Honda Civic hatchback 2017 in-depth review - Carbuyer
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The latest, 10th-generation Honda Civic is well made, well equipped, practical, enjoyable to drive and a genuine alternative to other family hatchbacks. The stylised design won’t be to everyone’s taste, but the Civic is unquestionably striking and looks great in the metal. If you’re in the market for a Vauxhall Astra, Ford Focus, Volkswagen Golf or similar, do stop by a Honda showroom to see how the Civic suits.
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Most of these journos seem to be in the pockets of German car makers.
I'm still baffled how Brits correlate "squidgy plastics" with build quality. Hondas are not as nice looking inside, but they will outlast VW products threefold.
David Azpe Just reading some old comments here, is it me or this is overpriced? I mean Mazda can produce their cars with tons of features including Bose speakers, wifi and a superb media/navigation system. All Hondas come with 'speakers' as I don't find anything from them that comes with anything near as that. And the truth is I so want the 1.5 Turbo (the type R is totally overkill for roads and daily driving).
I've owned 9 hondas and they will outlast any car . The best long term car. All excellent to drive.
@@DamianXvolt Hondas age very well, so the higher price is no problem at all.
Finally the Euro spec is the same car of the global spec. The preview two generations were completely different.
There was potential, but the cutlines for the hatch are terrible and those bumpers! If they would just get rid of those bumpers... At least the sedan/saloon looks descent, but I'm curious to see how it will be priced in comparison to the hatch.
Looks better than another boring a3 on the road
Rear lights pretty much look like the toyota C-HR's
Ali RS but this came out first
very misleading review.
Car doesn't make sense at all. They threw away the strong points of the old one (magic seats, naturally aspirated engines that were still fuel efficiënt, huge boot in the station (biggest of all C segment cars, good design).
With this one they have quite an ugly design that a lot of C segment buyers will never go for (lease of private), no availability of a sporty engine (Type-R is too extreme), turbo engines (which is fine, but Honda's were always high RPM cars), very little smartness in terms of interior design, and an old fashioned slow and laggy media system.They simply made wrong choices. The magic seats are gone because they wanted to driver position lower and thus remove the fuel tank from under the drivers seat. Because they placed it under the passengers seats, the magic seats weren't possible anymore. Who cares about sitting lower in a Civic? Isn't it worse for keeping overview on the road? Maybe because they wanted the Civic to become more sporty? Well, then why tune the suspension for more comfort?
Honda should've gone with two cars (several brands are offering two models in the same segment now), a Civic, which is the rational car for everyone (with high sitting position, magic seats and comfortable suspension), and an Integra (lower seating position, stiffer suspension, coupe lines), if they really wanted a car in which they could put their sporty coupé needs and ideas which seems to be the case. And why would they not offer the option for a proper sporty engine? A Type-R immediately looks like it should be in the Fast and the Furious (not to mention, costs quite a lot). It's really a car for anyone who doesn't give a f*ck about anything.
I really thought Honda was ready to up their game after the previous generation with the quite good Accord (TLX in the US, we don't have the US Accord), Civic, and even the Legend and the announcement of the new NSX. But looking at this, I'm quite disappointed.
I am so sorry but this is not a hatchback. It's just not.
It looks hideous.
Honestly i always said i will only buy german cars if i wanted something new and i would consider the civic over the golf IF ONLY it wasn't this ugly, i mean literally its not only bad looking NO its a really ugly car
Thumbs up for the review and reviewer, thumbs down for the car.
there there... once again showing the over tendency to Fords, golfs and astras... in my opinion and driving experience , this honda machine is far more interesting than those in all aspects
I've just purchased a 2019 1.5 Sport and am extremely pleased with my choice of car. The criticisms in this review are of course personal. If you're looking for something different from the rather bland Golf then this should appeal. The car is a dream to drive, quick enough, comfortable (8.5hrs to Scotland), well screwed together and the CVT auto box is excellent IMO. I averaged 49 mpg to Scotland. It's not often I have 4 people in the car so head room is not an issue. The boot is fantastic and one of the major reasons I bought the car as I need a lot of space for hobbies, runs to the tip etc.. By the way, the suspension is on the firm side but pretty good on the appalling Scottish roads, and the steering is spot on. I do not have any gripes, after all, I chose it :O)
Um. 49 mpg on the regular turbo 1.5 engine? You don't have a hybrid of some sort???
What's the expected real world mileage, if I might ask?
@@JRTKesha Hi. I'm averaging 44 MPG mixed town/motorway driving. I don't have a heavy right foot but open it up when I need to or have some fun.
@@bevholbeche-eyre1093 Wow, that's excellent! I'm a pretty relaxed driver, so this should be my expected mpg as well. The Civic's looking better and better.
ok i might be the only one who like the look of this car
personally I love the look of the Civic hatch, the 1.5 turbo sedan is a dream to drive and I would have the Civic Hatch over any golf, or vaxhaul. waiting for this UK Civic to arrive in NZ so I can own one.
You could say that because it is Japanese its far more reliable than a german tsi witch always works with the check engine on.
The back originally did look iffy but the more I see the car, the more I like it, once you see it on the road, it'll look awesome and being Honda, it'll last for ages.
That's what I thought until now that I'm looking to buy one, and find out that both petrol engines have terrible design flaws. Namely the wet timing belt in the 1.0 that wears prematurely and leaves debris in the oil that clog the engine's "arteries" inducing catastrophic failures, or the 1.5 with is notorious oil dilution problems, where gasoline seeps through the cylinder walls and mixes with the oil, rising its level and also inducing premature wear and possible catastrophic failures, on top of a strong smell of gasoline in the cabin. Looks like the diesel is the only good option, but they sold very few of them and stopped producing it in 2020
just me who noticed carbuyer put James' name in the title after carwow put Matt's name in the title?
Alex Smith was just thinking the same
Alex Smith they do this in a lot of videos
I think they're the same company's but they just use different presenters for different channels for some reason
Who watches a video of themselves? That's a bit egotistical
Nope, instead you just rip off the other one :^)
When one of these passes me at night, it's simply awesome!
Just see petrol Ped s video on this car then you get the real idea about this car
The magic seats were a feature of the old Fit/Jazz platform, (on which the 9G Euro Civic was built) where the gas tank was under the front seats - also making the front seats higher up. The new Civic is built on the also-new Civic/CRV/Accord platform, where the tank is under the REAR seats.
who thinks its better than ford gt, bmw 1 series and volvo v40
This car must be great, because the german press is scared of it and they are bashing it like crazy (most ridiculous thing so far was a comparison between the 1.0 Civic and 1.5+ competition), sad thing is germans want to believe their blatant lies and think the Civic is crap because of them...
I miss the old Civics funky dashboard and the Magic Seats :( , I think Honda should bring back the split tailgate like they used to have on the EG hatch civics
Where's the easter egg?
Oops, wrong video ;-)
i bet no one got the joke ahaha
I love the leather interior (standard on 1.0 Executive and 1.5 Prestige) , but you can't, at least not in my country, order it with with the double centre exhaust pipes (only on 1.5 Sport & 1.5 Sport +). It's such a shame, I want both and it drives me nuts I can't have!
Exactly the problem I'm having. I have decided in favour of the leather interior, in part because the cloth quality didn't feel so good.
arthenor007 and that is been put in a nice way! The cloth reminds me of the inside of nike running shoes!
I am still saving for another year, but i will probably go the same way as you. And maybe i will find an aftermarket solution to tweek the standard pipes...
I asked the salesperson about fitting the sport model pipes to the prestige model, but it's not possible because the trunk on the prestige model has a bigger storage space beneath the trunk floor (where the exhaust pipes run in the sports model). Perhaps there will be some creative aftermarket solutions nonetheless, or Honda will consider adding leather to the sports model for their 2019 revision.
Damn =(
What realy bothers me, is their are no exhaust pipes at all visible on versions like the prestige. It just does not look right without... Maybe if there would be a not too expensive and nice way to make a least the left and right pipes visible. I am afraid just putting add ons on to let them poke from under the pumper will not cut the musterd, though I will look up into that. I am afraid I would either need to cut in the rear bumper or replace it with something aftermarket to make the pipes visible...
Well I have still a year to go, so lets hope Honda just puts the leather option on the 1.5 sport, or the pipes on the 1.0 prestige. Engine wise both the 1.0 or the 1.5 would be good enough for what I do so that no point for me. A bigger engine is always fun, but 130 horses is enough. The car just has to look right, both from outside and inside!
the back of the car is too ugly.
I see Carbuyer are now editing out comments (not for reasons of profanity etc) - pretty sad from supposed journalists...
There 's no vibration coming to the pedals ( I drove this 1.0 turbo )....wtf are you talking about ?
Dan Iosubescu yeah, me too...and didn't feel any vibrations either...
Got mine 1 week ago... No vibrations at all!!!!
Does Civic 2017 1.5L sport comes with spare wheel space in UK model ? I heard that dual exhausts in sport+ models are leaving no space for spare wheel ?
The Skoda Octavia should be compared to an Accord not a Civic. The Magic Seats have gone because you can only have them with Torsion Beam rear suspension. This new Civic has Fully Independent rear suspension. I know which I would rather have! The handling is just so much better than the previous 2 generation Civics. Sacrificing a bit of space for suspension mounts in the back means you can’t have magic seats.
who cares about head room in behind,it is honda,it is not made for rear passengers.
Yeah, by the way of its looks its made for scrapyard.
Demirel Piric I don't get this complaint, raise the head rests like
I don't think the hump in the boot is nitpicking. I think it's downright stupid of Honda to get rid of the magic seats - one of the previous car's USPs. As it stands, this Civic has no USP whatsoever. In fact I would say a Golf is more flexible!
I love this car!! I would buy Civic over Golf if I had money fot the new one :p
How is this car going over road humps?
The Civic has lost all of its personality that the car two generations ago had in abundance
4:06 loading into the front hard ? God damn, if only Honda engineers would've put door so you could access that area, like right behind the front doors
Loool surprised he didnt complain about not being able to reach the pedals from the back seats as well
I never used the magic seats i my old civic
adaptive cruise control on a manual?? I didn't know that was possible...
1 Litre Petro? OMG. 1.5 Turbo is what we have here in the states. James is the First Reviewer that has found so much wrong with the CIVIC right down to the Styling. It's Obvious he loves the GOLF that falls apart right after the warranty is up over the proven HONDA reliability. With that said why would you give him this car to review?
gene978 1.5 turbo is offered in the uk also.
Civic looks like a product of some cheap Indian car tuning tv show.
Yooka: That was, like, three days after the release of The Yooka Laylee Rap! And a week before the release of the Yooka Laylee game itself!
I don't think it looks bad from some angles, I'd even say I think it's quite attractive, especially looking at it from the rear sideways. I just wish they hadn't covered the front and back in glossy black plastic. Interior is a step up from the last three models. It reminds me of how they used to lay out the dashes back in the 90s. I'd have one of these in silver.
This civic is beautiful and Practical
Can't see granny buying this one!!
Is the manual different from the one we get in America because every review from across the pond says it's fantastic, yet every American review says it's one of Hondas worst.
Bring the Honda Accord 10 to Europe, please
The car? I don't like. I think it's a bit over the top in terms of design that negates many other good parts, for me that is. I will give it some more time to grow on me. But I'd like to say something about this video, I noticed some very nice transitions made by the cameraman on the inside view and few other tricks that made this even so slightly better and better. Very good job, you have my appreciation for the entirety of the carbuyer crew. And James, you really do a nice job presenting, I think you're the man for this channel and it's a real pleasure watching and listening you. All the best from now on!
I have the Civic (2008 Model) and am going to upgrade soon. How is this car going over road humps? The Civic I drive at the moment is awful.
It should have been a station, then it would have been perfect in front and back and given the Octavia a HUGE run for it's money :).
Those fake black plastic vent grilles on the back are hideous.
Aren't the new civics technically designed in the U.S?
Hi, man, just keep criticizing, really, just keep going. To such a BRILLIANT CAR? Why did you do this?
civic has grown so much they might as well start importing the accord back into the UK.
That guy said it’s not smooth as the tsi 1L 😂😂 its either personal or he getting paid to talk like that and it’s not nice as motor journalism they have to be honest
The exterior looks like it has been made from an airfix kit with bits missing, so Honda has filled in the gaps with black plastic 'blanks'.
The rear seat height restriction is unforgivable, but surpassed for stupidity by dropping the 'magic seats', which were the clincher for so many people in choosing a Honda in the past.
Still, as long as I've got a pulse and am breathing, I would much rather drive one of these than a zzzz... I can hardly stay awake to say it... a VW Golzzzzz...
It's a good job nobody takes any notice of this crap because no cars would be sold.
Like the parcel shelf, clever design.
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This car is one of the best but also one of the ugliest car in its class.
WOW we did like the interior but the car is not very attractive
in my opinion the previous civic had better interior design
FBIRoyLindell honestly I dont care about the auto transmission because I like manual, but apsolutely agree about looks and about magic seats
Luka No magic seats due to fuel tank being moved to below rear seats.
Adnan Reta yes I know...but that was unique in autoindustry today like gauges and dashboard
James, where did you buy the Jacket your wearing?
Dezz9820 he got it in a shop
Fernando Alonso should have reviewed it.. :D
The ultimate chav-machine...
I love the looks of this car. Bold, striking and refreshingly individual, plus all the usual Honda attributes it comes with. Looking forward to taking a closer look at this car and test drive.
I would still buy this over a Golf or a Focus, next to a Mazda 3, I would have more difficulties making a choice, but next to the 2 previous civics, this just does not as great. I has lost much of the 'power of dreams' factor and that is a real shame, not even the superb new engines, transmission and road handling can make up to.
So not a big miss for me, but it hardly makes up to my expectations.
Does any variation have a towing hook option ?
Seems to me that Ginni isn't working much these days (cuz she prolly can't stand JB or cuz she left the channel)....and we need to chip in guys and get this guy some boots....cuz it seems like he only have those ones. Can't stand his quirky voice.....I'm out!!!
I disagree about the location of the driver information, it was intuitive unless you were a stuck-in-a-mould journalist. I couldn't understand why other cars didn't have similar displays. The latest CVT is far better than I expected, I liked it. But the car is extremely ugly and the Magic Seats were part of the essential Civic package.
I was in Chicago recently where the US version of the Civic is plentiful and looks far better in the booted version. The ugly areas of plastic uselessness in the front and rear of the Civic hatch are more restrained in the US Civic and the overall shape is more pleasing. The US award-winning Honda Accord is also a very good looking car and I think would do well in the UK.
After 18 years of owning Hondas, since driving the latest (top of the range) I decided not to get the Civic and instead bought a Golf GTi with Performance Pack and DSG. It was similar cost, has 1000 miles on the clock, insurance is compatible and the car is so far ahead of the Civic it feels like a 21st Century car. Plus residuals will be around 50%.
Like their F1 engineering team, I think Honda have taken a lurch backwards since 2012. Bring back all the beautiful cars they used to make.
Just as well thought out as their F1 engines
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There must have been a fight in the design room at honda and an accident happened to their drawings then they said lets just go with it and ended up with that rear end. Just terrible.
Looks like Subaru XV from the back
The front looks "ok", the side looks "ok" but the rear.. damn someone drank too much that day.. I prefer the Honda civic sedan
I have the 1.5l turbo in Australia. Assumedly all models have the best safety feature not mentioned in the review, the passenger outside window mirror has a camera and when indicating in that direction the view of the lane shows up on the central screen. Has markers for depth and width so great for lane changes to see cars (and bikes) in the blind spot. Can’t understand why this was not reviewed. I miss the magic seats from my prior hatch but the bigger reversing screen, left lane camera and Android Auto are winners for me.
The colour of the car was supposed to be Red however by excessive colour grading you turned it to Orange. Why false information?
Driving position is a lot lower than the previous civic, the way honda did this is by moving the fuel tank from underneath the drivers seat as in the 2 previous civic’s too under the rear bench hence no magic seat arrangement, personally i’d much rather have the lower driving position
The video review contradicts user comments. Reviews should be given comparing similar cars in its category.
Every new design I see it just looks like it went to the gym and ripped out of its shell. I don't like it much...
I don't think this car is beautiful. But Golf and Astra are some of the most boring cars lookswise you can find. Also I just had this Civic out for a test drive, Honda simply makes cars more fun to drive than anyone else, and their gearboxes and handling are second to none.
mazda too
Never, ever use this soundtrack for videos again. It is stressful, dark and horrible.
I don’t think with all their best efforts, Honda can make the back of this civic any more hideous
Why is it so ugly . Ford Focus even though it is showing its age it's the best looking car in this class
I was considering this car but then all the reviews talk about that head bump and got put off.
when he closes the boot, thinks there's a Electric tailgate, but then finds out that he has to do it manually. 4:19
looks like a goddamn decepticon from the back dunno what the hell is going with honda these days
It's ugly tho 😒
Subtitles are hilarious... "CVT is not very good [scowl]"
I've forgotten about Matt now. Matt who? It's all James, baby!
No magic seats . Just something else against it.
Yes it's putting me of I have a 16 plate it's Amazing
RIP carbuyer
I swear Honda has a beef with rear ends. They all look hideous.
great review.
What a ugly car...
Isn't particularly thought out? Anything but that.
what's the background instrumental starting around 4:00
I love James comeback comments. I think that all people who come here just to diss James should grow up and do something productive for once.
The civic is an awful looking car,it has been getting uglier for over a decade.
review for a new civic or 10 thing worst on new civic?