PS: This isn't the only video about the JFK assassination coming out today. We've got another one coming in 4 hours on another game from that day and another bizarre controversy
You gotta remember there was another shock this day too… Jack Ruby walks up n shoots Lee Harvey Oswald that morning ! In the basement of the DPD station !
@@inny74tin foil? You sound like you’ve never done a lick a research in your life. Lemme guess. You believe everything you see on tv, the news paper, on Facebook. No second thoughts even a little? Btw fun fact. Conspiracy theory was a term created by the CIA to discredit whistleblowers by means of making them seem crazy and untrustworthy back in the 1960s. You won’t learn that on bought and paid for operation mockingbird lamestream media though. Back to sleep now for you. Gnight.
@user-pv8jy1nt8fpeople get so butt hurt when you challenge their fragile belief system bro. Take them saying that as now you know for a fact they just believe what they’re told no reason, no research, no second thoughts about any of it. That’s how anyone that has feels about them.
@@americangiant1003 Yeah, but my mom started work at a local hospital on 11/22/63. She just passed away on, the 18th, three weeks short of her 98th birthday. Not every thing was devastatingly bad on that day. Even here in the Detroit area.
A youth choir sang "The eyes of Texas are upon you. You will not get away," to JFK the morning in Fort Worth, just three hours before he was killed. How's that for eerie foreshadowing!
Aldous Huxley and C.S. Lewis also died on Nov. 22, 1963. Had Oswald not killed JFK, the day's news would have been dominated by the coincidence of the deaths of these two influential people.
I remember long ago reading part of a book an ex-NFL player wrote about playing in the NFL. He played for the Cardinals in 1963 and said that before the start of the game the Sunday after the assassination, the crowd was silent and sad. But as soon as the game got going, the crowd started yelling and totally forgot about the circumstances. People were looking for a break from the nonstop 24/7 coverage (which was unheard of back then) of the assassination on radio/TV.
Some people like to sit at home dwell on the negative and just be miserable. Then they get butt hurt when others would rather go out and be distracted for a little bit. Imagine getting mad that someone wanted to try and not be stressed for a few hours. I mean peoples mad in the comments if you look around and they’re getting a bunch of up votes. It’s sad and scary and a dash of pathetic bro. At least it’s not everyone. I was getting worried but finally found someone who smells what I’m stepping in 😆
There's no right or wrong answer here as to cancel the games or let them go on. Everyone handles grief differently. I wasn't alive for the JFK assassination but I was for 9/11. I was a big WWE fan at the time and WWE decided not to cancel their next show after 9/11 and I was so grateful for that, I was worried and scared and it felt like the world had been turned upside down, so it was nice to feel that normality again of watching WWE on tv, to alleviate some of that fear and worry for a couple of hours.
I remember that SmackDown (I was a WWE fan at the time too), although some of the comments made during that show, from Stephanie McMahon and JBL, are horribly insensitive in hindsight
They shouldve ask which song they would perform. Im sure the student would understand if im the Rams I would canceled the Halftime and invite them to the game
No, I don't think they would. We would have wondered why we didn't change the tone of the show as an honor to the man. If it's one thing marching bands know by heart, it's patriotic songs. Imagine Memorial Day without music. To me, same thing. By the way, playing at halftime IS being invited to the game. No one is that cheap that they would require them to buy tickets. Back "in the old days" our marching band played for the Lions, our pep band for the Pistons, our cheerleaders were invited to work the crowd at Red Wing games. Without paying for tickets. The University of Michigan used to have Band Day (maybe still does) where thousands of high school kids would be on the field at halftime playing. No room to march though. We didn't pay for ticket when we were invited. Because, we were invited. It was great. It would have been too many drummers if everyone participated. I volunteered to stay in the stands . . . and watch. A 100,000 seat stadium looked pretty sparse when they went to the field. Before the game was fun. Bands trying to out-do each other with their school's fight song. Some all around the stadium, from different schools, poked fun when they started up with the Michigan St. fight song. Occasionally, one group would start up a song everyone knew, and there would be all 20,000 or so or us rocking the crisp autumn air in Ann Arbor. Ah, fun days. Didn't even care that much that my girlfriend broke up with me that day. (Okay . . . I lied. I cared . . A LOT!)
I remember the story CBS did back in 1993 on the games that NFL played days after JFK assassination and didn't know that none of the games was televised
Even if they were going to be televised they would have been interrupted as soon as the alleged shooter was then shot to death...which I think was the first shooting shown on live TV (unintentionally of course)
@@briandonegan8480 There are many who will disagree calling Oswald the “Alleged” Shooter. IMO Oswald was no doubt involved in at least somewhat with the shooting. The only question was whether LHO had “help” which sadly we as a planet will never know. 😔
Why because it hurt your feelings? There’s a reason it set attendance records and it wasn’t because it was a “dumb decision.” Why you mad others wanted to go be distracted when you’d rather be miserable?
The non-sequitur about the one hit wonder walking 1,000 miles got me thinking. That’s also the length the Scottish duo The Proclaimers would walk. They’d walk 500 miles and 500 more
Ironically, sportscaster Dick Stockton 21st birthday was on the same day as the Kennedy assassination. He was born November 22, 1942. Today on this day the 60th anniversary of the JFK assassination, he turns 81.
NFL assistant coach and USC player Kennedy Polamalu was born in American Samoa on 11/22/1963. Needless to say, he was named because of the news story breaking as he came into the world.
JFK'S assassination happened on a Friday, so I could understand the AFL, NHL, and NBA shutting down 9-11 was on a Tuesday...On Friday, MLB should have resumed, CFB should have played Saturday, and NFL on Sunday...The high school football games went on as scheduled that Friday
The problem with that is there were no flights after the attack because of fears of another attack and many were stranded that were on flights that day at airports and communities until flights were resumed so it would have been really bad for Pro teams to be flying while many were stranded. I am glad the NFL did not have games after 9-11 as I was in no mood for games after the death of thousands and the NFL should have done what the AFL did which cancel games the weekend after the JFK murder.
I wonder if the Rams knew what that band planned to play after they found out about JFK's death. I know logistics complicated things, but something had to be done. Rozelle should've nailed the Rams for this.
I was in my high school marching band and pep band. It would have been pretty straightforward, given the circumstances, to march out to the center of the field to the tick of a single snare drum, stand at attention, and play the Star Spangled Banner. Then about face, play America the Beautiful, and march off the field to that single ticking drum. Oh, and everyone wears a black armband.🤓
In mine (1970-1974), we played all of our halftime shows music by memory. With a full day beforehand, I think we could have switched up on the fly. Walked in step to a concert formation, played a more appropriate set, if abbreviated. Our uniforms, I think like most, were dual purpose. Concert appropriate, with the flashy overlays for marching events. We could have easily left off the marching "attachments" and done something to fit the occasion. Sheet music, if needed could have very easily, and very willingly been loaned by a local high school, I'm certain. High school bands are a competitive, but if needed, VERY tight knit group. I don't think the "adults" in the room would have given much credit to the intelligence of those kids. You see, at least our group, would have felt honored to play the right music, in the right place, at that time, on such an momentous occasion. Kids were different back then. They knew. I even knew at seven years-old. It would have been out of respect, for the man, and the country. Also for the resilience of the American spirit. To carry on, but without forgetting how, why, and with whom got us there. But, that's just me . . .
We tended to play from memory, too. First four songs memorized, for every freshman, tended to be the Star Spangled Banner, our alma mater, America the Beautiful, and the Washington State University fight song (a N Idaho high school, class of '84)
I'm not a band person, but don't high school bands have a couple of standard numbers that they can whip out and play blindfolded? It seems like that would've been a better option.
The PA announcer in Cleveland referred to the visiting team as the Cowboys instead of Dallas. The AFL cancelled games that weekend. What if the former Dallas Texans hadn’t moved to Kansas City after winning the 1962 double overtime thriller vs the Houston Oilers? Texans could have had a game in Dallas that weekend at the Cotton Bowl. MLB postponed Opening Day games after MLK was assassinated in 1968 but after RFK was taken away two months later, Commissioner Eckert postponed some games and not others. I think they wanted the players to play.
Kitty speaking of June 1968, was any MLB games at least postponed? Personally I think all of the MLB games scheduled that day/evening of RFK’s funeral should have been rescheduled. Even if that meant the regular season had to be extended an extra day or two.
Thank you, Colin, for another brilliant video. I also went on to watch the second JFK video (about the Giants fans' "protest") and in both cases, I saw your genius in finding stories no one else could tell. To add to what happened in Cleveland that same day: I have heard that the public address announcer at Municipal Stadium was instructed not to say "Dallas" at any point during the game, because that was the city in which JFK was assassinated, and furthermore because at that time, Dallas was known as a right-wing stronghold and home to various hate groups.
That's interesting. I was about to post that I thought Dallas had changed and become more progressive in the last 60 years, but I would have been wrong.😞
12:16 I'M SORRY WHAT THE MARCHING BAND FROM CLOVIS NEW MEXICO PLAYED MUSIC FROM LAWRENCE OF FREAKING ARABIA A FILM THAT NOT ONLY IS A YEAR OLD AND STILL HOT PROPERTY AND STILL THEY PLAYED IT IN A FOOTBALL GAME LESS THAN 2 WHOLE DAYS AFTER THE WORST ASSASSINATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY I'M SPEECHLESS
Since you have another video coming out later today I’m going to use that video to give any opinions as to whether the games should have been played that weekend and Rozelle’s decision making.
@@user-hs7qf5vv2nMark my words. If/When the Lions are making a deep playoff run, reaching the Conference Finals or even the Super Bowl, it will get major national/international news attention. It would rival say the 2016 Cubs and or 2017 Eagles with franchises that has been around for well over a century trying to end a long championship drought.
Some people like to sit at home dwell on the negative and just be miserable. Then they get butt hurt when others would rather go out and be distracted for a little bit. Imagine getting mad that someone wanted to try and not be stressed for a few hours when you didn’t.
The Cowboys were playing in Cleveland on the 24 November 1963. I've read stories about some of the Dallas players being afraid to take the field due to the hostility of the fans.
They had to keep their helmets on while on the sidelines because fans were throwing stuff at them. As if the players had anything to to with the assassination but they did represent the city where it happened.
@@daboys1215 As another commenter pointed out, the PA announcer at Cleveland Stadium that day referred to the team only as "the Cowboys" for the entirety of the game, refusing to call them "Dallas" as if to distance them from the city.
Pete Rozelle didn't just regret his decision years later. He regretted it almost immediately. He got his clocked cleaned physically by a fan at the game on the Sunday after the assassination. And as far as I know he took it like a man. It was a story recounted countless times in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 which is why I remember it
I have to wonder how much the ego of the marching band director played a part in this. As someone who used to be in an orchestra, there've been stories and experiences of many a conductor who were bound and determined to play what they were scheduled to play, when they were scheduled to play it for no real reason other than feeling like an authority figure over the kids in their care. Maybe he pushed on over the objections of Rozelle, Reeves, and everyone else due to a stubborn desire to not look any less powerful than before.
Had the Cowboys had a home game that weekend, the week's games would have for sure been postponed. A worse choice for music from a motion picture would be "Camelot."
I’m glad you brought up Beatlemania. I guarantee you that had the rams let the marching band play Beatles songs in the middle of beatlemania instead of Lawrence of Arabia, it would’ve made it even worse and even more tasteless
The AFL did the Right Thing at the time ..Rozell would later go on to say it was his Worse mistake ever as Commissioner . Incredibly 3 years later the AFL forced the NFL to Merge rest is history!
Knowing that the President was a big football fan, I can kind of understand Roselle's decision. I'm a huge game show fan, and if I were the President and died in office, I might want my fellow game show fans to be able to watch the game shows they expected to see. (And believe me, you do NOT want to be a station manager when daytime programs get pre-empted!)
Hey, Since you'd be the guy to give the nuanced well researched look on this, Can you give an objective look on Scott Mitchell's QB run with The Lions? Since the Barry Sanders Documentary and Mitchell now saying he was thrown under the bus as a scapegoat.
People forget from 1959-1965 the Rams had losing seasons and because of Television games begain to be Blackout in LA back then and neeed anything to keep people coming
That was what I thought you would do when I suggested this video-very well done 0-I did not know this about the rams and yes it was the worst idea they ever made-at least the afl made father the right decision to cancel the games compared to the nfl !😮😮
Considering that most of the owners at the time were either lifelong or former intelligence officers or agents, the planners of the assassination were at the Cowboy's owners family home the night before, including the father and brother of the founder of the AFL who also had a meeting with Jack Ruby in their office days beforehand. On the non conspiratorial business side, once the AFL said they weren't playing, the NFL realized that they had an entire nation as a captive audience as they would be the only ones outside of the Dallas municipal jail offering anything of interest to the millions of people who had been watching news reports since Friday afternoon, they were going to be the only show in all the towns. The Rams had just the year before been repurchased by Dan Reeves in an NFL mandated auction due to the three main shareholders inability to resolve their personal grudges. Reeves had previously sold 2/3 ownership out of desperation due to mounting losses which first drove him to move the team from Cleveland to Los Angeles originally. The team was still struggling to make money and now Reeves had paid more to repurchase his shares than he had sold them for, and outbid his former partners $7.1m to $6.1m showing the sizable difference in value the sides shared and to even afford that he had to raise funds by promising investors stake in 49% of the team if his bid was successful. So in other words, Reeves and the Rams needed the cash and there was no way that they were canceling a home game against Johnny Unitas and the Colts who were sure to draw a crowd, and considering the timing, I would say pulling an attendance of over 48,000 when the season average was 38,000 justified the decision. Regularly drawing crowds double that size just a few years earlier the downturn of the teams on field performance led to a very stereotypically Los Angeles attendance crash and the massive LA Colosseum was now hosting games with 70% empty seats which we all know does not play well in hollywood. Oh, and speaking of hollywood, who were most of the investors that now owned half of the Rams? Hollywood investors. What movie had been released the year before and won 7 oscars? Lawrence of Arabia. The movie was so popular that at the time of this game, a year after its release the film was still being screened to such demand that tickets had to be pre reserved. In other words, Lawrence was kind of a big deal, especially in Los Angeles. So to go back to my original point, the NFL seeing a big weekend to themselves with the AFL halting play, and especially the struggling Rams were not going to cancel games also faced an additional dilemma that the AFL did not. Delay the season and hold the championship for the first time in January. At the time the host was determined on a rotating basis between divisions. In 1963 the West was to host both games which was fine for the AFL since at the time San Diego and Oakland were well ahead and virtually assured of hosting that game. The NFL on the other hand, was staring at a near certainty that they would be holding their championship game in either Chicago or Green Bay. So for the AFL sure, no problem, we have no issues pushing the season back with San Diego not only not being a problem, but a bonus for potential fans from Boston or Buffalo looking for a new years vacation option. The NFL had no such sunny option since we know how the Rams season was going, and the only other possible warmish, to everyone back east that is, chance was San Francisco. The 2 win 49er's did not help the scenario. So faced with cold and windy or cold and even colder, pushing back the NFL season was not really much of an option but an idea was sparked due to the television blackout. To get around local blackout restrictions for the Championship game being held in Chicago, as well as make up for the extra attendence executives had hoped for by hosting the game at the much larger Soldier Field later in the day which was shut down by George Halas keeping the game at the smaller wrigley field and forced into an earlier start time due to the lack of lights the league decided to offer a new alternative to fans who wanted to see the game without sitting in the upper deck of an already old and decrepit baseball stadium when it was 10 degrees outside. Closed circuit viewing at indoor arenas around the city. 26,000 plus showed up at 4 locations to partake in the nfl's first foray into pay-per-view. As for the games, well the well rested Chargers decimated the Patriots in front of a home crowd that looked as though noone had told San Diego that the season had not in fact ended weeks earlier. The NFL had the opposite result as they not only circumvented blackout restrictions in the nations second largest market at the time with the closed circut events, but the league offices dream matchup between Chicago and New York did not dissapoint as the Bears knocked Y.A. Tittle out of the game on two seperate occasions only for him to heroicly reenter the game minutes later due to the magic of cortisone, novicane and lots of tape. Unfortunatly for the giants, they may have been better off with a quarterback who was not made of steel and gunpowder as the bears intercepted 5 passes with the final one coming in the end zone with 10 seconds to play, preserving a hard fought and brutal defensive battle 14-10 on a frozen baseball field. This assuredly was not a day where even Ernie Banks would have said, let's play two. Also, since an hour before the first kickoffs of the day Lee Harvey Oswald was shot by Jack Ruby I don't think anyone who was not in attendance really cared what was going on at these non televised games. And those who were obviously were not overly concerned with anything outside the stadium.
I bet it's no surprise on why the game between the Colts and the Rams at LA was like not in full capacity (which would not be televised locally in the LA area under blackout rules), due to the unfortunate assassination of JFK. Which would almost be similar to what occured in San Francisco about a decade and a half later when their own mayor was shot and been unalived, yet the NFL still went to keep going with their game between the 49ers and the then-defending SB champ Steelers at Candlestick Park. But regardless, whether the league would acknowledge or not about any tragic incident, they went the apathetic move from a business standpoint and kept going with the games as planned, without any question asked at all.
@@user-hs7qf5vv2n I have footage of super bowl 1 and (of the rams vs colts this day) it is wild to see that even with seats still not full they had over 60k attending the super bowl.
It would have made sense to have the hs band play the national anthem, so their trip was not in vain. Then keep the halftime show music-less as Roselle ordered.
This is very similar to what happened in the Premier League in 1997 a few days after Princess Diana was killed in a car crash in Paris. Unlike many of the UK's sporting leagues who flat out cancelled all games/races, the Premier League decided to carry on with that weekend's matches mainly because like this they wanted to give people a distraction & sense of normalcy. As a way of honoring Princess Diana & to acknowledge what happened, before every match that weekend, there would be a moment of silence followed by a minute's applause and a lot of what JG9 mentioned about festivities would apply here as well especially when it came to music during warm ups. However during the Man United-Derby County match, Man United decided to play pop music during not only the pre game warm ups but also at halftime as a way of "getting the supporters hyped for the match" even though the Premier League explicitly told them not to. There may be another reason why this happened as Man United at the time were owned by Rupert Murdoch who also owned the Sun newspaper. The Sun & the Royal Family were engaged in a bitter feud at the time over how the Sun covered them & Princess Diana's death only escalated things. The playing of the pop music by Man United was seen by many as not only as very disrespectful but also Rupert Murdoch's way of giving the middle finger to the Royal Family. Man United were fined 100,000 pounds each by both the Premier League & the English FA for playing the pop music. To further show how angry people in the UK were about this, there were even some in the UK government that wanted to throw Rupert Murdoch in prison for this stunt & for Sky Sports/News (a Rupert Murdoch owned station) to be taken off the air. This is easily one of the worst moments in Man United's history.
Man United were eventually bought by Malcolm Glazer (the same Malcolm Glazer who made the Bucs a respectable franchise) a few years later. Under Glazer ownership, Man United's fortunes went in the opposite direction to the Bucs.
Lions 60 year curse began that day. Thanks fords, In retrospect rozelle made an ill fated decision he took to the grave with him. Rival afl who nfl mocked and laughed at had their shit together and did not play that sunday. With no big tv $$$'s at stake and no games televised a puzzling decision. Greedy nfl/owners must have wanted some gate that day. Players said they didn't want to play that day yet played with a heavy heart. And as players got ready to play that day ruby walked unchecked into dpd to shoot/silence LHO. 'I'm just a patsy'. Today''s players are too overcome to play when a player goes down with a hang nail. Plus nfl had no problem 'postponing' games for pokes sake in '20. Even cancelled a game last season due to injury. Total nfl hypocrisy today. Totally different era now. nfl would find some way to ca$h in on jfk assassination today like they do with military/vets day which is just paid advertising for nfl who doesn't really care about america/vets as they let america haters use games to spit on america. You notice players are now walking advertizing during games as radical agendas appear in the end zones. nfl still had a soul in '63, just made a bone head decision. nfl has no soul anymore, it has been corrupted. F you nfl.
I’ll probably be blasted for saying this…but context is in order here. Many college football games were played the day AFTER the assassination, esp. in the South. And while the NY Philharmonic cut short their concert on the day of JFK getting killed, they went through w/a tribute concert on Nov. 24. This idea that the NFL was acting as a tone deaf, lone wolf by offering entertainment during this time…is flat out FALSE! And finally, while Rozelle pondered whether to go through with the 11/24 schedule, it was none other than JFK press secretary Pierre Salinger, encouraging him to play the games, to offer the public a diversion from the tragedy.
02:37 there’s nothing insensitive about a football game. Here’s the bottom line and it applies even until now. I mean if you think it shouldn’t have been played then it’s simple don’t watch or pay attention. Don’t get butthurt that other people thought differently and wanted to go and be distracted. I mean after all there was a reason it set attendance records and honestly I think Rozelle only considered it a mistake because people complained that were butt hurt and because of the wanted to control other peoples lives that weren’t. Because that’s what it all boils down to even to this day. People upset and wanting to control others that don’t think they way they do. It’s actually a pathetic way to think. Mad someone does something you don’t think they should. It breaks the golden rule. Doing to others what you wouldn’t want done to you.
Can't be too surprised honestly because California is one of if not the most liberal states in the country and the Democratic Party (JFK's party) was the conservatives (fascists) at the time. Honestly surprised they didn't boo the moment of silence and most Californians like all liberal states were probably celebrating the assassination. I know people in very conservative (fascist) Texas and all other conservative states would celebrate a liberal president like Biden's assassination if one happened so I have to assume Californian's and New Mexican's two very liberal states celebrated Kennedy's assassination. BTW was a band in New Mexico playing there instead of Dallas, Houston, or Denver. Also why did they not fly out like normal people, because there were plenty of airplanes by the 60's. JFK was a war hero so the war film song fit him well. I don't know anything about how my home state (Massachusetts) reacted to the JFK assassination but we are the most liberal state in the country so I assume we had ticker tape parades and people spraying champagne in the streets celebrating his death. I know for a fact our whole state would have if Trump was assassinated so I assume we would have for a different conservative like JFK was assassinated.
Wasn't CA a lot more conservative in those days? (in fact, the GOP held their 1964 convention in San Francisco, something that would be unthinkable today)
With 9 11 sport in America was on hold for over a week and half. So no repeat of this reoccurring . Also to have 2 videos on the same subject shows how this changed the climate❤ in America 👍🙈🙉🙊
And you are calling out rams for this? Man nfl should have never been playing that sunday. No way to prepare for the unforseen circumstances. Irony-ram rosey greir was a rfk bodyguard who tried to save bobby after shooting in la of all places six years later. '60's became very turbulant times after jfk assasination. Assasinations became rampant-the norm. Like the song said 'when a leader speaks, that leader dies'. Beatlemania began roughly six weeks later to soothe america's battered soul even though the trust of g'vmt by americans was now shit. And jfk meddling in the mob thanks to att. general bobby got jfk killed. They broke their promise to cuban mob boss santo trafficante and others to lay off the mob who helped get jfk elected. Old man joe's mob ties bought the chicago vote to put jfk over the top in election. To the surprise of many the next a m. And the dallas end including changing the route jfk took thru dallas at last minute was on texan lbj's end including letting 'mobster' ruby just walk into dpd unchecked and shoot LHO who was indeed a 'patsie'. Who stops to get a coke after shooting the president? Only a patsie does.
You mean Thunder 103093 the song selection by that New Mexico High School band at the Rams game the Sunday after the JFK Murder? Or playing games league wide as scheduled that same weekend? While I personally think the NFL should have postponed that Sunday on 11/24/63 and push the season back a week, at least playing that weekend was a much more fair argument. So I agree with Jag here. The High School band playing that song on that day was almost as tasteless as playing “Another Bites The Dust” at someone’s funeral. 😞
@@Thunder103093 You aren't old enough. If you were alive, or aware enough then, you like 99% of the Americans then would still care today. You are just trying to get noticed by being controversial. I know. I used to think I was more important than I really was and did such things to get attention. Then I grew up. Hopefully, you will too someday.
@@DDS029 no, i just want to watch football so I don’t see it as an issue that the games were played & since I don’t play attention or care about halftime shows, I don’t care what the song is played or whatever, im not saying it to be edgy, i just want to watch football no matter what is going on cause i love the sport
JFK would want us to play on! it's how we heal! JG9 shouldn't be a TH-camr, he should be on a future episode of My 600 lbs Life aka My Life As A Fat Fuck!! LMAO
PS: This isn't the only video about the JFK assassination coming out today. We've got another one coming in 4 hours on another game from that day and another bizarre controversy
@user-pv8jy1nt8fIt seems like you got a lot to learn. Put down the tinfoil and come back to reality.
You gotta remember there was another shock this day too… Jack Ruby walks up n shoots Lee Harvey Oswald that morning ! In the basement of the DPD station !
@@inny74tin foil? You sound like you’ve never done a lick a research in your life. Lemme guess. You believe everything you see on tv, the news paper, on Facebook. No second thoughts even a little? Btw fun fact. Conspiracy theory was a term created by the CIA to discredit whistleblowers by means of making them seem crazy and untrustworthy back in the 1960s. You won’t learn that on bought and paid for operation mockingbird lamestream media though. Back to sleep now for you. Gnight.
@user-pv8jy1nt8fpeople get so butt hurt when you challenge their fragile belief system bro. Take them saying that as now you know for a fact they just believe what they’re told no reason, no research, no second thoughts about any of it. That’s how anyone that has feels about them.
The Lions were sold to William Clay Ford on 11/22/63. This was the darkest day in Lions history
😮 And the “curse of the Ford Family” of the Detroit Lions was born on November 22, 1963 on the same day as JFK died.
@@americangiant1003 Yeah, but my mom started work at a local hospital on 11/22/63. She just passed away on, the 18th, three weeks short of her 98th birthday. Not every thing was devastatingly bad on that day. Even here in the Detroit area.
@@DDS029 So sorry for your loss.
1. Imagine the clusterfuck if the Cowboys and/or the Redskins had been at home that week!
Is it bad that when I imagined the marching band playing a tone deaf song, I imagined "Hit the road Jack"? That would be next-level tone deaf.
A youth choir sang "The eyes of Texas are upon you. You will not get away," to JFK the morning in Fort Worth, just three hours before he was killed. How's that for eerie foreshadowing!
Aldous Huxley and C.S. Lewis also died on Nov. 22, 1963. Had Oswald not killed JFK, the day's news would have been dominated by the coincidence of the deaths of these two influential people.
I see that nod to 'We Didn't Start the Fire' at the end.
JFK blown away. What else do I have to say?!?!
The Rams could have also had the band perform the National Anthem. This was clearly a lack of communication on both sides.
A lot of small businesses had signs on their doors that weekend: "Closed due to a death in the family."
I'm assuming you lived in the greater Boston area in the time?
Didn’t know your family member was an adulterer who cheated continually on his wife and killed political leaders at random 😢
@@TimmyTickle Nope
Wow 60 years
It like you want Stairway To Heaven to be your tribute song and they played the song backward
I remember long ago reading part of a book an ex-NFL player wrote about playing in the NFL. He played for the Cardinals in 1963 and said that before the start of the game the Sunday after the assassination, the crowd was silent and sad. But as soon as the game got going, the crowd started yelling and totally forgot about the circumstances. People were looking for a break from the nonstop 24/7 coverage (which was unheard of back then) of the assassination on radio/TV.
Some people like to sit at home dwell on the negative and just be miserable. Then they get butt hurt when others would rather go out and be distracted for a little bit. Imagine getting mad that someone wanted to try and not be stressed for a few hours. I mean peoples mad in the comments if you look around and they’re getting a bunch of up votes. It’s sad and scary and a dash of pathetic bro. At least it’s not everyone. I was getting worried but finally found someone who smells what I’m stepping in 😆
This vid has one of the most record-scratching, incredulous "I'm sorry, **WHAT?!?!**" in channel history
There's no right or wrong answer here as to cancel the games or let them go on. Everyone handles grief differently. I wasn't alive for the JFK assassination but I was for 9/11. I was a big WWE fan at the time and WWE decided not to cancel their next show after 9/11 and I was so grateful for that, I was worried and scared and it felt like the world had been turned upside down, so it was nice to feel that normality again of watching WWE on tv, to alleviate some of that fear and worry for a couple of hours.
I remember that SmackDown (I was a WWE fan at the time too), although some of the comments made during that show, from Stephanie McMahon and JBL, are horribly insensitive in hindsight
They shouldve ask which song they would perform. Im sure the student would understand if im the Rams I would canceled the Halftime and invite them to the game
No, I don't think they would. We would have wondered why we didn't change the tone of the show as an honor to the man. If it's one thing marching bands know by heart, it's patriotic songs. Imagine Memorial Day without music. To me, same thing.
By the way, playing at halftime IS being invited to the game. No one is that cheap that they would require them to buy tickets. Back "in the old days" our marching band played for the Lions, our pep band for the Pistons, our cheerleaders were invited to work the crowd at Red Wing games. Without paying for tickets.
The University of Michigan used to have Band Day (maybe still does) where thousands of high school kids would be on the field at halftime playing. No room to march though. We didn't pay for ticket when we were invited. Because, we were invited. It was great. It would have been too many drummers if everyone participated. I volunteered to stay in the stands . . . and watch. A 100,000 seat stadium looked pretty sparse when they went to the field. Before the game was fun. Bands trying to out-do each other with their school's fight song. Some all around the stadium, from different schools, poked fun when they started up with the Michigan St. fight song. Occasionally, one group would start up a song everyone knew, and there would be all 20,000 or so or us rocking the crisp autumn air in Ann Arbor. Ah, fun days. Didn't even care that much that my girlfriend broke up with me that day. (Okay . . . I lied. I cared . . A LOT!)
I remember the story CBS did back in 1993 on the games that NFL played days after JFK assassination and didn't know that none of the games was televised
@user-hs7qf5vv2n Wow not even radio. I thought the game would still be live then cut away for the funeral
@@user-hs7qf5vv2n That was under the circumstances the right call by the Giants and WNEW AM.
Even if they were going to be televised they would have been interrupted as soon as the alleged shooter was then shot to death...which I think was the first shooting shown on live TV (unintentionally of course)
@@briandonegan8480 There are many who will disagree calling Oswald the “Alleged” Shooter. IMO Oswald was no doubt involved in at least somewhat with the shooting. The only question was whether LHO had “help” which sadly we as a planet will never know. 😔
I actually just came across a home movie from that day. It's of the Rams vs Colts game played in Los Angeles. I uploaded it to my channel.
Also my Mom's 16th Birthday.
I'm usually annoyed by the expression "read the room," but it applies here. Talk about a Dumb Decision!
Why because it hurt your feelings? There’s a reason it set attendance records and it wasn’t because it was a “dumb decision.” Why you mad others wanted to go be distracted when you’d rather be miserable?
The non-sequitur about the one hit wonder walking 1,000 miles got me thinking. That’s also the length the Scottish duo The Proclaimers would walk. They’d walk 500 miles and 500 more
Ironically, sportscaster Dick Stockton 21st birthday was on the same day as the Kennedy assassination. He was born November 22, 1942. Today on this day the 60th anniversary of the JFK assassination, he turns 81.
Robert Groden turned 18 on that day.
Jagwahs
He was married to Lesley Visser
NFL assistant coach and USC player Kennedy Polamalu was born in American Samoa on 11/22/1963. Needless to say, he was named because of the news story breaking as he came into the world.
JFK'S assassination happened on a Friday, so I could understand the AFL, NHL, and NBA shutting down
9-11 was on a Tuesday...On Friday, MLB should have resumed, CFB should have played Saturday, and NFL on Sunday...The high school football games went on as scheduled that Friday
The problem with that is there were no flights after the attack because of fears of another attack and many were stranded that were on flights that day at airports and communities until flights were resumed so it would have been really bad for Pro teams to be flying while many were stranded. I am glad the NFL did not have games after 9-11 as I was in no mood for games after the death of thousands and the NFL should have done what the AFL did which cancel games the weekend after the JFK murder.
Horrible day, stupidity only added to the misery.
Why not move it to another week
The Baltimore Colts were in the WESTERN conference? That’s another facepalm.
I mean, this a league which as late as 2001 had Phoenix and Dallas in the East and Charlotte and Atlanta in the West...
@@TPTGopher Dallas are still in the East
I wonder if the Rams knew what that band planned to play after they found out about JFK's death. I know logistics complicated things, but something had to be done. Rozelle should've nailed the Rams for this.
For what? This wasn’t Goddell era nfl
Imagine if NBC stuck to its schedule and televised "Singing In the Rain" on Monday night just hours after the funeral
I was in my high school marching band and pep band.
It would have been pretty straightforward, given the circumstances, to march out to the center of the field to the tick of a single snare drum, stand at attention, and play the Star Spangled Banner.
Then about face, play America the Beautiful, and march off the field to that single ticking drum. Oh, and everyone wears a black armband.🤓
In mine (1970-1974), we played all of our halftime shows music by memory. With a full day beforehand, I think we could have switched up on the fly. Walked in step to a concert formation, played a more appropriate set, if abbreviated. Our uniforms, I think like most, were dual purpose. Concert appropriate, with the flashy overlays for marching events. We could have easily left off the marching "attachments" and done something to fit the occasion. Sheet music, if needed could have very easily, and very willingly been loaned by a local high school, I'm certain. High school bands are a competitive, but if needed, VERY tight knit group.
I don't think the "adults" in the room would have given much credit to the intelligence of those kids. You see, at least our group, would have felt honored to play the right music, in the right place, at that time, on such an momentous occasion. Kids were different back then. They knew. I even knew at seven years-old. It would have been out of respect, for the man, and the country. Also for the resilience of the American spirit. To carry on, but without forgetting how, why, and with whom got us there.
But, that's just me . . .
We tended to play from memory, too. First four songs memorized, for every freshman, tended to be the Star Spangled Banner, our alma mater, America the Beautiful, and the Washington State University fight song (a N Idaho high school, class of '84)
@DDS029 please see reply just posted... I agree with everything you said, and am about a decade younger than you 🤓
I'm not a band person, but don't high school bands have a couple of standard numbers that they can whip out and play blindfolded? It seems like that would've been a better option.
Half expected a "Welcome to Dumb Decisions" during this video
Really shouldnt be laughing this hard at that vanessa carlton joke
12:44 i almost spit out my drink when I heard that. That was hilarious. Great video my man.
The PA announcer in Cleveland referred to the visiting team as the Cowboys instead of Dallas. The AFL cancelled games that weekend. What if the former Dallas Texans hadn’t moved to Kansas City after winning the 1962 double overtime thriller vs the Houston Oilers? Texans could have had a game in Dallas that weekend at the Cotton Bowl. MLB postponed Opening Day games after MLK was assassinated in 1968 but after RFK was taken away two months later, Commissioner Eckert postponed some games and not others. I think they wanted the players to play.
Kitty speaking of June 1968, was any MLB games at least postponed? Personally I think all of the MLB games scheduled that day/evening of RFK’s funeral should have been rescheduled. Even if that meant the regular season had to be extended an extra day or two.
Thank you, Colin, for another brilliant video. I also went on to watch the second JFK video (about the Giants fans' "protest") and in both cases, I saw your genius in finding stories no one else could tell.
To add to what happened in Cleveland that same day: I have heard that the public address announcer at Municipal Stadium was instructed not to say "Dallas" at any point during the game, because that was the city in which JFK was assassinated, and furthermore because at that time, Dallas was known as a right-wing stronghold and home to various hate groups.
Pretty sure Dallas still is a right wing stronghold
That's interesting. I was about to post that I thought Dallas had changed and become more progressive in the last 60 years, but I would have been wrong.😞
12:16 I'M SORRY WHAT THE MARCHING BAND FROM CLOVIS NEW MEXICO PLAYED MUSIC FROM LAWRENCE OF FREAKING ARABIA A FILM THAT NOT ONLY IS A YEAR OLD AND STILL HOT PROPERTY AND STILL THEY PLAYED IT IN A FOOTBALL GAME LESS THAN 2 WHOLE DAYS AFTER THE WORST ASSASSINATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY I'M SPEECHLESS
The NFL was extremely tone deaf and this would never, ever fly today. The backlash would be swift and decisive.
Where did you get this information? Outstanding research, JaguarGator.
By the way, the JFK Presidential Library in Boston, the assassination is covered as a black hallway with footage of the coverage of the assassination
Since you have another video coming out later today I’m going to use that video to give any opinions as to whether the games should have been played that weekend and Rozelle’s decision making.
This is worse than.....
The QB spiking the ball on every play!
Fun fact the fords bought the lion on this day
@@user-hs7qf5vv2nMark my words. If/When the Lions are making a deep playoff run, reaching the Conference Finals or even the Super Bowl, it will get major national/international news attention. It would rival say the 2016 Cubs and or 2017 Eagles with franchises that has been around for well over a century trying to end a long championship drought.
Some people like to sit at home dwell on the negative and just be miserable. Then they get butt hurt when others would rather go out and be distracted for a little bit. Imagine getting mad that someone wanted to try and not be stressed for a few hours when you didn’t.
Lawrence of Arabia won 7 Oscars in 1963.
The Cowboys were playing in Cleveland on the 24 November 1963. I've read stories about some of the Dallas players being afraid to take the field due to the hostility of the fans.
They had to keep their helmets on while on the sidelines because fans were throwing stuff at them. As if the players had anything to to with the assassination but they did represent the city where it happened.
@@daboys1215 As another commenter pointed out, the PA announcer at Cleveland Stadium that day referred to the team only as "the Cowboys" for the entirety of the game, refusing to call them "Dallas" as if to distance them from the city.
The name "Dallas" was blipped out of the movie "Dr. Strangelove," and the word "Vegas" was substituted by Slim Pickens.
IOW, the NFL wanted to follow circus tradition of "the show must go on."
Pete Rozelle didn't just regret his decision years later. He regretted it almost immediately. He got his clocked cleaned physically by a fan at the game on the Sunday after the assassination. And as far as I know he took it like a man. It was a story recounted countless times in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 which is why I remember it
Hmm 2 things that could only happen with government involvement are the two biggest “security breeches” in u.s. history crazy how that works
@@david-468 pearl harbor was just as big of a security breech.
@@stevenbauer4799 oh another one the government had prior knowledge of but wanted to let happen, what a surprise lol
@@david-468 lol. jap subs penetrated the harbour to get the lay-out prior to attack as jap letter to fdr mysteriously arrives seven hrs. later..
@@stevenbauer4799The Packers and Bears played on the day of the Pear Harbor attack
A somber day indeed, sixty years ago.. Even tho I’m not a baby boomer
The Lions were at Minnesota on the 24th. Vikings won 34-31. Only 28,000 showed up.
I would think that 28,000 would be a good crowd when the Lions were the visiting team. Oh wait . . . we weren't that bad . . . yet.
I have to wonder how much the ego of the marching band director played a part in this. As someone who used to be in an orchestra, there've been stories and experiences of many a conductor who were bound and determined to play what they were scheduled to play, when they were scheduled to play it for no real reason other than feeling like an authority figure over the kids in their care. Maybe he pushed on over the objections of Rozelle, Reeves, and everyone else due to a stubborn desire to not look any less powerful than before.
Had the Cowboys had a home game that weekend, the week's games would have for sure been postponed.
A worse choice for music from a motion picture would be "Camelot."
This video also has a context link on it from Encyclopedia Brittanica. JG9, did you put that on?
Nope. It’s automatically put on every video talking about the assassination. I’ve noticed the same thing happens with videos on 9/11
I’m glad you brought up Beatlemania.
I guarantee you that had the rams let the marching band play Beatles songs in the middle of beatlemania instead of Lawrence of Arabia, it would’ve made it even worse and even more tasteless
Few if any of the people in the Coliseum that day knew who the Beatles were.
@@TPTGopher Yep. . . a year later though . . .
The AFL did the Right Thing at the time ..Rozell would later go on to say it was his Worse mistake ever as Commissioner . Incredibly 3 years later the AFL forced the NFL to Merge rest is history!
12:15 😎
Trap queen is great lol
Knowing that the President was a big football fan, I can kind of understand Roselle's decision. I'm a huge game show fan, and if I were the President and died in office, I might want my fellow game show fans to be able to watch the game shows they expected to see. (And believe me, you do NOT want to be a station manager when daytime programs get pre-empted!)
Do you know that from experience?
@@TimmyTickle I've heard it from people who work at local stations.
Hey, Since you'd be the guy to give the nuanced well researched look on this, Can you give an objective look on Scott Mitchell's QB run with The Lions? Since the Barry Sanders Documentary and Mitchell now saying he was thrown under the bus as a scapegoat.
People forget from 1959-1965 the Rams had losing seasons and because of Television games begain to be Blackout in LA back then and neeed anything to keep people coming
That was what I thought you would do when I suggested this video-very well done 0-I did not know this about the rams and yes it was the worst idea they ever made-at least the afl made father the right decision to cancel the games compared to the nfl !😮😮
Considering that most of the owners at the time were either lifelong or former intelligence officers or agents, the planners of the assassination were at the Cowboy's owners family home the night before, including the father and brother of the founder of the AFL who also had a meeting with Jack Ruby in their office days beforehand.
On the non conspiratorial business side, once the AFL said they weren't playing, the NFL realized that they had an entire nation as a captive audience as they would be the only ones outside of the Dallas municipal jail offering anything of interest to the millions of people who had been watching news reports since Friday afternoon, they were going to be the only show in all the towns. The Rams had just the year before been repurchased by Dan Reeves in an NFL mandated auction due to the three main shareholders inability to resolve their personal grudges. Reeves had previously sold 2/3 ownership out of desperation due to mounting losses which first drove him to move the team from Cleveland to Los Angeles originally. The team was still struggling to make money and now Reeves had paid more to repurchase his shares than he had sold them for, and outbid his former partners $7.1m to $6.1m showing the sizable difference in value the sides shared and to even afford that he had to raise funds by promising investors stake in 49% of the team if his bid was successful. So in other words, Reeves and the Rams needed the cash and there was no way that they were canceling a home game against Johnny Unitas and the Colts who were sure to draw a crowd, and considering the timing, I would say pulling an attendance of over 48,000 when the season average was 38,000 justified the decision. Regularly drawing crowds double that size just a few years earlier the downturn of the teams on field performance led to a very stereotypically Los Angeles attendance crash and the massive LA Colosseum was now hosting games with 70% empty seats which we all know does not play well in hollywood. Oh, and speaking of hollywood, who were most of the investors that now owned half of the Rams? Hollywood investors. What movie had been released the year before and won 7 oscars? Lawrence of Arabia. The movie was so popular that at the time of this game, a year after its release the film was still being screened to such demand that tickets had to be pre reserved. In other words, Lawrence was kind of a big deal, especially in Los Angeles. So to go back to my original point, the NFL seeing a big weekend to themselves with the AFL halting play, and especially the struggling Rams were not going to cancel games also faced an additional dilemma that the AFL did not. Delay the season and hold the championship for the first time in January. At the time the host was determined on a rotating basis between divisions. In 1963 the West was to host both games which was fine for the AFL since at the time San Diego and Oakland were well ahead and virtually assured of hosting that game. The NFL on the other hand, was staring at a near certainty that they would be holding their championship game in either Chicago or Green Bay. So for the AFL sure, no problem, we have no issues pushing the season back with San Diego not only not being a problem, but a bonus for potential fans from Boston or Buffalo looking for a new years vacation option. The NFL had no such sunny option since we know how the Rams season was going, and the only other possible warmish, to everyone back east that is, chance was San Francisco. The 2 win 49er's did not help the scenario. So faced with cold and windy or cold and even colder, pushing back the NFL season was not really much of an option but an idea was sparked due to the television blackout. To get around local blackout restrictions for the Championship game being held in Chicago, as well as make up for the extra attendence executives had hoped for by hosting the game at the much larger Soldier Field later in the day which was shut down by George Halas keeping the game at the smaller wrigley field and forced into an earlier start time due to the lack of lights the league decided to offer a new alternative to fans who wanted to see the game without sitting in the upper deck of an already old and decrepit baseball stadium when it was 10 degrees outside. Closed circuit viewing at indoor arenas around the city. 26,000 plus showed up at 4 locations to partake in the nfl's first foray into pay-per-view. As for the games, well the well rested Chargers decimated the Patriots in front of a home crowd that looked as though noone had told San Diego that the season had not in fact ended weeks earlier. The NFL had the opposite result as they not only circumvented blackout restrictions in the nations second largest market at the time with the closed circut events, but the league offices dream matchup between Chicago and New York did not dissapoint as the Bears knocked Y.A. Tittle out of the game on two seperate occasions only for him to heroicly reenter the game minutes later due to the magic of cortisone, novicane and lots of tape. Unfortunatly for the giants, they may have been better off with a quarterback who was not made of steel and gunpowder as the bears intercepted 5 passes with the final one coming in the end zone with 10 seconds to play, preserving a hard fought and brutal defensive battle 14-10 on a frozen baseball field. This assuredly was not a day where even Ernie Banks would have said, let's play two.
Also, since an hour before the first kickoffs of the day Lee Harvey Oswald was shot by Jack Ruby I don't think anyone who was not in attendance really cared what was going on at these non televised games. And those who were obviously were not overly concerned with anything outside the stadium.
6:34-6:41 Look at all of those Empty Seats for that game?
It's the LA Coliseum... it always looks part-empty due to its massive capacity
@@TimmyTickle Yeah, it's not The Big House in Ann Arbor.😁
To sidetrack things a bit I like to hear how the Rams at Cards game in most of ARZ got blacked out for the first time since the 1980’s or 1990’s?
Maybe the high school band would've been better off playing "Louie, Louie" instead.
“The episode of Band Geeks”.
Band Geeks was the name of the episode
How about the Cowboys vs Browns game at the same time in 1963
At least they didn't play 'louie louie' like the band stepping over Ricardo monantabalns corpse in the naked gun..
Who is Vanessa Carlin?
Vanessa CARLTON; she's a modern pop singer who had a hit song that had the lyric, .."and I would travel a thousand miles.."
I bet it's no surprise on why the game between the Colts and the Rams at LA was like not in full capacity (which would not be televised locally in the LA area under blackout rules), due to the unfortunate assassination of JFK. Which would almost be similar to what occured in San Francisco about a decade and a half later when their own mayor was shot and been unalived, yet the NFL still went to keep going with their game between the 49ers and the then-defending SB champ Steelers at Candlestick Park. But regardless, whether the league would acknowledge or not about any tragic incident, they went the apathetic move from a business standpoint and kept going with the games as planned, without any question asked at all.
@@user-hs7qf5vv2n I have footage of super bowl 1 and (of the rams vs colts this day) it is wild to see that even with seats still not full they had over 60k attending the super bowl.
It would have made sense to have the hs band play the national anthem, so their trip was not in vain. Then keep the halftime show music-less as Roselle ordered.
This is very similar to what happened in the Premier League in 1997 a few days after Princess Diana was killed in a car crash in Paris. Unlike many of the UK's sporting leagues who flat out cancelled all games/races, the Premier League decided to carry on with that weekend's matches mainly because like this they wanted to give people a distraction & sense of normalcy. As a way of honoring Princess Diana & to acknowledge what happened, before every match that weekend, there would be a moment of silence followed by a minute's applause and a lot of what JG9 mentioned about festivities would apply here as well especially when it came to music during warm ups. However during the Man United-Derby County match, Man United decided to play pop music during not only the pre game warm ups but also at halftime as a way of "getting the supporters hyped for the match" even though the Premier League explicitly told them not to. There may be another reason why this happened as Man United at the time were owned by Rupert Murdoch who also owned the Sun newspaper. The Sun & the Royal Family were engaged in a bitter feud at the time over how the Sun covered them & Princess Diana's death only escalated things. The playing of the pop music by Man United was seen by many as not only as very disrespectful but also Rupert Murdoch's way of giving the middle finger to the Royal Family. Man United were fined 100,000 pounds each by both the Premier League & the English FA for playing the pop music. To further show how angry people in the UK were about this, there were even some in the UK government that wanted to throw Rupert Murdoch in prison for this stunt & for Sky Sports/News (a Rupert Murdoch owned station) to be taken off the air. This is easily one of the worst moments in Man United's history.
Man United were eventually bought by Malcolm Glazer (the same Malcolm Glazer who made the Bucs a respectable franchise) a few years later.
Under Glazer ownership, Man United's fortunes went in the opposite direction to the Bucs.
Lions 60 year curse began that day. Thanks fords, In retrospect rozelle made an ill fated decision he took to the grave with him. Rival afl who nfl mocked and laughed at had their shit together and did not play that sunday. With no big tv $$$'s at stake and no games televised a puzzling decision. Greedy nfl/owners must have wanted some gate that day. Players said they didn't want to play that day yet played with a heavy heart. And as players got ready to play that day ruby walked unchecked into dpd to shoot/silence LHO. 'I'm just a patsy'. Today''s players are too overcome to play when a player goes down with a hang nail. Plus nfl had no problem 'postponing' games for pokes sake in '20. Even cancelled a game last season due to injury. Total nfl hypocrisy today. Totally different era now. nfl would find some way to ca$h in on jfk assassination today like they do with military/vets day which is just paid advertising for nfl who doesn't really care about america/vets as they let america haters use games to spit on america. You notice players are now walking advertizing during games as radical agendas appear in the end zones. nfl still had a soul in '63, just made a bone head decision. nfl has no soul anymore, it has been corrupted. F you nfl.
They may break the curse this year
@@ABCEasyas-- they could. or world will end when lions near a s b-the apocalypse. that could happen too.
?Army vs Navy next video?
Nobody remembers what they were doing or where they were at on November 24th 1963.
This has the vibe of Chicken Fried Ukraine
I’ll probably be blasted for saying this…but context is in order here. Many college football games were played the day AFTER the assassination, esp. in the South. And while the NY Philharmonic cut short their concert on the day of JFK getting killed, they went through w/a tribute concert on Nov. 24. This idea that the NFL was acting as a tone deaf, lone wolf by offering entertainment during this time…is flat out FALSE! And finally, while Rozelle pondered whether to go through with the 11/24 schedule, it was none other than JFK press secretary Pierre Salinger, encouraging him to play the games, to offer the public a diversion from the tragedy.
I was really hoping you went deep into a conspiracy theory then talked about football for like the last couple minutes. Lol
02:37 there’s nothing insensitive about a football game. Here’s the bottom line and it applies even until now. I mean if you think it shouldn’t have been played then it’s simple don’t watch or pay attention. Don’t get butthurt that other people thought differently and wanted to go and be distracted. I mean after all there was a reason it set attendance records and honestly I think Rozelle only considered it a mistake because people complained that were butt hurt and because of the wanted to control other peoples lives that weren’t. Because that’s what it all boils down to even to this day. People upset and wanting to control others that don’t think they way they do. It’s actually a pathetic way to think. Mad someone does something you don’t think they should. It breaks the golden rule. Doing to others what you wouldn’t want done to you.
Can't be too surprised honestly because California is one of if not the most liberal states in the country and the Democratic Party (JFK's party) was the conservatives (fascists) at the time. Honestly surprised they didn't boo the moment of silence and most Californians like all liberal states were probably celebrating the assassination. I know people in very conservative (fascist) Texas and all other conservative states would celebrate a liberal president like Biden's assassination if one happened so I have to assume Californian's and New Mexican's two very liberal states celebrated Kennedy's assassination.
BTW was a band in New Mexico playing there instead of Dallas, Houston, or Denver.
Also why did they not fly out like normal people, because there were plenty of airplanes by the 60's.
JFK was a war hero so the war film song fit him well.
I don't know anything about how my home state (Massachusetts) reacted to the JFK assassination but we are the most liberal state in the country so I assume we had ticker tape parades and people spraying champagne in the streets celebrating his death. I know for a fact our whole state would have if Trump was assassinated so I assume we would have for a different conservative like JFK was assassinated.
Wasn't CA a lot more conservative in those days? (in fact, the GOP held their 1964 convention in San Francisco, something that would be unthinkable today)
@@TimmyTickle the GOP was the liberal party until the civil rights act so you made my point exactly
With 9 11 sport in America was on hold for over a week and half. So no repeat of this reoccurring . Also to have 2 videos on the same subject shows how this changed the climate❤ in America 👍🙈🙉🙊
And you are calling out rams for this? Man nfl should have never been playing that sunday. No way to prepare for the unforseen circumstances. Irony-ram rosey greir was a rfk bodyguard who tried to save bobby after shooting in la of all places six years later. '60's became very turbulant times after jfk assasination. Assasinations became rampant-the norm. Like the song said 'when a leader speaks, that leader dies'. Beatlemania began roughly six weeks later to soothe america's battered soul even though the trust of g'vmt by americans was now shit. And jfk meddling in the mob thanks to att. general bobby got jfk killed. They broke their promise to cuban mob boss santo trafficante and others to lay off the mob who helped get jfk elected. Old man joe's mob ties bought the chicago vote to put jfk over the top in election. To the surprise of many the next a m. And the dallas end including changing the route jfk took thru dallas at last minute was on texan lbj's end including letting 'mobster' ruby just walk into dpd unchecked and shoot LHO who was indeed a 'patsie'. Who stops to get a coke after shooting the president? Only a patsie does.
I don’t see the big deal
You mean Thunder 103093 the song selection by that New Mexico High School band at the Rams game the Sunday after the JFK Murder? Or playing games league wide as scheduled that same weekend? While I personally think the NFL should have postponed that Sunday on 11/24/63 and push the season back a week, at least playing that weekend was a much more fair argument. So I agree with Jag here. The High School band playing that song on that day was almost as tasteless as playing “Another Bites The Dust” at someone’s funeral. 😞
@@americangiant1003 i dont care about either
@@Thunder103093 You aren't old enough. If you were alive, or aware enough then, you like 99% of the Americans then would still care today.
You are just trying to get noticed by being controversial. I know. I used to think I was more important than I really was and did such things to get attention. Then I grew up. Hopefully, you will too someday.
@@DDS029 no, i just want to watch football so I don’t see it as an issue that the games were played & since I don’t play attention or care about halftime shows, I don’t care what the song is played or whatever, im not saying it to be edgy, i just want to watch football no matter what is going on cause i love the sport
JFK would want us to play on! it's how we heal! JG9 shouldn't be a TH-camr, he should be on a future episode of My 600 lbs Life aka My Life As A Fat Fuck!! LMAO
15:33 JG9 going WAH WAH WAH! maybe this is why won't be married and have no kids!! Attitudes like this is one reason