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- The Vice Presidential suggestion to just get a double barrel shotgun for home defense deserves some discussion and demonstration, I believe.
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Imagine breaking into some old guys house and hear “Hickok45 here” in the corner...
😂😂😂😂
Priceless.
Lol 🤣
That's what I'm saying before I shoot an intruder.
Well Hickok45 is 6'8". so the sound would be coming from above. That might be a clue.
" My greatest fear is that one day someone will break into my house and i wont know which one of my guns to kill them with "
Bilzerian much?
+Vanquish My greatest fear is it will be winter and the ground will be too hard to dig.
Gregor Pajnkiher That is who i got the quote off yes. Your point?
+Vanquish nothing man, just wanted to point that out lol.
+Vanquish Hehehehe:)
I like how he mentioned that 30 round mags are standard capacity and not high capacity. So many people INCLUDING gun people call them high capacity and they aren't...
I mean it really depends what you specify as high like for the military that would be normal but for civilians who don’t live in America like in Canada that is high-capacity
@@owencrofford9152 my best friend was army for 7 years and they carried seven 40 rnd mags on them.
@@owencrofford9152 Very right. Definitely relative. Unfortunately one of our two political parties, the one who seems to be dominating the media and even the culture war at the moment....2024 will bring big news... sadly people are going to kill each other no matter how it goes but especially if a certain someone becomes prezo..
In my state 10 has been standard for awhile... ask your average non gun owner and they will likely say that is too high. People want to bring it down to 5, have no doubts. And than 10 will be high capacity. They will try that after falling to make semi autos banned. They will be slow to figure out that a 10+ rd bolt action is just as dangerous as a 5 shot semi auto. see many people going to lever guns if semi autos are booted.
I use a flamethrower for home defense
Very smart! So safe!XD
They can't break into your home if there's no home to break into
i use a rocket launcher
How many homes have you had in your lifetime.Hey ! don't tell me you rent. Lol
Use a minigun
Here in Australia, NO one can own a firearm for the purpose of self defence. If we have a permit to use a firearm for pest control or farming we cannot use a firearm for self defence. NO ONE can ever use a firearm for self defence in the home or anywhere else. The Howard Govt took this right away from everyone. They have gone even further, we are not allowed to defend ourselves in our own homes either, unless the force is equal to or just above what the attacker is using against us. You cannot stab someone if they don't have a weapon for instance. Just this week a alleged home invader, thief died while in the process of robbing a house. The alleged owner and a friend defended themselves against this man and he died while being held by them before the police arrived. The owner has been charged with manslaughter for this mans death. Allegedly the home owner only used there hands on this man but still they are in serious trouble. The intruder had just been released from jail for break and enters committed previously. I urge all Americans to stand up for your current rights because we have lost all of ours and the criminals have all the rights while the home owner has none. Legal gun owners here are treated like criminals, we have our gun safes inspected every couple of years. The police try to entrap you during this process. If for example someone that owes you money says you threatened them the police will come and take all you firearms and your licence to keep them. They don't check to see if it is true, they mostly side with the non arms owner. Our country is being run by the left wing media and it is being ruined. All of our homes and businesses are completely open to the criminal element and we can't do a thing about it.
+Aussie Cockie A while ago in sweden an old man using a double-barreled shotgun shot and killed two kids from his window, that one of them had broken. Currently being on trial for two counts of murder.
Not being allowed to use more force than the situation calls for is simply common sense!
Come back and cry more when you're speaking on behalf of the victims rather than the killers.
***** exactly. Which is why people should not have guns for home defense in the first place. They are not reliable enough not to kill their fellow man even without guns!
Unless you live in a shithole that would rather see everybody armed than cared for, you would not even need a gun to defend against home invaders. Remember the cold war? It did not end by getting bigger nukes.
***** I've read it again. Now what? What is it that you need me to elaborate on?
I'm willing to go the extra mile if i can't get through to you, but will you?
So please since i'm 'unable to reason', please tell me exactly what it is you need me to elaborate on for you.
Cause that blanket statement of me being unable to be reasoned with is a very common and lazy excuse to back out of a losing argument in my opinion.
Then again, hell. Maybe that's my error! Maybe i can't be reasoned with since you can't find an angle to bully me! That would make sense, considering the TONE of your latest message. Now DOESN'T it?
+Khunark Then move to Sweden . If you don't like guns don't buy them. It's not that hard not to buy them or support groups that do. But don't try to strip people of their natural rights ,because you say "we don't need them " you aren't speaking for the whole population. I wonder how genocides would have turned out if the perpetrated had firearms . Very differently . And you see how the cold war turned out there was no nuclear Holocaust maybe because bigger nuclear weapons actually saves lives .
Berzerk Troll well yeah, lives are saved by weapons if the other side already has weapons. it might be the only option, but should never be the first.
what solved the cold war was not getting more weapons though, it was solved by diplomacy to mutually decrease the amount.
likewise, there must exist a dialogue to regulate weapons on the local level in order to reduce the amount in circulation.
refusing to open up for that dialogue, say by grounds of 'rights violations', only means that one likes weapons more than the security they are supposed to bring.
Hickok45. You were doing it wrong with the shotgun. My uncle Joe says all you have to do is fire two blasts outside the house from a balcony. I didn't see a balcony or a house in your video. You would have hit your target if you were on the balcony attached to a house. My uncle promised me this works.
Lol
LMFAO X'D
Uncle Joe, He is a old drunk LOL. So glad he's not in office anymore.
If you notice he did not fire at a man sized target from 7 yards...
@@dquillen1 And don't forget to yell "GET OFF MY PROPERTY!"
My choice for home defense is the phased plasma rifle in the forty watt range.
If they don't have those, I'd just take da uzi nine millimeter.
.950 JDJ is my personal favorite for home defense.
Dorm forget the spas 12 and the long slide 1911
AR-18 is pretty good too.
personally, i use my BFG9K
That was a dumb line. Any T-800 worth his titanium would not go for an Uzi in place of a plasma rifle. He'd take an AR-15.
12 gauge AR15... Problem solved
+Evan Mixon Genius
An AR 15 with an under barrel shotgun attached
So something like a Saiga?
AA-12
That’s called an AA-12
Where gun-owners are educated on firearms: Experience, gun clubs, ranges, actual research into what they're shooting.
Where anti-gunners are educated on firearms: Hollywood, TV shows, liberal columns written by someone who has never even fired a gun.
Sooooooooooooooooooo true
***** Hickok isn't really the other side of the story. He mainly just shoots guns in his backyard. Try watching the TH-cam channel "AmidsTheNoise" and start with his first vid. He makes some very good points. He's a good example of our side of the argument. ColionNoir is another good one. AmidsTheNoise is good for facts and statistics with legitimate sources and ColionNoir is good at arguing against the culture and logic of gun control. I'd recommend those two to start with. If you want to do heavy reading, you can visit gunfacts.info or read some of John Lotts' literature on the subject. Many of his books are 400-pages of facts, graphs, analytics, and statistics against gun control backed up by reputable, non-biased sources. I used to be pro gun control so I do understand where you're coming from.
bigstabby
Cosmic gets no sympathy or understanding from me! I spend most of my time wishing people like him would drop off the face of the fucking earth. How can you possibly reason with someone who's Pro-Gun-Control? Their very mentality is emotion-based, not fact-based. I absolutely despise gun-control freaks. If I don't stop now, I'll start a rant. So that's my 2 cents.
Vladpryde haha! You're awesome, I can tell. Definitely agree with you.
Vladpryde
"How can you possibly reason with someone who's Pro-Gun-Control?" "I spend most of my time wishing people like him would drop off the face of the fucking earth".
Because those people WON'T simply drop off the face of the Earth. If you exercise a degree of intellect on them, you can educate them. I used to be pro-gun-control. People change, the more they learn. He's probably pro-gun-control because he's convinced it saves lives. It's wrong, but that doesn't make him inherently wrongful. We both believe in the greater good but by different means. You only make things worse by widening the divide, rather than opening dialogue. I've convinced nearly a dozen people since 2012, by presenting a dialogue with facts and reasoning ability. What good does it do to strengthen their pro-gun-control beliefs by refusing diplomacy and inflaming adversity? You're doing just as much of a disservice to the pro-gun-rights side as they are. Your wishing and despising does no good for your own side and actually weakens it.
Remember kids when a criminal has a gun and it is illiegal just remind him that guns are illegal and he would just walk away. Thats how it works... right?
Especially when they see gun free zones, they’ll turn and run in a hurry!
Simply get a piece of chalk and draw a circle around you, then declare it your safe space! xD
Don't get an AR15 for home defense.
Get two. Dual wield for quad accuracy!
RALLIED ROUND THE FAMILY
WITH A POCKET FULLA SHELLS
+Big Red Studios LMAO I thought the same thing when he said that!
Thought of the same thing
Ha, figured I was the only one who though that!
lol same
Ughuaaa! With a pocket fulla shells!
A double better shotgun is way better for home defense. Just walk outside on your porch and fire two blasts in the air and that is all you need. you dont need an assault rifle. just go outside and fire all your ammo out of the shotgun.
Uncle Biden is such a genius!
The AR-15 is not an assault rifle. Assault rifles can go to full automatic. The AR-15 is a semi-automatic rifle with a mean look. Looks don't mean diddly-squat when it comes to being dangerous. Any good hunting rifle has the same capabilities as an AR-15 and many are far more powerful. Are you against hunting rifles? Many hunters use the AR-15.
Kitty Hawk you obviously did not catch the sarcasm. that is what our vice president said in an interview about ar15s. i have an ar15 and i know it is not an assualt rifle.
Brandon_ 7.62x39
Yeah I'm from the mid-west...allot of dry humor there, I'm not a "pro" when it comes to its use but given how much dry and insanely subtle humor our friend Hickok45 uses I figured it would be the best choice to use sarcasm to go along with the theme of the video and not give away too many details about good ol' Uncle Biden's firearm knowledge.
Kitty Hawk
Assault is a behavior, punishable by law. Guns don't assault people. People do. I think we are on the same page.
I wish the comment section was filled with AR-15 vs shotgun debates instead of a bunch of arrogant Brits who think they're going to convince a predominately pro-second amendment audience that we don't need firearms to protect ourselves.
534jungle Please do. I want guns.
I’m glad we rebelled.
Ah just what I was looking for
You don't need guns for self defense, just set up a claymore facing toward your front door with a trip wire attached to the door handle. Way more stylish.
Or just get a sword and a shield and there you go.
Uncle Buck Or a sword attached to a lever that swings across the door frame effectively and silently decapitating an intruder. You could sleep peacefully without being interrupted by an explosion. That'd be something to wake up to in the morning though. You're front door is wide open while a decapitated corpse is lying on the floor and some coyotes are having breakfast.
88SLLS
Yeah and if you sleep in too long on a Saturday you won't have to set your alarm because the smell will wake you up!
Comment made me laugh so hard haha
charlesvan13
Of course I'm joking, but didn't realize setting booby traps was illegal. Does that only apply to explosives or bear traps too?
0:30 "outback with my shotgun, with a pocket full of shells."-*Rage against the machine tone*
Haha way to butcher the lyrics. It's "I'm rollin' down Rodeo with a shotgun" which is one song. And, "rally round the family with a pocket full of shells" on a completely different song.
Jacob Gee fambly*
Agreed the AR-15 is an excellent choice! I think I'll go out and buy one..oh wait I live in NY State where they are illegal...
Try Texas bro.
Someto1
I wish man...too hard to move right away sometimes. Working on getting to a free state though lol
they are illegal in NY? or just a magazine restriction? I do not care enough to look up the law.
Brandon_ 7.62x39 all "assault rifles" are illegal in NY
Brandon_ 7.62x39
I don't know if you remember the '94 Assault Weapons Ban but its pretty much that except worse. Instead of 2 "assault features" its now one "assault feature". According to the infinitely wise Prince Andrew Cuomo and his retched full blown communist fairy godmother Sen. Feinstein an assault feature is a pistol grip, adjustable stock, detachable magazine, flash hider, foreward pistol grip for a non-shooting hand, and some other bullshit. I can't even believe I just typed that because it felt so stupid...I think my IQ just dropped by 35 points just typing that. God I hate these politicians.
EDIT: So now all those people who said "No one is coming to take your guns" I laugh at them and if anyone says it now they are lying or a part of the problem. I was literally 5 days from getting a brand new AR15 as my Christmas gift but then the pond scum Cuomo took advantage of dead kids after Sandy Hook and that dream was ruined. I mean I had no problem finding a billion other semi-automatic rifles that do essentially the same thing but I had wanted an AR15 since I was 12, I used to read up on how it worked, who used it, etc. as a kid, I always felt guilty and was cautious living in a liberal environment but now I realize how misplaced that was. So there's my sad story, can't wait to get out of here. Until I have the resources to cut loose from the grips of what I have here and the state I'll just enjoy my 1/3rd of a 2nd Amendment right I guess! Haha.
I just use my old A5 browning. I'm from Australia and im not Allowed to own a gun for self defence but if the government have a problem come get me.
+Cj Ihave the same problem, I´m from Germany. I have a trained dog! So I don´t need to rack the slide for worning, he attack without annoucement!
+Cj Same as Canada, no "self defense" as a reason to have a gun. But you can use it for wildlife defense. My 45-70 is for intruding bears...
+Roy J yes same with some states in Australia, but only for wildlife defence
+Cj Government employees should have the same restrictions as the common citizen. They should only be allowed to shoot animals in self-defense. You know, we have to make everyone equal in the Marxist utopia.
I lost a good friend who was murdered after being robbed last week. The criminals had unregistered weapons when they were caught fleeing the next day. No matter how hard you try to rid this nation of weapons, people will always get their hands on them, especially criminals. If all guns are banned, it's a lucrative opportunity for black markets. The only effective result after enforcing gun control will be taking the guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens. If you think I was making this up, search robbery/murder case in Richmond, VA.
Exactly. Also, people see this term "registered" used on TV and in some states. Nobody in most states have ANY registered firearms. None of mine are "registered" and nobody in Tennessee that I now of has a "registered" firearm, unless maybe an NFA select fire firearm.. Firearms registration is the first step to confiscation, which is why we do not allow it in the Free states of this country.
hickok45 know*
Most private gun ownership was banned in the UK in 1997 - we said at the time if this happened then ONLY criminals would have guns - since that date the number of shootings in the UK has ONLY increased.
What race were the murderers?
Regarding "What race were the murderers?" criminals that commit murder are of EVERY race, it is stupid to judge purely on skin color - but the type of person that I might shoot stands out for a combination of reasons.
The AR15 is a wise choice for home protection simply because it's a weapon that anyone in your family can learn to use easily,
but not quite as easily learned as learning how to use the double barrel 20. Someone with very little gun experience will reliability operate the shotgun before they do the AR
Thanks for sharing that. I have a handgun that I thought would be fine for personal defense in the rare chance I might need it. Then I went to the firing range and was quickly surprised at how extremely difficult it was for a novice to hit a target (even come near the target) at only 25 yards. I was also very surprised at the recoil that a small handgun had, they definitely don't show that on TV. So I couldn't imagine trying to use that accurately in a high stress situation of a home invasion by an intruder or multiple intruders. Then I tried the shotgun, and felt a little more confident in my capabilities as I was relying on the spread to take care of it. After seeing this demonstration and the difficulty to get a target, I am definitely glad I took some time with the AR. Anyone can dismiss this as unnecessary, but if you were to put yourself in the shoes of someone in that stressful of a situation, I completely appreciate what you are saying. Shooting a target while you are calm and concentrating is EXTREMELY difficult, so I can't even imagine fumbling with shells and trying to aim accurately in a dark home while scared out of your wits! People that are under the influence of all these crazy drugs out there will do anything, those are the ones that I am concerned about. To each his own, but thank you for taking the time to demonstrate.
I keep an m1a by my couch, a .357 in my bathroom drawer and a single shot 12 gauge by my bed. I grew up with guns laying around the house so it feels very uncomfortable not having one within arm's reach
anon amous as long as the kids or even an unresponsable adult can't get to it thats the best way to stay safe you never know these days
Hunter Remington I rarely have people over, so if I know someone's coming over they all go out of site... but still within reach
i feel you. i made a holster for the side of my bed
I would just worry about someone breaking in and helping themselves to my guns when I wasn't there to stop them.
Some people in my family ( we are from Brazil of course) had some nice .38 SPL revolvers and some 12GA double barrels , man , as a kid , I played a lot with it , I didn't have a baseball bat , so I just used the shotgun as a bat and man ... I was good at backyard baseball as a kid , I even hit the neighbor's cat while he was walking in the walls
Biden told people that you don't need an AR and that your better off with a "good old fashion double barrel shotgun". Hickoks killin that BS theory.
He rallies round the family 0:32 Got a pocket full of shells
Having been in Law enforcement I get asked this question a lot, i've talked extensively with guys in Elite groups within our military, numerous SWAT officers, etc...
I have experience with both weapons , I will say that wholeheartedly I believe the AR is superior to the Shotgun in just about every aspect when it comes to home defense .
I feel too many focus on the raw power of the shotgun as a reason to select it over the AR , and the myth about hearing the racking noise and the bad guys go scurrying is complete BS.
That being said here are some advantages (perhaps overlooked) the AR15 has over the Shotgun
1) Easier to fire one handed (in the event the primary operator is injured)
2) Easier to manipulate (reload etc..) one handed as well
3) Barrel can be rested upon a surface , where as with certain shotgun models such as pump you have to manually rack the slide to chamber another shell, especially if this is taking place one handed
4) Can engage more threats than a shotgun without having to reload
5) AR's are generally shorter and more maneuverable than most shotguns barring Bullpup configs
6) In the case of pump shotguns, threats can be addressed faster with an AR
And most important of all
7) In the event the primary operator of the AR isn't able to continue to use the weapon, the recoil of most AR15 rifles is tame enough where even an adolescent could effectively fire the weapon. Not so much with a 12 or even 20 gauge
Oh yeah? Well, in California, we have a "10 rd mag"
Take that.
BigCaucasoid at least thats what you tell people ;-)
Yeah, This Spring was awfully short, *wink wink"
BigCaucasoid in Canada we have a 5 rd rule... except for .22 there unlimited depending on the gun as long as the mag can't be put into a pistol .. we do have loopholes that'll let us have 10 rounds in ar15 mag receiving rifles.. and handguns are 10 rds no matter what . It's bullshit here
BigCaucasoid And now the eternally tyrannical democrats in NJ want to endanger the lives of the law abiding by reducing us to 5 rounds.
Yeah. You have "a" 10 round mag. That way when the cops come to find out what happened you can hide all the real mags under the couch and empty a few rounds from the 10
when he said "pocket full of shells" I started singing rage against the machine
this is why america will never be invaded
America has been invaded by whites, they decimed indians.
now whites are being phased out by hispanic and blacks.
according to the definition you give to an invasion, it's already done or in progress...
we are always the invader of someone else....
xenomorphelv426 lol
xenomorphelv426 well black population has remained static. Thanks planned parenthood. Am I right?
xenomorphelv426 You should be a little more historically accurate, first it was the Irish, then Vikings ,then spnish, and then the Brits.. To say 'whites' doesn't do justice to how independently successful those cultures were with their ability to traverse the oceans and still have enough life left in them to stake a claim in the tug-of-war on this continent.
texascoaster 92 That’s because you read too much facebook propaganda. No one is being invaded.
As someone that has never owned a gun, this is *exactly* what I was looking for.
It's a great sport, and these things can save your life.
Only downside is that once you start building a wishlist for guns, you become poor for the rest of your life.
Lol
Me too. Single female and just purchased a townhouse. Looking into buying a shot gun.
@@2jcward try that 38 special s&w model 60 revolver with plus p ammo or standard ammo its cheaper this is a classic revolver easy to use , easy to clean,and very good for protection just be wise and keep it away from kids hide it in a safe place ,, and also if you like dogs a pitbull in the house ,,for sure now you have double protection...in your home ...take care God bless..
This guy is an idiot!
If the person is trained somewhat with the shotgun its a devastating weapon. As a retired police officer we routinely trained shooting at ranges from 5 yards out to 25 with 00 buck and slugs out to 50 yards. We shot from lo and high ready positions with the 00 buck without aiming. I'll take a shotgun any day of the week in a home setting where intruders might break in. Aiming is a luxury the homeowner may not have time to do. Of course the more open the choke the better it is in tight quarters and inside residence encounters at short distances. Additionally while 00 buck would have greater penetration, shotgun loads come in a variety of 4, 5,6, etc etc which greatly enhance the strike potential. At short distances they will disable an intruder as well or better than 00 buck.
The AR-15 shines for multiple round capability and accuracy at extended distances. Unfortunately they require pin point aiming unless you subscribe to the " spray and pray " philosophy of home defense. With few exceptions I would not advise someone to engage in following an intruder(s) outside and at distances where the AR-15 would be the better choice. The AR-15 would require more training than the shotgun in most instances and would not be the weapon of choice for a semi skilled or less homeowner. The simplicity of a short double barreled shotgun is hard to beat.
Bottom line for me : Shotgun in the home. Ar-15 outside.
Nate Ngzcaz Here's another thing as well... if the .223 misses... it's gonna go through many layers of drywall & insulation. At least a few rooms... like where your loved ones could be...
" My greatest fear is that one day someone will break into my house and i wont know which one of my guns to kill them with
Love the comparison video! Ironically, my brother owns an AR and I own a Stoeger Coach Gun. Both are beautiful, useful tools considering their respective strengths.
In Australia semi-auto rifles are heavily restricted and basically not available to the average gun owner. Handguns are also a massive pain to get licences for. We also usually don't have many armed home invasions with multiple perpetrators. In that circumstance, a double barrel shotgun which is very easy to get on a Category A licence (same as an air rifle) will be the most practical.
The various accessories for the AR allow it to be configured to accommodate people with various disabilities. Also, if someone has difficulties changing a mags, a 50 round drum can solve that problem! I wonder if it would work to sue California under the Americans with Disabilities Act for not allowing people to own AR-15's? If nothing else people with disabilities should qualify for one. So if you get an AR prescription from your doctor, does that mean it's covered by Obama care?
*****
I am aware they are still sold in CA. I saw some at my local outdoor outfitters. With a 10 round "bullet button" magazine, it might as well not be an AR anymore. Detachable magazines and higher capacity magazine options are one of the things that make the AR what it is. As for the AK, if you are limited to a 10 round fixed magazine; might as well just get an SKS. In that situation I would rather have the gun designed to use a fixed magazine rather than a gun made stupid just to get around stupid laws.
So as long as I continue to live in CA, I wont be owning any modern sporting rifles. But I have been eying the SKS and M1 Garand. I really wish I had picked up an SKS when they were cheaper and easier to find.
Hahaha an AR prescription. Is it covered by insurance?
here is my opinion when it comes to home defense on shot guns and ar's any gun can kill you, i shouldnt be limited on how i can protect my self or my family. second, some people dont understand you shoot different when your adrenaline is up, and you are scared. two shots from a double barrel and you miss both that could be your life. or a 30 round mag. ill take my chances with my ar
Alright. I have a cop friend telling me I need an AR platform. I've been telling him I don't need one because I have a Mossberg pump. There's nothing that pump won't do that the AR can do in a real life scenario and it will be more capable than an AR in a close range situation. That's me. I have a lot of experience with shooting. My wife, however? She is familiar with the AR platform. The guage is hard for her because she is small. A round of 00 buck will rock her onto her heels. She is only about 130#. 00 buck will leave her standing on her rear foot. She is not a shooting enthusiast so this has opened my eyes. Thank you
Hickok45, I like you because you stay away from politics. Please stay that way.
We'll always stay away from the stupid party politics; however, we'll always have those freedom haters, dictator wannabes, and Bill of Rights haters on our radar. We're about enjoying and spreading the joy of the shooting sports; we cannot totally ignore those whose mission is to thwart that. By and large, we stick to the guns, though.
If one stays 100% out of politics, they are generally the people who have no backbone or care what is happening around them. If you dont care about the ak74 ammo ban, thus reducing that rifle to uselessness. Or the m885 ban that is upcoming, which are both political issues, how can you be a member of the gun culture?
Everyone has own policy. Even those who do not realise that. Everyone elaborates procedure based on the policy. And everyone is a loyal executor of the procedure, because he is loyal to the policy, that was used to design the procedure :).
It is always the same with any people. It is the same principle of personal, family, company, corporate, military or state management. If you declare no policy, you are not a man who is going to survive.
hickok45 Yup, ditto for the non partisan comments. I love your common sense and fun videos...but that being said, I can not believe you have actually shot a .223 ball round from 10 feet away through drywall and 2x6 studs. Do a video on that. If you are very lucky, you will hit more than one stud, or a load bearing wall, and perhaps a nail or 2 on the way...but home construction dictates, it will most likely be drywall all the way. You can punch a hole through drywall with a pen, so imagine how far a .223 round will travel? Kids room, garage, neighbours house...you get the idea. Best home defence? Dogs and lighting. They will pick on the next house.
Danny Bumpkins Seems unwise to me to shoot anything but birdshot indoors. Drywall takes the punch right out of it, even from a twelve gauge. But yeah, dog and lighting (ie keeping yourself from being a target in the first place) sounds wise.
Here in CT we'll most likely be outgunned. If you use a rifle anyway. The standard mag is illegal now. If only criminals would play fair. Thank god for the shotgun.
next they take away will be shotgun...
1 0 r o u n d s
0:33 - "They rally 'round the family! With a pocket full of shells."
also if you find yourself in court the guy with the wood furniture on his gun is going to get off on self defense way more often than the guy with the "scary black military 'salt rifle"
95 pounder women can handle the AR-15 fairly easier ...
I love your real world reviews, thanks for what you do. Keep up the good work!!!
"You don't wanna be out-gunned..."
California obviously wants people who follow the law to be that way.
It's all good though, because California also doesnt care when people break the law, hence their status as a sancuary state.
If you're ever there with a pile of scary black guns, pretend it's racist to confiscate the blacks you're harbouring.
Not gonna lie the shotgun still has sentimental value
Well, in Canada, we are way to kind to shoot intruders. We tend to invited them in for coffee and cookies.
I don't know, I feel like an AR is kind of overkill for the purposes of home defense. Does anyone really need 30 rounds in a magazine to kill a home invader? I doubt anyone would need to lay down suppressing fire on a common thug probably blazed out of his mind.
Plus, depending on where you live (such as an urban environment like an apartment complex), wouldn't a 5.56mm blast its way through a couple of walls if you miss? That seems like a safety hazard to me.
I'd assume a pistol with anywhere from 6 to 17 or so shots could be just as effective (not to mention more maneuverable) at the range a home invasion would occur at. If a guy can't kill what he's aiming at by at least shot 6, he probably isn't qualified enough to own a gun in the first place.
A shotgun is not enough, I agree, but an AR seems excessive IMO. Not trying to get political here, just trying to work out the logic in it.
***** Nobody who has ever been in a deadly encounter says he wishes he'd had less ammo at his disposal. All the old myths about never needing more than four or five shots if one knows how to shoot are just that, myths. Actual shootings often reveal that even experienced people under stress will miss often and shoot many more rounds than they even realize. A dynamic situation of a home invasion is nothing like shooting targets on a range. I'd want a hundred rounds in my firearm if it were practical to carry it. Also, 5.56 rounds, if hollow points or some of the new self defense rounds, will penetrate fewer walls than most handgun rounds. The sheer velocity causes the rounds to break up after a few walls. But yes, they are probably going to go through at least one wall with no trouble, just like any handgun round.
***** 00 Buck and most handgun rounds (9mm and up) will punch right through walls. Using something like XM193 out of a rifle will greatly lower the chances of over penetration as it will begin to tumble and fracture on impact. That's what I keep loaded in my M&P15 for home defense, as the houses here are only about three feet apart from one another. Home invasions are usually carried out by a group of people. Do I need 30 rounds (plus the other 30 round mag clamped to my rifle)? Probably not. But, I have it if I do need it. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. That being said, I also have an 870 loaded with 7 rounds of 00 Buck plus 5 on the side saddle. It's good to have options. Like hickok said, no one who has ever been in a gunfight ever wished for less ammo.
hickok45 You've convinced me to get an LMG for home defense.
A pistol is a last resort gun. I would go to the 12 ga first, if I had that choice indoors. Outdoors a rifle is what you need.
Hupuable Nah gotta have that Browning M2HB at the top of the stairs with a 1,000rd belt. Just tear up the thugs, the cars they came in on, the walls, the door, EVERYTHING. Lol. I wouldn't mind having an LMG for home defense, I'd probably laugh when the bad guy looked up the stairs and saw me with it lol.
As a vet (2 wars), I can give you my quick take on the AR- Awesome accuracy, at least 20 rounds, 30 with a bigger magazine, and if the "home invader" runs for his get-away car you GOT 'EM... and you won't with a shotgun!
TheSpritz0 Even terrible wastes of oxygen who think they're somehow better than others because they've "fought for freedom", when in reality, they've just been the goverment's loyal little mutt. Being a soldier clearly isn't reserved for good men - you're a tool.
Caveman Raveman
Caveman Raveman
Assuming every military member or cop is bad is just as stupid as believing 100% of them are good. I suggest you learn critical thinking skills. They will save you from a great deal of shame.
Adam Nichols Interesting how you suggest I learn critical thinking skills, considering you're due for a lesson. Re-read my comments - I never made that assumption.
I am speaking in generalities. Also I have been sifting through many comments today lol.
No one ever pictures the home invasion happening with a armed person. Everyone I talk to talks like it’s gonna be you vs a person without any kind of weapon. I’m gonna get the most effective combat weapon available to me. Period. That being said I’m not afraid of anyone coming into my home, and don’t own a gun. But I find it funny that a lot of people who do prep for it, act like having any gun is enough. As always this dude is on point and fun to watch.
Wow, all of these comments about over penetration even after Hickock pointed out that the .223cal round generally won't go through walls.
GG, people of youtube, gg.
erekllama As much as I enjoy his videos and advice, he does...by his own admission, make the occasional error..this is one of them. .223/5.56 will tear through your house like a knife through butter. Don't get me wrong, of course it will get the job done, but since most of you do not live in the country, where stray rounds are much less of a concern, you need to assume any missed shots, will carry on through walls. Keep in mind I can only vouch for FMJ, not hollow or soft points. I'm sure there must be a video out there for those as well :~)
Stay safe!
Danny Bumpkins M193 like he was shooting will not penetrate anywhere close to what OO will do. The M193 tends to fragment quickly whether in a body or after hitting a wall. It will still go through a 2x4 the long way with possibly deadly velocity left but honestly a hot 9mm or .40 or .45 will overpenetrate as much or more then a M!93.
Danny Bumpkins , he is not mistaken. M193 will not go through a house like butter.
I just not would bet much, if you were to have me stand on one side of a sheet of drywall, and have someone fire at the opposite spot where I was standing from 10 feet away...nope, would not make me feel comfy at all.
Firstly I am impressed at the non-troll tone of those participating in this very interesting and valid conversation.
After watching dozens of video on the .223 vs drywall scenario, I still am not confidant that everyone who keeps a .223 loaded next to the bed, for home defence, has rounds that will 100% fragment into a non-lethal threat to a family member on the other side of a drywall.
I see so many videos on youtube about being attacked, in the home, by groups of assaulters, armed to the teeth with assault weapons, hence the requirement for equal or greater force. I could find no reports of these actual random scenarios taking place, in a domestic home.
Like I said, I feel sorry for those who have to live in an area where the home is under constant threat from armed assailants, and can offer no real advice other than ballistic, and my own real world experience. I was issued, and used, in the line of duty, a .223 assault rifle/9mm pistol and submachine gun, and am very confidant of the ballistic capabilities of those 2 particular rounds. We would quite often do "wood tests" just out of curiosity...different types of wood, in varying thickness at different distances. We never even considered drywall, as know, as do any law enforcement investigator, .223 goes through at least ONE wall, at close range, and kills anything directly behind it.
Anyway, I am not trying to convince anyone who's mind is already made up. just tossing in my 2 cents.
Enjoy your summer and stay safe!
...as an afterthought...all the drywall tests I have seen on TH-cam, were done incorrectly. If you are familiar with the blanket test, and the hanging sandbag test, you know that physics, demands exact replication. The "walls" that were hastily put together for the TH-cam tests were not anchored on the top and bottom...I think one test, had one secured on the bottom, but both need to be for accuracy of results. Point being, all rounds would have gone further, and carried more energy. Nit-picking for some, critical for others.
Well here in Canada the only option that is legal in this video is the shotgun, that's until that gets banned too
I've reconsidered my home defense because of this video. Thanks a million!
This is literally my favorite TH-cam channel
Notice the "Standard Capacity Magazine" specification.
This man has his ducks in a row 😉
Got a good SPREEEEAAAD! ~Bill Burr
just an ol fashion Remington 870 with a pistol grip works great for a house gun. Thats what my Dad used when I was a boy for home protection too.
Agreed ! although I own its rival the Mossberg 500 cruiser version
Yes because in a pinch, your 110 lb wife can use a 12 ga pistol grip shotgun with full power loads. WTF...
Imagine breaking into this man's home and all you experience is the lights going out and hear the sound of a gun loading as well as this:
"Hickok45 here"
Someone commented this on a another video a while back, don't recall who but I found it hilarious.
Hickok shoots like a Boss.
I agree with all of the points in the video, but remember, the people you are trying to reason this point to don't believe you should be able to defend your home with a gun at all. You should try to be diplomatic and talk to the home invader, maybe see where their life went astray and try to help them rehabilitate. If you do shoot the poor misguided person who forced their way into your home, who may be there to rape and kill your family and kill you, well then you should go to prison for killing someone with your evil guns. Remember just fire into the air and they will scurry away.
***** sarcasm at its finest
***** Option 3. Sarcasm.
+MrScott1023
I can tell you're stupid.
At short range, a shotgun is devastating. Houses are usually not that big. Wouldn't go with a double barrel but a good pump or semi auto shotgun will do the job of home defense. You won't be shooting 100 yards + in "home defense". You'll go to prison if that's the case.
Sorry guys... this is a long one.....I lived in LA during the LA riots back in 92’. And my mom was the apt manager. My dad was also LAPD. Now during the riots our apt complex was on the corner and there were three other adjacent apt complexes on each corner. My father and some friends (other Officers and friends that had handguns and rifles) stood guard on all points of the roof of our apt complex. (156 units and 4 stories tall) and we saw mobs, and when I say mobs, I’m talking about groups of 40 to 100 people, smashed the main lobby windows of the other buildings and swarmed into the buildings like cockroaches. The three buildings on the other corners apt units (most with people living in them) had their doors kicked in and terrorized and apts looted and violent acts were done to them and their families. One building was set to fire. All of the building had 100 plus units in them. No one could stop them. At the time it was the beginning of the riots and it was such chaos that the LAPD told their officers that they could come to their stations and hold up in them until national guard came in ( which was about 4 to 5 days later) and restored some order to LA. My father had a list of names of the people in our apt complex and family and friends that were allowed to come there. Anyone.... I mean anyone that came close to the front lobby doors had about 10 to 12 barrels pointed at them from the rooftop and if they weren’t on the list they had to get going, no questions asked. There was a group that came out of another building that they ransacked and were heading over to our building. All of the guns were now at the front and aimed down at them. They were warned and they all scattered away like the pieces of shit they were. We lived on the corner of LaFayette Ave and 3rd st. Look it up on google maps. It’s smack in the middle of LA. Long story short, guns that day saved many people property, safety of their families and possibley their very lives. Being able to protect yourself is the only sure thing you can count on in a bad situation, not the police, the government or anyone. When shit hits the fan ( and no one knows when or how that will happen) you should be able to protect yourself. Sorry for the long message but I thought it was important.
Joe biden should have watched this 😂😂😂 "just fire it in the air honey that'll scare them" 😂😂😂
Another great video. A couple of questions and thoughts... I have at times kept a pup shotgun for home defense which has the advantage in firepower over the double or single but I have often wondered if one could hold some shells between the fingers of the off hand for quick reload (assuming shotgun has ejectors). I would love to see you try such a technique and test its viability.
Second I wonder if a pistol caliber carbine might be even better than the AR for such situations. Two factors might be the somewhat excessive power and muzzle blast of the .223 Remington and the horrendous cost of an AR rifle. I would think the pistol caliber's lower noise level would be a tactical advantage in that your hearing would not be as compromised. I would love to have your thoughts in that.
Who trained this man?! What a shot!
practice
4:55 - 5:15 you can tell by his body language he's very experienced and comfortable with guns.
From his safety, to discussing important points, he also seems fairly intelligent.
That is his backyard. That's who trained him.
sevenrats ***** he trained in his backyard, he was a cop. You say one thing and then he says another. You two are tearing me apaaart!
Roman Fox Lots of cops can't shoot. Cops don't get lots of firearms training unless they're in a tactical unit.
I am a military vet, I used both weapons in combat, well a pump and I like the pump better for close quarters. Can't beat a M-16 for long to medium, I don't know, just experience talking. I feel safer with a shotgun in the home, not the high velocity round in a AR-15, seen the rounds go through stuff and not stop. Took a bit longer to get your sight picture with the shotgun...
Hello Hickok45,
I have a question.
Do you know which brand of AR-15 that is? I can't tell from the video. Tried to look through the comments to see if anyone else asked this, they weren't very helpful or useful comments for that matter. Thanks. Love your videos by the way. I want to get one of the AR-15 rifle platforms, a Mossberg 590 A1, and a Walther PPS M2 for concealed carry. Really enjoy watching your videos. Keep up the good work. Thank you.
I had the same question
+Jimmy Star everyone like it so Hickok can read this comment and reply
Can't tell the brand. I think it's a Colt. If not then I would say it's a Bushmaster. Not sure if it came with the carry handle or not.
Active EJ I have one too and i can tell you, it's definitely not a ruger.
My bad. It's a colt 6920
4:54 "there's basically no recoil essentially at all"
compared to an ak. it has a lot less recoil
"multiple home invaders." (shoots multiple 2 liters)
Just love your no non-sense approach to otherwise complex comparisons and firearm related questions. Prior to this video, I would not have known which one would be the best strictly for home-defense--quandary decided!! Thanks again, as always!
Mr. Hickcock can u make a patterning video, with different shot gun ammo at distances persay for home defense use. I understand the essentials of what a shoty does, but looking at comments, I can see many don't understand what a spread pattern vs distance means or even is. Now low recoil, or sub shot gun ammo/ few defensive specialty loads out there, may pattern in 2-3 yards. But those are strictly for pump and single load use. Many buy semi auto thinking it's grey for home defense, yea maybe but most semi auto won't cycle home defense loads. Like always , love your many many years of insight. God bless sir.
+Apex831 We've done that in at least one of our shotgun videos. Don't recall the name. See FAQ Video 54 for "how to search."
+hickok45 what brand AR was this? Any recommendations toward specific brands?
+hickok45 found it, thank you sir
Didn't know that about the penetrating capabilities of the .223. I thought it would go through most barriers. Than again, I'm used to shooting green tips in the Army. I suppose a proper home defense load would be designed to break up in walls.
+CyanLink 50 grain varmint hollow points are great for that. pretty much break up in the first inch to three inches of penetration and completely fragment and dump all of their energy right there. Nothing left of them to penetrate after that.
+CyanLink The green-tip military M855 has a hardened steel core that improves the bullet's penetrating capability.
A regular .223 round is more like M193 round: it is all-lead and likely to disintegrate on impact.
I want a double barrel shotgun so bad
Mitch Hammond I bought my Stoeger Coach Gun for like 280 and I love it!! Highly recommended, especially for the price!
Great Video,
I'm from the UK and a Gun owner, we are restricted in the UK by Laws set in place by knee jerk reactions from several shootings that occurred in the 80's. I would love to be allowed the freedom to posses a fully automatic assault rifle. My weapons of choice would be the P90, for CQC and of course an SLR 7.62 rifle which I used in the Forces. I would never get rid of my 12 gauge either.
If you're not American then don't worry about what the hell goes on over here; simple enough?
I'm not American and I care very much about what goes on over there. Don't give one inch, or you could end up like us!
NSCA12 my relatives live there and im gonna worry
WJS appreciate it
So I'm guessing this video is about Joe Biden's statement about double barrels for home defense?
Yes it is.
In Canada, the AR 15 is a restricted weapon. The magazines are all pinned at 5, meaning that the magazine capacity might be 30, but you can only get 5 in there because the magazine has a pin that prevents one from loading more than 5. Nobody in Canada owns a firearm for the purposes of self defence.
how easy do you think it is to drill that pin out? fairly easy or just get a mag from america right. So what happens if someone came in your house with something like that? would you not want to match his firepower or beat his firepower.
TheIceman623 I am certain that the criminal element finds it very easy to drill out the pin. However if they, and hypothetically I, were to drill out the pin, they would be in possession of a prohibited weapon or device and would face criminal charges, fines, and jail time.
harbar3000 And they wouldn't be for home invading or their other criminal activites? Most of these types don't care how many laws they break if they are going to break them.
militantfascade You have just summed up most of the arguments of the pro-gun lobby in Canada.
harbar3000
But hes right. It takes nothing for a criminal, to break the law to get what they want. But its not just about criminals. You have a right to own an ar15 so you and your people can keep the gov from being the only ones with weapons. I think the reason Canadians and Europeans find it so easy to accept not having them, is they have no fear of a tyrannical gov because they already have one. Americans have an independence in us. Its been with us since the founding, that we do not do well with the chains of servitude on us. Most of us would rather die keeping freedom and liberty here, than live without it. Its most likely very hard for someone without that independent thought process to fathom why we fight for the right to live in a free, even if slightly more dangerous, country. And its not. Switzerland has gun rights and almost no crime. In the US our crime really only happens in urban areas where guns are restricted but yet, criminals keep them.
As good as Double barrels are, when it comes to shotguns, I prefer the pump action. After all, nothing says "Get the f*ck out of my house" like the action of a pump shotgun. A universal language as it were LOL
Now the VP said shoot a shotgun in the air and that will scare the bad guys away. Now in my state thats illegal ! and after that Ill have one shot left so hope they ran away! Is he for real?
You'll also have one big hole in your ceiling
He said shoot in the air twice lol
U want a RELIABLE gun and a flashlight you dont need anything else
and a sling dont forget that.
besides a tank with a 120mm gun ;D
Jake Long
Good point. When something goes boom in the night I make sure I have a sling on my rifle because I might have to use both hands to pick up something or someone to get to safety and leaving the rifle behind is not an option. A flash light is also pretty important, that said I can navigate my house in pretty much complete darkness but thats assuming there isn't broken glass or a door/window frame on the ground for me to trip on so unless I get some Gen4+ NODs to quickly grab and throw on my head a flashlight will do :P
If you're messing around with rifles then a laser would be a great addition too. Low light, tight situations might be difficult to try to look down those black peep sights.
Glock flashlight job done
"Put you at the top of the food chain" with the AR
You know why he has this shotgun....
So he can come out and scream
"GET OFF MY LAWN"
But what if home invaders come in a tank? Are RPG-s also available for home defense?
It's a shame :( Civilians should have right to defend themselves! If home invaders come in tanks, they should have RPG-s to defend their home.
Still waiting on getting machine guns back. I doubt someone would propose that in all seriousness. Lol
I like the fact that he's using the verbage "standard capacity" magazine and not high capacity magazine.
PS - Eat your heart out Joe Biden!
Anthony Gonzalez
when a leftist tells you something, pay close attention and do the opposite of what he says. you will be well. he will not be satisfied until you are disarmed and helpless...then, it is off to the workfarm!
It's not just the leftist, it's the person who has no idea who gave this nation the rights in the first place. (GOD) and has no desire to learn. First, Foremost and ultimately until they get it RIGHT. And HE loves each forever any way. Study the true Constitution and the Scriptures.
Elyse Thompson
Well, that describes a leftist perfectly......;)
@the Brits comparing their country's gun stats to the whole of the US. Your conclusions are based on an uneven comparison. It would be far more accurate to compare New York State to Britain. NYS is a very difficult and expensive community to acquire a firearm as they are very liberal minded. Comparing the US from shore to shore and then adding Alaska, Hawaii and probably Puerto Rico to the stats is just poor logic when comparing Britain shores.
wow never post using an iPad... typos galore.
I think the best argument against someone who wants to compare our (British) low murder rate with the US high murder rate is that the US _non gun_ murder rate is higher than the _total_ British murder rate. Are all those murders with knives, bats, etc. being caused by the availability of guns in the US? How, pray tell, does _that_ work? The US has some issues to work out, but gun ownership is _not_ one of them.
I am a double barrel guy. 58 years ago at the age of 13 I walked into a shop and purchased my first gun by myself a Mossberg long tom 12, I used it for hunting everything for 12 years and got quite accustomed to it. Many different loads available today. I believe a fool and his head would be parted if necessary.
I prefer a good pump action shotguns for home defense. That's just me. You don't have to worry about over penetration depending on your shot so that makes it good if you live like in a urban area so you don't accidentally put a round through a neighbors house. They do some serious damage, still hold a fair about of rounds and they are repetitively inexpensive. What ever floats you boat really.
So yout saying that if I live in a Japanese paper walled house, that I'm screwed...?
You not screwed you would just need to realize that there are applied risks to what weapon you use. You can use any gun you think you can use best just be aware of what lies beyond your target, and what round posses enough power to protect you.
Lol just being punny... but agreed, I would probably go with something like a FPG or an MP5 as a middle ground when I'm legal, as long as your dealing with a few burglars; a submachine gun would serve my PDW preferences well enough, If you want an AR, have at it, enjoy your constitutional rights while you still have them. It's just my personal preferance.
To each his own...
Yup.
Are submachineguns even legal as PDW's in N.Y.S.
I totally understand owning a shotgun, for home defense, hunting, target shooting, etc. But an AR-15 for home defense? Makes me wonder what kind of enemies you have...
What's the difference LOL. They both cause major damage.
+William Hicks do you also get PDSD from shooting a shotgun wuss? "hurt yourself"
***** sure all these soldiers including Auddie Murphy are liars. Shotguns are more managable than a semi auto, especially a .308. unless you are 5 feet tall it shouldn't bother you
+mrPanos2000 shotguns are more manageable than semi autos?!?! not in any way shape or form. even the lightest 12 gauge round is way harder hitting on the shooter than a .223 or .308. a .410 might be about equal but the ammo is way more expensive than 12
lol youre exaggerating what a AR-15 is. id take an AR-15 for home defense over a shotgun any day. easier to handle, accurate, a magazine, semi auto, and generally not as loud as a shotgun (although i still recommend ear protection.
I would choose the AR15 for home defense
I think the AR is a great HD weapon but firing one indoors will certainly ring your bell, even with earpro.
Someone needs to send this video to Joe Biden.
AR-15 the best gun eveeer
HK G3
Love AR's but M-14/M-1A better. I have both.
theeconomist100 FN FAL
Oh yeah? Well I bet your AR cant create a smoke screen, allowing for a quick escape like a good musket!
1776 WILL RETURN!
Where can I find the same ar15 as the one you have in this video? Can you give me a website
It's a Colt 6920. Very common.
If you're looking for a starting AR the S&W M&P 15 is a really reliable, accurate gun, and allows you to learn the platform without breaking the bank as well. (Not discrediting the Colt, just mentioning a less expensive option for your first AR)
Thanks hickok45
Try the new Springfield Saint 556.
Joshua Hutchinson
You will likely have hearing impairment (possibly permanent) however, if you fire 10 rounds from an AR in your house without ear protection ;-)
Can you recommend an AR? Just a simple, basic model.
+Michael Venia See recent AR videos.
Thanks.
+Michael Venia A Smith and Wesson M&P Sport or a DPMS Oracle. Me and my dad own these. Cheapest price we could find at $560 each.
+Cat S (CatsGoNom) And both will probably be cheaper come black Friday.
Yeah, a Colt 6920. A Daniel Defense DDM4V11 as well. Or a Sig 516. I like all 3.
ammo is not cheap
Agreed, you have to invest a lot of money to go out and shoot hundreds of rounds like some do.every week end.
Then work harder.
Both of these guns are overkill. You can completely blow somebody up with this.
Imagine they are in your house, obviously armed because all Americans have guns for some reason, wouldn't you rather have a more compact weapon? Something that you can easily stick around corner, move through doors with and be nimble with. They are also more likely to come in at night, when you're sleepy I don't think it's smart to start firing a gigantic shotgun in your house...
Then again, I live in The Netherlands so I'm completely safe here :D
You make some good points. I personally use for home defense the Kel-Tec Sub2000 rifle loaded with Federal GuardDog. 4 pounds, I can reach out and open doors while keeping the rifle up, and it folds in half. Love it!
SovereignSoul I use my television at night for entertainment, and my bed to sleep in. You know, because I don't have to be afraid some armed maniac runs into my house because my country isn't fucked up lol
You know whats funny. you said that these huge guns are hard to move thru doors and halls? well if that was true why is it that the Army (all armys) clear rooms with rifles like this. Im in the military we dont clear buildings with handguns for a reason. its underpowered and with how short our M4s are we can easily maneuver inside buildings. Carbines (what M4s and AR-15s are) are compact. You clearly have never been in any self defense situation so what makes you think you know anything about the topic and can comment on it like your some subject matter expert? You come off as arrogant not intelligent.
Guy Random Tell yourself that the next time you hear "Allahooo Ackbar!"
SovereignSoul Damn, twelve people got killed somewhere in France. I'm not even close to that location, besides that, enjoy the 33.000 people that are shot in the states every year!
That last slo mo segment kicks the crap out of any action movie ever made! Well done!
I hope I am not the only one that was and still is concerned that Joe Biden is VP...
Well now he's president, just to make matters worse
Unlike the AR the shotgun will still function dirty... A good pistol or Pistol caliber carbine or pump shotgun is all you really need and sadly you can get all three of those for the price of 1 AR...
Again your paying a thousand dollars to be lazy... Elaborate waste of money... Plus that long barrel in close quarters is a disadvantage to you... True you may not over penetrate the bad guy but you will on the walls... I have training in this area and I only see it as expensive overkill... But that's just my opinion, I have the training, practice, and skill set to do as good if not better with a handgun or shotgun... A prison survey was done a few years ago where the prisoners were asked what was the most terrifying sound to hear when they broke into a house... Number 1 answer was a shotgun chambering...
15 years military service. .. Shot expert all 15 yrs. I was also military police for a few of those years... I know my weapon systems, my training, and my experience. I still practice and run drills in my residence. Shot placement is 10 times more important than caliber selection. That is all I have to say on this matter. I wish you luck in all your en devours....
If Nobody except the police would be allowed to own weapons you would not have to defend your home with firearms. Maybe there would be cases in which a gun could have saved life but it would be harder for criminals to get a gun. And that would probaly prevent many shootings. If I would have grown up in a country in which everyone is allowed to have a gun I probably would also want to have one, and I would not understand guys saying what I have written above. Maybe thats the reason why America has problems to just throw away their guns.
Well at some points I changed my mind especially in terms of terrorism. Having a gun might save me from getting decapitated by IS fucktards
Those guys are too unreliable. Sometimes they get here in 5 minutes and the next time it's 25 minutes..
+xXAlmdudlerXx
That presumes that you can defend yourself against an attacker without being armed. That is not always true. If attacked with a knife or bat, or if you are a physically weak person (female, elderly, disabled etc.) attacked by a healthy male, if you try to defend yourself without being armed you will most likely fail.
Also, if you look at the statistics the number of times people defend themselves with a gun is not a "maybe, sometimes" thing. It happens thousands of times _per day._ Compare that with maybe ten people killed with a gun per day _including suicides_ and it's pretty clear that guns are a good thing.
Hey Hickok! I live in a condo and share walls with 3 neighbors! My nightstand gun is mossberg 18" tactical pump 12 gauge loaded with federal defense (cop stuff) #4 buck...with 6 shot shell carrier on receiver (+ the 5 in tube = 11 rounds) and green laser sight so shooting around cover, etc doesn't require straight look down barrel. Green dot on target, and shoot. Buffalo outdoor has video online showing .223 round from ar15 blasting through 23 sheets of 3/8" drywall before breaking up. Same as his test 9mm fmj. I'm a huge fan of yours, and not trying to discredit your firearm wisdom (you da man!), but for folks in apartments, kids in other rooms, etc., this is something to consider, regarding over penetration danger. I wouldn't advocate birdshot, but in my research, defense #4 buck is very effective bad guy round with lower risk of "other side of wall" incidents. You can also put some 12g slug rounds in the on board shell carrier for through-barrier shots if BG decides to attack from behind cover. Lots of options.