Delayed Announcement | The Crown (Vanessa Kirby, Matthew Goode)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Princess Margaret (Vanessa Kirby) brings her proposal announcement to her sister Queen Elizabeth II (Claire Foy), who has both good and bad news.
From Season 2, Episode 7: Matrimonium
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Even after all these years, the line "You never did anything for Peter" has always stuck with me. Vanessa delivered this entire scene.
Vanessa was outstanding as Margaret
The way her wrist hit the table. She was done lolol
I know right ? I’ve been there with my sister as well. .....
I personally understand why Margaret reacted the way she did in this scene after the entire situation with Peter. Her fear and bottled up anger that the delay to announcing her marriage to Tony will unfold exactly as it did with Peter, not happening at all. Her fear of that happening again flooded over the fact that her sister was pregnant and Margaret was going to be an aunt. Thanks for uploading.
Lilibet was a terrible person. Always defending herself at the expense of anybody.
Plus, I mean Margaret was already an aunt. Kind of a lot to expect her to be excited about Andrew, lol.
@@Brenda-ny1gw dont talk rubbish
@@Brenda-ny1gwdid you know her Majesty personally then? This is a tv show taking full license to create drama. A monarch doesn’t get to choose their career and they don’t get to punch out at 5pm. There is no way to know how these events actually unfolded in private, it’s not a reality show lol. 🤦🏻♀️
@@glen7318she’s allowed to have an opinion.
"What bebe?"
As serious as the scene was, I always laugh at how her hand drops in annoyance to the table
ANOTHER SIX MONTHS. ANOTHER SIX MONTHS.
Ding🛎 ding🛎 ding🛎 *angerly grabs cigarettes*
MARGARET- 👁👄👁
😭🤣🤣
In hindsight what makes it worse is that the baby here is Prince Andrew.
Margaret always got screwed over.
yes she did
Margaret would have been a more interesting and Glamorous Queen.
agreed
@@user-ne3yw2cu6c rubbish.
@@user-ne3yw2cu6c Interest and glamour have nothing to do with the job of a monarch. Dull monarchs make better reigns..
How much I loved Vanessa in this role --- I cannot tell you the half of it. Everything about her.
I find it amazing how the servants (who opened the doors for Margaret to leave) are still around as Margaret and her sister carry on with their spat.
This scene was so hard on me.... Sometimes those in authority never realize how their might mentally destroys to those who are under them 😢😢
"The crown must win. Must ALWAYS win..." -Queen Mary of Teck.
I think Elizabeth did realize it. She was always torn on these decisions, and, at the same time, didn't have as much control over these matters as one might think, especially back then. Mind you, Margaret was always free to marry Peter without her sister's permission if she gave up her royal perks. At the end of the day, she decided she'd rather keep the perks.
@@hutch1197It’s not as simple as that. As soon as she might have done that, her ties to the family would have been completely cut off. She would have become a social pariah, a traitor and probably forced to go into exile like her uncle David. The press would have destroyed her. She would have been an exile who betrayed queen and country for the sake of lust etc. Basically, she would have been dead to the family. No love on earth, however great, could have passed that test.
@@bogdancristea9270 Not disagreeing with you on that. But to be fair, she knew from the beginning that her relationship with Peter would never culminate in marriage. He was married with kids when they began their relationship, and she was well aware of the royal rules. She was betting on her sister bending the rules for her. And I do think Elizabeth wanted to help her, but society, the church and parliament were all too stringent at that time. What puzzles me was how she was then allowed to marry Tony, whose baggage was 10x more scandalous.
Sorry, I don't agree. Margaret could easily have married whenever she wanted ... if she gave up her place in line to the throne. But, despite Elizabeth's growing family, she would not do that. Stupid, on her part. By then, she was well out of the realm of ever possibly becoming sovereign.
I was waiting for this clip to be available again.
Keep going with the crown videos. Love this show.
She panicked badly..
And seriously, you'd think this protocol was god-given and not man-made, able to be changed by Man. The Sovereign at the very least...
That’s because it was always a competition with her. She never wanted to do anything that would benefit others if it meant putting herself second
@@inmyelementblue7186Lilibet was tremendously selfish
She had every right to panic given what she experienced with Townsend. And the change of protocol was EXACTLY what Lord Altringham was talking about.
@@lordalessan By all means, I wasn't criticizing her for panicking. That "protocol", on the other hand....
To be fair, she hadn't been The Sovereign long at this point, and almost everyone still treated her like she knew less than them... The Queen took a long time to grow into the role, and I am sure being a woman leader in the 1950s in her 20s didn't help...
That's a ridiculous protocol.... poor Margaret
I don't understand why that would be a rule, because the Queen's pregnancies weren't even formally announced. It was just like "She won't undertake further public engagements for a couple months" and then "Yay! A baby!"
Ridiculous how?
@@LaKellita1 Because what was gained from following it?
@@1violalass tradition? Class? Dignity? There was absolutely nothing to be gained by allowing it
The gain would have been allowing Margaret to live her life. I fail to see what dignity would have been denied anyone if both things had been announced close to each other. Are those families to announce a pregnancy and a separate marriage within months of each other undignified?
Silly little traditions can just as easily be ignored as created in the first place.
Exactly..
Like Charles couldn't marry a divorcee, Camilla cannot be Queen, Camilla will be a Duchess, and then it was all thrown out the window.
“Tradition” is peer pressure from dead people
It is funny how she would not budge for her sister, but she made many “accommodations” and bending of rules of protocol for her children.
She could have done the same for her sister.
This was after all her three eldest children got divorced, including Prince Andrew, Queen Elizabeth's favorite child. The Princess Royal although respectful to the Queen, I believe she was determined to remarry again despite her former husband being alive. I think because Queen Elizabeth was a young queen and people like Winston, Tommy Lascelles and the Queen Mother were pushing her to retain the status quo. It was the reason why Margaret couldn't marry Peter Townsend.
Different times, different takes..
I personally think she learned from her mistakes with Margret and that’s why her children got a better shake.
@@reginadoggett9921 i wonder how margareth would have reacted to harry and meghan, she would have probably been equally happy that harry was allowed it, like breaking the cycle whilst equal times losing her mind completely
@@gPrussia11 true and also as another comment said different times, sadly margareth was also under the curse of the times, by the time of elizabeth's kids and most especially harry, times changed massively, and doing those things would no longer have the chances to cause the biggest scandal of all and end up like the king who abdicated, all rather very complex and complicated
Why can’t any more announcements be made until a monarch’s child is born?
It will take away the attention away from the child.
@@KA-jo8vn how petty and clout chasing.😂
They can. It’s bollocks. And now, a divorced person can be king.
This was and is such a messed up family
I think any family would be messed up if they had to live under protocols like this. The show itself points out how this can tear family relations apart.
Is there really a protocol issue regarding this? Seems quite contrived.
congratulations, by the way. 😅😅😅
After watching so much of the crown! I realized how terribly selfish the queen was. Especially when it came to Margret! She allow Charles to remarry after both he and Camilla were divorced but pulled out nonsense rules when Margret wanted to marry Peter! Crazy
But you can announce two things at the same time. Queen Elizabeth believes that her pregnancies are more important than her sister's marriage. I'm not surprised she leaves angry.!!
A monarch’s pregnancy is a far bigger announcement than a soon to be irrelevant royal’s wedding announcement
@@fahimfaisalmahir567 and then we (they) wonder why that family is a complete chaos of a dysfunctional mess
After I saw this episode for the first time it really occurred to me that Elizabeth wanted to deny Margaret to marry Tony, but couldn’t. Tony was better approved than Peter was so Elizabeth had no grounds to deny. If Elizabeth had it HER way Margaret would have NEVER gotten married to ANYONE
Wait, Margaret wanted the center of attention (announcement) so much so that she ignores the fact the queen was expecting a child? She was so unhappy...
She muttered a very unheartfelt " congratulations by the way". I'm sure she truly felt she was being given the runaround by Elizabeth, and after the situation with Peter, wanted to marry before "The Firm" changed their minds.
Could you lick the boot any harder? It’s the Queen’s third child. It’s bollocks.
I don't think it was about wanting to be the centre of attention, it was about wanting to be allowed to marry. Hardly unreasonable.
My favorite scene:
"Congratulations, by the way."
"Thank you?" 😂🤣😮😉
"You never did anything for Peter" I felt that in my soul I really did. I mean her Queen Elizabeth ruined Margaret's life I think. She was in love with Peter and she ruined that, and now she found someone else and she can't announce that she is engaged? How ridiculous.
rubbish rubbish rubbish
I doubt Margret and Peter's marriage would have been successfully. It would have ended up the same way her marriage with Tony did.
@@nomahope3182 why do you say that???
@@user-sv7fd6es6s Peter groomed Margaret. He was an older married men who allowed a teenager to fall in love with him.
In real life, this is why Elizabeth gave Harry and Megan the freedom to leave. She knows how the system was mentally debilitating for Margaret as the second born.
Sort of like Prince Harry. I wish people would cut him some slack. The poor boy walked behind his mother's casket while the entire city of London was weeping as they passed by. Horrible for a child.
@@janmariebrunette-hunyady1386 That trauma doesn't excuse the past 4 years of his vile and malicious behavior towards his family. For years Harry was cut some "slack". It turned him into an entitled spoiled narcissistic man child.
@@notbill08 Your bigotry and hatred towards Harry is sad and pathetic. Harry had to defend Meghan against the hateful things said about her. I totally support Harry and Meghan and their life in America.
@@JimMac23 Bigotry? Do you even know the definition of the word? Hatred? That's a strong accusation. I don't hate Harry or Meghan. I despise their behavior.
@@JimMac23 Lol..No one is as bigot and hateful as Harry and his Z grade cable actress wife..
You know, of course, this is fictionalized, yet still at times during the show it amazed me how delusional and plain mean the Queen was to the rest of ghe family in following the protocol to the point. So what if this announcement was to be made ahead of her child being born. How, how could this have affected the monarchy or how people viewed them? Also they could have announced it and later said the Queen was pregnant as if they just found out. I mean, here it just shows that in terms of what the queen wanted she got, everyone else had to swallow up their feelings and adhere to ridiculous outdated rules no one cared for excpet a bew privileged men.
No. This did happen. The conversations may be fiction but the facts and events are NOT.
If I were Margaret, I would've just stayed with Peter, living together and having children without getting married, just to spite the naysayers. Me thinks at the first sign of a baby bump Elizabeth and the government would've all but shoved Margaret and Peter down the aisle with Margaret's privileges still intact. 😂😂
She didn’t want to lose her privileges though.
Hogwash. Margaret was a royal princess brought up with full knowledge of protocols. She was an unfailing support to her sister till her last breath. This show creates drama where there is none.
These events absolutely happened. As Margaret wrote about in her letters. As Anne Glenconner wrote in her memoir.
The "you can't have 2 things happening at the same time" Royal Family protocol continues to this day. Whenever RF members have concurrent events, the British tabloids breathlessly report that someone's being "overshadowed," that it's a "slap in the face," etc. Especially now concerning Harry and Meghan, who apparently are just supposed to crawl under a rock and die lest they take one scintilla of attention away from the "working" Royals. I put "working" in quotes because you're lucky if you see them at more than 2 events per week. Nice "work" if you can get it!
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Funny how Elizabeth decided to make changes galore for her own children. All the way to letting Chucky get his divorced mistress as a bride and the throne.
hilarious
Yep. The hypocrisy is breathtaking