We're Forced to Take the Truck Camper Off! Something Major is Wrong with our Ford Diesel
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- We're forced to take the truck camper off. Something major is wrong with our F350 6.7L Powerstroke diesel. Over the last year we have put 50,000 miles on our truck traveling across the country in our truck camper. We have never taken off the camper, now we have to. We leave Little Rock, Arkansas to head back to our home town of Texarkana. We have an appointment at the Ford dealership for them to evaluate the problem. While waiting we had breakfast at Cafe Lucile we got the call from the dealership and we were not 100 percent sure that the dealerships answer to the problem was correct. So we got a second opinion at Blue Gorilla Garage. We will see what happens.
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Just a word of caution, I would always place some sort of cross member supports under the lower side of the camper when working under it, I have never been the type of person to trust any jacks no matter how new they are.
Spot on! Thank you.
Yeah Buddy!! At 15, marooned on Dad's apt house shingling. On other side of street, my Buddy 4 yrs older had jacked '55 Chevy Coupe up high, removed wheels, used columns of blocks jackin' up four corners, turned up ghetto blaster, & happy as clam. I got bad thought, turned around, yelled, "Hollis, Gramps (his landlord) said he onloaded cinderblocks, you didn't use them did ya? Hollis annoyed as couldn't hear, but creepered back, & yelled, "What..Kafrickin' Blamo!", as car slammed into concrete. All cider blocks granulated, as they tend to do, so Hollis asked, "What did you say?" I responded, "Never mind...it's too late". Hollis still curious, so told 'em' Gramps said he'd unloaded cinderblocks there, & I was afraid you were committin' Sewerside!! I rented apt in Dad's bldg for another 5 years, but it cost me ZERO for Caddy's Maintenance/Repairs, something about, Hollis had said good to be alive!
It made me nervous to watch too.
Now you need a third opinion cuz you told the second shop what the first shop said. You want them to find the problem.
Ditto, better to tell them nothing and see what they find.
Exactly.....
Oh, Lord, I would’ve never done the work for another shop by telling him what the first shop found. That’s just a way that they can under bid and still do unnecessary work. You need a third opinion this time don’t say nothing. With a big expensive truck like that they see you coming and they see dollar signs. Rat bastards.!
Agreed 💯
Pay the diagnostic fees and remain silent be like Sargent Schultz we know nothing
Once a dealer told me my motor needed to be rebuilt, I didn't have the huge amount of $ they qouted, I told them that I would pick it up after work. When I got there they said good news it didn't need rebuilding, we adjusted the valves. I'll always believe they were trying to scam me big time.
Same thing happened to us!
yes it happens I am an ex dealer mechanic, a lot of things like that happened, I have had my own shop for 34 years, no one has ever been cheated on my watch, I no longer take new customers because I have been accused of cheating people just expect it, my regular customers know they can trust me
Most seniors here in Bullhead AZ are always being told a new motor or transmission or front end 🤔 never go to dealer first. And they break something for you to come back. They must meet they're quotas
This is why I own a 1977 Chevy Camper Special.
Easy to fix with simple had tools and the parts are cheap a new fuel pump is $15 and twenty minutes to install.
No Computers or other junk that is not field serviceable.
And why I own a '93 F250 with the IDI diesel. It will pull anything, anywhere that a $100K shiny plastic 2024 truck will-it just won't do it as fast or with the same style...
Hi guys, a shop owner and mechanic here, it’s sounds like the high pressure pump in the fuel system is failing, a well known issue with the Ford Heavy Duty diesel engines, you can thank Ford engineering for that. Of course proper testing has to be done before that can be called. I have read comments suggesting to not tell one shop what another shop found in their diagnostic process, that’s backwards. A good shop is going to have knowledgeable tech staff working there and can quickly discern if the previous diagnostic sounds correct or if it is a waste of time going in that direction. Try doing that when you visit your doctor. Time is money holds true for mechanical service. Try finding a shop that you trust and stick to them, in the long run it will make your life a bit easier. I’m in my 70’s and have traveled the life road you’re on and can say this, it may be expensive to fix this time but you’ll figure it out together, then just move on and count your blessings because you have each other and enjoy your life.
Yeah, Chevy and Dodge used the same pump. We can truly thank Bosch for the issue. They sold American manufacturers a pump that was not compatible with ULSD.
@@registrationhaterRam did use it, but once they knew of the major issues it caused, they recalled every truck and swapped it back to the trusty CP3
That’s not a deisel
My neighbor had this problem three times on his F-350. He fixed the issue The last time by getting it fixed again and did a delete kit and he's had zero problems since
exactly for once its not just a ford problem, bosch is the culprit. But ignorance with a spoon full of incompetence is so annoying. of course a dealership is gonna come in with their quote because their BIG overhead and in this case actually know what the case is because they have been warrantying them. too bad that the other shop blue whatever just cleaned the metal out of the tank but the metal will build back up in time and ruin the entire fuel system and "Steve and Sarah Newlin" will sell it to someone with the issues that they were "too smart" to fix from the get go.
You need to replace that CP4 with an S & S DCR pump. Designed specifiaclly to solve this problem.
Bosch blew it on this pump. The prior CP3 on my 5.9 Cummins is very reliable.
@@davidanderson8469 the CP3 doesn’t grenade like the CP4.2, but it is also not capable of providing the high pressure that Ford utilizes in today’s 6.7. And of course, it is too large to fit in the small space the CP4 fits in.
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Look into CPX pump, it will fit where Ford placed the CP4 pump. Last thing you need in back country is a fuel system failure that destroys all that comes in contact with fuel with metal chards. Total repair cost after cp4 pump failure ranges from 10-15,000.
Worth checking out differentboptions that will work with Ford engines.
Yup
I love how these dealerships want your money to buy the very over priced vehicles but then drag their feet when they need to be repaired. It really makes me ashamed of people in this world.
You think dealerships want to say no to work? I think the problem is labor or the lack of it.
That is the thing. No one in America wants to work. I saw a stat 8 million males age 23-55 aren't; working and are not even looking for work. Who knows, but if someone wants to work there is endless work out there. @@davidfoster3427
Me too
@@davidfoster3427 thats why were glad we bought a nice dodge ram the best dealer ever plus dodge dealers stands with there best ram
One piece of advice I can give is whenever you go to get a second or third opinion(diagnosis) NEVER tell the 2nd or 3rd shop that they are the 2nd or 3rd shop, go in as if they are the 1st
If they know they are the 2nd or 3rd shop they will either say things don't need replaced when they really do JUST so they can underbid the previous diagnosis, OR they will say yes that all needs replaced BUT ALSO this this and this, not EVERY shop will but a majority would
Thats great advice. Also purchase fuel from popular brands so fuel is turned over often and pumps are newer.Best wishes
I’m thinking that when you go to a dealership for an estimate they may enter it into a database that other dealerships will also be able to access along with Ford customer service.
I agree 100%. I hate to say this but it’s hard to find honest shops anymore. Not just mechanics but all trades now. I’ve been an HVAC tech for 24 years now and I was about to walk away from the industry as I was convinced every company had become a commission based company and that causes good techs to become dishonest. I moved out of the big city and up in to a small town with a company that’s had the best reputation I’ve ever seen plus parts great wages and benefits and were hourly. Wish you all luck and take this man’s advice.
i have a 1996 4wd f250 crew cab 349000 miles, change oil every 6k, relube axles every50k, original water pump, oil pump antifreeze, starter and radiator and transmission. REplaced brakes a few times, and tires, and fan belts, alternator and ac compressor. Never had any injection work, i replace alllll filters at 6k miles,,,7.3 liter international engine,,,,,,smiling here,,,20mpg,,15 if pulling 30ft 6500lb gooseneck dual tandem with caterpillar D4 dozer on board,,,,,
When I remove my camper I always lower it down and rest it on wood pallets covered with a sheet of plywood or wafer board. I don't enter the camper until I do, too much stress on the jacks. Keeps it from wobbling. Also I stay away from dealership repairs. I have a diesel mechanic for my F350, and another shop that does all my other repairs. Both came highly recommended and I have NEVER had a problem with either. Several times when I have had a problem and I call the other shop for an apointment they will ask what is it doing and they have told me to try something first and it has taken care of the problem. They are very busy and don't need my buisness that bad for something simple. We are on a first name basis. Good luck on solving your issue, I also worry too much. It pays to have a good mechanic and relationship.
I agree with Kellie, the whole thing at the Ford dealer sounds suspicious. Wishing you all the best and hopefully it turns out to be a less expensive fix.
Truly, rusted metal shaving in the fuel? Not buying it for nothing.
Maybe that’s why it was so easy to get an appointment there at the dealership while the other dealerships were weeks out.
@@kevingok a valid point
@@standingmannequin7911can be true. happened to my brothers Duramax. The CP4 injector pump started to disintegrate. Had metal shaves in the filter and lines. He had to replace the whole fuel system from the cp4 ,injectors to the fuel tank. Look up CP4 failures and you'll see. Cp4 are made for the European market where the diesel has way more lubricant than American diesel.
@@HoustonAstros1111 Very interesting, thx for sharing that info.
If they are referring to the CP4 pump, they are probably right. My brother's Duramax had the same problem. Had to replace all the injectors and the injectors pump (cp4) Best thing to do is the CP3 conversion. Dont go back with a cp4 but if you do dont go with out a disaster prevention kit and keep fuel additives in each fuel up.
What year duramax I have 2017 I freakin love that ruck
PLEASE READ THIS WARNING, IT WILL HELP YOU.....................
My Dad used to work for the company that sinks the big fuel tanks in the ground at the gas stations, he has told me countless times to NEVER EVER fill up your car/truck or what ever your driving when ever the big gas truck is there filling the tanks under ground. He said if you see them doing that just go to the next gas station or if you can't then wait at least an hour before you fill up your rig {What ever your rig is} The reason this is, is because when they fill up those tanks under ground, it stirs up all the sediment that is in the bottom of those tanks, rust, sand & what ever else falls into those tanks when they hook up to the ground valve to fill the tanks.
Maybe this is what has caused you to have your problems, do you fill up when you see the big Gas Tankers in the station filling up the under ground tanks? So once you get your truck fixed remember what I've told you & hopefully you'll read this note...
Dad used to say if you want to have to replace your engine then go ahead & fill up when you see the Gas Tankers filling up the big tanks under ground & you'll have all kinds of problems. I hope this info will help you going forward....
My husband was a mechanic and he said the same thing, do not go to the gas station if a tanker is filling up a gas stations underground holding tanks!
Well that is interesting and I will remember it. Thanks for the tip. I guess one problem is I wouldn’t know if a tanker truck had just been there to know to wait a while but nonetheless I will avoid stations with a tanker filling it.
@@13Voodoobilly69 Wise actions will save you TONS of $$ down the road...
My dad was a mechanic and always said the same thing. Never get gas when the fuel trucks are there.
good tip!
When I hear metal shavings in the fuel system on a Ford diesel my first my first thought is CP4 high-pressure fuel pump failure. If that's the case then the dealer price of 12K is close to normal for a dealer, but a local shop may be able to do it for less and that is where I would go regardless. The reason the CP4 failure is so costly is that have to replace the fuel injectors, fuel rails, fuel pump, fuel lines, tank and filters, and housing because the shavings can be in all of these parts and it's hard to guarantee they can get all of it out. The reason the shavings are in all these parts is that the fuel pump creates more flow and pressure than the engine needs and there is a relief valve that sends that unneeded fuel back to the tank along with any shavings. The CP4 fuel pumps have been doing this for over 10 years in Ford and Ram started using them I think in 2019 on the Cummings. Then CP4 problem started showing up in RAM and they announced a recall to replace the CP4 with a CP3 however, Ford just kept blaming owners for using dirty diesel. But one can't blame Ford for not issuing a recall, RAM only had to recall 250K trucks, can you imagine the cost of having to recall several years' worth of trucks. RAM may also have an additional incentive because, with some of their CP4 failures the fuel pump has seized and broken the CAM gear connection and when that happens there is a good possibility it will also need a new engine. I enjoy your videos and I wish you the best of luck!.
Have good day ❤😍🌹
May be a reason that the dealer you went to had immediate availability of an appointment. In hind-sight, might want to see how the reviews of the dealer look. May reinforce the second opinion. I don't rely on dealerships any longer. Much rather depend on a reputable mechanic with positive feedback from prior customers.
If you're worried about the camper when not on truck in the wind you should get Lock arm stabilizing bars. Just a FYI.
You need to upgrade the injection pump to CP3 change over by S. N. S diesel
Isn’t you truck brand new? It’s not covered on your warranty? I’m so sorry you’re going through this:(. I’m like Kelly and get stressed out/nervous when things go wrong with our truck or camper. I’ll keep my fingers crossed that you hear better news soon! Take care you two!
It’s new to us, we bought it used 2017 model. No warranty
If you're wanting to keep the truck in running condition I would change out the cp4 injector pump with the aftermarket replacement. Also install the fuel protection filter system in case the pump explodes it keeps the shrapnel from the injectors and complete fuel system.
That won’t keep it safe. If the pump fails forces small metal particles through the entire system.
@@a4029849110Try actually reading his comment. Adding a real filter setup, absolutely will provide protection!
They also separate water better and eliminate air from the fuel system.
That pump is on Ram and Ford diesels of the last few yrs. Ram's replacing them free if they blow. My neighbor's died and the Ford dealership had it for a month waiting on parts. The aftermarket one looks like the answer. Extra filtration is mandatory. I've got three filters on my old 2007 Ram 5.9.
The fuel pump on those fords are junk. They will send metal pieces through fuel system and the you have big problems. Like 12000 dollars problems
If the truck had metal shavings throughout the fuel system it wouldn’t run the highway totally normal. All BS. Change the fuel filters every 15K and add a good fuel additive to lubricant the pump and you’re good to go.
The bosch pumps will still fail
Replace the whole fuel system? That’s crazy, why not just replace the defective part in the fuel system. Sounds like a scam to me
I ended up in a revolving door auto overhaul. A bad dealership was replacing everything they could convince me I needed. I reported my concerns to the Southern California dealer association. I then called the western US corporate office and reported them and then called the eastern us corporate office. I wasn’t the only customer to do this and less that a year later the dealership lost their license and closed their door.
Did your CP4 blow out? Sounds like it. Those Bosch units are known to do this, that's why RAM rolled back to CP3 and GM switched to Denso. They also make kits you can install so that if it happens it catches all the injection pump parts before they nuke your entire fuel system again.
Yes. Install the s&s diesel kit
Oh, Crxx! Guy's I wish I was there to Help. I retired from being a tech // Servive Manager in 2020 after 40 years in auto Biz. Scratching my head on this one guys. It would not cost ANYWERE NEAR 8-12k for a new tank, lines, pumps, etc!! Trying to give the dealer the benifit of the doubt here. My problem with dealers now, is, I have seen them ''run off'' the old pro's and hire guys right out of tech school for much less pay...and these poor guys try to diagnos issues , but many times take the ''Shot gun'' course of action and just replace everything because they really dont know what the real issue is. Also ,at a dealership, the service writers and, well everybody is on commision these days, so the more they can sell you.......! Please Please find a private Diesel shop down there where the REAL pro's now work! The dealers will not pay what a GOOD Diesel Tech is worth,the indy's will and yet dealers charge you much more than what a good independant shop will charge in most cases! Blessings guy's!
It does cost 8-12k to replace the entire fuel system when the cp4 pump fails
@@johnhahn8464 you are right John, i did not think they had a cp pump..you would think engineers/managment would have learned some lesson's by now about quality and field testing...guess not or they don't care!
My mom had Ford problem's and different shops took advantage of her because she didn't know .. I wish I was there... It's hard to find a good shop that you can trust to fix your vehicle... If you ever take your vehicle to a shop then you take it to another place for a second opinion don't tell them you had it at a shop before you took it there just so you can see if they say the same thing or way different
Sorry for this bummer situation , something sounds shady , take care , hope you get figured out soon , especially the holidays ,
Cody & Kellie, I hope things go your way. Everything can be fixed, although there are a lot of opinions on how to do it. Most dealers nowadays don't fix things, they just replace them. Just an FYI.... I owned a 2008 Ford F250 that I put 310,000 miles on, before trading it for a new one. I think my wife was more upset than me about trading in the old truck. Everything on it worked, no rattles, still tight, pulled our toy hauler trailer all over the place.... kind of hated to give it up, especially when I saw it driving down the road 1 1/2 years later still in great shape. Best of everything and getting back on the road safely.
Hope you get resolution soon and it’s not a $12K resolution. Vehicle issues are sooooo annoying (and expensive). Best of luck with it.
Dodge doesn't make trucks.
Then who builds the trucks that say Dodge on them?
@@larryhullinger4141 The "new" company is called Ram. Dodge has not made a truck since 2009.
@@55afisheadit's a Chrysler- Daimler company, also known as Dodge Ram
@@outandaboutwithsamiam5034 look up Stlantis. Ram has no connection to Chrysler and Daimer left Chrysler 20 years ago. Time to catch up with things. Lol
Had a similar thing happen to my 2015 F250. They call it “limp mode” which is a mode that’s supposed to save your engine in case of some failure. After a restart mine was fine. No error codes at all. Haven’t had the problem since. Sometimes it’s the mass air flow sensor that fails and causes it. Hoping you get back on the road with minimal expense!!
Well that is a ford issue but won’t admit it. I would get it cleaned up get a new truck. I would go gas there is no saving buying diesel now. You are not that heavy. Get away from the diesels. But that is my opinion. I tow heaver than you get 9.5 mpg. Dodge 2500 5.7. But any brand of gas s ok. 🛠️🇨🇦🛠️🇨🇦👍👍
Shavings in the fuel filter is a known issue with the CP4 fuel pump. A disaster prevention kit should have been installed to catch the shavings before they contaminated the entire fuel system.
I always take my truck 9:24 camper off the truck. And I do it alone! Do not get under the truck camper without extra supports! Watching you crawl underneath it jacked up that high without supports, made me cringe!
Blue Gorilla Garage is awesome. McLarty quoted me $500 to replace some tubing....Blue Gorilla did same job for 1/5th the price ford dealership quoted! Good luck....
God is good. They trying to lie to you. No way the right mechanic will tell you the Truth. Those people are evil trying to screw you guys with this. Find the right mechanic ❤
It’s a CP4 injection pump nightmare. RAM put CP4s in their 2019 and 2020s and recalled all of them to replace them with CP3s.
So Ram have/had the CP4 pumps and recalled and replaced them and Ford and GM has them and they have not recalled them?
Ha, but 7:00 AM is not bright and early ...rookies ;-) ... hahaha Just kidding of course.
Sorry to hear about the trouble with the Ford. A RAM will have other problems and if you look up which brands have the least reliable vehicles - pretty much all Chrysler/Stellantis (?) vehicles start falling apart as soon as the warranty is up or even before then. I had 3 Jeeps and 1 Chrysler and will never ever buy one of the Chrysler/Stelantis vehicles again. I've been a Ford guy since 2003 and never regretted it a single moment. Can't wait for the next video.
My wife and I keep checking TH-cam hoping everything is working out for you guys on y'all's truck I hate vehicle issues it really sucks 😞
My step father always said never tell a mechanic whats wrong with your vehicle. Let him figure it out. And give you a peice. Then get a second opinion and price and dont tell them where you already went.
You have a electrical problem. Somewhere in your truck wiring you have a bad wire. Maybe you have a bad fuse or box as well.
Get a second estimate
Crawling around under that camper with only the four extended legs supporting it was Crazy! Things could have gotten ugly in a hurry !!
I was thinking the same thing.
They are designed to be left in the that condition and are left in that condition on the lots.
Me too. You need more support under there!!!!
You need safer support before crawling under that!
I am a nervous nelly and that was the first thing to come to my mind, but was at a loss for any other way,
Should have kept my 1978 Dodge Snow Commander with the Military Drive Train, it was a beast !!!
I would avoid using an impact on wood screws. The regular drill was fine. An impact will very quickly strip the holes without any warning. And a common problem with truck campers is the wood getting soft even on newer ones you’d be surprised
Wood? Try cardboard.
I purposefully use an impact driver to screw in wood screws to avoid camming out the screw. It makes the job a lot easier, too.
@@K9River That is the correct answer. A drill is for drilling.
Only way to tighten those wood screws is BY HAND. You can tell when thy are going to strip out in the wood.Very easy to strip out with an impact.@@lefttea
Ram had a recall on 2019 and 2020 2500 and 3500 due to the CP4 fuel pump failure. Ford does a case by case warranty claim if you can prove a manufacturing defect which Ford makes it near impossible to prove.
Those Bosch fuel pumps grenade internally from what I heard. It sends shrapnel through the entire fuel system. It goes through the lines to the fuel tank. OMG. This is becoming more common on late model diesels unfortunately.
I would always question the STEALERSHIPS! I pressure test my Jeep. It.s not a complex or expensive tool to own.
Waiting for update.. Saying a Prayer
I would never climb under that camper without safety supports under it, get some wood skids or something to set it on partly,
We’ve had our camper a year and a half and it’s falling apart I’d never recommend the Palomino brand to anyone. Y’all’s seems to be holding up better then ours.. We like our Ram for the truck bed camper 😁😁. We have Screws popping out all over…
Ours is holding up fine. It does take a beating going down the road
Truck problems or not, Kellie could have still cooked a meal! JK...the breakfast looked yummy. Seriously though, I hope it turns out in your favor and as another poster mentioned, I'd now get a 3rd opinion. Like the gal at the 2nd place said, they've got plenty of work waiting in the parking lot and if they want to get Saturday off, are they willing to take on another project? Might get a false negative in that case rather than a false positive from the dealership.
I used to run diesels exclusively. For my personal use I’ve gone back to gas. There is nothing that I do that requires the power level of a modern diesel. We haul around an Arctic Fox on a Ford F350 Dually. It’s gas. Yeah, it revs a little more, gets 9-10 mpg with the camper on, where the diesel got 12. But we don’t have any of those expensive diesel problems to deal with. And before anyone goes and jumps on the “it’s a ford, by what ever else brand”, they all have issues, and expensive ones at that. Unless it’s for a business; where the truck makes money for you, it’s not really worth while. I can buy a lot of Gas for 8-12k. Hopefully, it isn’t the fuel system. Best of luck!!
Ya dodge cummings diesel gate 2.0 😅
This----exactly right
I wouldn't have told the 2nd company what the Ford place said. I would have just told them what the truck had been doing and let them diagnose the problem to see if it matched what Ford said.
Great advice. Always let them do the work
Great video Cody and Kellie
Let me tell you, as a once Chevy, Dodge, and now a Ford owner. Ford is the way to go. You will have way fewer problems with that Ford than you will with the other 2. Ford and Tundra are the way to go. I have an 22 f-150 lariat and my son has an F-250 lariat. It only took me 3 months in a Dodge to realize my mistake. It only took my friend who had bought a 23 2500 ram a month of problems till he traded for a Ford F-250 Super duty. Sorry but I have experienced all 3 and Ford is the way to go. My friends who have experienced Dodge and Ford all say the same. There is a reason why Ford Trucks are the number 1 selling vehicle in the USA. If needed I can provide all the real stats and facts for any Dodge or Chevy guy who thinks I am lying. I know there are a couple mags out there that say different but my friends have compared all 3 since the 17 models. Dodge does have more power in hauling but in EVERY other category Ford won. Chevy couldn't even come close to competing. The closest in all the test was between the Tundra and F-150. Tundra won in only 1 category but was close in all the others. Whatever you do not ever buy a Chevy. There is a reason why they are called pavement princess.
I watch your videos all the time and have a Lance 650/F150 I travel all summer with. Not sure if your Ford has this, but I had a similar problem with the Fuel Pump Driver Module ($32) located above my spare tire that rusted out from the salty roads up north. The placement against the frame rail made it prone to bad road conditions. It was not the fuel pump and not the pressure switch. 2nd/3rd opinions, TH-cam, and Google are sooo much cheaper than trusting one mechanic.
Yes, don’t trust Ford or any dealership. I needed a head light bulb replaced (HID - high intensity diode), Ford was going to charge me $1100 for the light and install. Found out the were going to replace the entire head light Assyrian and housing. This was not needed. I went to Ken Towery and had the install a HID bulb for $130. I bought the bulb at Autozone for $125. So $255 vs $1100. Don’t trust the dealerships! Good thinking.
Hmmm, so that dealer could fit you in right away, while others had waitlists weeks long. That sounds mighty suspicious, like they have a bad reputation and need to start making money. Policy of not speaking directly to the mechanics is not uncommon in big places though. If theres metal in your filter, the filter works. It doesn't mean the whole system needs to be replaces, unless that metal comes from the high pressure fuel pump (if its a common rail diesel) But if that was the case you would have all kinds of pressure warnings.
It's the high pressure pump the cp4. It's very common unfortunately. The fuel filters are before the cp4
Saw you 2 on Shawn James podcast! You were awesome! I've been following him since he laid down the first log of his first cabin. Good luck with the truck! Praying for you!😊😊😊
May want to contact TH-camr
Powerstroke tech talk with Arod
This is quite a common thing for Ford. Usually the fuel pump goes completely out and that’s what puts metal shavings in your filter and they also go through your high pressure fuel rail. That Bosch pump is a huge failure spot for most diesels on the road. Cummins even recommends adding diesel kleen to every tank of fuel so the pump stays lubricated and can prevent this from happening. Or Fors could just be trying to rip you off which they’re also known to do. Best of luck.
One of the big issues with newer diesels
Definitely fuel pump can be cause by low octane fuel and cheap gas
Check your fuel pump.my sierra did the same thing twice and my Silverado did to.Both had bad fuel pumps.
You got it. It's the cp4 everytime
The CP4 is usually an issue for metal in your fuel system, but it would show up after the regular fuel filter because the regular fuel filter would keep it from circulating into the fuel system at the injector pump. Metal trouble usually starts at the pump strainer when this pump begins a catastrophic event and wipes out all of the injectors. If they won't let you talk to a mechanic, report it to a Ford tech rep. There is no other pump that will fit in the engine bay if you have the Scorpion diesel engine. I wouldn't drive it at all until you speak to other Ford mechanics around the area, by phone or other. Good luck from a Ram 3500 Cummins diesel owner--Ford diesel's sound like sewing machines.
The CP4 on Ford diesel trucks has been a problem in the past. The filter after fuel pump I believe was added to the newer model trucks This was done to contain the metal from getting to the rest of your fuel system. A CP4 pump if needed would cost a quarter of quoted price. I believe that you have already taken care of your problem.
A sewing machine sounds better than a noisy Cummins........not sure if that is what you meant. I much prefer my 2020 duramax. The stock cummins is was too slow in traffic and I hate the noise plus am not a dodge ram fan. I also passed on buying a used chevy from the teens because of the CP4 and lower power. The L5P and 10 speed has been a dream and the Chevy rides quite nice, which is a must with my body, but different strokes for different folks.
If it turns out to be a disaster, I'd run to a Ford dealership and trade it in while its still running fine with no codes. You might take a hit on the trade but it sure beats spending 10k on a fuel system.
Watch out for the Boggy Creek Monster!
I LOVE my Super Duty.....I HATE my Super Duty. It is what it is. I am throwing positive Karma your way!
Doesn’t matter what you buy eventually, you’re gonna have problems it’s just a matter of finding the right mechanic to fix it at the right price
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And that is very hard to do. & if you have money to burn on replacing a new engine go for it. We're disabled & only make $1,648.00 a month to live on Yes you read it right $1,648.00 a month & its very hard to make ends meet so any helpfull tips that will save us extra $$ is always a Blessing. & the way the Government is set up we're not allowed to have a savings account or they cut off our health Ins. & our Food Stamps so if you want to fill your tak when a Tanker is there be my guest, my family will pass by & save the extra stress of trying to find $$ for either a new car or to replace the engine & then trying to find an HONEST CHEAP car repair shop....LOL...LOL.... very few & far between almost impossible to do. Cody & Kellie found that out real quick didn't they?
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Those supports are a death trap do not stay under that thing too narrow and dont look well attatched to tje camper
I’m sure by the time we see this vlog, you have the answer about the truck. I sure hope it’s nothing! I’m SO GLAD you got a second opinion! I’m on pins and needles now wondering what the answer was 😳 Love yall 💜
Me too!!! I love my Chevy, but even the Chevy’s aren’t what they used to be. Grrrr.
Yeah you shouldn't be underneath that camper like that.. it's a potential for death
Always get a second opinion cause that's really odd if you just changed the filter! I would of wanted to see the shavings ! Other place sounds like a scam especially if they won't let you talk to the mechanic! Keep your heads high friends ! Definitely call the dealer and ask if they have had anything like this happen cause technically there's nothing except the fuel pump that could do that and it don't cost no $12.000 to fix that .Talks tomorrow! ❤ oh hey so it was the dealership ,sorry , I'd call corporate , best thing to have is a honest friendship with a good mechanic that can be trusted
Have them check the fuel pump, I had a recall on my truck because of bad pumps.
Here’s praying the answer is clear, definitive and a very, VERY SIMPLE fix. Rest well. It’ll all work out.
You can rent them at NAPA or O’Reillys or AutoZone the fuel pressure tester
Kellie an Cody West Coast Canada 🍁 is sending you Love ❤
It really doesn't matter what make of the vehicle now of days they all give problems.
They jus don't make them like they used to miss the good old days...
I heard that was a ford issue injection pump failure sends metal fillings into the engine. Doing lots of damage.
My gmc diesel went into that low power mode one time and turns out mice had built a nest inside the air filter and screwed up the computer regen sequence. Easy fix at the dealer.
On the Hummer battery issue, take a meter and check across each fuse, with everything off you should find one drawing current. Find the circuit it covers and on that circuit, you should find your issue.
Should have gotten the F250 with 7.3 gasser!!! Diesels of today are not the reliable beast they used to be.
Shrapnel in the fuel line probably coming from a failing CP4 fuel pump, ouch! Ford is the only one still running those fuel pumps to my knowledge. Father-in-law was right, recommending a Ram. Best of luck! Great channel BTW...
At 22:00 approx when Kellie was telling the gal at the counter, the previous place wouldn't let them talk to a mechanic, that tells me for sure they were some serious scammers. When all is said and done and your truck is going down the road again, I'd publish the name of the scamming shop for all to see.
Usually does that if the mass air flow sensor or the throttle position sensor are bad I think Cody actually changed the throttle position sensor Dodge have great motors no doubt but they have way more wiring issues cause of the gauge they use in no way should there be metal shavings in the fuel filter if there is some one put it in your tank you could change the tank and the pump your self
I believe they have a Ford F-350.
Doesn't matter it's the cp4 high pressure fuel pump failure that send metal shavings throughout the fuel system. Google it and you'll see
No Doge. We got the Chevy Silverado. We did not go with a Doge because of the warranty. Please look into it. Love from Indiana.
Remember a while back I commented and said your maintenance schedule was not good? Fuel filters every 10k and you avoid this problem. P0093 is low pressure fuel system code. Replace the low pressure pump, clean the tank, flush the lines and replace the high pressure pump and left hand fuel rail. No need to replace the injectors unless it’s DEF contamination or lots of metal. All that stuff you changed out was not the problem. Lots of times the metal in the fuel is very hard to see and you need a flashlight to really see it.
The Ford diesel is an awesome truck!!!! Some have problems but, don’t think that the Ram and the Chevy don’t have problems. I had a 2017 Ram 3500 diesel with a truck camper on it. The truck had so many problems that I only had it 8 months before switching to a 2018 Ford diesel. Unfortunately, the problems that all brands of late model diesel trucks can have can be very expensive. Most people don’t have problems when taken care of. I do recommend you guys install a CP4 fuel pump disaster prevention kit on your truck either way. That way if your fuel pump does go south, it doesn’t trash your whole fuel system. Change your oil every 5000 miles and your fuel filter every 10,000 miles! Many people recommend also running a fuel additive like Hot Shots Secret or the Ford Motorcraft additive. Hoping you guys come out safely and to the good with the truck.
Do everything this guy mentioned. I do
Cody made me nervous when he was working under the camper. Praying for you for no major issue with the truck.
Me too. Those legs look too skinny.
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Yeah, me too! You can't be too careful.
Actually, depending on where you were driving when malfunction occurred, (Rocky Mountains¿) it may be MAP (Manifold Absolute Pressure) sensor may cause the fault.
Diving westward from Denver, went over LARGE mountain (through Eisenhower Pass) w no problem.... to California, at sea level. Coming back up that same mountain, there were problems w power. After consult w mechanic, was informed that MAP sensor had to be re-set.... meaning the pickup (a Ford w almost a million miles) should be stopped, shut off for awhile, and upon restart, the MAP sensor would be happily reset.☺️
A cliffhanger!!! 😂 Hope that repair is not major. It sure doesn’t sound like metal shavings destroying the entire fuel system.
Great seeing your H3 again!!
Should be under warranty, both manufacturer, and Federal emissions warranty
Anyone with a 6.7 MUST at least install a fuel filter AFTER the pump. If the CP4 fails the filter will catch the shavings before destroying your fuel rails, etc. The 2 filters prior to the pump will not catch the shavings if/when the pump fails. Also... you MUST add lubrication to every tank of fuel to lubricate the CP4 pump. Lastly... like others have stated; there is a good aftermarket pump to replace the CP4 pump.
Like one viewer already stated, it doesn't matter what you buy, find a good mechanic, one you can trust!! I'm partial to Dodge.
I do not trust the dealers, period!!
Never go to a stealership for repairs.
I found your problem, FORD!
The way it works these days is that a mechanic shop especially dealers want to replace a whole system and all of its parts instead of only replacing the one bad part. The good side of this is that is almost always fixes the problem. The bad is that it costs the customer a lot more than might be necessary.
omg guys , you just bought that truck , you should not have any kind of those problems in that BRAND NEW TRUCK , from experience I can tell you , thats ridiculous thats a brand new truck , problems like that should happen after you hit 200, 000 miles on her ,
So brand new is 140k miles?
Cody and Kelly, after watching the entire video I do understand your position with your truck and the repairs that need to be done, my husband is a mechanic. He works on diesels and gasoline engines and he retired as a big truck diesel mechanic, my prayer is that you’ll find the answer and it won’t cost you that much money, and, you’ll be able to put the camper back on Pearl and continue on your journey, just know that people are praying for you and thinking about you and sending you the good vibes that you need. Y’all are so loved and I enjoy your videos so much.
I have driven all three diesel dually trucks Ford ,Chevyand Dodge to pull a 42ft offshore boat and guess which truck pulled the boat with no problem or issues a FORD the other two couldn't compare .....
Prayers for you about all this.
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as a diesel engine specialist for the last 35 years. if what they say is true, then the high pressure lift pump has gone bad. that would explain the supposed metal shavings in the fuel filter. this has been an issue with ford and chevy duramax the last few years because of the sulfur being taken out of diesel fuel. sulfur acts as a lubricant for the system.
it has been my experience that when this happens the engine stops running all together. it’s not an intermittent issue. with what you have experienced, especially changing the filters like you have, it leads me to believe there is, was, another issue. as i said before, when the high pressure pump quits, it’s not going to work again by changing the filters. it’s done. you were wise to get another opinion.
Would adding an aftermarket lubricity product combat that problem? During my ownership of my 2000 VW Jetta turbo diesel is when the sulfur content in fuel in Illinois (and perhaps nationally) was drastically reduced. I began adding some Power Service Diesel Fuel Supplement (anti-gel but also lubricity improver) at each fill-up as a preventative. Don't know if this was useful or not but I drove that car for 10 yers and almost 200K without a fuel system related problem.
Ford has a problem with the 6.7 diesel high pressure injection pump getting metal in fuel system. Some diesel shop put in the previous generation pump
Also there’s a filter system that can be added to eliminate metal getting to injectors
OH NO, so sorry to hear that yall! I know vehicle issues always stress me out, and can be scary. Sending good vibes your way, in hopes that it's just something minor. Stay positive!
I have a feeling the second opinion is a great idea. You are too smart for that. Dealerships are laaaaaaame. Love the videos!!!!
This is why I bought a 17' f250 with the 6.2 gas engine. Rarely tow a 5k lb travel trailer, otherwise driving empty. The new 7.3 gas looks tempting although I'm hearing of the cam lobes gouging from oil starvation during long idling. Not all of them though, guess it depends on your driving style. Ford should twin turbo the 6.2 which is actually a 6.8 now.
I would never ever buy a modern diesel pick up truck. They are overated garbage.
The 6.8 has nothing to do with the 6.2 and new diesels are amazing but must be maintained meticulously. Why do people make things up?
There’s no #Warranty left that should be covered under warranty if you have some. Plus if I was going to spend that kind of money I’d treat the damn thing and get rid of it. Let it be their problem.