Best Cruising Sailboat ? Hallberg Rassy 352
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video we provide you with some insights to our lovely boat, Dory Man -a Hallberg Rassy 352 from 1986. Although not the newest nor most modern, it still provides us with all we need: safety, comfort, fun & lots of smiles.
We explore why a 35 footer is in our humble view the ideal boat for long time cruising for 2 people on a low budget. Lower maintenance, lower running coast, more fun!
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0:00 Intro
0:54 Why we bought a Hallberg Rassy
3:25 Why do we love our boat
4:44 Are there any Flaws ?
6:50 Life Bellow deck
18:30 Engine Room
20:00 Outro
Which is in your view the perfect boat for cruising?
Island Packett
the boat with your wife aboard, WOW, funny energetic knowledgeable ,and a magical
@@notwhatiwasraised2b Sounds like a good choice :) Luckily there are so many great cruising boats out there :)
Island packet, Rustler,..............hr ........koopmans.🎉
We just bought a Swan 59. I think she'll work out well.
We have been living on a 1989 HR 45 for 3 years now, and we are incredibly happy we put in the effort to restore our ship. It has been a very challenging time, but not only a very good investment. Enjoy your journey.
They are lovely boats indeed 😁
Perfect for you guys! Thank you.
Have been watching sailboat videos for year's, yours is the first that I have subscribed to. Will be watching. 45 years ago I lived aboard a 35 Morgan. What great memories.
Thank you so much for the lovely comment 😊 then it's a great honor to have you subscribed to our channel!
Haven't been on a Morgan but heard they are very similar, so must be great boat 😉
Agree. I love the Hallberg Rassy. We have one on order.
This 352 is one of my favourites. We owned a Scanmar 35 for 10 years. Very similar, almost identical apart from a fin keel. Also built in Sweden on the same island where the HR originate. We sailed Europe for several years and lived on board. I made two solo atlantic crossings and with my wife we sailed the Caribian and the I C W up to Kingston NY. I absolutely confirm that this HR352 is ideal for cruising with two persons. I wish I was still 10 years younger. Enjoy it, s the best time of your life.
Hi Geen, Thanks for the comment :) The Scanmar 35 sounds amazing, so does the adventures you had with Her ;) Guess every strong boat of similar size can do pretty amazing stuff :)
Fair Winds :)
I had a 352 for 19 years! One of my favourite boats ever. It just feels so confident and reassuring at sea. And cosy in the cabin when moored. I only sold it because the teak deck was reaching the end of its life and I couldn't face spending silly money to replace it. As for reversing it, I didn't have a problem once I realised you just have to give it some throttle - get it moving through the water and it steers OK in reverse.
Hi Peter! Yes definitely a great boat, 19 years is a long time! Totally agree with the teak deck, we have spent quite a few hours maintaining it and it doesn't get better :(. One day it might have to go, deck re-enforced with a layer of fiberglass and with some kiwi grip should do the trick! We have found that the only way to reverse is indeed by picking up speed and ideally shifting to neutral...part of that is that we have quite a big propeller, creating a big prop walk...
We have a Hallberg-Rassy 352 #305, and we love her, despite not being able to steer while backing up. She always turns while in reverse, but we never know which way it will be.
She is a great boat, but indeed reversing isn't her strong card, although we have found that enough momentum and out of gear she does steer a little ...if lucky and rather calm ...
Awesome boat & coolly presented
Thank you very much 😊🙏
I totally agree with your choise for the 352. I have a 352 myself. Perfect ship. And also a very nice owners association in The Netherlands and UK.
Thanks for your comment! They are great boats indeed 😊 where are you located? We plan to sail north this season so perhaps going to pass both the UK and Netherlands 😁
@@sailingAGH I am located at Almere (markermeer). I am sailing to the uk this summer with our Hallberg Rassy Connection
Looks an amazing sailboat personality I have a 2016 Beneteau 46.1 that’s also built for cruising but also for racing as well.
Very nice boat too, a bit newer and modern 😉 must sail quite fast especially in lighter winds !
Great walk through. We love our 352. Reversing is always an adventure into the unknown. They do not belong in a marina but are best on anchor or bouy. Definitely a 2+2 but very cosy and safe even in 40 knots on the nose. Will subscribe and follow.
Thanks guys for hoping along 🙂 well said it's an adventure boat, nothing for harbours! Yes we had a couple strong nights at anchor and never a problem!
See you out there 😁
Greetings!
Good choice. I own a similar one(Hunter 33.6). Luxury and extra room for nothing are commonly desired for new sailors but reality is further more. Thank you for sharing your optimal perfection.
Thanks for the comment 😊 couldn't agree more, new designs seems to be mostly addressing weekend sailors with limited time 😁 anyway each one has their own needs and priorities 😉
Liking the dry humor. The boat also not bad. Subbed.
Thanks mate 😁
Thank you for doing a walkthrough! I put a bid in on a 352 and need to show my wife what I’ve done.
Congratulations! Sincerely hope you get it, it's an awesome boat and your wife will love it, in fact everyone does - or nearly everyone ;)
Are you still satisfied with your choice of boat?
You two are fabulous . I have subscribed .
Thank you very much 👍 glad to have you on board ☺️
Goed schip,al lang uit de productie dus revit maar dan heb je een perfect schip om te cruisen.veel plezier .
Indeed, needs some TLC but then she will pay you back ;)
Nice video guys!
Thanks team Esperanza!
I had a HR38 and I have to say, that it is really hard to go backwards with it. It taks miles to react on the rudder by going backwards.
That little dog is a darling! And what's not to like about an HR?! (even though I've only ever sailed aboard one, also a 35, a Rasmus built 1979.)
Thank you for your comment 😁 he is indeed! Yes HRs are pretty damn good, the Rasmus is also a very beautiful boat, perhaps a bit more old school on the design, while the HR 352 kinda of combines the classic older design with newer touches :)
This is my dream. Boat
Thanks for your comment! It's a great boat, there are always a few up for sale ;)
Nice video guys
Glad you enjoyed it
You are so right, having a 42e ketch same problem, forward wonderful, backwards a nightmare. Massive propwalk, steering nearly impossible and when it starts turn it's nearly unstoppable. Would also appreciate any hints.
And thank you so much for your entertaining videos. I am a big fan.
Thanks for your comment, its reassuring that others have the same problem :) for us its certainly also a luck of practice, but although there are some tricks to get her to obey, I believe that in certain conditions we would never be able to nail a reverse med mooring in a busy spot, better anchor elsewhere :)
@@sailingAGH we now started to moore her with bow first, much easier, if mooring lines are available
@@sailingAGH Got a HR 382, and while reversing is trouble, with a short boost and then go the idle, you can steer without propwalk. But it stays difficult. And if your nose goes away, you have to go forward to point the nose in the right direction.
If you center the rudder put the boost in reverse. The stern will “walk” to one side. When reversing the boat put the rudder hard over the other way. Reverse slowly and straighten the rudder out as you gain speed. It’s easy with a little practice. Overall I think you have a beautiful boat.
Thanks Howard,
Yes indeed this mostly works, we still need practice, but doubt it will ever work all to well with the wrong cross winds. Often we find a hard correction forward is needed to set the direction !
@@sailingAGH Once you get use to it you will learn ho to use it to your advantage. If it is really a problem (shouldn’t be) you can change the prop out to feathering prop. The blades will reverse themselves when in reverse. The other advantage is less drag when sailing. Perhaps 1/4 knot. If you are only doing short sails it of no value. If you are doing many days out at a time it can add up. a 1/4 knot equals 6 knts a day. One week at sea equals 42 knots more distance. In other words if you average 6 knots you shorten that trip by 7 hours.
Give it full throttle until the rudder becomes alive and back off on it-to get the momentum for reverse.
Thank you for the fun video. I also have a HR352 and love it. I can’t comment on it as a cruiser because we’ve only been on short trips so far.
I wondered if you made the seats on the stern pulpit? Mine does not have them but I would love to know how they are attached so I can build them.
Good luck with the rest of your adventures. I’ll be watching along.
Thanks for your comment 😁
Yes she is great for short and long 😁 and even for live aboard 👍
I think the seats are original but not sure, if you drop us an email on our website or email we can sent you some pictures of it !
Fair winds and see you out there 😊
I made such seats, bolted them through the pulpit.
my hr 39 doesn't go wonderfully in reverse but if you keep it fairly slow and use the bow thrusters to steer, you will have some chance of getting where you need to go.
Hi, thanks for your comment :) There seems to be plenty of ways, none is really perfect, but yes before we decommissioned our bow thruster your way was working quite well ! Now we try gaining quite some momentum in reverse, then going into neutral, then she actually listens quite well to the rudder, that is if the conditions are light ;)
Fair Winds
I saw one for about £32k, it looked really good except the teak decking needed replacing
That sounds like quite a good deal! The teak deck is a big project, either it's really bad and needs removing/replacing or it still has some sufficient thickness to it, in which case you can re-caulk it and replace screw plugs. If it doesn't have sufficient thickness you can remove it entirely and either apply anti skit surface or replace deck with teak, cork, or other alternatives all options do look quite good! Do you know how thick the teak still is ? We would be happy to help further if you'd like, just drop us an email!
lovely boat i like the way you love your boat,,,,i am looking at 382 very similar set up, a 352 would sort me to, but a38 came up so i think i will go for it, how does it sail uowind? as a lot of people say its not good upwind boat
enjoyed post, thank you
Hey Demetris, thanks for your comment 😁 indeed we love her very much, she has been good and deserves it 😊
She is definitely not an upwind start but neither very bad at it, most times we do fairly well compared to other boats unless to semi performance boats with laminate sails. Perhaps a new Genoa would help, but still really beating hard is probably not one of the strongest points 🙃 the 38 would also be a lovely option, a bit overall more space and comfort, perhaps speed too ! Good luck with it 🤞
hi fantastic boat maybe one day I will buy one, is this boat is good for sailing around the world and living on it ? what can be better being on Bahamas anchored in lagoon , I am in cold London UK trying to save for one boat good luck
Hi Chris, thanks for your comment! Saving up is definitely a goof start! Yes, the HR352 is definitely a boat that is designed to take you around the world, so are all HR, ofcourse you will have to do your part and upgrade a few things and do proper maintenance ! They sail well and are incredible seaworthy, we find the space sufficient to live and cruise on! For many people it might be on the smaller end, but unless you have a ton of money it a very good size, anything bigger and the cost goes up exponentially! Good luck 🤞
Enjoyed the tour! Do you use your diesel heater to heat water often? Do you have it connected to the towel rail and the engine so you can warm it before starting? Do you have other radiators to heat the boat? I also wondered if you had considered an air based heater rather than water? So many questions!
Hi Dale, Thanks for your comment :) Initially we had an webasto diesel hot air blower (5kw), perhaps it was even the original, it worked perfect for 1 and a half winters, then it started acting up and we decided to go for a webasto Thermo C water heater, as they are supposed to run quiet and better for continuous use, something necessary for the Danish winters. In the initial setup, we had 2 small radiator + towel drier, all connected to the engine fresh water cooling/ boiler. It was pretty great, plenty of warm water, for dishes and shower, an always warm engine and a warm boat & on longer engine run the cooling system of the engine would actually warm the radiators if needed :). Unfortunately the limited space called for small radiators which do not have a big enough heat output, so heater idles a lot which makes it loud and the boat takes a while to get warm :( So in hindsight I would have gone for a new airheater, also dries the air better and warms up faster :) - no hot water though ;)
Anyway since last year we disconnected the system from the engine, as the all the pipes were too much in the way in the tiny engine bay.
If you are a liveaboard and can fit big and enough radiators and don't mind the extra pipes & weight its definitely worth considering and very efficient, otherwise a nice airheater is just unbeatable :)
Hope that helps :)
@@sailingAGH thanks so much for the detailed reply! Our boat will have an air heater but I really wanted a water based unit to provide hot water and warm towels and laundry! Perhaps the air heater is best after all, so thanks again for sharing your experience!
@@DaleNewnham you are very welcome 😁 webasto also sells a 2 in one option that does it both, but it's also nearly double the price but quite convenient 🙂
Great video, thank you!
Question - do you know some families with kids living on that or similar 35 foot sailboat? If yes - what do you/they think about that (2 adults + 2 kids)?
All the best!
Hi Mariusz, thanks for the comment 😁
We follow a family that sailed on their hr352 from Sweden to the Caribbean and back, including their 2 kids, so it's definitely possible 😉. Perhaps for very long periods it's a bit small, but for a few weeks definitely perfect 😁
They have a website and insta sailingladyann.se/ so perhaps you can chat with them !
Great video Thank you for sharing your adventures. I’m deeply looking at an HR352 from 1984 and her seems quite well maintained. Do you think is her too old?
Hi Angelo, happy you enjoyed the video. As mentioned She is a great boat, practical, seaworthy and well build, but like with all boats there can be issues- perhaps a few less on Hallberg Rassys. An HR352 from 84 is definitely not too old- most boats from this period wouldn't be too old, yet the age should be reflected in the price. If She is well maintained you should be good. A few things to consider is the condition and age of teak deck, rudder bearings, windows and hatches, motor, standing rigging and seacocks. Something that can also be tricky on older boats are the electric systems, we had no issues so far but replacement renewal can be quite time and money consuming. Have fun boat shopping and if you have specific questions you drop us an email :)
@@sailingAGH thank you so much for your answer. Yes will definitely take a deep look on what you mentioned and totally agree with you on age. To be honest I started looking at an HR36 but in the meantime fractured my left ankle and had to pay for surgery etc…so my budged was compressed
@@iomagicofly oh sorry to hear that, hope you have a fast recovery! The 36 and also the 34 are great alternative, offer or should offer a bit more performance with their fin keels
How do you arange the number one and two for the dog??? Thx in advance. Gertjan
Hi Gertjan, we had to train him, but it was easy as we had it since he was 8 weeks and he only really lived on the boat. Still it took some encouragement and lots of treats, now every time he does his business on deck he demands a treat. So we often don't have the most well smelling boat but a relieved doggo!
Ps we tried plastic grass, actually grass but it didn't help much, the first few times hard and they will try to hold it ...but they will go, they also quickly unlearn, so once learned it's good to keep it up 😁
What if he got hurt underway and out on passage and something vital needs repaired. So girls need to know how to use tool’s too. I have my own wood shop, sailboat, tractor 🚜 etc. I live a no man needed lifestyle. Built my own barn. I feel the old ways he or she jobs are history.
I completely agree with you, and although I'm far from an expert I am perfectly able to use tools :). But I think you misunderstood my comment in the video. It was in relation to Leo's organisation skills (or rather lack thereof), so when I say in the video that I don't touch the tools, it's meaning that I don't interfere with how he stores them, not that I won't pick up a tool in general. Hope it's clearer now - and best of luck with your many projects :)
how about family? you raise your kids on your own too?
Great boat if you are 5ft tall otherwise it gets a bit tight at times especially down the back
Yeah, we had our concerns, especially Leo who is slightly over 6feet, however the later models of the 352 have more headroom, both in the galley and in the walkthrough. Overall it works fine and the boat still has very nice lines and a very stylish deck.
Agreed and very good sailers too
What capacity is the fridge? What powers it? Inside and outside shower facilities? How do you get in and off the boat? On the water/ in the marina? Can you reef/furl from the cockpit? Height of the cabin? What sort of autopilot do you have? Would you recommend it? What sail configuration do you have? How does that fare - in gentle winds? In strong weather? I have so many questions. By the way, the name of the dog, I don’t know how you spell it, but it sounds like ‘Kai’ which is Māori (indigenous New Zealanders) for ‘food’… be careful with that one!
I have hit the ‘don’t like’ button on your video by accident and am having difficulty trying to change it.. 😳
Ah! Done it! Sorry…. 😊
Hi Charles, thanks for the comment!
So the fridge should be roughly over 100l in Volume, including the mini freezer, it's operated by an external 12v cooling compressor, all run by our 300amps AGM batteries and entirely supported by our 190 watts of solar. Shower wise, we can shower in the toilet hot (by engine ). We have no outside shower, we just rinse with a bottle after a swim 😅. If on anchor we use our SUPs to get to shore, so far never a problem, in port, we have a bow latter or we just jump 🦘 we had also a plank but never really used it! We can not reef from the cockpit and like it so far as it keeps it clean and simple to to from the mast, never felt unsafe either, but its possible to bring the reefing to the cockpit! Height of cabin is around 188cm in our model, a bit lower in the previous versions. We installed an raymarine ev 200 linear drive, we got it at an awesome price and it is the best investment, it consumes very little ⚡ and never failed us. We have a full battened main, a smaller Genoa and a bigger Genoa some storm sails and a Spinnaker. She performs surprisingly well in gentle winds despite the heavy displacement and even better in heavier weather always feeling safe with a small weather helm! Yes it's Kai and he always wants food, btw Kai also means ocean in Hawaiian and pier in Danish😁 perhaps will avoid New Zealand!
Fair winds
@@sailingAGH thanks for that! I have just bought a 352 so it is good to swap stories and ideas. I had a Panda 40 before so I am looking forward, with a little trepidation, to the reduced size..! Thanks again and happy sailing.
Awesome, congratulations! Hope you enjoy her !
Не хватает нще один метр длинны а в остальном все замечательно.
In reverse you steer it with the bow thruster.
Unfortunately our bow thruster retired easy ;)
Hint of an Australian accent there? Love that HR
Hahaha that's interesting 🤔 who of us ? Btw no Australian heritage on neither of us 😊 perhaps influence of Australian friends ?