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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ต.ค. 2024
- The Honda Pilot is now larger, and more rugged with a dedicated off road trim called "Trailsport". We got one for review, and it had a fault we've never seen before. Otherwise, we drove it on road and off to see if Honda has differentiated its soft-roader from its mini-van. Join us or a Test Drive!
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My wife bought a White trail sport last week. I have driven it over 300 miles. Took it on an old logging road this past weekend -pot holes and gullies. The trail sport did fantastic. Handled all I threw at it like a champ. It’s NOT for crazy rock scrambling, but, it’s called Trailsport.
Saw a sky blue one with the bronze package at the gas station today and it made me do a double take. I want one so bad.
This is the right direction for the Passport and Pilot. It's much more capable vs the predecessors, NA V6, great color and looks. The AWD system is a snow and ice monster.
If it were me I'd spend the extra money and go for the new Land Cruiser, but this is going to carry more people and be more comfortable.
The new Land Cruiser is a Land Cruiser in name only. It is no longer the real king of off-road. It's a fugazi.
Trailsport can send up to 75% of the power to the rear. All the other trims are 70%.
Hopefully a bulb goes off they send up to 90+% to the rear🙃 and revisit doing a hybrid with the v6.
The Pathfinder was it for me, the CX-90 didn’t meet my family needs with 3rd row space. The Pilot snatched top spot after my mechanic said test drive one. Handles much better. Entire family loved it. Anytime I have 8 in the vehicle (6 adults, 2kids ), one comment my friends make is “I never thought inside was so spacious”.
I test drove a '23 in EX trim. I liked it. I'm a big guy, and it was noticeably more roomy in driver space than many of its competitors. The 3.5 surely wasn't a V8 but also didn't feel anemic. A few weeks later I compared Grand Cherokee, Atlas Cross Sport, and Passport Trailsport, all 3 V6 AWD... Of the three, I felt like the Honda had the best acceleration. The Grand Cherokee felt cramped and I don't know what's happened to the pentastar over the last 5-6 years but that one felt like it was going to come apart. The Cross Sport outdid the Honda by far on styling interior and exterior. Its VR6 was pleasantly smooth in power delivery without much need (but seemingly also not much desire) to rev high but the Honda's V6 just felt more ready able to get up and go. The Pilot looks a lot nicer than the Passport but both have really dated and extraordinarily bland interiors. After a lot of thinking about it, I ended up getting the VW but probably could have been almost as happy with either Honda (the Passport was much more interesting to me than the Pilot but between styling and not-quite-enough legroom in the higher trims, I swayed toward VW... I hope I don't come to regret that)
It’s a VW, you probably will lol
With all their conversation about the Trailsport’s rough road capability, which I enjoyed, why didn’t they take it on some rough roads? I’ve seen a few reviews showing the Trailsport doing stuff I would only have thought possible in a real off-road vehicle, such as my Toyota 4Runner. The Trailsport seems like an excellent compromise for folks who want to get to trailheads for day hikes in the back country, such as in the Sierras.
I don’t care about off-road but the Pilot is on my short list of candidates over choices such as the GV70. A normally aspirated V6 is one of the reasons.
This is the first video I've seen on these new Pilots. I saw one on the road and thought immediately "It's a Honda Grand Cherokee WK2".
I would definitely buy this over a Grand Cherokee for the reliability factor alone. I also like in this trim that there is some sidewall on those tires. I'm so tired (lol) of seeing these supposed "off-road" SUV's with comically sized wheels with itty bitty tires.
As a Trailsport owner, I can vouch for just about everything here. My key complaints: the transmission is VERY rough when it’s new. The shifting is terrible. Also, it really needs air-height adjustment suspension to really be awesome. As it is, it’s great, but if I could lift/lower it as need it would be perfect. Oh, and a hybrid would be a good idea…. I’m averaging 20mpg.
Did your transmission issue fix on its own? I have had mine a week and notice the same thing. Many have said it takes time to “learn”.
I have a 2014 Honda pilot awd touring and this new pilot has nothing I care enough about to trade it in for. Honda please add a hybrid v6 so I can trade mine in. After 130,000 miles my pilot has averaged 20.3 mpg. I would like better please.
Hey Honda, if I have a Trailsport, I want a bench middle seat because guess what? We want to put all the seats down and have a completely flat floor with no holes in it (i.e., middle seat missing from 2nd row) so that when we go off-road, we could sleep in the back. Trailsport owners don't care about captain's chairs, that's the touring and elite owners. But we do want the ventilated seats you keep from us in the Trailsport. Stop taking the choices away from us and GIVE US the choices to build what we want. Your vehicle selection system at dealerships sucks. This is what makes me want to go to Toyota or Nissan or Lexus.
I would also want ventilated seats. But also understand that if Honda focused more on customization, then prices would go up so we would get less for our $.
I would love a trail sport elite model with all the bells and whistles.
I was on the waitlist for a gx 550, but with all the v6 twin turbos failing on toyotas, i decided on the naturally aspirated v6 from honda.
Thinking about one of these. I have a 2011 Honda Odyssey that has served us well but I want AWD for skiing and ground clearance for when I go fly fishing and I have to drive rough logging roads. I want to be able to tow a teardrop trailer without stress.
I like the second row captain’s chairs because we often leave the middle out of our Odyssey for the ski bag down the middle.
This is way more comfortable and practical than a 4Runner; hard to justify the Toyota if you’re not hard core off-roading.
I’d love a hybrid but our second car is a Nissan LEAF and we use that most of the time around town. I’m not using a lot of fuel generally.
They really need to add air suspension to this to really give it real offroad chops. The i-VTM4 system is AMAZING, the vehicle just needs better ground clearance and some better damping to really go overlanding. It's SOOO close...
I wish the pilot/ridgeline/passport would get a hybrid
This is where I'm at, it's very hard to suggest the Pilot to family members when Highlanders are getting 80% better fuel economy
100%
I’m sure hybrid versions are coming within the next 5 years. Honda are in the beginning stages of going full electrification.
@matteugenio I'm absolutely not sure. They have an all new vehicle here with a new powertrain. It could've absolutely been a turbo 4 hybrid setup but clearly they stuck with a revised v6. I doubt they'll do it at all honestly since they went so far and would've led with the first model year of this gen with a game changer mpg setup.
Yep. A 30+ mpg Pilot with a larger size infotainment screen will sell like hot cakes.
I maintain that whether we are talking about the Pilot, or Passport; you guys need to drive it in a snowstorm with snow tires.. Then, and only then, ur minds will be blown.
Snow tires make many things amazing in a snow storm. We even love driving RWD sports cars in the snow with snow tires.
I drove mine on the Goodyear Eagle Touring all-seasons. Solid and confident. Impressed even my boss who has a 21 Highlander and learned we were on all-seasons. Passed everyone as they were driving slower than I, including 2 vehicles that went into hwy ditches (1 was some jeep the other turned over).
Do a review in the winter with snow. Just floor it and launch and you will feel the rear, turn off traction control and … 😁 Will try again once a other storm comes.
Say it again....this is better than previous Pilot
We're getting ready to pull the trigger on a 2025 Pilot Trailsport at a dealer special of 47k, but the beginning of this video is making me think twice now. Any more thoughts on the "bricking" issue?
As mentioned in the review, the problem was traced to a bad cell on the car battery. Not a common issue, but a new battery that is faulty is not impossible and not a Honda specific problem. Once it returned with a new battery it ran fine for us. If it works for you, we expect this to be a good vehicle - Honda's making great products right now. Thanks for watching!
Great SUV. May be best on the market in its three row segment short of body info rake Tahoe and Yukons. If only it has a regular shift lever instead of idiotic buttons.
I agree with you on the stupid buttons.
This truck or the new 2024 Hyundai Santa Fe????? Looking to buy one in summer
I hope the new Trailsport passport is just like this with full size spare, same look. Of course, more capability for adventuring as they learn feedback from this Pilot trailsport.
I might buy a pilot trailsport if they offer bench seat and a hybrid!
So, 5000# tow capacity, but does it come with a 7 pin rv plug? Or is one even available?
The factory "towing package" includes the 7 pin and is a $305 option from the factory.
@@TPeaceD Interesting. In Canada the Trailsport comes with the hitch but no wiring/plug.
Similar “issues” from Toyota-the Highlander only comes with 4 pin connection (strange as any trailer over 2000lbs requires electric trailer brakes).
I can't believe it bricked itself like that. At least it makes for good content!
Well that makes it harder for it to get stolen LOL
Interesting road test.
A conventional shifter normally comes with an override that lets you put the car into neutral without starting the car. Surely "upgrading" to a push button shifter would keep this ability 🤦♂️
The older version looked like a suv vs the mini van knock off.
I’m not sure about this one. The new Santa Fe XTR is cheaper and has cooler interior.
Man the fellas really seem to hate the 4th Gen. Doesn’t seem like that much of an improvement. Same basic drivetrain. Not sure how this changes the math on SUV or minivan for 99 percent of these that will never see a dirt road.
The last generation was soft in both styling and feel, which made it a tough sell over Hondas excellent minivan. Minivans are the best people haulers but suffer from a soft perception and reputation - most SUVs succeed because they seem more rugged and capable. While generation doesnt have a lot of new tech, it adds that rugged feel and some more cabin space. Thanks for watching.
Interior controls are good in the same way that a 2014 Mazda 6 is
Type r is not snapping anyone neck 😂
You can’t count on a good battery in a brand new car?! I was going to comment as unbelievable, but sadly, it isn’t.
Lol i know its ment to be a joke but the poor condition of our roads is i think oart of the suv truck craze in the usa because i remember maybe 10 years ago when i lived in Colorado it was on the news of people mad at the city because they would hit potholes with there cars and break their wheels so they not only hat to get a new tire but a new wheel and tire
The original NSX has DOHC VTEC at least 😄
They should have done the back more like the CRV. The back on this kind of reminds me of a minivan. I believe this is a fail on Honda. The pilot should’ve been the big brother to the CRV… I mean, they already copied the front practically.
I agree the car is great but honestly I would hesitate to buy it after knowing the broken fact. I know it’s good but… I know… Haha
Honda's use of those high flat hoods and "upper bumpers" are painful to look at. I haven't seen a good looking Honda in what seems like a decade.
The off road review that doesn’t take the vehicle off road…..hmmm.
Seems you didn’t watch much of this, but thanks for commenting.
Honda has totally screwed up Trailsport trim. It doesnt get bench seats. What if somone needs 5 people plus cargo.
In Canada, this trim doesnt get off road trail camera. Very idiotic of Honda.
SUV's are a waste. Waste of space, waste of gas, waste of money and they're not safer than cars. I don't get it..
They have higher profit margins. That's all there is to get. Fleet emissions regulations and marketing/propaganda has helped to ensure their preference amongst consumers, and intentional design choices are made to reduce interest in smaller cars (particularly poor packaging, limited options, mediocre drivetrains) while trucks and SUVs have become the preference of the image-conscious.
@@ExaltedDuck no argument. Increased rollover risk and all of that.
Guy obviously never travelled with 3 kids and gear if he says it’s a waste of space
Bring back the Crown Vic and Caprice. Those were the original people haulers.
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