Procharger 1 year and 15k miles later - Worth it?
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- One year and 15,000 since I installed the Procharger. Was it worth it? If I could go back would I do it again? Watch here to find out.
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2014 Dodge Charger R/T AWD
D1SC Procharger
3600 Stall FTI Torque Converter
Snow Stage 2 Kit
180 T-stat Mod
Custom Flowmaster exhaust with original 40 mufflers
Resonator delete
Various cosmetic mods
530 AWHP 665TQ
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I'm glad you think it was worth it, because I sure have enjoyed watching the transformation over the last year. Here's to hitting that 11.99. !!
Cheers! 11.99 here I come! Gotta rematch the hellcat too
So glad you're bucking the trend with stock boost Dave. 5.7's seem to be getting a good mod reputation lately. Keep up the good stuff!
It’s amazing how tough the 5.7 is but they are a beast! The car is coming along very nice and great video bro keep up the great work!
thanks bee!!!!
@@dasllamas You're welcome bro!
Didn't know the RT was available in AWD awesome way to put the power to the ground enjoy.
Was an option till 2014. Only available now through police package
@@dasllamas I will keep that in mind next time thanks.
Awesome that you did a one year follow up. I’d love to see another review next year (if you keep it that long). I think it’s a great project and I’m so glad you’re posting up to keep us entertained and informed 👍🙏
Love the car.. still wish you would’ve gone with heads and cam! The bottom end is only good for 600 hp on these blocks. So you’re still within the safe range. Great Stuff!!
Heads and cam almost happened and there are times that I think that's the way I should have gone but altitude was the determining factor. Thanks for commenting
Your car has the perfect setup. Everything is under the hood not a bunch of exterior bolt on parts turning that beautiful car into a ricer. Awesome ride bro!
Hemi Muscle I try to keep it a sleeper but I think I need a new hood to get some of the heat out of the engine and try to draw in fresh air. Hope its not rice when I finally fine one
Love you narration man, can't tell you how nice it is to see a modest, honest car guy. Definitely subscribed
Thanks for the kind words and sub. 👍
I've been told that the 5.7 does better with boost then the 6.4..
I've been told the same. Thicker walls in the block or something. 5.7 just takes boost better
Vincent Van Pwn3d 392 has higher compression accompanied by long stroke and stock pistons and your asking for trouble
Cool. I've got. Boosted 6.4 9-10lbs. Boost. Drive it pretty hard. No problems so far. But ince I get the forged internals I'll increase boost. See more on IG @BOOSTEDSCAT392
@@jamesreyna1319 the 6.1 loves boost with a forged crank.
Please remove the music while you talk very annoying. Great car!!
Will do next time
@@dasllamas is it still holding up? I'm curious. I'm interested in pro charging
@@jamesmyers7717 it is still running great! Ty for asking. Ill get newer videos up soon
👍👍 good work bro
Thanks!
Great video man! Hell yeah its held up well and would do it again. Love this build and have fully enjoyed your journey!!! Here is for many more years and miles my friend!!!
Burnseys RT thanks burnsey! I can't wait to see what you do here in the coming months
After my cam, I've been really digging deep into boost. I'd like to learn more from you. I'm starting to watch your previous videos
-Nick
Feel free to message me on insta or facebook with any questions.
@@dasllamas are u on stock internals
Would love to see you run it at sea level some day. You have a beautiful ride. Rocking that Denver bronco orange.
gman4hire that’s red lmao
My stock 1320 gets those types of numbers at the track. You would eat my lunch on the street. It is a bad ass car and looks clean. Glad it is holding up well.
Your 1320 turns more heads and sounds better. Personally I think my main advantage is like what you said with being on the street and I drive mine in the snow too
You have done an awesome job on your charger man! I'd love to supercharge my R/T... Hopefully I'll eventually get to that point. Definitely not there yet though.
Awesome R/T gotta save those pennies
@@dasllamas for sure! I just need a swear jar... I'd have a supercharger in no time... Haha
Faster than a 392 so yep worth it 🔥🔥🔥
It's an awesome setup you have on your car!! It's good to have a long term review which indicates the durability of a supercharged 5.7!
Daytona 5.7 just gotta build it right. If you short cut it and abuse the car too much it will fail. Any car will fail if you do it wrong
@@dasllamas how does one “do it right” ?
I’m getting a 392 Daytona and want to pro charge it...
@@TheFreelanceCowboy get the 392 forged
great vid you can really tell you love your car
Hope mine dont blow up after a yr . Had me come back watching this again
Mine is still running. Just sold it last week
@@dasllamas dam man that thing was sick . I bet u got better comin 💪
@@Dirtseven06 we will see
Cool video man . Love the set up
Thank you
She’s a beauty! And a beast! All the mods are wonderful and a great shop to help you along the way. I really diggin them headlights. 👍🏻
Me too! The factory hid lights look like an after thought. This is the way they should have looked from the beginning. Even without the leds
We'll be running a Procharger on our S10 drag truck. We'll be seeing you at the track next year.
Awesome! Holla at me if you see me. We can run one
Will do. You can't miss us, a ugly purple (grape ape) 97 extend cab S10. My partner ran his ultra 4 rock crawler down there this summer with a 10.3 @ 132 pass. This truck has that motor and trans in it. Looking for mid 9's.
In all honestly if your a car guy and you had fun doing the work and seeing something materialize from stock than that is all that really matters. I put 15k into a custom 1980 Cadillac fleet wood when inwqsna kidnonlyntonsell the car for 3k, but I learned a lot and had fun, I didn’t really care
It's about the journey. If you have fun that's what matters.
dasllamas - i agree 100 percent...keep going- matty NJ
This amazing I love the charger.
Random TH-cam Name 19 thank you!
That car is a monster!
John Cahill looks good thanks to your wheels and tires
That's great it held up at least we know its a very strong engine/trans at least u learned from my mistake correct tire size never stagger a awd
Whoa Weezy no kidding man. I got a nail in the shoulder of my tire the other day and thought i was gonna have to buy a full new set. Luckily it was only in the tread
dasllamas I had one also had to plug the tire at work
Thank you
V8 AWD. Dodge is missing out on an opportunity. I had to settle for a 2wd. I wonder if there is hood with a scoop that would help you isolate your intake filter. Very nice video. Thanks
There are a few designs out there that will help get the air moving but as for something to isolate it from the engine that's gonna be a custom build
I see. Thanks for the reply.
Hey do you still have your charger ? Love the RT videos you’ve made .. motivation for me as I am saving for a procharger for my 2019 Charger RT . Just wanted to know how your build is holding up
I live a couple towns over. He sold it on FB a year or so ago and got a Gladiator
Sweet charger
Thank you!
Just getting the right tune the right boost and tune no worries
You are 100% right. Also dont treat your car like junk
Very helpful
heck yea man love this thing, I wish i could have mine done as well. you da man bro lol, ps i like your reward speach lol
Haha. Its the elusive rhinoninja
@@dasllamas now you see me
Do you have a list to all what’s needed to support the procharger such as fuel,gauges etc.
This what is done performance wise to the car.
D1SC ProCharger in standard satin finish with 4 inch pulley @ 9 psi
Big Red Race Valve
FIC (Fuel Injector Clinic) 650 Injectors
API competition single pump 400 lph drop in fuel system
RPM 160 TStat
Snow Performance dual jet stage 2 water methanol system
FTI 3600 stall torque converter
Custom cam from Rains Precision Motorsports RPMDenver.net ground by Comp Cams
Hellcat Lifters
MDS solenoid delete
392 shorty headers
Custom modified 3 inch Stainless Works catless mid pipes
Flowmaster 40 series mufflers
Resonator delete
ATI Super Damper 16% over driven
Mopar front and rear strut braces
Powerstop Z26 Street Warrior rotors and pads
Custom tuned by Rains Precision Motorsports via HP Tuners
Custom Rains Precision Motorsports oil cooler
Awesome car man. 😎👌
Glad to see one here in Colorado. Thinking of trading in my ls1 gto for one so if I do I'll be coming to you lol. I havnt seen the d1 kit, just the p1
D1 is an upgrade that people font want to shell out a little extra money for. It is worth it for future growth. A month about I ordered my kit the came out with the D1x. Had I paid more attention to the news I would have gone with that.
Well now I'm looking at an srt8 jeep so we will see. Is the d1 for the charger part of the tuner kit because they only show the p1 on the website
I'm curious: How is the transmission/ transfer case holding up?
Up until I sold the car little over a year ago, the stock nag1 transmission and the stock tcase never had an issue. The last dyno run I did was 619 awhp and 560 tq. Sold the car at 70k miles.
Amazing car brother! I have a supercharger RT and man these 5.7's are true beasts? #R/Tgang #my345isbetterthenyourricer!😂
Ohhhh brotherhood of boost! Has a ring to it
@@dasllamas Boosted Brotherhood!
Great set up...
1. how many psi? pulley size?
2. What is the timing?
3. What is your fuel ratio?
I getting the same set up in about a week...
Thanks
7.5 psi on I believe a 3 85 pulley.. I think that's the pulley on it. Pre water meth I was only running 6-8 degrees (508 awhp 502 tq) now on my race tune (110 octane fuel) I'm 14-16 degrees almost 600 awhp 665 tq (hard one to answer because it varies depending on what rpm). On full throttle keeping it low mid 11 for afr.
This is as accurate as I can remember without having the tuner here. We redid the tune with the new FIC injectors a few weeks ago so a few things may be different.
dasllamas Great man. Thanks. I will be using a 4" pulley, hope to be on the 7 psi, wayer meth just for safety, and some where around 10°. If I am in 500whp I will be happy, and it should be safe. Glad to se another 5.7L procharger healthy out there.
Love the car great video! How is it on long trips or just driving on the highway with the procharger i have the 6.1 still trying to make up my mind what to go with wipple or procharger
Once you are crusing it acts like it is stock. Once you want to pass she wakes up. I still get about 18 mpg highway
@@dasllamas awesome thanks for the info
Awesome
Stupid question... AWD was factory? As I didn't know any 5.7s or above being AWD?
Yes factory awd. Was an option to the public up to 2014. You can get awd 5.7 now if you buy a retired police car.
What is the best tire /wheel combo for the Awd ?
I ran cheap Achilles desert hawks and could still pull a 3.6 second 0 to 60 on surface streets. Get what fits your wallet, especially if you are not pushing over 600 hp to the wheels.
What have you had to replace besides the injectors any heads or cam or anything ?? How’s she doing now ?
She is doing great. Was just out driving her around. Almost 3 years on the mods now and 40k miles since the procharger was added. Here is an almost complete list of mods currently.
D1SC ProCharger in standard satin finish with 4 inch pulley @ 9 psi
Big Red Race Valve
FIC (Fuel Injector Clinic) 650 Injectors
API competition single pump 400 lph drop in fuel system
RPM 160 TStat
Snow Performance dual jet stage 2 water methanol system
FTI 3600 stall torque converter
Custom cam from Rains Precision Motorsports RPMDenver.net ground by Comp Cams
Hellcat Lifters
MDS solenoid delete
392 shorty headers
Custom modified 3 inch Stainless Works catless mid pipes
Flowmaster 40 series mufflers
Resonator delete
ATI Super Damper 16% over driven
Mopar front and rear strut braces
Powerstop Z26 Street Warrior rotors and pads
Custom tuned by Rains Precision Motorsports via HP Tuners
Custom Rains Precision Motorsports oil cooler
Why is the intake filter in the back of the engine? Where's it getting air from?
It is the way procharger designed it. I run a viper hood so it pulls fresh outside air through the vents. Paired with the intercooler and water meth I can have intake temps up to 40 degrees below ambient when it is 90+ outside
What injectors are you using and tune for future reference?
I'd like to know the same thing
Fic 600 injectors and custom tune from Rpmdenver.net via HP Tuners
Will 2017 brembo kit from a srt fit on your car?
There is quite a bit of modding that you need to do to make it fit. I did a video interview with a challenger that had it done. Let me see if I can find the video.
Here it is.
th-cam.com/video/YYt6w7gxzCg/w-d-xo.html
How much was the water methanol kit? Which one did you go with?
Snow stage 2. Fairly basic setup. 800 for the kit when I did it not sure current cost. If you have a shop install and tune that will be extra.
is there a LSD option available for this? What about higher numerical final drive?
For the AWD there is no LSD option. I have heard of people taking the LSD out of a rwd charger and installing it but that takes some modification to make it fit. Stock gearing is 3.06 and I have not heard of anyone making a kit to change the gears because you would have to change out the front as well. Both of these mods can be done but will take some know how. More know how than I have for sure.
what was your best et and mph with that procharger? thanks for any info, im thinking about buying one.
I race in high altitude 7200+ air da. 12.4 1/4 mile at 114 mph. Slightly slower than a stock hellcat at this altitude. My 0 to 60 is 3.6 seconds and about a 1.8 60 foot
@@dasllamas awesome, thanks for the reply, how much would you say the pro charger helped your old NA time?
@@venomhemi3914 stock 0 to 60 was 6.5 seconds (again high altitude) procharger alone dropped it to 4.8. Added a 3600 stall torque converter dropped to 3.9. Cam and water meth dropped to 3.6. Theres a ton of other mods in there too but those are the major ones. You can see my full mod list in an upcoming video or Marspeed did one on my car too you can watch now if you search for it on his channel
@@dasllamas awesome thanks again, so im assuming the pro charger can knock a second off the 1/4 time then... thumbs up brother
@@venomhemi3914 stock 1/4 was 15.01 procharger only was 13 cam etc mid 12
Question : how did you fix the check light engine, and was renewing emissions a pain? Nice car.
I renew in a few months. Ill deal with that when the time comes. Ive had a CEL on and off ranging from failing throttle body to failing o2 sensors. I've just fixed them as I went
I was about to say this vid was posted 2 years ago in NAZI Virginia we would get a rejected emissions for that engine light. I’m short 2k for that same kit I just hope I don’t end up failing emissions constantly lol.
Dasllamas I was told about your channel by a coworker we both have the same car. I’m curious on the reliability if the tune was down to 400awhp and just the pro charger and injectors without all the other stuff installed. I’d love to be able to get some feedback as it has me considering doing the pro charger on stock internals now.
If you just do the basic procharger install it is reliable. Obviously ive upped the power via a custom tune but even when I was at 508 hp with just fuel pump and injectors it was safe. Main thing is watch your oil temperature. If you are over 200 degrees dont drive it hard. The 5.7 fails when the piston rings expand due to heat and chip the top of the piston. Just be responsible and you will be fine.
dasllamas super helpful thanks for your response. What was the correct fuel injectors and fuel pump to put in to handle that “responsible power”? Also thoughts on if it’s possible to swap to the SRT front end?
@@mattbrundieck6777 message me in instagram. I am quicker to reply there @dasllamas srt front end is a project I want to do and as far as i know it is a direct fit aside from some inside the wheel well stuff. I have fic 700 injectors and I forget the name of the fuel pump but it is rated at 600 lph
How much boost can a 6.4l handle on stock internals?
Idk much about the 6.4 boost tolerances sorry.
What problems did you have with the fic injectors?
Had problems with using hellcat injectors. Went to fic 650 no problems now been on the car for a while now.
Have you done anything to the drivetrain and transmission? I have a 5.7 awd as well but haven't done any performance mods because idk if either one can handle it
Drivetrain t case differential tranny ect are all stock. The tune I have on the car protects most of it. The throttle body will drop to 60% during a shift and timing for the clutch packs is adjusted even if i have the car at 100% i do lose a little in the 1/4 mile but the exchange is longevity.
Drivetrain should be safe to mid 600 crank hp so I'm knocking on that door
@@dasllamas that's awesome, thanks for the reply
So what size injectors did you end up running with finally?
FIC 600cc
How did the procharger hold up? I'm considering one for my 6th gen ss wanna go heads cam but with procharger I get more hp!!
Worked flawless with my cam and water methanol till the day I sold it
@@dasllamas Awesome brother thank you!!!!
How much did it cost
Procharger kit was about 6k. The cost to install is up to you
Is that 600whp tested on a dyno at your altitude or is that Procharger’s claims? Because if it’s from the dyno shouldn’t a 600whp car measured at your altitude do the same 1/4 time as a 600whp car at sea level (lower than a 12.4, no disrespect I’m just curious)?
Good question. Its 600 awhp on a mustang dyno with altitude correction (its standard to report numbers with altitude correction) at sea level it is estimated to be a mid to high 11 second car. Somewhere in my recent uploads I have the dyno run showing these numbers. Not pulling them out of my butt i promise.
dasllamas oh okay that makes sense now. Dude bring your car over here to Atco in New Jersey (one of the lowest tracks in the US) and I swear you’ll run a 10.
I have a 15 r/t and want to procharge it I plan on running around 8 pounds people are saying even 10 is safe because the engine can take a beating. I was wondering all the parts you actually needed to put into it to make it work
I ran 7.5 psi for almost 2 years. Im at 8 psi now. I have water meth fic 650 injectors and i think its a 400 lph fuel pump. Just make sure you get a good tune on the car and you are good. Rule 1 Get an AFR wideband and dont run your car lean. Rule 2 dont bash on your car when it is hot out or if your coolant and oil temprature is over 200. The piston rings are the weak points
Oh and I just put in a cam a couple weeks ago
@@dasllamas so approx how much money did this cost
The cam? 5k ish
Hello, why go Pro-charger vs Torqstorm?
It was a brand I trusted.
@@dasllamas thank you! How’s the transmission and transfer case holding up?
@neuromancer7280 sold the car a couple of years ago. Last I checked, it was still running great.
So what’s the biggest tire we can run on all four being the same! Awd
275 I think? Good question for the awd mopar owners group on facebook
275 55 19? Also can u just buy hellcat rims and tires or Daytona stock and put them on?
@@RealMoneyMakingRich hellcat offset is like 20mm. It will fit but stick way out. Tire size is 275/40r20 but will stick out a little bit on the stock rt rims. Im going to stay with 245/45r20
How much does the pro charger effect your MPG?
I only lost about 3 mpg. Most of m driving is highway though
Have you had the car Dyno'd? I am curious to your HP and Torque created after attaching the pro-charger.
First dyno after procharger only was 508 AWHP and 502 tq on a mustang dyno.
@@dasllamas I'm surprised you found a dyno that could do AWD cars - or did you disconnect the FWD and use a regular dyno?
@@IaintTheHerb awd dyno at rains precision motorsports in Littleton CO. Same reason why I had him build the car. He knows whats up
Can we run 305s or 315s on our awd cars just in the back or will that not work of coarse we’ll need different rims also?!
You need to have all 4 tires the same diameter/circumference. Staggering on awd is a bad idea because if you wear the rear faster than the front then you risk damaging the awd. Tolerance is about 2/32 difference.
I used to know the correct size to do offset but just because you can doesn't mean you should.
I believe the only close match in front and rear circumference is 245/45r20 in the front and 275/40r20 in the rear. Gives a circumference of 90.1" front and 90" rear
dasllamas I found those sizes in p zero Pirelli do u thinks it’s worthy he purchase and they will sit on my rim flush if I have 235 55 19 rite now rite
Also u need to race growl garage I got my money on you
@@RealMoneyMakingRich we compaired 1/4 track time slips and we literally are the same. Now if you consider I am high altitude and he is not I am the faster car.
I wonder if my 6.1 would hold up to a small amount of boost
I know for sure your block is good for it. You have a forged crank stock too. I dont have enough experience with the 6.1 to give you solid advice
@@dasllamas okay I appreciate the input. I'm doing research right now
Does the coolant tank have to be moved for the procharger?
Coolant tank is replaced with the one from procharger
@@dasllamas awesome appreciate your fast response!!
How does the trans hold up
Held up just fine. Used torque management in the tune to keep things safe and I dont drive like an a$$
@dasllamas you have the nag1 trans right I'm looking to boost my 2015 police charger with hellcat blower I just wanted to know what I was in store for the trans it has the same transmission
I have a procharged rt. I'm getting very up and down boost. Any ideas?
Check for leaks. Procharger has terrible welds
@@dasllamas will do. Thanks for advice
Where’d you get those lights and how’s your gas mileage
The lights are made by spyder i have a couple install videos on them. My gas milage is around 18 mpg but mostly highway driving.
Do they work with factory HID’s?
@@Yourprouddad you have to order the kit made for factory hid. They have 2 kits. Mine are factory hid so if you decide to go with this kit I have a video showing how to do the wiring.
@@Yourprouddad hid wiring video here. th-cam.com/video/6YXhfQZxX4Y/w-d-xo.html
Have u ever used pedal commander on your awd what do think about it? Waste of money?!
Save your money don't but a pedal commander. 3600 stall torque converter costs $900 plus install that with that you actually get a better 0-60. Also with my custom tune the throttle response is tuned. Sure I can't adjust it but it is set where it needs to be. If I want the throttle to open faster Ill just jab the gas pedal faster.
Some people like rt life and growls garage swear by it but it's a gimmick in my opinion.
dasllamas what brand did u go with?
@@RealMoneyMakingRich i went with FTI. Ftiperformance.com
dasllamas lol last question what are the two holes under the hood that say u and d on the left and right side with the arrow between them! Also can I install hood pins using them?
@@RealMoneyMakingRich never noticed them before. Ill have to look at them but don't have an answer for you. Also I don't have any experience with hood pins
I have 326 to the wheels with a 2018 Daytona 5.7 n my 0-60 best is 4.9. 1 second off the 0-60 for over 8 grand..nah...
What density altitude are you at. Im at 6200 altitude and my air da is typically 8000 feet. If you dont understand how this works out for power at sea level feel free to google it and educate yourself
How much boost were you runing?
At time of video 7 psi. Currently 9 psi
@@dasllamas still stock bottom end?
Can Glenn help me also? 2014 R/T AWD
Just starting, walk me down the path.. I live in Denver also.
Give them a call. Jim will answer the phone. They will give you options and help you plan your build. You can go 1 step at a time or go all in right away. 3037483043
where does the coolant reservoir go?
Replaces the factory one
Same spot just different shape
1/8 mile time ?
7.8-7.9. At 7000+ air da
Stock trans?
Yes
is that legal
Is what legal? The procharger? Yes it is but I can only speak for my local laws
Do you have a tazer to unlock the srt pages?
Yes I do. Still running an older firmware so I don't have to marry my taser and can unlock menus for other people.
Been thinking of getting one. Is there any down side to it?
@@H2ULTRA the cost of $250 is the only down side
Nice car! I'm in Colorado too and procharged as well. I just installed a meth kit on mine and I saw RPM is a snow performance dealer, do they carry meth at their shop?
Yes they do. He will soon start making his own water meth blend too if you are interested in that. If you stop in tell Glenn I said hello and I believe Jordan is their new service writer.
You in the metro area? You drive a mopar? Are you part of CDCC? Race at the track at all?
Edit. D1x Z71 duh. You are a Chevy guy
@@dasllamas Sounds good I've just been mixing my own, but I want to get the real stuff lol
I'm in a Silverado and the sounds procharger makes are crazy! I'm in the northern metro area around Thornton.
@@marcosg6406 I'm south of denver. If you race at bandimere maybe we can run on the track for fun some day
@@dasllamas Sounds good !
What was the total cost after everything?
Im at about 17,000. Im doing a cam right now so puts me around 20,000
@@dasllamas to much for me lol
@@richardhoover7235 too much for me too haha
What size injectors are you running
Currently fic 600 (might be 700 have to look again. We change them a few times)
@@dasllamas thank you i want to put a procharger in my magnum
@@shanem4764 do it! We need more fast Maggies
👍🏼
Is that all you have is a pro charger
Video covers many of the mods that were installed. Intro alone covered 4 additional mods
Turn up the boost get a drag shaft, big rear end tires and nitrous. Then you’ll be chasing the 10s 😂😂
Man the t case and front diff would never hold it hahaha
300 hp + 180 maybe...thats 480 not over 600...Dyno?!?!?
Full dyno run showing 619 awhp and 560 tq Ok thanks
th-cam.com/video/kn25nys2ZaE/w-d-xo.html
15000 miles? Big deal!
Guess what next year it will be 30 k feel free to check back. Giving updates as times goes on. Not many people out there updating on longevity
dasllamas if that mexican motor does not implode
@@jonpeterson9539 better than your schwinn. Post up what you got or quit runnin your mouth
I know its faster, but drag racing in an automatic looks boring.
It is. Just hit the gas and hold on. Unfortunately the charger only comes in an automatic and to convert to 6 speed is about $10,000
automatics are boring
Thank you for your comment that contributes nothing to the video. Chargers only come in an automatic and if it didn't cost about $10,000 to do an M6 swap I would do it.