Should you buy a 2 Wheel or 4 Wheel Steer Lawn Tractor?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ค. 2024
- We compare the 2-wheel steer vs 4-wheel steer on John Deere riding lawn mowers.
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0:00 - Intro
0:21 - 2 Wheel Steer vs. 4 Wheel Steer Turn Radius
4:49 - Turn Around Time & Distance
7:41 - Time vs. Money
9:42 - Outro
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I mowed about that same amount of Lawn when I was a kid. Dad bought me a very nice 20" Craftsman Push Mower for my 10th Birthday. I got $1.00 dollar to mow approx. 2 acres every Saturday. It was a zero turn push mower though that I could turn on a dime. Life was Good back then! (For Dad)🤣
HAHA! Sounds like a good gig for back in the day. Thanks for watching!
Nice and funny story but that been said I know exactly what your saying. It was much different for us back then. Everything was manual labor
@@claudelarocque3655 And very few overly fat kids when we were growing up, at least in the rural area where I lived!!
I have a 1 acre lot with 35 trees and the X584 power 4 wheel steer is heavenly. The trees also bring lots to leafs so also have the bagger with remote dump. Perfect combo. Absolutely love this JD Might have gone with the X394 but also mowing 2 neighbors yards - Their husbands passed and they are in their 80. Its the right thing to do. Also this video did influence my decision to go with 4WS...... Great videos thanks
I never understood why people make such a big deal about the "TIME" it takes to mow there is nothing more therapeutic and relaxing to go out into your Acres drink a couple of beers put your headsets play your favorite music and mow.. I never think about OMG this is going to take so much "Time"
I relate with this comment so much, but you have to consider that for a lot of people it is a chore and not therapy haha! What mower do you have?
@@WesternEquipment currently has a Husq yth22v46. But looking for JD 332, 430 or 445
@@tejeda7324it’s a big deal when running a business. Time is money.
always look forward to your videos my friend, My brother got the X330 other day and absolutely loves it, he added it to his 1025R and his collection of implements.
Nice! Thank you and thanks for watching!
Great video. I’ve owned my x394 for 4years now with 0 issues!!!
Glad to hear this and thanks for watching!
Nice demonstration of the two mowers .Have a great 4th of July .
Thank you and thanks for watching!
The test for distance to straight...there are situations where that will happen, but if you go around the outside perimeter and then down the middle and continue that pattern, you'll almost eliminate the need for a really sharp turn except for trimming. I just bought a 534, mainly for the differential lock up, and love the 4 wheel steer.
I bought a new x394 right at the end of summer as a dedicated lawn mower because I got tired of removing attachments from my sub compact to mow grass and then reattaching them over and over. The four wheel steer is a game changer, especially with all the trees I have in my yard. It feels a little weird at first but 5 minutes in I was good and honestly mowed my yard a half hour or better faster than I can with my sub that has a larger deck. The 394 is simply far more maneuverable than any lawn tractor I’ve ever owned. I get the guys that don’t care about speed because they enjoy mowing but I have a thousand other projects, kids, animals, and when I can interests of my own. Maybe someday I can say the same but not yet. Either way, very nice machine and I’m glad I got it.
Wow, great informative video
Very informative as always
Thank you and thanks for watching!
Thanks for the info 😊
I tested the 4 wheel recently when I purchased my new JD. While I was impressed with the turning radius I felt I was constantly adjusting my steering when going straight and I thought the rear steering would be a “ trouble point” after a while. Didn’t seem worth the extra $ for me so I went with the 350 and couldn’t be happier..
This is exactly why I always suggest people to test drive before they buy. Glad to hear you are happy with your purchase and thanks for watching!
4 wheel steer does take some time to get used to
Great Video. I have owned two X304 42 inch deck mowers and they cut my property in the same time as my X300 48 inch deck does. I have 7 hours on average of grass to cut every 2 weeks. I sold both X304's because I made money on each of them. I prefer the 4 wheel steer even with the smaller deck as they are more fun to cut with. Less "turning back to finish" in the tight spots and tree wells.
I completely agree. Thanks for watching?
Nice video Brent 👍😍
Thank you and thanks for watching!
Great video. Would love to see a comparison video between x394 and x584 in regards to rear Differential lock on hills and slopes.
I will keep this idea in mind. Thanks for watching!
@WesternEquipment -- Is there any truth to another video's comments about x300 series 4 wheel steering:
1) 4 wheel steering helps with hills
2) The arms bend easier with rack and pinion steering.
3) The steering gets sloppier after about 150 hours without the 4 wheel steering.
I have 50-50 between hills and flat. I wasn't thinking about getting the 4 wheel steering until I read those comments.
I did bend the arm of an older cub cadet that came with the property due to the hills.
Glad I could practice on the Cub. 😂
If you have a large yard with lots of obstacles 4 wheel steer is a must . Would not want to be without it
Yes, either this or a zero-turn mower.
My main reason for getting 4wheel steering is snow blowing. The machine turns on a dime with 4ws. Two wheel steer and snowblowing is miserable trying to get turned around. Also getting unstuck with 4ws is much easier. I have a x324 I’ve had since 2011 and I just got a 2021 x394. I really love the power steering and hydraulic lift.
Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad you are enjoying your new mower.
My concerns with four wheel steering are the extra stuff to go wrong with it. My concern with four wheel drive without four wheel steering has less to do with the turning radius than with the propensity for four wheel drive to tear up the lawn in tight turns, particularly if the ground is soft as it often is here in upstate NY. My current lawn tractor is a Kubota GR2120 and without going into a long rant, it's not optimal, although it DOES have an AWD system that disengages the front drive on tight turns. So, my concerns remain..
I posted a video around 8 years ago “John Deere x324 Turns Very Sharp”. You can see in my video as I tossed a glove or hat on the ground and did a circle around it. I thought I remember that the uncut circle from that mower was about 12”? Though I never mowed grass with it as I was selling it for my moms friends.
I will have to check it out!
It's nice to see Larry Mondello working
Thanks for watching!
With my S240 I use a method I call "orbiting." My first pass is as tight as I can get it then I make a wider sort of French curve to cover some area already done and change the angle I come back in. I won't go in reverse unless absolutely necessary. For the straight cuts if I want to continue progressively then I'll crank a hard left and back right. I may be some inches off, but hey, I'm on a riding mower! Usually I like to make the reverse tight and leave a strip undone so I''ll have strips on cut and uncut alternating. It's fun to come back and get each individual strip. Yes, I know I'm double cutting in most cases, but not going into reverse and adding stress by engaging so often helps... I think. Is that the recovered X320 you brought back to life?
Sounds like you have it figured out and YES that is the one! Thanks for watching!
I'm looking at both models in the 500 series, but have been hearing about issues arising on the 4ws models and I'm now thinking to just keep it simple. The extra $1000 for the option is a bit much. I'm also not sure of paying an extra $1000 for EFI
Definitely worth the extra money.
Save alot of time and u will save gas and wear on your machine because u won't be putting as many hours on it a year.
And u have to look at resale.
U will get more money back with one with four wheel steering.
Easy choice.
Advantage over a zero turn, is that u won't tear up the grass from turning and these work well on side hills as well.
I agree! Thanks for watching!
Does the 4 wheel steer require a more maintenance ? Especially is it reliable, it looks like a lot more moving parts. That tight turning radius is amazing !
I mean it does have another set of steering linkages and more grease points, but they are reliable. People really have good luck with them.
I like the X394 because both the front and back wheels turn
Yes, the 4 wheel steering is awesome! Thanks for watching!
I’d like to see this with a x350 and a x354
You would get very close to the same result.
I
LIKE THE 4 WHEEL STEER
Same here. Thanks for watching!
2 wheel drive is a pain because of its poor turning radius and it’s extremely annoying reverse shutoff. Makes it frustrating in small areas.
Totally understandable. Thanks for watching!
Maybe you can help I'm looking for a new lawn tractor... I'm confused I'm seeing stuff like the x585 with the 45 loader older stuff but nothing new did John deere quite making these models?
There are no longer lawn tractors that are made with loaders. The smallest machine you can get with a loader is the 1025R.
@Western Equipment so what I figured out was this... technically aftermarket loader for the x739 John Deere Lawn Tractor & then we bought a Little Bull front loader from Little Buck... out of Illinois
Is there a way to test the AM141075 other than replacing it to see if it now runs???
Not that I know of. I will look into it though.
I am not exactly sure, but I believe my X324 cuts pretty tight around an 8 inch tree..... It's NOT running like a DEERE, or maybe it is.. I think I have yet another shot AM141075... These things are JUNK!!!!!
I'm not sure why these are such a problem on these machines but I had to replace the one on my X320 that I refurbished to use at my studio barn.
Do y’all still make loader for X758? I’m looking into buying a garden tractor and I’d like a diesel that I can put a loader on
I don't believe so. I will do some checking though and see if there are any other options.
I was just at my local dealer yesterday and he said they don't offer loaders on the 700s anymore.
@@Corkoth55 what! Dang
i wish we still got the diesel x700 with 4wd and 4ws...the govt had to be ridiculous and lowers the rops weight limit...
That is unfortunate, they are awesome mowers.
@@WesternEquipmentyah and the x739...awesome mower and blower...but the diesel was way cooler lol
How much more effort does it take (if any) to turn the steering wheel on 4 wheel model than a two wheel model?
The x394 has power steering. You can turn it with one finger, literally. The x354 is the other four wheel steer option and does not have power steering. I haven’t tried it so I can’t honestly say but the 394 is like butter
I'd like a small S120 if I could find one?
I know the availability is a real problem right now. I am hoping this changes soon. Thanks for watching!
@@WesternEquipment As a dealer, do you know what is the problem?
4 wheel steering can save time its far superior to Craftsman's 5 inch turning radius which tears up sod and slips when grass is wet or on a non paved driveway and add wear out faster and its a safety issue. How I know its a safety issue is I had a husqvarna 2348 in for repair the front wheels would slip when making a sharp turn my dads LA150 does the same thing. I like the X300 X500 and the 400 series 425 445 455.
Thanks for the info and thanks for watching!
@@WesternEquipment you're welcome
Prefer Zero Turns better . Have Z545
Same, only issue I have is tight circles for me are slowly ripping up the edge of the trees mulch/grass. I’ve adjusted my tire pressure to see if that helps or not. It’s a z920m which is 1300lbs without me and has some aggressive tires.
Totally understandable. That is an awesome mower and thanks for watching!
Love the Video , but it`s 7 years too late to convince others.
This may be true, but better late than never. Thanks for watching!
Hmmm my Craftsman T240 Turn Tight Tractor has a 5" turning...so you're John deere is a joke..
Interesting. I am still going to have to do a comparison over these two when I get a chance. Thanks for watching!
Anybody to buy junk from Sears is a joke no parts no service push and 🙏
@@harryerhart5978 amen to that