EU4 - What if BOTH ROMAN EMPIRES Existed in 1444?

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  • @TheRedHawk
    @TheRedHawk  3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    What is the next "What if" scenario that you would like for me to explore? Leave a comment here and join The Discord to chat with me and get the save-game if you're a TH-cam Member: discord.gg/ksDjjUhKHd
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    • @samarthmisra6064
      @samarthmisra6064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What if Bharat existed in 1444!

    • @remhawk73
      @remhawk73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You should make a mod with all of these What ifs

    • @hellbergsucks
      @hellbergsucks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      what if the southern slavic tribes went west instead of to the balkan peninsula?

    • @anofsti
      @anofsti 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What if all african and american starting nations was really powerful? Make colonizing hard and see what happens.

    • @hellbergsucks
      @hellbergsucks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anofsti what if anders was its own country, like the enväldesstat of his excellence anders andersson?

  • @VirgoShelter
    @VirgoShelter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +547

    "Castile is starting some colonization of their own"
    Show Scotland in Puerto Rico

    • @monferno1
      @monferno1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      YOU THOUGHT IT WAS CASTILE BUT IT WAS ME, DIO!

    • @DanksterPaws
      @DanksterPaws 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      You mean… Port Beairteach?

  • @Arthur-jx8bm
    @Arthur-jx8bm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +452

    Just love how the Roman Empire immediately allied Ulm, they have their priorities straight

    • @RocketHarry865
      @RocketHarry865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well Ulm is a nice trading center

    • @kys6557
      @kys6557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I wonder if paradox snuck some ai fuckery in for ulm

    • @ibra673
      @ibra673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kys6557 I wouldn’t mind

    • @ibra673
      @ibra673 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kys6557 I wouldn’t mind

    • @LlamasAtMidnight
      @LlamasAtMidnight 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who wouldn’t?

  • @t.g.4355
    @t.g.4355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +717

    Suggestion for a future video: 1444 start with Western Roman Empire (rome), Eastern Roman Empire (byzantium), Holy Roman Empire (hre) and Third Roman Empire (russia) and set them all as historical rivals.

    • @Alexis_H.
      @Alexis_H. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      That's exactly what I was about to say

    • @antonkwanton5620
      @antonkwanton5620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      third roman empire? more like third world empire

    • @GRANFRA99
      @GRANFRA99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Here and western Roman empire have many provinces in common

    • @t.g.4355
      @t.g.4355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@GRANFRA99 wre should have the common provinces in Italy and hre the ones in france and Netherlands

    • @ML-lb7ig
      @ML-lb7ig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@antonkwanton5620 polish cope

  • @tommyk7061
    @tommyk7061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    9:05 "in the world nothing else too out of the ordinary"
    Meanwhile in siberia: ROMAN OB

  • @antoniobuono5501
    @antoniobuono5501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    I would be cool to give each other a restoration of union

    • @TheLibermania
      @TheLibermania 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      The extreme liberty desire would kill that idea.

    • @tywinlannister9391
      @tywinlannister9391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheLibermania no. The West was much powerful. He can triumph

    • @TheLibermania
      @TheLibermania 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@tywinlannister9391 True. But internal fightings cost so much time.
      Plus, who knows how the AI reacts if they have a illoyal subject at 100 % even if there is no war? Maybe they won't declare other wars because there is the possibility of an Independence war.

    • @Testimony_Of_JTF
      @Testimony_Of_JTF 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tywinlannister9391 Not in real life lol

    • @ryanjuguilon213
      @ryanjuguilon213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tywinlannister9391 wht kind of history are they teaching u? Te eastern art was the richest and most populated part. It was the cradle of civilizations, crossroads of eurasian trade. The west was the backwater. Thats h rason it collapsed. The western part was being subsidized by the richer eastern part

  • @cybernetix_1440
    @cybernetix_1440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    1:28 It seems the Aegean sea has turned a slight brown tint, I’m assuming this is because you might have accidentally converted the province to orthodox in the console.

    • @quintiax
      @quintiax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      The fish have seen the light

    • @Angelo-ki7wr
      @Angelo-ki7wr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      thats Atlantis getting converted

    • @SelandraTheTomewormNaga
      @SelandraTheTomewormNaga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      orthodox fish :flushed:

    • @CaptainBalcon
      @CaptainBalcon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's the Aegean Sea

    • @cybernetix_1440
      @cybernetix_1440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@CaptainBalcon Oops! I’ve changed the comment now, thanks for pointing it out.

  • @meatworld4776
    @meatworld4776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    to be fair, rome being unable to conquer scotland is very historically accurate

  • @Giovanni00831
    @Giovanni00831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    Castille began to colonize, actually that's Scotland

    • @TheRedHawk
      @TheRedHawk  3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Yeah I noticed later

  • @howdyciaody
    @howdyciaody 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    No cursed game is complete without protestant Ireland

  • @Toumahitoedits
    @Toumahitoedits 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Western Rome:
    We're...ALIVE!
    Eastern Rome:
    This is probably a genjutsu made by the Ottomans and the Ostrogoths...

  • @dete31
    @dete31 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    If the dev map was in 395, most dev would be in Italy, Greece, Egypt and the area around Carthage, and the east would have more dev

    • @celdur4635
      @celdur4635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      When they split the empire, 80% of the economic power was in the East. Talk about balance, they had to give Carthage to the West as well as much of the Balkans which was the recruiting ground or they were toast. Through a process i don't know, but the Romans claimed was real, at this late stage "recruiting people in the cities for military duty was pointless since they were useless for the tough life of a soldier" And due to massive increase in the power of the aristocrats the fields were tilled by slaves and not roman citizens, and farmers used to be the prime population for recruits, which is why they turned to Mercenaries more and more.
      This is the only plausible explanation i've heard for the fall since Rome alone had 1 million citizens, 500k men, maybe 200k in military age... and they couldn't recruit and form endless armies like in Republican times?... its fishy, unless the whole recruitment system had broken down.

    • @korgalis
      @korgalis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@celdur4635 why would you risk hard life as a soldier if you were provided bread and circus as a roman citizen. There was simply no economic reason for them to join the army, same thing happend in the eastern part,

    • @dragooll2023
      @dragooll2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@celdur4635 Most of income was in the east, simply because it didn't need much garrisons, and the administrative costs were lighter.

    • @celdur4635
      @celdur4635 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@korgalis
      It seems this was the case yes.

  • @ZlewikkTV
    @ZlewikkTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    You should also add Holy Roman Empire there :p

    • @TheRedHawk
      @TheRedHawk  3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      You know I though about it lmao. Maybe next time!

    • @Birobidzhaneiro
      @Birobidzhaneiro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@TheRedHawk Well then Third Rome also can be an option)

    • @danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944
      @danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@Birobidzhaneiro eu4 but all empires that claimed to be successors of Rome exist in 1444.

    • @flazzorb
      @flazzorb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944 problem, the Ottoman Empire was one of them.

    • @danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944
      @danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@flazzorb Give ottomans coastline of Anatolia and make Karaman form Rum while having Byzantines own their weird-ass region I can't remember the name of.

  • @mashroomghost8456
    @mashroomghost8456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Damn man I just realized how much work you put in to create these kind of scenarios, I mean converting and culture converting vast lands like that with console should be exhausting, much love

    • @TheRedHawk
      @TheRedHawk  3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It takes a while to set these up lmao. Thanks for the support!

  • @irmaosmatos4026
    @irmaosmatos4026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    1444 Europe with 1914 borders.
    Make Austria-Hungary just Austria, without the Personal Union, Russia shouldn't have Siberia and the Middle East should have 1914 borders as well, Finland, Tunis, Morocco and Egypt should be vassals of their owners.

    • @odinadeler1835
      @odinadeler1835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Austria-Hungary in 1914 (from 1867 to the disolution of the Austro-Hungarian empire) was a personal union to make people less wanting to revolt because of more autonomy because that was the only way that the Habsburgs were going to be able to rule that area like how in EUIV someone would also release an area as a vasal to not have to deal with as many revolts, so if you wanted 1914 borders it would make more sense with Austria Hungary as a personal union.

  • @rhystaylor9290
    @rhystaylor9290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    What about making every country have only 1 province and have to colonise everything

    • @benpfriem5511
      @benpfriem5511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ...
      Lag

    • @anbersker3356
      @anbersker3356 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats cool

    • @kiwuuspurr1927
      @kiwuuspurr1927 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benpfriem5511 Why? There would be much less lag since each country has only 1 province

  • @bigsealfan9579
    @bigsealfan9579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    You can check the province history in EU4 right? That would tell you how they got Ob

    • @zakaryloreto6526
      @zakaryloreto6526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      also can just do the replay button to see if they conquered anything

    • @БабаЯга-ш7х
      @БабаЯга-ш7х 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      if you go to 6:04 you can see they got some provinces there, prob an accident

  • @MahmutHaydut
    @MahmutHaydut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    WHAT if Uncoşlonized land are a country

  • @daspotato895
    @daspotato895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    1:32 love how you also converted the Agean to Orthodox

  • @Weltenbastler2000
    @Weltenbastler2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Not enough Roman Empires. What if the 2 Roman Empires, HRE and Russia existed in 1444?

  • @kathic6402
    @kathic6402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If I had to guess about Rome colonizing Siberia, I'd say that an event gave them a core on a war enemy over there. In the peace deal they demanded the core be returned.

  • @purpledevilr7463
    @purpledevilr7463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    If you made a map with every acclaimed Roman Empire, it would just be a normal map.

  • @newromanianmappernrm4420
    @newromanianmappernrm4420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Are we all *really* just going to gloss over Revolutionary Korea ruling southern Japan? We are...? Ok then I guess

  • @Letsplaypasi
    @Letsplaypasi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    9:20 was Scotland colonizing, not castile

  • @louisqueneau6140
    @louisqueneau6140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    when there the british isles aren't colonizing colonial eastern america isn't colonized because the chesepeake trade node only goes to the english channel, so it isn't very attractive to AIs with their trade nodes in other places. It's good to see Iroquois form they are a cool native formable

    • @swamidude2214
      @swamidude2214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Friesland was quite active in the colonization game and has acces to the English node, they were third power before the colonies broke away

  • @Podzhagitel
    @Podzhagitel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    someday… “What if the Western Roman, Eastern Roman, Holy Roman, Russian (Third Rome) Empires and the United States (Pax Americana) existed at the same time???”

    • @Podzhagitel
      @Podzhagitel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oh and the Sultanate of Rum (somehow)

  • @hubert8438
    @hubert8438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    12:00 Rome has provinces in Siberia here: 6:15

  • @thetexanhusky
    @thetexanhusky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing Frisian South America is just so weird, and the fact that Red Hawk didn't comment on that (surprised he was baffled that Friesland was the 3rd largest power at 19:44), just wowed me.

  • @mortimersmithsr2522
    @mortimersmithsr2522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best series on youtube!!

  • @perturaboIV
    @perturaboIV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Your guides have helped me so much, any chance you could do livonian order?

    • @TheRedHawk
      @TheRedHawk  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm glad I could help! Yeah I'll probably do the Livonian Order eventually

  • @TheMazorMan
    @TheMazorMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yooooo that was my idea!
    So happy to see you use ideas from the suggestions channel

    • @TheRedHawk
      @TheRedHawk  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always keep an eye out!

  • @madhavsharma4896
    @madhavsharma4896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    What if the usa and ussr were enemies in 1444

  • @pelinalwhitestrake3367
    @pelinalwhitestrake3367 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Puerto Rico: *Bagpipe noises*
    The Red Hawk: Castilians are colonizing...

  • @jon_j__
    @jon_j__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It would be interesting if, in the beginning, you had set the two Roman empires as allies and historical friends (and maybe also given them 100 trust towards each other?) (and maybe also revoked any cores and claims they have on each other?) (and maybe also edit their mission trees so they don't want each others' land?). This would hopefully be good enough to keep them focused outwards, instead of beating each other up.

    • @WeedmanSkirr
      @WeedmanSkirr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and then nothing happens?

    • @thedukeofdeathpt6262
      @thedukeofdeathpt6262 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WeedmanSkirr Personal Unions, maybe?

    • @WeedmanSkirr
      @WeedmanSkirr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thedukeofdeathpt6262 yes!1!1?1

  • @Mrfox-YouTube
    @Mrfox-YouTube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    by giving roman empire 2 provinces you basically gave him all of Mexico, Australia, and Siberia because he probably wouldn't of taken exploration or expansion and maybe Byzantium could of colonized it instead because they did get that pu over Muscovy so they would of gotten siberia most likely but 200 dev isnt nothing byz got kinda trolled in this synario

    • @midgetporn9735
      @midgetporn9735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Replace "of" with "have" and you're good

  • @notyouraveragelink5391
    @notyouraveragelink5391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    In this alternate universe, imagining that the Roman Empire is still administrated the way it was before (for some reason), I like to imagine the Eastern portion deals with the affairs on the Mainland while the West deals with the affairs on its colonies -- though both still hold the original lands they do, with Byzantium having a somewhat higher authority (don't ask questions).
    With this imagination we also ignore the wars that happened between them.
    This is stupid as hell, I know, but I still can't get it off of my head somehow.

  • @arkadiuszrenc1498
    @arkadiuszrenc1498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Idea: what if 3 Roman empires existed (weast+east+united HRE)

  • @crimsonflood1643
    @crimsonflood1643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    at 5:58 u can see they have a province in Siberia so yeah u accidentally gave it to them probably lmao

  • @terrasentheterrarian4084
    @terrasentheterrarian4084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The four roman empire : Western roman empire, Easter roman empire, the failure and the wannabe

  • @Qureas
    @Qureas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "no expansion into scotland"... They built hadrians wall for a reason :P

  • @theo-dr2dz
    @theo-dr2dz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Being born in Friesland it was nice seeing Friesland being the third most powerful nation in the world for a little while. And also nice to see all South America having Frisian culture.

  • @Bobberino22
    @Bobberino22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dang, I’d love to see this scenario again!
    But with a few twists:
    Borders of 450 would be cool, suevic kingdom & visigoths free. No rule over England.
    HRE enabled would make this a super fair fight & great scenario!

  • @arekzawistowski2609
    @arekzawistowski2609 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why you didn't just used "history of province" book to check how they got their Siberian provinces?

  • @gyrostat5211
    @gyrostat5211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    you should do this again but with the holy romans too
    i'd be rad

    • @Prussia1991
      @Prussia1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You would be rad?

    • @gyrostat5211
      @gyrostat5211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Prussia1991 it would

    • @Prussia1991
      @Prussia1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gyrostat5211 😁

  • @RRapierre
    @RRapierre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You should have also reduced development of most of the provinces in the Western Roman Empire, because in the 4th century, most of the west was backwater and the east was generally more developed. That's why the West had more land. The imperial split was roughly equivalent economically for both sides. In 1444, the West would 100% beat the East, since the West can just expand easily into the high-dev but fractured HRE, while the East can only expand into low-dev steppe and desert provinces.

    • @dragooll2023
      @dragooll2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope. They had less income because they needed larger armies.

  • @Templar_
    @Templar_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why does Byzantium own Torontál in Hungary even though it's on the other side of the danube?

  • @MCKevin289
    @MCKevin289 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:20
    I wonder if the Hibernian Order will march around Northern England in green sashes on July the 12th in this timeline.

  • @thadeusgaspar224
    @thadeusgaspar224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "they both supposed to be orthodox" oof. papists aint gonna like that

  • @oblivionrapture1469
    @oblivionrapture1469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I think you need to balance these things more, they should’ve had similar dev

    • @goose9515
      @goose9515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also western Rome having all 3 end nodes in entirety made them rich

    • @bossenes5020
      @bossenes5020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats 1 of the main problems of eu4
      The dev in western europe in comparison to eastern europe and the middle east is very inaccourate
      Even with africa
      Songhai had 10 million inhabitants
      And mali about 20 at 1500
      Morocco 13 million(1600s)
      Portugal had 1 million
      England less than 3
      Or trade and income wise
      The middle east had way more trade income than europe
      And the yearly income of western europe was not better than the east
      The west should get way later buffs when trade with the new world starts and so on

    • @dancm5929
      @dancm5929 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trade value is pretty acurate though, the only innacuracy is that it can only be steered into predetermined directions. But majority of the trade income originates in asia.

    • @rowanmales3430
      @rowanmales3430 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bossenes5020 It's not a problem with EU4. Development isn't supposed to be directly proportional to population without conern with anything else. The map is a fairly good "distribution of power" as it was in 1444. That being said, the dev was completely out of wack for this playthough, but that's because you are bringing entities from a thousand years before into 1444. Ideally, the development would have been rebalanced for whichever year those empires split, which would have resulted in the East being far better off instead. It's not an issue with the game; the game isn't supposed to be played with this context lol.

  • @zohrn_4562
    @zohrn_4562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:18 - that's no Castille...

  • @tomsai1257
    @tomsai1257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    9:20 It's not Castile, it's Scotland !

  • @classiclife7204
    @classiclife7204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun to watch, pure and simple. :)

  • @BooTleg_AristoCrat
    @BooTleg_AristoCrat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Toggurt is The new San Marino

  • @a1phamemes734
    @a1phamemes734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    at 6:02 you can see Rome in Siberia in the corner

  • @purin6792
    @purin6792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Quality content

    • @TheRedHawk
      @TheRedHawk  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the kind words!

  • @saviourofrome2235
    @saviourofrome2235 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what kind of keyboard do you have? it gives nice clicks

  • @jasongonsalves2704
    @jasongonsalves2704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think they'll immediately rival eachother and start death waring each other.

  • @samuelhiatt9338
    @samuelhiatt9338 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My best guess for Roman Ob is that Rome at some point ended up rivaled to Oirat and took the ignore coring distance age bonus, went to war with Oirat, and took one province for no reason.
    Edit: Either that or Oirat or Uzbek at one point got small enough to be vassalized by Rome and then Rome seized land from them and continued colonizing.
    Edit 2: FINAL GUESS Rome at some point briefly vassalized Transoxiana and colonized off of them into Siberia and then they broke free due to being disconnected. This would also explain Transoxiana's random Catholic province.

  • @specil-k
    @specil-k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For another video idea,
    you could do "What if Islam was Unified in 1444" (a.k.a. "What if the Caliphate existed in 1444")

  • @henrymicek4566
    @henrymicek4566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It would be cool to see an ai video like this on some of the mods you have covered like antebellum

  • @damiencosta6471
    @damiencosta6471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m curious how you make these custom scenarios! That’s awesome

    • @tuluppampam
      @tuluppampam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      use console commands to change provinces the way you want
      then switch to spectate mode

  • @boyshan27
    @boyshan27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    9:20 thats scotland

    • @TheRedHawk
      @TheRedHawk  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao you're right

  • @Martiniboy22
    @Martiniboy22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:13 Kosovo 40 dev? but not on Gold/Produktion?

  • @asiancat1648
    @asiancat1648 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally, we can have the Eastern, Western, and Holy Roman Empire all at the same time.

  • @happyslapsgiving5421
    @happyslapsgiving5421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like these should have started as allies, if not in a union.

  • @Valefor_Bahamut
    @Valefor_Bahamut 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know it would take a lot of work but it would be really awesome to see a what if scenario involving Crusader Kings 3 starting maps

  • @heisenstein6392
    @heisenstein6392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That is super unfair. Roman empire has pretty good ideas while Byz ideas are ehhh, not to mention that x3 dev difference 😂. Still a fun what-if nonetheless, though you should've also added the HRE for fun too :P
    Edit: Still curious as to how Western Rome managed to put colonies in Siberia

  • @doof497
    @doof497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did you form Rome without all the required provinces? Did you give them to them and then reannexed the provinces with Byzantium?
    I am curious as I would love to have a small rome conquer the world.

    • @doof497
      @doof497 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also 100 years more and the west would most likely have conquered all of the east (That was roman in real life)

  • @antonkonig4314
    @antonkonig4314 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi guys I have a question: In custom nation, how can you higher the point limit?

  • @kevinhartmemes3821
    @kevinhartmemes3821 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:49 you can see that the Aegean sea is Orthodox.

  • @irgendwer3610
    @irgendwer3610 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:40 you converted the greek sea to orthodox aswell, not even the sea people are free from the missionaries

  • @juliusaurelius9815
    @juliusaurelius9815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Big epic bro

  • @Zorc620
    @Zorc620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really the "historical" position would've been for both halves to be Catholic, not Orthodox. Papal supremacy was taught in documents submitted to the generally recognized ecumenical councils by popes, and no objection was raised by the councils. 2nd Nicaea even overturned another supposed council as illegitimate because Rome hadn't approved it - which was never done over any other patriarchate being absent from a council.

  • @thatguyproductions4077
    @thatguyproductions4077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4th vid of asking for You should do a “What if Islam never took off as a caliphate” and have it so most of Arabia is under an Islam state, but Persia is zoroastrian and still strong, Anatolia is divided up between the Sultanate of Rum, Byzantium, and a few other minors, and that Byzantium still owns greece, Macedonia and Bulgaria, but Egypt is still under islam but in a seperate country from the Caliphate. And also the Levant should have a Cristian Israel and Lebanon, but has a few Turkic ( north and northeast) and islamic (south and southeast) kingdoms surrounding them. One more thing is that the Steppe regions should still be like a tengri faith from the mongols. I think it would be a cool game.

  • @mertbayulger620
    @mertbayulger620 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Certified Bing Chilling Video

  • @ghostyghost8318
    @ghostyghost8318 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    D-did you convert the Aegean sea itself to orthodox...

  • @anishlahiri5515
    @anishlahiri5515 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you create this ?

  • @ragael1024
    @ragael1024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty sure provinces were not so developed in the West back in 395 as in 1444, reason why the West is so strong.

  • @Tho-ugh-t
    @Tho-ugh-t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it would be cool if they made a thing where when a big nation annexes a lot of small/ medium countries in a geographic region, the rest of the nations would get an event saying for example spanish threat, and they would have an option to join on a coalition/ offensive war to try and take out the bigger guy. This would be ofset by relation and internal situation of the countries attacking

    • @swamidude2214
      @swamidude2214 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are allready coalitions, its just to easy to manage those variables.

    • @Tho-ugh-t
      @Tho-ugh-t 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@swamidude2214 truces wouldnt matter

  • @someguysomeone3543
    @someguysomeone3543 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Forgot that eu 4 has mainly just the 1444 year. Maybe use a mod for an earlier start date to make a what if scenario. Like for example: what if achaemenid empire existed in 1200. Or unified Germanic tribes in 5.

  • @DatAlien
    @DatAlien 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Weren't the Canaries under Roman controll?

  • @fem530
    @fem530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What about Modern Europe borders in 1444
    Only countries in Europe so no Turkey but can do Russia only to the Urals

    • @crazyraptor2907
      @crazyraptor2907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No russia 🤮🤮🤮

    • @pisaks6782
      @pisaks6782 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No Russia 😍😍😍

    • @syro33
      @syro33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, Turkey can have Istanbul. That part is Europe

  • @ragael1024
    @ragael1024 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha cool video. And now i know what i'd do if i could go back in time: disable the HRE, or kill it before its inception. Not Charlemagne, he good. I mean AFTER. Idk... in the 900s?

  • @ryanhodges2201
    @ryanhodges2201 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    next time we should have all 3, West, East, and a Fully formed HRE

  • @Admiral45-10
    @Admiral45-10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if all countries with colonial desire (France, entire British Isles, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands region, Western Germany, entire Iberia and Morrocco) were united?

  • @lindoa307
    @lindoa307 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Accidently gave roman empire 2 provinces in Siberia. it really hurt in the ;later wars as you see end game with Siberia being occupied. it split the Byzantium forces sending them in the wrong direction. i wonder if that happened in all the wars. something small like that could be devastating. AI has a tendency to focus on sending troops to small enclaves like that.

    • @rowanmales3430
      @rowanmales3430 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Luckily, it almost certainly didn't change the result of their conflict in any serious way. With that much dev difference, Western Empire taking slightly better military ideas, and Byzantium's REALLY bad luck with it's capital placement, it didn't do anything. In an ideal world, Byzantium would relocte their capital to the other side of the Bosphorus Straight. If they then managed to maintain ship supremacy by the straight (a lot more possible at least) then it could have had non-negligible changes.
      Actually, you could even argue that giving the Western Empire interests in the Far East dragged them into a few long and pointless wars where they might otherwise have attacked Byzantium. We don't fully know which way it helped due to the dev increase being a rounding error and not of consequence.

  • @carlosturris9935
    @carlosturris9935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If the Roman Empire went to war with Byzantium then gave them a few provinces in Italy they could start a coalition with the rest of Europe which is big brains

  • @RevanLegend
    @RevanLegend 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why you just dont check the province history to learn how Roman Empire got into Siberia?

  • @Tdude2020
    @Tdude2020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if Ireland were to have a colonial empire and mixed with a bunch of cultures?
    Greenland, Canada, Hawaii, Indonesia, Australia, Japan, etc.

  • @Delta_47
    @Delta_47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Suggestion: Eu4 but the Americas are already colonized

  • @crqf2010ruler
    @crqf2010ruler 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:20 Ah yes, Castillian (Scottish) Porto Rico...

  • @jerzusaddenda9581
    @jerzusaddenda9581 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why Byzantine Empire didn't start with Naples?

  • @AsanpiCh
    @AsanpiCh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you make everyone in the game a stateless society for a future video? That might be highly entertaining.

  • @syro5775
    @syro5775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this game because it shows Circassia my ancestral homeland 😭😍

  • @marcopolo___
    @marcopolo___ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They wouldnt expand into scotland cuz of the hadrian wall

  • @zigzaggymac
    @zigzaggymac 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am just now watching this and so confused how Castille exists?

  • @adiletbeyshekeyev
    @adiletbeyshekeyev 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello! How to dev provinces with army tradition?

  • @brianlempa
    @brianlempa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alternative Title: What if Castile was an OPM

  • @gannonpatton2858
    @gannonpatton2858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you make these custom scenarios?

    • @lorrdy7640
      @lorrdy7640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      console commands

    • @TheRedHawk
      @TheRedHawk  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Console commands

  • @Егор-е9ц9л
    @Егор-е9ц9л 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now do all 4 roman empires with the HRE and the Russian Third Rome