Hii Lorry 🤍 I was wondering if you could do a video on Selena Gómez? I loovee Selena but I feel like everyone blames the changes in her appearance due to her lupus but I’ve always felt like it’s something else
Apparently she did. She had an exact replica made and switched into that one after the red carpet. She could’ve only worn the replica & that would’ve been more respectful & better received.
Yeah that's exactly what she should have done, not wear the original dress itself that doesn't match or fit her, that is made of irreplaceable silk that isn't made anymore. Her sweating in a historical artifact made it's preservation life much shorter 😭
@@MarianaCervantes she didn't have the replica made herself, ripley's made it shortly after they procured the original dress. the replica didn't fit correctly either, although they made some alterations so it at least closed.
When I first saw she wore Marilyn Monroe’s dress, I didn’t care too much and thought people were being dramatic. However, when I learned that the dress was made specifically for her, literally sewn onto her to fit every curve of her body, and made to match her exact skin tone, my whole opinion changed. It wasn’t just some random dress, it was for Marilyn only, and to even dare to wear that dress seems very entitled to me.
Kim K. Is probably thinking about wearing one of Elvis' jumpsuits to next year's Met Gala!! Nn But I don't think Priscilla and Lisa Marie will allow that!! 🤡 👗 🐷 🐖
Fabric is the toughest material to preserve. Worse than paper and even some foods! This kind of artifact should be in a temperature controlled room, with no lights and should hardly be touched at all! Not only is disrespectful towards marilyn and the designer, but it's reckless and dangerous.
Mariah Carey said that she could've gotten this dress for herself years ago coz Marilyn is one of her biggest icons (even naming her daughter Monroe) but out of respect for her legacy, she didn't. She only bought Marilyn's grand piano and a makeup compact and took care of it ever since.
I don't understand why this dress wasn't in the Smithsonian Museum, then it dawne on me, that the association with the event (JFK's birthday and Marilyn) would have caused some of society to get all nuts and crazy and on their highhorses. I've been there and was surpised to see, Archie Bunker's Chair, The original dresses worn by the Supremes from their first apperance on the Ed Sullivan show' & Dorthy's red shoes from the Wizard of Oz movie. It is too bad in someway that Mariah didn't buy it and then perhaps donate it to the museum. Mariah🌟🌺
Mariah has always shown respect to talented people who came before her so of course she showed respect by not wearing the dress. Mariahs on a whole other strasophere from that other woman.
She has access to the most beautiful gowns any woman could want and designers that could make her dreams come true but she chooses to wear Marilyn’s dress for five minutes
She should be ashamed of herself for damaging the Marilyn dress, both in the physical and spiritual sense. That act was beyond disrespectful to the legacy of the dress and Marilyn Monroe. Her Narcissism is through the roof.👎
I completely agree..I believe it's just the blatant disrespect that's most appalling to everyone! Also also I don't know if anyone else knew this but the whole met gala theme was Gilded age which was between 1870-1900..how does wearing a dress from 1962 fit AT ALL? I find the entire thing just downright disappointing
I like how Kim said she lost 16 pounds to "fit" in the dress when it literally still didn't even fit. If you can't do a dress up and have to leave a large portion of the back open, it doesn't fit honey. I'm a size 6-8 but could fit into a 2-4 if I left half of the back open too. That doesn't mean I'm all of a sudden a size 2 lol
Marilyn's dress looks like a completely different dress on Kim. You wouldn't even be able to identify it if you didn't already know the significance, so I'm not even sure what the point was. She looks terrible in it, and the dress is absolutely ruined. Abby Cox did a great video about the ethics of it, or lack thereof.
Agreed. I saw Marilyn sing Happy Birthday to Pres. Kennedy in that dress. She was breathtaking. Kim didn't come close. It didn't even look like the same dress. The reason she had a fur on was because the dress could not be closed over her butt.
As a Marilyn m lover, I was hurt, livid, and disgusted she wore that. How much did she pay to wear that piece of American history? And it was all around a terrible stunt including the diet that ultimately projected to the public. Thanks for covering this!
I was livid also, that was a piece of history and what I would consider sacred. How disrespectful to Marilyn, Kim is so entitled that it makes me nauseous. She's a totally average person and it's beyond me why she is a star, KK has done nothing inspirational in her life and has zero talent. Not to mention that there was no way that she did not damage that dress in some way.
Dae I mean Marilyn was so used in her life, now even in her death this happens. Caretakers of Marilyn's personal clothing ought to be held accountable. Treating her icon dresses as if they were running a celebrity jumble sale. 💔🙄
@@lavenderbee3611 I’m not a fan of the Kardashian/Jenners- especially Kim- because I believe the product they are selling is dangerous, but they DO have a talent for marketing and selling that product, which is themselves.
ironically, if kim still had her natural skin tone and butt, she probably would have looked a lot better in the dress! i agree and think we look best when we work with our features rather than against them, but kim is at the point where pretty much none of her features are natural. personally i still find her "before" photos more beautiful. but i definitely don't envy the pressure of hollywood. i'm my own worst critic already and i can only imagine.
@@alexbennet4195 i was just saying her natural skin tone is closer to marilyn's than her skin tone is now. she likely uses tanning injections as many in hollywood do unfortunately. and yes, her natural skin tone i think is somewhat olive. and it was beautiful imo
Kim could've been sewn into a replica, same as Marilyn, as an ode to the original dress. The dress was designed to match Marilyn's skin tone, Kim easily could've done the same. This was entirely needless sacrilege of a historical artefact and I will die on this hill.
After the red carpet ceremony, Kim did change into a replica. The dress is owned by Ripley Entertainment and they endorsed her wearing it. She could not have worn it without their blessing. Still a dubious idea, for sure!
@@CathyS_Bx That doesn't make her or Ripley any less innocent. It's a sacrilege against historical artifacts anyway, and a terrible precedent to create.
yeah...KK was sandwiched into the MM dress in an anteroom, hobbled out and up some steps then changed into the replica. Seriously, we all knew that dress was NOT ever going to fit KK body! not with a 16 lb weight loss or the most heavy duty skims! KK is also inches shorter than MM! Her strategically placed white 'fur' jacket/stole was a dead giveaway that her 'enhanced' rear end was hanging out!
@@CathyS_Bx Ripleys isn’t a museum and doesn’t have to adhere to museum laws. Garments in museum collections are not to be worn because every time you wear something there is damage to the garment, not to mention the light bleaching. That’s why nobody wore gilded age clothing. It exists, it would just be against regulation to wear. Ripleys made a poor decision allowing her to wear that and lost their chance at ever becoming an accredited museum, something they tried to do several times in the past. It’s definitely causing a lot of waves in the historical community and many fashion conservationists have spoken about it. Hopefully we don’t see other OOAK garments mishandled for the sake of publicity.
It’s sad that it would NEVER be the last time Marilyn wore the dress. That is ruined. Can’t believe this was allowed. I would never see this dress in display now. Makes me mad that rich people are always so entitled.
@zummy2007 exactly. It’s disrespectful to begin with, but for me, it’s the way Marilyn Monroe passed that makes the situation totally unethical. Her death at such a young age was tragic, unexpected, and unresolved. This dress - which was a huge part of Marilyn’s legacy - was the last dress she wore at a public appearance. It just makes no sense for anyone to ever want to wear it.
@@christinahighsmith4453 there are so many other dresses she could have worn that would have matched her skintone better and accentuated her looks better too.
Omfg, it's just a freaking dress! It's still the same as it always was. I can't believe that with everything going on in the world, people are getting butt hurt over a bloody dress..
i never knew kim was 5’2. it’s just proof we really don’t know these celebs. her photos are always taken in such an elongated way??? im actually shook!
It happens with most of these influencers, they use a lot of photoshop and editing. It’s so subtle now days that it’s hard to spot or be aware of it. They portray an illusion that they’re re tall or of average height or have all these beautiful features but were you to see them in real life, they would look completely different.
It depends on the body type. (Think the Kibbe system, if you don’t it know by now) Usually people with smaller heads look a little taller in pictures and vice versa. I always thought Lady Gaga looks taller in pictures, and she’s only 5”2
never knew such an iconic historical dress could look so distasteful on someone. she has no respect towards the late Marilyn Monroe and this action was out of pure vanity.
It would have been interesting to see her in a replica that matched her skintone and was sewn onto her just like Marilyn. She could have chosen an appropriate hair color, with Marilyn esque touches that paid homage respectfully. Instead, she put on Marilyn like a costume, as she did with Black women's aesthetic.
The thing is that... SHE SWITCHED TO A REPLICA AFTER SHE GOT OFF THE RED CARPET. Which boggles my mind of why she just didn't wear the one that fit HER instead.
The designer himself who made the dress for Marylin and Marylin alone, just came out today saying it was one of the biggest mistakes he’s ever seen and is shocked how it even happened. You can even see photos of him escorting Marylin that night. Not only because it’s Marylin Monroe and that dress was the last dress she wore in a public outing as she died a few weeks later from the event wearing that dress, but that dress was important to American History. I don’t know how many times it has to be said but damn it, #ARTIFACTSARENOTACCESSORIES!!! Edit: Thank you for the likes and conversation- I’m glad people agree :)
I was just thinking about whether it would be possible to make a timeline of procedures like Zac Efron's potential ones based on their filming/public appearance schedule
What's nuts is Marilyn was always touted as the 'curvy' queen of that era yet based off her measurements she is still incredibly small! Media's perception of body sizes is so damaging
That is what I noticed when I was doing a presentation about Marilyn at 15. I was wondering how these measurements were any kind of way big or unseenly curvy. Yes slim curvy and she had breast implants later in yms. (I encourage you to watch Lorrys analysis on Marilyn Monroes Plastic Surgery. : )Those implants (or whatever they used in the 50s) made her look bigger. Hew weist was so tiny. She was pregnant and bigger on Some Like it Hot era, but was very slim again at the early sixties. Some ppl got their facts messed up. Also it is medias presentation that Marilyn was sooo curvy.
Curvy is not necessarily plus sized or big. It’s just a body type where the bust and hip and bigger than the waist. Not saying it’s something to put this body type on a pedestal, but that’s what curvy is.
@@chiravuris I agree, but I wouldn't even consider her specific measurements to be considered curvy. I have the same as hers but with the breast and hip sizes swapped, and I very much consider myself petite.
My waist and hip measurements are 24-34 too but I look like I've got slight curves and they're nothing like what Marilyn Monroe had. I know people with the same measurements can look different but I wonder if these measurements given here are accurate. I don't trust what the media says/said.
i know it’s “just fabric” but that’s a $10 million dress that was last worn by MM. now it’s last worn by KK…it’s been stretched out, probably missing crystals and it’s been stepped on. it’s fine if you don’t care but some people do because she literally destroyed an artefact.
Some people like to believe that emotional value doesn't exist but when enough people find it emotionally valuable they'll pay millions for it and it will turn into real value.. that dress was sawn right onto Marilyn while she was completely nude beneath, it might sound stupid to some but to hardcore fans they would find emotional value in the fact that the dress was littered with Marilyn's DNA, I feel like Kim wearing it is an emotional molestation in a sense. Not to mention it looks really bad with her skincolor and figure
@agh yeah like in that case the original american flag was just a piece of fabric too and the constitution is just a piece of paper, but i bet a lot of people would riot if you told them *that* 🙄. Technically anything and everything is just this or just that, but it’s about the significance it was given in the moment and all the significance it has collected over the years. So what if you specifically don’t care? Some people do, and that’s what the discussion is about.
That dress was revolutionary! It was meant to accentuate her figure and make her appear "nude" which is why the fabric was covered in rhinestones to make her look naked and matched her skin tone. Kim completely made the dress look cheap and trashy with her spray tan 😬😬😬 Also, the dress didn't even fit Kim which is why she wore that fur wrap for the back.
This family is just so disrespectful. Marilyn dress was made to fit her and her skin tone. Kim made it look so cheap and she greatly devalued that gown.
Agreed as well. It didn’t look nice on her. If she had had a similar dress made specifically for her and her skin tone to “pay homage” to Marilyn and the designer… I don’t think people would have been so upset
@@DaringDanielletravels exactly. We all know darker skin looks better with all colours. Even though Kim uses fake tan to get the skin colour of other ethnicities other than YT.
Well kim bought the marilyn dress for herself so she has the right to do whatever she wants with that dress and wear it during met. I don’t see any disrespectfulness with that.
People are like “it’s just a dress!” Yes, but it was marilyns dress. Custom fit for her. Yet Kim had to wear it and force it on. Not everything needs to be touched by a kardashian.. or even touched at all. I said what I said.
It is just a dress... now let's have some strange that has no respect for the man using Ayrton Senna's helmet and see how it goes.😂Brazilians would be nad AF. Senna was a F1 pilot that died some almost 30 years ago, but is still very beloved here in Brazil.
Lori you're literally my go to channel and person when I feel like I need a sanctuary to feel safe in away from all the anxieties and self insecurities THANK YOU !
Great job Lorry! I am amazed at how classy and professional you are in your synopsis yet you are still giving us things to speculate and ponder about. It's almost like you are a lawyer/detective in the cosmetic world! You are such a light for women in general!!!
Disgusting she tried to squeeze into it and then they added a string to pull it together UGH 🤦♀️ Should of never been worn, it looked terrible on her. Sorry I loved MM and how dare her.
@@theonlytinoxl No, but it really is that serious. As a celebrity who’s whole career is about her body and looks she is setting a terrible example. Her behavior is perpetuating eating disorders. To starve yourself for 21 days in order to fit into a dress for a couple hours is extremely disturbing
@@theonlytinoxl garment history IS actually a valid and serious trade. And no, she didn't look great, she couldn't even walk. Like too much sausage in not enough casing.
I’ve watched a few videos done by textile & fashion historians. They wholly criticized KK for damaging this historical dress. The oils of the body, the handling of the fabric, & just even wearing it destroys the fabric.
@Sunaina Stargirl they flew it to her on a private jet with guards! It’s so crazy. If you have to go through all of that, just make your own design that matches the met gala.
@Sunaina Stargirl I agree. But I don’t think Ripley’s Believe It or Not would be concerned with the historical value of the dress. They get publicity & probably some cash from KK.
Agree with ALL the comments in the last couple of minutes. The whole point of the dress (on Marilyn, originally) was for it to look like she was barely wearing anything, because of how it matched 1. Her skin tone, and 2. Her body shape. The dress did not match Kim's skin or body shape, so the dress was pointless on her.
Hi Lorry, I'm glad you mentioned rib removal. I've thought for months that Kim has had her bottom rib removed to exceituate her waist being so much smaller. I enjoy your videos. Thankyou for your propective 💜☮️💜
Definitely couldn’t get any tackier, I feel like the media wants us to overdose on the Kardashians! It’s really tiresome to hear about millionaires and billionaires that really do nothing for the good of society (or anyone but themselves) problems like we should care and relate to them!
wow this makes me think she knew she was never going to fully fit into the dress and has known it for a while and didn't care about stretching it out and damaging it
Yeah, she was never gonna fit :( I am sceptical she used the diet to fit to hide the reductions she clearly has had done. I am so sad that someone rich is able to just do whatever they want and be SO entitled. Is she going to go to the natural history museum next and buy up ancient Egyptian artifacts to use as accessories. It leaves a bad taste and is really disrespectful :( P.s I love your channel BTW. Just spotted the name on this comment.
Very disrespectful of KK. That dress was custom made for Marilyn and deserves to remain untouched. Thank you for your coverage on this, I saw the video where the historian explained what you stated here.
Disrespectful towards Marilyn. Marilyn told her designer that she wanted a dress only Marilyn could wear and kk Didn't even look good in it nor did it even fit. All for her EGO!! Wow!!! Thank you so much for the likes guys!! Remember everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I hope you all have a great day! Thanks so much :)
@KMH I agree with you , that dress should’ve been left alone..it’s no hate towards kk but some things that was for the older icon celebs doesn’t need to be touch nor wore, put her dress back in a keepsake box
Marilyn is over hyped by the white community ! She is not a big deal and Kim already surpassed her in legacy. Kim is just clueless now that Kanye is gone.
This is absolutely the most impeccably worded opinion I’ve heard of this situation so far. Thank you for being tasteful when talking about the patterns of starvation/binge eating.
You should watch Abby Cox's video on it. She goes into how absolutely problematic Kim's statements were and does a deep dive on why wearing that dress was flat out, not okay.
Agree; I don't think Kim should be scolded for simply admitting publicly what every other single celebrity does all the time secretly. It's an unrealistic standard, but most people say 'I don't have to diet or exercise!!!1!' which is deceptive.
As someone in recovery from an eating disorder, hearing how much weight she lost in such a short time and the rumours about how she did it was VERY appealing to my eating disorder. Luckily, I'm recovered enough not to take action based on it, but I know there are so many people out there with eating disorders and body insecurities who would have felt awful on hearing about her crash diet, and who would have acted on those feelings. Considering that the Kardashians have spoken out about having insecurities about their bodies and that all bodies are beautiful (although that does seem to be more of a sales schtick than anything), it's sickening that they continue to do these stupid diets and brag about it.
Great video, I used to have so many issues about my body. I was heavy for most of my life and decided at 28 that I wanted to be healthier, and I did just that. I have so much confidence in myself now, and this video made me realize that my healthy choices are lifelong, bc I took my time. I lost about 76 pounds over the course of 3 years just from walking and adopting a vegan lifestyle. I kicked it up a notch by doing dance workouts, and from there I started doing home weight lifting and my body has never looked better. I always say that if I had the money when I was younger I would've gotten so much plastic surgery, because I was so insecure. This is not judgement on anyone, I just can truly relate to feeling like man I'm not thin enough, I'm not pretty enough. Kim is gorgeous inside and out, I hope that she knows that as well, and anyone struggling I hope that you realize that you are gorgeous inside and out. Do whatever brings you peace and love whether that be exercise, or surgery. As long as it is done in a safe and healthy space.
A huge majority of vintage clothing found in stores previously belonged to dead people. When one of my dearest friends died, her sister gave me a ton of her clothes because she knew that we had the same taste. When I wear one of my friend’s dresses, I feel close to her. I think about where we were going when I last saw her wear it and it makes me smile. I really feel this way when I wear jewelry that belonged to my mother and grandmother that are deceased. It doesn’t feel creepy to me at all.
I forgot to mention that I didn’t like the idea that KK wore the dress. I think that it should never be available for loan by anyone. If I were a celebrity and the owner asked me to wear it, I would have said thank for the honor of being asked, but I will decline your offer.
Creepy? I wear dead peoples clothes from thrift shops all the time. I think it’s tacky and disrespectful to wear Marilyn’s dress specifically, but dead people don’t need clothes. Thrifting and passing things down helps the environment. But I get where you’re coming from in this case.
When people stop paying attention to her and she stops earning money from it. Ironically, this exchange between us right now is exactly what she wants.
Bob Mackie (legendary designer most famous for creating Cher’s looks) spoke out against marilyn’s historical garment being worn. So did fashion conservators. I feel like it’s not right considering they had to ruin it in order for Kim to wear it. Also sending love and support to your family Lorry 💖🇺🇦
Oh, but in a way, it was perfectly on-theme! The Gilded Age was a time when the appearance of wealth and glamor was only a thin veneer covering the reality of rot, entitlement and inequality. Marilyn's dress on Kim seems a very good example of this dichotomy.
Kim literally tore that dress apart and rendered it worthless as what made it iconic and valuable historically is that Marilyn was the ONLY and LAST person to have worn it. How haughty and self-absorbed. Truly sad.
Marilyn has been gone for 56 years and they continue to exploit her even after her death. Leave her alone this is the last thing she would have wanted! And then the fact that Kim was given her a lock of Marilyn's hair is absolutely appalling. While Marilyn was alive she was treated like something to be sold..please just leave her, her clothes, and her legacy alone!
I don't understand how she was able to wear the dress. Marilyn had no Kim K butt so NO WAY the dress would fit. We're they so AFRAID to tell Kim No she can't wear it because she can't fit it. Dress was for Marilyn real shape not the BUILD A BODY
she looked terrible in MM’s dress. she looked super uncomfortable, she could’nt even walk, you can literally see how tight the dress was it was distorted on her body. Pete was holding on to her for dear life lmao.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA so true, too bad she had to just about destroy a piece of Marilyn and Kennedy and fashion history in the process! typical rich spoiled selfish frivolous woman getting her way yet again!
I’m more upset that she wore the original dress that Marylin wore, and ruined it’s original status, I also agree with what you mentioned when it comes to her colouring.
Thanks for the info. As a person who's a recovering anorexic (even at my age - still recovering), it's very refreshing to be shown what is and has been done to achieve whatever shape a celebrity is going for. Yes, thank you.
It’s very difficult not to compare your body to others and to not feel bad about yourself given the beauty standards that we can’t escape seeing everywhere. We should learn to accept and love ourselves how we are.
fr man, the other day i saw a girl on TH-cam with size 0 getting skinny shamed and recieving comments such as 'damn you're flat' 'go eat something, flat ass' 'you look like a guy with that flat chest'. little do they know that her body was the beauty standard in the 90s' heroin chic era, that thousands of girls used to starve themselves and feel bad when they don't have that "flat" body, and that today's standard, the slim-thick hourglass figure, was considered "fat" back then. these beauty standards are ridiclous, man.
Sorry idk if you guys are a big fan of kardashians but as an asian I only know they exist back on 2019. and when I first saw them I already knew they don't look natural🤣 the beauty standard that they are trying to set is the people with colors and they mix it in their obviously white skin. 🥴 idk why people think it looks good on them when it's all surgery🤦♀️ they just snatch all of the beauty traits of each ethnicity and injected it in their bodies🤦♀️
You saved me like $500-$600 and you don’t even know it! Lol! I was a huge fan of Doja Cat and I was going to buy tickets to see her on tour but after seeing how horrible she was to you I will not give her a penny of my money. You’re super sweet and never say anything negative about anyone in your videos. I’m pretty sure she got so aggressive towards you because every single procedure you said she had was the TRUTH!!!
It makes me soooo mad Kim has this dress. IT SHOULD BE IN A FRIGGIN MUSEUM!!!!!! NOT TOUCHED, NOT WORN! Shes stretching it, ruining it!! The dress itself is legendary and a relic. Godamnit, celebrities always gets their will, f them
Technically it is, Ripley's allowed Kim to wear it. However, I do believe the dress should be in the Smithsonian instead of Ripleys. (Even though it is the most expensive dress)
Marilyn wore the dress, it did not wear her. Her figure was beyond beautiful and sexy. The biggest take home for me is once again acknowledging what a true beauty Marilyn was. ❤️💋
I’m more disappointed in Ripley’s decision to lend her a dress that clearly doesn’t fit. We know Kim would do anything to get the limelight and it worked.
Is Kim in pain? It seems she gets something done every couple months. Shes gotta be taking pain pills all the time. I personally think Kim's bottom half looks better now. The bbl she had before was looked ridiculous. 😬 Its sad Kim still pulls these stunts for attention after the success she's had. The dress looked horrible on her. It should've stayed in the museum.
I can't even tell y'all how bad my blood was BOILING bc she wore Marilyn's dress! I'm a HUGEEEE Marilyn Monroe fan & I could feel my blood pressure going up as they raked their hands up the rhinestones on her dress! You can LITERALLY see the stress marks from the dress stretching over her hips😤
yeah...Marilyn herself wanted it not to be worn by anybody else...and whats even more disturbing is that Kim got gifted Marilyns HAIR , thats just sooo messed up , sooo disrespectful...she was a real human beign and Kim holds piece of her hair like a some kind of sick trophy as an history student I find it soo disrespectful towards Marilyn.
@@HK-gm8pe LOL I forgot about that! They've reported that it wasn't in fact Marilyn's hair because of the timeline of who was her hair dresser at the time and how the hair was acquired.
The dress was left open in the back and she kept her fur wrap around her the entire time until she was inside. Once she she was inside she changed into a replica dress that was made for HER. She stated these facts a couple of weeks after the event.
Marilyn was a very natural, earthy woman with normal proportions. And it makes me cross Kim Kardashian actually thought she could rival Marilyn, such arrogance.
She couldnt even if she tried wt a billion dollars. Marilyn was so self actualized and cared for people and beautiful soul who has love for life and simple things
And this right here is why I trust Loris opinion. She was the only 1 speaking about the BBL reduction a whole year earlier, which tells you just how accurate her observations are. Thank you for another great video 🙏
So despicable, disgusting and infuriating that because of Kim’s ego, she put in danger and almost broke a frágil and iconic dress that Marilyn Monroe wore. Not just a fashion history piece, it’s one of a kind
That dress was made for Marilyn and Marilyn alone. It fit her like a glove 😍 the color against her skin tone married each other so well and it outlined her natural beauty like an unwritten poem. That being said, Kim shouldn’t have worn it and like Lorry said, it wasn’t her best Met Gala look. She could of had someone recreate a similar dress but with a twist or a couple! It’s very disrespectful and wrong. If she truly was a Marilyn fan, she would have known and done her homework.
Kim took one of the classiest dresses in history and made it look cheap and ratchet while disrespecting the deceased former owner in the process. Tragic
This dress was custom for MARILYN. It is ICONIC to HER. Sorry, but WHO authorized giving the okay to have Marilyn's dress borrowed by Kim? She doesn't have an ounce of class as Marilyn did. Not a good "fit." Period. Why couldn't Kim have had another dress custom made for her? Is Kim comparing herself to Marilyn? Don't think so, hon.
No matter if Kim loses or gains weight or has surgery, she will never achieve the style and natural elegance of Marylin. There are things that you can't buy. She is embarrassing.
This stunt has forever tarnished the legacy of that dress. The dress was valuable because it was very provocative for the time, Marilyn wore it to an iconic event after which she died a few weeks later, and she was the last person to wear it. Not to mention, she wanted to be the only one to ever wear it, and it's sad her wishes weren't respected. Shame on Kim and shame on whoever allowed her to wear it.
Kim is over all a bigger woman than Marylin, it does not take a genius top foresee she would tear the old fabric of the dress up. What prompted those involved to allow the tear of the iconic dress?
I don't think Marilyn Monroe would appreciate the disrespect Kim paid to her. Kim really didn't have the right wear Marilyn's dress. Very disappointing "Riley's belive it or not"
I'm absolutely disgusted that Kim was allowed to wear and ruin Marilyn Monroe's actual dress, and so disappointed in her decision and the people at Ripley's that allowed it to happen. Marilyn Monroe's dress with her D.N.A./oils/skin fragments/etc. should have been perfectly preserved in The Smithsonian, not worn by an attention seeker with a baboon butt for shock value!
Even if I could fit and look good in that dress, it’s a historical item, probably very fragile. Why not wear a replica? I don’t understand why she chose this look; I thought that hair looked terrible on her, I don’t understand who encouraged her to go for this look. To be compared to Marylin who definitely looked surreal in that dress?
The fact that Kim HAD to wear this dress despite the fact that it didn't even fit just shows how attention hungry she is and how little respect she actually has for Marilyn's legacy. Marilyn Monroe is the epitome of Hollywood Glamour and somehow Kim's met gala look with her hair and the makeup managed to make the iconic dress look trashy 🙃 If your intention is to honour Marilyn, at least do it right.
I've been watching you for a year now. Thank you for your videos, they really helped me to cope with the eternal comparison of myself to celebrity figures. And thank you also for the flag behind you. I've watched a lot of your videos during the war, helps take my mind off everything that's going on here. Pardon my English
Thank you again for these videos! Kim looks so unnaturally "thin" in her neck and breast area, the dress you could tell didn't fit right. The one celebrity who I recall being very upfront about literal starvation (even reducing his water intake) to make his skin and muscles look more prominent on screen was Henry Cavill. The famous bathtub scene in the Witcher, although nice on the eyes, was unbearably unhealthy for him.
Another TH-camr named Abby Cox made a really good video regarding Kim wearing Marilyn Monroe's dress. It was really well put from a fashion historian for anyone interested.
@@michellerains2732 you're very welcome. I don't recommend often to other channels. But I think this really adds to the details of the importance of the gown.
@@anniejuan1817 yeah, I really enjoyed it from a clothing historian perspective to add to Lorry's video. It gives you the ability to see things from the importance of the gown, plus the part Lorry adds with Kim.
I love to see updates, nice of you to approach this. could you do a video about anya taylor joy? she always looked so good, but her face changed a lot in the last couple of years (and of course she still looks gorgeous), I don't think it's just aging, I'd love to see your opinion!
I thought her overall look was so unflattering for her. It was truly said, because she is a beautiful woman. The year before was definitely on point and gorgeous.
I think it’s also interesting to compare body types that are trending through time periods. When Marilyn was considered an hourglass bombshell with a crazy figure, here comes the modern day Kardashian clan trying to outdo it by any means necessary, to the point where they just look cartoonish. Marilyn had her own surgeries done, but mostly on the face (rhinoplasty and possible eyelift), but her weight fluctuated and we were able to see her real body. Such a shame that Kim tried to stuff herself into this dress that completely didn’t fit her or match her skin tone.
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Kim could have paid someone to recreate a own custom fit dress for her own body and skin tone and said it was inspired by Marylin.
Apparently she did. She had an exact replica made and switched into that one after the red carpet. She could’ve only worn the replica & that would’ve been more respectful & better received.
I believe she did wear a replica later on during the event, but she still had the audacity to wear the dress down the red carpet.
@@duhrtydiana The company that owns some of Marilyn’s items contacted Kim. They wanted Kim to wear her dresses.
Yeah that's exactly what she should have done, not wear the original dress itself that doesn't match or fit her, that is made of irreplaceable silk that isn't made anymore. Her sweating in a historical artifact made it's preservation life much shorter 😭
@@MarianaCervantes she didn't have the replica made herself, ripley's made it shortly after they procured the original dress. the replica didn't fit correctly either, although they made some alterations so it at least closed.
When I first saw she wore Marilyn Monroe’s dress, I didn’t care too much and thought people were being dramatic. However, when I learned that the dress was made specifically for her, literally sewn onto her to fit every curve of her body, and made to match her exact skin tone, my whole opinion changed. It wasn’t just some random dress, it was for Marilyn only, and to even dare to wear that dress seems very entitled to me.
I’m a librarian so for a lot of us it’s a preservation thing too. That dress has a special place in history and really shouldn’t be worn.
Kim K. Is probably thinking about wearing one of Elvis' jumpsuits to next year's Met Gala!! Nn But I don't think Priscilla and Lisa Marie will allow that!! 🤡 👗 🐷 🐖
"Entitled" is Kim's middle name.
Fabric is the toughest material to preserve. Worse than paper and even some foods! This kind of artifact should be in a temperature controlled room, with no lights and should hardly be touched at all! Not only is disrespectful towards marilyn and the designer, but it's reckless and dangerous.
Agreed. She humiliated herself by trying to make it work for her
Mariah Carey said that she could've gotten this dress for herself years ago coz Marilyn is one of her biggest icons (even naming her daughter Monroe) but out of respect for her legacy, she didn't. She only bought Marilyn's grand piano and a makeup compact and took care of it ever since.
Mariah Carrey is a true talented individual that understands and respects Marilyn’s legacy that’s awesome I didn’t know that… She should’ve bought it
Honestly wish she'd bought it :(
She must be regret. Never thought about anyone would dare to mess that priceless dress.
I don't understand why this dress wasn't in the Smithsonian Museum, then it dawne on me, that the association with the event (JFK's birthday and Marilyn) would have caused some of society to get all nuts and crazy and on their highhorses. I've been there and was surpised to see, Archie Bunker's Chair, The original dresses worn by the Supremes from their first apperance on the Ed Sullivan show' & Dorthy's red shoes from the Wizard of Oz movie. It is too bad in someway that Mariah didn't buy it and then perhaps donate it to the museum. Mariah🌟🌺
Mariah has always shown respect to talented people who came before her so of course she showed respect by not wearing the dress. Mariahs on a whole other strasophere from that other woman.
She has access to the most beautiful gowns any woman could want and designers that could make her dreams come true but she chooses to wear Marilyn’s dress for five minutes
She should be ashamed of herself for damaging the Marilyn dress, both in the physical and spiritual sense. That act was beyond disrespectful to the legacy of the dress and Marilyn Monroe. Her Narcissism is through the roof.👎
It's strange that the dress was so sexy on Marilyn, and so unremarkable on Kim.
I agree
Missed the mark MM was so naturally sexy
To me it is not strange - Kim is totally asexual. Whatever she wears, I can see only plastic, not womanity.
@@patrycjabok-metelska4726 "Womanhood"? "Womanity", lmao.. that is a great made-up word though, hahah
I completely agree..I believe it's just the blatant disrespect that's most appalling to everyone! Also also I don't know if anyone else knew this but the whole met gala theme was Gilded age which was between 1870-1900..how does wearing a dress from 1962 fit AT ALL? I find the entire thing just downright disappointing
I like how Kim said she lost 16 pounds to "fit" in the dress when it literally still didn't even fit. If you can't do a dress up and have to leave a large portion of the back open, it doesn't fit honey. I'm a size 6-8 but could fit into a 2-4 if I left half of the back open too. That doesn't mean I'm all of a sudden a size 2 lol
Haha omg yes! You said it perfectly girl :)
Louder.
She fit into it, her diaper just didn’t.
Lol
I feel like the 16 lbs thing is a lie because she is too embarrassed to admit that the dress didnt fit her at all! Her butt was hanging out 🤣
Marilyn's dress looks like a completely different dress on Kim. You wouldn't even be able to identify it if you didn't already know the significance, so I'm not even sure what the point was. She looks terrible in it, and the dress is absolutely ruined. Abby Cox did a great video about the ethics of it, or lack thereof.
I watched one by Costume and Conservation
Yesss finally someone said it!
Agreed. I saw Marilyn sing Happy Birthday to Pres. Kennedy in that dress. She was breathtaking. Kim didn't come close. It didn't even look like the same dress. The reason she had a fur on was because the dress could not be closed over her butt.
You can also blame Ripley's believe it or not for destroying Marilyn's dress to pacify Kim Kardashian
So true bestie
As a Marilyn m lover, I was hurt, livid, and disgusted she wore that. How much did she pay to wear that piece of American history? And it was all around a terrible stunt including the diet that ultimately projected to the public. Thanks for covering this!
I was livid also, that was a piece of history and what I would consider sacred. How disrespectful to Marilyn, Kim is so entitled that it makes me nauseous. She's a totally average person and it's beyond me why she is a star, KK has done nothing inspirational in her life and has zero talent. Not to mention that there was no way that she did not damage that dress in some way.
Dae I mean Marilyn was so used in her life, now even in her death this happens. Caretakers of Marilyn's personal clothing ought to be held accountable. Treating her icon dresses as if they were running a celebrity jumble sale. 💔🙄
Nothing. The museum approached her for publicity for the event.
@@lavenderbee3611 I’m not a fan of the Kardashian/Jenners- especially Kim- because I believe the product they are selling is dangerous, but they DO have a talent for marketing and selling that product, which is themselves.
ironically, if kim still had her natural skin tone and butt, she probably would have looked a lot better in the dress! i agree and think we look best when we work with our features rather than against them, but kim is at the point where pretty much none of her features are natural. personally i still find her "before" photos more beautiful. but i definitely don't envy the pressure of hollywood. i'm my own worst critic already and i can only imagine.
So true, she should stop using tan. Her natural beauty is amazing. These fake beauty standards are really trash and dangerous.
I thought her natural skin tone was also pretty tanned and, like, olive? Because of her ethnic background?
@@alexbennet4195 it is. Norma jean was of Scandinavian decent. Very fair.
@@alexbennet4195 It's not anymore, she darkens her skin.
@@alexbennet4195 i was just saying her natural skin tone is closer to marilyn's than her skin tone is now. she likely uses tanning injections as many in hollywood do unfortunately. and yes, her natural skin tone i think is somewhat olive. and it was beautiful imo
Kim could've been sewn into a replica, same as Marilyn, as an ode to the original dress. The dress was designed to match Marilyn's skin tone, Kim easily could've done the same. This was entirely needless sacrilege of a historical artefact and I will die on this hill.
After the red carpet ceremony, Kim did change into a replica. The dress is owned by Ripley Entertainment and they endorsed her wearing it. She could not have worn it without their blessing. Still a dubious idea, for sure!
@@CathyS_Bx That doesn't make her or Ripley any less innocent. It's a sacrilege against historical artifacts anyway, and a terrible precedent to create.
yeah...KK was sandwiched into the MM dress in an anteroom, hobbled out and up some steps then changed into the replica.
Seriously, we all knew that dress was NOT ever going to fit KK body! not with a 16 lb weight loss or the most heavy duty skims! KK is also inches shorter than MM!
Her strategically placed white 'fur' jacket/stole was a dead giveaway that her 'enhanced' rear end was hanging out!
Hear, hear!
@@CathyS_Bx Ripleys isn’t a museum and doesn’t have to adhere to museum laws. Garments in museum collections are not to be worn because every time you wear something there is damage to the garment, not to mention the light bleaching. That’s why nobody wore gilded age clothing. It exists, it would just be against regulation to wear. Ripleys made a poor decision allowing her to wear that and lost their chance at ever becoming an accredited museum, something they tried to do several times in the past. It’s definitely causing a lot of waves in the historical community and many fashion conservationists have spoken about it. Hopefully we don’t see other OOAK garments mishandled for the sake of publicity.
It’s sad that it would NEVER be the last time Marilyn wore the dress. That is ruined. Can’t believe this was allowed. I would never see this dress in display now. Makes me mad that rich people are always so entitled.
Ikr 😢😤
@zummy2007 exactly. It’s disrespectful to begin with, but for me, it’s the way Marilyn Monroe passed that makes the situation totally unethical. Her death at such a young age was tragic, unexpected, and unresolved. This dress - which was a huge part of Marilyn’s legacy - was the last dress she wore at a public appearance. It just makes no sense for anyone to ever want to wear it.
Kim is a narcissistic
@@christinahighsmith4453 there are so many other dresses she could have worn that would have matched her skintone better and accentuated her looks better too.
Omfg, it's just a freaking dress! It's still the same as it always was. I can't believe that with everything going on in the world, people are getting butt hurt over a bloody dress..
i never knew kim was 5’2. it’s just proof we really don’t know these celebs. her photos are always taken in such an elongated way??? im actually shook!
It happens with most of these influencers, they use a lot of photoshop and editing. It’s so subtle now days that it’s hard to spot or be aware of it. They portray an illusion that they’re re tall or of average height or have all these beautiful features but were you to see them in real life, they would look completely different.
What is more ironic? Marilyn was 5'5. Kim could not fit into a dress of someone far taller even after starving herself and reducing her surgeries.
She looks like a garden gnome. Really squatty
Kim is 5’3” and Marilyn was 5’5 1/2”.
It depends on the body type. (Think the Kibbe system, if you don’t it know by now) Usually people with smaller heads look a little taller in pictures and vice versa.
I always thought Lady Gaga looks taller in pictures, and she’s only 5”2
never knew such an iconic historical dress could look so distasteful on someone. she has no respect towards the late Marilyn Monroe and this action was out of pure vanity.
Still 60 years after her death, heartless, selfish people cannot let Marylin and her legacy Rest In Peace
It would have been interesting to see her in a replica that matched her skintone and was sewn onto her just like Marilyn. She could have chosen an appropriate hair color, with Marilyn esque touches that paid homage respectfully. Instead, she put on Marilyn like a costume, as she did with Black women's aesthetic.
The thing is that... SHE SWITCHED TO A REPLICA AFTER SHE GOT OFF THE RED CARPET. Which boggles my mind of why she just didn't wear the one that fit HER instead.
All she does is heavy handed and classless I hate this style, kardashians are the opposite of good taste fr
@@danijackie oh wow.. I didn’t know that, she could’ve paid a homage to Marilyn 🤦♀️
You said it all
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The designer himself who made the dress for Marylin and Marylin alone, just came out today saying it was one of the biggest mistakes he’s ever seen and is shocked how it even happened. You can even see photos of him escorting Marylin that night.
Not only because it’s Marylin Monroe and that dress was the last dress she wore in a public outing as she died a few weeks later from the event wearing that dress, but that dress was important to American History.
I don’t know how many times it has to be said but damn it, #ARTIFACTSARENOTACCESSORIES!!!
Edit: Thank you for the likes and conversation- I’m glad people agree :)
where is the receipts
@@erosbutyassified You have access to Google, do you not?
@@sherryelle2242 clearly
@@erosbutyassified receipts for what? This dress should’ve been on the Smithsonian Museum, not on someone’s body.
She died from wearing the dress?
I think her loosing the weight for the dress was used as a cover for her having a hip a butt reduction in general.
I agree with you!!
How the hell did Kim get her hands on this historical dress? well it was a huge failure because the dress did not LIKE HER!!!
She must always be in a state of recovery from procedures - it’s astonishing.
Exactly
I was just thinking about whether it would be possible to make a timeline of procedures like Zac Efron's potential ones based on their filming/public appearance schedule
No kidding!
It makes me wonder about the state of her immune system, it must be exhausting? idk
@@thesleepinggirl Infact she notoriiusly got auto immune disease and psoriasis.... And I am sorry
What's nuts is Marilyn was always touted as the 'curvy' queen of that era yet based off her measurements she is still incredibly small! Media's perception of body sizes is so damaging
That is what I noticed when I was doing a presentation about Marilyn at 15. I was wondering how these measurements were any kind of way big or unseenly curvy. Yes slim curvy and she had breast implants later in yms. (I encourage you to watch Lorrys analysis on Marilyn Monroes Plastic Surgery. : )Those implants (or whatever they used in the 50s) made her look bigger. Hew weist was so tiny. She was pregnant and bigger on Some Like it Hot era, but was very slim again at the early sixties. Some ppl got their facts messed up. Also it is medias presentation that Marilyn was sooo curvy.
Curvy is not necessarily plus sized or big. It’s just a body type where the bust and hip and bigger than the waist. Not saying it’s something to put this body type on a pedestal, but that’s what curvy is.
@@chiravuris I agree, but I wouldn't even consider her specific measurements to be considered curvy. I have the same as hers but with the breast and hip sizes swapped, and I very much consider myself petite.
@@harliecurcio1705 Isn’t 36-24-36 considered as the typical curvy body? You can be petite and curvy too.
My waist and hip measurements are 24-34 too but I look like I've got slight curves and they're nothing like what Marilyn Monroe had. I know people with the same measurements can look different but I wonder if these measurements given here are accurate. I don't trust what the media says/said.
i know it’s “just fabric” but that’s a $10 million dress that was last worn by MM. now it’s last worn by KK…it’s been stretched out, probably missing crystals and it’s been stepped on. it’s fine if you don’t care but some people do because she literally destroyed an artefact.
Exactly
Some people like to believe that emotional value doesn't exist but when enough people find it emotionally valuable they'll pay millions for it and it will turn into real value.. that dress was sawn right onto Marilyn while she was completely nude beneath, it might sound stupid to some but to hardcore fans they would find emotional value in the fact that the dress was littered with Marilyn's DNA, I feel like Kim wearing it is an emotional molestation in a sense. Not to mention it looks really bad with her skincolor and figure
Should never have been worn by anyone. She has detracted from it's value ☹️
@agh yeah like in that case the original american flag was just a piece of fabric too and the constitution is just a piece of paper, but i bet a lot of people would riot if you told them *that* 🙄. Technically anything and everything is just this or just that, but it’s about the significance it was given in the moment and all the significance it has collected over the years. So what if you specifically don’t care? Some people do, and that’s what the discussion is about.
And it’s probably got spray tan stains all over it.
Legendary Fashion Icon Bob Mackie said it best, "Nobody else should be seen in that dress." - Bob Mackie.💯
Why the F did they risk damaging a historical dress? And for "who"? Seriously?!! Did she run out of dresses or out of money to pay for a new dress?
That dress was revolutionary! It was meant to accentuate her figure and make her appear "nude" which is why the fabric was covered in rhinestones to make her look naked and matched her skin tone. Kim completely made the dress look cheap and trashy with her spray tan 😬😬😬
Also, the dress didn't even fit Kim which is why she wore that fur wrap for the back.
Yup
Because she is...cheap and tacky.
Sadly the dress will always be associated with Kim now and it taints the story one of the most iconic dresses in history.
Fun fact: Marilyn was actually naked under that dress, no undergarments whatsoever
I couldn’t stop thinking how that spray tan probably stained the dress. What a shame that one’s ego could be so great.
This family is just so disrespectful. Marilyn dress was made to fit her and her skin tone. Kim made it look so cheap and she greatly devalued that gown.
Totally agree.
Agree!
Agreed as well. It didn’t look nice on her. If she had had a similar dress made specifically for her and her skin tone to “pay homage” to Marilyn and the designer… I don’t think people would have been so upset
@@DaringDanielletravels exactly. We all know darker skin looks better with all colours. Even though Kim uses fake tan to get the skin colour of other ethnicities other than YT.
Well kim bought the marilyn dress for herself so she has the right to do whatever she wants with that dress and wear it during met. I don’t see any disrespectfulness with that.
People are like “it’s just a dress!”
Yes, but it was marilyns dress. Custom fit for her. Yet Kim had to wear it and force it on. Not everything needs to be touched by a kardashian.. or even touched at all. I said what I said.
Apparently Marilyn did not want anyone wearing the dress.
They’re bitter because they can’t wear Marilyn’s dress 💅🏻
@@kenziej4301 u look embarrassing
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It is just a dress... now let's have some strange that has no respect for the man using Ayrton Senna's helmet and see how it goes.😂Brazilians would be nad AF. Senna was a F1 pilot that died some almost 30 years ago, but is still very beloved here in Brazil.
Lori you're literally my go to channel and person when I feel like I need a sanctuary to feel safe in away from all the anxieties and self insecurities THANK YOU !
Great job Lorry! I am amazed at how classy and professional you are in your synopsis yet you are still giving us things to speculate and ponder about. It's almost like you are a lawyer/detective in the cosmetic world! You are such a light for women in general!!!
Disgusting she tried to squeeze into it and then they added a string to pull it together UGH 🤦♀️ Should of never been worn, it looked terrible on her. Sorry I loved MM and how dare her.
y'all are horrible it's literally not that serious at all. she looked great in the dress
@@theonlytinoxl She didn’t. The color and fit looked bad.
@@theonlytinoxl No, but it really is that serious. As a celebrity who’s whole career is about her body and looks she is setting a terrible example. Her behavior is perpetuating eating disorders. To starve yourself for 21 days in order to fit into a dress for a couple hours is extremely disturbing
@@theonlytinoxl garment history IS actually a valid and serious trade. And no, she didn't look great, she couldn't even walk. Like too much sausage in not enough casing.
You would 🤔 she would of found another after when it didn’t fit, it look hilarious tied like that 🤣
I’ve watched a few videos done by textile & fashion historians. They wholly criticized KK for damaging this historical dress. The oils of the body, the handling of the fabric, & just even wearing it destroys the fabric.
The dragqueen in a queen dress..
@Sunaina Stargirl they flew it to her on a private jet with guards! It’s so crazy. If you have to go through all of that, just make your own design that matches the met gala.
@Sunaina Stargirl it was in a Ripley’s museum! They allowed her to borrow it. It should be in the Smithsonian!
@Sunaina Stargirl I agree. But I don’t think Ripley’s Believe It or Not would be concerned with the historical value of the dress. They get publicity & probably some cash from KK.
@@cherylmclemore66 Pattison bought it for $4.8 mil and let her trash it for $5 mil.
Agree with ALL the comments in the last couple of minutes. The whole point of the dress (on Marilyn, originally) was for it to look like she was barely wearing anything, because of how it matched 1. Her skin tone, and 2. Her body shape. The dress did not match Kim's skin or body shape, so the dress was pointless on her.
Hi Lorry, I'm glad you mentioned rib removal. I've thought for months that Kim has had her bottom rib removed to exceituate her waist being so much smaller.
I enjoy your videos. Thankyou for your propective
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Genuinely didn't think Kim could get any tackier; she could NEVER be anything close to Marilyn and her audacity knows no bounds 😭😒 love you Lorry 💕
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Definitely couldn’t get any tackier, I feel like the media wants us to overdose on the Kardashians! It’s really tiresome to hear about millionaires and billionaires that really do nothing for the good of society (or anyone but themselves) problems like we should care and relate to them!
Bro chill, hating on one woman to boost another woman is what's really tacky
@@robinw.2685 not hating, just calling tacky tacky sorry!
I wanna know who the hell even lets her wear it. That’s ridiculous.
wow this makes me think she knew she was never going to fully fit into the dress and has known it for a while and didn't care about stretching it out and damaging it
She definitely knew she wouldn't fit and did it anyway 😡
The measurements alone let you know she can’t fit it. She didn’t ever need to try it on. The gown was custom
Yeah, she was never gonna fit :(
I am sceptical she used the diet to fit to hide the reductions she clearly has had done.
I am so sad that someone rich is able to just do whatever they want and be SO entitled. Is she going to go to the natural history museum next and buy up ancient Egyptian artifacts to use as accessories. It leaves a bad taste and is really disrespectful :(
P.s I love your channel BTW. Just spotted the name on this comment.
Very disrespectful of KK. That dress was custom made for Marilyn and deserves to remain untouched. Thank you for your coverage on this, I saw the video where the historian explained what you stated here.
She’s nothing like Marilyn and hasn’t gone through HALF of what Marilyn did. She’s a wannabe
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And now the rumors have been confirmed, the dress has been indeed, damaged. Ripley’s greed has no limits and no respect for Marilyn.
This is BY FAR the most honest and candid review you’ve ever given! Every detail clarified. Excellent job.
Thank you !
If she wanted to achieve the same look, she could have had a designer create something exactly for her body! That would have been iconic
Not good enough for her. She wanted the status of wearing the dress. Disgusting!
Disrespectful towards Marilyn. Marilyn told her designer that she wanted a dress only Marilyn could wear and kk Didn't even look good in it nor did it even fit. All for her EGO!!
Wow!!! Thank you so much for the likes guys!! Remember everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I hope you all have a great day! Thanks so much :)
I mean, clothes are meant to be worn
Sorry Marilyn that the fashion industry didn't respect your wishes.
Or fit in it
@KMH I agree with you , that dress should’ve been left alone..it’s no hate towards kk but some things that was for the older icon celebs doesn’t need to be touch nor wore, put her dress back in a keepsake box
Marilyn is over hyped by the white community ! She is not a big deal and Kim already surpassed her in legacy. Kim is just clueless now that Kanye is gone.
This is absolutely the most impeccably worded opinion I’ve heard of this situation so far. Thank you for being tasteful when talking about the patterns of starvation/binge eating.
Exactly, Lorri is always kind on this subject
You should watch Abby Cox's video on it. She goes into how absolutely problematic Kim's statements were and does a deep dive on why wearing that dress was flat out, not okay.
Agree; I don't think Kim should be scolded for simply admitting publicly what every other single celebrity does all the time secretly. It's an unrealistic standard, but most people say 'I don't have to diet or exercise!!!1!' which is deceptive.
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As someone in recovery from an eating disorder, hearing how much weight she lost in such a short time and the rumours about how she did it was VERY appealing to my eating disorder. Luckily, I'm recovered enough not to take action based on it, but I know there are so many people out there with eating disorders and body insecurities who would have felt awful on hearing about her crash diet, and who would have acted on those feelings. Considering that the Kardashians have spoken out about having insecurities about their bodies and that all bodies are beautiful (although that does seem to be more of a sales schtick than anything), it's sickening that they continue to do these stupid diets and brag about it.
Great video, I used to have so many issues about my body. I was heavy for most of my life and decided at 28 that I wanted to be healthier, and I did just that. I have so much confidence in myself now, and this video made me realize that my healthy choices are lifelong, bc I took my time. I lost about 76 pounds over the course of 3 years just from walking and adopting a vegan lifestyle. I kicked it up a notch by doing dance workouts, and from there I started doing home weight lifting and my body has never looked better. I always say that if I had the money when I was younger I would've gotten so much plastic surgery, because I was so insecure. This is not judgement on anyone, I just can truly relate to feeling like man I'm not thin enough, I'm not pretty enough. Kim is gorgeous inside and out, I hope that she knows that as well, and anyone struggling I hope that you realize that you are gorgeous inside and out. Do whatever brings you peace and love whether that be exercise, or surgery. As long as it is done in a safe and healthy space.
Marilyn went through so much and is still being disrespected in death. I think it’s creepy wearing an item of someone who is deceased.
A huge majority of vintage clothing found in stores previously belonged to dead people. When one of my dearest friends died, her sister gave me a ton of her clothes because she knew that we had the same taste. When I wear one of my friend’s dresses, I feel close to her. I think about where we were going when I last saw her wear it and it makes me smile. I really feel this way when I wear jewelry that belonged to my mother and grandmother that are deceased. It doesn’t feel creepy to me at all.
I forgot to mention that I didn’t like the idea that KK wore the dress. I think that it should never be available for loan by anyone. If I were a celebrity and the owner asked me to wear it, I would have said thank for the honor of being asked, but I will decline your offer.
@@mufferducker822 Pause. Hold up . SHE WORE HER HAIR ? Im so confused 😭😭😭???
@@allisonbell2234 This definitely isn’t wrong, totally justified.
However what kim did, she did with the wrong intentions, that’s all .
Creepy? I wear dead peoples clothes from thrift shops all the time. I think it’s tacky and disrespectful to wear Marilyn’s dress specifically, but dead people don’t need clothes. Thrifting and passing things down helps the environment. But I get where you’re coming from in this case.
Kim is just desperate and sad. She craves attention, no matter if good or bad, just to stay relevant. It's sick. It's disgusting. When will it stop?!
When people stop paying attention to her and she stops earning money from it. Ironically, this exchange between us right now is exactly what she wants.
It won’t stop because she achieved her objective - controversy! She’ll do it again, unfortunately
you know what's even more sad? her entire family is like that.
she will, when society stop treating human bodies as trends, which, will sadly never happen.
So was Marilyn in the 50s. Both are icons.
Bob Mackie (legendary designer most famous for creating Cher’s looks) spoke out against marilyn’s historical garment being worn. So did fashion conservators. I feel like it’s not right considering they had to ruin it in order for Kim to wear it.
Also sending love and support to your family Lorry 💖🇺🇦
Some things are just better left alone, and Marilyns' dress is definitely one of them!
Marilyn Monroe DRESS IS BROKEN!!! She break the ziper and fabric.... OMG.... all for KK ego.... she MUST be SUED, this is an INSULT.
She had no business wearing that dress. That is all.
Amen sister.
Funny thing is that after all of this effort the dress wasn’t even on theme ! This was all unnecessary and inexplicable
This annoyed me so much if you do this, than at least make it make sense..
@@mirabohm7865 yeah man it’s just worthless
Oh, but in a way, it was perfectly on-theme! The Gilded Age was a time when the appearance of wealth and glamor was only a thin veneer covering the reality of rot, entitlement and inequality. Marilyn's dress on Kim seems a very good example of this dichotomy.
@@anniejuan1817 You have an excellent point right there! Gotta give that to you 👌🏻
Kim literally tore that dress apart and rendered it worthless as what made it iconic and valuable historically is that Marilyn was the ONLY and LAST person to have worn it. How haughty and self-absorbed. Truly sad.
Marilyn has been gone for 56 years and they continue to exploit her even after her death. Leave her alone this is the last thing she would have wanted! And then the fact that Kim was given her a lock of Marilyn's hair is absolutely appalling. While Marilyn was alive she was treated like something to be sold..please just leave her, her clothes, and her legacy alone!
I don't understand how she was able to wear the dress. Marilyn had no Kim K butt so NO WAY the dress would fit. We're they so AFRAID to tell Kim No she can't wear it because she can't fit it. Dress was for Marilyn real shape not the BUILD A BODY
she looked terrible in MM’s dress. she looked super uncomfortable, she could’nt even walk, you can literally see how tight the dress was it was distorted on her body. Pete was holding on to her for dear life lmao.
Nobody can be comfortable in a dress where the butt is hanging out.
The thing is, while she didn’t look good in the dress, she garnered the attention she worked very hard to get. When was the Met Gala, weeks ago?
Facts cuz I stopped paying attention to the met gala tbh 😂 it’s so trashy now
2 weeks ago
Yes, anything for attention
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA so true, too bad she had to just about destroy a piece of Marilyn and Kennedy and fashion history in the process! typical rich spoiled selfish frivolous woman getting her way yet again!
I was wondering how she could have fit into Marilyn's dress. thanks for the clarity, Lorry.
I’m more upset that she wore the original dress that Marylin wore, and ruined it’s original status, I also agree with what you mentioned when it comes to her colouring.
Thanks for the info. As a person who's a recovering anorexic (even at my age - still recovering), it's very refreshing to be shown what is and has been done to achieve whatever shape a celebrity is going for. Yes, thank you.
It’s very difficult not to compare your body to others and to not feel bad about yourself given the beauty standards that we can’t escape seeing everywhere. We should learn to accept and love ourselves how we are.
fr man, the other day i saw a girl on TH-cam with size 0 getting skinny shamed and recieving comments such as 'damn you're flat' 'go eat something, flat ass' 'you look like a guy with that flat chest'. little do they know that her body was the beauty standard in the 90s' heroin chic era, that thousands of girls used to starve themselves and feel bad when they don't have that "flat" body, and that today's standard, the slim-thick hourglass figure, was considered "fat" back then. these beauty standards are ridiclous, man.
and stop following those celebrities, Kim K. is NOT natural is fake
Sorry idk if you guys are a big fan of kardashians but as an asian I only know they exist back on 2019. and when I first saw them I already knew they don't look natural🤣 the beauty standard that they are trying to set is the people with colors and they mix it in their obviously white skin. 🥴 idk why people think it looks good on them when it's all surgery🤦♀️ they just snatch all of the beauty traits of each ethnicity and injected it in their bodies🤦♀️
You saved me like $500-$600 and you don’t even know it! Lol! I was a huge fan of Doja Cat and I was going to buy tickets to see her on tour but after seeing how horrible she was to you I will not give her a penny of my money. You’re super sweet and never say anything negative about anyone in your videos. I’m pretty sure she got so aggressive towards you because every single procedure you said she had was the TRUTH!!!
she had every right to be upset but how she reacted and words she used were just mean af
@@skaio.5279 I missed this saga. What happened? Please let us know.
Girl don't ever spend that much money for celebrities...spend it on yourself and loved ones..most celebs are horrible behind the screen.
@@thefoodproject7559 You’re so right!! ☺️
Doja had a right to be upset, but she was definitely really rude towards lorry
It makes me soooo mad Kim has this dress. IT SHOULD BE IN A FRIGGIN MUSEUM!!!!!! NOT TOUCHED, NOT WORN! Shes stretching it, ruining it!! The dress itself is legendary and a relic. Godamnit, celebrities always gets their will, f them
I agree but when you said “ she’s stretching it “ I laughed quite a bit .. 😂
Technically it is, Ripley's allowed Kim to wear it. However, I do believe the dress should be in the Smithsonian instead of Ripleys. (Even though it is the most expensive dress)
To quote Michelle Visage, it’s a piece of fabric
Perhaps it should be in a museum, but it wasn’t. It was at ripleys. If it had been in a museum she wouldn’t have been able to get it.
A relic?
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I agree with you on everything, Lorry! You know exactly what you're talking about and I love your channel!
Marilyn wore the dress, it did not wear her. Her figure was beyond beautiful and sexy. The biggest take home for me is once again acknowledging what a true beauty Marilyn was. ❤️💋
I’m more disappointed in Ripley’s decision to lend her a dress that clearly doesn’t fit. We know Kim would do anything to get the limelight and it worked.
Marilyn was on a whole other level honey. Kim, or anyone else for that matter, would never do Marilyn’s dress justice.
Agreed
I wonder if KK realised that people were looking at the dress, and not at her! There is a difference.
Lorry can you please do a video on rib removal and its negative consequences?
I can’t decided if I’m more pissed at Kim or whoever gave her permission to wear it. Disgusting all the way around.
Now everyone knows Ripley's can be bribed.
Is Kim in pain? It seems she gets something done every couple months. Shes gotta be taking pain pills all the time. I personally think Kim's bottom half looks better now. The bbl she had before was looked ridiculous. 😬 Its sad Kim still pulls these stunts for attention after the success she's had. The dress looked horrible on her. It should've stayed in the museum.
That's a good point. She also has a very busy life so she must be tired and in pain all the time. She might be on controlled pain meds
I can't even tell y'all how bad my blood was BOILING bc she wore Marilyn's dress! I'm a HUGEEEE Marilyn Monroe fan & I could feel my blood pressure going up as they raked their hands up the rhinestones on her dress! You can LITERALLY see the stress marks from the dress stretching over her hips😤
SAME!! I'm still fuming like a chimney!
I couldn’t BELIEVE they let her take that dress! I mean, that proves, money DOES talk!
Don't worry Marilyn Monroe's spirit is going to knock some sense into Kim's head.
yeah...Marilyn herself wanted it not to be worn by anybody else...and whats even more disturbing is that Kim got gifted Marilyns HAIR , thats just sooo messed up , sooo disrespectful...she was a real human beign and Kim holds piece of her hair like a some kind of sick trophy as an history student I find it soo disrespectful towards Marilyn.
@@HK-gm8pe LOL I forgot about that! They've reported that it wasn't in fact Marilyn's hair because of the timeline of who was her hair dresser at the time and how the hair was acquired.
The dress was left open in the back and she kept her fur wrap around her the entire time until she was inside. Once she she was inside she changed into a replica dress that was made for HER. She stated these facts a couple of weeks after the event.
Why??? So she didn’t even fit the dress in the end. Why they took the risk on this historic garment is beyond me.
Marilyn was a very natural, earthy woman with normal proportions. And it makes me cross Kim Kardashian actually thought she could rival Marilyn, such arrogance.
She couldnt even if she tried wt a billion dollars.
Marilyn was so self actualized and cared for people and beautiful soul who has love for life and simple things
And this right here is why I trust Loris opinion. She was the only 1 speaking about the BBL reduction a whole year earlier, which tells you just how accurate her observations are. Thank you for another great video 🙏
I was about to write the same. This is why I also trust Lorrys opinion. She has amazing eye and great knowledge about these things. 👏
So despicable, disgusting and infuriating that because of Kim’s ego, she put in danger and almost broke a frágil and iconic dress that Marilyn Monroe wore. Not just a fashion history piece, it’s one of a kind
They literally always do this with historical pieces, people just don't know this bc 1. they don't care or 2. not much buzz is made about it
Love this channel it is respected and genuine.
I love your videos and your honest takes on the entertainment industry. Thanks.
That dress was made for Marilyn and Marilyn alone. It fit her like a glove 😍 the color against her skin tone married each other so well and it outlined her natural beauty like an unwritten poem.
That being said, Kim shouldn’t have worn it and like Lorry said, it wasn’t her best Met Gala look. She could of had someone recreate a similar dress but with a twist or a couple! It’s very disrespectful and wrong. If she truly was a Marilyn fan, she would have known and done her homework.
The entertainment industry is horrendous and this woman represents it perfectly
Kim took one of the classiest dresses in history and made it look cheap and ratchet while disrespecting the deceased former owner in the process. Tragic
LOVE your channel and presentation. Classy and understated and full of information. I feel so much better about my own beauty thanks to you 💜
This dress was custom for MARILYN. It is ICONIC to HER. Sorry, but WHO authorized giving the okay to have Marilyn's dress borrowed by Kim? She doesn't have an ounce of class as Marilyn did. Not a good "fit." Period. Why couldn't Kim have had another dress custom made for her? Is Kim comparing herself to Marilyn? Don't think so, hon.
No matter if Kim loses or gains weight or has surgery, she will never achieve the style and natural elegance of Marylin. There are things that you can't buy. She is embarrassing.
Her team led her astray on this look. Whoever owned Marilyn's dress should have practiced more caution and been more specific w the look
I would fire people who let me go to an event looking like that!
"Ripley's Believe or Not" owned it
This stunt has forever tarnished the legacy of that dress. The dress was valuable because it was very provocative for the time, Marilyn wore it to an iconic event after which she died a few weeks later, and she was the last person to wear it. Not to mention, she wanted to be the only one to ever wear it, and it's sad her wishes weren't respected. Shame on Kim and shame on whoever allowed her to wear it.
Kim is over all a bigger woman than Marylin, it does not take a genius top foresee she would tear the old fabric of the dress up. What prompted those involved to allow the tear of the iconic dress?
I don't think Marilyn Monroe would appreciate the disrespect Kim paid to her. Kim really didn't have the right wear Marilyn's dress. Very disappointing "Riley's belive it or not"
I'm absolutely disgusted that Kim was allowed to wear and ruin Marilyn Monroe's actual dress, and so disappointed in her decision and the people at Ripley's that allowed it to happen.
Marilyn Monroe's dress with her D.N.A./oils/skin fragments/etc. should have been perfectly preserved in The Smithsonian, not worn by an attention seeker with a baboon butt for shock value!
Even if I could fit and look good in that dress, it’s a historical item, probably very fragile. Why not wear a replica? I don’t understand why she chose this look; I thought that hair looked terrible on her, I don’t understand who encouraged her to go for this look. To be compared to Marylin who definitely looked surreal in that dress?
The fact that Kim HAD to wear this dress despite the fact that it didn't even fit just shows how attention hungry she is and how little respect she actually has for Marilyn's legacy. Marilyn Monroe is the epitome of Hollywood Glamour and somehow Kim's met gala look with her hair and the makeup managed to make the iconic dress look trashy 🙃 If your intention is to honour Marilyn, at least do it right.
I've been watching you for a year now. Thank you for your videos, they really helped me to cope with the eternal comparison of myself to celebrity figures. And thank you also for the flag behind you. I've watched a lot of your videos during the war, helps take my mind off everything that's going on here. Pardon my English
Thank you so much ❤️
Thank you again for these videos! Kim looks so unnaturally "thin" in her neck and breast area, the dress you could tell didn't fit right. The one celebrity who I recall being very upfront about literal starvation (even reducing his water intake) to make his skin and muscles look more prominent on screen was Henry Cavill. The famous bathtub scene in the Witcher, although nice on the eyes, was unbearably unhealthy for him.
Another TH-camr named Abby Cox made a really good video regarding Kim wearing Marilyn Monroe's dress. It was really well put from a fashion historian for anyone interested.
Thank you!
Abby Cox's video on this was great!
@@michellerains2732 you're very welcome. I don't recommend often to other channels. But I think this really adds to the details of the importance of the gown.
@@anniejuan1817 yeah, I really enjoyed it from a clothing historian perspective to add to Lorry's video. It gives you the ability to see things from the importance of the gown, plus the part Lorry adds with Kim.
I love to see updates, nice of you to approach this. could you do a video about anya taylor joy? she always looked so good, but her face changed a lot in the last couple of years (and of course she still looks gorgeous), I don't think it's just aging, I'd love to see your opinion!
I second this!
i just hope she can relax in her own skin for a bit
I thought her overall look was so unflattering for her. It was truly said, because she is a beautiful woman. The year before was definitely on point and gorgeous.
Lorry roasting the hell out of Kim for her improper (and quite honestly entitled) use of the dress restored my brain
I think it’s also interesting to compare body types that are trending through time periods. When Marilyn was considered an hourglass bombshell with a crazy figure, here comes the modern day Kardashian clan trying to outdo it by any means necessary, to the point where they just look cartoonish. Marilyn had her own surgeries done, but mostly on the face (rhinoplasty and possible eyelift), but her weight fluctuated and we were able to see her real body. Such a shame that Kim tried to stuff herself into this dress that completely didn’t fit her or match her skin tone.