How to be more relatable? Jose is back and tells Chris how.
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- Are you being true to yourself? What can you do to be more relatable and connect with others? Guess who is back? None other than Jose Caballer.
He's back...
Let us know what you think. Yin and yang. Flow vs Do. Heart and head.
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1:45 Find your natural patterns by being in touch with the little you
6:27 Q: What is the core of who you are?
7:59 Are your personal brand attributes in alignment with you actually are?
8:52 We sometimes put up a wall because we don't want to let people know who we are inside
11:40 By climbing tethered and gradually with calculated risks, if you happen to fall you do not fall far
13:00 The design industry has a problem with ego
14:21 A large part of being relatable is sharing your struggles without polish
17:28 The more experienced a client is, the more they can see through facades
19:10 Allowing relationships to be deep requires vulnerability
22:54 The ability to connect and flow with people is a skill
26:07 By keeping your guard up, you disallow great people from entering your life
28:04 Go beyond collaboration into co-creation
31:09 In collaboration, the goal supersedes everything. In Co-creation, everyone puts a piece of themselves into the collective.
33:30 Q: Why is authenticity important to design?
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When can we see the episode where Jose designs that sandwich?
I'll ask.
I stumbled on this channel 2-3 months ago and I can genuinely say the kind of content you guys put out has been immensely impactful for me. In terms of understanding the fundamentals of merging business and design, and well as personal development, I very much agree that while the ideas that emerge from the relationship between Chris and Jose appear to be conflicting, they find a way to use their different perspectives to arrive at a positive conclusion that benefits the educational narrative of the video.
I just turned 20 and I'm starting to officially present myself professionally as a freelancer to the public, and you guys really are making a difference in giving people the power to unlock their potential. Thank you for being so open and transparent with your audience.
Roy thanks for sharing Roy.
Roy Amen bro
Roy yes I can.
***** there's nothing wrong with being creative :3
I play these videos in the background while I do my daily activities. Man, it's wonderful to hear your voice again, Jose. #WOOWOO
Brian McFarland lol
This is the first video where I saw Jose so calm or trying to appear not bored by Chris’s long sentences and so deeply expressing and in himself. And Chris always asking questions from comments whenever he digs deep in feelings, making a hole in Chris’s protective wall, not wanting to be vulnerable. aha? Beautiful!
Here is a thing, Chris is not losing his soul while working, when you are awake you do every bit, part of your life
with awareness and completely surrendered in it, you put the whole of yourself. And here is what he is doing, learning, taking all in, transforming it and sharing it out to us. And people who resonate on this journey stumble over here. The fruition of all the meditation, the spirituality you are learning comes into play only when we practice it, else its all just gathering of wisdom and what are we supposed to do with it, just another form, yeah?
“Let’s be who we are, we don’t need to go all same” true. We only need to become true of ourselves. Acceptance is the key :) and we all need to evolve not change. Like we are evolving with every content posted on this channel. :) :)
Disregarding your personalities, I come back to this channel because it has a very strong vibe of relatability and vulnerability with the topics discussed in how real they are to the design community. Loved the discussion guys.
KirkyDaTurkey thank you.
The content you two have brought to TH-cam has been so valuable to me. Each of you have your own style and personality, and I appreciate the way you challenge one another and your audience to examine yourself.
Jonathan Bates thanks Jonathan.
I honestly love Chris but this is the best Chris do video I have seen so far. What I feel and what I have experienced with myself as well, is that it's the fears that control us. We are afraid all the time, some of failure, some fear being left alone or laughed at. What we fail to realise is that it's okay.
I love these kinds of conversations and I think there is a lot to be learned from the perspectives of Chris and Jose. I really appreciate the time you guys take to provide us with content. I have learned so much, I have only been found this channel a few weeks ago and it has already become a big part of my day. Thank you guys! I can't say it enough, thank you!
HI Tim. Thanks for making us a part of your day.
Thank you Chris for the honest questions that well articulated my thoughts, and for Jose for truthfully communicating your inner universe with the world, which I also found extremely relatable as well. It means so much to see The Futur putting content on such a humane level.
Lydia Ho glad you liked it.
I love both Chris and Jose...! I was brought into the field by Jose though..his energy, his humor, and the way he approaches creativity. I go back to before the Skool on TH-cam and I continue to support the growth. I loved it when Chris came on because he resonates with my Capricorn upbringing (My Father) I need both energies and I think Jose knew what he was doing when he brought Chris in. It was what was needed. I think the Skool is stronger now. You may not relate with Chris but Chris, is a part of the formula. We need both or I need both men and the insights and experiences they provide to help me be better. Relatablility...? It's important but not everything. If you listen, really listen to these two men, they are very transparent which is hard to do. If it were easy we would all be doing what these men are doing. We are all growing and sharing lets just be thankful that we have this platform to learn from.
Stephen Lee really appreciate you sharing Stephen.
I discovered this channel a month ago and I'm trying to watch all the vids. You guys are giving away an amazing amount of valuable info. Thanks very much.
What drew me the most was the two opposite personalities and the different insight you both give on the same subjects. The video I watched previous to this one had a lot of negative comments directed at Jose and I actually became angry. So many people were totally unappreciative of Jose's intuitive, seat of the pants style, and saw no value in him at all. I'm glad I watched this one next.
I think many people don't realize there are analytical and intuitive personalities, and we need both. If someone doesn't relate to one of you I'm not sure why they feel compelled to say extremely rude things on TH-cam.
Glad you're back, Jose. Heed no haters and do your thing...
Clark Giesbrecht appreciate you Clark. The world would be better if more people were like you.
I think its about vulnerability. What Chris said about having only a select group of people in his inner circle is understandable.
Though that's where boundaries should be set instead of walls. boundaries can be crossed while walls are often avoided.
Vulnerability is about feeling the fear of people's worst and selfish selves and being willing to share anyway.
Boundaries aren't known unless they are crossed, and you have to let people know that if they respect you, and your relationship they wont cross them because you matter.
You will find more often than not that people not only respect the boundaries, but respect and love you more for setting them. By laying down boundaries instead of putting up walls, you will be more open to new things, and people won't try to come at you like you're fort knox.
It's difficult because this is business and Blinds brand is attached to the show, which is why Chris can't let loose more, but there are moments, when Jose and Chris used to be on film and when chris interviews were he would forget that he was being recorded and act as though they were just hanging out.
In those small moments, i even forget that i'm watching a video. My point is that you both have unique aspects of handling things, and just like in yin and yang the circles show that there is a mixture of both for each side (light in darkness and darkness in the light).
It's just as equally gratifying to see the analytical, serious, and business sides of jose, as it is to see chris when he is somewhat playful, and having a good time.
The difference between the "stickiness" as it were is the attachment: meaning that when i see Jose years later after the old videos, i can see the years of change that have happened and appreciate and imagine what it took for him to arrive here, but with Chris though i know that you've done a heck of a lot of self work and being willing and open to suggestions behind the scenes etc, that veneer that you present on film has remained the same throughout the years even though you've personally (out)grown.
Have you ever followed a youtube channel vlogger and you feel like you know the person? Its because through each video that you watched, you got little insights into their personality and things that you didn't know about them that helped you build rapport. If everytime you watched someone they were playing back the same tape, there would be nothing new to learn, the show would then be able playing that persona/projection onto others. (the straight man and the wise guy comedy trope)
In the 48 Laws of power there's a law #46 that says "never appear too perfect'
"Appearing better than others is always dangerous, but most dangerous
of all is to appear to have no faults or weaknesses. Envy creates silent
enemies. It is smart to occasionally display defects, and admit to
harmless vices, in order to deflect envy and appear more human and
approachable. Only gods and the dead can seem perfect with impunity."
Sharing weaknesses and down moments are really for me to empathize with what you felt during that time, and shapes how i see you from then on.
So by not letting people inside even just a little bit, the person who is willing to bear it all (jose) will be well beloved and missed when he is absent. I'm also an INTJ, but ive been to those dark places jose talks about, and came out a different person.
The point is: It's okay to have a private life, be metered with what you share, but do share some. Maybe having more than one person with you on videos could help balance out the dynamics and give you the space to play Chris do instead of having your Owner/Producer/xyz hats on.
However, If we are talking about something like this (nitpicking) it must mean that you guys are doing an amazing job, because people usually do that when there is nothing else to criticize.
I have deep respect for you both and hope to see more vids soon :)
very thoughtful feedback. i appreciate you taking the time to share. i am not the most relatable person. i know this. i'm okay with this. part of my power comes from knowing and accepting who i am. it's not that i don't have vulnerabilities. i do. many in fact. but like the good Capricorn that I am, I'm a "constant improver". I strive for continued self improvement. This backed by clarity & focus, work ethic, courage to overcome my fears, makes me seem like the Terminator. I'm on a perpetual cycle of self improvement, building knowledge, gaining experience.
You may not have noticed, but the change is very evident. Watch the first 3 episodes we ever recorded. Look how tense I was on camera. Notice how, over time, I receded from the background. I started to introduce shows. It wasn't until the Identity Design episode that I actually wrote content for the show (which I think was almost 6 months in).
Jose and I carefully played "roles" on camera. He was the carefree, free-spirited spiritual warrior who was sometimes spiritual, would ramble on but be lovable. He played the role of the artist hippie. On the other hand, I played the logical, driven, buttoned up design/business monk. I was very binary. But keep in mind these were "characters" that we chose to play.
After a while, I got tired and I'm sure Jose did as well of playing these roles because they were just facets of our true selves. My students, staff and family know the true me. People who attend my lectures will often say, "You are funnier and warmer in person". This screen, after all is a 2 dimensional representation of who I am.
It's a good quote.
"Appearing better than others is always dangerous, but most dangerous
of all is to appear to have no faults or weaknesses. Envy creates silent
enemies. It is smart to occasionally display defects, and admit to
harmless vices, in order to deflect envy and appear more human and
approachable. Only gods and the dead can seem perfect with impunity."
Welcome back Jose, I missed you. The different personalities and viewpoints is what makes the Futr good. I'm learning from both of you and always look forward to your new episodes.
Hi Debbie. Good to see you on here.
I appreciate this openness and honesty and showing vulnerability. 🙏
Chris, you are not robotic, do not let anyone talk you into this, what you are is straight forward, logic, openminded as few and demanding. Best wishes Gaudenz
Thank you. I didn't think so either, but everyone is allowed to have their opinion.
@@thefutur that is the only way.
Fun Fact: The word "Core" originally comes from the Latin/Greek word Cor/Cordis, which means"Heart"
thanks Mr. Fun Fact. :)
Reminds me of a Brene Brown talk :)
I love that, thank you.
I'm obsessed with @chrisdo 's emotional glow up!! The way that he talks about himself in this video vs current videos is night and day.
Mr. Caballer really looks like he came back from the future and has all the knowledge and peace, almost looks like a granddad in a good way.
The abstract can become surrealism. Outside looking inward, inward looking outward. Great to see Jose back on The Process! The inner child and conditioning we experience can be hard to navigate through. The inner child always asks "why". My nephew is in that stage and it can truly reawaken a lost mindset. Keep the knowledge coming.
Zach Wood hi Zach.
The best episode yet, hope to see more episodes like this coming out soon. They are not only incredibly helpful to designers but much needed for anyone and everyone living in this crazy century. Thank you both of you
Filip Sipos you're welcome.
Awkward at times, but in a fascinatingly open and honest way that made us appreciate you both even more.
just at times? curious which parts jumped out to you?
Mainly when Jose was going quite spiritual. Then it panned to Chris looking a little baffled/awkward/distant.
This was so good Chris & Jose. Really nice to see what Jose has been up to and to see him on the channel again. I'm definitely more like you Chris, but I can definitely see the appeal of taking parts, lessons, and thinking different from Jose's point of view. Hope to see more of you back on the channel Jose! This was so good in-fact that I was talking to a good buddy the other day when we started talking about personal growth and reliability with a struggle he has been having at work and in life. Rather than try and explain what I learned to him, I sat him down and we watched this together. Can't get enough of this channel. Keep up the awesome work!
Alex Bass thanks Alex. We are the new water cooler conversation starter for creatives.
Ok waaaay not annoying, muuuuch awesome. chapeau Jose and Chris, very touching video.
The connection between design and philosophy. What wonderful results came out of your beautiful friendship. Thank you
Not finished watching but I had to pause at the bit @17:29 where Jose talks about showing up projecting the person you think you're supposed to be for someone, vs yourself and how people will pick up on your discomfort. It's fascinating because it's something I have certainly seen happening in networking or interviews, if you present yourself as your are comfortable people always walk away feeling they connected with you better. On the other hand there's this whole school of thought about "fake it to you make it" which I think can also be valuable to some people who need move forward or who suffer from self doubt.. I think the takeaway is how important it is to foster that confidence in being yourself and whatever skills your always working on so you can recognize what you have to offer, until you don't feel you have to project, pretend or otherwise "fake it".
You both spoke to some of my own struggles. I am 20+ years ahead of you in my work life and I find myself contemplating what my future life might mean with less or even no work. Even typing those words shakes me to the core. Jose, you speak so much truth about meditation and the interior experience. I am clearing hours in my "productive" work week for reading and meditation. Perhaps in time, I will see that as productive, right now, it feels like an indulgence that I am not sure I deserve. When I work, I know that I am helping people, that is where I have found meaning in my life. I also know that I have neglected other facets of experience. Many thanks to both of you for sharing so honestly.
Professor, I think you have to be okay with wherever you are in life. Focus on the positive aspects cause the other stuff gets in your way. I don't measure myself to anyone else's metric for where I should be except for my own.
Hey Chris don't change man you're helping a lot of people out there including me I'm in graphic design school now at Full Sail and the stuff that you've been talking about for business as well as graphic design at help me get a head start in school and in life you're a blessing to me God bless you
Special video. I think what Jose may not realize yet (or when this video was filmed) is that while there's only one path towards enlightenment, it takes an infinite amount of forms (as far as human perception is concerned) so Chris actually IS walking a very spiritual path and honestly appears a bit more in his personal power than Jose, in my opinion. It's clear Chris is someone who's very conscious of his image and reputation, but that's because he has great respect for his gifts and what he was put here to do. In order to do it efficiently, he needs to take control of the things that his gifts afford him control over. Control isn't inherently bad or good in and of itself. Nothing is, except imbalance in the context of whats needed for a given effect/outcome. If his sense of control prevented him from being receptive to new information, and therefore stunted his personal and professional growth, that would mean he had an imbalanced amount of control and would need to assess what the right level would be moving forward -- not just give up control all-together!
Jose appears to be on a journey of self-love and acceptance. I think he was conditioned to see power as bad or wrong (subconsciously) and so he perceives Chris standing in his power as partly an ego thing and has difficulty standing fully in his own power. Something at some point in his childhood made him believe it was wrong to think of himself as special or great, and worthy of love & abundance. Practicing authenticity is one of the most empowering ways to free ourselves from that prison and of feelings of shame and guilt; I identify with him here.
It's also possible that everything I wrote is just me projecting myself onto these guys!! LMAO. In any case, this was another top notch video. Thank you!
i think you see more than most.
Joseeee. We missed you man! Happy to see/hear you again. By the way this video is so spiritualy pumped up it's over 9000 :D
You guys are awesome!
Man, I wish I could just give both of these guys a hug and say thank you.
Pascal Bakari you just did.
You guys are the best of pairs! the way your share your personal development and growth is astounding. We love the relationship and you both are the real MVPs. Loved the discussion.
I find being relatable closely tied to how open you are about intimate experiences and feelings. It's not about sharing sex stories, but rather about sharing deep, personal things that others can identify with or at least identify with the struggle.
Offtopic: You guys are new personal heroes of mine. Giving away this knowledge is what we need to make education/growth more widespread. Love you and your team for it.
thanks ricardo. i also feel being relatable is about being genuinely interested in the other person.
I consider that to be part of what is needed for a great conversation, but does it offer anything for the other person to relate to?
you'd be surprised. To be interesting, you must be interested in other people. i can relate by listening, empathizing, and then sharing my own experiences, when appropriate. i do so in story form vs. prescriptive, you must do this.
conversely, if you share your experiences without context for the other person, they'll be sitting there, scratching their head. like, why are you telling me this? how does this relate to me.
tony robbins talks about this in "building rapport". we like people who are like us, or people who we'd like to be more like.
Can you make a video on the steps you would take if you want to be a graphic designer without going to school for it?
ok. good topic.
Thanks Chris and Jose for the very honest episode. I have some work to do to find the 'little me', and learn how to be confident in sharing my thoughts and ideas. Thanks for the encouragement.
Stephanie King I think I'm still looking for mine. No pressure.
The target audience for Chris solo shows is different then the Chris/Jose duo. To be honest - quality wise, Chris Do nails it every time. The dynamics of the Chris/Jose duo however make the experience playful - which I'm sure many people love, TH-cam IS classified as entertainment.
I think you guys represent an amazing ying/yang relationship with a lot of complimenting qualities.
Very succinct breakdown. Thanks Nathan.
Welcome back Jose. Everything about you in this video shows change and transformation. Sometimes we need to take time out to soul search, heal or just do some personal development.
This episode is no doubt deep in subject matter, but as always it is speaking around a relatable and important issue. Not only for me in my current circumstances, but I can only guess at everyone else by the previous comments.
The synergy between Chris and Jose has always been one of a kind in my opinion. It was one of the initial things that kept bringing me back for episodes of The Skool / The Futur. I relate and gain value from Chris and Jose in different ways.
In a world full of salesmen and disingenuousness, you guys continue to shine a light of authenticity and generosity within the industry. Once again, great work guys.
Thanks Sean. Good to see you commenting here.
I think the comment at the end was key: you need both. That's why I love the duo. It works both sides of my brain.
I totally understand. I'm trying to find the balance between what works for the audience and what I personally want to do and enjoy doing.
There's a fine line between getting fulfillment from making others happy and being a pushover/people pleaser.
I would say that as long as you're not sacrificing your own happiness for someone else and having the assertiveness to speak up when you're being wronged is essential.
Nick Bultman but notice how many creative types have a hard time saying no and constructing boundaries.
Oh i know, are there any studies on this? Or are these qualities even measurable? Because you had a video describing how creative types may be inherently more codependent with others, and it really made sense to me.
i don't have any data. it's all anecdotal.
What's interesting is that a lot of Jose talks about early on falls under social identity. I think the argument can be made that you can have a different identity and value sets in different environments, but they are merely aspects of a greater whole. I think the reason why it is so hard for people to know themselves is that people find it difficult to reconcile all these differing identities without seeing conflict. There is can be this inherent belief you can't be multiple different things and you have to almost live and die by the labels you or others give to you.
I agree with what some of Jose is saying, but wholly it's subjective. To Chris's defense, with the Example of the hugging: for him to conclude that Chris has a limited intimate experience or that his ability to choose how intimate he wants to be with others as a lack of that thing that he's choosing to share(intimacy) is almost the definition of subjectivity. Why is it that he's lacking in something that others give more or less of? The whole point of freedom is that we can choose whatever we want our lives to be. Chris, I don't think You lack anything, I just think you, unlike most people, have known AND know faster what you want in life than other people, without the need of trial and error. I share this trait as well. I don't need to experience everything to know if I like it or not. I just know I do. I love Porsche's and I have yet to buy one (yet) and I think for someone to look at me and say, well you don't know what car you really like because you haven't driven every car, or the other cars yet, is truly subjective and limiting not just on the other person but on the observers perspective and and responsibility to communicate, and this, actually results in being more un-relatable, because we're not taking the person's word/testimony/story for who they are in that moment. If you change your mind 100 times in 50 years, it's not that the first 10 years is a lie in comparison to the end of the journey, it's that the end of the journey needs those first tens years and is a culmination of those experiencing. Not a constant process of validating/invalidating. - To conclude Chris, I honestly think you're just as connected to yourself as Jose. I don't find error or lack(lack is VERY subjective). I don't know you both, but I think Jose might have been a little to existential in this moment. - Would love to come on the show and chat about this!
thanks Jonathan. I was just humoring Jose. i gave space to say whatever he felt he needed to get off his chest.
I relate to Chris a lot. I think he's more strategic than I am but I can relate to that. I'm the kind of person who takes in information and once I understand it I act on it. No bs no excuses I just put things in place and do. I've honestly never related to Jose. I like him but he's way more into spiritual beliefs than myself. That's good for him but I can't do that it makes me feel like struggles make me a victim. I don't think any excuses should be allowed in life.
thanks
I so enjoy listening to you two, learning it all in a non-linear way. This is one interview I find I need to see many times, to pick up a new gem with each viewing.
glad you liked it. Technically, it's not an interview. It's a conversation.
I seriously love you guys and this channel. More Jose!
Eli S thanks. More jose? Follow him on FB.
Youre the best one-two punch ever! Youre both awesome in your own way.
Mark Aldrich Dela Santa thanks.
Chris! This episode surprised me totally. In my professional life I have never met anyone that I could relate to more than to you. I find my-very-own-self in the way you think act (knowledge stampede and burning head) or express thoughts - even the way you've provided feedback for a designer. Obviously you have incredibly wider business knowledge which I'm stealing from you right now (expect #10% soon) but you are totally relatable! Mentor-soulmate kind of situation. From the bottom of my heart thank you for your stylish generosity.
thanks. i appreciate your vote of confidence.
i need a jose in my life. and a genuine one.
and i haven't found one yet. i thought i had, but turns out it's not what i think it is.
so i removed this person out of my circle, and not looking back at it again.
like chris, i'm an intj.
and this is spot on, i've always had problems with maintaining long term bonds or personal connections. i tend to be very selective with people as well and easily detach from them and move on by myself. everything to me feels like a chessboard where i should act cautiously and plan my moves two steps ahead.
and people get intimidated by my remarks sometimes because tho i speak truth/reason to them, it would come off as too abrasive for their taste.
anyway, i look forward to more vids with chris & jose in it!
great content, as always.
Maybe Jose can be your Jose.
sure, i'd love to! but nah...
too unrealistic, proximity wise. lol
gc68 break down that wall.
I believe Chris and Jose are very relatable in different ways. Jose because of his abstract/deep thinking and spirituality. Chris because he is an INTJ, very logical, direct and selective.
Matthew Benkert we have our own strengths and weaknesses. I think that's cool. I'm happy to be me.
The Futur I know your probably gonna feel a little naked when you finish reading this. But I saw a whole lot of little Chris in the discussion and it made me smile. You were super cute,lol, and very childlike with your expressions.
The funny thing is, I'm an abstract thinker and hippie like Josè but also possess the no nonsense straightforward business side like you, Chris. I'm also very open like Josè with my heart on my sleeve and analyse people as I get to know them and if they overstep their mark without warning I set the walls up like Chris. One because I know they're operating from a place of adapted adolescence so I have compassion for their humanity. Two, because I must protect my own energy as a person like Chris who is called to serve and take care of people around them.
The heart and mind exist for a reason and as long as one is balanced between the two by acknowledging the core aka child and the adapted survival techniques that serve the child for highest good. One needn't go without the other.
SeeLola Run beautifully said. My wall can't be that high. I worked with jose for over 2 years right?
José!! i don't need to finish the video i liked it already! I really like your spirit José!
Had you at "hello, Jose is back"?
Exciting to see Jose back, and with such an interesting and insightful discussion. Seems like not only we gained from it, but the two of you as well. Looking forward to more!
just curious, what would you guess that we learned from the conversation?
This is awesome. The psychology between self-awareness, creativity, and human interaction can be a rabbit hole but Chris and José are good yin and yang elements to provide another piece of the puzzle.
I've watched this video from the first second to the last at least five times now and in short, I find it... Illuminating.
As of now, I've watched almost all your videos at least once and listened to all your podcast episodes. I find both Chris and Jose extremely relatable. I think that's what grabbed me from the get-go about this channel...is that there is no pretention of knowing much more than others, though you have every reason to be, given your accomplishments. It's surprisingly common to find people talking "at" you (the audience, us) rather than to you about how to go about doing something, and here, on this channel, I come to find inspiration and a "path to my center", so to speak.
Until this video, I honestly didn't see Chris as a hard taskmaster, and I still don't believe that. In my opinion, he's often interpreting a situation from so many different angles (thankfully, out loud for us to learn from it too) that he can sound "clinical" but isn't that just the method to his chaos aka creativity? Sometimes when I'm listening to Chris on the podcast, I start wondering how he's able to show his vulnerable side so freely,... it's inspirational and very likable. And so, I'm not sure I follow how he can appear to his audience as being distant.
Complementing and supplementing that is Jose's dynamic energy that seems to have a clarity and an assertive opinion which makes one feel confident that if there was a direction to take, it would be Jose's. It's beautiful really. They both have different styles of *dancing*. :)
It's always fun to imagine our personalities are not our own manifestation but a product of something controlled by forces unseen. So I'm not one for picking personality types or zodiac signs. But, I loved watching Jose and Chris just chat with each other as close friends and business partners...Something I'm sure we would like to see more.
As always, thank you for being you. Hearts!
That's a beautiful summary. Thank you so much!!
Welcome back, Jose! This was an awesome show. You guys are raising the level every time. Respect 👏
appreciate it.
you are each different powerful people on different paths, you should just respect that. Jose and Chris compliment each other.
Wow what a inspirational talk that set me on thinking about who I am!
Unreal Tailcup that is cool.
I really enjoyed this video. Thanks for putting yourselves out there.
Thank you guys so much for your amazing videos and topics! Thank you for being my meditation since I discovered you! You both are great!
thank you for tuning in and commenting.
Hi Chris, I just wanna say I admire you for being so honest in this video man. You talk about alot of personal/real stuff in front of so many people. I think its really impressive and it alows me to lean from you because I often show the same behaviour that you are describing 22.07
I wanna add that i think for some people its hard to connect to there inner child because they have been bullied when they where a child. In my case thats the truth. So when i think about when i was a child i feel alot of fear and confusion. Those are not really feelings you wanna connect to. So its importent to connect to the positive ones but thats really hard. I also wanna point out I don't think childeren are alway's pure and honest. Sometimes they are but childeren are really focused on what other kids got. Like the cool new toy or the awesome dad and then compare it to themselfs. When we grow up we can learn go above those thoughts and not worry if someone els has as a better life then you. You just focuse on your own life.
Jeffrey thanks for sharing. Glad this conversation was helpful.
Beautiful conversation. Thank you for brining your authentic relationship to the light. A great meditation.
I was even amazed how you can be opened for such conversation about relationships with each other. Chris and Jose you are both very great speakers. But Chris more open to big audience and looks more confidence. To me it seems that for Jose is more likely to talk with small audience instead 10 or 15 people. Thank you guys for this staff that you doing
Otto Toto hi Otto. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I can listen, process what is being said without agreeing. I'm happy to give Jose space to speak his mind, share his experiences and even share his opinion. Notice I use the word opinion. In this conversation you'll notice that very little diagnosing is done. It's mostly Jose prescribing his life experiences and projecting them onto me.
He didn't start with, good to see you. I see the channel has grown tremendously. You've done a great job. Where do you want to take the channel? What challenges are you facing? Can I be of assistance?
Now this would open the door for real dialogue vs. prescriptive advice.
The Futur I make more and more notes in my sketchbook using things that you talk about, because the content becomes more qualitative and motivated for my design job. I saw the Futur earlier in TH-cam, but now it's different. Better
Appreciate you sticking around to see the evolution of the channel.
btw, my son's name is Otto. : )
The Futur Otto it is just my favorite name, my real name is Anton Zuienko. dribbble.com/antonzuienko. Regards Anton
I do feel connected to Chris Do and it’s the reason I was drawn to click the Subscribe button. Discussing internal conflict of self taught designers intrigued me because I was and still do go through this. I also connect to Jose because I am extroverted.
You guys are the Yin & YANG of the business of design.
Love your videos and I've learned alot. Starting a new Branding agency you gave me tons of "light bulb" advise. Thanks creatives.
Hadeel sayed ahmad super!
"You jump in all the way. Woocch! with fire!" lol love it.
Premium thought fuel coming out of this channel!
-love the challenging dynamic between you guys.
I love this Jose because he was allowed to finish his thoughts through and redirect himself if he got off topic without being told. I love this Chris because he was able to allow himself to get off of his thought process to self reflect and respond without protecting his characteristics. I feel that I have a piece of both of your characteristics within myself and they are both conflicting ideas of who they want to be. After this video, I was able to feel a sense of wholeness. I want to see more of these constructive and courteous behaviors in more of TheFuture topics. By the way, I think, I may have over talked in an interview that I originally thought went really well. Now, I think should have just shut up and listened! Help!
Vadim Orev being silent is more powerful when you don't really have something important to say.
Great videro. I try be open and vulnerable and it isn't easy. Yes, I sometimes watch the videos again. lol
right. it's okay to let people in.
Isaiah Nwukor made a great job with the Annotations. Well done!
Mircea Ilas glad you noticed.
Wow this conversation was sooo good. So raw and vulnerable.
The Green African glad you enjoyed it.
happy to see the acknowledgment of astrological differences in friends/colleagues/family...
Name an iconic duo.
Chris Do & Jose Caballer.
Batman and Robin.
both of you are Batmans in different universes!
like regular Batman and Injustice Batman?
more like the Arkham Asylum Batman and Injustice Batman hahaha still, both are awesome.
Really loving this episode. I like the level of self awareness that you guys have along with the conversations that you were having. and i totally agree with that guy who commented about being in a conversation with you two and just feel the vibes and in turn give back the same the best way i can.
lol
Guys.. you both are great, pls stop confronting and start flowing together, Jose adds a tremendous value to the show,.. I don't follow you guys because José is funny or Chris super smart, is because we had 2 different usefull points of view on an important subject in ONE single video, that's the real power of your channel... hope you find the balance and thanks a lot for sharing. un abrazo!
David León thanks David.
They are challenging each other respectfully to achieve mutual growth. Real relationships are not all "flow".
That was a very touching conversation. Thanks for sharing! Usually only close friends share those moments with me, not someone in the internet.
I find it really interesting how different the perception of people is. Under the portfolio video are a lot of commts that say things like "the right guy (chris) is so dominant, he is so pushy, I would have liked listened to the other guy (jose) more" - and I could really not understand why they perceive it that way. For me it was the other way round: The portfolio video was the first video I have seen of your channel, and not knowing you both I thought: "Well I love what the focused guy says, why does the other one always have to interupt and get away from the focus??? He should meditate to learn focus" haha...
But after short time, i got to know Jose better and liked you both a lot. Today I miss Jose a bit and also this one-on-one conversations of you both... maybe you can make a Chris and Jose Special one time a month or one time every three months :)
damn Chris i relate to you so much !! but I also relate to jose being a crazy boricua when I am with people that I have known for some time. I think what can help people relate to Chris is just revealing small details about you life or about random thing you think about , it's a way that other people can use to visualize you outside your work space get inside you head. That way they don't only see the chris do the business man, the entrepreneur they get glipse of Chris Do as a person. One example was when you where in the interview with Roberto Blake and you said "nerds unite" or something. That small part made me relate to you more as a fellow nerd.
Limari Torres you want me to reveal more about myself? Done.
Jose is back!!! Woop woop!!
We wanna see Chris dancing. Hazlo bailar!;) Jokes aside, this was the weirdest - in a good way - video of you guys. Absolutely intereresting in many ways. Any relationship - even with oneself - is sort of like a design project - balance is key. You need inner balance to fine tune with the outer balance. As someone said, you two guys are an odd couple, and that is ok. It wouldn't be as funny and useful if you were a copy-paste result of each-other.
Stefano Papaleo it was weird for me too.
*****
Well, if you wanna break YT after Gnam Gnam Style, that is the way to go ;) Along with you designing sandwiches ;) But I am just messing around and I appreciate the TRUE value you guys contribute.
The Futur
I can relate to that, being rational, logical and introvert myself. Not into the helpting/putting others before me though... defintely not ;) But I know people who are like that.
I'm at 15:36, and the word I like to use is "vulnerability", that our ability to share our vulnerability (at different degrees) makes us relatable. I really appreciate the way you both communicated with each other, here. It was even a little uncomfortable for me, a bit, to watch this personal conversation. Wow.
hey, i'm used to this and it was uncomfortable for me. just curious Amanda, what made you feel uncomfortable? can you pinpoint a few things? thanks.
Let me clarify - uncomfortable, because it makes me aware of my own communication methods in my relationships (which made this feel personal to me, not strictly professional.) You two were so open in discussing each others habits... Buisness partnership is still a partnership and requires a openness, constructive criticism, and self-knowledge.
Thanks Amanda. Hopefully we helped a little. you should also check out our podcast on the subject "The Art of Communication."
2019, And never saw this episode. Super.
where you been?
I just started watching your videos and I am a fan! I believe its all about the individual. I myself relate better with Chris. I like to the point succinct information which Chris does exceptionally well. I don't think he has to do anything to be more relatable. Be you and your viewers will be similar, as with the viewer that made the comment, he relates better with Jose, that's great. It's all about that individuals goals. Because I am more of an executive producer for the creative agency I run I am more drawn to the business video's(ie..interviews with other entrepreneurs, motivation, branding etc..) on the Futur. I don't care to much about Typography or How to price design services etc..
My opinion is you have two audiences. New designers interested in starting their own agency and creative entrepreneurs that have some experience that want to connect with content that is entrepreneurial but with a niche focus on creative businesses. I am the latter. Hope this feedback helps and please keep providing content that targets me, because there isn't a channel currently doing what you guys do that I know of.
Thanks!! Jeff
Kick Art.TV hi Jeff. Thanks for the feedback. Very helpful.
Welcome back Jose! I missed you! :)
told you he was going to be on soon.
I love how real all these conversations are. Responding to what Jose asked about what the community would like to see from him on The Futur, I would like to hear his thoughts on putting introspection into practice professionally. I would like to learn more about how personal hangups translate into problematic client interactions, team conflict, crappy design, branding errors etc. And, vice versa, what problematic client interactions, conflict, etc. may say about our personal hangups.
On another note, this show helped me realize I have a habit of making certain people and certain projects "special." I realized that I fetishized you two and people like (not in a creepy way lol), in the sense that I find myself putting people like you, Tim Ferris, Marie Forleo, Lewis Howes, etc. on a pedestal. Instead of seeing you as people who simply worked hard, were smart and kind to people to get to where you are, I thought there was something "special" about people like you. Thank you for all these videos where you're so open and honest because it helps me see that you're both human and on a journey like the rest of us. And, you don't act like your journeys are better than anyone else's.
I've also fetishized certain projects and dream clients too. Because I have them so hyped up in my head, sometimes it takes a lot to calm my energy down and simply do the work of communicating what I offer and how. If what I mentioned about fetishization makes sense to you, that is a topic I'd like to see discussed; something like where the fetishization comes from, how to recognize when you're hyping something up, why it's unwise and how to resolve it.
that was one of the questions that we got from the Motion Conference in Santa Fe. An audience members asked, "How could we make ourselves more relatable to the audience? In that we were up on a stage and they were sitting there listening to us." The panel had some great responses. Karin Fong said, keep in mind that what you see is just the tip of the iceberg. There are many projects which we don't share with anyone. So don't make the mistake that what you see is everything that we do.
My response, was to Kill your Idols. Not literally of course, but destroy them. If you want to be treated like a fan, act like one. When I meet famous people, people with power, I just tell myself, it's just another person. Doing so, helps to center me and I don't act like some kind of weirdo.
I relate so much with chris.. and i hope i can learn more from both of you
you can. just keep watching.
This was the most powerful and interesting youtube video I've ever watched.
I've followed thefutur & skool for some time now and seen you guys collaborate on videos together. I've also noticed less and less of Jose in the videos, which I miss, because I'm more like Jose but got people like Chris in closer friendships. It’s been highly valuable for me to observe how you guys work together and to understand your very different perspectives. To me Jose is Jose and Chris is Chris, but together you become something more. The exploration of your relationship turns you into even more powerful creators and I think this is the heart & soul of the videos you create. You are recognising that to make something really powerful you need to combine art (Jose) and technology (Chris). You know, the secret sauce is neither of you. But the combination.
You two have always been behind the same side of the table - now you're sitting on opposite ends. I don’t know what happened or if something happened between you guys.
But if something happened, I sincerely hope you guys can work things out because you seem to make a pretty great team (and I want more Chris & Jose videos ;) ).
I really appreciate the level of transparency you guys provided in this video. powerful.
Best regards,
Jon
my sentiments exactly
thanks for the feedback. i will explain more on FB Live on Monday at 6pm PST. Make sure you tune in. I'll be broadcasting for 3 hours. Giving stuff away too.
No argument from me about the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. But as a said in the video, writing and producing content for the channel is a form of self expression for me. It's important for me to have a vehicle in which to have direct dialogue with an audience and TH-cam is my canvas. Jose and I will produce content together when it makes sense, but it stopped being fun for me. You can see that we have very different world views, energy, focus, commitment and (most importantly) vision.
You don't have to choose Coke or Pepsi. You can have both, but not always at the same time. Hope that makes sense.
If am still awake at that time, I will tune in! (Based in London)
I understand and respect that, I've learned that too, how important it is to keep your energy and interest in check when doing creative work/things that you care about.
So a question I'd think to be interesting: How you could flip on these differences and turn them into a topic you both would be excited to explore?
I think what many designers are experiencing is that there's a huge need for understanding how to collaborate effectively & efficiently in interdisciplinary work environments (Research, Business, Tech, Client etc) - My guess here is that your dynamics have resonated with a lot of people because of this.
Best,
Jon
We have divergent thoughts on our dynamic. From people who say they love and miss Jose (which is natural), vs. I can't focus when Jose is on the show. So, there's no way we can make everyone happy. So if it's a coin flip, I'm going to choose my own happiness.
Yes, more of this!
Wow, this is an epic convo. Self awareness is a key designer skill
it's a key life skill. Curious, what was your takeaway from this episode?
main takeaway for me was: be more humble (like you guys of course ;)…be aware of 'egoic' self-programming that could hinder creativity/perception/potential. word.
Real talk: I was afraid to watch this video at first. I’m glad I did. Talk about living up to the title of the series “The Process.” This was some challenging yet awesome talk on this episode.
My personality is in-between you and Jose’s these days. My core is very “squishy”, but life circumstances had me leaning more toward my Virgo Sun/Capricorn Rising pragmatism. Frankly, getting into graphic design has given me a logical framework to re-accessing my “squishy” core and my creativity, which was always there.
For me, who’s still severely “conflict averse,” it’s been a process of learning to accept all of my parts, unconditionally, and to stand in my own integrity. I’m a lot better than I used to be.
tl;dr: personal growth is a “mother,” ain’t it?
I relate much more to Chris as I'm more of the analyzing type.
Jose has so much to offer though. I believe some of the most powerful ideas come from our intuition.
Just a thought - because Chris is able to turn Jose's (or others') abstract concepts into actionable items, he gets most of the credit/success.
You figured out my secret Scott. I just read/watch/listen to other people and into something clear and actionable.
Haha no way, newbies like me need this tho. Hell of a show guys, reading the comments out loud was brutal and entertaining!
I really like this episode, I find myself more like the both of you guys and have this insane battle in my head, wondering who will win. Though I guess for me it is learning the balance that is important. I hope to see you guys working together
Reeally appreciated the episode
Yves Zavel thanks buddy. I guess for you there is no loser.
Great convo between two men...very introspective between business partners...me like.
Hey, Both of u r amazing and helping me specially for more grow! thanks guys
glad to hear.
That was unexpected and pretty cute. I think you both offer much value and I suspect Chris's focus is what makes the Futur function. I keep coming back bc I desire clear and consistent insight from the pros.
Thanks Kelly.
Guys, I really really really love the conversation. I look up to you two and you complement eachother extremely well. I think another take away in all types of relationships is to look out for those people in your life who complement you. A good indicator if they complement you is if they piss you off. :P You find that person, they are your greatest teacher about yourself and also a great business partner. (potentially)
I would really like to see more videos like this with you two talking about the abstract ideas of energy, being one with yourself, one with your community etc. and how you both would apply it realistically to the generation we are in now. I feel like this transition we're going through is more connected through the internet yet making us less connected as human beings which for me leaves me confused on how I can connect and approach agencies or studios for work.
Nik Davis by your analysis I know a lot of people who complement me.; )
haha, just embrace and pivot right?
Great conversation
Thanks !
thank you.
Great content guys, this was really interesting. I usually have a very short attention span but for some reasons it was really easy to watch the whole conversation!
I was just watching the "money" episode with Rocio and Jose. Very nice episode
ah. good precursor to this episode.
Great show as always. I find myself so many similarities of myself in both of you - maybe a little less of Jose - I'm still walking my journey, and it looks like after his pilgrimage to India he's arrived, set up camp and has a pot of tea boiling. :-) I'll definitely be commenting more, as your efforts and honesty are very much appreciated!
Please do. This is Chris, btw, and you may have noticed, I respond to the comments personally.
Amazing
Collaboration vs Co-Creation.....GEMS!!!
Thank you! Don't overthink that.
Damon Bastien I don't. Trust me.
I learn so much from your channel on a personal level outside of business and design, and in that sense this specific video is the best so far.
Jose won me over, on other video I had a hard time relating with Jose but no longer, and seeing Chris is struggling with similar things to me is very... Mm.. Helpful? At least heart warming - you do mention things here and there but now you opened up much more and it was actually helpful, so thank you both very much.
As a request (gotta get selfish here ;)) it would be awesome if you could talk at some point on how did you (Chris) learn to say no, or more to the point where I think the actual problem for me is - how to say no and remain nice and likeable, say no and still keep the other person "happy"...
Thanks for everything.
Adam, it's really hard to say No. I still struggle with this. I'm fighting internally the need to help or appease others with my own priorities and goals. When I recognize this, I slow down and think about why I'm motivated to help or say "yes'. If it's anything other than, it's what I want to do, I kindly decline.
If someone asks for something I'm not comfortable with, I will respond by saying, "I'd like to help you out, but I'm uncomfortable with your request." Then, I tell them why. Sometimes, I will say, "I'm a private person." or "I'd like to get to now you better before committing to something like that." or "I have others to take into consideration and I need to think about the impact that my decision will have on them."
My therapist told me that I'm a "Caretaker", being the middle child and all. The desire to please others used to be more important than getting my own stuff done. Less so these days.
Lastly, You can choose to be: popular, liked, right or you can get the job done. These days, I want to get the job done. Too many people are counting on me (my family, staff and company). That helps when I think about the trust they've placed in me and the responsibility that carries. So I'd rather please the people who are loyal and support me over those that don't necessarily.
The Futur
Thank you, helpful advice, I'm sure by adding the "why" I say no and being honest about it will be a way to make it both easier for me and also easier on the other side to see my point and not resent me.
Middle child as well (high five) and from what I hear and read I'm exactly like you, minus the money and success ;) but with your help this is improving as well :)
Good luck
José dialed down and really focused on the message; which I haven't seen in other videos, great. Around 36:35 correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Chris Do's talking about leaving a legacy behind. That ties into José's statement in regards to work, work, work ... 'gaining the world and losing your soul' (Mk 8:36/Mt 16:26). I don't think it's enough for creatives/designers to simply make ... but to also impart, co-collaborate and ultimately contribute. Good stuff.
Also, as individuals you're both relatable, it all goes back to listening. I think what's crucial and what has attracted me is the topic of discussion and the authenticity both of you bring. Thanks for what you're doing!
Ray E. Datugan hi Ray. Thanks for sharing. I don't think I'm trying to gain the world. If I were I'm on the wrong platform and wasting my time. Who do you think has been behind producing all of these shows?
The Futur ... Let me clarify, I hear both of your POV's. I don't believe that you are focused on gaining the world but that your focus has been on giving back, to share your experiences and what you have learned ... to leave a legacy. Hence the videos which do take tremendous amounts of time and work. It's been mentioned before, that the most valuable commodity we have is our time. That's something we cannot get back at whatever stage of the game. The spiritual side of Josè is simply stating that when we are in the throws of work our relationships can be diminished.
Ray E. Datugan thank you for clarifying. Knowing Jose, there is something much deeper that is unspoken.
Yeah, but from the context of belief it is in regards to relationship. This is required when one knows their Deity...
Jose Caballer you and Chris Do are awesome together, two creatives who strive for excellence, share different viewpoints and are able to communicate both verbally as well as visually. What are the underlying reasons for your absence?
Interesting conversation. Fellow INTJ here!
That intro is always so cool
Thanks. People seem to love it.