Good lord, coming from a console player, im so tired of the "plug and play" argument for consoles, that hasn't been a thing since like the sixth generation at best
Dense ppl, you can build a low gaming pc (Which will run every game on 1080p) with the same price that an serie x and next year you can upgrade and you are on another level.
I went to the source and he said he eventually did build a PC, yet he still stands by what he says in the video. Also he included a 1000W PSU in his build. Jeezus!!!!
I know this video's 3 years old, but here's a comment on the "But I can do this on my laptop" thing. That literally means... you have to buy a 500$ console AND an at minimum 500$ Laptop, or to get a laptop that's actually worth a damned, closer to 800 to 1000$ to do editing and such. That's disregarding the other uses for a graphics card on a PC. I know this is all about "gaming" performance, but some people have other hobbies asides from gaming. I started a new one, 3D animation. And let me tell you, the GPU I chose is a god-send for this type of work load. Made upgrades to my PC specifically to enhance my experiences to 3D animation. So while yes... you can replicate the experiences of PC with a console + a decent laptop... you cannot match the full experience of having a powerful gaming PC. It's like I always say, choice is scary to console fanatics...
Fan fact. When I build my first PC, I dont even know what drivers are. I just instal what ever is insaid those CD. And that works fine many yers with no any updates.
The reason we skipped windows 9 is due to legacy support software using "Win9*" and similar tags to refer to Windows 95/98. Rather than fix a billion lines of code, they just skipped a number
I did get a 3070, but unfortunately I can only get 1080p due to my monitor being so shit. But hey, I got lucky getting one in the first place, and it’s a hell of an upgrade from my 1070. Absolute BUTTER
Try Costco. I got an LG 2k 32" monitor at 165 mhz for $250. Just upgraded from a 1060 6 gb to a used 3080 off Ebay for $600 tax and shipping. Working great since early December.
Just, wow, are fanboys this attached to their plastic boxes because they are trying to rationalize their purchase? Dude, you don't need to do that, you like it more than PC? Go ahead, when it comes to taste and preferences, there is no wrong or right option.
i did the Leo sitting forward in his chair snapping and whistling at the TV meme when the clip from Bill Burr's "no reason to hit a woman" bit popped on screen. +5 points indeed, sir.
I've heard the trade in argument before, but it makes NO fucking sense to me! Maybe I'm dumb, but one person claimed, they got rid of a PS4, games, and a guitar... All to afford an XBOX! That person still had to pay $300 for his Xbox... That's NOT a deal! You're giving away more than you originally had to get enough money to partially buy what you needed to...
Hey Joe can you make a video about Gamers Nexus video about PS5 vs PC?? Because in that video Steve showed that PS5 is actually a mid to high end PC from about 5 years ago and he said PS5 GPU is equivalent to a 1060 6GB and he actually proved it with data. It would be a cool video and you'll get to angry some Playstation fanboys. Love your work by the way.
Yes! The comments section there is completely toxic, in defense of the PS5. It happens whenever a Gamers Nexus Video comes in contact with a "Wider Demographic".
@@jakedeschamps4454 just to let you know. What he said was already been shitted on. Because he ran games that was not pushing the ps5. The ps5 has been tested against newer pcs an it is right there with them. Smh
Maybe if they hadn't spent all that time complaining about PC players they could have learned to properly key out the green in their animations. Also, you gonna love that 2070 dude, enjoy it :)
The equivalent gpu of ps5 is rtx 2070, but that doesn't mean ps5 has rtx 2070 performance. Far from it. If you look at pure fps in games at 1080p medium settings, because that's the settings the ps5 plays most games at then even the gtx 1080ti gets more fps than a ps5 in most games and it's not even close, I mean 1080ti gets way more than 120 fps in most games at 1080p medium.
Me too, though ironically I’m not really playing many demanding games on it. However, Half Life Alyx runs on high settings like butter through a thousand degree knife.
I play on PC and would say the setup for PC is greater than console. The console is more user friendly. Not saying it never has issues. Just that the UI makes it very obvious what the user has to do.
9:50 Can you name literally any physical PC game released in recent years that hasn't locked into steam, origin, etc? There may have been a couple, but as far as I am aware resellable PC games hasn't been a thing for years,
physical games on PC... ehhhhhhh kinda? I mean yeah there are physical releases for PC but they're not nearly as vast as they used to be and compared to the amount of physical releases on consoles, and most PCs don't even have disc drives anymore. I'm not saying you're wrong because, you're not, there are physical releases on PC but I don't think there's nearly as many as console players have. mind you i am both a console and PC gamer
I splurged when I built my pc 4 years ago and got a 1080 and ryzen 1600 and only spent roughly 1100 and it still out paces the consoles. How did he spend 3000 did he put diamonds in the case or something? Edit: does this dude think steam is the only pc store or I'd he just ignoring gog, greenman, humblebundle, etc.. epic just sucks in comparison to all others.
20:33 Yeah fortnite, one of the most competitive games out there, that pros play with m&k at like 390 hz monitors. Yeah console is all you need for that....
I didn't want to build a PC... so instead I bought a laptop that has everything I'd generally want in a computer while also being portable (Which you can still do with desktops btw) The GPD Pocket 3 has served me well and it's weird that this guy is acting like you need to build a gaming PC to be a PC gamer
So this guy wants to tell me that an rtx 3080 that struggles to pull high frame rates with Ray tracing turned on at a higher settings and yet somehow a $500 console can pull it off at 120fps Secondly, you probably could pull off multiple games running in the background so long as you have enough ram Thirdly, i have no idea what his search radius was but a simple budget pc builds will show you an infinite results.. this video reminded me of an old saying that goes like this; He who knows not and knows not that they know not is a fool, shun him
11:36 Instead of spending $500 for a laptop, and spending $500 for a console(and the $120 or whatever for a year subscription to simply unblock your internet for gaming), I could spend $1000 and get a decent gaming laptop, assuming you NEED a laptop for some legitimate purpose, like taking it to uni/work whatever, rather then just having it static on your desk, in which case you're always better off with a full desktop PC, if you buy a laptop because it is trendy, or for the simple "idea" of it behind portable, without any actual need for a portable PC, you're an idiot. The laptop I looked at btw, has a Ryzen 7 CPU, with an RTX 2060, which looking at benchmarks, achieves 62.3 FPS in Cyberpunk 2077 at 1080p medium settings, and that is with DLSS OFF, if you turned DLSS on you could run at higher settings/resolution and maintain 60 FPS. Or you could build a desktop for the same price and easily run loops around the above laptop(and next gen consoles) 14:05 Linus recently did a video, made a $580 build with 4+ year old hardware, had a GTX 1070, and for as close to the same visuals, achieved 4k 60 FPS on the PC, matching the Series X pretty damn closely, yes, the GTX 1070 doesn't have raytracing, but based on the performance of the superior version of AMDs GPU included in both next gen consoles, the RX 6800/RX 6800 XT/RX 6900, don't expect raytracing on the consoles to get anywhere near what PC has in that regard. And again, that was a build meant to match the price of the console, spend a little bit more to get an RTX card(or an AMD RX 6000 series if you don't care about raytracing or DLSS), and you already have a far superior system, so much for your "DOUBLE THE PRICE" BS...unless of course, you try to get a gaming laptop, then, yeah, expect to pay double the price, but if you JUST buy the laptop, instead of buying a laptop and a console, you can actually save money, as I stated above. 15:15 I think one mistake console gamers who get PCs make, is assuming console games are running on max visual settings, and so when they build a PC that "matches the console", they end up disappointed because the Xbox One X can do "4k 60FPS", but when they try, they run the game at max settings in 4k, and then come to the conclusion their PC is weaker because they are not getting 60 FPS. If you match the settings of the console version, you will get very similar performance with equivalent hardware on PC, of course, it will never be 100% equivalent, because consoles are custom built, and they can cut some corners here and there in order to save money, but still provide "decent" gaming performance. Another thing a lot of people misunderstand is the importance of the CPU, I feel a lot of people overspend on this for a gaming PC, CPU is less important for simply playing games, take a look at some CPU gaming benchmarks sometime, you will see the difference between a current gen low end CPU and high end CPU is negligible, yet the price difference is hundreds of dollars. Not only that, higher price isn't always better performance, I was just looking at benchmarks for a very CPU heavy game. Intels CPUS(10000 series) range from $262 (80FPS) to $464 (98FPS), AMD CPUs range from $299 (Ryzen 5 5600X, 154FPS) to $549 (Ryzen 9 5900X, 148FPS). But then if you look at most games, take Red Dead Redemption 2 for example, 1080p Max settings(higher resolution only makes the CPU less important): Lowest FPS is an Intel Core I5-10600K($262) at 90 FPS Highest FPS is an Intel Core i9-10850K($464) at 95.4 FPS Would you really spend $200 more for 5 FPS? Especially when you're already at 90 FPS. Just as a comparison, at 8k minimum settings: Lowest, Intel Core i5-10600K($262): 30.5 FPS Highest, Intel Core i9-10850K($464): 32.8 FPS Now, for GPUs, the GPU used in the CPU benchmarks above, was the RTX 2080 Ti, using the same game, at 4k Ultra: RTX 2080 Ti($999 RRP): 56.8 FPS RTX 3080($699 RRP): 72.2 FPS RTX 3070($499 RRP): 54.3 FPS So now for around $200 more, we go from 54.3 FPS to 72.2 FPS, so if I go with the cheaper CPU option, saving $200, and put that $200 into the GPU instead, I am going to have a MUCH better time with gaming for the same price. Education and research man, do it, and if you are completely clueless, ask someone, we aren't all asses, plenty are willing to help. 15:40 Correct, I have a GTX 1080 Ti, I built my PC in 2018 just a few months before the RTX series was announced, so my GPU is 4 year old hardware, the RTX 3060 Ti and RTX 3070 just....is not worth the upgrade in general performance for me, sure I would get raytracing and DLSS, and that alone is pretty tempting, but the 80% of the time I am not using those features, the performance boost I just don't see as being worth it. I don't just need to justify the price difference between my current card and new card, I have to justify the entire price of the new card, it is much easier justifying paying "$699" for a significant performance boost, over "$499" for a small performance boost, or "$399"(RTX 3060 Ti) for an even smaller performance boost, and there is no way to justify "$1499" for the RTX 3090, at least not for gaming. Edit: Oh I forgot to add what my main point was, I am likely to wait for the RTX 40 series, or AMD equivalent if they catch up on raytracing performance, so I can totally understand not upgrading yet from an RTX 20 series. 19:10 Honestly, while I am sure 120 FPS makes some kind of small difference for consoles, I highly doubt most console gamers would even notice going from 60 -> 120 FPS, because the controllers, believe it or not, are less sensitive to framerate issues, because they are not as precise as a mouse. Even a casual gamer like me, pushed down settings in Overwatch, to go from 4k 80FPS to 4k 120+ FPS, because I could actually feel the difference with mouse aiming, even at a fairly smooth 80 FPS, granted it also depends on the game, but the point is, controllers are less sensitive to input latency. 21:45 I appreciate that consoles, as baseline hardware, will now support raytracing, that means greater adoption of raytracing moving forwards, however, as I covered previously, raytracing is going to be MINIMAL on consoles. 23:47 Exactly. 24:12 Hell no, fuck Epic, but especially fuck Apple, PC gamers overwhelmingly, do not buy Macs, according to the Steam Hardware survey, 3.44% of all steam users are running OSX, with 95.65% of users running Windows. Now, some of that windows percentage is Mac users who Bootcamp into windows for gaming, that is much harder to gage, but I guarantee there is probably more linux gamers then people who do that(0.91% of all Steam users run some form of linux). 25:00 I mean...there is Steams Big Screen mode....which I would argue is far superior...because you can even customize your controller layout within it, while using a controller, per game, among other things. And before someone(if anyone has bothered reading this mammoth comment to this point) mention about other things like Netflix or TH-cam etc, firstly, Steam has a full web browser, and also, you can add any app directly to Steam, to be launched and managed by Steam...I personally haven't done something like that, so I don't know if Steam allows the controller to be used in those apps, but you can certainly launch it with Steam, and the xbox controller home button can be used to pull yourself back into big picture mode.(And you can map that feature to other controllers)
"you can do everything you can do on a PC on a series X" Ok. So how about you try and edit a video? Or do your college homework? Or watch porn or whatever? Or take it on the go (if you choose to get a gaming laptop)? If the series X isn't playing games or watching Netflix, it can't do it.
also, console peasants say controllers don't work on pc or you cannot hook up a pc on tv lol have they not hear of a USB cable or you cannot use a controller blue tooth wow . also why do ya console people think you cannot use a controller on pc and play on tv have ya heard of an HDMI cable DVI is outdated not being used anymore in 2021 lol.
damn, checks all the console fanboy things oh boy it's crazy wouldn't happen to know and or seen few of fritanga's vids would you? your just about the same thing no offense. side note I overheard a group of people saying miss info on PC gaming when off to get food yesterday, too sadly one was "you need 5k for a good PC" and I think before I left with food they said you need a disc to install windows.... 🤦♂️ oh god I wish I added my knowing as my PC was on to who has a disc trey? like who!? ok prob a rare few but man I was too lazy to chime in and ain't wanna go full linus tech tips mode to randoms you know? I'll watch his PC build video for lulz good video with counters to his bull "claims"
the name to your video might be why people think your a pompous ass, i know you are unapologetic which i respect, but you might get more people to recieve your facts and information if you dont try to piss people off right away, because your right but people wont take your facts if you piss them off right away
Good lord, coming from a console player, im so tired of the "plug and play" argument for consoles, that hasn't been a thing since like the sixth generation at best
But how is turning a PC on and starting a game not plug and play?
@@durshurrikun150 ohh you cant use discs except you can you have to download them on both
28:42 you see, that's the main problem. You open Google on a PC, he has to open Google on a console.
People really need to learn what a search engine is
A search engine prevents litterly every single bit of misinformation in this world, but only when people know how to use a search engine.
Dense ppl, you can build a low gaming pc (Which will run every game on 1080p) with the same price that an serie x and next year you can upgrade and you are on another level.
I went to the source and he said he eventually did build a PC, yet he still stands by what he says in the video. Also he included a 1000W PSU in his build. Jeezus!!!!
Well now lovelace is rumored to use over 400wats, I think he made worthly investment with that power suply.
@@florinsebastian1540 And you think he has the money for a 4090 or 4080 16gb?
@@florinsebastian1540 its called underclocking
I know this video's 3 years old, but here's a comment on the "But I can do this on my laptop" thing.
That literally means... you have to buy a 500$ console AND an at minimum 500$ Laptop, or to get a laptop that's actually worth a damned, closer to 800 to 1000$ to do editing and such. That's disregarding the other uses for a graphics card on a PC. I know this is all about "gaming" performance, but some people have other hobbies asides from gaming. I started a new one, 3D animation. And let me tell you, the GPU I chose is a god-send for this type of work load. Made upgrades to my PC specifically to enhance my experiences to 3D animation.
So while yes... you can replicate the experiences of PC with a console + a decent laptop... you cannot match the full experience of having a powerful gaming PC. It's like I always say, choice is scary to console fanatics...
I thought it was going to be different arguments, but I guess we are going BACK TO OUR ROOTS BABY
Fan fact. When I build my first PC, I dont even know what drivers are. I just instal what ever is insaid those CD. And that works fine many yers with no any updates.
21:12 he was correct about 120 fps on fortnite for new gen but you need a monitor that supports it
The reason we skipped windows 9 is due to legacy support software using "Win9*" and similar tags to refer to Windows 95/98. Rather than fix a billion lines of code, they just skipped a number
Hell, my drivers update automatically.
I did get a 3070, but unfortunately I can only get 1080p due to my monitor being so shit. But hey, I got lucky getting one in the first place, and it’s a hell of an upgrade from my 1070. Absolute BUTTER
Try Costco. I got an LG 2k 32" monitor at 165 mhz for $250. Just upgraded from a 1060 6 gb to a used 3080 off Ebay for $600 tax and shipping. Working great since early December.
I think its a lot harder to open Google on a console.
I never seen people so attached to something that consists of plastic metal circuits and silicon.
Just, wow, are fanboys this attached to their plastic boxes because they are trying to rationalize their purchase? Dude, you don't need to do that, you like it more than PC? Go ahead, when it comes to taste and preferences, there is no wrong or right option.
i did the Leo sitting forward in his chair snapping and whistling at the TV meme when the clip from Bill Burr's "no reason to hit a woman" bit popped on screen. +5 points indeed, sir.
Now that you upgraded your PC, can you please stream more often? I like your streams.
Ain't it funny that now consoles cost even more (like 600€) while you can get a capable PC with a larger SSD for 400€
I've heard the trade in argument before, but it makes NO fucking sense to me! Maybe I'm dumb, but one person claimed, they got rid of a PS4, games, and a guitar... All to afford an XBOX! That person still had to pay $300 for his Xbox... That's NOT a deal! You're giving away more than you originally had to get enough money to partially buy what you needed to...
To be a budget gamer you should get stuff in the second hand market like old consoles
Pc parts too!!!
Hey Joe can you make a video about Gamers Nexus video about PS5 vs PC??
Because in that video Steve showed that PS5 is actually a mid to high end PC from about 5 years ago and he said PS5 GPU is equivalent to a 1060 6GB and he actually proved it with data.
It would be a cool video and you'll get to angry some Playstation fanboys.
Love your work by the way.
I hope Joe made a video about that.
It will be awesome.
Yes!
The comments section there is completely toxic, in defense of the PS5.
It happens whenever a Gamers Nexus Video comes in contact with a "Wider Demographic".
@@jakedeschamps4454 just to let you know. What he said was already been shitted on. Because he ran games that was not pushing the ps5. The ps5 has been tested against newer pcs an it is right there with them. Smh
@@donnellbrown4575 no it isn't, sorry.
I’m gonna watch his video see if he has learned anything after playing on pc
Says you need the best graphics card to keep up me with a 1650 fucking laptop card. Love you Joe.
Maybe if they hadn't spent all that time complaining about PC players they could have learned to properly key out the green in their animations. Also, you gonna love that 2070 dude, enjoy it :)
Doesn't the 1080 ti run games better than the Series X and PS5?
The equivalent gpu of ps5 is rtx 2070, but that doesn't mean ps5 has rtx 2070 performance. Far from it. If you look at pure fps in games at 1080p medium settings, because that's the settings the ps5 plays most games at then even the gtx 1080ti gets more fps than a ps5 in most games and it's not even close, I mean 1080ti gets way more than 120 fps in most games at 1080p medium.
How were you playing Arkham City? Cause there was a lot of screen tearing.
Yeah the recording wasn't great, not sure why. Game runs like a dream though, recording doesn't do it justice
Congratulations on your RTX 2070 dude. I have a RTX 2060 Super Aorus great GPU purchased it new day 1 release have it now for over 1 year.
pc better than console handheld pc like the rog ally better than nintendo switch in every way
Hey Joe. Congrats on upgrading your PC and getting a 2070. Im here enjoying the 3070.
I still have a 1070 :(
@@polystrate1 i'm on a 500 series GPU ..... guess which one?
i'll give you a hint 🥔 😭
@@M4TTYN what games are you playing on that beast?
Me too, though ironically I’m not really playing many demanding games on it. However, Half Life Alyx runs on high settings like butter through a thousand degree knife.
1080ti over here. No real issues in gaming, but I can't try that sweet RTX.
Sorry but I build too many pcs so no to this guy. Also, I am building another one to spike this guy with 3700x and rx 6700 xt or 6800.
and two nintendo switch exclusive games on pc and hand full playstation games as well .
I play on PC and would say the setup for PC is greater than console. The console is more user friendly. Not saying it never has issues. Just that the UI makes it very obvious what the user has to do.
9:50 Can you name literally any physical PC game released in recent years that hasn't locked into steam, origin, etc? There may have been a couple, but as far as I am aware resellable PC games hasn't been a thing for years,
you can buy physical games from retailers like Target, Gamestop, Walmart, Best Buy.
@@austinlaurey3846 None of them sell used PC games.
I want 15 consoles and all games access on PC!!! There, now everyone is happy!!!
physical games on PC... ehhhhhhh kinda? I mean yeah there are physical releases for PC but they're not nearly as vast as they used to be and compared to the amount of physical releases on consoles, and most PCs don't even have disc drives anymore. I'm not saying you're wrong because, you're not, there are physical releases on PC but I don't think there's nearly as many as console players have.
mind you i am both a console and PC gamer
You forgot Windows 2000 and Windows M.E.
1.never saw a physical pc game and 2.how can I sell my pc games for money?
1:04 this made my day better as a 2080 ti owner who has freinds with a 3090 🥲
I mean, he’s right
even my 1080 ti runs vr games at 4k ultra
@@jeff-hd9og At 60 fps?
I splurged when I built my pc 4 years ago and got a 1080 and ryzen 1600 and only spent roughly 1100 and it still out paces the consoles. How did he spend 3000 did he put diamonds in the case or something?
Edit: does this dude think steam is the only pc store or I'd he just ignoring gog, greenman, humblebundle, etc.. epic just sucks in comparison to all others.
pc quick resume = nyrna
I have a triple fan msi 2070 and i'm happy with my setup
20:33 Yeah fortnite, one of the most competitive games out there, that pros play with m&k at like 390 hz monitors. Yeah console is all you need for that....
Joe forgot about windows Mojave
I didn't want to build a PC... so instead I bought a laptop that has everything I'd generally want in a computer while also being portable (Which you can still do with desktops btw) The GPD Pocket 3 has served me well and it's weird that this guy is acting like you need to build a gaming PC to be a PC gamer
Hol up dude!Am I now a console peasant just because I prefer the controls on the consoles over pc and play on console?!
Not as long as you understand that PC is objectively better.
@@RukaGoldheartPC is better but i prefer the controls of console.
@@deralius3411 That’s fine and all, but you can use controllers on PC as well
🥕🐡 UEHH
So this guy wants to tell me that an rtx 3080 that struggles to pull high frame rates with Ray tracing turned on at a higher settings and yet somehow a $500 console can pull it off at 120fps
Secondly, you probably could pull off multiple games running in the background so long as you have enough ram
Thirdly, i have no idea what his search radius was but a simple budget pc builds will show you an infinite results.. this video reminded me of an old saying that goes like this;
He who knows not and knows not that they know not is a fool, shun him
i have a next gen console and i dont even use it
Why get it then?
no idea, just a stupid impulse buy@@Crocc101
Damn some people just have no idea 🤦🤦, my rx580 (from 2017) does better than my dads series s 🤷♂️
11:36 Instead of spending $500 for a laptop, and spending $500 for a console(and the $120 or whatever for a year subscription to simply unblock your internet for gaming), I could spend $1000 and get a decent gaming laptop, assuming you NEED a laptop for some legitimate purpose, like taking it to uni/work whatever, rather then just having it static on your desk, in which case you're always better off with a full desktop PC, if you buy a laptop because it is trendy, or for the simple "idea" of it behind portable, without any actual need for a portable PC, you're an idiot.
The laptop I looked at btw, has a Ryzen 7 CPU, with an RTX 2060, which looking at benchmarks, achieves 62.3 FPS in Cyberpunk 2077 at 1080p medium settings, and that is with DLSS OFF, if you turned DLSS on you could run at higher settings/resolution and maintain 60 FPS.
Or you could build a desktop for the same price and easily run loops around the above laptop(and next gen consoles)
14:05 Linus recently did a video, made a $580 build with 4+ year old hardware, had a GTX 1070, and for as close to the same visuals, achieved 4k 60 FPS on the PC, matching the Series X pretty damn closely, yes, the GTX 1070 doesn't have raytracing, but based on the performance of the superior version of AMDs GPU included in both next gen consoles, the RX 6800/RX 6800 XT/RX 6900, don't expect raytracing on the consoles to get anywhere near what PC has in that regard.
And again, that was a build meant to match the price of the console, spend a little bit more to get an RTX card(or an AMD RX 6000 series if you don't care about raytracing or DLSS), and you already have a far superior system, so much for your "DOUBLE THE PRICE" BS...unless of course, you try to get a gaming laptop, then, yeah, expect to pay double the price, but if you JUST buy the laptop, instead of buying a laptop and a console, you can actually save money, as I stated above.
15:15 I think one mistake console gamers who get PCs make, is assuming console games are running on max visual settings, and so when they build a PC that "matches the console", they end up disappointed because the Xbox One X can do "4k 60FPS", but when they try, they run the game at max settings in 4k, and then come to the conclusion their PC is weaker because they are not getting 60 FPS.
If you match the settings of the console version, you will get very similar performance with equivalent hardware on PC, of course, it will never be 100% equivalent, because consoles are custom built, and they can cut some corners here and there in order to save money, but still provide "decent" gaming performance.
Another thing a lot of people misunderstand is the importance of the CPU, I feel a lot of people overspend on this for a gaming PC, CPU is less important for simply playing games, take a look at some CPU gaming benchmarks sometime, you will see the difference between a current gen low end CPU and high end CPU is negligible, yet the price difference is hundreds of dollars.
Not only that, higher price isn't always better performance, I was just looking at benchmarks for a very CPU heavy game.
Intels CPUS(10000 series) range from $262 (80FPS) to $464 (98FPS), AMD CPUs range from $299 (Ryzen 5 5600X, 154FPS) to $549 (Ryzen 9 5900X, 148FPS).
But then if you look at most games, take Red Dead Redemption 2 for example, 1080p Max settings(higher resolution only makes the CPU less important):
Lowest FPS is an Intel Core I5-10600K($262) at 90 FPS
Highest FPS is an Intel Core i9-10850K($464) at 95.4 FPS
Would you really spend $200 more for 5 FPS? Especially when you're already at 90 FPS.
Just as a comparison, at 8k minimum settings:
Lowest, Intel Core i5-10600K($262): 30.5 FPS
Highest, Intel Core i9-10850K($464): 32.8 FPS
Now, for GPUs, the GPU used in the CPU benchmarks above, was the RTX 2080 Ti, using the same game, at 4k Ultra:
RTX 2080 Ti($999 RRP): 56.8 FPS
RTX 3080($699 RRP): 72.2 FPS
RTX 3070($499 RRP): 54.3 FPS
So now for around $200 more, we go from 54.3 FPS to 72.2 FPS, so if I go with the cheaper CPU option, saving $200, and put that $200 into the GPU instead, I am going to have a MUCH better time with gaming for the same price.
Education and research man, do it, and if you are completely clueless, ask someone, we aren't all asses, plenty are willing to help.
15:40 Correct, I have a GTX 1080 Ti, I built my PC in 2018 just a few months before the RTX series was announced, so my GPU is 4 year old hardware, the RTX 3060 Ti and RTX 3070 just....is not worth the upgrade in general performance for me, sure I would get raytracing and DLSS, and that alone is pretty tempting, but the 80% of the time I am not using those features, the performance boost I just don't see as being worth it.
I don't just need to justify the price difference between my current card and new card, I have to justify the entire price of the new card, it is much easier justifying paying "$699" for a significant performance boost, over "$499" for a small performance boost, or "$399"(RTX 3060 Ti) for an even smaller performance boost, and there is no way to justify "$1499" for the RTX 3090, at least not for gaming.
Edit: Oh I forgot to add what my main point was, I am likely to wait for the RTX 40 series, or AMD equivalent if they catch up on raytracing performance, so I can totally understand not upgrading yet from an RTX 20 series.
19:10 Honestly, while I am sure 120 FPS makes some kind of small difference for consoles, I highly doubt most console gamers would even notice going from 60 -> 120 FPS, because the controllers, believe it or not, are less sensitive to framerate issues, because they are not as precise as a mouse.
Even a casual gamer like me, pushed down settings in Overwatch, to go from 4k 80FPS to 4k 120+ FPS, because I could actually feel the difference with mouse aiming, even at a fairly smooth 80 FPS, granted it also depends on the game, but the point is, controllers are less sensitive to input latency.
21:45 I appreciate that consoles, as baseline hardware, will now support raytracing, that means greater adoption of raytracing moving forwards, however, as I covered previously, raytracing is going to be MINIMAL on consoles.
23:47 Exactly.
24:12 Hell no, fuck Epic, but especially fuck Apple, PC gamers overwhelmingly, do not buy Macs, according to the Steam Hardware survey, 3.44% of all steam users are running OSX, with 95.65% of users running Windows. Now, some of that windows percentage is Mac users who Bootcamp into windows for gaming, that is much harder to gage, but I guarantee there is probably more linux gamers then people who do that(0.91% of all Steam users run some form of linux).
25:00 I mean...there is Steams Big Screen mode....which I would argue is far superior...because you can even customize your controller layout within it, while using a controller, per game, among other things.
And before someone(if anyone has bothered reading this mammoth comment to this point) mention about other things like Netflix or TH-cam etc, firstly, Steam has a full web browser, and also, you can add any app directly to Steam, to be launched and managed by Steam...I personally haven't done something like that, so I don't know if Steam allows the controller to be used in those apps, but you can certainly launch it with Steam, and the xbox controller home button can be used to pull yourself back into big picture mode.(And you can map that feature to other controllers)
"you can do everything you can do on a PC on a series X"
Ok. So how about you try and edit a video? Or do your college homework? Or watch porn or whatever? Or take it on the go (if you choose to get a gaming laptop)?
If the series X isn't playing games or watching Netflix, it can't do it.
also, console peasants say controllers don't work on pc or you cannot hook up a pc on tv lol have they not hear of a USB cable or you cannot use a controller blue tooth wow . also why do ya console people think you cannot use a controller on pc and play on tv have ya heard of an HDMI cable DVI is outdated not being used anymore in 2021 lol.
I use gaming laptop 💻
damn, checks all the console fanboy things oh boy it's crazy wouldn't happen to know and or seen few of fritanga's vids would you? your just about the same thing no offense.
side note I overheard a group of people saying miss info on PC gaming when off to get food yesterday, too sadly one was "you need 5k for a good PC" and I think before I left with food they said you need a disc to install windows.... 🤦♂️ oh god I wish I added my knowing as my PC was on to who has a disc trey? like who!? ok prob a rare few but man I was too lazy to chime in and ain't wanna go full linus tech tips mode to randoms you know?
I'll watch his PC build video for lulz good video with counters to his bull "claims"
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FirZt
why would you buy a console to play shitty fortnite its on pc multiplayer is so boring
the name to your video might be why people think your a pompous ass, i know you are unapologetic which i respect, but you might get more people to recieve your facts and information if you dont try to piss people off right away, because your right but people wont take your facts if you piss them off right away
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Why do these fanboys jump to PC community in general like they are holding these fanboys at gunpoint?