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Chattanooga, TN. Year #3 with Deckover - exposed/uncovered 20ftx14ft Deck . Absolutely zero issues with it. It an amazing product. I love how it was able to cover up all the defermattions in our old decking boards. I had to badically brush on the entire deck. The roller was not great at all. As for prep work. Our deck was well over 15 years old. I flipped every board & sanded the surface (replaced ones that broke)
Wood rot is usually from not letting the wood dry completely before painting. Deckover is a sealer. Also I've seen people pressure wash beforehand. That needs to dry much longer than just hosing it off. I think you nailed it when you said prep is key
Even perfect prep will not solve the problems that Deckover presents. I have a deck restoration business and nowadays I try to stay away from Deckover decks. They are a nightmare for everyone involved and there's really no solution other than to replace wood/ rebuild.
@@aldoushuxley1347what do you recommend? I have two porches. Bought my home in 2017 and they were painted but need re-done. Decking is thinner width, tongue and groove. I have no clue what to use after scraping/sanding. Re-paint? Stain? Then from there, what brand is best? 😅 I feel overwhelmed with options.
@@stormyknight1120 I'm assuming the porches were stained with solid colors and not transparent or semi-transparent? It would help to know what the previous homeowner used. Without knowing anything else, a good option for solid colors is Shermin-Williams' SuperDeck. It's easy to find and does the job. Btw, you typically want to pressure wash (with a detergent/ stripping agent) before staining. Then you obviously let it dry for a couple days (depending on the outside temp) before staining.
@@aldoushuxley1347 To be honest, it looks like wall paint. It's completely opaque, a dark grey. It's peeling off in sheets. It was a flipped house, lots of subpar work (so I'm just saying it wouldn't shock me if it were regular interior paint). Thank you so much for responding. I'm off work tomorrow and heading to Home Depot.
I believe Behr must have changed the formula with the new "advanced" deck over product. I used the original deck over product about 5 years ago and have serious problems with it. Peeling off like paper in some spots and wood rot in several places. It was not due to incorrect application, I followed the directions. There was, in fact a class action lawsuit against Behr for that product, unfortunately, I missed out on that. I'm glad you have not had any problems, but make no mistake, many people have with original deck over.
i use the same product. The prep work really matters. My deck is fully open to the sun. Today i am putting my second coat on from 5 years ago. Only by the 3rd or 4th year it started to peel. I live in Canada
Absolutely right. Preparation is key. I really like deck over. I've had zero issues with it also, but the deck prep I have experienced is 3x the normal prep. U have to get to bare wood if possible and clean the bare wood and lightly scuff. If prepped right, it is awesome product. I had an acquaintance that his peeled and he blamed product. His prep was subpar at best
Prep is always key and many people like to half bake the prep work and then complain about the product not working. It sounds like the most important prep is to allow the wood to dry, dry, dry before application.
The formula for Behr deck over has changed. There was a lawsuit from like 2002 to 2018. They have since changed formulas so if this has happened to you it most likely happened during that time frame. Also like he said if your trying to apply to thin, if you didn't wash your deck with a prep wash etc and make sure it's dry.. it takes 3 to 4 days for a deck to fully dry after washing! Then your not going to have proper adhesion! It took us a week to do all the prep on our tiny front porch, back porch and side porches. We did each one this way so it took a week for each deck so 3wks total between sanding, washing, letting it dry and letting it dry between coats. It's not a quick fast process by any means. We applied the color slate with texture and we filled all the seems and cracks first and let it dry before we came back in with our first official coat let it dry for 24hrs and then applied our second coat. You can't just use this stuff like regular paint. Our experience has been great and the decks all look great 2yrs later!.
This is a fantastic product. I'm coming up on year 2 since I did my deck and the paint has held up beautifully. Also, I'm in Alberta where we have super harsh winters and crazy weather in the summer. It's been exposed to everything. I went overkill with the prep and have no regrets as this will likely last many years to come. I highly recommend Behr Deckover. 👌🏻
@@jackspratt2222 Prep is not the issue where Deckover is concerned. It will more than likely end badly if you use it. It's just a matter of time. It's not worth even taking the risk. Nobody who has any knowledge about staining horizontal surfaces will have anything good to say about Deckover. Ask any manager in any paint supply store. I do deck restoration and Deckover decks are something I try to avoid because they're beyond repair. Unless they changed the formula, I have seen nothing but permanent damage caused by Deckover.
Great follow-up review. Thank you for this. Was actually just about to abandon the Behr option due to customer complaints. What did you use for the vertical rails?
Thanks for the follow up after a year. That's something that most TH-camrs don't do, so I appreciate that. What side of your house are the stairs on? South facing would have a lot of sun exposure and would be dryer. North facing would have almost no exposure, but would be wetter.
My original deck over is a massive mess. Prepped extremely well but definite sealed in moisture, areas of rot and peeling off in sheets. I also missed out on the class action lawsuit as it was too late when I learned about it.
I didn’t have good luck with it. Looked good at first but began peeling in a couple years and then some boards began to rot which I had to replace. I’m now scraping it all off with a putty knife which is a pain. The only area it has held up is close to the house where it doesn’t get as much weather. So I think it’s good for covered decks but not exposed ones like ours.
I have an old deck that I stained for many years. The last time I stained it was about 6 years ago. I just got done power washing it and was able to get most of the old stain off but since half of the deck is covered, stain did not entirely come off parts of the floor boards and the 4x4 posts and wood balusters. Does the old stain need to be 100% removed? Also, I had to replace some rotten floor boards with new pressure treated ones. Will the new ones look different than the old ones after the paint is applied?
I followed the prep instructions on mine and have had the issues that others take about. I like behr products but I wouldn't use this one personally. My deck is half covered and I have had the issues with it on both sections.
I put this product on just over 10 years ago. It lasted about four years maybe 4 1/2 I’m in the northern mid west extremely hot sun, direct sun from noon till sunset and I get snow on my deck by that fourth year I took a leaf blower to blow leaves off of my deck And that deck over came off in sheets I followed every step the manufacturer recommended when it came to the prep pre-clean all of it. I lost 14 boards after just 13 years since the deck with Bill I personally would never use this product and I would recommend against anyone using one year two years it’s always gonna look great not being exposed to direct sunlight could be OK
You probably won't see the bad effects after a single year. But when it inevitably fails, it can fail catastrophically. It doesn't penetrate into the wood. It just sits on top and usually traps moisture inside. I've seen numerous deck floors rot out because of this. Usually, the only way to fix the permanent problems that Deckover causes is to replace boards and/or rebuild decks. It causes permanent damage. You can't sand it or powerwash it off. As someone in the deck business, I don't know why this product is still being sold (unless they've thinned it out considerably). It's just not worth playing with fire.
I dealt with weather in many states in winter and summer. South Georgia winters are not bad but summers are. But not as bad in Albuquerque 17 years. Now in Montana where winters can be very heavy to deal with many move out because of it. Behr products actually failed in all these areas.
1st I want to thank you for your videos. it's so hard to know what to use that I'm going to be happy with. We do know that if we don't do that prep we won't get the best results. We live upstate New York so we don't get as much sun. We do get a lot of snow so, the result's may be different. With that being said, when I see your deck I see it the white scruff and the color looks dull. I know I won't be happy with that. maybe I can't get what I want???? It's too bad Trex is so expensive.
Hi there, just came across your TH-cam channel while searching for DIY outdoor kitchens. I just saw this video and noticed you have cables for the railings. Did you do that yourself? Also I’m pretty sure I’ve toured your neighborhood before as I recognize the area.
No issues either, for 4 or 5 years. But, eventually, it's going to bite you in the butt. 5 years sound pretty good though, right? Except, when it does start having issues, some of it will hold on super tight, but other parts will start peeling up, then it looks like crap. Stripper won't work on the stuff that is still adhering. It is incredibly painful to deal with, when the time does finally come.
How many cans did you go through and how many sq ft was your project? You mentioned in the 1st video that 75 sq ft coverage was generous. Curious how far it actually went. Thanks!
Preparation is 99.9% of the job. These people who have problems are either putting it on damp wood or they have a old water seal / stain or something that is not letting the new coating adhere.
I would speculate that most people who had problems with it probably put it on a deck that should’ve been replaced. If you get decent solid boards, you prep it right and get the coverage correct you probably won’t have any problems. This product isn’t a miracle cure.
I used it like 4, 5 years ago. Followed prep directions and the product failed after winter. I am in process of removing it. The product was garbage for me. I missed out on lawsuit. They must have changed and rebranded it. I will never use it again and will tell everyone to steer clear of it.
I am a handyman that specialize in many types of decks experience since 1972. Way before Behr or even Home Depot appeared into the scenes. I always prepare and prep everything in full detail on pressure washing and clean up before any type of painting. Behr is the worst product for any type applications. I will not recommend this product or will use it. In a couple of years you will wish you didn't either. I protect my customers from these products that are crap. Everyone believes it is good because of propaganda marketing commercials.
Nothing will happen in 1 year. Give it 5 years... you'll be on your hands and knees scraping it off. I'm in the process of trying to get this garbage off now. Worst product on the market. I would NEVER recommend this product to anyone. It's a tremendous waste of time, money, and will eventually rot your deck if there's any amount of peeling or lifting.
Chattanooga, TN. Year #3 with Deckover - exposed/uncovered 20ftx14ft Deck .
Absolutely zero issues with it. It an amazing product. I love how it was able to cover up all the defermattions in our old decking boards. I had to badically brush on the entire deck. The roller was not great at all.
As for prep work. Our deck was well over 15 years old. I flipped every board & sanded the surface (replaced ones that broke)
Wood rot is usually from not letting the wood dry completely before painting. Deckover is a sealer. Also I've seen people pressure wash beforehand. That needs to dry much longer than just hosing it off. I think you nailed it when you said prep is key
Absolutely agree!
Even perfect prep will not solve the problems that Deckover presents. I have a deck restoration business and nowadays I try to stay away from Deckover decks. They are a nightmare for everyone involved and there's really no solution other than to replace wood/ rebuild.
@@aldoushuxley1347what do you recommend? I have two porches. Bought my home in 2017 and they were painted but need re-done. Decking is thinner width, tongue and groove. I have no clue what to use after scraping/sanding. Re-paint? Stain? Then from there, what brand is best? 😅 I feel overwhelmed with options.
@@stormyknight1120 I'm assuming the porches were stained with solid colors and not transparent or semi-transparent? It would help to know what the previous homeowner used. Without knowing anything else, a good option for solid colors is Shermin-Williams' SuperDeck. It's easy to find and does the job. Btw, you typically want to pressure wash (with a detergent/ stripping agent) before staining. Then you obviously let it dry for a couple days (depending on the outside temp) before staining.
@@aldoushuxley1347 To be honest, it looks like wall paint. It's completely opaque, a dark grey. It's peeling off in sheets. It was a flipped house, lots of subpar work (so I'm just saying it wouldn't shock me if it were regular interior paint). Thank you so much for responding. I'm off work tomorrow and heading to Home Depot.
I believe Behr must have changed the formula with the new "advanced" deck over product. I used the original deck over product about 5 years ago and have serious problems with it. Peeling off like paper in some spots and wood rot in several places. It was not due to incorrect application, I followed the directions. There was, in fact a class action lawsuit against Behr for that product, unfortunately, I missed out on that. I'm glad you have not had any problems, but make no mistake, many people have with original deck over.
i use the same product. The prep work really matters. My deck is fully open to the sun. Today i am putting my second coat on from 5 years ago. Only by the 3rd or 4th year it started to peel. I live in Canada
Thank you! This is an extremely helpful video. 😊 side note, GORGEOUSE Deck.
Ty :)
Absolutely right. Preparation is key. I really like deck over. I've had zero issues with it also, but the deck prep I have experienced is 3x the normal prep. U have to get to bare wood if possible and clean the bare wood and lightly scuff. If prepped right, it is awesome product. I had an acquaintance that his peeled and he blamed product. His prep was subpar at best
You have a beautiful deck and home I just bought deck over for my deck I hope I have the same results as you!!!
Prep is always key and many people like to half bake the prep work and then complain about the product not working. It sounds like the most important prep is to allow the wood to dry, dry, dry before application.
The formula for Behr deck over has changed. There was a lawsuit from like 2002 to 2018. They have since changed formulas so if this has happened to you it most likely happened during that time frame. Also like he said if your trying to apply to thin, if you didn't wash your deck with a prep wash etc and make sure it's dry.. it takes 3 to 4 days for a deck to fully dry after washing! Then your not going to have proper adhesion! It took us a week to do all the prep on our tiny front porch, back porch and side porches. We did each one this way so it took a week for each deck so 3wks total between sanding, washing, letting it dry and letting it dry between coats. It's not a quick fast process by any means. We applied the color slate with texture and we filled all the seems and cracks first and let it dry before we came back in with our first official coat let it dry for 24hrs and then applied our second coat. You can't just use this stuff like regular paint. Our experience has been great and the decks all look great 2yrs later!.
This is a fantastic product. I'm coming up on year 2 since I did my deck and the paint has held up beautifully. Also, I'm in Alberta where we have super harsh winters and crazy weather in the summer. It's been exposed to everything. I went overkill with the prep and have no regrets as this will likely last many years to come. I highly recommend Behr Deckover. 👌🏻
What extra prep did you do?
@@jackspratt2222 Prep is not the issue where Deckover is concerned. It will more than likely end badly if you use it. It's just a matter of time. It's not worth even taking the risk. Nobody who has any knowledge about staining horizontal surfaces will have anything good to say about Deckover. Ask any manager in any paint supply store. I do deck restoration and Deckover decks are something I try to avoid because they're beyond repair. Unless they changed the formula, I have seen nothing but permanent damage caused by Deckover.
Great follow-up review. Thank you for this. Was actually just about to abandon the Behr option due to customer complaints. What did you use for the vertical rails?
Great vid! Curious what sectional furniture you have outside? Thx
Thanks for the follow up after a year. That's something that most TH-camrs don't do, so I appreciate that. What side of your house are the stairs on? South facing would have a lot of sun exposure and would be dryer. North facing would have almost no exposure, but would be wetter.
My stairs are on the SE!
what color is this?? looks great.
What color did you use if I may ask? I am just staining mine in Slate with Deckover.
My original deck over is a massive mess. Prepped extremely well but definite sealed in moisture, areas of rot and peeling off in sheets. I also missed out on the class action lawsuit as it was too late when I learned about it.
You didn’t prep it well at all if you sealed in the moisture…
What is the name of this color?? Thanks! Looks good!
Can you please tell me what cor did you get ?
What color did you use?
I didn’t have good luck with it. Looked good at first but began peeling in a couple years and then some boards began to rot which I had to replace. I’m now scraping it all off with a putty knife which is a pain. The only area it has held up is close to the house where it doesn’t get as much weather. So I think it’s good for covered decks but not exposed ones like ours.
If you are wasting time scraping with a putty knife, I bet you wasted a lot of time with half prepped work.
It looks great and I will say you must prep your deck I did not prep my deck and my deck is in bad shape but I learned my lesson
which product did you recommend for deck behr deck over plus or behr solid stain and sealer? why?
I have an old deck that I stained for many years. The last time I stained it was about 6 years ago. I just got done power washing it and was able to get most of the old stain off but since half of the deck is covered, stain did not entirely come off parts of the floor boards and the 4x4 posts and wood balusters. Does the old stain need to be 100% removed? Also, I had to replace some rotten floor boards with new pressure treated ones. Will the new ones look different than the old ones after the paint is applied?
Nope all the stain doesn’t have to come off and the new boards might need a couple of coats to look the same.
I followed the prep instructions on mine and have had the issues that others take about. I like behr products but I wouldn't use this one personally. My deck is half covered and I have had the issues with it on both sections.
I put this product on just over 10 years ago. It lasted about four years maybe 4 1/2 I’m in the northern mid west extremely hot sun, direct sun from noon till sunset and I get snow on my deck by that fourth year I took a leaf blower to blow leaves off of my deck And that deck over came off in sheets I followed every step the manufacturer recommended when it came to the prep pre-clean all of it. I lost 14 boards after just 13 years since the deck with Bill I personally would never use this product and I would recommend against anyone using one year two years it’s always gonna look great not being exposed to direct sunlight could be OK
You probably won't see the bad effects after a single year. But when it inevitably fails, it can fail catastrophically. It doesn't penetrate into the wood. It just sits on top and usually traps moisture inside. I've seen numerous deck floors rot out because of this. Usually, the only way to fix the permanent problems that Deckover causes is to replace boards and/or rebuild decks. It causes permanent damage. You can't sand it or powerwash it off. As someone in the deck business, I don't know why this product is still being sold (unless they've thinned it out considerably). It's just not worth playing with fire.
how do you fix a crack like on the video at 1:16?
Do you get snow ❄️
I dealt with weather in many states in winter and summer. South Georgia winters are not bad but summers are. But not as bad in Albuquerque 17 years. Now in Montana where winters can be very heavy to deal with many move out because of it. Behr products actually failed in all these areas.
What color is this?
What colour did you use
1st I want to thank you for your videos. it's so hard to know what to use that I'm going to be happy with. We do know that if we don't do that prep we won't get the best results. We live upstate New York so we don't get as much sun. We do get a lot of snow so, the result's may be different. With that being said, when I see your deck I see it the white scruff and the color looks dull. I know I won't be happy with that. maybe I can't get what I want???? It's too bad Trex is so expensive.
Hi there, just came across your TH-cam channel while searching for DIY outdoor kitchens. I just saw this video and noticed you have cables for the railings. Did you do that yourself? Also I’m pretty sure I’ve toured your neighborhood before as I recognize the area.
The cables I had done by the roof company. I like them - but will change out the top cable for a more sturdy rail.
No issues either, for 4 or 5 years. But, eventually, it's going to bite you in the butt. 5 years sound pretty good though, right? Except, when it does start having issues, some of it will hold on super tight, but other parts will start peeling up, then it looks like crap. Stripper won't work on the stuff that is still adhering. It is incredibly painful to deal with, when the time does finally come.
How many cans did you go through and how many sq ft was your project? You mentioned in the 1st video that 75 sq ft coverage was generous. Curious how far it actually went. Thanks!
Probably close to 50-60 sq ft.
So I work for for a home repair business and we have a job rn for a beck that has this stuff and it’s horrible it take off
Year 2 review?
Anywhere in the south nothing is going to last more than a few years. It takes a beat down.
Preparation is 99.9% of the job.
These people who have problems are either putting it on damp wood or they have a old water seal / stain or something that is not letting the new coating adhere.
Hi, I am interested in using the deckover on an covered porch floor. Curious as to your thoughts on using over a painted surface.
I think it would work great - but make sure you prep the deck very well!
I would speculate that most people who had problems with it probably put it on a deck that should’ve been replaced. If you get decent solid boards, you prep it right and get the coverage correct you probably won’t have any problems. This product isn’t a miracle cure.
Completely agree!!
How do you get the pollen and dust off.. just water?
Yes - that is what I do. Just water or blower :)
Im gonna do this. What was your prep? Im done staining every year.
I used a deck cleaner and scrubbed it. Then I just washed it all down, sanded anything rough, screwed any screws in that loosened. Paint! (2 coats)
@@MrGizmo211 how long between coats?
@@MrGizmo211 what color please tell me
How hot does the surface get with the dark color in the sun? Would someone be able to walk on it barefoot?
It does get hot - but you can definitely walk on it. It isn’t hotter than the stain was.
Update? Been 2 years
People bought a rehab and they hammered it on, no prep those are the complaining lol this shits great
It didnt make my wood rot but its sure as hell peeled off after one year full prep and coats everything disappointed
I used it like 4, 5 years ago. Followed prep directions and the product failed after winter. I am in process of removing it. The product was garbage for me. I missed out on lawsuit. They must have changed and rebranded it. I will never use it again and will tell everyone to steer clear of it.
Mine was way thicker than yours
Not even spreadable.
DO NOT allow the paint to bridge gaps between boards!!!
It's an easy mistake to make due to the thickness of this paint.
I am a handyman that specialize in many types of decks experience since 1972. Way before Behr or even Home Depot appeared into the scenes. I always prepare and prep everything in full detail on pressure washing and clean up before any type of painting. Behr is the worst product for any type applications. I will not recommend this product or will use it. In a couple of years you will wish you didn't either. I protect my customers from these products that are crap. Everyone believes it is good because of propaganda marketing commercials.
Nothing will happen in 1 year.
Give it 5 years... you'll be on your hands and knees scraping it off. I'm in the process of trying to get this garbage off now. Worst product on the market.
I would NEVER recommend this product to anyone. It's a tremendous waste of time, money, and will eventually rot your deck if there's any amount of peeling or lifting.
What color did you use?
What color did you use?
Coffee!