Slender Man would probably be better to adapt in a mystery thriller, where detectives have to chase a child snatcher, who uses Slender Man lore as a cover to throw of the investigation.
I think Roman was fascinated by Sidney as well. And in his sick mind, he hoped they would become a family. To him the big vilain of the story, was their mother.
Prometheus wasn’t as much of a mess as it’s…. Sequel… Thing is, the Space Jockey in Alien is massive, so massive that a whole person could climb into the opening left by the chest burster, yet the engineers aren’t as big. No where near…
Such a shame those changes happened to the 2011 The Thing. Yeah, i have seen it, and while it's far from the best. I'll still give it credit for matching up the looks of the areas and buildings of the original movie and having parts tie into the original like the axe location, bodies, etc.
For scream, they really could have changed the backstory just a little. Roman, after becoming a director for the movie looks further into the past and discovers what happened. from that he becomes obsessed with Sidney and decides to torture her by forcing her to relive the memory of the first movie. could even make it more of a split personality type thing. where maybe even he doesn't realize he's the killer. cliche, but that's also the point of the series.
The problem with some of these horror adaptations is they are nothing but cash grabs! They aren't produced by fans of horror and don't understand what makes a character such as slenderman scary in the first place !
Valentines- Dorothy was the only one who accused Jeremy. He killed the others for rejecting him, although it was more Dorothy and her frustration - overweight girl ignored by everyone, even her friends. I took it as they worked together. In the end though, he chose the only one who was nice to him.
The best thing about valentine is that you’re not meant to know who Jeremy grew up to be so you’re it sure who the killer is, but the description on the back of the dvd box tells you that the character is played by David Boreanaz
I don't disagree with Wesker being on this list. There were so many issues with how they translated him into the movies. However, I do feel the fight scene was pretty cool. I actually got a little excited see the fight from RE5. That was about it, though. His death in The Final Chapter made me giggle more than anything. He was especially disappointing in that one.
This is my first time hearing about the original Prometheus script and my heart legitimately kept sinking lower and lower the more I heard. I don’t think I’ve felt such a huge level of disappointment in a very very long time. That movie could have easily been one of the best of the decade.
My issue with Slender Man was that with the abilities and weaknesses they gave Slendy in the movie Slender Man all they needed to do to defeat him was lock themselves in a Faraday Cage…
Disagree on Hoffman. He is amazing and my favorite of the Saw franchise after John. Hoffman’s motivations actually don’t change. He just spiraled because he had to keep trying to cover himself and not be found out and things got way out of hand and he went complete rabid dog. Everything is very consistent with Hoffman. I’m all about him and his films are my favorite.
I don't necessarily mind Roman's plan - at least the portions self contained in Scream 3. He wanted Sydney to break the same we be broke begore dealing the killing blow. Cool. A bit on the nose but that's Scream. It's the retconning that annoys the hell out of me.
The whole point of Hellraiser was the Priest (Pinhead) and the Cenobites are all worshippers in the Church of pain. So when Roland achieved his gift, it was the gift of pain. For all eternity, which is what the Cenobites strive for.
I'm surprised u put wesker in the list but glad u did. The man in the game looked cool and felt like a real villain to face. The movie made him look like a teen who trys to look and act cool then does something stupid. I really enjoyed ur video keep up the great work👍
In Dreamcatcher I had forgotten about that name Mr Gray. I find this intriguing, since I seem to remember that in King's novel It, 'Robert Gray' was one of It's names
In all honesty, Roman Bridger and Roland Voight are not true villains. They were antagonists, but they were completely out of their depth and either taken out by the hero or consumed by something much... older. Roman Bridger was a guy motivated by hate and envy over Sidney's survival; rather pettily I might add. Roland Voight is basically Frank Cotton. Only he doesn't like getting his hands dirty and thinks that his wealth and power gives him an edge when it doesn't; in fact, I wouldn't consider there to be a true villain in Hellraiser (2022).
I like how none of the outraged parents protesting the Slenderman movie's production realized that the individual starting the protest to the movie was the father of one of the perpetrators NOT the father of the victim.
the problem with slenderman was the studio made them delete a lot of the scenes because they didn't want it to be rated r , i remember seeing the trailer and not seeing anything in the movie that was in the trailer
I highly disagree with Mark Hoffman. He carries Saw 4-7. I think they just put him on the list because Saw X is coming out. I think Logan and the villain from Spiral were worse.
I really like Logan but yeah.. Hoffman is incredible and has a huge fan base. He is one of my favorite horror characters. His story line is consistent and makes complete sense if your paying attention. He has the best arc.
he was definitely one of the best things in the series, the only reason he didnt totally live up to the standard of the games was because of bad writing. the actor definitely pulled it off well, he just wasnt giving much to work with.
That was such a sad day at the cinema when i came out of watching The Thing (2011). The attention to detail to the original was absolutely amazing and flawless (windows being broken,axe placement and such). And for it all to be ruined by rushed dreadful CGI is what makes it even more sad to me as the 1982 film is one of my all time favorites. I hope the morons who made those decisions at the studio got fired and banned from ever working in film again.
The Thing 2011 is a huge disappointment to me… the movie is actually pretty good, I love the idea of the prequel lining up perfectly and explaining the odd locations and bodies.. it had so much potential. It was so close to being amazing and could’ve been a classic but studio dickheads gotta ruin everything.
Roman didn't "just stab Sidney" because.... A) He's a psychopath and enjoys torturing people, especially her. B) The entire thing is supposed to be a parody of how so many horror movie franchises were playing out at the time. (Particularly Wes Craven's own "Nightmare on Elmstreet" series) To start with, you get a horror film from a relatively unknown director. It blows up at the box office and everybody loves it. The studio wants a sequel, but the director wants to move on to other work. Since the studio owns all the rights to the film, they get other directors to make it and more. Finally, when the entire series is played out and nobody cares anymore, the studio finally convinces the original director (who is now world famous and well known) to come back and make a "final chapter". Scream was that first film. Scream 2 was all those middle sequels with Nancy Loomis and Mickey Altieri standing in for all the directors. Scream 3, with its retcon that Roman Bridger was a secret third and lead killer in the first movie stands as the "triumphant return of the director to end the series". ----------------------------- Continuing the idea that the series matches real world horror movie paterns, Scream 4 is about remakes like "A Nightmare on Elmstreet" 2010. The fact that "The New SIdney" is actually the killer is reflective of how the audience usually hates the remakes and considers them a crime against the originals. Scream V is of course about both legacy sequels that don't do the original characters justice (Think Disney's sequels Star Wars. Not horror, but it's the best example) and the entitled fans who think they know best. The attempts by Amber and Richie to make everybody think Sam was the killer reflects the fans ideas that characters (or their descendents) should stay the same. The strangest thing about this film to me is that it seems like it simultaneously criticizes the fans for their entitlement while also avoiding the failures that so many crappy legacy sequels get criticized for.
Mr Gray wasn’t helped by Donnie Wahlberg’s unintentionally hilarious mentally disabled “Duddits” calling him “Mistuh Gay” . And yeah the suddenly British “‘ello Jonesy!” Dream catcher is one of Kings most unintentionally hilarious
Equally, the fact you think that Roman Bridger retcons the lore of Scream is equally laughable. He retconned nothing, merely acting a deeper level to proceedings -- which is what even Randy says is the point of a third instalment in a trilogy.
I think casting a woman as Pinhead was the best choice. It forced the audience to see the character in a new light, rather than comparing the new actor's performance to that of Doug Bradley.
I like the new Hell Priest and I like it makes others realize there more Cenobites than what we've seen in the past...I really enjoyed the new Hellraiser 😊
And it’s truer to the source material. The cenobites in the book were so disfigured that it was hard to tell which gender they were, but the equivalent of Pinhead explicitly spoke with a female voice.
I know I am partial because I hate the series, but Jigsaw (Tobin Bell's, which no doubt is the best Jigsaw) is nowhere near as iconic as Jason and Mikey imo. Ghostface and Chucky are also miles ahead. Again, yes I hate the series, but I stand by that regardless. Or maybe I am just old.
Ghostface has to be the weakest, most uninteresting slasher villain ever, no matter whom it is at any given time. We need more collector films. Not scream.
Now that I saw where it's from in this video, I'm not that bummed about it. It woulda been more disappointing if it was a new original film being introduced to cinema
It would have been so good if billy and stu had just carried out their plan and got away with it, instead of turning into bond villain's and explaining the plot. The scream films have got so stale and boring. As Randy would say I'd let the killer/s win.
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The ending in Hellraiser 2022 still disturbs me
The whole lore is fabulously disturbing
It’s disturbing and at the same time can’t stop researching them lol
Actually, the worst part of The Snowman is the FIFTEEN TO TWENTY PERCENT LEFT UNFILMED.
Slender Man would probably be better to adapt in a mystery thriller, where detectives have to chase a child snatcher, who uses Slender Man lore as a cover to throw of the investigation.
I think Roman was fascinated by Sidney as well. And in his sick mind, he hoped they would become a family. To him the big vilain of the story, was their mother.
Prometheus wasn’t as much of a mess as it’s…. Sequel…
Thing is, the Space Jockey in Alien is massive, so massive that a whole person could climb into the opening left by the chest burster, yet the engineers aren’t as big. No where near…
When will studios learn not to mess with productions when they don’t have a creative bone in their body?
Um... Never, that will never happen. Lmao
Such a shame those changes happened to the 2011 The Thing. Yeah, i have seen it, and while it's far from the best. I'll still give it credit for matching up the looks of the areas and buildings of the original movie and having parts tie into the original like the axe location, bodies, etc.
Yes, the attention to detail was commendable.
For scream, they really could have changed the backstory just a little. Roman, after becoming a director for the movie looks further into the past and discovers what happened. from that he becomes obsessed with Sidney and decides to torture her by forcing her to relive the memory of the first movie. could even make it more of a split personality type thing. where maybe even he doesn't realize he's the killer. cliche, but that's also the point of the series.
The problem with some of these horror adaptations is they are nothing but cash grabs! They aren't produced by fans of horror and don't understand what makes a character such as slenderman scary in the first place !
Valentines- Dorothy was the only one who accused Jeremy. He killed the others for rejecting him, although it was more Dorothy and her frustration - overweight girl ignored by everyone, even her friends. I took it as they worked together. In the end though, he chose the only one who was nice to him.
Dreamcatcher is a great book. It's really a shame what we got with all those people involved.
The best thing about valentine is that you’re not meant to know who Jeremy grew up to be so you’re it sure who the killer is, but the description on the back of the dvd box tells you that the character is played by David Boreanaz
I don't disagree with Wesker being on this list. There were so many issues with how they translated him into the movies. However, I do feel the fight scene was pretty cool. I actually got a little excited see the fight from RE5. That was about it, though. His death in The Final Chapter made me giggle more than anything. He was especially disappointing in that one.
This is my first time hearing about the original Prometheus script and my heart legitimately kept sinking lower and lower the more I heard. I don’t think I’ve felt such a huge level of disappointment in a very very long time. That movie could have easily been one of the best of the decade.
It's such wasted potential!!!!
I really wish Promethius and Alien Covenant were better movies; it could have really been a solid prequel series.
My issue with Slender Man was that with the abilities and weaknesses they gave Slendy in the movie Slender Man all they needed to do to defeat him was lock themselves in a Faraday Cage…
Fun Fact: Chionoandrophobia is the "fear of snowmen."
the snowman not a horror movie it's a crime drama
Roland Voight is not the villain, he's the antagonist. What a weird list.
Disagree on Hoffman. He is amazing and my favorite of the Saw franchise after John. Hoffman’s motivations actually don’t change. He just spiraled because he had to keep trying to cover himself and not be found out and things got way out of hand and he went complete rabid dog. Everything is very consistent with Hoffman.
I’m all about him and his films are my favorite.
Spoiler: The Engineer is actually Handsome Squidward.
Apparently, there is going to be another remake of the thing.
Why do you forget Jack ferriman from Ghost ship 👻🚢 😢😢😢😢
4:49 "slurp" lol
I may be in the minority but the new Hell raiser and TCSM i both enjoyed alot ...Chainsaw Massacre grew on me ...but i liked H.R. since 1st viewing ✌️
I quite enjoyed all of the TCSM movies. ALL of them
I don't necessarily mind Roman's plan - at least the portions self contained in Scream 3. He wanted Sydney to break the same we be broke begore dealing the killing blow. Cool. A bit on the nose but that's Scream. It's the retconning that annoys the hell out of me.
The whole point of Hellraiser was the Priest (Pinhead) and the Cenobites are all worshippers in the Church of pain. So when Roland achieved his gift, it was the gift of pain. For all eternity, which is what the Cenobites strive for.
I'm surprised u put wesker in the list but glad u did. The man in the game looked cool and felt like a real villain to face. The movie made him look like a teen who trys to look and act cool then does something stupid. I really enjoyed ur video keep up the great work👍
In Dreamcatcher I had forgotten about that name Mr Gray. I find this intriguing, since I seem to remember that in King's novel It, 'Robert Gray' was one of It's names
Yeah they dropped the ball on that one. Not as bad though IMO as they did with the Dark Tower movie or The Langoliers.
In all honesty, Roman Bridger and Roland Voight are not true villains. They were antagonists, but they were completely out of their depth and either taken out by the hero or consumed by something much... older. Roman Bridger was a guy motivated by hate and envy over Sidney's survival; rather pettily I might add. Roland Voight is basically Frank Cotton. Only he doesn't like getting his hands dirty and thinks that his wealth and power gives him an edge when it doesn't; in fact, I wouldn't consider there to be a true villain in Hellraiser (2022).
I have to wonder how much better the Slender Man movie could have been if so much of the original movie hadn't been gutted out of it.
I like how none of the outraged parents protesting the Slenderman movie's production realized that the individual starting the protest to the movie was the father of one of the perpetrators NOT the father of the victim.
I agree the villain reveal is stupid in Scream 3 but I still think that film is so underrated in the franchise.
What the actual frick was that pronunciation/accent on Dimitrescu? 😂😂😂
the problem with slenderman was the studio made them delete a lot of the scenes because they didn't want it to be rated r , i remember seeing the trailer and not seeing anything in the movie that was in the trailer
I highly disagree with Mark Hoffman. He carries Saw 4-7. I think they just put him on the list because Saw X is coming out. I think Logan and the villain from Spiral were worse.
I really like Logan but yeah.. Hoffman is incredible and has a huge fan base. He is one of my favorite horror characters. His story line is consistent and makes complete sense if your paying attention. He has the best arc.
Valentine was a very good movie.
wait.... we didnt like the Wesker....
he was definitely one of the best things in the series, the only reason he didnt totally live up to the standard of the games was because of bad writing. the actor definitely pulled it off well, he just wasnt giving much to work with.
period like i was THIRSTIN after that man but yes the writing was shit LOL@@theodorearagon
9:52 I was looking away from my phone for a moment, and when I looked back and saw Micheal Fassbender, I literally gasped. OMFG I fvcking love him ❤❤❤
That was such a sad day at the cinema when i came out of watching The Thing (2011). The attention to detail to the original was absolutely amazing and flawless (windows being broken,axe placement and such). And for it all to be ruined by rushed dreadful CGI is what makes it even more sad to me as the 1982 film is one of my all time favorites. I hope the morons who made those decisions at the studio got fired and banned from ever working in film again.
The Thing 2011 is a huge disappointment to me… the movie is actually pretty good, I love the idea of the prequel lining up perfectly and explaining the odd locations and bodies..
it had so much potential. It was so close to being amazing and could’ve been a classic but studio dickheads gotta ruin everything.
The fact you think we were every supposed to care about Roland Voight is hilarious. He was never meant to be anymore compelling than Frank Cotton.
Roman didn't "just stab Sidney" because....
A) He's a psychopath and enjoys torturing people, especially her.
B) The entire thing is supposed to be a parody of how so many horror movie franchises were playing out at the time. (Particularly Wes Craven's own "Nightmare on Elmstreet" series)
To start with, you get a horror film from a relatively unknown director. It blows up at the box office and everybody loves it. The studio wants a sequel, but the director wants to move on to other work. Since the studio owns all the rights to the film, they get other directors to make it and more. Finally, when the entire series is played out and nobody cares anymore, the studio finally convinces the original director (who is now world famous and well known) to come back and make a "final chapter".
Scream was that first film. Scream 2 was all those middle sequels with Nancy Loomis and Mickey Altieri standing in for all the directors. Scream 3, with its retcon that Roman Bridger was a secret third and lead killer in the first movie stands as the "triumphant return of the director to end the series".
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Continuing the idea that the series matches real world horror movie paterns, Scream 4 is about remakes like "A Nightmare on Elmstreet" 2010. The fact that "The New SIdney" is actually the killer is reflective of how the audience usually hates the remakes and considers them a crime against the originals.
Scream V is of course about both legacy sequels that don't do the original characters justice (Think Disney's sequels Star Wars. Not horror, but it's the best example) and the entitled fans who think they know best. The attempts by Amber and Richie to make everybody think Sam was the killer reflects the fans ideas that characters (or their descendents) should stay the same.
The strangest thing about this film to me is that it seems like it simultaneously criticizes the fans for their entitlement while also avoiding the failures that so many crappy legacy sequels get criticized for.
Let's not forget about the Slender Man attempted murder in Wisconsin. Put a bit of a damper on a film about girls summoning TSM.
Mr Gray wasn’t helped by Donnie Wahlberg’s unintentionally hilarious mentally disabled “Duddits” calling him “Mistuh Gay” . And yeah the suddenly British “‘ello Jonesy!” Dream catcher is one of Kings most unintentionally hilarious
Equally, the fact you think that Roman Bridger retcons the lore of Scream is equally laughable. He retconned nothing, merely acting a deeper level to proceedings -- which is what even Randy says is the point of a third instalment in a trilogy.
The engineer in prometheus is nowhere near big enough to fill the space jockey seat encountered in alien…
Seems to be the number one reason a film fails in some way is studio interference. You'd think they'd learn by now
Dreamcatcher is hilarious 😄
WTH, Mr. Gray was awesome. He was the best part of the movie.
They did Wesker dirty. I struggled to beat him in Re5 the film wesker looked like a piece of cake
Hahaha, Harry Hole 😆
I think casting a woman as Pinhead was the best choice. It forced the audience to see the character in a new light, rather than comparing the new actor's performance to that of Doug Bradley.
you totally have that one wrong Jaime Clayton is Trans plays pinhead is a androgynous demon.which it is apparently.
I like the new Hell Priest and I like it makes others realize there more Cenobites than what we've seen in the past...I really enjoyed the new Hellraiser 😊
And it’s truer to the source material. The cenobites in the book were so disfigured that it was hard to tell which gender they were, but the equivalent of Pinhead explicitly spoke with a female voice.
@@steven-i6j She's still a woman, numbnuts. Take your transphobia elsewhere.
@@steven-i6j what? XD
When are studios going to realize, we want practical effects!!!! Cgi ruins stuff just as often as it enhances it.
I know I am partial because I hate the series, but Jigsaw (Tobin Bell's, which no doubt is the best Jigsaw) is nowhere near as iconic as Jason and Mikey imo. Ghostface and Chucky are also miles ahead. Again, yes I hate the series, but I stand by that regardless. Or maybe I am just old.
YEAH!! I LOVE MARK HOFFMAN!!💕
Mark Hoffman was a horrible character. Everything he did, you knew he was up to something no good, yet no one suspected him Strahm.
He was so annoying. Amanda should’ve taken over for Jigsaw.
Amanda is annoying. I was glad when she got killed off.
Hoffman is the best!!!
@@Surprisemenow I agree Amanda was annoying but Hoffman wasn’t much better. He started off okay then became kind of ridiculous imo
Ghostface has to be the weakest, most uninteresting slasher villain ever, no matter whom it is at any given time. We need more collector films. Not scream.
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@@BlackHatCinephile thanks dude😂
The thumbnail looks like it came out of some beautiful masterpiece of a horror movie and then I look at the title and get disappointed as hell :(
Now that I saw where it's from in this video, I'm not that bummed about it. It woulda been more disappointing if it was a new original film being introduced to cinema
Clayton is a male.
It would have been so good if billy and stu had just carried out their plan and got away with it, instead of turning into bond villain's and explaining the plot. The scream films have got so stale and boring. As Randy would say I'd let the killer/s win.