Plumber here. To anyone watching this, these valves are very, very delicate. The part of the video where he shows you using the strap wrench on the bonnet nut be careful not to use too much force. If you do, you will bend the valve body, creating a massive leak. If you live in a part of the country that has hard water, there is a chance you will have to replace the entire valve.
I was watching this video because I can't figure out why water won't come out when I replace the cartridge. It was working fine except for a drip. I replaced the cartridge with a new one and now I can't figure out how to get the water to come out. I turn the water to the house on and the shower just sits there. When I turn off the water and take out the cartridge, a little water comes out. But for the life of me, I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. I even tried shaking it to make sure the float or whatever is in the cartridge was loose because someone said to try that. Any thoughts?
Thank you so much for this handy video. It was a life saver! My hubby & I have been collecting water in a large bowl in our shower due to the same leaky shower head you show here. With the help of your demo, we were able to get the right part and tools. Thanks again!
So this video helped me and my husband fix our Delta shower head leak. It took us an hour and a half, but I don't think we would have figured it out if we didn't watch the video and know what to expect. Our cartridge broke into two pieces while we were taking it out and it would have stopped us from moving forward if you didn't share your experience. We ended up taking a channel lock to the part stuck in the wall and pulled it out. Thank you for helping us through this. NO DRIPS OR LEAKS!!
PSA: Rona / Lowe's warranties the Delta Cartridges. Don't spend money when you don't need to! Just bring yours in and match it up. VERY HELPFUL VIDEO!!! Thanks!!
Rhonda, DIY wrenching chick here. I absolutely love this video!! it is detailed and even an idiot like me could replace my shower handle. Definately will watch his other videos!
Good to know about the pre and post 2006! Thanks for the info! I've replaced many shower valve cartridges over the years. This Monitor 14 was the biggest PITA I ever had to remove! You are lucky that it came out, fairly easy compared to mine! I was able to get the set screw out of the handle, but the handle still did not come loose! Now, the front half of the cartridge is still stuck to it! I put a drywall screw into the remaining half of the cartridge, that was still stuck inside of the valve body, then clamped a vise-grip to the screw, to make a pull handle. Pulled on it as hard as I could, no way! I got me a hammer. With the claw end, I tapped on the vise-grip bolt away from the wall. Got maybe 1mm of movement after 10 minutes of tapping, it was still stuck! I got a flat nail bar. Drove the screw more into the cartridge, and carefully pried on the screw with the nail bar against the valve body! Finally it came out! I looked inside, a small piece of plastic and an o-ring were still stuck inside one of the valve seat ports! The remaining part was easy to pull out, then I cleaned the round ports with a wire brush, and flushed the debris out. Wow! What a mission that was! Thanks for your video! I wish I stumbled on it beforehand, then I would've been more careful not to brake the cartridge in half! Lol!
Glad you were able to get that done! I swear, I always plan for a full days work even when doing the simplest plumbing job just because it always seems like something is going to gone wrong.
My cartridge stuck so bad that I couldn't get it out. My top part of the cartridge seems like it's gonna come off as well. So I decided to put everything back in for now to do more research.
Thank you for mentioning the Sheetrock screw and hammer, it saved me. Also the other cartridge, with the gray top is a RP46074, it’s inscribed on the cartridge. The RP19804 will not work in its place, you’ll be left wondering why the water won’t shutoff, don’t ask me how I know.
Thank you for your he instruction. Saved me a ton of time, I would't have known about the new design on the updated model for the stops. The extra parts would have confused me for a hot min. Also a helpful hint is how to pull and twist the collar to set water temperature on the new model valve.
I think I missed the part where you adjust the temperature. Where is that in the video? I just installed mine, but it only turns to 12:00 o'clock and that's luke warm water. 😮
My shower head was leaking but I replaced the seals and springs first, which are located under the white cover. He accidentally removed the white cover when he was trying to remove the entire cartridge. Replacing the seals and springs stopped the dripping, which can save you the hassle of trying to remove the cartridge, which is difficult. I keep a pack of these seals and springs on hand as I have multiple Delta faucets in the house.
Thank you for sharing this! Yes, in some cases that can be an easier quicker fix. I figured though while I had it apart mine as well to the full switch. I hate extra runs to the hardware store lol.
Mine valve was stuck too. My brother the plumber advised me to place channel locks on the brass end and use that to help me to rock the valve side to side. Came off pretty easily then. My only issue was that the handle didn't fit as closely to the valve stem as it did before. Checking on that....
I did not have the handle issue, but thank you so much for sharing the advice on getting the cartridge out. That can be tricky and we don’t want to damage anything so it’s great to hear from a professional on how they would go about doing it! Thanks so much!
Had the same issue with my handle set screw.....was frozen solid thanks to the fact Delta doesn't put any kind of rubber stopper on the access hole, so water gets in. I tried to drill it out, but in the end, just ended up snapping the handle off the Delta Cartridge and had to replace it. When I re-installed it, I used some plumbers grease on the set screw threads. Hopefully that helps the next time the cartridge needs to be replaced.
So how exactly did you manage to drill out the set screw? Because I'm trying to do it right now and I'm having absolutely no luck with getting that thing off lol
@@myssnoel8496 I had the same issue and ended up snapping off the top of the replacement cartridge to get the handle off. Try reversing the drill direction as well, while pushing into the set screw to see if that will back the screw out (as opposed to drilling forward/clockwise). Good luck and don't forget to grease the new set screw when you put the handle back on....so hopefully not as difficult the next time.
My hex screw in the handle was corroded in. Had to use Lime Away but even then I had to work it a lot to get it to loosen. Finally I was able to get it out. I cleaned and lubricated everything after that. To get the valve out, I helped it along with slight prying with a screwdriver. What I did differently than you was that I only replaced the seals and springs in the valve rather than buying a new valve. But, anymore, replacing the valve isn't much more expensive than the seal and springs kit at Amazon.
Well that's good to know because I'm having a bitch of a time trying to get the handle off right now since ours has been leaking quite a bit for the last 2 months. But like yours the handle is super corroded and I can't get a hex screw in there.
Question, handy man here, not a plumber. I do not need to replace the whole valve, just the seats and springs. I do not need to take the valve out? I noticed in video the part he initially took out had the seats and springs?
So I just spent a few hours doing this. I seen you struggle to get the back half of the cartridge out. then the video jumps ahead and then you pop it right out. I had limited tools with me but managed to get the back half out after I twisted it back and forth with bigger channel locks than you had, got my allen wrench stuck in back like a hook in between the 2 blue legs, clamped a vice grip to the allen wrench, and whacked the vice grips about 35 times with a hammer while taking brakes to twist on it. I'd like to see the tough part that you cut out.
Sounds like you got creative with yours! I wish I caught mine on camera but unfortunately my grip slipped and I knocked over the tripod and damaged my camera in the processes, losing that footage. I was able to get mine out by slowly twisting it back and forth. Luckily, afterwards I was able to get the camera back up and running, but it’s one of the tough things making these types of videos, once you lose the footage there’s really no going back. Thanks for watching and sharing, hopefully this can help others out.
Geez, look like in the same boat, the front side of the blue portion of mine snapped off...bout to go find an allen wrench that can slip back there🤦♂️😪
I have this exact set up but I’m having trouble taking off the handle. Can you share a pic of the size Allen wrench? A standard didn’t fit mine. Also not sure if there’s a screw in there.
strangely I am stuck at the first step where I need to use Allen key to uninstall the handle. I probed the key in and there was nowhere I can get my key to turn and unscrew. Do you have any suggestion?
There must be some corrosion not allowing it to release. You have to lightly work it back and forth to break that seal. Be very delicate with this to not damage it. Sometimes a little we-40 or pb blaster can help. Just test a small area with that first to make sure it doesn’t damage the handles finish, but from my experience I haven’t had it do that yet.
I believe I have the same shower handle. My issue is when I turn my handle to the right it shuts off but if I turn it a little more it turns back on. So past off it starts to drizzle. Would this be a cartridge issue as well?
@@BusyBeeLiving I called Delta and got a replacement cartridge. A couple of swear words later I got the old cartridge out and the new one in. Definitely fixed the problem 👍 thanks!
The joys of doing plumbing jobs is that there's always something that won't come free. Try some pb blaster on it and see if that loosens it up. Just be sure not to strip the screw itself or you'll be looking to have to drill it out and that is something you really want to avoid!
It's probably from corrosion build up. You just need to keep working at it, but be careful not to apply to much and damage more things. Also, some have used products like PB Blaster to help break down the corrosion. Plumbing is never fun 🤷
Yes, but I will add I did walk away for a bit to calm down so not to go to hard on the cartridge and cause any damage. Sometimes taking a break is the best move to make 🤷♂️
@@BusyBeeLiving I bought a whole new cartridge from Amazon for $45.00 with new washers. The one I worked on was stuck in there from the calcium build up. So I had to wiggle it out with channel locks. Busted it up in the process. Slapped on some plumbers grease on the new washers. And it was good to go again. This cartridge is from the 13/1400 series delta
Plumber here. To anyone watching this, these valves are very, very delicate. The part of the video where he shows you using the strap wrench on the bonnet nut be careful not to use too much force. If you do, you will bend the valve body, creating a massive leak. If you live in a part of the country that has hard water, there is a chance you will have to replace the entire valve.
Very important point! Thank you for sharing, it always great to have experienced people sharing their knowledge!
I was watching this video because I can't figure out why water won't come out when I replace the cartridge. It was working fine except for a drip. I replaced the cartridge with a new one and now I can't figure out how to get the water to come out. I turn the water to the house on and the shower just sits there. When I turn off the water and take out the cartridge, a little water comes out. But for the life of me, I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. I even tried shaking it to make sure the float or whatever is in the cartridge was loose because someone said to try that.
Any thoughts?
@@noteworthyinsignificancedebris plugged it up??? Seen it happen with a diy er
How does the handle come off I have 1400 but can’t find screw on the handle to remove it
@@fermenlesdesma2093Same here!
I'm glad you showed what type to get by looking under the handle (Fortunately mine is also 1400 series)
Glad we could help! Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for this handy video. It was a life saver! My hubby & I have been collecting water in a large bowl in our shower due to the same leaky shower head you show here. With the help of your demo, we were able to get the right part and tools. Thanks again!
That’s awesome! Hopefully, you see the value of your work in your water bill!
So this video helped me and my husband fix our Delta shower head leak. It took us an hour and a half, but I don't think we would have figured it out if we didn't watch the video and know what to expect. Our cartridge broke into two pieces while we were taking it out and it would have stopped us from moving forward if you didn't share your experience. We ended up taking a channel lock to the part stuck in the wall and pulled it out. Thank you for helping us through this. NO DRIPS OR LEAKS!!
PSA: Rona / Lowe's warranties the Delta Cartridges. Don't spend money when you don't need to! Just bring yours in and match it up.
VERY HELPFUL VIDEO!!!
Thanks!!
Great tip!
Rhonda, DIY wrenching chick here. I absolutely love this video!! it is detailed and even an idiot like me could replace my shower handle. Definately will watch his other videos!
Thanks for watching!!
Thanks for pointing out the model number on the cover plate
Glad we could help you out!
Can’t tell you enough how helpful this was. Thank you so much. You’ve absolutely earned my subscription.
Glad we could help, and thank you so much for subscribing!
Appreciate of this video you are such a good person to show this Video how to replace cartridge from being to end
God bless you.
Glad we could help!
Good to know about the pre and post 2006! Thanks for the info! I've replaced many shower valve cartridges over the years. This Monitor 14 was the biggest PITA I ever had to remove! You are lucky that it came out, fairly easy compared to mine! I was able to get the set screw out of the handle, but the handle still did not come loose! Now, the front half of the cartridge is still stuck to it! I put a drywall screw into the remaining half of the cartridge, that was still stuck inside of the valve body, then clamped a vise-grip to the screw, to make a pull handle. Pulled on it as hard as I could, no way! I got me a hammer. With the claw end, I tapped on the vise-grip bolt away from the wall. Got maybe 1mm of movement after 10 minutes of tapping, it was still stuck! I got a flat nail bar. Drove the screw more into the cartridge, and carefully pried on the screw with the nail bar against the valve body! Finally it came out! I looked inside, a small piece of plastic and an o-ring were still stuck inside one of the valve seat ports! The remaining part was easy to pull out, then I cleaned the round ports with a wire brush, and flushed the debris out. Wow! What a mission that was! Thanks for your video! I wish I stumbled on it beforehand, then I would've been more careful not to brake the cartridge in half! Lol!
Glad you were able to get that done! I swear, I always plan for a full days work even when doing the simplest plumbing job just because it always seems like something is going to gone wrong.
My cartridge stuck so bad that I couldn't get it out. My top part of the cartridge seems like it's gonna come off as well. So I decided to put everything back in for now to do more research.
Thank you for mentioning the Sheetrock screw and hammer, it saved me. Also the other cartridge, with the gray top is a RP46074, it’s inscribed on the cartridge. The RP19804 will not work in its place, you’ll be left wondering why the water won’t shutoff, don’t ask me how I know.
Thanks to this video, I was able to complete this with only one trip to Menards. Has to be some sort of record!
Is that even possible to do a repair job with only one trip to the hardware store 🤔. Glad it helped and you got it done!
Thank you for your he instruction. Saved me a ton of time, I would't have known about the new design on the updated model for the stops. The extra parts would have confused me for a hot min. Also a helpful hint is how to pull and twist the collar to set water temperature on the new model valve.
Glad it was helpful!
I think I missed the part where you adjust the temperature. Where is that in the video? I just installed mine, but it only turns to 12:00 o'clock and that's luke warm water. 😮
Thanks man easy money with your video was my first time and took me 5 minutes cheers 🍻brother I’m drinking one now
Glad it helped, and a cold beverage is always helpful after a plumbing job lol. Cheers!
My shower head was leaking but I replaced the seals and springs first, which are located under the white cover. He accidentally removed the white cover when he was trying to remove the entire cartridge. Replacing the seals and springs stopped the dripping, which can save you the hassle of trying to remove the cartridge, which is difficult. I keep a pack of these seals and springs on hand as I have multiple Delta faucets in the house.
Thank you for sharing this! Yes, in some cases that can be an easier quicker fix. I figured though while I had it apart mine as well to the full switch. I hate extra runs to the hardware store lol.
Hi, What is the allen key size to undo the handle, which happens to be the first step. Thanks,
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Great info. EXACTLY what I was looking for!
Glad we could help you tackle your project!
Mine valve was stuck too. My brother the plumber advised me to place channel locks on the brass end and use that to help me to rock the valve side to side. Came off pretty easily then. My only issue was that the handle didn't fit as closely to the valve stem as it did before. Checking on that....
I did not have the handle issue, but thank you so much for sharing the advice on getting the cartridge out. That can be tricky and we don’t want to damage anything so it’s great to hear from a professional on how they would go about doing it! Thanks so much!
Strap wrench and a little penetrating oil (soak for a couple hours) is the way to go for sure. Drilling out the handle set screw was fun on mine...
Always fun these plumbing jobs are lol. I have yet to have one go nice and smooth for me 🤷
Had the same issue with my handle set screw.....was frozen solid thanks to the fact Delta doesn't put any kind of rubber stopper on the access hole, so water gets in. I tried to drill it out, but in the end, just ended up snapping the handle off the Delta Cartridge and had to replace it. When I re-installed it, I used some plumbers grease on the set screw threads. Hopefully that helps the next time the cartridge needs to be replaced.
So how exactly did you manage to drill out the set screw? Because I'm trying to do it right now and I'm having absolutely no luck with getting that thing off lol
@@myssnoel8496 I had the same issue and ended up snapping off the top of the replacement cartridge to get the handle off. Try reversing the drill direction as well, while pushing into the set screw to see if that will back the screw out (as opposed to drilling forward/clockwise). Good luck and don't forget to grease the new set screw when you put the handle back on....so hopefully not as difficult the next time.
@@myssnoel8496 You need a sharp bit.
Excellent Bourbon selection!
Thank you, it’s much needed after working on plumbing lol.
@@BusyBeeLiving no argument
Thanks so much! This was super clear and even I managed to replace the cartridge!
Glad that you found it helpful and were able to get it fix!
My hex screw in the handle was corroded in. Had to use Lime Away but even then I had to work it a lot to get it to loosen. Finally I was able to get it out. I cleaned and lubricated everything after that. To get the valve out, I helped it along with slight prying with a screwdriver. What I did differently than you was that I only replaced the seals and springs in the valve rather than buying a new valve. But, anymore, replacing the valve isn't much more expensive than the seal and springs kit at Amazon.
Well that's good to know because I'm having a bitch of a time trying to get the handle off right now since ours has been leaking quite a bit for the last 2 months. But like yours the handle is super corroded and I can't get a hex screw in there.
Question, handy man here, not a plumber. I do not need to replace the whole valve, just the seats and springs. I do not need to take the valve out? I noticed in video the part he initially took out had the seats and springs?
Thanks for the info.
Any time!
So I just spent a few hours doing this. I seen you struggle to get the back half of the cartridge out. then the video jumps ahead and then you pop it right out. I had limited tools with me but managed to get the back half out after I twisted it back and forth with bigger channel locks than you had, got my allen wrench stuck in back like a hook in between the 2 blue legs, clamped a vice grip to the allen wrench, and whacked the vice grips about 35 times with a hammer while taking brakes to twist on it. I'd like to see the tough part that you cut out.
Sounds like you got creative with yours! I wish I caught mine on camera but unfortunately my grip slipped and I knocked over the tripod and damaged my camera in the processes, losing that footage. I was able to get mine out by slowly twisting it back and forth. Luckily, afterwards I was able to get the camera back up and running, but it’s one of the tough things making these types of videos, once you lose the footage there’s really no going back. Thanks for watching and sharing, hopefully this can help others out.
Geez, look like in the same boat, the front side of the blue portion of mine snapped off...bout to go find an allen wrench that can slip back there🤦♂️😪
I have an old and new style cartridge, shutting down water in a small apartment complex tomorrow
Good luck! Hope this video helps you complete your project!
Hey, the link for the Pre March 2006 cartridge assembly doesn't seem to link to anywhere.
Thank you for letting us know! I have fixed the link so it should work now. Much appreciated!
Will this also work if the faucet is leaking?
We have a video showing how to fix that, but it is a similar process.
Thank you! I rent and the landlord is conveniently hard to get hold of. So I just fix things myself or call a handyman. 😲
Hope this video helped you get that fixed!
Will a 9.5” channel lock work or do you need a larger size?
I have this exact set up but I’m having trouble taking off the handle. Can you share a pic of the size Allen wrench? A standard didn’t fit mine. Also not sure if there’s a screw in there.
Usually size 3/32
Thanks brother.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks, this was a big help.👍🏽
Glad we could help!
Just my shower handle needs replacement. Is it fine to swap it without turning the water off to the house?
You should be fine but I find that any plumbing project I do I make sure I know where the nearest water shut off is
strangely I am stuck at the first step where I need to use Allen key to uninstall the handle. I probed the key in and there was nowhere I can get my key to turn and unscrew. Do you have any suggestion?
They do make screwdrivers with bits that fit this set screws. That may give you an easier way to turn it.
What do I did when the shower handle doesn’t want to come out after removing set screw?
There must be some corrosion not allowing it to release. You have to lightly work it back and forth to break that seal. Be very delicate with this to not damage it. Sometimes a little we-40 or pb blaster can help. Just test a small area with that first to make sure it doesn’t damage the handles finish, but from my experience I haven’t had it do that yet.
In extreme cases, hacksaw and then replace cartridge, sleeve and handle. Just had one of those.
Hi! Thanks for your video! What size Allen key?
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I believe I have the same shower handle. My issue is when I turn my handle to the right it shuts off but if I turn it a little more it turns back on. So past off it starts to drizzle. Would this be a cartridge issue as well?
Worth a shot. I could see this fixing that issue but I honestly don't know.
@@BusyBeeLiving I called Delta and got a replacement cartridge. A couple of swear words later I got the old cartridge out and the new one in. Definitely fixed the problem 👍 thanks!
I can’t get the initial screw out of the handle even with wd40. Am I screwed
The joys of doing plumbing jobs is that there's always something that won't come free. Try some pb blaster on it and see if that loosens it up. Just be sure not to strip the screw itself or you'll be looking to have to drill it out and that is something you really want to avoid!
Where do I get an Allen key?
Any hardware store. They are also sometimes called hex wrenches and occasionally companies provide one with their products.
Certain size Allen key ?
What size alloy wrench did you use?
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What size Allen key?
What do i do if the handle itself is stuck on after the screw is removed?
I’m having same issue. Screw removed on handle and won’t budge. Tried prying off with small screwdriver and still nothing.
@@erickhaigis5948 Tried Vinegar, CLR, WD-40
Nada. Ended up just continuing to shower with lukewarm water 🤦♀️
@@PerfectNyx man so frustrating. My has a pretty steady drip of warm water and can’t get that darn handle off no matter how hard I try.
It's probably from corrosion build up. You just need to keep working at it, but be careful not to apply to much and damage more things. Also, some have used products like PB Blaster to help break down the corrosion. Plumbing is never fun 🤷
Allen wrench size would be super fricking helpful. My gosh.
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What size alan wrench?
How i can shut off hot water..? Thank you
Shut off water main at street. Will shut off hot and cold.
I just can’t find an Allen key that unlocks my handle ugh!!!
I came for the stuck bonnet but. I stayed because of the Casio watch
LOL, I love that thing!
Unable to remove the handle.😮. Help!!!
In extreme cases, hacksaw and then replace cartridge, sleeve and handle. Just had one of those.
The one I have looks just like that and is grey
I can't even get the handle off...😂 the set screw is corroded. I can't imagine what it's going to look like behind it.
Wish you would’ve showed the HELL getting that handle off…I can’t get mine off
Yeah, mine came off without any issues, what did you do to get yours off?
@@BusyBeeLiving I called my plumber friend 😁
@@BusyBeeLiving he ended up having to break it off. No biggie, I was replacing anyway
@@Jsmooth69able having a plumber friend is a game changer! Glad you were able to get it done!
I’m also having trouble removing the handle. Found the right size Allan wrench but it won’t budge. Trying some WD-40 right now.
thanks, so all you had to do was just wiggle the hell outta it for the rest of the guts to come out?
Yes, but I will add I did walk away for a bit to calm down so not to go to hard on the cartridge and cause any damage. Sometimes taking a break is the best move to make 🤷♂️
@@BusyBeeLiving I bought a whole new cartridge from Amazon for $45.00 with new washers. The one I worked on was stuck in there from the calcium build up. So I had to wiggle it out with channel locks. Busted it up in the process. Slapped on some plumbers grease on the new washers. And it was good to go again. This cartridge is from the 13/1400 series delta
Step 1: Buy a strap wrench 🙄
Step 2: Find one of the three I own lol... Actually I tried with one of mine and couldn't get it to grip the plastic.
Not to be critical, turn the slip joint pliers around to get a better grip 😁
What size Allen wrench?