Oliver Burke: What Went Wrong for "The Scottish Gareth Bale"
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Burke's decision to go to West Brom was not as bad as West Brom's decision to sign Burke
That footage of him as a youth player taking on a man shows he was heavily reliant on pace, rather than touch or a footballing brain.
The British media (including Scottish, Welsh & Irish) is guilty of overhyping players. Burke is not the first and will not be the last.
Makes me worry about Ben Doak
@@sweatyhaggis4303 I worry about Ben Doak physically, but he’s miles better technically, than Burke ever was.
To be fair, it’s done all over the world. Spain had Bojan as the Spanish Messi, then Bryan Gil for example. Brazil do it regularly, the list is too long to name. Ganso, lulinha, pato. USA with adu and pulisic. Any good young player, that particular countries media go crazy.
Remember the other Scottish messi Ryan gauld was that his name another failure 😂
Which country's media doesn't over hype stuff?
First time I heard of him was when Jurgen Klopp apparently went crazy with the Liverpool transfer committee when he heard he'd signed for Leipzeg. He really really wanted him at Liverpool. What could have been. He'd have probably been content with being a bench guy at Liverpool for a few years and maybe became a great player.
He had more than his chance at the Albion, but couldn’t score goals 🤷♂️
Thank the Lord for the "Liverpool Transfer Committee" ........ Liverpool definately dodged a bullet 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
NK is a midfielder.@@ThatOneInTenThousand..
I saw his last game for Forest - a 3-1 win over Leeds, and he scored a superb goal. The next days we leant he was off to germany for £10m (?) - and we Forest fans were not happy. For Burke, it was a case of too much too soon - and he's not alone. A shame that his career will be full off what ifs, but he'll still retire at 33 with £10m in the bank - so let's not feel too sorry for him !
Surely the £10m went to forest? I'm sure he still made a decent wage though
@@amandev6 No he pocketed the whole £10m all to himself. He didn't even give some to charity the greedy bastard.
wait do you think these transfer fees go to the player? Haha they're well paid but if you hear say Tierney to Arsenal for 25 million that money gans to the club not the player!
I had a season ticket at forest when he first broke through. Was honestly years ahead of anyone else his age and looked like he had more potential than any of our other youth players I saw break through in our team (Jenas, Dawson, Matty Cash, Jamaal Lascelles).
He was brilliant, but went to Leipzig and just absolutely nose dived. Should have definitely stayed for another year or two in the championship.
Should have seen him in a blades shirt. Stank up the pitch every game
As a fellow Burke this one hurts
Watching him play reminds me of when I used to play Sunday League football. Sometimes a couple of players were injured or had other things to do so everyone would call around their friends to find a replacement.. Occasionally, you'd end up with someone who was big and fast but once the match started, you realised that they hadn't played 11-a-side football before and didn't really know what to do. That's basically Oliver Burke... If you took away his pace, he'd struggle to find a non-league club willing to give him game time.
The Scottish Freddy Adu but with a better work ethic.
That's what I was like. Played constant 5s and 7s, was quick, strong, decent touch and pass, but I'm murder on an 11 aside as I hadn't played since the school 😂
football is simple, you put the ball in the net. maybe he didnt over think things like most do.
That's very harsh. Clearly, Burke had talent and attributes other than simply being able to run fast.
You don't have the career (even taking into account his struggles) he had, simply being a sprinter.
Load of nonsense
Great video. So many managers, like WIlder, thought they could be the one to get Burke playing how he undoubtedly could be. Unfortunately for Oli, he's at the age now where managers won't see a project anymore.
Interesting topic and great video, love the level of detail. Subscribed 👍
Watched him at Celtic couldnt trap a bag of cement
🤣🤣🤣 that good
Great quality videos
When he played for us at United, I heard him described as speedboat without a captain
Burke was an absolute beast at Nottingham Forest, but he became a victim of pure greed in the football world… everyone pressured him into leaving Forest when he really didn’t want to, and the same people kept advising him into taking more & more bad transfer moves.
The only real option was for him to comeback to Forest, where his style actually matched up with the football, but it never happened!!
great video. he was a fifa legend for me
solid vid as usual!
To be fair it's hard to blame him for leaving Leipzig. When a club accepts an offer for you, then its not exactly a vote of confidence in your future at that club.
We accepted a bid because we were struggling financially at the time, it was simply to good to turn sown
@@NickNicholsonNFFC
Who is 'we'? Leipzig or Nottm Forest? LOLZ
Especially when the offer was only 3m profit to Leipzig, who are owned by red bull 😂 you’re spot on
@@mosesrocco6614obviously Forest, when the Forest badge is his avatar...
@@davewebster689
Your powers of deduction are something to behold.
This is a well made and presented video, good work. Shame how things turned out for Burke, he looked so promising for so long.
I should think his big mistake was believing all the hype, thought he had arrived and he hadn’t. He sounds about as Scottish as Rod Stewart.
Best description I heard of him was "he plays football like a toddler trying to catch a balloon". I thought that was really funny, till i saw him play for United, then i realised it was incredibly accurate
Why’s he hyped then if people are saying something like that?
I like your content. Updating us on the failed Football Manager wonderkid.
When he came to Bremen, he had a great start as a sub. It seemed he was fit, motivated and wanted to show everybody how good he could be. After two goals as a sub, he began to complain about being a sub behind the two well-established strikers Füllkrug and Ducksch. He stopped having impact, his motivation dropped and after half a season he went on another loan. It seems his motivation everywhere just lasts for six to eight weeks before he is going back to being frustrated and complaining. I think it is mainly the attitude which prevents him from being the player he could be. Even if it has nothing to do with Bale, it would still mean being a player playing in the Premier League, between bank and pitch. At least. If he had that attitude at Leipzig, staying there, learning the philosophy, coming on when the team was ahead, learning the right timing on counter attacks, improving his vision and his scoring, he would have become a better player. But he has no patience and no willigness to learn. He is relying on his speed and power which is not enough.
The test of a good video is does it make me want to play football manager - fire up Steam! Great video, thank you
On fm I assume all his good stats are in the physicals and everything else is very low
I’d still say Ryan Gauld is the biggest victim of this
I still find it incredible that he has never been capped. Gauld is a quality player and I really think he would bring something different to the Scotland squad.
@@scott9294 There are far better midfielders- McGinn, McTominay, McGregor, Gilmour, Ferguson and then you have guys like Tom Cairney playing very well in the Premier League, who can't even get in the squad.
I'd much rather see Cairney given a game ahead of Gauld. Gauld is playing in a poor league, so I'm not quite sure why there is so much fuss over him.
why his doing decent at the teams his at but burke would not get 11g 13a in 34 games in the mls
I know this channel mainly focuses on Scottish football, but I’d love something on Paul Warhurst’s 1991 season. An injury crisis leads a journeyman defender to briefly become England’s most feared striker.
He was scoring some bangers too, putting a lot of the strikers of the era to shame.
I'd definitely watch that video.
Good idea!
yeah that was weird, then he got put back to centre-back for the rest of his career......
@@itsinthetreesitscoming7431 He was signed as striker for Blackburn (his goals of SW coming mainly in the previous season's cup comps), he didn't produce the goals and was quickly employed as a midfielder, they guy played everywhere!
Back in those days Chris Sutton was also a centre-back for Norwich that was turned into a striker. With success and longevity too, certainly in comparison to Paul Warhurst.
Ian Marshall was another one. I'm sure there are more. And Warhurst also played in midfield for Blackburn which I totally forgot.
Burke reminds me of myself when i used to play football.
Technically i was not good at all but by the age of 16 i was already 6'3 and 86 kilos, had blistering pace and was left footed. i played as a winger and striker and scored goals for fun, but when the other kids catch up to you physically it becomes a lot harder to stand out especially if you dont have the IQ or skills. Burke was big fast and strong since he was a kid and used that to his advantage but when he was faced with older players he had absolutely nothing to show.
"can pinpoint a few crucial decisions as being key to his downfall. Oliver Burke was born in Kirkcaldy" - I understand
He’s at my club now Birmingham City and it’s just not happening,he has the pace and you can see occasionally the potential is there,hopefully Tony Mowbray will get the best out of him before it’s too late and his career dwindles.
He needs a manager like Tony Mowbray or Mark Robins to get him back if he get his confidence back and mind right.
@@stephenholmes1036 his 27 the guys just got 0 football iq when he runs its always head down into 2/3 players he is lucky to be a champ player
If he cant stand out in league one next season, its time to wrap up
Loved getting him in FIFA because of his potential and pace and size. Him and Branthwaite. Two big fast dudes. Perfect for career mode.
I remember watching him at Forest when he first burst onto the scene & thinking he's brilliant!!! No way we can keep him as he's far to good for the championship...When Forest sold him, i wasn't surprised & wished him well & i was always seeing how he was doing in Germany & at West Brom.. What a shame that he hasn't progressed into the player he could of been...
He didn't seem to have developed the basic fundamentals early in his development. His size meant he could get by without them and sadly his coaches chose to overlook that fact.
Sadly as he has discovered that having potential becomes no chance of changing
He was outstanding at Forest, watched him a number of times and the way he simply glided through defences with his strength was a sight. I feel for him though, he was a victim of Fawaz and the circus that followed Forest at the time. See, Forest have always valued the individual with a view to building the team around them.. think of Brennan Johnson. When it works it’s perfect.. but he should have gone with his heart and stayed at Forest no matter what. His career and potential would have been nurtured slowly with the club and supporters he loved. Money really isn’t everything
Technique -80/ 100 , Pace 90 / 100 , Intelligence -34 / 100
Stick to Fifa.
@@jarraandyftmIronbridge is correct ✅
His misses, his football career, everything about this bloke baffles me🤯 some luck his got
After watching him play for Sheffield United the only way I can describe him is his legs are too quick for his brain. Loves to run but doesn't have a clue what to do with the ball at his feet l
As a Birmingham fan, we're stuck with him this year and yeah - you describe him perfectly. It's as though someone went to the local athletics club, found the fastest sprinter and then offered him a contract at a professional club. He doesn't seem to have any idea as to what he should be doing on the pitch...
As a West Brom fan very similar but looked Disinterest at times
Much like every other player at sheff u this season
We had him at millwall good player
and now mans gone 20 games without a single goal
What a fine Scottish accent he has!
Yes, the poshest one ive heard 🤣🤣🤣
Talk about Shunsuke Nakamura's tale at Celtic, pal!
I'd love to see that, cracking player
Will definitely make a video about him soon, I loved him when I was growing up!
@@flashbackfootball1367that would be great
At Forest we’ve been blessed with decent youngster and I have to say that Burke wasn’t overhyped, he was a different level.
Stinking the place up at Blues
He's like the guy at 5 a side who can beat every one but goes to 11s and gets found out.
Usual story, a standout player in the youth game is rewarded far too soon. This kid has achieved nothing in professional football but was set for life after his first contract. The game is broken
Currently with us and done absolutely nothing. Quick and strong but confidence seems through the floor. No goals.
how was the season with him since where at the end
Ollie Burke and Ryan Gauld - oh what could have been...
Another great video though 👍
Ryan Gauld is doing fine. Steve Clarke should give him a run in the Scottish team.
@@gordyhydro5774Stevie doesn't rate him and Scotland are well covered in that area . In a couple of years Gauld will be eligible to play for Canada , he's said he'll seriously thank about doing so .
@EmmaM-ky5dj Ryan has real flare, which Scotland will need. It's not all about work rate and running around. That is the minimum.
As a forest fan I was so gutted when he left, in hindsight, thank god XD
Watching him play with Blues this year he just runs around with the ball and doesn’t really do much else
Thats city in general from what i saw
"the lure of Tony Pulis and the West Midlands" love it
What a Burke
You should make a video about Barry Ferguson to be fair.
i dont think you understand he has most likely been told he had no future at RB . thats how football actually works.
Very true that Rodgers leaving derailed him. He was the best player in Rodgers final game in his first spell.
He was terrible at Celtic. As Rodgers said "he had all the tools" apart from a footballing brain. Burke is a great example of how modern football favours the athlete over the footballer
He never should of left forest it was well to early for him he would of been our main man that season he was unbelievably good those few games before leaving for Rb
HAVE left, not of left.
Had pace and fuck all else. Still scored a winner for Scotland, so silver linings.
Joe Worrall played with Burke at Forest. He’s never played for West Brom.
I remember him from Alavés. He hardly played.
He’s an awful
Player at Birmingham currently,The ball
Just bounces off him! No finesse whatsoever! 🤦♂️
Decent
Nothing went wrong, he was bang average.
Disagree, he had massive potential as a youngster.
@@corneliussmiff2773 nope just got found out in higher places.
@@corneliussmiff2773 have you ever watched him?? Up close, not on TH-cam? He was average. He had pace, but no clue on how too use it.
@@corneliussmiff2773 - He had potential because he was quick and strong. People thought "if he could learn to play football, he'd be an incredible player." Unfortunately, he never learned to play football.
Lovely player can’t believe he went to the Baggies and didn’t really produce
This might seem rude to say but it seems that he’s maybe not had the right people around him or maybe his entourage don’t have the right attitude. Rushed/hasty transfers, lack of commitment to learn and grow, failure to learn from past mistakes. Sad because he looked unreal at Forest.
Had he stayed at Forest he’d had developed
Honestly I think he's just the sort of player who was destined to fall off. His whole game was his pace, once you get to the very top level even the slow looking CBs aren't far behind you in a foot race. Happened to me, I looked great in youth football, but as everyone else around me became bigger and quicker I started to look less and less impressive because nobody had taken the time to teach me the fundamentals I would have needed to make it at a decent level. Especially once I wasn't abnormally quick anymore when playing with the older lads. No offense to Forest, but at that time he was a big fish in a small pond, once he got cast out into open waters he got exposed pretty quickly. You can how messy his touch was even in his highlights, which are supposed to be his best moments.
@@wanwandokko he was at forest all his life and they didnt teach him nada
Didnt gers put RB out Europe recently?
Sorry for the pedantry here, but that’s RasenBallsport Leipzig, not Red Bull.
Love the content!
Only because there’s rules against calling it Red Bull, I think we can let him off
@@sweatyhaggis4303 Yeah, absolutely agree.
And my name is Donald Duck
It's a shame that Rodgers felt the urge to join Leicester as Burke is the type of player he'd have been able to coach the shit of.
He was simply not good. Big, strong, fast and terrible tactically. Couldn’t cross and hardly ever looked up when he actually had the ball out wide. The lad earned a fortune out of being quick. Well done him…
If he put as much effort in on the pitch as his Instagram account he’d be a world beater
I was gutted when Forest sold Burke.
Looking at his wiki career my dudes had a better life then 99 percent of the people watching this. Spain! Germany. Celtic. Scotland National and so forth.
No matter how good a player you are. To sign for any team under pullis. Any skill or flair would soon be lost due to his style of kick and run football
Werder geil
looking at his natural size at 17:49 he has the perfect genetics to get into bodybuilding when he retires. I imagine clubs prohibit him from spending too much time in the gym as putting on size works against you when you're reliant on pace.
At Sheffield united he seemed very fast but no end result. A real shame.
This happens with most of these big imposing physically gifted players, Solanke, Loftus Cheek, Burke, Chalobah, Jack Rodwell, Chalobah, Nouble, Ravel Morrison and so many more. These players are gifted with height and strength at a young age, making it very easy to play against other players of the same age. The problem with this is because it's a stroll in the park at the academy level, these types of players often suffer from two problems at professional level. Number one being the work ethic, the smaller and physically lacking players will naturally learn the aspects of the game that are often the most important, this being work ethic. When you take a smaller player they have to do the hard yards and fight for everything in order to match the physically gifted academy players. The second problem is the fact that by the time these types of players reach the age of 21-22 the smaller academy players have all grown by this point and are now somewhat at a level playing field with the years and years of graft and work ethic bedded in them.
Very nicely put. Spot on. Hard work beats talent, unless talent works hard.
Loftus-Cheek is a starter for AC Milan? Not comparable at all
@@robbiewilliams2733 You're missing the point, Loftus Cheek along with Solanke were meant to be the future of chelsea. Both players were tipped to be the next generation of the John Terry & Lampard, British talent going to the very top of the game. Neither did this, Loftus Cheek has landed on his feet with that move to AC Milan. AC Milan while they are historically a huge Football club, they are nothing in comparison to the level they were at 20 years ago. It's easy for someone to use the name AC Milan as an example of huge success, when in actual fact AC Milan have only finished in the top 4 on two occasions in the past 10 years. Loftus Cheek alongside Solanke when you take into account how easy it was for them at Academy level to where they have ended up, they are without doubt flops. They have both ended up playing at the highest level, don't get me wrong just based on that alone they have done fantastic but when you look at what they were tipped to become they have not made that grade by any means.
lol ravel Morrison.. thug
Should have mentioned his salary each time he signed for a new club then you would have another big reason why his career was in decline, obviously made his money far far to young and his hunger disappeared later on. What a waste.
Sheff United fan, when he was with us we could all see he had talent but it was always a question of whether he could be arsed. All he needed was someone to show faith and train him properly, and for him to show more motivation.. sad to see he’s still pin-balling from club to club. What a waste of potential.
I really thought there was a player there but he was shite even in the chanpionship. Can't finish or crass it's just pace.
Mate you saw more in him than I did. At his time at the Lane all I saw was just someone with a lot of speed and absolutely no end product. Specially when Callum Robinson was so much better at Westbrom. God know what Wilder was thinking with that swap.
He's didn't have the mentality simple as that skill gets you so far but the top players have the right mentality
hahaha we had Leipzig's pants down
tbf he was very good as he broke out for us and was yet another player on the long line of successful graduates from Gary Brazil's academy (where both Brennan Johnson and Matty Cash came from amongst others).
just a shame his career fell off a cliff after he left us
Blues fan
Hes similar to Ravel Morrison except its not really an attitude thing but just a lack of awareness. Hopefully Mowbray can squeeze something out of him. I had no idea hes was just 27 as well
#burkethebuilder
He was dire in a Celtic jersey tons of pace but aside from that he was awful hes a bit of a poor mans Maeda
I remeber watching him at the albion, he just had speed, that was all! Wasnt overly impressed by his quality. Have to agree about your summery. Speedboat without a driver.
like rashford
Needed to eat more of those amazing 😆pork pies
Those fees paid - wow 😳
Calling him the Scottish Gareth Bale was most probably the beginning of the end, you need these young kids to concentrate on being the first them, not the next someone else, they never live up too the hype
Also see 'Scottish Messi' and 'Scottish Baggio'.
How do you do your research mate ?
Wikipedia, Transfermarkt, google to read articles and what not and TH-cam!
Now he's just another Alen Halilovic
Too impatient, left too early thinking that was it, maybe a mix between the hype and his talent got the better if him.
I cant say Im gutted especially when players leave the garibaldi too soon, lots in the past couldn't wait to get out of forest, we have players there now who are just showcasing themselves in order to get a different club in the premier league, I personally im disillusioned with forest right now, no matter how good we get, when we have a decent player they always get ripped from us, whenever and wherevever, look at Johnno, one season in the prem? now MGW is gonna go, Murillo, I dont see the point in being in the premier league just to showcase the talent we have
What a shame.😢 I had high hopes for him. I too thought he would be a good player.
That goes to show how an innocent choice can cripple a career.
Would be interesting to see the story of another lost talent though: Jordan Rhodes
You missed one thing
He is shit at football , not a shame at all
I was genuinely excited when he joined Albion, but it was a disaster and it should never have happened. He was never a Pulis player, the club then went on free fall with Pardew and, compared to the other players we had, he was nowhere near. He had pace...and that was it. Zero end product...he just always looks like he gets somewhere and becomes stuck on what to do next. League 1 player at best.
What happened to the Scottish Messi who went to Sporting Lisbon?
Ryan Gauld? The video is already made
Maybe he’s had a good career and people are putting too much thought into it, plenty of players get shipped every year or so and can still be decent
Can't believe he's 27 already. Not going to get any better now and going by some of the comments, he's not even good enough for the Championship.
Only thing him and bale had in common were the ears.
He ended up at Birmingham city didn't he? Isn't that enough of an answer
😂😂😂
League one/two player at best
Idiot enough said.
The Next/Nationality + Messi/Other great player is a curse
A total cancer at Werder Bremen, would go out drinking on the night before critical match days already weeks into his arrival.
Looked decent at times for Millwall… maybe he needs to drop down one league for a year?
I think that maybe league one IS his level unfortunately.
Pace merchant like Daniel James
what could’ve been.
18:46 Worrall never played for West Brom😂