Best Self Defense Round

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  • Addressing the issue of deciding on the best self defense ammo.
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  • @purdysanchez
    @purdysanchez 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +114

    It's always a very sad thing when someone forces another person to defend themself. The best thing to do is keep an eye out for conflict and proactively avoid it.

    • @JoesDreaming
      @JoesDreaming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What's even worse is having a gov't that tries to destroy you for defending yourself. I live in a state where they'll come after you for carrying or using too much pepper spray, nevermind if you shoot someone.

    • @QualityPen
      @QualityPen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      True but sometimes conflict finds you sitting at home in the early afternoon, minding your own business, just playing a video game at your desk…

    • @dominicohea5624
      @dominicohea5624 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your. Right. Have. A good. Eye. For. Trouble. Don’t. Be there. When it. Happens. Best. Option. Not always. The case. I’m still listening. No other. Comment. To complicated. Hope. It. Never happens

    • @millsrickman7703
      @millsrickman7703 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Never been in the military but I knew about situational awareness before I ever heard the term.

    • @shahreyaralam1019
      @shahreyaralam1019 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well said

  • @johnnelson9252
    @johnnelson9252 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +146

    I believe it was you, sir, from whom I first heard the adage: You don't shoot to kill, you shoot to live. That can be taken a few different ways, but all of them are worth considering.
    Thank you for so many years of entertaining, yet invaluable wisdom. God bless you, Mr. 45!

    • @Hickok45Talks
      @Hickok45Talks  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      That's a great line, and it's so true!

    • @thomas_bahama
      @thomas_bahama 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@Hickok45TalksYou should give a disclaimer at the beginning of every video that warns the viewer that this video should be watched at 2x speed to compensate for your brain power.

    • @Skimmerlit
      @Skimmerlit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@thomas_bahamaWhy be nasty?

    • @thomas_bahama
      @thomas_bahama 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Skimmerlit I don't ever handle blm supporters with kid gloves.

    • @JohnAlexanderBerry
      @JohnAlexanderBerry หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      it's good that Mr Hickok talks slowly because he's easy to follow. Thank you Mr Hickok 👍

  • @craigthescott5074
    @craigthescott5074 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I’m a retired street cop of 33 years, if all the variables are equal the larger handgun round you can control is going to be your best bet. However I did see quite a few people shot with .22’s that were killed. When it all boils down shot placement is 90% of success. Personally i’m buying pistols in 5.7 now because of large capacity, low recoil, excellent reliability, combined with great accuracy and multiple options for bullet types. One thing to consider is a handgun is just a bridge to get to a better option which would be a shotgun or a rifle.

  • @jc-pj3nh
    @jc-pj3nh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    A solid hit is better than a loud miss. Carry what you know you can handle accurately.

    • @RLCoombes
      @RLCoombes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Practice, practice, practice!

    • @timhallas4275
      @timhallas4275 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      My wife won't shoot anything with more recoil than 380, so I made her practice three shot bursts until she could get 3 rounds in a 6 in circle in less than 2 seconds, at 30 feet. She is not to be messed with.

  • @paulo-gouveia
    @paulo-gouveia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    Hickok45 for President! Another great conversation. Life is Good!

    • @rifleshooterchannel208
      @rifleshooterchannel208 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No gun control supporters for president.

    • @professionalpookie
      @professionalpookie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Too old

    • @bernardhayes4459
      @bernardhayes4459 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He’s much more coherent than Brandon

    • @stevetemple8826
      @stevetemple8826 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I second the motion..

    • @plopolip01
      @plopolip01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@professionalpookie heh? Hickok is 74 , trump is 78 and biden 81 😂he is younger than the current candidates

  • @johnquill5883
    @johnquill5883 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Well said Sir. Logic is needed in this world today. At 72 I take for granted the common sense of earlier times.

    • @guaporeturns9472
      @guaporeturns9472 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh yeah? The common sense that polluted the globe , cut down all the trees and destroyed our country? Have a seat , let the next generation try to fix the horrible mess you guys left us.

  • @hiltonlouque1504
    @hiltonlouque1504 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Hickok better live to at least 100! We need your knowledge! You are an American Icon!

  • @maptinkler
    @maptinkler 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    For one young boy a rock and a slingshot was his best round.

    • @randymiller5008
      @randymiller5008 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Amen 🥰👍✝️

    • @OGbqze
      @OGbqze 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@randymiller5008You'll never guess what they teach at the "Churches" near me....
      Here's a hint🏳️‍🌈

    • @OGbqze
      @OGbqze 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@randymiller5008I call them "Synagogue of satan"

    • @colglen6693
      @colglen6693 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@randymiller5008 5 stones. I heard he had 4 brothers. They were Giants, too. Nephilim, most likely from Gath aka Gaza.

    • @philipdouble9851
      @philipdouble9851 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@randymiller5008 Not that it matters but David picked up 5 stones because Goliath had 4 brothers. Same meaning.

  • @kevinroberts1888
    @kevinroberts1888 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I agree about shot placement being first concern. For years I used to carry a 22 revolver in my car and used to feel it was adequate. It wasn't until more recent times that I felt the need to change my car gun to a 9mm and started carrying a pocket gun in 380 auto. 380 is about as much recoil as I can handle in a mouse gun and still have good shot placement. I feel it's more important to stay within your limit than to have the biggest round on the block.

    • @YellowjacketGTO
      @YellowjacketGTO 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Targets unless you have a Tac course stand still. Badguys and you do not.

    • @markhamersly1664
      @markhamersly1664 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For what it's worth, NO .380 is a Defensive caliber, PERIOD. After teaching firearms for 42+ years, and being a retired Federal officer, my carry round, in ALL my 9mm pistols is the Federal 9BPLE load. A 115gr JHP at +P+ pressures. In all my years teaching firearms, I have not met even ONE Instructor who considers .380 OK for CCW or anything else. The USCCA has done TWO videos THIS YEAR, that say the same. And Mas Ayoob is famous for the quote; "Friends don't let friends buy mouse-
      guns." Hammer 42+ year Firearms Instructor, USAF SSgt; US Army CW4/SrAviator; INS/ICE/CBP, ret.

    • @kevinroberts1888
      @kevinroberts1888 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      While I respect your opinion, I don't agree with it. I believe that any caliber a person is willing to carry is better than the bigger caliber gun left at home because it's too difficult or to painful to conceal. Not everyone lives where you can wear heavy clothes or jackets all the time. With the right ammo, 380 can be very effective. Paul Harrell has done several videos on this worth checking out.

    • @x_warhog_x8701
      @x_warhog_x8701 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kevinroberts1888 Exactly I carry a Glock 42 and have every confidence in it because I've used and trained with it and know what I'm doing and its very easy to carry.

    • @shg373
      @shg373 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@markhamersly1664 that's your opinion and opinions vary

  • @BulletSpoung
    @BulletSpoung 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    A long term study was done on one shot stops years ago, and the 357 Magnum with the Federal 125gr JHP or the Remington 125gr JHP was number one for handguns, and that the 357 and the 12 ga. with 00 buckshot were only 1% apart. The military did a multi million dollar test of the 12 ga shotgun, they determined that the 00 buckshot load rained supreme over all others. So pick a major brand name that's moving fast and you're set.

    • @Ol5tb
      @Ol5tb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you know what studies these were?

    • @Bobario1
      @Bobario1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The first thing that came into my mind when I saw the video title was .12ga 00 Buck.

    • @emilymiller1853
      @emilymiller1853 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ancient data

    • @CraigAllen-re9bf
      @CraigAllen-re9bf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Evan Marshall study ex new york police det.. Used toe tag city data from police shootings

    • @troyspain7073
      @troyspain7073 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol the US military has no problem sending our money, the problem is the cheap junk they equip our troops with! Just follow the money!😅

  • @nathanhoard3421
    @nathanhoard3421 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    22 is very capable with shot placement, especially with 22 magnum

    • @craigthescott5074
      @craigthescott5074 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The problem with 22’s is they are rim fire and can be unreliable, the hot ticket now is the 5.7 round but it’s drawback is it’s expensive to shoot.

    • @gonzob9609
      @gonzob9609 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@craigthescott5074 Revolver in 22, 22 mag will work. I have a LCR in 22 with 8rnd capacity, and I shoot it very well. My EDC is a LCR 327 Mag. My Beretta 70s 22 is just as reliable as any other pistol I own when shooting quality ammo. CCI Mini Mags, or standard velocity. That's suppressed, and non. My Walther PPKs in 22 was an absolute 💩.

    • @craigthescott5074
      @craigthescott5074 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@gonzob9609 yep I carry a 4 shot 22 derringer with 22 stingers in my pocket everyday. But that’s just a backup for my knife. 😀

  • @jp2555
    @jp2555 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    In the early 80s an older cop told me you want to carry something that's going to stop somebody running at you..... so for me it's always been a 45 caliber on my side and a 12 gauge at home........ just my two cents worth 😂😂

    • @craigthescott5074
      @craigthescott5074 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Good choice as a retired street cop that’s what I carried and added an AR 15 later in my career .

    • @BubbaDuke2011
      @BubbaDuke2011 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed 👍

  • @minuteofcan
    @minuteofcan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    The fastest accurate hit wins. Expansion is nice and helps but will not be the determining factor.

  • @stilldajoker
    @stilldajoker 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Spot on talk Hickok! Thank you for all you do for the gun community. I'm good with whatever round my older hands can shoot well.

  • @Vv20vV
    @Vv20vV 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    When I 1st got into firearms 20 years ago, this was an important curiosity of mine. Back then, I always went with 40 caliber. 20 years later, I find the perfect rounds for self defense is what you’re best shooting with basically. You can become precise with anything as long as you practice with it. From 22lr to 50ae.

  • @TWH-k9i
    @TWH-k9i 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I really like 38 special double action revolvers myself. Best with a 3 inch barrel.
    In a self defense situation. Under that much stress, the easier the gun is to operate, the better.
    And my little 38, i can easily carry in my front pocket.
    If I dont have it, its not very useful.

    • @samuelWx
      @samuelWx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      J frame for that very reason!

  • @joedyhicks9415
    @joedyhicks9415 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When I went for my carry permit I like so many others asked my shooting instructor what would be the best self defense firearm / caliber and his response…
    - The one you have on you -
    Whatever you carry just make sure you are proficient in its use .

  • @casualobserver3145
    @casualobserver3145 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    “It’s nothing like in the movies.” So true.

    • @denislaouenan5553
      @denislaouenan5553 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Probably the reason why we see so many cases where both opponent end up dead.

  • @davemeise2192
    @davemeise2192 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you Hickok45. You're exactly right. During my lifetime I've hunted a lot of big game and have met many hunters who want their rifle to compensate for poor shooting form or poor shot placement. It doesn't work. Naturally I've never been in a self defence situation with a firearm but I think shot placement would be the right thing to focus on.

  • @philshock3805
    @philshock3805 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +205

    The best defense round is the one that stops the threat ... which is entirely determined by shot placement.

    • @oblivionpro69
      @oblivionpro69 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      That’s why I use a BB gun, perfect shot placement every time easily.
      Shot placement> power

    • @svbarryduckworth628
      @svbarryduckworth628 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @oblivionpro69 way to be ridiculous. There is such a thing as minimum penetration. A .22lr has it. A BB gun does not Let's just eliminate anything that doesn't break the skin like most BB air rifles, nerf guns, rubber band launchers and your mom.

    • @gsp49
      @gsp49 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​​@@svbarryduckworth628A .177 pellet rifle can send somebody to the hospital..

    • @gk5891
      @gk5891 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In order of importance.
      1. Choose options you would actually carry.
      2. Evaluate reliability when used by you.
      3. Evaluate accuracy and speed when used by you
      The winner will be marked with appropriate cartridge.

    • @Chris-rn9ly
      @Chris-rn9ly 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@svbarryduckworth628 the FBI ballistics tests would prove that a 22LR does not have adequate penetration for a viable self-defense round. There is absolutely such thing as Minimum penetration, use the right gun and caliber for the job. Could you take down a deer or a bear with a 5.56? absolutely but it's not recommended because it will not drop a deer nearly as reliable as a 308, 270, 30-30, 30-06. As for human targets the same could be said for 22 vs 9mm in self-defense circumstances.

  • @Atoyota
    @Atoyota 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Shotgun for sure, even a .410
    But in a handgun I'd say a 45 has the best all around stopping power. Or affords you the best chance with poor placement. And I'd say this for home defense, interiors as opposed to outside, where a barrel is not an impairment to accuracy.
    Extreme calibers can be risky. They may knock down your target but they can also travel through walls with ease. You are still responsible downrange....

    • @charliesierra6919
      @charliesierra6919 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agree 100%.

    • @professionalpookie
      @professionalpookie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You’ve never tried .357 Sig…

    • @craigbrown5510
      @craigbrown5510 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@professionalpookie .40 S&W and 357 Sig are the answers. Both more effective than 9mm or .45 when all things are equal.

  • @svbarryduckworth628
    @svbarryduckworth628 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    The one that you can place precisely on the target accurately, rapidly, and repeatedly with absolute certainty. Critical hits are paramount. Size of holes is not nearly as important as exactly where they are located.

  • @johnnymccann5607
    @johnnymccann5607 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    as a hunter ,tracker, with over 45years experience and knowledge of reloading many, many calibers and when possible retrieving bullets checking retaining weights and expansion I have taken deer from 22lr to 50 cal muzzle loaders. I would point out my 22mag bolt action has taken many game animals in my state which is legal. here many hunters take deer with 22lr and 22mag. my daddy killed so many hogs and beef cows with a 6 in barrel 22lr revolver. many farm livestock taken every year for the freezer with a old single shot 22lr or 22 short. my point is as I've always believed if it can kill a250_400 lb hog and a 1000 pound beef then it can be used in self defense. one exception, I don't and will not own one of the little mouse guns. only around 35 to 60 ft/lb energy. I won't go shorter than 3in barrel 22lr in any pistols or revolvers. with the selection of 22lr today with 3 in barrel energy ranges 75_ 118 or so ft/ lb energy. I enjoy your videos..papa wishing you well. 😊

  • @paulchapman1933
    @paulchapman1933 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I have carried 32 cal for 40 of my last 60 years of handgunning. Thin 3/4 in., light 7oz. Keltec p32. Never jammed, ever, You can carry it with shorts on. I carry it 85% pf the time. With a jacket on 9mm -45 cal. Depends on the places I go.

  • @syn4057
    @syn4057 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    That’s it, I carrying a pocket full of angry bees; I guess they’d be pretty angry, cause they’re in my pocket.

  • @Roberta_Esposito
    @Roberta_Esposito 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    a wise person once said that you should Only carry ammunition used by your local cops. a jury/ prosecutor can never hold it against you.

    • @billyharper5925
      @billyharper5925 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      They then argue that you are not law enforcement and that you had no business carrying such cartridges.

    • @Jayleewild
      @Jayleewild หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@billyharper5925that's where they'd be told, too fkn bad... Change the law if you don't want me carrying a certain type of ammunition.

    • @rdb5451
      @rdb5451 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Many police departments follow the lead of the FBI, who spend great amounts of money and time researching firearm ballistics and terminal effects of firearm rounds commonly in use by military and law enforcement.I’d say they know a thing or two about the subject and if ever asked about why you used a particular round the simple response is, I figured the cops know what’s best so I copied them!

  • @mrmcbeth
    @mrmcbeth 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Active Self Protection is a channel that reviews shootings almost every day. If anyone wants to study the effects of gunfire, that’s a good resource. You don’t always know the caliber they use, but it’s still valuable info.

    • @harperhellems3648
      @harperhellems3648 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      A better channel is Police Activity ,100% made up of US police body cam footage. That other channel has a lot of Brazilian craziness and blurry gas station footage. Police Activity always has a written explanation of an incident and its aftermath. It shows personnel responding to all kinds of calls.

    • @rifleshooterchannel208
      @rifleshooterchannel208 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      John is morbidly obese and has never been in a gunfight.
      He’s not a credible judge of tactics.

    • @YellowjacketGTO
      @YellowjacketGTO 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@harperhellems3648mag dumps galore. Leos are not the best shooters for sure.

    • @waholoopesorry74
      @waholoopesorry74 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@harperhellems3648 Police Activity is a great channel to see how ineffective 9mm is

    • @lemniscatelogos7917
      @lemniscatelogos7917 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@harperhellems3648you’re absolutely right that’s the only channel that has allowed civilians to see the affect an mp7 has on the human body spoiler it looks like it worked very well

  • @rolenrodes1371
    @rolenrodes1371 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I like my Glock 19 and 9mm Pistol Carbine with a 8.5" barrel. Interchangeable with a Silencer. I don't have much use for 300 to 1000 yard shots. It's mostly in and around the house self defense rounds.

    • @billythekidd623
      @billythekidd623 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      pt111 witha hi point 9mm carbine and like 8 loaded mags is my favor camping combo even with bears i dont find the need for a 500 mag revolver or a 454 casull

  • @deanburney
    @deanburney 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Hornady Critical Duty. The 175 Gr. .40 S&W is perfect for my needs out of a Glock .40.

    • @4JaayTv
      @4JaayTv หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s so heavy

    • @deanburney
      @deanburney หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@4JaayTv I can fully understand a decision to go with one of the super light weight “Rocket rounds” with velocities approaching that of rifle fire. I would use them.

  • @janemarkham4133
    @janemarkham4133 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When HICKOK45 TALKS, " I LISEN "!!!!

  • @gedocowboy8484
    @gedocowboy8484 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yep, I agree. I think we all agree shot placement is the most important. Other than that get what you like.

  • @thomascarpenter7415
    @thomascarpenter7415 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Gold Dot wins the day for me … or Federal HST

    • @frostriver4547
      @frostriver4547 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like Critical Duty and HST. I like carrying what our local LE carries

  • @sylviacandler5541
    @sylviacandler5541 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love to hear of your commonsense "talks". I hope you keep them up!

  • @tomfraustein7693
    @tomfraustein7693 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Agree 100% Shot placement.

  • @philipjennings7062
    @philipjennings7062 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    A lot of times bad guy just seeing you have a gun is enough to stop the aggression...

    • @h0rrr
      @h0rrr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      eventually you may run into the bad guy that it isn't enough to stop though!

  • @skootr924
    @skootr924 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Remember, you are responsible to account for all seeds your freedom spreader delivers. Make sure the recipient only receives the seeds, not everything next or behind said recipient. Alot of decisions to be made in a fraction of a second. Mental hopscotch/calm reserve/focus before any physical actions, well except breathing 😊

    • @timburton9514
      @timburton9514 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      True! And it’s not mentioned often enough. Exactly why I don’t understand why anyone would use an AR in a home defense situation. Especially with FMJ ammo!! You’ll shoot someone 5 blocks away!

    • @rifleshooterchannel208
      @rifleshooterchannel208 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@timburton95145.56 55gr ball will penetrate less building material than pistol caliber JHP ammunition.

    • @rifleshooterchannel208
      @rifleshooterchannel208 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@timburton9514 Myth

    • @emilymiller1853
      @emilymiller1853 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. Make sure you don't die. That's number 1

  • @TafuaupoluIakopo
    @TafuaupoluIakopo 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I agree with Jim , stopping power counts more to me in self defense than lethality.

  • @MrAvidOutdoorsman
    @MrAvidOutdoorsman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is Joe, and I couldn't agree with you more,😂😂 thanks Hick! Lol I appreciate your input

  • @browngreen933
    @browngreen933 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    What's best is what's in your hands when you need it. 😮

  • @wileddan
    @wileddan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    The best firearm? The best calibre? The best first aid kit? The one you have in your hand when your need it.

    • @timhallas4275
      @timhallas4275 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is the dumbest answer I have ever heard. Like asking someone what is the best car to buy, and they say, the one already in the driveway.

    • @alwaysamongdragons7354
      @alwaysamongdragons7354 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@timhallas4275 The point of the comment flew _way_ over your head. If I were to "fix" your analogy, it is more like asking about the best car to buy and given a list of options, because, as the comment was trying to point out, _the best option changes based on circumstance and need of the individual asking or having something is better than having nothing._

    • @timhallas4275
      @timhallas4275 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alwaysamongdragons7354 You seem to have read into that comment, way more than what is there. He's basically saying that the one you have is the best choice because it's the one you already have. He is simply avoiding the question.... and so are you.

    • @alwaysamongdragons7354
      @alwaysamongdragons7354 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@timhallas4275 No, no I haven't. No I am not. And neither is he. I don't know how you have gone this long without hearing someone saying this before, effectively meaning that the question of having a caliber at all is more important than which one you choose. It is exemplifying that there is no best caliber or best round that works for every last person on Earth because if you hand someone that can't handle recoil a 45 they might miss every shot and they may as well have not had a gun in the first place. Thus: the best caliber is the one that works for you. Reading between the lines is not your strong suit.

    • @Blueknight1960
      @Blueknight1960 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@timhallas4275 So if you had only a .22lr and you needed it in a self defense situation are you--
      1) Going to use it which means the one you have in hand
      or
      2) Say this isn't the right gun/caliber and tell the aggressor, hey hold on, I don't have the right gun/caliber, give me about 2 hrs and I'll be right back.

  • @danw4930
    @danw4930 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Best response I have ever seen on this subject. Love it!

  • @jimmcculloch4890
    @jimmcculloch4890 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Excellent advice. Thanks for sharing your ideas.

  • @GunSam
    @GunSam 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    "Sorry if your name is Billy......unless you're a bad guy" lol

  • @davidspringer4019
    @davidspringer4019 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've thought about this too, which round, what gun, where to shot, when exactly to shot: before or after the "get out of my..." It came down to this for me, it's whatever handy. It may even be a kitchen knife. I pray it never happens. It may never happen, and yet... Thank you for this video.

  • @patwalsh2868
    @patwalsh2868 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hi , been watching Sunday ShootAround for years and this was my first “Talks “ video you are right to keep innovating with the platform, because there is So Much USEFUL INFORMATION in your Brain , n you are a enjoyable unmet friend 💥💥🔫 from Commy Ct.🇺🇸

  • @Kees3576
    @Kees3576 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think many of us get wrapped around the axle trying to come up with the perfect caliber and bullet design. The reality is that shot placement and penetration are the most important. Caliber, revolver vs pistol, ammo, are all a distant second.

  • @chrisliles1668
    @chrisliles1668 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    hickok45 is a awesome man

  • @jesusbencomo3495
    @jesusbencomo3495 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As Hickok just said, there is not only the right bullet placement, because there are other factors like the stamina and strength of the person.
    I've just remembered the tragic murder of the beautiful singer and dancer Selena by Yolanda Zaldivar when she was shot in the heart with a 38 caliber at extremely short distance, but Selena was able for her great physical condition to run the street away from Yolanda yelling for help until she tragically passed.

    • @millsrickman7703
      @millsrickman7703 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So you are a fanboy and like guns. I'm sure theres some other gun channel that caters to you

    • @--SPQR--
      @--SPQR-- หลายเดือนก่อน

      she was shot in the clavicle buddy

  • @oldmangreywolf6892
    @oldmangreywolf6892 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My prefer carry rounds are the Hornady Critical Defence and Federal Personal Defence.
    9mm, 327 and 32 H&R.

    • @chuckdavis1323
      @chuckdavis1323 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have critical defense in 32 H & R.

  • @Left4theright
    @Left4theright 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have often wondered why people put such focus on which defensive round. It is similar to round count in your firearm. Most occurrences take 2-3 rounds, so why does someone need 17. I am not opposed to having 15+ rounds, just curious as to why the emphasis on having it. With caliber, why do you need 9mm, 10mm, 357mag etc., when a 22LR or 32 ACP will actually work. Again, not opposed to a higher caliber, I normally carry a 40 S&W. If you enjoy toting a 50 cal. Desert Eagle, go for it.
    The better question than what is best for defense is what is enough. What firearm will allow you to function in your daily life and feel comfortable. Hickock45 keeps referring to a 22 or 32. A large number of 380 ACPs and other lower power caliber firearms are used every day and perform their role as needed. If you look at gel tests which are all over TH-cam many defensive rounds / calibers work sufficiently, and those that are noted as not working as well is due to expansion issues. Shot placement matters more with lower power rounds.
    The firearm and ammunition industry are happy to keep putting out new rounds and new firearms. In the end they are tools, buy the ones that will work for your situation and skill.

  • @G.I.JeffsWorkbench
    @G.I.JeffsWorkbench 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great advice. Glad you didn’t pretend to answer this question for all responsible firearms owners and the self- defense situations they might face. Be confident. Be fast (enough). Be accurate. Be ready.

  • @randyclar747
    @randyclar747 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Any projectile going over 600 feet per second; has the mass of a .22lr , or greater" is considered to be lethal. This advice comes from an actual doctor from Japan that wrote the Black Medicine series. If the assailant doesn't know where to place rounds; than a bullet no matter how fast or huge is useless.

  • @CitizenCarrier
    @CitizenCarrier 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I try not to overthink this too much. The self defense rounds I carry are either Speer Gold Dots or Federal HST. Both being the 9mm 124 grain +p variety. I think those have been pretty well proven rounds. Lot’s of different rounds out there. But I see no need to change. For home defense, it’s my trusty 1964 Remington 870 with Federal Flight control. Again. I don’t overthink this stuff. Aim small, miss small. Shot placement for sure.

    • @emilymiller1853
      @emilymiller1853 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      127g ranger T +p+ 😅😅 🎉 124g HST is my second choice. Depending on gun

  • @JuanMotime-yz5pp
    @JuanMotime-yz5pp หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Hickok45. Excellent video. Great advice. Shoot what you feel comfortable with. Practice a lot.

  • @MrSupergoose73
    @MrSupergoose73 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well said, brother.

  • @greyjay9202
    @greyjay9202 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What I've noticed about a law enforcement response to a lethal threat, is that officers typically count on multiple rounds, fired quickly, to neutralize a suspect's
    ability to cause harm. If 4 or 5 or more bullets strike the suspect, it significantly reduces the problem of bullet placement from the equation. The choice of bullet caliber thus becomes secondary.

  • @fireguy_75
    @fireguy_75 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Common question, perfect answer!

  • @tahani11
    @tahani11 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great presentation and the absolute right answer to the question posed.

  • @sailboat1734
    @sailboat1734 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    And practice, practice, practice!

  • @Aneubis
    @Aneubis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Depending on what I am wearing, I carry either a 1911 45 ACP with Liberty Civil Defense (78g, 1900 FPS, Frangible), or a.380 with Liberty Civil Defense (50gr, 1500 FPS, Frangible). They also make a 50g, 2040 FPS, Frangible for 9mm lovers. Low recoil, reduced over-penetration, massive damage - great ammo. I agree with most of what Hickock said, with the exception of 22 short. I had a friend that had to shoot someone in self defense with a 22 short. He was wearing a thick leather vest, and the bullet just bounced off. He never carried that gun again.

    • @emilymiller1853
      @emilymiller1853 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Miserable rounds 👎

  • @robertosantinni9656
    @robertosantinni9656 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Shot placement is almost always the most important consideration.

  • @mkshffr4936
    @mkshffr4936 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I don't think there is a best, only trade offs.

  • @chuckdavis1323
    @chuckdavis1323 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I know a guy that has 40 plus years of law. Enforcement in a major city. He carries a 22 magnum airweight, using critical defense.

    • @rifleshooterchannel208
      @rifleshooterchannel208 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So in 4 decades he’s learned nothing.

    • @darrtrubb
      @darrtrubb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rifleshooterchannel208😂

    • @waholoopesorry74
      @waholoopesorry74 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Experience doesn't mean intelligence

    • @chuckdavis1323
      @chuckdavis1323 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @rifleshooterchannel208 what have you learned ? Tell me about your experiences with a 22 mag and people getting shot. Is it true that you were shot with a 22 mag, and it bounced off your head and body without effect ? Wow, maybe you're right !

    • @rifleshooterchannel208
      @rifleshooterchannel208 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@chuckdavis1323 Nonsense argument.
      A Gamo 1000 pellet gun is lethal.
      Would you recommend using one for home defense over a 12 gauge or AR15?

  • @Bat-Twenty-Two
    @Bat-Twenty-Two 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    My nephew is still too small for a 9mm pistol at the range. He uses .22LR and I try to maintain his confidence as well as his respect for firearms by saying that people didn't suddenly become bullet-proof overnight.

  • @bernardhayes4459
    @bernardhayes4459 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ken Hackthorn said the best ammo is what you have in your handgun when the fighting starts

  • @RLCoombes
    @RLCoombes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Some years ago, I ordered an IWB holster for my Charter Arms Bulldog. As the holster maker and I discussed my requirements, he opined that, as a retired NYPD detective who had worked the "Son of Sam" murders in the mid '70s, I had chosen an "adequate defence round". I took that as a meaningful endorsement.

    • @chriskolb3105
      @chriskolb3105 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually, a few of the victims of those shootings survived.

  • @poppapawn7535
    @poppapawn7535 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    a good way to look at whatever he talks about life is what you make of it thankyou for your sharing knowledge

  • @PalKrammer
    @PalKrammer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    An excellent and well thought-out presentation.

  • @richardhuffman-oy8ng
    @richardhuffman-oy8ng 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for your videos! I learn something every time I watch your channel!!😊

  • @neiljohnson6815
    @neiljohnson6815 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I use the same round that my local Sheriff's Department uses.

  • @Gieszkanne
    @Gieszkanne หลายเดือนก่อน

    On Colin Noirs Channel is a storry about an 85y old lady that shot an intruder. She had a 357 Mag und he a 9mm Beretta. He dumped his mag and hit her 4 times arm,leg, chest and stomach. She shot and hit him only two times but he didnt even made it out of her house and died there. She survived. Yes there are no magik bullets but some might be better.

  • @alking4083
    @alking4083 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is the best commen sense for that topic I've found on u-tube...that was a refreshing trip to the woods..thank you....😎

  • @chopperking1967
    @chopperking1967 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hickok you know what you're saying in this video as well.

  • @davidrivero7943
    @davidrivero7943 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A .22 cal Mouse Gun, wait your "turn" & SURPRISE , noggin @ 10 paces. Always dress light in Miami & heck, im just walking the Dog.

  • @dustyj4204
    @dustyj4204 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As its always been said, the one you will carry, everyday, all day, that's comfortable, and that you can hit with, is wayyyy better than nothing.....

  • @williamhsmithjr2991
    @williamhsmithjr2991 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Intimate Fear of Death or Grave Bodily Injuries. I get it turned around, but close enough for now. Many people could die or become disabled by a Full Adrenaline Charge. Anxiety can cause trouble for anyone in a situation of self defense.
    Training and preparations are needed and it is not easygoing. I care!!!!

  • @stuartmarkman769
    @stuartmarkman769 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It is shot placement that matters. Practice with whatever you carry and get that muscle memory working for you.

  • @robertosantinni9656
    @robertosantinni9656 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At one time the .357magnum 125gr Nyclad bullet was the most lethal, the most highly rated handgun round per the FBI.

    • @allensharp-to4cq
      @allensharp-to4cq หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True, but the muzzle blast from the 125gr loads is horrendous.

  • @DeltaVTX
    @DeltaVTX 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I carry the same thing I practice with every weekend: quality 115gr ball. Billy won’t stop to discern your ammo selection if you are putting effective rounds on target.

    • @JT-mg9pd
      @JT-mg9pd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Ball ammo is under rated. I don't carry it but it'll do the job for sure

    • @richardkluesek4301
      @richardkluesek4301 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JT-mg9pd millions of people kia in 20th Century wars and street fights

    • @gedocowboy8484
      @gedocowboy8484 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ve been thinking that lately. With the way groups of criminals act now fmj might be best for barriers and such.

    • @LTVoyager
      @LTVoyager 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The big problem is over penetration and the possibility of hitting an innocent behind the perp. That would be very bad. You would not want me on your jury if that were to happen.

    • @rifleshooterchannel208
      @rifleshooterchannel208 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@LTVoyagerSo you would convict a man for defending himself.
      Got it.

  • @Scheinwerfer120
    @Scheinwerfer120 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've never shot a firearm in my life but maybe I can still add something. I'd argue that law enforcement is probably the one job where you are placed in lethal self defense situations the most often. These people do learn from trial and sometimes rather tragic error. I would assume it's probably safe to say that using whatever the cops have is the best idea in 99% of situations any normal civilian could find themselves in

  • @billg1995
    @billg1995 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Excellent talk!

  • @Bjornvetr
    @Bjornvetr 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I mean, the Happy Shooting Range in the Sky doesn't sound bad at all.

  • @CraigAllen-re9bf
    @CraigAllen-re9bf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    H 45 you have the best features of Elmer Kieth....Skeeter SKELTON...Bill Jorden...rolled into one....Old school is the way brother... I'm with you all the way....

  • @ronniebaughman1666
    @ronniebaughman1666 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Officer Mark Coates died when he received a shot from a 22 l.r. in the armpit that hit his heart after he had shot the assailant 5 times in the chest with a 357 magnum this happened in I think 1992 in South Carolina!

  • @bhoward9378
    @bhoward9378 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Subscribed! 100% agree with stopping power versus lethality. Assassins have favored the .22 for years; it will kill someone dead of wounds the next day. But you can be killed by a mortally wounded assailant if you don't have stopping power. I hope to live out my life with this being a matter of discussion only.

  • @mohdusa9566
    @mohdusa9566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    بارك الله فيك مستر هيكوك ٤٥. GOD bless you Mr hickok 45

  • @BirdDogey1
    @BirdDogey1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I appreciate these chats more than the shooting.

  • @harperhellems3648
    @harperhellems3648 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cliched answer: the one you have on you. But true.

  • @nelsonlanglois9104
    @nelsonlanglois9104 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    " In Home " Self Defense Round / Weapon = 12 Gauge Shotgun with ' 00 ' Buckshot & Sabots ( 2 - 3 / 2 - 3 )

  • @astraltraveler257
    @astraltraveler257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great subject, thanks for addressing it. I would think the answer is whatever the shooter can most confidently bring into action and put on target in a life-or-death situation. Would be interested to hear what those who have, have to say about the subject.

  • @Rob-i5k
    @Rob-i5k 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ever fire anything super sonic in the house, you may never hear yourself do that again. Subsonic is best 22 to 50 cal don't give a darn about a few millimeters of man pelt at 10 yards, that's why I wear ear pro while I sleep it's not the wife's snoring it's so if there's an intruder I can fire off some hot load 556 out of 7 " barrel with not even a break on, love you Hickok, may we meet at that big range in the sky some day

  • @bobbymolis6401
    @bobbymolis6401 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just love this channel.

  • @phild8095
    @phild8095 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The best round is the one you can practice with. My wife and I have several we practice with. Options are good to have.

  • @tonnywildweasel8138
    @tonnywildweasel8138 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    To avoid unnecessary legal trouble it might be wise to get the same caliber as your local law enforcement. Some prosecutors will complain about your 'extra powerful' rounds..

    • @loghomemaintenance
      @loghomemaintenance 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Not if you make a quick getaway

    • @Jleitte
      @Jleitte 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      As a retired LEO, we must focus on prosecutors who don't protect our rights. Our rights are more pertinent than the criminals.

    • @tonnywildweasel8138
      @tonnywildweasel8138 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Jleitte : absolutely 👍

    • @rifleshooterchannel208
      @rifleshooterchannel208 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@tonnywildweasel8138If you’re that worried over a legal criticism that has never actually been used, you should be more worried about making it clear you went out of your way to carry whatever your local PD does because that will make you look like a wannabe cop vigilante.

    • @tonnywildweasel8138
      @tonnywildweasel8138 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rifleshooterchannel208 : It was just an advice I got from Massad Ayoob and Paul Harrell I thought I'd share here.

  • @golfshirtshooter633
    @golfshirtshooter633 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s a very easy question to answer. Whichever caliber and out whichever firearm you can put the most shots on target at center mass the fastest and at the most rapid rate of fire possible is the best self defense round for you.

  • @waholoopesorry74
    @waholoopesorry74 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    45acp

  • @ash1949
    @ash1949 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, Thank U for all U try do for all of us , hopefully law abiding citizens and all that believe in the US Constitution!!! How we deal with those who don't, is a difficult problem for all! The answer is not the politicians, and don't know what else we can do!!!!

  • @frankod100
    @frankod100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A good point on actual rounds may be police and military use. 9mm, .40 cal etc.

  • @Michael-cx1zi
    @Michael-cx1zi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On the North American continent my top 2 choices for 4 legged threats among long guns would be a semi-automatic 12 gauge shotgun or semi-automatic rifle chambered in 30 06. As far as handguns I’d still opt for one of the large caliber revolvers. 2 legged threats however any firearm should suffice assuming the assailant isn’t armored up.

  • @greggibson6914
    @greggibson6914 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you. Excellent advice and way to look at things. Whether it’s my hunting or carry ammo I look at it the same way.