@@TheGreenerLawn The microbes had made a huge difference in cutting down my thatch and just making the lawn more green and visually just looking better. I also like to pair this one with Root Booster and give it a powerful punch of microbes!
@okay so starting April 1st will apply every 6 weeks. That's about 6 or 7 applications. Will be interesting in mid September when I usually use my electric dethatcher TheGreenerLawn
@@brodygoalie def! It will help to keep a healthy layer it should, if no major issues arise keep your thatch below 1/2” easily, as this is a healthy layer and very Benificial layer.
Thanks for the video! I have huge pactches of the stuff in my back yard. Plan on treating later today with the TTTB. How soon after I treat with the TTTB can I have TruGreen come out and treat/fertilize/weed ? Thanks!
@@BriaMajors never 🥴 lol u can do it for cheaper and better yourself. All joking aside, there isn’t any restriction on any of these products being applied at the same time as this. You’re fine to have them come any time.
Those attachments are homeowner grade, meant for a lot of error and not accurate. A battery sprayer is very precise (for pros or homeowners alike who calibrate) and much quicker application.
I know you forgot to film a follow-up, but would you please describe results for me? Thank you. I'm also wondering if it'll help bare patches under shaded areas and can i apply grass seed the same day I use this on bare dirt..?
One year later I’m less then 1/16 of an inch. No need to use on bare dirt, it’s meant to eat material. Lack of material will not give it a good source and will die.
Too much thatch (above1/2 inch) will choke out the grass and could cause fungal issues before the grass could break it down. Normally if there aren’t any stressors that are causing issues on your lawn, your grass will break it down easily and quickly that you will never know. So, how long? Heat helps break it down as the microbes are activated and will break it down. A few inches of thatch would decimate your lawn before it would break it down. What grass type do you have?
@@TheGreenerLawn I live in Nj. I have the usual mix of Kentucky blue, tall fescue and perennial rye. I overseeded in the fall with Johnathan green black beauty. Last few years I have struggled with dollar spot and rust. I did a soil probe and the thatch looks like it’s honestly 2 inches but the grass isn’t choked out just lots of fungus every year. My lawn just feels really spongy. So this year I was going try adding the microbes and cut my watering back. I’m just curious if my thatch is that bad will these products knock it down in a reasonable time?
@@chrisbrown6697 until it’s above 80 degrees, it’s better to do mechanical dethatching vs microbial . The microbes aren’t quite up to par until the temps rise. Then at that temp point it will help out a lot. What time of day are you watering? How many days a week? Mind sending me pics to info@diygrasscare.com ?
@@brodygoalie depends, thatch occurs because a lawn is under stress. So if The Lawn is actually under too much stress, it can drop a lot of that and it would be hard for a mechanical means to break it down quickly because it’s a slow process because they’re using my grubs to break it down. But if you get normal that and you aren’t having any kind of excess issues from fungus or overwatering or excessive drought or Season change, it will hang well. There could still be reasons why you would have to use a detach machine in the future, but if your lawn is healthy and performing well, this will really help to manage and feed those nutrients back to your soil.
Depending on liquid areation, just use baby shampoo, same active ingredient laurel sulphate for way cheaper th-cam.com/video/cKcOeZ1fcxY/w-d-xo.html Not at all overkill, as it will help break down any existing and feed it back for an awesome green up!
@@igormord8636 they recommend 6oz per 4-6 weeks is all you “need”, if you does more, it’s not exponential, as they are living organisms and overcrowding just means something will be out compete (likely the same strain, unless others compete for the same resources). So it’s more wasteful as the microbes over compete their their selfs resulting in loss of your product you applied. My guess and this is pure speculation, and no where founded in facts, but most things like this they under dose, because they know people are moreon’s, not morons… a little on is good so MORE ON is BETTER… so they under do it by a margin. I know that’s how herbicides sold to consumers work, pro products are way higher concentrated by far! I bet it’s the same. I’d say you’re realistically 30-36 oz max a year for most places for this per 1k. Most people prob will be 18-24oz
Yup, not going to hurt a thing. It will help That miracle gro get into the soil and work better with out a huge thatch layer. It’s also going to feed the thatch back so you get a green up off it too!
Nope, just like your natural microbes, these microbes will say in areas where they are placed (with in reason right?). If you have a horrible rain surf washes away, they will too but they will not be affected by regular rain that doesn’t remove regular material. Great question.
Great video! Got some questions: -New house build with sod laid down last year in November. -Located in TX. Is it okay to use that product now? And any restrictions with using herbicide or fertilizer along with it?
Nope awesome time to use it. Nope no restrictions. There are other products you can use it with from their products or with any other herbicides or fertilizer.
Video mentions that you can do it weekly; my bottle (garden hose ready) says every 4-6 weeks. Any thoughts? Hope this helps; I’ve tried everything else. Also, does anyone know if you can use regular lawn fertilizer with this product?
Yup, so this video was made with original packaging, they have changed their schedule since. I work with the owner closely so I know quite a bit about these. Yes, it will not cause any issues with any fertilizers. The microbes will do well with soil building ferts tho, better then synthetic , tbh, but it will not cause any issues at all. What issue are you dealing with?
@@TheGreenerLawn - Hey, appreciate the reply. Grass over the last few years is getting thinner and less healthy. I’m in Minnesota, so it’s just starting to come up this spring. I’m seeing a lot more patches with smaller tufts of lawn surrounded by dirt. I’ve tried machine aerating and overseeding in the past, but little success with little new growth, and seems to get a little worse each year. I’m too cheap to hire a professional service, so I’m going to give the Thatch Buster a try. I’ll check back in later this summer to let you know if I got any positive results. Do I really need to wait 6 weeks to add new seed after using the product?
+@em6727 do me a favor and send me some pics to info@diygrasscare.com I actually help 1000’s of people one on one yearly with their lawns transformations. Let’s get your lawn looking awesome. Your ok before then
No need to worry about prior mowing, just run your sprinklers to wash it down into the soil before you mow, unless you mulch then it doesn’t matter there either.
@@As-vt2ds ohh yea, no issues with that combo. Just add your water first if doing them in the same mix, if not then 0 issues layering them. As kinda a precursor to your first question, I checked thatch about two weeks ago and I was less then a quarter of an inch, so something took out my thatch… I thought about making it a video, but it could be a few things that did it… but def could of been the thatch buster as well.
When I was a kid we used to use the cheapest Soda pop and put that in a Hose and sprayer find spray at on the alarm to help with thatch.. Sugar creates quick bacteria at least that's what I think..
Might be some truth to it, molasses will help the microbes (that you have), not create them, energize up and break down thatch. (Our lawns can do this naturally as long as it’s not being overpowered). This adds the microbes that do this action, so we have more to accomplish the task, not just get the ones in there energized. But you actually might be in to something lol
Won't adding different micro biology into the lawn affect the micro biology already existing in your lawn???? Competition of the fittest? I just add enzymes and Molasses to my lawn and it make my existing micro biology kick into high gear. Higher soil temperatures also help as that is when your micro biology is the most active...
Always a good question. I know they have used this technology for years in farming industry BW Fusion, (bw-fusion.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjwxr2iBhBJEiwAdXECw2jLAfj9wlP-ZiS5aN-8MO2i6uOvQhtZrLXo9BJV7-Ud7YYJNk2zfhoC4iMQAvD_BwE) with great success, so they brought it to the homeowner grass market.
Directly turf titans president Andrew: “We are only adding 28-32 species depending on the product. If you are talking about a compost tea product where you have no idea what organisms are being introduced that maybe could be a concern. Our team of microbes have specific functions and aren’t going to compete with any of the existing biology. We want these guys in your soil.”
Can you use this when the soil is wet from rain and just spray with the hose lightly? Also has anyone used this on St. Augustine? If so, what were your results?
As I don’t understand your question (the or question) , feel free to read anyone who has already asked this below, or clarify your questions so I can understand it a little bit better.
@@TexasDraped I get it, reach out to turf titan directly, they can get you that info. The owner Andrew is awesome. This is actually an old product BW Fusion (parent company) has been using in farm fields for years.
Thatchbuster is great stuff. Been using it for almost a year now and it has worked great!
I love to hear it! 🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻
I’m use to another product that doesn’t use microbes, and it works above 85… so these ranges are different for me!
@@TheGreenerLawn The microbes had made a huge difference in cutting down my thatch and just making the lawn more green and visually just looking better. I also like to pair this one with Root Booster and give it a powerful punch of microbes!
@@TheLawnLoverso you do not dethatch??
How often do you recommend using thatch buster during the season? Once a month? Thanks. Love your vids!!
They said every 6 weeks is optimal.
@okay so starting April 1st will apply every 6 weeks. That's about 6 or 7 applications. Will be interesting in mid September when I usually use my electric dethatcher TheGreenerLawn
@@brodygoalie def! It will help to keep a healthy layer it should, if no major issues arise keep your thatch below 1/2” easily, as this is a healthy layer and very Benificial layer.
I need to lay grass seed, when would be the best time when using this product?
@@ejleon1 no issues with laying it during seeding. You can use it as you se problems or as a preventative through out the year.
@@TheGreenerLawn thank you!
Thanks for the video! I have huge pactches of the stuff in my back yard. Plan on treating later today with the TTTB. How soon after I treat with the TTTB can I have TruGreen come out and treat/fertilize/weed ? Thanks!
@@BriaMajors never 🥴 lol u can do it for cheaper and better yourself.
All joking aside, there isn’t any restriction on any of these products being applied at the same time as this. You’re fine to have them come any time.
@@TheGreenerLawn I am beginning to think I can😀 Ok thank you and thanks for your videos!
@@BriaMajors here for ya any time you need me! Just holler! (Ps you can 🤣)
Why did you transfer to a sprayer instead of using the original container/sprayer attachment?
Those attachments are homeowner grade, meant for a lot of error and not accurate. A battery sprayer is very precise (for pros or homeowners alike who calibrate) and much quicker application.
I know you forgot to film a follow-up, but would you please describe results for me? Thank you. I'm also wondering if it'll help bare patches under shaded areas and can i apply grass seed the same day I use this on bare dirt..?
One year later I’m less then 1/16 of an inch.
No need to use on bare dirt, it’s meant to eat material. Lack of material will not give it a good source and will die.
How long will does thatch take to break down. Like how many years would it take to get rid of a few inches
Too much thatch (above1/2 inch) will choke out the grass and could cause fungal issues before the grass could break it down. Normally if there aren’t any stressors that are causing issues on your lawn, your grass will break it down easily and quickly that you will never know.
So, how long? Heat helps break it down as the microbes are activated and will break it down.
A few inches of thatch would decimate your lawn before it would break it down.
What grass type do you have?
@@TheGreenerLawn I live in Nj. I have the usual mix of Kentucky blue, tall fescue and perennial rye. I overseeded in the fall with Johnathan green black beauty. Last few years I have struggled with dollar spot and rust. I did a soil probe and the thatch looks like it’s honestly 2 inches but the grass isn’t choked out just lots of fungus every year. My lawn just feels really spongy. So this year I was going try adding the microbes and cut my watering back. I’m just curious if my thatch is that bad will these products knock it down in a reasonable time?
@@chrisbrown6697 until it’s above 80 degrees, it’s better to do mechanical dethatching vs microbial . The microbes aren’t quite up to par until the temps rise. Then at that temp point it will help out a lot.
What time of day are you watering? How many days a week?
Mind sending me pics to info@diygrasscare.com ?
Jeremy, great stuff! What product do you use above 85 degrees?
I use diygrasscare.com/products/0-0-2-d-thatch-liquid-dethatch-n-ext?_pos=1&_psq=Detha&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Wow weekly?? As long as i do not have to dethatch anymore?? I pull up alot of drad grass every September!
Some people, including my self yea.
Dethatch is awesome
So you never use a dethatching machine???@@TheGreenerLawn
@@brodygoalie depends, thatch occurs because a lawn is under stress. So if The Lawn is actually under too much stress, it can drop a lot of that and it would be hard for a mechanical means to break it down quickly because it’s a slow process because they’re using my grubs to break it down. But if you get normal that and you aren’t having any kind of excess issues from fungus or overwatering or excessive drought or Season change, it will hang well. There could still be reasons why you would have to use a detach machine in the future, but if your lawn is healthy and performing well, this will really help to manage and feed those nutrients back to your soil.
Would be adding this after using a greenworks be overkill? Maybe add in some liquid aeration?
Depending on liquid areation, just use baby shampoo, same active ingredient laurel sulphate for way cheaper th-cam.com/video/cKcOeZ1fcxY/w-d-xo.html
Not at all overkill, as it will help break down any existing and feed it back for an awesome green up!
Is there a minimum soil temp that's necessary for this product to work?
50 degrees as it has microbes and it’s the temp they activate at.
how much of this stuff can you use annually? limit on oz per 1000 per year?
@@igormord8636 they recommend 6oz per 4-6 weeks is all you “need”, if you does more, it’s not exponential, as they are living organisms and overcrowding just means something will be out compete (likely the same strain, unless others compete for the same resources). So it’s more wasteful as the microbes over compete their their selfs resulting in loss of your product you applied.
My guess and this is pure speculation, and no where founded in facts, but most things like this they under dose, because they know people are moreon’s, not morons… a little on is good so MORE ON is BETTER… so they under do it by a margin. I know that’s how herbicides sold to consumers work, pro products are way higher concentrated by far! I bet it’s the same.
I’d say you’re realistically 30-36 oz max a year for most places for this per 1k. Most people prob will be 18-24oz
Can you add liquid thatch and liquid aerator at the same time?
Yup, shouldn’t be a problem in that. What liquid areation are you thinking, I could save you money Vs certain ones.
Is it ok to use Thatch buster and miracle gro lawn food after? Thank you in advance and great video!
Yup, not going to hurt a thing. It will help
That miracle gro get into the soil and work better with out a huge thatch layer. It’s also going to feed the thatch back so you get a green up off it too!
Will normal rain fall wash it away?
Nope, just like your natural microbes, these microbes will say in areas where they are placed (with in reason right?). If you have a horrible rain surf washes away, they will too but they will not be affected by regular rain that doesn’t remove regular material.
Great question.
Do all the herbicides we spray end up killing off the microbes?
Pretty much… that’s why we should use them sparingly and not blanket I’d we don’t need to.
Great video! Got some questions:
-New house build with sod laid down last year in November.
-Located in TX.
Is it okay to use that product now? And any restrictions with using herbicide or fertilizer along with it?
Nope awesome time to use it.
Nope no restrictions. There are other products you can use it with from their products or with any other herbicides or fertilizer.
Video mentions that you can do it weekly; my bottle (garden hose ready) says every 4-6 weeks. Any thoughts? Hope this helps; I’ve tried everything else. Also, does anyone know if you can use regular lawn fertilizer with this product?
Yup, so this video was made with original packaging, they have changed their schedule since. I work with the owner closely so I know quite a bit about these.
Yes, it will not cause any issues with any fertilizers. The microbes will do well with soil building ferts tho, better then synthetic , tbh, but it will not cause any issues at all.
What issue are you dealing with?
@@TheGreenerLawn - Hey, appreciate the reply. Grass over the last few years is getting thinner and less healthy. I’m in Minnesota, so it’s just starting to come up this spring. I’m seeing a lot more patches with smaller tufts of lawn surrounded by dirt. I’ve tried machine aerating and overseeding in the past, but little success with little new growth, and seems to get a little worse each year. I’m too cheap to hire a professional service, so I’m going to give the Thatch Buster a try. I’ll check back in later this summer to let you know if I got any positive results.
Do I really need to wait 6 weeks to add new seed after using the product?
+@em6727 do me a favor and send me some pics to info@diygrasscare.com
I actually help 1000’s of people one on one yearly with their lawns transformations. Let’s get your lawn looking awesome.
Your ok before then
What type of grass do you have?
I have Kentucky blue and rye. My clients that have been using this have had - Fescue, Bermuda and zoyzia. (That I have see it works well with).
How many times should I mow prior to using thatch buster, and how long do i need to wait to mow once its been sprayed?
No need to worry about prior mowing, just run your sprinklers to wash it down into the soil before you mow, unless you mulch then it doesn’t matter there either.
@@TheGreenerLawn Thank you!
@@BrittneyJeffs-cg1uh anytime!
Where is the follow-up vid on this?
Life caught up with me, I’ll be doing videos on a few of their products this season, including the thatch in my lawn.
@TheGreenerLawn alright sounds I was thinking of mixing liquid iron, liquid dethatcher and tenacity to spray on my turf, reckon it will be fine?
@@As-vt2ds ohh yea, no issues with that combo. Just add your water first if doing them in the same mix, if not then 0 issues layering them.
As kinda a precursor to your first question, I checked thatch about two weeks ago and I was less then a quarter of an inch, so something took out my thatch… I thought about making it a video, but it could be a few things that did it… but def could of been the thatch buster as well.
@TheGreenerLawn alright got it. I will probably lay this down after tomorrow (just mowed). Cool, thanks for your input and update on the thatchbuster
@@As-vt2ds were you saying ur going to lay thatch buster down?
Great video, sir. I will be ordering asap
Love it! I can’t wait for you to let us know your results! 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Great video Jeremy OF… The Greener Lawn 😂
🤨… sus…. Lol thanks Jason!
When I was a kid we used to use the cheapest Soda pop and put that in a Hose and sprayer find spray at on the alarm to help with thatch.. Sugar creates quick bacteria at least that's what I think..
Might be some truth to it, molasses will help the microbes (that you have), not create them, energize up and break down thatch. (Our lawns can do this naturally as long as it’s not being overpowered). This adds the microbes that do this action, so we have more to accomplish the task, not just get the ones in there energized.
But you actually might be in to something lol
Ok very good thanks
No prob Dylan!
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First person to catch this… 🥹
I liked the THUMBNAIL a lot 😊👍🔥🔥🔥
lol u know where I got that statement from… but I always sing when I read this one 😂😂
Nice!
+D S I agree!
Won't adding different micro biology into the lawn affect the micro biology already existing in your lawn???? Competition of the fittest? I just add enzymes and Molasses to my lawn and it make my existing micro biology kick into high gear. Higher soil temperatures also help as that is when your micro biology is the most active...
Always a good question. I know they have used this technology for years in farming industry BW Fusion, (bw-fusion.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjwxr2iBhBJEiwAdXECw2jLAfj9wlP-ZiS5aN-8MO2i6uOvQhtZrLXo9BJV7-Ud7YYJNk2zfhoC4iMQAvD_BwE) with great success, so they brought it to the homeowner grass market.
Directly turf titans president Andrew: “We are only adding 28-32 species depending on the product. If you are talking about a compost tea product where you have no idea what organisms are being introduced that maybe could be a concern. Our team of microbes have specific functions and aren’t going to compete with any of the existing biology. We want these guys in your soil.”
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Can you use this when the soil is wet from rain and just spray with the hose lightly? Also has anyone used this on St. Augustine? If so, what were your results?
So where is the follow up? Or did you lie and show me a video about you doing your lawn?
As I don’t understand your question (the or question) , feel free to read anyone who has already asked this below, or clarify your questions so I can understand it a little bit better.
@TheGreenerLawn it seams hard to find an actual trial that documents the progress or lack thereof
@@TexasDraped I get it, reach out to turf titan directly, they can get you that info. The owner Andrew is awesome. This is actually an old product BW Fusion (parent company) has been using in farm fields for years.