I am a Chicago native, and have been a Bears' fan since 1965. There is one thing that I have maintained since his entry into the league in 1975, the best Bears' Defensive player, ever, was #34, Walter Payton. For the bulk of his career, and in the 1985 season, in particular, a game featuring Walter led to the Bears' dominating time of possession. The Bears' Defense only had to, actually, defend, a fraction of the time over opponents. Kept fresher, they were able to maintain a high pressure/high energy defensive scheme. And with the Bears dominating possessions, opponents had much less opportunity to score. This was all down to giving the ball to #34, who churned up first downs, even when everyone in the stadium knew who was going to get the ball. I hear 21st century coaches excuse abandoning the run game because "the opponent had 8 in the box", Against the Bears of the era, teams could have had 12 guys in the damn box, if you count the Umpire, and Walter still ran over, stiff-armed, and dragged his way to first down, after first down. Yes, there were some stellar individuals on the '85 Bears' D, but, IMO, Payton towered above them all in who affected the outcomes, Offensively, and Defensively.
Basically a pick-up game for the Bears. Fun fact: Wayne Capers, the Colt WR who caught the lone TD (on his one reception for the game), turns 63 today. Happy Birthday.
Johnny Unitas has a lot of jokes, but it’s hard to top him saying he’s the quarterback for the Colts. I love that JaguarGator9 has a whole video on this moment, and it’s so funny how they don’t even know who the Colts are. This is definitely the craziest story about the 1985 Bears.
The Bears knew they were playing the Colts. They just had no idea who was playing for them that year. I can understand to an extent because those Colts weren't what you'd call memorable. Nice nugget about the '85 Bears!
I would not have guessed this... but at only a 7 pt margin of victory, that was the 3rd-closest game the Bears played all year. Loss to Miami, 16-10 over Green Bay, and then 17-10 over Indy. The 85 Colts actually have something to be proud of!
They were being sarcastic. They had just lost to Miami and recorded the SB shuffle. This was the entire team talking sh** to Indy. I was there, I'm old. :)
They were definitely being sarcastic. Leslie Frasier is a sharp guy. There's no way he thought Johnny Unitas was the starting QB. (Johnny U had been retired for 14 seasons and was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1979.) I'd call this clickbait, but it's still interesting because the Bears were that cocky.
@@matthewdaley746dude, there’s a reason people still talk about them while most don’t even remember what “the Hogs” even were. In fact, i highly doubt most football fans even realize that the Skins have actually won 3 titles, let alone remember them.
@@matthewdaley746 18-1 underachievers with a championship? Is that really the hill you want to die on here? Maybe if there’d been a players strike along there path you’d see things differently?
Those were very dark times in Colts history since the move. Not until 1987 they had a winning record since the Ghost of the Post. Some incompetent coaching and front office. (Mike Mccormick, frank who shouldve stayed at ASU Kush, and Rob Dowhower)
If the Colts had never hired Frank Kush, they might have convinced John Elway to stay with the team. It would have nullified this video, made the game much more interesting, and could have changed the landscape of the AFC East for a decade and a half. Three Hall of Famers from the same QB class in the same division! Maybe the 1987 Colts win the Super Bowl with Elway and Eric Dickerson? It's fun to ponder.
When your best player is punter Rohn Stark and even he's getting tackled, you suck. And it's Jimbo CO-vert, like covert operation, not CUH-vert, like cover band.
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Reminds me of what Tom Landry said about the Dolphins no name defense of the early 1970s I don't know any of their names but they play good defense. However in case of the 85 Bears this is way worse because it sounds like it to me that none of them were paying attention to film of the Colts. Also the 85 bears defense reminds me of the 1974 Steelers Defense because they both set SB Records by allowing the fewest Rushing yards in the big game.
The Bears were too consumed with recording "Super Bowl Shuffle" that week leading up to the Colts. After the loss in Miami on Monday Night Football, the Bears recorded Super Bowl Shuffle the next day on Tuesday. To be fair, the Bears priorities were right. No one remembers this game against the Colts. People are still talking about and still know the words to "Super Bowl Shuffle" almost 40 years later.
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I remember the good old days when defenses were measured by the record of the team the week after they played. Teams that played the 84-86 Bears and the Reggie White lead Eagles always had stupid records like 3-13.....probably because most of the time, teams had to play backup QBs that week.
as heavy Bears fan then (still now) many top performers: McMahon able to rifle a pass while he at a full sprint to Willie Gault (Olympic Champion). Leslie Fraiser, #1 cover man allows more "up front" players defence = 46 D. Dominant D ends, in your backfield, etc., etc.
Should have called Robert Irsay by what everyone knew him as, the Stumbling drunk of an owner. Also, I feel that Lax Hall of Famer Bill Belichick and Marcelo Bielsa would get along well. El Loco (Bielsa) demanded the same level of knowledge about the opponent as Belichick did. El loco would quiz players the day before games and if you failed, you're out of the line up.
"Exposed". That's why they aren't the GOAT defense. They didn't just lose a game. The nature of the Dolphins' win illustrated a schematic weakness in the 46. It was a gambling defense vulnerable to big plays and required some luck to dodge enough bullets to win a championship. Against Miami their luck ran out, as it would more frequently all the other seasons Chicago used Ryan's defense. They were fun to watch though. The GOAT defense, in my opinion, would be a balanced, fundamentally sound one that was great in all phases and didn't rely on blitzers for a pass rush. Doomsday, Steel Curtain, Ravens, etc.. That's because such a defense would hypothetically be more likely to have consistent success against opponents from different seasons and eras.
Every defensive scheme has a flaw. Buddy’s 46 worked because of gambling with top talent. The Bears loss was not solely the result of Marino’s quick read/release. The Dolphins had a couple of lucky bounces in that MNF game. Everyone wanted to see the rematch in the Super Bowl, but the Dolphins blew it against the Pats. Meanwhile the Bears had back to back playoff shut outs. They gave up 10 points in the bowl. If Payton had not fumbled early, leading to a field goal. I think the team would have made an extraordinary effort to get another shut out
Has jaguar covered the 76 Steelers defense? Their final 9 regular season games were by far the greatest in nfl history. They had a sb hangover and started 1-4 before their historic finish.
@@matthewdaley746 1st game of the season. It was a rather fluky loss and they went into a tailspin until they realized that they had to go undefeated to make the playoffs. The offense was dreadful with Bradshaw missing a lot of games but franco and rocky held it down both rushing for over 1000 yds. They destroyed my Colts in the playoffs.
@@matthewdaley746 The steelers from 72-79 were as consistent as they come. That’s why they’re considered the team of the decade even though Miami had an undefeated season. The steel curtain was getting old by the late 70s and even though the Steelers turned the ball over more than any team in the nfl in 79 that’s when Bradshaw finally became a good qb
@@matthewdaley746 Yes, that’s why they’re called the team of the 70s not 80s I didn’t watch much football in the 80s I was getting older and messing with a lot of girls and didn’t really get back into it until 89 or 90 when I started betting on the games. All the steeler greats were long retired and the Colts were long gone by then.
Hopefully we can get a video about that run. Jaguar makes good videos and I’d love to learn some hidden gems about how they only allowed 28 points in 9 games with 8/9 being 6 pts or less. The media must have been going crazy back then .
What I remember about this game was that afterwards somebody on the Bears said the Colts' defensive front seven "was better than Miami's" which was a lame passive-aggressive shot that just made them seem like bitter whiners to me.
Yeah because their offense stunk without Jim McMahon and Peyton can only do so much and McMahon was the unluckiest player on the Bears because it looked like he always had a target on his back before 1985 and after 1985 which caused him to get inured.
Um, they were 2nd in scoring that season. In '85 they WERE a great team. The problem was, that socring outburst was a fluke. The '86 Bears actually allowed fewer points but the offense scored a whopping 104 less. In fact, the '85 team is still the highest scoring in Bears franchise history which covers a LOT of seasons.
I am a Chicago native, and have been a Bears' fan since 1965. There is one thing that I have maintained since his entry into the league in 1975, the best Bears' Defensive player, ever, was #34, Walter Payton. For the bulk of his career, and in the 1985 season, in particular, a game featuring Walter led to the Bears' dominating time of possession. The Bears' Defense only had to, actually, defend, a fraction of the time over opponents. Kept fresher, they were able to maintain a high pressure/high energy defensive scheme. And with the Bears dominating possessions, opponents had much less opportunity to score. This was all down to giving the ball to #34, who churned up first downs, even when everyone in the stadium knew who was going to get the ball. I hear 21st century coaches excuse abandoning the run game because "the opponent had 8 in the box", Against the Bears of the era, teams could have had 12 guys in the damn box, if you count the Umpire, and Walter still ran over, stiff-armed, and dragged his way to first down, after first down. Yes, there were some stellar individuals on the '85 Bears' D, but, IMO, Payton towered above them all in who affected the outcomes, Offensively, and Defensively.
Facts
1985 Colts: "You took EVERYTHING from me!"
1985 Bears: "I don't even know who you are!"
As a Bears fan who was a freshman in high school in 1985, I can name one player on the Colts: Michael Pagel. That’s it
As a 12-year old DolFan I don't know if I could've named a single player on their D at the time.
I am always in favor of more Bears content
Boy! That was the funniest part of the story-the answer about Johnny Unitas I smiled at because he was already retired at that time! 😂😂😂😂
Basically a pick-up game for the Bears.
Fun fact: Wayne Capers, the Colt WR who caught the lone TD (on his one reception for the game), turns 63 today. Happy Birthday.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
Johnny Unitas has a lot of jokes, but it’s hard to top him saying he’s the quarterback for the Colts. I love that JaguarGator9 has a whole video on this moment, and it’s so funny how they don’t even know who the Colts are. This is definitely the craziest story about the 1985 Bears.
To be fair, Johnny Unitas at age 52 was probably still a better quarterback than anyone the Colts had at the position in 1985.
The Bears knew they were playing the Colts. They just had no idea who was playing for them that year. I can understand to an extent because those Colts weren't what you'd call memorable. Nice nugget about the '85 Bears!
The Johnny Unitas part of this story is WILD!!!!!
He's not entirely wrong but Fresher forgot that Unitas had long sinced retired.
Can you imagine how huge of a upset this game would had been if the Colts did win against the Bears.
I would not have guessed this... but at only a 7 pt margin of victory, that was the 3rd-closest game the Bears played all year. Loss to Miami, 16-10 over Green Bay, and then 17-10 over Indy. The 85 Colts actually have something to be proud of!
Leslie Frazier could have at least said Bert Jones(He left a few years prior) 😂😂😂
They were being sarcastic. They had just lost to Miami and recorded the SB shuffle. This was the entire team talking sh** to Indy. I was there, I'm old. :)
I can see one or two having this level of sarcasm. This looks like genuine ignorance of the 1985 Colts.
They were definitely being sarcastic. Leslie Frasier is a sharp guy. There's no way he thought Johnny Unitas was the starting QB. (Johnny U had been retired for 14 seasons and was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1979.)
I'd call this clickbait, but it's still interesting because the Bears were that cocky.
@@matthewdaley746 True enough. It made for a fun year though.
@@matthewdaley746dude, there’s a reason people still talk about them while most don’t even remember what “the Hogs” even were. In fact, i highly doubt most football fans even realize that the Skins have actually won 3 titles, let alone remember them.
@@matthewdaley746 18-1 underachievers with a championship? Is that really the hill you want to die on here? Maybe if there’d been a players strike along there path you’d see things differently?
Those were very dark times in Colts history since the move. Not until 1987 they had a winning record since the Ghost of the Post. Some incompetent coaching and front office. (Mike Mccormick, frank who shouldve stayed at ASU Kush, and Rob Dowhower)
85 Bears are the best Defense of all time. They're the measuring stick.
@@matthewdaley746 still doesn't refute my point that when any defense becomes real good, they're compared to the '85 Bears. Nice try though
If the Colts had never hired Frank Kush, they might have convinced John Elway to stay with the team. It would have nullified this video, made the game much more interesting, and could have changed the landscape of the AFC East for a decade and a half. Three Hall of Famers from the same QB class in the same division! Maybe the 1987 Colts win the Super Bowl with Elway and Eric Dickerson? It's fun to ponder.
When your best player is punter Rohn Stark and even he's getting tackled, you suck.
And it's Jimbo CO-vert, like covert operation, not CUH-vert, like cover band.
By 1985, he was known as Jim Covert.
I wonder what scores Bill Swerski's Superfans predicted for this one.
😂😂 300-0 at the half
Bears 96. Colts 14
It'snot gonna be dat close!
Dat's the halftime score, my friend!
And that's with the rest of duh Bears out sick and Coach Ditka playing by himself !
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With internet and social media a situation like this probably will never happen again
Reminds me of what Tom Landry said about the Dolphins no name defense of the early 1970s I don't know any of their names but they play good defense. However in case of the 85 Bears this is way worse because it sounds like it to me that none of them were paying attention to film of the Colts. Also the 85 bears defense reminds me of the 1974 Steelers Defense because they both set SB Records by allowing the fewest Rushing yards in the big game.
The Bears were too consumed with recording "Super Bowl Shuffle" that week leading up to the Colts. After the loss in Miami on Monday Night Football, the Bears recorded Super Bowl Shuffle the next day on Tuesday.
To be fair, the Bears priorities were right. No one remembers this game against the Colts. People are still talking about and still know the words to "Super Bowl Shuffle" almost 40 years later.
@@matthewdaley746 I like that I can actually see your comments for a change 😊
14-year-old me, "No wonder they played like garbage (on offense)!" 😅
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Sadly Als is killing him and when he died sadly he is going to have CTE.
I remember the good old days when defenses were measured by the record of the team the week after they played. Teams that played the 84-86 Bears and the Reggie White lead Eagles always had stupid records like 3-13.....probably because most of the time, teams had to play backup QBs that week.
as heavy Bears fan then (still now) many top performers: McMahon able to rifle a pass while he at a full sprint to Willie Gault (Olympic Champion). Leslie Fraiser, #1 cover man allows more "up front" players defence = 46 D. Dominant D ends, in your backfield, etc., etc.
Shows how Mike Ditka’s coaching style was back then
That famous sack on Mike Pagel at 9:42 was a fumble and idiot referee called him down.
The Super Bowl Stumple 😂😂😂
In Super Bowl XX The New England Patriots would have had a WAY BETTER CHANCE of winning IF they had SPIKED the football into the GROUND 39.6 TIMES!!!
Should have called Robert Irsay by what everyone knew him as, the Stumbling drunk of an owner. Also, I feel that Lax Hall of Famer Bill Belichick and Marcelo Bielsa would get along well. El Loco (Bielsa) demanded the same level of knowledge about the opponent as Belichick did. El loco would quiz players the day before games and if you failed, you're out of the line up.
7:36 side question: Is every team guaranteed a Pro Bowler, as with MLB's All-Star Game?
No
Johnny didn’t even play in Indy. Was a bmore colt. Geeze
"Exposed". That's why they aren't the GOAT defense. They didn't just lose a game. The nature of the Dolphins' win illustrated a schematic weakness in the 46. It was a gambling defense vulnerable to big plays and required some luck to dodge enough bullets to win a championship. Against Miami their luck ran out, as it would more frequently all the other seasons Chicago used Ryan's defense. They were fun to watch though. The GOAT defense, in my opinion, would be a balanced, fundamentally sound one that was great in all phases and didn't rely on blitzers for a pass rush. Doomsday, Steel Curtain, Ravens, etc.. That's because such a defense would hypothetically be more likely to have consistent success against opponents from different seasons and eras.
Every defensive scheme has a flaw. Buddy’s 46 worked because of gambling with top talent. The Bears loss was not solely the result of Marino’s quick read/release. The Dolphins had a couple of lucky bounces in that MNF game.
Everyone wanted to see the rematch in the Super Bowl, but the Dolphins blew it against the Pats.
Meanwhile the Bears had back to back playoff shut outs. They gave up 10 points in the bowl. If Payton had not fumbled early, leading to a field goal. I think the team would have made an extraordinary effort to get another shut out
Has jaguar covered the 76 Steelers defense? Their final 9 regular season games were by far the greatest in nfl history. They had a sb hangover and started 1-4 before their historic finish.
@@matthewdaley746 1st game of the season. It was a rather fluky loss and they went into a tailspin until they realized that they had to go undefeated to make the playoffs. The offense was dreadful with Bradshaw missing a lot of games but franco and rocky held it down both rushing for over 1000 yds. They destroyed my Colts in the playoffs.
@@matthewdaley746 The steelers from 72-79 were as consistent as they come. That’s why they’re considered the team of the decade even though Miami had an undefeated season. The steel curtain was getting old by the late 70s and even though the Steelers turned the ball over more than any team in the nfl in 79 that’s when Bradshaw finally became a good qb
I’ve talked about them in part on this channel. One of the greatest defenses ever
@@matthewdaley746 Yes, that’s why they’re called the team of the 70s not 80s I didn’t watch much football in the 80s I was getting older and messing with a lot of girls and didn’t really get back into it until 89 or 90 when I started betting on the games. All the steeler greats were long retired and the Colts were long gone by then.
Hopefully we can get a video about that run. Jaguar makes good videos and I’d love to learn some hidden gems about how they only allowed 28 points in 9 games with 8/9 being 6 pts or less. The media must have been going crazy back then .
What I remember about this game was that afterwards somebody on the Bears said the Colts' defensive front seven "was better than Miami's" which was a lame passive-aggressive shot that just made them seem like bitter whiners to me.
Is Stumple a word?
No. It isn’t-it’s not in the dictionary-I looked it up! 😂😂😂😂😂
It is not
1985 Bears 🐻 a great defense but not a great team
Yeah because their offense stunk without Jim McMahon and Peyton can only do so much and McMahon was the unluckiest player on the Bears because it looked like he always had a target on his back before 1985 and after 1985 which caused him to get inured.
@@matthewdaley746 True.
The Giants beat the 49ers a few times in playoffs/championship games
Um, they were 2nd in scoring that season. In '85 they WERE a great team. The problem was, that socring outburst was a fluke. The '86 Bears actually allowed fewer points but the offense scored a whopping 104 less. In fact, the '85 team is still the highest scoring in Bears franchise history which covers a LOT of seasons.
Lots of those points were generated by the defense
now I know why the 85 bears could never repeat...too much arrogance and too many idiots from players to coaches ...one hit wonders