That was Freakin' MASTERFUL! I could not get the "major" airlines to talk to me because I was a CommutAir captain flying the Beechcraft 1900 Super D, and had no combat flying experience in the F-14. But I did get on with AirTran, had a great 14 years there and then got on with the Southwest Airlines Adopt-A-Pilot program. Well done, Captain Roger Victor! Well done!!
It would really help a lot if pilots got paid for the hours they were working, but for some reason they accepted and continue to accept working many hours for no pay. I wonder if firefighters would accept a contract where they only got paid for the time they were fighting fires, or police for only the time they were arresting criminals, or lawyers only for the time they were arguing cases, or lifeguards only for the time they were rescuing swimmers; on and on. What a cadre of cowards; sheesh.
Here’s the way I look at it. Someone is doing the flight planing and fuel calculation for the pilot. Airline pilots don’t technically start working until they get in the airplane to do the pre flight. I am currently working for an aerial survey and I start getting paid while I’m still in my hotel when I make the flight plan, call atc to coordinate and when I get to the airport to calculate how much fuel I need for the job.
Jose Omar we do our own flight planning, the jet guys also do planning by reviewing their flight plans and notams. The job starts the day before reading/watching the weather over the areas you’re going to be flying. It’s total immersion. It’s wrong of employers to pay just for stick time because the job is much more than that.
@@AkPacerPilot My point was not that our per hour pay was more or less than other professions, it was accepting a pay scheme that UNLIKE most other professions I am familiar with we ACCEPT contracts that have us perform work for NO PAY for our employers. I think that is lame, and I think we are lame for agreeing to it. I remember when I was an FO for AA back in the 90's pulling down 3K/mo. I used to get a discount at the dry cleaners (they'd give uniform discounts). One day the owner told me he was tired of giving discounts to rich airline pilots (at the time a Sherrif's deputy was making more than me) and so terminated his uniform discount for pilots. Another time I was driving through a Taco Bell picking up dinner on the way home after a trip. I pulled up to the pay/pickup window in my old beat up Datsun 210 wagon. The gal looked aghast and asked me, "Is this your car?!?" I said yes, and she exclaimed dumbfounded, "I thought pilots all drove like Mercedes, or something," The assumption all pilots are pulling down what B777 captains' make in the last few years of their career makes it hard to convince peeps greedy pilots should ever get any increases in compensation.
Funny but sad to. Because it really reflects how this once very good career have deteriorated into a really shitty job. But pilots only have themselves to blame for ruin the job by not sticking together. Instead gone off individually to accept shitty working conditions and thus ruining this once very good career. It will not get any better after this pandemic. Employers will maintain for years that they can't afford to pay previous shitty conditions and now will offer maybe half of that. Pilots will again betray each other and accept even worse conditions. Ask yourself this. Based on the continuous worsening conditions, which young aspiring individuals will want to invest in becoming a career pilot even before this pandemic situation? We all love flying the plane of course. But this profession is definitely finished if you are thinking about a healthy comfortable retirement.
Yes it has because I flew for one in the 1990's Any airline that does not use its own name is one, its just we done' want to admit it if we fly for one.
The United States Department of Transportation defines a major carrier or major airline carrier as a U.S.-based airline that posts more than $1 billion in revenue during a fiscal year. Southwest, JetBlue and Alaska are not regionals. I flew for a regional years ago too. You probably fly for Delta and are part of the problem. Your pilot group caved on scope, allowed the most regionals and then complained the loudest. Continental never allowed regionals with more than 50 seats and Southwest never outsourced.
I am a pilot so to me a major airline is one where I can fly long or short haul, a regional one where I could spend my whole career and be happy enough but have a more limited route structure and a commuter where I go for a short period of time to earn hours and experience to go to one of the other previously mentioned groups.
This is wonderful! So happy to have discovered Captain Roger Victor!!!
it's time, I think, for lyrics of this. all the budding pilots out there need to learn what they're gonaa be getting in to!
That was Freakin' MASTERFUL! I could not get the "major" airlines to talk to me because I was a CommutAir captain flying the Beechcraft 1900 Super D, and had no combat flying experience in the F-14. But I did get on with AirTran, had a great 14 years there and then got on with the Southwest Airlines Adopt-A-Pilot program. Well done, Captain Roger Victor! Well done!!
Wonder if you know cousin Larry? He also did that 1900D then Dash-8 thing.
Don McLean is Smiling on you now. Very Well Done Captain Roger Victor!!
It just gets more and more real with each verse
Man it’s horrible when you give an overlook
Some of your best work yet!
Ive watched this several times already omg it’s so funny because it was totally me up till 2 years ago when I finally got saved!
Epic!!!
You say you're not a good singer but you carry this tune very well!!
Amen.
Its a hit Captain Roger Victor.
Love it. Personally though borrowing the same song:
Traded my yoke for a scope, and now... I control the sky.
Loved TSA, great days, but better days to come for all of us. Much love
It would really help a lot if pilots got paid for the hours they were working, but for some reason they accepted and continue to accept working many hours for no pay. I wonder if firefighters would accept a contract where they only got paid for the time they were fighting fires, or police for only the time they were arresting criminals, or lawyers only for the time they were arguing cases, or lifeguards only for the time they were rescuing swimmers; on and on.
What a cadre of cowards; sheesh.
Wouldn't make a difference, they'd just reduce the hourly pay.
It would make a difference, because there would be an incentive to make the utilization of the pilot in the most efficient way (time wise).
Here’s the way I look at it. Someone is doing the flight planing and fuel calculation for the pilot. Airline pilots don’t technically start working until they get in the airplane to do the pre flight. I am currently working for an aerial survey and I start getting paid while I’m still in my hotel when I make the flight plan, call atc to coordinate and when I get to the airport to calculate how much fuel I need for the job.
Jose Omar we do our own flight planning, the jet guys also do planning by reviewing their flight plans and notams. The job starts the day before reading/watching the weather over the areas you’re going to be flying. It’s total immersion. It’s wrong of employers to pay just for stick time because the job is much more than that.
@@AkPacerPilot My point was not that our per hour pay was more or less than other professions, it was accepting a pay scheme that UNLIKE most other professions I am familiar with we ACCEPT contracts that have us perform work for NO PAY for our employers. I think that is lame, and I think we are lame for agreeing to it.
I remember when I was an FO for AA back in the 90's pulling down 3K/mo. I used to get a discount at the dry cleaners (they'd give uniform discounts). One day the owner told me he was tired of giving discounts to rich airline pilots (at the time a Sherrif's deputy was making more than me) and so terminated his uniform discount for pilots.
Another time I was driving through a Taco Bell picking up dinner on the way home after a trip. I pulled up to the pay/pickup window in my old beat up Datsun 210 wagon. The gal looked aghast and asked me, "Is this your car?!?" I said yes, and she exclaimed dumbfounded, "I thought pilots all drove like Mercedes, or something,"
The assumption all pilots are pulling down what B777 captains' make in the last few years of their career makes it hard to convince peeps greedy pilots should ever get any increases in compensation.
Brilliant!!!
When is this coming to Spotify please? Lol great song!
i guess congratulations are in order then :) Free shipping. Your congrats is in the mail and should arrive *soon*
19700% like to dislike ratio xD good job
Where is "you'll need us back" covid song?!
No extension ! No volunteer flying ! and do not answer your phone on dayoff if the phone call is from the Company !!
If you had an EASA ATPL (plus the right to live & work in the EU) then I'd sure hire you !
Funny but sad to. Because it really reflects how this once very good career have deteriorated into a really shitty job.
But pilots only have themselves to blame for ruin the job by not sticking together. Instead gone off individually to accept shitty working conditions and thus ruining this once very good career.
It will not get any better after this pandemic. Employers will maintain for years that they can't afford to pay previous shitty conditions and now will offer maybe half of that. Pilots will again betray each other and accept even worse conditions.
Ask yourself this. Based on the continuous worsening conditions, which young aspiring individuals will want to invest in becoming a career pilot even before this pandemic situation?
We all love flying the plane of course. But this profession is definitely finished if you are thinking about a healthy comfortable retirement.
well this turned out to be pretty wrong. Pay has gone through the roof
Ahahahah!
Never liked the original version but this was funny!
They are not "regionals" they are "commuter" airlines. Regionals are Southwest, Jet Blue, Alaska etc.
Yes, they are regionals. WN B6 and AS are not regional airlines. The term "commuter" hasn't existed since 1981
Yes it has because I flew for one in the 1990's Any airline that does not use its own name is one, its just we done' want to admit it if we fly for one.
The United States Department of Transportation defines a major carrier or major airline carrier as a U.S.-based airline that posts more than $1 billion in revenue during a fiscal year. Southwest, JetBlue and Alaska are not regionals. I flew for a regional years ago too. You probably fly for Delta and are part of the problem. Your pilot group caved on scope, allowed the most regionals and then complained the loudest. Continental never allowed regionals with more than 50 seats and Southwest never outsourced.
I am a pilot so to me a major airline is one where I can fly long or short haul, a regional one where I could spend my whole career and be happy enough but have a more limited route structure and a commuter where I go for a short period of time to earn hours and experience to go to one of the other previously mentioned groups.
PS I have worked t all 3