-called wars waged by the Muslim rulers against the Kafirs.
Here is an excerpt detailing the same “All Mughal emperors gave grants to support the building and maintenance of places of worship. Even when temples were destroyed during war, grants were later issued for their repair - as we know from the reigns of Shah Jahan and Aurangzeb”, as written in the Part II of NCERT’s Theme of Indian History textbook’s page 234.
Very well explained 🙏
I salute you for your wealth of knowledge. Thank you.
Useful knowledge.. Hope corrections will be made in our textbooks also.
If they don't, we will pressurise the government.
Excellent
I am a staunch Hindu and a student of our scriptures and of vedanta. But l had no answer when someone asked me why is there no archeological evidence of the mahabharat war. Archeologists have done a lot of digging in and around the area of Kurukshetra but not even found a single bow and arrow, leave alone chariots, and other weapons. Can anyone who can answer this specific question pl explain?
Sir please share pdf link of this lecture.
it's really helpful 🙏
Pls upload the next part i.e, from 1st century BCE to the medieval history of India.
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According to this age of IVC ?
What about Shalivahana Saka, which kannadigas use now currently
अच्छी जानकारी होगी
Wow excellent
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Link of part 2?
Nonsense! The war of Kurukshetra didn't happen about 3000 BC! In the 1st chapter of the 12th canto of Srimad Bhagavatam (and also in the Vayu Purana) the dynasties after the war and their duration are listed. They already amount to more than 4000 years! But after that Srimad Bhagavatam 12.1.39 seems to refer to the foundation of the Indus-Sarasvati Civilisation because:
• the location fits,
• the (according to archeologists) egalitarian society of this civilisation fits,
• the secular character of this society fits (no temples and no private or public places of worshiping were found in the cities of this civilisation),
• and the finding of seals with religious depictions related to the Veda while no temples or places of worshiping were found can only mean that this seals came from an earlier (vedic) era. And this fits the description of this civilisation as post-vedic in Srimad Bhagavatam 12.1.39.
This Indus-Sarasvati Civilisation is said to have been founded about 3000 BC and this added to the duration of more than 4000 years of the dynasties after the war of Kurukshetra gives a date before 7000 BC for this war.
If Saka era started in 587 BCE then Sakas should invaded india at that time and this should be corroborated by historical records of Europe, Russia, Mongolia or China wherever Sakas came from?
Pdf ?
Pls upload the next part.
Buddha and Lao Tzu are they contemporary ?
Truly amazing and eye-opener
Thank you sir
This is the gem lost in the heap of stones (so called sanatani content flood in TH-cam)
ശ്രീ രാമ രാമരാജ്യം ഉയർന്നു വന്നു അതുകൊണ്ട് പ്രജകൾ മുഴുവനും ഭാരതീയർ ആയി തീർന്നു ഹര ഹര മഹാദേവ
If any one can logically justify me the birth of Pandvas and Karan I will believe without any doubt that Mahabharata happened!
why should the nature of birth be basis of deciding the historicity of the entire epic? What matters is the Dynasty line, a major battle and the aftermath from archeology and "Secular History" point of view.
@@vakarthi4Alexander is son of Zeus lol.
Believe, bcoz Quran says so. No Brains.
Answer: noone is that much free to write such a big fictional poem with realistic city names. Ao, it is not fiction.
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They were Greeks before the birth of Jesus and Pagans just like Hindus! Pagans believe in such stupidness!
It's hardly believable that all chronologies are wrong, Indian, Greek, Christian, Islamic etc etc. As if there is an international conspiracy and Mr. Arya is the only one knight in shining armour.
I think it would be amazing if there was a lot of citation from historians from all over who have also claimed historical inaccuracies.
Explaining an apparently disruptive theory to laymen like us, is more sensationalism rather than true academics.
5561 BCE - Mahabharata war , to the day. Nilesh Oak. Please 🙏 present any evidence to contradict him.
oh please!! Vedveer is reconciling every date of the world and not just the Mahabharara.
They are match fixing Carbon dating to fit their chronology 😂.
First thing we need to do is bring original word for Mahabharat, Ram and Krishn. Let’s at least remove this extra English ‘A’ from our vocab or at least pronunciation. It’s just Ishwar or Brahman not Ishwara, Brahamana….it’s highly irritating and inaccurate.
Speaking Butler English.
He is not an englishman, but an Indian qualified in his subject.Concentrate on what he is conveying across. We should be proud of Sri Vedveer arya for his excellent work.
Wow !!! Indians are very well to creating fictional stories ,mythology & pseudo history. ..😌🐉🦄🧞♂️🧞♀️
LOL India was far advanced in the ancient time... Mean while the west were nothing more than a bunch of barbarians. Besides that a lot of "Scientists" are actually working on understand all the old so called myths. And they are finding that there is more truth in those than they thought. Science with a mind frame of ethno-centricity and and generally closed mindedness is not scientific at all. There just may be more than one way to get to the truth beyond the "scientific" methods used by the west.
Lets go and cut the moon and wait till sun sets in muddy pond.
NCERT textbooks are good examples
@@hari566 Andhbhakt 🐏🙉🙊🐘😉
@@asifanwar9636 better than someone who believes by cutting the head of a kafir will get heaven and 72 hoories.
What a contradiction in your narrative. Discovery and presentation of tangible empiracle proof or the account of a trusted source audited by peer review again by a reliable peer are the only qualifying factors to proving a theory as reality/fact. Otherwise it lives in the realm of pseudo science or even worse mythology. Ranting and rambling the same point does nothing but prove that you are clutching straws at dogma. Independent thinkers like myself have always been sceptical of belief as being dogma especially when it's pushed down ones throat.
Ok LAUDEndran 😂😂
Shut your ducking
Who can trust Peer Review any longer? I don't. Can you point out those contradictions you have found for the rest of us?
Louverdran, pl reply to Tiempo's question
He has thrown an open challenge for 1million dollars to refute and falsify his hypothesis using the available scientific disciplines. Do you have the competence to do so by your so called peer review concoctions driven colonial assertions
The Jaipur Dialogues too have announced an Award of ₹2.1 Cr to anyone who can prove AIT. They do not have a single claim yet. On the other side, there is a veritable flood of evidence to disprove a theory which was nothing but speculation at the best of times, yet the entrenched powers that be in the academia, the Church and the Islamists just ignore it and try and find pathways around it. It helps them to communalise the issue so that the government remains defensive and does not touch the curriculum built by them over decades of being in power.
Mahabharata goes back 1500 BC and not more. This is as good as fact if you dare to research the work of Shrii Prabhat Rainjan Sarkar. You cannot disregard his work.
He has oroven him wrong already
@@bobpeter1620 Without studying Shrii Shrii Anandamurti aka P. R. Sarkar you will not be able to prove the chronology of India.
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