You can use milo but in all honestly it’s not my favorite. I feel like the cost vs nitrogen is just not there and you want something that’s going to be a little more quick release to help with the stress you just put the lawn through. Urea based fertilizer is the best option. Personally I like turf Titan lawn commander. turftitanbrands.com/products/lawn-commander?sca_ref=3794868.U6QV0L4C14 Plenty of urea and will help the lawn bounce back. The link above will save you 10% if you use it but like I said any urea nitrogen fertilizer is the best option.
@@johnwhite2576if you had put down pre emergent the dethatching process will break that and essentially remove it. You’re able to spray a preemergent after dethatching but honestly if your lawn is nice and thick you may not need it. If you want to throw seed down you definitely cannot use preemergent though since it will keep the seeds from germinating.
Definitely feed it after dethatching it. Like to think of it as a workout, after you hit the gym you need the protein to recover. Your lawn needs the nitrogen.
Thanks for the video. I just started do this for the first time today, using a leaf rake. I wasn't aware that they had machines for that. Although I have heard that some people find it relaxing to do the whole yard by hand. I'm hoping these machines come in electric. I don't want another gas engine to get started in the spring. Although I never do protein drinks after a workout, I will fertilize my lawn after the thatching. Then it will really look cut.
They make some good battery or plug in dethatchers you can snag one on Amazon. I like these ones cause you get the dethatch and scarifier amzn.to/3W1jZ5c
Definitely want to mow lower before dethatching. I shocked my grass with a herbicide cocktail a little too late in spring, and wanted to dethatch for a 2nd time in the spring, after the poa was definitely stressed and dead. I skipped mowing low again because I didn't want to another wait 2 weeks for recovery, and I ended up ripping and thinning out much of the grass that gave it the carpet grass quality. Even though it's predominantly KBG, it did not spread quickly out again because all that blitz charge growth was already used up for the spring. So definitely mow lower, maybe wait to scalp after the seed stalks are done, then dethatch hopefully all before summer officially starts.
@@mattb9664 this grass game is tough too watching a lot of the weather forecasts and trying to predict things even the weather man can’t predict. I need to desperately aerate our lawn it’s struggling with the heat but I have to just wait it out
You're not supposed to dethatch your lawn that often. You're only supposed to dethatch whenever the lawn needs it, not every year (like most lawn enthusiasts does it) which is unnecessary. If you scalp and dethatch your lawn excessively, you are going to ruin it because, it's been overworked and abused.
@@bertpainter8385 because I have PRG I would reseed if there isn’t much green grass though you shouldn’t dethatch you want the lawn to not be stressed in this process.
@@treasuredLawn I had already dethatched that lawn. I was green somewhat with yellowing after cuts and much more grass until used scarified with the machine lightest setting. The grass seed used a maybe 5 years back when I tilled the backyard was Kentucky, rye, and fine fescue cool grass mix. But we had 2 months solid of 90+ heat mixed with heavy rains. My front yard up until the last few weeks has always been pristine. I haven't touch that part yet. I went to pick up seed for the back yard just now and the lawn store told me to let it's been too hot and wet this summer. Said to not thatch it and let it grow long and don't cut it yet. Let it dry out. The way he said it made me think he's been asked the same thing by a number of people. But I could tell they wanted to close shop for the weekend holiday. I did the back yard as test area. It was still ok but the same thing was happening as the front. I'll have to be patient and wait until later to see if the front clears up some before making a bad move. It stays mild through to November 1st here, so I have time to scarify or dethatch later.
Hey! It's around 55 or so during the day right now here, and starting to get chilly at night, 38-45 or so in the northeast. Is it too late to dethatch?? Should i just wait for the spring?
If your lawn is aggressively growing you can dethatch if you have noticed your lawn is slowing down on the growth I would wait till spring. You don’t want to dethatch and not give the lawn the ability to recover.
It truly depends on how you manage your lawn. If you never bag your clippings and you have a lawn like a KBG that’s has the rhizomes i would do it yearly. If you have a PRG and bag all your clippings you can get away with every other year or so as necessary. If you start to see your lawn isn’t getting nutrients that should be your tell that you need to give it some attention.
@@treasuredLawn it’s a spring loaded prong mounted on each end of a mower blade which i believe it not sharp. So it just supposed to rake the thatch disturbing it off the ground. Ace hardware Item # 7003239 | Mfr # RS-12
Lots of good products out there! I like the turf titan products they are easy to use and have a lot of great nutrients for the lawn especially after a dethatch. You can get them with the hose ends bottles and it’s super easy to apply. Straight urea or ammonium sulfate is also a great option as well but you will need to make sure you’re putting down the right rates. The stuff is potent!
How often does one need to fertilize ? Does time of the year matter? Beginner here the more videos I see the more it gets a little overwhelming as far as aerating, pre emergent, reseeding, detaching 😂
@@eduardo13405 I completely understand how it gets overwhelming! I was where you were a few years ago! Each fertilizer will tell you how often applications will last usually they can range anywhere from 4-6 weeks per application. I try my best to time up big projects like seedings, dethatch and aerating with that schedule. You can also do half applications which help in these situations. I use TurfTitan products so stuff like their 6 step bundle is great because it gives you everything you need for all your situations as well as a good calendar on when to apply the products on a regular schedule. turftitanbrands.com/products/6-step-bundle?sca_ref=3794868.U6QV0L4C14 Now you definitely don’t have to buy these. Anytime you do work like dethatch and aeration the one nutrient you need more than anything is nitrogen so a heavier nitrogen based product applied at the recommended amount will do you solid!
This is great content. Kudos! If you lay down pre-emergent every spring when soil temp avg around 53F when can you dethatch without ruining that layer of pre-emergent?
Once you break that soil level your pre emergent is no longer good so you have to time everything well and plan it out since you can only put that pre emergent down so many times a year. The pre emergent lasts about 3 months so if you wanted you could put down that first application and then 3 months do a dethatch and aeration too if you wanted and do another application of pre emergent after.
I have another question, sorry. I know you say to cut it first the dethatch, but it is early spring in New England, so do I still need to cut lawn before dethatching ?
@@treasuredLawn This would be a control measure as we do not want to use insecticides. I have noted with the hand rake approach the majority of CC is removed (I know it will grow back over time) and was questioning anyone's use of a drag dethatcher or power unit. Thx
If you have weeds and want to spray them I would do it before the dethatch maybe a week or two before this will give time for the weeds to die out and when you dethatch them it will remove those weeds for you. After the dethatch make sure to feed the lawn and even overseed to ensure you have a nice thick lawn where weeds will be unable to penetrate the soil.
@@mrs.danamcbrearty9373 no this is still far too early to do a dethatch in my opinion. You want it to be actively growing and if you can avoid doing it in the spring I would only because it could give you some weeds you’ll need to deal with after. Likely won’t be bad but if you don’t want to deal with weeds I’d wait till you’re closer to fall if you can.
“Give it a Lawn Protein Shake” love that comment. Very relatable with guys 😃
Keep the videos coming! Love it. I still have my sunjoe! 4years now!
I love this sunjoe! It’s such a great investment tool!
Thank you, I was about to start making mistakes 1-5, 😂
lol now you won’t 😂
What about Milogranite fertilizer after de thatching? And can you put fertilizer and overseed at the same time?
You can use milo but in all honestly it’s not my favorite. I feel like the cost vs nitrogen is just not there and you want something that’s going to be a little more quick release to help with the stress you just put the lawn through. Urea based fertilizer is the best option. Personally I like turf Titan lawn commander.
turftitanbrands.com/products/lawn-commander?sca_ref=3794868.U6QV0L4C14
Plenty of urea and will help the lawn bounce back.
The link above will save you 10% if you use it but like I said any urea nitrogen fertilizer is the best option.
Would you recommend seeding first and then fertilizing later on?
@@JosephLeopold-pe2mdafter you dethatch? Yes I would dethatch put down seed and then fertilize. Should give you the best results.
@@treasuredLawnyea but how does that integrate with pre emergent? Can’t reseed when you just put down or will put down pre emergent ?
@@johnwhite2576if you had put down pre emergent the dethatching process will break that and essentially remove it. You’re able to spray a preemergent after dethatching but honestly if your lawn is nice and thick you may not need it. If you want to throw seed down you definitely cannot use preemergent though since it will keep the seeds from germinating.
Well done. I never thought to re-energize the lawn after you dethatch it. I will try that myself this year.
Definitely feed it after dethatching it. Like to think of it as a workout, after you hit the gym you need the protein to recover. Your lawn needs the nitrogen.
Lol, it just needs a little lawn protein shake! Classic! Love it! 😊
Just a lil somethin! 🤣🤣
Thanks for the video. I just started do this for the first time today, using a leaf rake. I wasn't aware that they had machines for that. Although I have heard that some people find it relaxing to do the whole yard by hand. I'm hoping these machines come in electric. I don't want another gas engine to get started in the spring. Although I never do protein drinks after a workout, I will fertilize my lawn after the thatching. Then it will really look cut.
They make some good battery or plug in dethatchers you can snag one on Amazon. I like these ones cause you get the dethatch and scarifier
amzn.to/3W1jZ5c
I’d be exhausted doing it by hand and leaf rake will be hard to get down into the thatch layer. They make thatch rakes you can try
Thinking of using weed and feed for a lawn with a lot random weeds and crab grass after dethacting it. Is that okay ?
Nice to see that Aaron Rogers not only does his own lawn care but he also gives tips for good results for total strangers
😂😂😂 never gotten that comparison before! Much appreciate hope you enjoyed!
@@treasuredLawnI did, and sub'd. I need all the help I can get!
That’s not a compliment 😬
@@jenshaw8085interesting…
In the fall, for a cool season grass. Dethach, aerate and fertilize. Does this sequence work?
That’s perfect!
Definitely want to mow lower before dethatching. I shocked my grass with a herbicide cocktail a little too late in spring, and wanted to dethatch for a 2nd time in the spring, after the poa was definitely stressed and dead. I skipped mowing low again because I didn't want to another wait 2 weeks for recovery, and I ended up ripping and thinning out much of the grass that gave it the carpet grass quality. Even though it's predominantly KBG, it did not spread quickly out again because all that blitz charge growth was already used up for the spring.
So definitely mow lower, maybe wait to scalp after the seed stalks are done, then dethatch hopefully all before summer officially starts.
@@mattb9664 this grass game is tough too watching a lot of the weather forecasts and trying to predict things even the weather man can’t predict. I need to desperately aerate our lawn it’s struggling with the heat but I have to just wait it out
You're not supposed to dethatch your lawn that often. You're only supposed to dethatch whenever the lawn needs it, not every year (like most lawn enthusiasts does it) which is unnecessary. If you scalp and dethatch your lawn excessively, you are going to ruin it because, it's been overworked and abused.
If you see 50 to 60% dirt and not much green grass left after detaching should you re-seed or wait to to see if it comes back ok.
@@bertpainter8385 because I have PRG I would reseed if there isn’t much green grass though you shouldn’t dethatch you want the lawn to not be stressed in this process.
@@treasuredLawn I had already dethatched that lawn. I was green somewhat with yellowing after cuts and much more grass until used scarified with the machine lightest setting. The grass seed used a maybe 5 years back when I tilled the backyard was Kentucky, rye, and fine fescue cool grass mix. But we had 2 months solid of 90+ heat mixed with heavy rains. My front yard up until the last few weeks has always been pristine. I haven't touch that part yet. I went to pick up seed for the back yard just now and the lawn store told me to let it's been too hot and wet this summer. Said to not thatch it and let it grow long and don't cut it yet. Let it dry out. The way he said it made me think he's been asked the same thing by a number of people. But I could tell they wanted to close shop for the weekend holiday. I did the back yard as test area. It was still ok but the same thing was happening as the front. I'll have to be patient and wait until later to see if the front clears up some before making a bad move. It stays mild through to November 1st here, so I have time to scarify or dethatch later.
How soon can i seed for fall?
As soon as your temperatures are ready for it!
How about the agri fab pull behinds? I have one of those I just found for $25 couldn’t pass it up
Yeah absolutely same rules apply obviously those are used in larger areas with like a zero turn or something similar but same rules should apply still
@@treasuredLawn sweet. I do residentially and commercial mowing but looking to expand my services offered into this as well
@@ryanyoung2368 yeah that’s pretty solid I have never used one of these before specifically but should work the same I believe
Hey! It's around 55 or so during the day right now here, and starting to get chilly at night, 38-45 or so in the northeast. Is it too late to dethatch?? Should i just wait for the spring?
If your lawn is aggressively growing you can dethatch if you have noticed your lawn is slowing down on the growth I would wait till spring. You don’t want to dethatch and not give the lawn the ability to recover.
I’ve always been told to detach In fall at least ? In Maryland…maybe fall and spring
You want to do it when your lawn is actively growing. I will say fall is better only because you will have less weeds to worry about.
Should I dethatch every year or every other year depending on conditions? Thanks
It truly depends on how you manage your lawn. If you never bag your clippings and you have a lawn like a KBG that’s has the rhizomes i would do it yearly. If you have a PRG and bag all your clippings you can get away with every other year or so as necessary. If you start to see your lawn isn’t getting nutrients that should be your tell that you need to give it some attention.
What do you think of the power rake mounter on a push mower?
I haven’t seen this is it a specific type of push mower?
@@treasuredLawn it’s a spring loaded prong mounted on each end of a mower blade which i believe it not sharp. So it just supposed to rake the thatch disturbing it off the ground. Ace hardware Item # 7003239
| Mfr # RS-12
What fertilizer do you recommend for beginners and first time de thatcher?
Lots of good products out there! I like the turf titan products they are easy to use and have a lot of great nutrients for the lawn especially after a dethatch. You can get them with the hose ends bottles and it’s super easy to apply. Straight urea or ammonium sulfate is also a great option as well but you will need to make sure you’re putting down the right rates. The stuff is potent!
How often does one need to fertilize ? Does time of the year matter? Beginner here the more videos I see the more it gets a little overwhelming as far as aerating, pre emergent, reseeding, detaching 😂
@@eduardo13405 I completely understand how it gets overwhelming! I was where you were a few years ago! Each fertilizer will tell you how often applications will last usually they can range anywhere from 4-6 weeks per application. I try my best to time up big projects like seedings, dethatch and aerating with that schedule. You can also do half applications which help in these situations. I use TurfTitan products so stuff like their 6 step bundle is great because it gives you everything you need for all your situations as well as a good calendar on when to apply the products on a regular schedule.
turftitanbrands.com/products/6-step-bundle?sca_ref=3794868.U6QV0L4C14
Now you definitely don’t have to buy these. Anytime you do work like dethatch and aeration the one nutrient you need more than anything is nitrogen so a heavier nitrogen based product applied at the recommended amount will do you solid!
This is great content. Kudos! If you lay down pre-emergent every spring when soil temp avg around 53F when can you dethatch without ruining that layer of pre-emergent?
Once you break that soil level your pre emergent is no longer good so you have to time everything well and plan it out since you can only put that pre emergent down so many times a year. The pre emergent lasts about 3 months so if you wanted you could put down that first application and then 3 months do a dethatch and aeration too if you wanted and do another application of pre emergent after.
My lawn has a lot of weed, such as poa annua. I'm using a regular rake and ripping those weeds out
Poa annua will actually die off in the summer heat if you don’t want to kill yourself trying to remove it
I have another question, sorry. I know you say to cut it first the dethatch, but it is early spring in New England, so do I still need to cut lawn before dethatching ?
I would say in that case no. Lawn is probably still waking up if you haven’t had much growth it won’t be necessary
@@treasuredLawn your the man , thanks
@@vincentprezioso9190 anytime!
Has anyone used detaching for creeping Charlie ? A hand dethatch rake will remove a great deal but is slow and challenging . Thx
I haven’t tried this but I’m not sure if it removes the root which would just cause it to come back. Worth testing out though.
@@treasuredLawn This would be a control measure as we do not want to use insecticides. I have noted with the hand rake approach the majority of CC is removed (I know it will grow back over time) and was questioning anyone's use of a drag dethatcher or power unit. Thx
When to spray for weeds in this process?
If you have weeds and want to spray them I would do it before the dethatch maybe a week or two before this will give time for the weeds to die out and when you dethatch them it will remove those weeds for you. After the dethatch make sure to feed the lawn and even overseed to ensure you have a nice thick lawn where weeds will be unable to penetrate the soil.
Would Turf Builder be good to use after a dethatch?
That’s pretty decent on the nitrogen level I think you would be okay
@@treasuredLawn thanks , is there something you recommend that is better. I am new to this and your video is very helpful
@@vincentprezioso9190 no worries at all! I use turf titan products and I personally think they are better than Scott’s but it’s really up to you!
@@treasuredLawn I appreciate it, I am looking forward to watching all your videos
@@vincentprezioso9190any time! Let me know if there is anything else I can help you with on your lawn!
Is a 12/20/12 a good after fertilizer?
A little high in phosphorus in my opinion. I’d probably want to see more nitrogen than anything else after a dethatch
@@treasuredLawn that's understandable, thanks for the response!
@@pdiddy823 anytime!
I'm in Michigan, my yard is not actively growing yet. Can I dethatch now?
@@mrs.danamcbrearty9373 no this is still far too early to do a dethatch in my opinion. You want it to be actively growing and if you can avoid doing it in the spring I would only because it could give you some weeds you’ll need to deal with after. Likely won’t be bad but if you don’t want to deal with weeds I’d wait till you’re closer to fall if you can.
Psh, I dethatched my 500 Sq ft lawn with a dethatching rake.
Lol if you got that time do it! 🤣🤣
Can we borrow it? I have 12k to do
@@Fishneck10 lol you’ll be out there all month! 🤣🤣
Keep on pumping out these videos to grow the channel. Nice job again with this one. 👍🏻💚🦸🏻♂
Thank you! We got plenty more coming now that fall is coming!