They want you to spend money, it's clear. The nerf to the economy now made grinding even worse and it's very intentional as to why. After all, they did just release a bunch of Rank 7 premiums along with the Christmas sale being right around the corner.
I wanna say a really and heartfelt thank you to you Tims, It may not seem much but these videos are so helpfull and yet entertaining to see, and the best part is your demeanor. Keep going, this is a top tier channel on youtube. So Thank you again!
Outstanding video about the MiG-29. Putting history about the aircraft and it's real life purpose at the beginning, makes this review above and beyond.
It's unable to pull the nose around at low airspeeds and the AoA is lacking. Currently the FM is very underperforming and I am working on bug reports to fix it. The F-16 was also irrationally nerfed into the ground before introduction to live. I'd recommend covering these if they're fixed after the new years.
@Big Matthews that doesn't really matter as the tornado version in games is the ground strike version so you shouldn't really be using it in air battles anyway il use the german tornado in ground rb but il stick with the harrier gr7 for UK
@@bigmatthews666 Tornado see's F-14 behind it and performs a Max G break into the F-14, F-14 driver looks at the looooong lazy turn and stays firmly planted behind the Tornado's until the Tornado runs out of gas. Yeah, according to the pilots, they did not even bother to fight, they'd just pick out a target that was already involved in a fight, light the cans and lock up the target and lob their Fox 1's into the furball and slash through the fight.
I believe this is actually the Mig29A 9-13. It's a bit confusing, but the first Fatback 9-13 carried more fuel, more ordnance and a jammer. the 9-13S is the Mig29S, with a new radar and other upgrades.
Its kindof a chopped up hybrid because of the nerfs - it was SUPPOSED to be the 9-13S, so thats what I've called it for simplicity's sake. (It'll likely get restored fully somtime in a future patch)
@@TimsVariety Are you sure it's supposed to be the 9-13S? As ar as i'm aware one of the primary differences between the normal 9-13 fatback and the S is the upgraded N019M radar (compared to the older N019) that supports the R77 right?
@@rm2569 Correct. The N019M has increased ECM resistance, is more reliable, and enables upgraded MiG-29s to engage two targets simultaneously with the R-77.
Exactly, this isn't the S. It's been a common mistake due to incorrect info in the english wiki of the Mig-29. The 9-13S (the actual S) had many differences, including the new radar, new R-77, R-27ER and R-73M missiles, revised flight control systems allowing higher AoA and a bit more ground ordinance, enabling the middle wing pylons for FAB-500 bombs.
I appreciate the information put out by Tim's variety as I have just moved into the top tier jet arena, and I want to get better and know my planes. I have to say that he does more informing on the plane itself than just making a videos where he went out and got airkills, I like that, its teaching you how to use the plane, not showing off.
Also, shameless plug, the meta/plane has changed a bit over the last year, may want to check out my vid on the Mig-29G - its in the current meta, and its a VERY similar aircraft.
lol Don't worry about it, thats why even as a "noob" jet pilot tier 7 and 8 Br is not as complicated as I thought it would be, but perhaps because I watch Tim's Variety videos. Warthunder is a hobby of mine I hate to admit, but I dont like to lose and your videos have been very instructional and informative, intellectually stimulating. Good Hunting when you next fly.@@TimsVariety
his voice makes me feel like I'm watching an episode of Wings or something. Just found this channel today to learn a little more about radar in wt, had no idea about ir locking! Love the insane effort that's gotta go into this level of quality!
7:35 - This guy is from Russian Empire =RuEmp= , one of this game's most famous Russian regiments, and maybe the bigger. A guy from it helped me a lot with flight. He is very intellectual and educated.
thank you, this is the exact type of review i was looking for. other reviews had too much filler talk that didn't need to be said, you said exactly what needed to be said and didnt waste my time. thank you.
@@TheLastApplePie just use 1 analog axis and then you have a range from WEP to your maximum posioton (also WEP) That gives you your many afterburner postitions
As I said in chat during the Golan Heights match where you were flying with VR - SOLID videos. I love all the real-life historical and technical detail you include when reviewing WT vehicles. Keep up the great work, and I hope to see you in the skies again soon! (though you won't get so lucky as to avoid my missiles next time!)
I was testing both the f16 and mig29 out and if you press your key bind for switch cockpit sight in the cockpit view for the mig29 you get the funnel. This also works if you lock something in the f16 it gives you a lead Indication.
Those Gaijin's thrust parameters: 3920/6820 kgf. And real RD-33: 5040/8340. Welcome to the second iteration of dev server, folks)) p.s. S version is based on 9-13, but they is not the same, if i'm correct. S version have advanced radar and optic complex RLPK-29S for extended R-27RE/TE, R-77 use, underwing fuel tanks 1150L (older 29 versions: underfuselage 1500L and underwing on 800L) for example. Just Gaijin's magic i guess.
worth noting that while underperforming the RD-33 produces around 7500 kgf mounted on the aircraft not 8340 the 8340 figure is for static thrust on a test bench mounted to an airframe with intake and all its 7500 kgf its not the first time a bug report has been made using static engine thrust when it should be using mounted engine thrust thus the bug report is wrong
@@ТолянЖига east german technical manual for mig-29 9.12 correction its 8000 at complete standstill decreasing slowly to 7700 at mach 0.46 and increasing thereafter up to 11000 at mach 1.2 complete engine operational envelope can be found here on page 11 www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/dcc/DCS%20FM%20principles%20plus%20MiG-29%20P-47%20F-16.pdf if you dont have the technical manual for the mig 29
man your reviews are something else, i felt the immersion from the beginning, i felt like a soviet engineer trying to build this thing, the oculus shots are matching dcs basically, amazing.
Thank's for the great review. A little note: The difference between the 29S and A seem a bit more complex than the difference between the 9-13 and 9-12 Variant. The 9-12 can actually be an S and an A, the same goes for the 9-13. I honestly don't have it fully figured out either, I only know that it is not as simple as I thought at first. If I do find out more, I will reply to this comment.
They tried to add the 9-13S, nerfed it, and gave us a weird chopped up hybrid - but I've just called it the 9-13 for simplicity. It'll probably get buffed back to that standard completely at some point.
@@TimsVariety What a mess :D Maybe the 29A is supposed to be a premium later... it is somewhat strange to leave it out on introduction. However... I do have my suspicion that the M will actually be a premium later on, with the SMT being a TT model. Hopefully they don't butcher those as hardly on arrival.
@@TimsVariety Not correct, the 9-13 configuration is real and isn't a hybrid. The 9-13 is a 9-12 with larger internal fuel tanks and updated EW equipment. Ukraine correctly operates basically a whole fleet of 9-13s. The 9-13S is a later, and I believe post-USSR, variant that is vastly updated.
@@supersarge24 No - I wasn't saying that the real plane was a hybrid, I was saying that what they put in the game is, with features/aspects of multiple versions (seemingly due to nerfs after the devserver). This isn't the first time they've done this, and their representation of a couple of the A-4 skyhawks, and the Q-5 family, are prime examples.
Re HMD, in the real MiG-29 the pilot's helmet had an analog sight, mounted to the right side of his helmet. The pilot would drop that over his eye and it would have a transparent square of plastic with a ring sight in it. He'd move that over the bandit, press a button on the stick to lock up the target, squeeze the launch authorize button and away the missile goes. It was crude, just a step above the AH-1 Cobra gunner helmet sights, but it worked. Then came the SU-27's system and the more advanced Israeli systems followed by the US and others. Funny enough the A-10C and the F-16C have the same helmet mounted display and if the F-14D and stayed it would have had the same display.
Another Thing to mention IS the 30mm. After so many jets With the waterpistol this cannon is a delight to See, extremely powerful and better trajectory imo
The US Navy had helmet mounted targeting systems in service as early as the late 60s, way before south africa did. Pretty much all USN phantoms had access to em. The technology was fairly well understood in the west, they just tended to prioritize radar slaving, given how advanced their radar sets were.
The primary sources I have indicated that the South Africans introduced them operationally in 1966, specifically mentioning that it was the first system in actual service rather than just testing prototypes or anything. The US Navy''s VTAS wasn't introduced until 1969 in the F-4J (which now has it in game, by the way). What you're probably thinking of was a system from Hughes that used a small CRT reflector as a makeshift HUD, but it didn't provide any weapons targeting functions.
@@TimsVariety fack, I didn't know the SA had it by the mid 60s, I was pretty sure it was a mid 70s kinda deal. VTAS is definitely what I had in mind. I just take a slight issue with the narrativization of the MiG-29's story, sure it was in line with what was being done elsewhere, but by no means was the helmet mounted targeting system groundbreaking for the time. I liked the vid, even if the in cockpit part could've benefitted from a non-vr section to demonstrate the system working as intended!
A tip To make it eat less fuel Use first stage afterburner instead of second stage You won't accelerate above mach 1.10 anytime soon but it won't eat your entire fuel load
Uh, I hate to be that guy, but the 9.13 is not the S model per say. It just has slightly more fuel in the spine and a jammer system. Just a regular Fulcrum C instead. It merely provided the basis upon which the 9.13S was made from with improved radar and avionics changes to facilitate R-27ER/T and R-77 use among other things. That said, most informative. The Fulcrum is just such a beautiful jet to behold.
Its kindof a chopped up hybrid because of the nerfs - it was SUPPOSED to be the 9-13S, so thats what I've called it for simplicity's sake. (It'll likely get restored fully somtime in a future patch)
@@TimsVariety Huh, my limited research on what Gaijin said just says it's a plain 9.13 Fulcrum-C. Not 9.13S. I must have missed something then. Considering how few 9.13S's were made compared to the C model I would have thought it would be made a Premium instead.
"It will allow for sloppier performances, you decide if this is a good or bad thing" It definitely is a good thing imo. Anyone who disagrees ask yourself this, what's the point on continuing to introduce modern vehicles if they don't provide upgrades and ease of use life upgrades? Modern military equipment is easier to use than the previous equipment, accessibility improvements were done to make the technology easier to use and more human friendly. The doctorine most countries realised, was a more comfortable pilot or crew meant a better performing crew. Now that being said it appears that the mig 29 will still perform better if you never make a mistake and fly it like a champ, the difference is there's more of a margin for error. I just think it's important to accept this sooner rather than later, before the 5th gen jets with thrust vectoring arrive.
everyone is talking about AMRAAM capable F-16s, but no one mentioned that the MiG-29 we got, is R-77 capable. also the fact that we didn't get the 29A and jumped to 29S, gives me thoughts of a premium that I hope we don't get any time soon
Think it will, if anything its underperforming rather then over. (And its still really good. I’ve seen some people hate on it in the game chat but its as far as I can tell by far the best plane in the game. Though I haven’t tried the mig29) Also the aim7M right now I don’t think is any different from the aim7F but should be somewhat better as well so we might still get significant upgrades. Either later or when more gen 4 fighters are introduced. (My guess is that the full performance would be to unbalanced right now. Instead of more decompression gaijin is just nerfing the planes. Don’t fully agree with this but it does work somewhat)
@@xanderwusky I totaly agree that its a great plane. People complaining very often dont know how to play the game - its great plane and Im happy that this time I was acctually able to try it at "first day" when It came out :D
Hey Tim ! Will you make a review of the mirage 2000D and show the custom loadouts on it pls, i really would like to know if it can destroy entirely a base with a specific bomb loadout. Ty very much love your vids as always
@@TimsVariety yup its this one :) I really want to know if it can destroy a base by itself because its so unsatisfying when the base still has hp after you bomb it lol
There's a bug on console that when you free look while spooling a missile like the IR missiles, it does not following where you look like it should and how you do on PC. Bit frustrating I am not able to use the helmet mount display on my IR missiles and have to use the mouse aim to aim it.
man idk if im the only one but the radar loses lock on this jet when i wanna use my R27R !? i just don’t understand how the radar on this thing works, it was really simple on the MLD, but this i get a lock and then fire just to see the lock go away and the missile hit nothing but air !!
How about it's cannon sight: on air target?? Idk how to use it (if you set up the sight mode control, you can go through standard, cannon on ground (ballistics computer), and cannon on air target (which is new). These all refer to the in cockpit sight)
irl the hms is even better, it slave the irst or radar, and then the radar or the irst enslave the missile. Once the target is lock the red circle stop following your head but follow the locked plane. thanks to that you can easly keep the position of your enemy in a dogfight.
I mentioned in reply to a few other comments - gaijin seems to have changed what version its supposed to be mid-development, so I had to pick one for simplicity since its kindof mismatched to either subversions.
As I was thinking, this doesnt really shift the meta. Mig29 should have been introduced together with the f-14, that still remains the most capable aircraft in the american tech tree and arguably in the game. But now at least it has several worthy opponents. I'd like to see also france and sweden get better BVR missiles in the future to stop the gap between them and the usa.
@Tim Variety, I don’t agree with you regarding the mig 29 being a competitive jet, few days ago , the devs released a report stating the fact that, the 29 is performing way worse than the f16, so I do not agree with you regarding the 29 as it can’t BVR and can’t BVM.
Grinded for 12 hours straight to get this thing and was it worth it? Probably not. Is it fun? Definitely. I certainly feel like its underperforming significantly to how it should but at this point I think everything in WarThunder is
I felt the mig 29s handling is really inconsistent even now, like it's maneurability is a 50/50 it's either a brick for no reason or pulls so hard you g lock
@@TimsVariety no, I didn't mean like always, just for this videos, I think it would show us better the info and what you talk about Of course you don't have to, is just my opinion
Longer lance for jousting. I just tested it out a couple times, its big asset in WT matches seems to be that its crazy fast (rather than its long range).
Is there a way to just buy the plane? I am new and I really don't want to play war thunder with ww1 and ww2 era planes. The only thing I like is 4 gen jets. I love DCS but sometimes I just want a simple arcade fights. War thunder seems nice, but I don't want to grind old planes...
Sadly there is no way to just skip forward and buy the new mig29 if u honestly WANT to spend money get a premium id recommend the mig21 r13-300 and from there grind out the jets
@@zengod406 nah, i really dont enjoy the game that way. Especially since its a huge grind of something i dont enjoy. Its fine. Thank you for your answer.
@@realname6781 I like the phantom so the EJ kai is fine. but germany has jack shit for air to air and has for a while i dont regret going german, i just hate being neglected
@@aurelliadarkwater1136 I've been having better luck flying the MLA then the EJ Kai. Both are fine, but I can't say I'm not jealous of other nations. With that being said, I'm probably going to start grinding the Italian tree since it seems to be the fastest way to get an F-16.
Mig29 9.13 isn't mig29s. Mig 29s is 9.13s, even some 9.12 were retrofitted to 9.12s. Mig29s can use R77 and has several visual differences to the one in game.
Crazy how all these new gen 4s still dont get stock flares
They want you to spend money, it's clear. The nerf to the economy now made grinding even worse and it's very intentional as to why.
After all, they did just release a bunch of Rank 7 premiums along with the Christmas sale being right around the corner.
That would make sense
No jet gets stock flares though, do they? Its always been a mod you need need research. Like fpe etc.
How about stock G suits?
@@rickdubbinkhow about fuel require silver lion to resupply 😂
I wanna say a really and heartfelt thank you to you Tims, It may not seem much but these videos are so helpfull and yet entertaining to see, and the best part is your demeanor. Keep going, this is a top tier channel on youtube. So Thank you again!
Outstanding video about the MiG-29. Putting history about the aircraft and it's real life purpose at the beginning, makes this review above and beyond.
it's wrong history...
11:10 r-60 casually stopping by to say hello
It just flew past to give me a high five on its way to go do something else.
You absolute madlad going into Air RB in cockpit view with VR.
ARB is intense in VR, I love it but the headset drives me nauseous after about half an hour.
It's unable to pull the nose around at low airspeeds and the AoA is lacking. Currently the FM is very underperforming and I am working on bug reports to fix it. The F-16 was also irrationally nerfed into the ground before introduction to live. I'd recommend covering these if they're fixed after the new years.
Planning on it
No it needed to be nerfed. All the UK and Germany get is a Tornado, what a Joke
@Big Matthews that doesn't really matter as the tornado version in games is the ground strike version so you shouldn't really be using it in air battles anyway il use the german tornado in ground rb but il stick with the harrier gr7 for UK
@@bigmatthews666 Tornado see's F-14 behind it and performs a Max G break into the F-14, F-14 driver looks at the looooong lazy turn and stays firmly planted behind the Tornado's until the Tornado runs out of gas. Yeah, according to the pilots, they did not even bother to fight, they'd just pick out a target that was already involved in a fight, light the cans and lock up the target and lob their Fox 1's into the furball and slash through the fight.
@@bigmatthews666 The Tornado GR.1 got nerfed into the ground though...
I believe this is actually the Mig29A 9-13. It's a bit confusing, but the first Fatback 9-13 carried more fuel, more ordnance and a jammer. the 9-13S is the Mig29S, with a new radar and other upgrades.
Its kindof a chopped up hybrid because of the nerfs - it was SUPPOSED to be the 9-13S, so thats what I've called it for simplicity's sake. (It'll likely get restored fully somtime in a future patch)
@@TimsVariety Are you sure it's supposed to be the 9-13S? As ar as i'm aware one of the primary differences between the normal 9-13 fatback and the S is the upgraded N019M radar (compared to the older N019) that supports the R77 right?
@@rm2569 Correct. The N019M has increased ECM resistance, is more reliable, and enables upgraded MiG-29s to engage two targets simultaneously with the R-77.
Exactly, this isn't the S. It's been a common mistake due to incorrect info in the english wiki of the Mig-29. The 9-13S (the actual S) had many differences, including the new radar, new R-77, R-27ER and R-73M missiles, revised flight control systems allowing higher AoA and a bit more ground ordinance, enabling the middle wing pylons for FAB-500 bombs.
Babe wake up, new Tim video
I appreciate the information put out by Tim's variety as I have just moved into the top tier jet arena, and I want to get better and know my planes. I have to say that he does more informing on the plane itself than just making a videos where he went out and got airkills, I like that, its teaching you how to use the plane, not showing off.
Sadly the "showing off and talking about how stupid the other guy was for turning the wrong way" vids get about 20x the views that mine do. Go figure.
Also, shameless plug, the meta/plane has changed a bit over the last year, may want to check out my vid on the Mig-29G - its in the current meta, and its a VERY similar aircraft.
lol Don't worry about it, thats why even as a "noob" jet pilot tier 7 and 8 Br is not as complicated as I thought it would be, but perhaps because I watch Tim's Variety videos. Warthunder is a hobby of mine I hate to admit, but I dont like to lose and your videos have been very instructional and informative, intellectually stimulating. Good Hunting when you next fly.@@TimsVariety
his voice makes me feel like I'm watching an episode of Wings or something. Just found this channel today to learn a little more about radar in wt, had no idea about ir locking! Love the insane effort that's gotta go into this level of quality!
If you're new - you should check out my channel playlists. There is an enormous amount of binge-able WT and non-WT content. ;-)
7:35 - This guy is from Russian Empire =RuEmp= , one of this game's most famous Russian regiments, and maybe the bigger. A guy from it helped me a lot with flight. He is very intellectual and educated.
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Cristiano vc por aqui
Excellent and much awaited review. Thank you.
Tim, that VR footage segment is amazing! I would *love* to watch a series of as-you-fly narrated VR aircraft RB videos from you.
I would prefere SB for that
The problem is with my head flying around all over the place, the mic would cut out constantly. I'd have to get a new audio setup for that.
thank you, this is the exact type of review i was looking for. other reviews had too much filler talk that didn't need to be said, you said exactly what needed to be said and didnt waste my time. thank you.
Thank you for the video. You are very dependable source of accurate info and I felt I should write it so you can see it.
MiG-29 here I come
As always, perfect video of yours Tim! Continue onwards, I did get to hit people with my gun since the game where I came across you.
The HMD works like a charm with TrackIR. The way it behaves for VR in your video is clearly not as intended.
I love these reviews for how objective it is!
You’re one of the best warthunder content creators
Love these reviews man
10:20 you can also use the 2-stage afterburner mouse wheel trick to lower fuel consumption
Or the "infinite" one with a theottle axis
@@emmata98 ayoo share me your secret bro
@@TheLastApplePie just use 1 analog axis and then you have a range from WEP to your maximum posioton (also WEP)
That gives you your many afterburner postitions
Meanwhile my mousewheel is broken oof... I cant even apply decals anymore
I am gunning for mig29 so your vid kinda helps me to understand what I am getting into, thanks
brilliant video! You narrate excellently. The history section at the beginning was fascinating
I hope we ll see a 2000D review. Clearly the best plane of the update for cas player
You will
I played with you yesterday mate, keep it on!
As I said in chat during the Golan Heights match where you were flying with VR - SOLID videos. I love all the real-life historical and technical detail you include when reviewing WT vehicles. Keep up the great work, and I hope to see you in the skies again soon! (though you won't get so lucky as to avoid my missiles next time!)
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9:13 he said it again 😂 we love you man
I was testing both the f16 and mig29 out and if you press your key bind for switch cockpit sight in the cockpit view for the mig29 you get the funnel. This also works if you lock something in the f16 it gives you a lead Indication.
I wonder when the F16 will get the funnel. I know the C model uses it, but not sure when it originally got it. I think I like the funnel more
what exactly is the funnel? never heard the term myself before
Great video as always Tim!
Saw you flying it earlier today, wasn't a good match for footage (for either of us lol) but it was still nice to see you running around in game
Those Gaijin's thrust parameters: 3920/6820 kgf.
And real RD-33: 5040/8340.
Welcome to the second iteration of dev server, folks))
p.s. S version is based on 9-13, but they is not the same, if i'm correct. S version have advanced radar and optic complex RLPK-29S for extended R-27RE/TE, R-77 use, underwing fuel tanks 1150L (older 29 versions: underfuselage 1500L and underwing on 800L) for example. Just Gaijin's magic i guess.
Do you have any numbers for the actual thrust total for both engines in lbs. or kg.?
worth noting that while underperforming the RD-33 produces around 7500 kgf mounted on the aircraft not 8340
the 8340 figure is for static thrust on a test bench
mounted to an airframe with intake and all its 7500 kgf
its not the first time a bug report has been made using static engine thrust when it should be using mounted engine thrust
thus the bug report is wrong
It can use the R-27ET and R-27ER
@@GlowingSpamraam 7500kgf from what source?
Buy the way, how about RD-33K:
on 29M version 8800kgf and 9400kgf (extraforsage mode) on 29K version?
@@ТолянЖига east german technical manual for mig-29 9.12
correction its 8000 at complete standstill decreasing slowly to 7700 at mach 0.46 and increasing thereafter up to 11000 at mach 1.2
complete engine operational envelope can be found here on page 11
www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/dcc/DCS%20FM%20principles%20plus%20MiG-29%20P-47%20F-16.pdf
if you dont have the technical manual for the mig 29
It's nice to see some commentary on the new plane that isn't from a complaintuber
man your reviews are something else, i felt the immersion from the beginning, i felt like a soviet engineer trying to build this thing, the oculus shots are matching dcs basically, amazing.
I love the fact that American players who complained about the R-73 (which was balanced in the first dev) are now quiet because they got 2 F-16s
Ong
i saw you in game!! love your videos man theyre amazing
Thank's for the great review. A little note: The difference between the 29S and A seem a bit more complex than the difference between the 9-13 and 9-12 Variant. The 9-12 can actually be an S and an A, the same goes for the 9-13. I honestly don't have it fully figured out either, I only know that it is not as simple as I thought at first. If I do find out more, I will reply to this comment.
They tried to add the 9-13S, nerfed it, and gave us a weird chopped up hybrid - but I've just called it the 9-13 for simplicity.
It'll probably get buffed back to that standard completely at some point.
@@TimsVariety What a mess :D
Maybe the 29A is supposed to be a premium later... it is somewhat strange to leave it out on introduction. However... I do have my suspicion that the M will actually be a premium later on, with the SMT being a TT model. Hopefully they don't butcher those as hardly on arrival.
@@TimsVariety Not correct, the 9-13 configuration is real and isn't a hybrid. The 9-13 is a 9-12 with larger internal fuel tanks and updated EW equipment. Ukraine correctly operates basically a whole fleet of 9-13s. The 9-13S is a later, and I believe post-USSR, variant that is vastly updated.
@@supersarge24 No - I wasn't saying that the real plane was a hybrid, I was saying that what they put in the game is, with features/aspects of multiple versions (seemingly due to nerfs after the devserver).
This isn't the first time they've done this, and their representation of a couple of the A-4 skyhawks, and the Q-5 family, are prime examples.
@@TimsVariety My bad, but what about this variant is a hybrid? I don't know any misplaced features.
Re HMD, in the real MiG-29 the pilot's helmet had an analog sight, mounted to the right side of his helmet. The pilot would drop that over his eye and it would have a transparent square of plastic with a ring sight in it. He'd move that over the bandit, press a button on the stick to lock up the target, squeeze the launch authorize button and away the missile goes. It was crude, just a step above the AH-1 Cobra gunner helmet sights, but it worked. Then came the SU-27's system and the more advanced Israeli systems followed by the US and others. Funny enough the A-10C and the F-16C have the same helmet mounted display and if the F-14D and stayed it would have had the same display.
Another Thing to mention IS the 30mm. After so many jets With the waterpistol this cannon is a delight to See, extremely powerful and better trajectory imo
I saw u in a game today and that made my day
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The HMD was used in the atlas cheetah and the mirage AZ in South Africa.
Can't wait for the next vid!
The US Navy had helmet mounted targeting systems in service as early as the late 60s, way before south africa did. Pretty much all USN phantoms had access to em.
The technology was fairly well understood in the west, they just tended to prioritize radar slaving, given how advanced their radar sets were.
The primary sources I have indicated that the South Africans introduced them operationally in 1966, specifically mentioning that it was the first system in actual service rather than just testing prototypes or anything. The US Navy''s VTAS wasn't introduced until 1969 in the F-4J (which now has it in game, by the way). What you're probably thinking of was a system from Hughes that used a small CRT reflector as a makeshift HUD, but it didn't provide any weapons targeting functions.
@@TimsVariety fack, I didn't know the SA had it by the mid 60s, I was pretty sure it was a mid 70s kinda deal. VTAS is definitely what I had in mind.
I just take a slight issue with the narrativization of the MiG-29's story, sure it was in line with what was being done elsewhere, but by no means was the helmet mounted targeting system groundbreaking for the time.
I liked the vid, even if the in cockpit part could've benefitted from a non-vr section to demonstrate the system working as intended!
Wow so great review that I have subscribed. Great job.
Great video as always!
A tip
To make it eat less fuel
Use first stage afterburner instead of second stage
You won't accelerate above mach 1.10 anytime soon but it won't eat your entire fuel load
14:25 since we still can't control hud brightness witch is a feature well used before there were huds
Uh, I hate to be that guy, but the 9.13 is not the S model per say. It just has slightly more fuel in the spine and a jammer system. Just a regular Fulcrum C instead.
It merely provided the basis upon which the 9.13S was made from with improved radar and avionics changes to facilitate R-27ER/T and R-77 use among other things.
That said, most informative. The Fulcrum is just such a beautiful jet to behold.
Its kindof a chopped up hybrid because of the nerfs - it was SUPPOSED to be the 9-13S, so thats what I've called it for simplicity's sake. (It'll likely get restored fully somtime in a future patch)
@@TimsVariety Huh, my limited research on what Gaijin said just says it's a plain 9.13 Fulcrum-C. Not 9.13S. I must have missed something then. Considering how few 9.13S's were made compared to the C model I would have thought it would be made a Premium instead.
No one going to talk about the missile that almost hits him at 11:09? 😅
I slapped it high-five as it went by.
I already wondered to find no comment about it :D
Very nice missile. Just wanted to say hi.
The 29 performs very well in sim, I have been flying it all day and only got shot down a couple times
F16 is much funner in sim tbh
Anyone noticed a stray r60 flying by at: 11:10
missile jump scare lol
The mig 29 is just a wonderful aircraft like just LOOK AT IT ITS LOVELY!
"It will allow for sloppier performances, you decide if this is a good or bad thing"
It definitely is a good thing imo. Anyone who disagrees ask yourself this, what's the point on continuing to introduce modern vehicles if they don't provide upgrades and ease of use life upgrades?
Modern military equipment is easier to use than the previous equipment, accessibility improvements were done to make the technology easier to use and more human friendly. The doctorine most countries realised, was a more comfortable pilot or crew meant a better performing crew.
Now that being said it appears that the mig 29 will still perform better if you never make a mistake and fly it like a champ, the difference is there's more of a margin for error.
I just think it's important to accept this sooner rather than later, before the 5th gen jets with thrust vectoring arrive.
I love your content tim
Have you checked out the HMCS on the F-4J yet? Slick stuff, even if its mounted on a 'worse' airframe than the Mig-29.
I have - going to put up a quick vid about them both after they fix the Mig-29 bug I reported (I got confirmation its getting addressed "soon")
@@TimsVariety Speaking of the Mig-29, it got R-27ERs, might need to update the video already! Either way, always looking forwards to your content!
Schrage Musik unlocks its full potential
Overlapping keybinds :-)
7:20 you play only VR in RB? Thought you would go into SB for that
everyone is talking about AMRAAM capable F-16s, but no one mentioned that the MiG-29 we got, is R-77 capable.
also the fact that we didn't get the 29A and jumped to 29S, gives me thoughts of a premium that I hope we don't get any time soon
No Schräge Musik on the plane, 9/10.
Overlapping keybinds ;-)
That **EEEEEEE** helmet mounted targeting system
I absolutely grinded my F-16 yesterday and I love it so much... I know that it wont stay this way for too long
Think it will, if anything its underperforming rather then over. (And its still really good. I’ve seen some people hate on it in the game chat but its as far as I can tell by far the best plane in the game. Though I haven’t tried the mig29)
Also the aim7M right now I don’t think is any different from the aim7F but should be somewhat better as well so we might still get significant upgrades. Either later or when more gen 4 fighters are introduced.
(My guess is that the full performance would be to unbalanced right now. Instead of more decompression gaijin is just nerfing the planes. Don’t fully agree with this but it does work somewhat)
@@xanderwusky I totaly agree that its a great plane. People complaining very often dont know how to play the game - its great plane and Im happy that this time I was acctually able to try it at "first day" when It came out :D
Can you do a vid about key binds please
Hey Tim ! Will you make a review of the mirage 2000D and show the custom loadouts on it pls, i really would like to know if it can destroy entirely a base with a specific bomb loadout. Ty very much love your vids as always
If you mean the new ground attack one, yes it will be getting a review.
@@TimsVariety yup its this one :)
I really want to know if it can destroy a base by itself because its so unsatisfying when the base still has hp after you bomb it lol
You know a video is good when you go to like and you've already liked lol
I would've waited a whole to see how updates and bug reports change the vehicle, but excited to see the video nonetheless
This should've gotten R73s. It's still 90% US on the que, just get those Americans a reason to leave their tree for once
There's a bug on console that when you free look while spooling a missile like the IR missiles, it does not following where you look like it should and how you do on PC. Bit frustrating I am not able to use the helmet mount display on my IR missiles and have to use the mouse aim to aim it.
11:11 AAMs working as intended
With the Mig-29 in War Thunder. I now wait the Su-27 with extreme patience.
man idk if im the only one but the radar loses lock on this jet when i wanna use my R27R !? i just don’t understand how the radar on this thing works, it was really simple on the MLD, but this i get a lock and then fire just to see the lock go away and the missile hit nothing but air !!
Where are the PL-8 for my glorious J-8B, Gaijooble ?
How about it's cannon sight: on air target?? Idk how to use it (if you set up the sight mode control, you can go through standard, cannon on ground (ballistics computer), and cannon on air target (which is new). These all refer to the in cockpit sight)
irl the hms is even better, it slave the irst or radar, and then the radar or the irst enslave the missile. Once the target is lock the red circle stop following your head but follow the locked plane. thanks to that you can easly keep the position of your enemy in a dogfight.
Would you recommend running the R27ER on the soviet MiG-28
How do you know it is Mig 29S? 9-13 means that it has fat back. Mig 29A also had 9-13 versions.
I mentioned in reply to a few other comments - gaijin seems to have changed what version its supposed to be mid-development, so I had to pick one for simplicity since its kindof mismatched to either subversions.
Do the HMDs work with anything other than the R-27T?
As I was thinking, this doesnt really shift the meta. Mig29 should have been introduced together with the f-14, that still remains the most capable aircraft in the american tech tree and arguably in the game. But now at least it has several worthy opponents. I'd like to see also france and sweden get better BVR missiles in the future to stop the gap between them and the usa.
Is there a chance you could make another video about radar? Because radar has gone through a lot of change resently
What is better? AIM7F or the R27R? (Maybe throw the AIM7M in the comparison)
current 7M is a copy pasted 7F, might change later
Even if r27r is better missile on its own the radar on mig29 makes it a much worse option
@@wapniak666Russian radars are always worse than American ones, that’s why you have good IRST
7F by a loooot. It accelerates faster, burns longer, actually tracks and have range. R27R have.... 30gs, thats all and only if it decides to track.
@@Austrium1483 exactly, which means that no matter how good the Russian missile is, IR option is pretty much always better
11:10 jesus that was close lol
I reached out the window for a high-five as it flew past.
@Tim Variety, I don’t agree with you regarding the mig 29 being a competitive jet, few days ago , the devs released a report stating the fact that, the 29 is performing way worse than the f16, so I do not agree with you regarding the 29 as it can’t BVR and can’t BVM.
Grinded for 12 hours straight to get this thing and was it worth it? Probably not. Is it fun? Definitely. I certainly feel like its underperforming significantly to how it should but at this point I think everything in WarThunder is
I felt the mig 29s handling is really inconsistent even now, like it's maneurability is a 50/50 it's either a brick for no reason or pulls so hard you g lock
Mate, your reviews are amazing, but please, activate rectangular radar HUD, it gives more info that normal one!!
Its personal preference, I prefer the way the PPI visualizes the direction and dish angles.
@@TimsVariety no, I didn't mean like always, just for this videos, I think it would show us better the info and what you talk about
Of course you don't have to, is just my opinion
Brick knows this is a video about the Mig29 but, does anyone know the graphic settings for those smooth missile contrails and flares?
Gaijin gave this this thing the r-27er with 100km range and a speed of mach 5.8. How would this missile impact the plane?
Longer lance for jousting. I just tested it out a couple times, its big asset in WT matches seems to be that its crazy fast (rather than its long range).
5:07 can be easily flared...
Anyone having a problem not having the HMD working on console? Or is there a HMD setting that you have to enable? Thanks!
to counter the F14 Phoneix you can sideclimb so that F-14 Radar can't see you.
R-24T's supposed "Flare resistance" is nerfed right now.
Everyone is saying that, but I've had REALLY good luck with them so far.
Aren’t the Engines a bit weak tho? I mean if you compare it to an F4E the F4 has more thrust than it.
Hey, when are you going to explain how to use the new radars? Constantly losing lock with the f16 and aim7m even when the target isn't notching
Soon
f14 had that problem when it first launched it might be something gaijin has to fix
I hear alot of people complaining about $70 premium well they are $89.99 here so after taxes they are over $100 here in Canada
And they're like $1700 in Mexico.
That is how currencies work, yes.
Did you just discover currencies??
Are you black?
Is there a way to just buy the plane? I am new and I really don't want to play war thunder with ww1 and ww2 era planes. The only thing I like is 4 gen jets. I love DCS but sometimes I just want a simple arcade fights. War thunder seems nice, but I don't want to grind old planes...
Sadly there is no way to just skip forward and buy the new mig29 if u honestly WANT to spend money get a premium id recommend the mig21 r13-300 and from there grind out the jets
@@zengod406 nah, i really dont enjoy the game that way. Especially since its a huge grind of something i dont enjoy. Its fine. Thank you for your answer.
"some kind of counter-CAS" CAP, please dear god, we need to make CAP a thing.
What is cap? Close air protection? I've always just called it air superiority or anti air.
@@bigoof1105 Combat air patrol
11:11 there is a missile right besides you :D
So why exactly was the Mig29S added and not the Mig 29A like in in DCS?
They often do that with Soviet jets - the Mig-23M for example, instead of the original Mig-23.
Can we see a review on the F-16 soon?
Soon. Very soon.
As a german player, all we get is the tornado. I love the 29, i wish we got the 9-12, even if it had Nothing but r60… it would give germany something
This update really made me regret my decision to main Germany and Japan.
@@realname6781 I like the phantom so the EJ kai is fine. but germany has jack shit for air to air and has for a while
i dont regret going german, i just hate being neglected
@@realname6781 hopefully Japan Will get at time f16s or f15 wev comes next
@@aurelliadarkwater1136 I've been having better luck flying the MLA then the EJ Kai. Both are fine, but I can't say I'm not jealous of other nations. With that being said, I'm probably going to start grinding the Italian tree since it seems to be the fastest way to get an F-16.
Mig29 9.13 isn't mig29s. Mig 29s is 9.13s, even some 9.12 were retrofitted to 9.12s. Mig29s can use R77 and has several visual differences to the one in game.
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Can someone explain why there are two different versions of the F-16A in the USA tree?
One gets two aim7ms and the other doesn’t
@@raygunreagan2274 I see, but why is the stat card different? Also one can carry bombs and rockets and the other doesn’t
The ADF is for pure air superiority while the A version is more of a multi-roll for ground attacking.