Can a trad route be full value E8 when the gear is pre placed? Surely the adjective grade is to include how it is to put gear in whilst leading it. Still beast climbing 🧗♂️
Totally depends on the route doesn't it. If placing the kit is the crux or especially hard then yes, but many routes even hard ones you place from a rest.
For anyone confused by the need for a rope on The Keswickian : bowlandclimber.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/sam_2596-e1434146164326.jpg , the route takes the hanging arete of the upper slab high on the right. There's a fairly large fallout zone below the crux and a bad landing below that.
The rope protects the crux overhang, even with it getting caught, the landing is terrible otherwise. There's no gear on the slab, and it's only 5c from the shake-out footledge. The anchor was the top-roping anchor left in from practising the FA.
Wish they didn't have the annoying stigma against bolting in the UK it means everyone has to buy a full rack just to start climbing here it's frustrating
@@ritid69 If rock falls from above then a helmet helps a lot. Or if you fall down and your head is more secured against injuries. You have no idea what you are talking about, right?
GE KO calculated risk perhaps, Route looks clean. I’m sure HE knows what he is doing, considering the grade he is climbing at. Maybe he will reevaluate his career choices due to your expert opinion......
Good movie,great routes. WTF was the background noise? Out of tune guitar etc?? Dreadful,was forced to watch with zero volume,so if there's any witticisms,I missed them.
Nice one Adam, I enjoyed this greatly.
For the first climb it seems, that using a rope at all is more hazard, than none.
Only because it got caught under the overhang, it would still protect the crux roof from a groundfall onto a terrible landing.
Can a trad route be full value E8 when the gear is pre placed? Surely the adjective grade is to include how it is to put gear in whilst leading it.
Still beast climbing 🧗♂️
Totally depends on the route doesn't it. If placing the kit is the crux or especially hard then yes, but many routes even hard ones you place from a rest.
Brilliant.
what a sick bouldery start.
superb!
For anyone confused by the need for a rope on The Keswickian : bowlandclimber.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/sam_2596-e1434146164326.jpg , the route takes the hanging arete of the upper slab high on the right. There's a fairly large fallout zone below the crux and a bad landing below that.
The Hock has spent so much time working these routes he hasn't had time to get a haircut 😄😄
Adam Hocking is The Samson of the Lakes.
first climb, why use a rope at all? places no gear, doesn't clip the anchor lol
The rope protects the crux overhang, even with it getting caught, the landing is terrible otherwise. There's no gear on the slab, and it's only 5c from the shake-out footledge. The anchor was the top-roping anchor left in from practising the FA.
Nobody complained about the pre-placed gear yet?
there's nothing to complain here. it's pink-pointed!
I agree. At some point they should just bolt the darn thing
Wish they didn't have the annoying stigma against bolting in the UK it means everyone has to buy a full rack just to start climbing here it's frustrating
@@jakeengland1430 Lots of bolts in North Wales.
Jake England climb slate
First climb is probably the most uncomfortable climb. Climbing for me, is supposed to be fun :3
It's power bouldering on excellent rock leading to a beautiful slab. What's not to like??
Those baggy trousers must be worth more than a fall: a drag if they snag...
Am I right in thinking the first one starts about 60ft up already?
It starts just above easy ground at the head of a small steep gully, so it's easy to get to the roof but relatively exposed when you start.
That would have been a bad fall on that first route!
MAD!
Bellissimo
Hard routes and no helmet.
paul mitchell and 30m off the ground with no gear..... a helmet will clearly help......
@@ritid69 you never know
@@ritid69 If rock falls from above then a helmet helps a lot. Or if you fall down and your head is more secured against injuries. You have no idea what you are talking about, right?
Agree paul. Thats stupidness at its finest
GE KO calculated risk perhaps, Route looks clean. I’m sure HE knows what he is doing, considering the grade he is climbing at.
Maybe he will reevaluate his career choices due to your expert opinion......
Good movie,great routes.
WTF was the background noise?
Out of tune guitar etc??
Dreadful,was forced to watch with zero volume,so if there's any witticisms,I missed them.
I would rather solo the first one and save my friend seeing pieces of brain on the grass below
Rope protects the crux roof, there is a terrible landing below.