THE LAUREN AGEE CASE

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  • @sageseeker9197
    @sageseeker9197 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16276

    "The bite mark was an injury she sustained falling down."
    Oh yes because mountains and rocks bite now.

    • @hahahahahaha2214
      @hahahahahaha2214 5 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      SageSeeker lmaooo, ikr 😬!

    • @card3475
      @card3475 5 ปีที่แล้ว +388

      r u fucking stupid? of course they do.

    • @emily1332
      @emily1332 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      SageSeeker I’m desd💀😂

    • @miriamllamas224
      @miriamllamas224 5 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Maybe it looked like a bite mark, but it wasn't.

    • @mariareyes129
      @mariareyes129 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@miriamllamas224, HUH?

  • @demonqueen4ever125
    @demonqueen4ever125 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3487

    If she fell 90 feet she would have broken bones and more bruises

    • @maimellou
      @maimellou 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      amanda johnson The_Love_ Therapist but it was on water so maybe she just fell near the rocks and got bruises like that but idk

    • @Goniocephala
      @Goniocephala 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Maimelløu yes but they did tests and they all landed on rocks

    • @ariannabowman3077
      @ariannabowman3077 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      yes i agree but at the same time it was on water and she was intoxicated and stuff always hurts less when your not sober

    • @cwolff27
      @cwolff27 5 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      @@ariannabowman3077 It doesn't matter if it "hurts" less, you still will break bones.You don't get drunk and suddenly become immune to injuries, otherwise, I'd have a lot less than I have historically gotten. And honestly? If you can legally drive a car at .08 and she was only at .16, that is barely that drunk.

    • @alexisburrows3228
      @alexisburrows3228 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@cwolff27 What about the documentary with a man who survived a tornado attack when he was knocked unconscious and thrown up in the air. While unconscious, his bones were able to evenly distribute the force and while he was sore, no major damage had been done. Now that was a single case of course, but it does not erase the credibility of bones sustaining damaging.
      Bruising, yes, there would definitely be more if she had fallen. It's inevitable. You can bruise without breaking a bone. But if you break a bone, there has to be bruising.

  • @CottonCandySkie
    @CottonCandySkie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9966

    Just found out the case is being reopened! Let justice be served

    • @CottonCandySkie
      @CottonCandySkie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +305

      Crows - B4 - Hoes yes you should check out the podcast about the case by the private investigator, it’s all happening now. The podcast is Without Warning by Sheila Wysocki....so interesting

    • @ThuyTran-sy6tz
      @ThuyTran-sy6tz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      So good to hear. Hope justice will finally be served.

    • @cookingwithmama2523
      @cookingwithmama2523 5 ปีที่แล้ว +208

      saddly I don't think they will be able to prove anything unless one of the "friends" talk

    • @chyanj2715
      @chyanj2715 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Does the reopening of the case need signatures?

    • @aaniyahhardwell9237
      @aaniyahhardwell9237 5 ปีที่แล้ว +305

      What sucks is that they didn’t take the rape kit or try to get DNA. It’s gonna be a lot harder to solve the case now. 🤦🏾‍♀️

  • @ilovethehungergames467
    @ilovethehungergames467 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2311

    wasnt her clothes?? sharing a hammock with someone she doesn't know?? had a tampon in when she wasn't on her period?? bite mark?? no water in the lungs? in the water where she could NOT of fallen herself?? Aaron knows that Laurens body was in the water? not enough bruises and scratches. 90FT DROP. SHE WOULD BE BLACK AND BLUE.
    none of the friends attended the funeral??
    "best weekend ever"
    not even a rape test?
    very very sketchy. a girl DEFINITELY helped. a girl put the clothes on her and found a bra that fit her. they would know and put the tampon in her to stop police thinking she was assaulted?? and what boy knows how to put a tampon in??

    • @user-oj7mz2kv9x
      @user-oj7mz2kv9x 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      facts.

    • @ilovethehungergames467
      @ilovethehungergames467 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @Coco the Cat haha i didnt think about it like that. sorry for offending you if i did i was just stating that not alot of girls know how to put one in let alone a boy. i was just saying that's its very sketchy and that a girl must've helped haha. didn't mean to offend u if i did x

    • @josukehigashikata5397
      @josukehigashikata5397 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @Coco the Cat you mean trans men???? Ftm is a term for trans men.
      Either way, yeah i agree. I dont think most cismen know how vaginas work.

    • @tierraislame3922
      @tierraislame3922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      YES THIS IS SO MESSED UP

    • @hsparrow5547
      @hsparrow5547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@josukehigashikata5397 what does it mean in regards to trans men? I’ve only ever seen that mean first time mum

  • @lajebenjamin8492
    @lajebenjamin8492 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7900

    Cases like these aren’t really “unsolved” they just are too lazy to take actual action to find out

    • @applecrumpies224
      @applecrumpies224 4 ปีที่แล้ว +313

      Not lazy just corrupted.

    • @snag3822
      @snag3822 4 ปีที่แล้ว +237

      what if the police were paid off or something like that. it’s really ridiculous the amount of proof against her “friends” it’s hard to believe they thought it was just “accidental” without some kind of set up

    • @julespoopoology
      @julespoopoology 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      when your scared to use tampoons: tHanK yOu :D aNoThEr rEasOn tHaT i sHouLdNt uSe eM :D

    • @21_f_aus
      @21_f_aus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      The police are corrupt, wouldn't be surprised if they were paid off

    • @mialloyd1543
      @mialloyd1543 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The accuracy, 😂

  • @yourmaw8790
    @yourmaw8790 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3465

    smells like a cover up tbh, i wouldnt be surprised if one of those "friends" has a cop father, or a politician mom or whatever.

    • @christiemon7066
      @christiemon7066 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      💯💯💯

    • @dianamendoza9644
      @dianamendoza9644 4 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      I thought the same. One of them probably has a family member that's a cop

    • @snag3822
      @snag3822 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      yeah that’s exactly what i thought

    • @D-me-dream-smp
      @D-me-dream-smp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      Also the fact they were at a big festival means they may have also been concerned about negatively affecting tourism in the area.

    • @Aaron-rd3cd
      @Aaron-rd3cd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      They would most likely have to be higher in the ranks than just a cop your average cop has zero power on cases like this. It’s more down to the department itself on what decisions are made and how much effort is put into cases not a single cop unless that cop was closely associated to a higher ranked member

  • @beautybyjulia4369
    @beautybyjulia4369 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3602

    The scariest part of all these videos is the mom ALWAYS. Have a bad feeling MOTHERS INTUITION

    • @szaisbetterthanyou
      @szaisbetterthanyou 5 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Beauty By Julia always trust mothers intuition

    • @fallenstarctat
      @fallenstarctat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I was your 1000th like wow

    • @littlemarshy6532
      @littlemarshy6532 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Beauty By Julia that’s why I listen to my mom whenever she says stuff like that

    • @courtneybobbitt1531
      @courtneybobbitt1531 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Is this why we are scared of our mother

    • @Glapizoid
      @Glapizoid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      It’s always the “gut feeling” always listen to that gut feeling

  • @Schiong326
    @Schiong326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3285

    Pretty messed up that her other “friend” didn’t let Lauren stay in the cabin with her. Sleeping on the floor would’ve been better than sleeping on a hammock over the river. Especially since she said she felt unsafe when she stayed there, and especially that Lauren was there with her violent ex-bf!

    • @audreycarys9020
      @audreycarys9020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +288

      yes the fact that she knew who she was staying with makes it really sad that she didnt let her stay in the cabin

    • @aromaladyellie
      @aromaladyellie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +201

      I would imagine the floor space was probably full up as well, but I imagine too that this friend feels so guilty now even if there was nothing she could have done differently.

    • @leighloveshorror6503
      @leighloveshorror6503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      I thought the same , I’d be wrecked with guilt if I was her

    • @tianaparkes5780
      @tianaparkes5780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@audreycarys9020 fr violent ex should have been a. Hint oh let me ask my freind if she wants to sleep. In the cabin with me away from her crazy ex this is exactly why my freind group. Is small. Just with two people

    • @amy8135
      @amy8135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yessir

  • @maddiejoy6619
    @maddiejoy6619 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5834

    A woman helped cover this up. A woman would know how to find a bra that fit her convincingly. A woman would have a tampon and know how to insert it. A woman would have extra clothes that would fit her. I don’t know if it was her “friend” or not, but a woman was involved.

    • @laura182x9
      @laura182x9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +274

      must’ve been her “mate”

    • @charlotteqmcgee
      @charlotteqmcgee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +583

      @Jenna Garcia The Cuban Correction: Everyone should look out for each other.

    • @thestellastuff7521
      @thestellastuff7521 5 ปีที่แล้ว +253

      Maddie Joy I thought about that. Especially with the tampon. It seems there was prior knowledge involved that very few guys have

    • @chelsea2776
      @chelsea2776 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      soooo true

    • @aflairforthe.evi.
      @aflairforthe.evi. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@thestellastuff7521 but like you said only *few* men don't have that knowledge. There could be a man involved that knew how to do all the women stuff

  • @starlighteuu
    @starlighteuu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1811

    this poor girl had no real friends.
    Aaron is a high suspect, i think all three are involved, chris probably helped dispose the body.

    • @emmajayne_3018
      @emmajayne_3018 5 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      I agree, if they were in a hammock together surely he would’ve felt the movement of someone taking her or her moving, they need to investigate this further

    • @jinswindshieldwiperlaughbt128
      @jinswindshieldwiperlaughbt128 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do You know VIXX?

    • @nobodyyesyes
      @nobodyyesyes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that too.

    • @del4033
      @del4033 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@emmajayne_3018 he might be a deep sleeper but I see your point

    • @emmagalaxies9167
      @emmagalaxies9167 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean how else did Aaron know where she was in the water before one the police got there and two before really anyone knew someone was there expect for the fishermen...

  • @beehappy3845
    @beehappy3845 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2171

    How can it be accidental drowning with no water in her lungs frustrates me so much

    • @-anaamna5616
      @-anaamna5616 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      It can't be drowning if there is no water in her lungs. So I wonder if that was actually mentioned on the medical report? There was no water in her lungs?

    • @jaelynnkim1801
      @jaelynnkim1801 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jesus Take the wheel hahahaha am I right?

    • @jenpickering
      @jenpickering 6 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Dry drowning, no water enters the lungs as the throat becomes irritated and closes preventing air and water from entering the lungs.

    • @beehappy3845
      @beehappy3845 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Jen Pickering you learn something new every day thanks for filling me in 🙂

    • @Corinthians1614
      @Corinthians1614 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Even so dry drowning and secondary drowning usually happen when someone exists the water. This girl was raped, murdered, and thrown into the water. I honestly think Hannah did it along with at least one of the guys. Idk why, but I don’t know any guy that would think of finding a bra that relatively fit her AND thought to use a tampon to deter investigators from looking into sexual assault. Whoever was the medical examiner in this case was an absolute idiot

  • @sugarspells8781
    @sugarspells8781 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3229

    It's obvious that the three of them killed her.
    1. Lauren wanted to go home. She probably didn't feel safe.
    2. How can two people sleep in one of those hammocks? Even if they can, why would Lauren? Also How could Lauren climb out of it without waking up the guy? Hammocks move A LOT.
    3. Those people continued at the festival even after finding out about their "friend's" death. Not to mention that they called it "The best weekend".
    4. They didn't attend her funeral.
    5. Mean comments traced to them.
    6. The injuries.
    7. The dummies didn't reach the water when dropped from the cliff.
    8. Lauren was floating, her lungs had no water.
    9. Abusive and violent behaviour of one of the guy.
    10. Lauren's body was too far and in the opposite direction of the campsite.
    These many coincidences is not a coincidence.

    • @saoirseharry5160
      @saoirseharry5160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +159

      Exactly, and I've seen a few comments about how her tampon was in and I highly doubt that Lauren would have just had one on and if she didn't and it was put there on purpose I doubt a. Man would know how to properly put one in so I had to have been the other girl on the trip. So we know for sure that she was involved in some way

    • @sramain257
      @sramain257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      The police are so stupid

    • @kalyani2443
      @kalyani2443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      I agree they probably killed her in her sleep/strangled her and throw it away far away from the place and definitely a planed murder cz they even go overnight in other place

    • @kalyani2443
      @kalyani2443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@saoirseharry5160 omg yes the other girl friend probably put it in just so police or anything don't find out she was raped or something

    • @saoirseharry5160
      @saoirseharry5160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kalyani2443 I agreeee

  • @caitlinevvy387
    @caitlinevvy387 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4070

    I'm not being funny, but does nobody realise how difficult it is to get out of a hammock? If Lauren fell, or even tried to leave, surely the guy she was in the hammock with would have felt it, or woken up?

    • @taylorcunningham2594
      @taylorcunningham2594 6 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      I guess you've never been passed out drunk and/or drugged.

    • @agirlnameddrool9051
      @agirlnameddrool9051 6 ปีที่แล้ว +347

      @@taylorcunningham2594 I feel like if she fell off he would've fallen too or at least woken up on the ground

    • @gt4436
      @gt4436 6 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      It is actually easier to get out of a hammock when someone is in it because the second person serves as an anchor

    • @jordyn8619
      @jordyn8619 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      He might of thought she went to the toilet or something

    • @frqwolf
      @frqwolf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      exactly

  • @Ines_iiii
    @Ines_iiii 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1470

    Her 3 “friends “ did it ..
    Best weekend ever huh
    I hope they open her case again and gets justice that’s just sad

    • @Lili-ew7cl
      @Lili-ew7cl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Someone in the comments said that case is opened again..

    • @Maria-kp4ws
      @Maria-kp4ws 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Lili-ew7cl ok this is so random but nctzen..hi tHeRe

    • @Lili-ew7cl
      @Lili-ew7cl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seo changbin hhiii I don’t know what to say but I’m so happy and I don’t why I’m this happy😭😭

    • @Maria-kp4ws
      @Maria-kp4ws 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Lili-ew7cl HAHAHAHA HI THERE FELLOW NCTZEN🥺🥺

    • @Lili-ew7cl
      @Lili-ew7cl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seo changbin hii sissy🥺

  • @TheChgz
    @TheChgz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2638

    It makes me SO angry that the police are so useless in these situations.

    • @willahladun334
      @willahladun334 5 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      Right? People are always like "wow serial killers are so smart", and it's like no, they're usually average, but the police bungle the case so badly that they get away with their crimes

    • @user-ml3wk5ql1v
      @user-ml3wk5ql1v 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Willa Hladun exactly!! when watching these videos i find it so easy to connect the dots

    • @laiboros9381
      @laiboros9381 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@user-ml3wk5ql1v you can't arrest someone just with "dots".

    • @miriam4001
      @miriam4001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I know, it’s stupid! Bite marks from falling down? And not trying to match her friends teeth to the bite mark...

    • @azureazlon3947
      @azureazlon3947 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tik Tok its hard to do, its complicated, its not really exact. Many people were framed for this, so, its not that of a forensic tool police use.

  • @caillouisadropout8992
    @caillouisadropout8992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1880

    The police should’ve compared Aaron’s teeth shape to the shape of the bite mark.

    • @haileeromano
      @haileeromano 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      RIGHT THATS WHAT I WAS SAYING

    • @tamarapolacka2357
      @tamarapolacka2357 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      thats exactly what i said

    • @spellcxster9268
      @spellcxster9268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      yup, too bad the police are either 1) lazy, or 2) corrupt. or both.

    • @ghost-vk9hu
      @ghost-vk9hu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      bite marks are actually realy bad for evidence, tbite mark comparisons arent and shouldnt be used for evidence. there was this one murder case where they wrongfully convicted someone bc of a bite mark, he spent 40 years in prison until they found out he wasnt the killer. they shouldve done a rape kit for sure though. and maybe look for his dna on the bite mark

    • @caillouisadropout8992
      @caillouisadropout8992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@ghost-vk9hu all I know is there could’ve been more done to case

  • @hannahwilson2329
    @hannahwilson2329 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2673

    Hammocks swings so much at just the slightest movement so if Chris and Lauren were sharing a hammock Chris would have woken up when Lauren got out or was taken out.

    • @hearmeout2078
      @hearmeout2078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      I think that as much as that thing you said is true, he could have probably been too drunk to wake up

    • @ghost-husband
      @ghost-husband 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      That's a good point, he would have had to felt her get up

    • @rachelarmer1339
      @rachelarmer1339 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Exactly!

    • @s2lLandals2
      @s2lLandals2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      I'd probably say that unless he was blackout drunk, he has something to do with this death, he was pretty much glued to her body.

    • @karenmuffjeppesen8866
      @karenmuffjeppesen8866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      True and when the hammock tipped and she fell out, either he would fall too, or he would get tangled up in the hammock and proberbly wake up.

  • @ghosto.o1704
    @ghosto.o1704 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2807

    I can't understand why they didn't try matching the 3 "friends" teeth to the bite mark she had

    • @adav19
      @adav19 5 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      Ghost O.O it’s not an exact science. People have been falsely accused for that before, so they no longer consider it to be a proper forensic identification tool 🤷🏼‍♀️.

    • @terriberri87
      @terriberri87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      It's hard to do. The only reason they could match Ted bundy to the bite marks of the sorority girls was because he had a very distinct bite with crooked teeth. If all three had normal teeth you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between them.

    • @nazzzirismail
      @nazzzirismail 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ghost O.O sorry but bite mark analysis is never going to work

    • @nazzzirismail
      @nazzzirismail 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Headhotdog Robert lee Stinson?

    • @libbyunique8664
      @libbyunique8664 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They never tried because they ruled it as accidental falling.

  • @Soggyramen17
    @Soggyramen17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7179

    No sane person puts a tampon in just incase, have you ever pulled one of those things out dry? Its hell

  • @jewels2692
    @jewels2692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6545

    youve heard of the hills have eyes, now get ready for: the cliffs have teeth

    • @mrshoran2201
      @mrshoran2201 4 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      underrated comment 🤣

    • @Lucy-yc5if
      @Lucy-yc5if 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      I'm I'm dying I can't 😂😂😂😭

    • @drewbarnes4009
      @drewbarnes4009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Get ready for volcanos have ears

    • @piranhasaurusrex
      @piranhasaurusrex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Oh lord...i am only starting this but I can't wait to see what this means

    • @piranhasaurusrex
      @piranhasaurusrex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Oh man...smh

  • @Chialingling
    @Chialingling 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1297

    "best weekend ever"
    they totally killed her. and if they didn't, they are incredibly heartless.

    • @MD-gz5yw
      @MD-gz5yw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Pretty well proves guilt right there and the IP address. If they didn't do anything why trash Lauren's memory. As a Mother, I would never rest till I got them. Poor Lauren, her intuition was going off and her fate was not one she chose. Heartbreaking case.

    • @allie4119
      @allie4119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I like your pfp
      Idk how to change mine 💀💀💀

    • @Chialingling
      @Chialingling 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@allie4119 thanks I've had it ages but still makes me chuckle. I think you just have to change the picture in your google account in settings :)

  • @Zazabazaa
    @Zazabazaa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1151

    Literally EVERYTHING about this case is suspicious.

  • @angelabordack
    @angelabordack 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4466

    The friends covered the crime up. There just isn’t enough evidence to prosecute. I know this case really well.

    • @mishmash3968
      @mishmash3968 6 ปีที่แล้ว +440

      Angela Bordack it is really sad. Most of us have been in those situations where everything sounds fine and dandy until you’re stuck somewhere with some shady characters and shitty friends and try everything to get yourself out of that situation. Maybe not to this extreme, but relatable. I feel terrible for her family because they know those 3 know exactly what happened and at least one murdered her.

    • @angelabordack
      @angelabordack 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Mish mash Exactly!! Completely agree with you.

    • @traceyjoy7554
      @traceyjoy7554 6 ปีที่แล้ว +182

      Same here. I am quarter way through the video. I've already heard new stuff that happened on the trip. Her friends suck! Sorry but if your friend needs a place to crash you make room knowing the spot she was going was dangerous. Also the group she slept with did it. The bruising on her body shaped as the pointed end of the canoe proves she was moved & the canoe was used.

    • @the_eerie_faerie_tales
      @the_eerie_faerie_tales 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yep I agree - I know this case really well too.

    • @kimballlynn2123
      @kimballlynn2123 6 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      I agree, I've looked into this case quite a bit and I've never been able to believe that it was an accident. Those 3 "friends" are *_extremely suspicious,_* and sadly I think they obviously did something to her and covered it up. I've wondered if Wakefest makes a lot of money, and also money for the surrounding area and there was a lot of pressure to find it as an accidental death. I don't know, but I feel terrible for family, especially her poor mother. 😖

  • @GeorgieFosterHoran
    @GeorgieFosterHoran 4 ปีที่แล้ว +856

    Everyone needs a friend like Cassie.
    Lauren: we’re camping on the cliff but I don’t want to
    Cassie: I’d never stay there again I didn’t feel safe the whole time.
    Lauren: can I stay with you please?
    Cassie: no.

    • @ava130
      @ava130 4 ปีที่แล้ว +178

      Wasn’t she also the one who dated Lauren’s boyfriend Aaron and said he was abusive?? Lauren had some real terrible “friends.”

    • @Fernanda-jx6ep
      @Fernanda-jx6ep 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ava130 yep, she was

    • @minakoaino7043
      @minakoaino7043 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      She didn't say no, she said they were full......

    • @whyamiapony6575
      @whyamiapony6575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ava130 *Hannah’s boyfriend, Lauren had her boyfriend back home

    • @violetsmokes5815
      @violetsmokes5815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@minakoaino7043 then sleep on the damn floor or find another cabin.

  • @Nico_2202
    @Nico_2202 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1669

    How was the cabin full?? There has to be a couch?? Or space on the floor??

    • @juliagamble5681
      @juliagamble5681 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Twenty One Pilots Falling Out At The Disco true

    • @passthebutter6037
      @passthebutter6037 5 ปีที่แล้ว +290

      Twenty One Pilots Falling Out At The Disco exactly! All the “friends” in this case are absolute garbage

    • @steddieisreal2780
      @steddieisreal2780 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Maybe this isn’t the right time but hello clikkie

    • @orelshapey
      @orelshapey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      bath time tyler ||-//

    • @appleid7598
      @appleid7598 5 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Sometimes rental cabins have a limit of people allowed in it. Ofc most people would ignore that rule because you probably wouldn't get caught. But if you break rules like that in some situations they kick you out of the cabin and you don't get your money back.

  • @Plasticplas1
    @Plasticplas1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8046

    This is why we need more female detectives.

    • @paintedsmut5472
      @paintedsmut5472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +720

      This is why we need more competent detectives.

    • @elizabethk1334
      @elizabethk1334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Countess Damara yes you are right

    • @angelika_munkastrap4634
      @angelika_munkastrap4634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +348

      Trust me, female detectives can be pretty heartless too.
      My male roommate and I have a female friend who one night was sexually assaulted and harassed while crossing a bridge in the city. She called my roommate, who at the time wasn't living with me yet, and he convinced her to go to the police and make a report. She was too uncomfortable to go alone, so he went with her. It was late at night so there were very few detectives still in the station and they got two female detectives. You would think great right? Two females will understand what I just went through. NOOOOOO. One detective was cold and heartless, asked her what she was wearing to provoke it, did she come on to the guy, was she currently sleeping with anyone, was she even currently sleeping with my friend who had gone with her to make the report, the detective even hit on my male roommate while they were there!!!
      THEN came the worst bit, they found a case file from a few years before that showed where our female friend had called and reported an intruder in her house. At the time, the police had taken so long to get there that the person was long gone. And they accused her of making a false report and said next time she did that that they'd sue her. So I guess the report was already negative. So these bitchy female detectives pull out the case file and say ohhhhh I see here you've reported a false case before. Was this "assault" on the bridge part of your imagination too?
      I mean cmonnnnnn I've never heard such a horror story in my life when my roommate told me about this. No wonder people don't report things. It's not a court room you have to worry about, it's the bloody detectives taking down your account!!!

    • @user-js7ll7ir5d
      @user-js7ll7ir5d 4 ปีที่แล้ว +134

      Munkastrap4 i- im so so sorry that happened to her. thats so shocking and theres so many things wrong there i dokt know what to say. how is your friend doing now? i hope shes coping with those experiences

    • @angelika_munkastrap4634
      @angelika_munkastrap4634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I think she's happy with our support and that we always believe in her.
      But it would put you off reporting things wouldn't it?

  • @AliGiavanni
    @AliGiavanni 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2203

    her poor mom :( mothers intuition is always right

    • @lilmonstersmakeup5145
      @lilmonstersmakeup5145 6 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      The thing is women have such good intuition! Always believe your gut if it says something is iffy! My bestfriend was smoking pot(which she’s done before just not with these two) with two boys, she asked for water both boys went upstairs and when they gave her the water she took a drink and her gut told her to get out of there, she had a panic attack which they say happens when your date rape drugged, she left the house and sat in her car and had her mom pick her up, she threw up in the car, passed out when she got home, me and her did research and her systems were those of the date rape drug GHB (I think) so I always say follow your gut and if u drink something and feel weird after, get out of there!!!!

    • @taeyeons
      @taeyeons 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@lilmonstersmakeup5145 that's so terrifying, i'm glad she listened to her gut and got out of there in time

    • @heighton7206
      @heighton7206 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Sooo true! I see this in ALOT of cases.. where the mother had a bad feeling and it ended up she was right . So sad 😞

    • @hehehehehhehehe2248
      @hehehehehhehehe2248 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ikr my heart goes out to her

    • @AntaAutumn
      @AntaAutumn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That is so true... 😞

  • @desiraemassey306
    @desiraemassey306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    I feel that for all suspicious deaths there should always be a mandatory rape kit conducted just in case.

  • @melthompson2856
    @melthompson2856 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1310

    I live on this lake and every time I go by that area, it gives me chills. No way it was an accident.

    • @msmystery4933
      @msmystery4933 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I feel the same

    • @SephSims
      @SephSims 6 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      This case needs to be opened back up.. there is just too much evidence pointing towards sexual assault and sadistic shit. He must have came from behind her and bit her (or pushed her down the hill to get her in the canoe but maybe couldn’t get her all the way in) and attacked her got her on the ground with his knees pinning her down. Then after he couldn’t put her in the canoe gave up and left her in the water and was coming back to get her when the police told him to go. Idk that’s what I think could have happened but she also could have just been super drunk and felt down face first down that cliff thing.

    • @kriskeleigh6956
      @kriskeleigh6956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      i live not far away too. i havent been back to wake fest since this case. it freaks me out to even think about it

    • @daniellelove5922
      @daniellelove5922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is surely murder and the police to sorry to solve her case ... getting paid to do nothing..this girl deserve justice

    • @Andrea_k86
      @Andrea_k86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rest in Paradise Beautiful Mel.❤️❤️

  • @lindsayjanae
    @lindsayjanae 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1026

    I got chills when you said he posted a picture saying “best weekend ever”.... terrifying

  • @Fatima_1446
    @Fatima_1446 6 ปีที่แล้ว +801

    Its so sad that the last people Lauren was with were people who didnt seem to care about her at all.

    • @mishmash3968
      @mishmash3968 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Fatima that Chris guy obviously did because he was the one out looking for her while the two others carried on partying. I would be pressuring the holy shit out of him. Eventually they crack and help solve the case, even if it is decades later... unless they have no soul that is.

  • @mitsukunisen6709
    @mitsukunisen6709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +319

    Dear anyone who has friends:
    Imagine you and a small group of your friends are at a fun little festival. Suddenly, one of your friends literally *dies* - and let's say that for sure, you're all innocent. None of you had anything to do with their death, right? Would you be able to continue on partying at this festival? Would you be mentally sound, mentally stable enough, to stay where your friend had just died? And even if you were, how could you feel safe after something like that? Especially if the most believable, most likely scenario was foul play, how could you continue to stay somewhere where, very likely, a homicide- and of your FRIEND- just took place?
    I call bs. #JusticeForLaurenAgee

    • @relent-lass7510
      @relent-lass7510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      If i had friends and one died during us attending a festival
      No I couldn’t stay I’d go home
      And I couldn’t attend the funeral not because I don’t care,I’d be traumatized and get even more depressed
      I definitely wouldn’t feel safe if I stayed. I’d be overly paranoid

    • @mitsukunisen6709
      @mitsukunisen6709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@relent-lass7510 Exactly. Even if it wasn't someone I was super close with, that's a very traumatic ordeal to experience and go through. I know everyone deals with grief differently, but for all 3 of them to act like they never gave a shit, even with the possibility that there could be a murderer at this festival, is beyond suspicious to me. Either way, I hope this case gets closed soon for her family. ❤️

    • @relent-lass7510
      @relent-lass7510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mitsukunisen6709 she trusted her ‘friends’

    • @relent-lass7510
      @relent-lass7510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mitsukunisen6709 I certainly wouldn’t go back, it’s just a reminder of what happened

    • @mitsukunisen6709
      @mitsukunisen6709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@relent-lass7510 Same, dude, I'd be scarred for life after something like that

  • @nicoler4143
    @nicoler4143 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2336

    Um. I dont know any girl who wears a tampon not on their period... that sounds sketch

    • @szaisbetterthanyou
      @szaisbetterthanyou 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      nicole R very sketch

    • @whyyousotriggered6050
      @whyyousotriggered6050 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Some do its normal for a few different reasons

    • @yasmino.2193
      @yasmino.2193 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I don't personally but some do.

    • @mads9966
      @mads9966 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hannah probably put it in

    • @brittalex7024
      @brittalex7024 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Omg I did in high school when I would black out a lot and it was a preventative measure so I wouldn't have sex and regret it the next day... yes it hurt like hell the next day taking it out but it always worked well for me

  • @sundownsahara
    @sundownsahara 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1131

    The most suspicious part to me is that none of these "friends" stopped going to the festival even though Lauren had died, and not a single one of them went to her funeral. Even if you don't really like one of your friends, you still pay respects, especially in those circumstances.

    • @lazyspudz
      @lazyspudz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Ikr like even the “friend” in the hammock with her. Those things move ALOT when someone moves a tiny bit in them so for him not to wake up or feel someone getting out of a hammock doesn’t seem right to me

    • @karenmuffjeppesen8866
      @karenmuffjeppesen8866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      And you deffinatly don't claim it to be the best weekend ever.

    • @D-me-dream-smp
      @D-me-dream-smp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Exactly they claim friends enough for her to be willing to share a hammock but carry on partying and then to say best weekend ever. They are dodgy as all get out.

    • @crystalmichellef3rg23
      @crystalmichellef3rg23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So true. A family friend died last year, and although he and I really didn't see eye to eye, I still attended his wake out of respect for him...

    • @aleighaG09
      @aleighaG09 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      right personally I would have gotten the hell outta there when I knew someone CLOSE to me died, and not going to her funeral is just fucked up, shows how much they cared.

  • @ellainesmith4143
    @ellainesmith4143 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1749

    Nothing:
    Police: *i GuEsS r0cKs BiTe NoW*

    • @elizabethidk4041
      @elizabethidk4041 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Nobody-
      The mountains-yUmMy *bites*

    • @Ratboyf
      @Ratboyf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Police are so stupid 😒 now this poor girl won't get proper justice

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      @albertschild 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

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    • @sophiaervin5097
      @sophiaervin5097 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@albertschild wow

    • @albertschild
      @albertschild 4 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @haleydorris247
    @haleydorris247 4 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    Lauren is from my hometown. Basically everyone that knows about this case doesn’t believe that it was an accident.

    • @TheALLVEGAS
      @TheALLVEGAS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Kelly psychic mediums have no merit and have been known to actually mislead a case. Regardless, I’m interested to know what new evidence has been introduced

    • @Emilythematerialgurl
      @Emilythematerialgurl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why dotn cops do shit it's disgusting but hey Chris got Karam he's handicapped in a wheel chair from water accident in the same area

  • @zainabahmed9978
    @zainabahmed9978 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1231

    Your mum knows your fake friends before you do :update: holy shit I got 1.2k likes I’m famous

    • @jessellemontano7932
      @jessellemontano7932 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I agree, they know best!

    • @beatricecringecultureisdea4997
      @beatricecringecultureisdea4997 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I hate that this is true, as well. My mum is really good at telling who’s being fake or not. She’s sniffed out two of mine so far and both predictions were correct, they stabbed me in the back.

    • @avavalentine7462
      @avavalentine7462 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zainab Ahmed fr fr

    • @lifewithkaelani3782
      @lifewithkaelani3782 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zainab Ahmed true :(

    • @kerina_perry9694
      @kerina_perry9694 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      💯👌🏼 I have a 17yr old daughter and I tell her each time she brings someone around that I get a bad vibe from... needless to say, I’m always right lol

  • @explosionsfxauuuuugh
    @explosionsfxauuuuugh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2613

    the irony of lauren studying criminal justice though.

    • @lili-zv8zi
      @lili-zv8zi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      D Town it is ironic though.

    • @indiabenjamin403
      @indiabenjamin403 5 ปีที่แล้ว +159

      Down Town she’s studying justice yet she got none

    • @cheyenneguthrie2828
      @cheyenneguthrie2828 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      No, but I have put a tampon in and it came out with nothing on it even though I was previously bleeding

    • @lili-zv8zi
      @lili-zv8zi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Cheyenne Guthrie wrong comment?

    • @squishyreddie3177
      @squishyreddie3177 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Lily bug I hope it is

  • @leamartin8392
    @leamartin8392 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2282

    Thanks Eleanor!! I've never had my case chosen before!! I've been in bed poorly so this was a lovely suprise to wake up to!!

    • @leamartin8392
      @leamartin8392 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@BOO-sy2oz Aww sorry to hear that! I hope you feel better in time for Christmas. Thanks 😊

    • @EleanorNeale
      @EleanorNeale  6 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      Hope you get well soon!! All my love x

    • @leamartin8392
      @leamartin8392 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@EleanorNeale Thanks beautiful! 😊💕

    • @annika_swan5191
      @annika_swan5191 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@EleanorNeale All I want to say about this vid is that it is AMAZING. But. You say sorry WAY too much. You are a truly amazing and committed youtuber and I respect that. People love and respect you and you saying sorry this much makes me feel that you doubt yourself. But I just wanted to let you know that we will always respect and love you. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

    • @leahsynge8817
      @leahsynge8817 6 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Is it me... OR CAN ANYONE SEE A PICTURE OF ELEANOR, NEXT TO LEA MARTINS YOTUBE NAME?

  • @satostia4653
    @satostia4653 4 ปีที่แล้ว +782

    “This man was named Chris Brown...”
    Me: 👁👄👁

  • @cherrywavesenjoyer
    @cherrywavesenjoyer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3516

    Imagine the guilt her mom feels for letting her go. 😭

    • @patstigious857
      @patstigious857 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Fuck Billie eyelash

    • @thefuneralparty_
      @thefuneralparty_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      tia gallagher are you okay dude-

    • @steveywalker2735
      @steveywalker2735 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@patstigious857 what does her/his profile pic have to do with this case

    • @melannie2003
      @melannie2003 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      eye lish or the friend who didn’t pick her up 😕

    • @kimberlyarrington5721
      @kimberlyarrington5721 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Honey She was already 18 her mom couldn't stop her

  • @Chloe-ef1kl
    @Chloe-ef1kl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1809

    Karma is real and those three ‘friends’ will rot

    • @aharper625
      @aharper625 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Cleo careful what you say. Some people are innocent and you have no idea what the truth is, nor do you know what people are going through.

    • @Chloe-ef1kl
      @Chloe-ef1kl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Lovely Lady well If they did nothing karma wouldn’t have to act would it?

    • @sundrops4917
      @sundrops4917 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@aharper625 they were saying horrible things about laura and her death

    • @aharper625
      @aharper625 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And how do you know what they were saying? Did you hear it from their mouth? Is there a recording of it? Do you know them personally?

    • @Chloe-ef1kl
      @Chloe-ef1kl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Lovely Lady if you speak ill of someone, for no reason, then karma will get you. How is this so hard to get?

  • @margotalmanzar5210
    @margotalmanzar5210 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2134

    Oh my god I can’t believe her friend didn’t let her stay in the cabin...if a friend (or even an obviously distressed stranger) told me they felt unsafe (and I know it’s unsafe) and wanted to stay in my cabin. Even if it was full I’d let them stay. I’d make them a bed on the floor or I’d push 2 beds together and 3 of us can get in it...damn you gotta look out for each other..especially at a festival 😢

    • @ayladickens6470
      @ayladickens6470 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Ikr friends mean everything

    • @steph4133
      @steph4133 6 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      I agree with the especially at a festival bit, some parts of most festivals are really dodgy and I would hope my friends wouldn’t leave me to feel unsafe, especially if I hadn’t put myself in a unsafe situation on purpose. However, I imagine this girl’s guilt because of this will be enough punishment for a lifetime

    • @cmilah1350
      @cmilah1350 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I mean a friend is understandable I would try to make some space for him/her but a stranger...some people just benefit from others kindness who knows if that stranger would be the cause of your death...Always be cautious

    • @nolaeve8151
      @nolaeve8151 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hannah Broadbeans that’s so true 😩😯

    • @mac3ymace
      @mac3ymace 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      But what if it were a creepy ass dude, dressed in all black, looks sketchy, LOOKS LIKE A SERIAL KILLER, asked you "Hey, I feel very unsafe out here. Can I stay in your cabin/house just for this night?"
      tho i do understand if it were an innocent lookin person.

  • @ANDREA-kk2gx
    @ANDREA-kk2gx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    I mean Cassie couldn't let her sleep on the floor in the cabin?!

    • @datgirlkaelyn
      @datgirlkaelyn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      For real 🙄

    • @GeminiMama6
      @GeminiMama6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I thought the same thing. Like, she wasn't some random stranger.

    • @aaliyaherinn
      @aaliyaherinn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      right.

    • @maddisonfagan7689
      @maddisonfagan7689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Exactly she admitted she was with Hannahs boyfriend and she said he was abusive through out the relationship. Also she admits that she would always get a cabin that she didn't feel safe camping why the fuck would u say no if u have been in that same situation?!

    • @alleecat23
      @alleecat23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Right?! If my friend tells me she’s legitimately scared of her sleeping situation, girrrl you spooning with me tonight even if it means we’re both sleeping on the floor or in the tub! She had some TERRIBLE friends!!!

  • @set124
    @set124 6 ปีที่แล้ว +576

    This definitely wasn’t an accident, this is such an upsetting case

    • @set124
      @set124 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Its also so odd that they concluded that she had drown when she didnt even have water in her lungs??

    • @ayajade6683
      @ayajade6683 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@set124 dry drowning is a thing it can be triggered by a teaspoon of water getting in the lungs. Same process as drowning just without water in the lungs

  • @allycatt25
    @allycatt25 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3039

    I kinda wish Lauren got hurt jumping off that cliff but.. I don’t mean it in a bad way she would of went to hospital and possibly of been safe 😔

    • @swimloaf6894
      @swimloaf6894 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      XxTimelessxX it’s so tragic😭

    • @kimballlynn2123
      @kimballlynn2123 6 ปีที่แล้ว +247

      Yeah, just enough to decide to go home. Poor girl.

    • @ashleywilliams9732
      @ashleywilliams9732 6 ปีที่แล้ว +162

      I was thinking the same thing. Then she could have gone to the hospital and her mom could have come and got her.

    • @user-df3ms9gk2i
      @user-df3ms9gk2i 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      XxTimelessxX I don’t think she did fall down

    • @bibundtinafurimmer7659
      @bibundtinafurimmer7659 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      I know! Then her mum would have been able to have her daughter back. God it’s horrible

  • @kieran8584
    @kieran8584 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1002

    For those of you who don't know, it has been known that there was actually 5 of them in a group. The 5th was a man name Brixner who has a history of violence and is said to be a generally violent man. There is no achonowledgement of him in any of the statements from the 3 in question. Its generally believed they covered his appearance as he left the camp the same morning Lauren was found.
    Edit: Just read that not only did Brixner leave the camp that same morning, he left the entire state and hired himself a lawyer. HE IS THE PRIME SUSPECT FOR ME.

    • @15LittleDreamer15
      @15LittleDreamer15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      Brixner Gambell was 28 at the time... I bet he was that “older man” witnesses saw her with. Where did he sleep?

    • @fuqit88
      @fuqit88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Wow! And do the cops even know about this guy?? Or did they really F this one up!!

    • @kieran8584
      @kieran8584 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@fuqit88 I think they did, hell if the internet knew then they must. But it's all 1 big massive cover up from the start.

    • @fuqit88
      @fuqit88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@kieran8584 I meant at the time of the murder, not now lol!! I cannot see no one at the festival not mentioning him to police since these people were a five-some, not foursome. It amazes me these jokers could pull the wool over these cops eyes. This little bitch left the state and lawyered up before the body was cold! That sayez " hey....its me.....creepy older guy!!"

    • @REUBENITESISINTHEFAITH
      @REUBENITESISINTHEFAITH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh wow !!!! You so called AMERICANS ain't shit.

  • @jelly6252
    @jelly6252 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    the gut feeling of the mom really breakes my heart

  • @miajay9448
    @miajay9448 6 ปีที่แล้ว +822

    I think they planned to kill Lauren previous to the festival, they invited her to come knowing their intentions, the fact that they told Lauren they wore staying in a cabin because they know she probably wouldn’t have come if she knew she was going to have to camp in an unsafe environment. There was no actual reason they had to invite Lauren, like Lauren’s mum said they weren’t close and Hannah asked Lauren to do things when it was convenient to her I personally believe that Hannah invited Lauren so Aaron could kill her, no normal human beings would carry on parting and having fun at a festival when there friend has just died a day previous also i find it strange how they didn’t alert people straight away when they woke up and Lauren was missing, it’s unlikely that Lauren would have traveled by herself across the river to the festival or with people she didn’t know. Poor poor girl, this case definitely needs to be re opened. Rip Lauren

    • @miatully_
      @miatully_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Mia Jay
      I 100% agree with everything you just said! it all seems a bit sketchy and it’s so sad that police and other detectives and investigators didn’t look further into this and just ruled it as an accidental death even though all the test dummies proved that it isn’t possible. It’s so heartbreaking that her mum had a bad feeling about the whole trip and about the people she was going with and then this happens. Makes it all so much worse that none of them even went to the funeral guilty or not :((
      (nice name by the way ❤️)

    • @TrueCrimeTalkWithTaves
      @TrueCrimeTalkWithTaves 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Hannah’s bf apparently had a thing for Lauren before hand ? So that would make sense

    • @fergiiie2028
      @fergiiie2028 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I think it was premeditated as well... to me with all the videos I watched it seems like maybe she was invited with sexual intentions, as sick as it sounds, a three way or some sorts? I hate to say that but that's the only motive I could come up with that is consistent with the "bruising", outside of one of them just being a plain psychopath of course

    • @xxgag3xx
      @xxgag3xx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They didn’t plan to kill her beforehand, and everyone who knows Aaron and Chris personally, knows that accusation is ridiculous. I went to HHS with them. Chris is a harmless dude that just smokes pot and rides motorcycles and Aaron is the nicest guy ever and would never hurt a fly. The media has blown this shit out of proportion and now a bunch of internet detectives think they know exactly what happened and that there was some kind of sinister plot by Hannah, Aaron and Chris to kill Lauren. There is absolutely no reason why they would kill her. NONE. Ask anyone from Hendersonville, TN aside from her mother what they think happened to Lauren and they will tell you she got too drunk and fell of the cliff. Lauren partied ALOT, and everyone from our town knows this fact aside from you people who heard about this case from the media and think she’s just some innocent girl that got murdered by her friends that hated her. They didn’t hate her, they all got really drunk that day/night, stumbled up to their cliffside campsite and passed out. They woke up the next morning thinking that Lauren probably went and crashed with some other friends since she wasn’t too keen on sleeping in an eno with Chris, when in fact she probably got disoriented and took a bad fall into the lake at some point. You people want this to be some unsolved mystery when it’s not. It’s very straightforward. None of her friends killed her. She got drunk and fell into the water. End of story. RIP Lauren.

    • @Tiny_Koi
      @Tiny_Koi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Definitely seems premeditated considering they way that they acted after

  • @ch004
    @ch004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +502

    wearing a tampon when you're not on your period can be really uncomfortable and actually pretty dangerous, she wouldn't be wearing this for no reason.

    • @Thankgot
      @Thankgot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      True would be very painful

    • @maddisonfagan7689
      @maddisonfagan7689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Exactly she could have gotten Toxic shock every girl knows about that risk even girls who don't wear tampons know about it. Plus if she thought she was due her period she could have taken medication to delay it? Because I'm pretty sure u can do it with the birth control pill pill and there's other medications that can as well.

    • @ac6155
      @ac6155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      most girls (that i know) have period trackers in their phones, if she had one then maybe they could've known if she was close to getting her period, if she wasn't then she wouldn't have used a tampon.

    • @anonymoose116
      @anonymoose116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@ac6155 those trackers are useless. Most women aren't that regular.
      Nah dude, she put in the tampon to deter rape. 100%.

    • @SA-nj8ik
      @SA-nj8ik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@anonymoose116 definitely and if she thought she was going to get her period, the most obvious option would be to wear a pad because of the risk of TSS

  • @ashleywilliams9732
    @ashleywilliams9732 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1223

    I think that the festival brings in money to the town. So they ruled it an accident to avoid bad publicity. Not everyone camps. Some people get hotels and spend money in the town. So maybe the cops realized that, and covered it up. This case just seems too suspicious to be immediately called an accident.

    • @Rtytanicj
      @Rtytanicj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Ashley Williams that could be true!! It’s like how no one is ever pronounced dead at Disney world or Disney land.

    • @kimballlynn2123
      @kimballlynn2123 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yes! That's exactly what I have wondered as well. There could have been pressure from the festival and the surrounding area because they don't want to lose money. Terribly sad. 😖 Although even more likely than the police being pressured to do a cover up, would probably be the Coroner/Medical Examiner. Although anyone in the right position could have had pressure put on them. I have looked into this case a lot, and I have *never* even come close to being able to see it as an accident. On top of that the 3 people she was with were *_extremely_* suspicious, and still remain that way even after the 2 of them moved to Florida together. It's all just so strange, and I feel terrible for her mother and the rest of her family.

    • @michelewalburn4376
      @michelewalburn4376 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's very common, so your most likely right.

    • @princessbubblegum3406
      @princessbubblegum3406 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Tell that to all the edm festivals. As soon as someone dies the festival is usually cancelled :/

    • @shannonwilliams752
      @shannonwilliams752 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. I live in a tourist town and this happens a lot.

  • @amandal6559
    @amandal6559 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Those “friends” definitely did it. Probably took her keys so she couldn’t leave Bc they were planning to do something to her. There would have been so many more injuries to her body if she fell, plus it is so unlikely she would be floating. Such a beautiful girl and such a tragic story.

  • @cierra7246
    @cierra7246 6 ปีที่แล้ว +367

    I definitely think all 3 friends were involved in the crime. Two of the reasons I especially believe a girl was involved is because 1.) Lauren was found in female clothes that weren't hers. It's highly unlikely that two guys at a festival would have had access to another female's clothing INCLUDING UNDERWEAR without that other female's consent. And 2.) The tampon that was found in Lauren's body. I have never heard of a guy using a tampon to cover up a sexual assault, and in my mind that's something only a female would think of.
    It really sucks that the police have ruled this case an accident despite all of the contrasting evidence. It seems to me that maybe they don't want to handle all of the police work that would be involved in investigating a case with that many possible witnesses, but that's no excuse for shoddy police work. I really hope that the case gets re-opened so Lauren's family can gain some semblance of closure.

    • @azureazlon3947
      @azureazlon3947 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      africkso it was reopened in Feb 8 2019 :)

    • @emeryltekutsu4357
      @emeryltekutsu4357 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@azureazlon3947 Great to hear. I find it odd they can say, "Just an accident".
      She just accidentally fell, changed into clothes she didn't have, then put in a tampon when she wasn't on her period.
      I'd like to know if the damage to the clothes matched up with the damage on her body.

  • @MajorTreble619
    @MajorTreble619 6 ปีที่แล้ว +381

    How can she have allegedly drowned and not have ANY water in her lungs?! Is that right?!

    • @obowurx6625
      @obowurx6625 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Supposedly it is possible and is called dry drowning although there seems to be a lot of disagreement and amiguity around how common or likely it is.

    • @lovergirl5013
      @lovergirl5013 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Cleatis Tolbert even with dry drowning there is water in your lungs, you just aren't submerged in water when it happens, hence "dry". you cannot drown without water in your lungs

    • @jenpickering
      @jenpickering 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lovergirl5013 actually, dry drowning is when your throat is irritated due to inhaling water and causes it to close meaning no water enters the lungs and it prevents breathing as the throat doesn't reopen. You can sharply inhale water, get out of the pool, and then still dry drown. The water caused the initial throat closure and inability to breathe meaning it is still death by drowning.

    • @lovergirl5013
      @lovergirl5013 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jen Pickering thats literally what i said

    • @jenpickering
      @jenpickering 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lovergirl5013 you said water is in your lungs when with dry drowning it isn't. But it's no big deal ✌

  • @bmays94
    @bmays94 5 ปีที่แล้ว +489

    i dont believe that none of her friends didn't know she left. especially the guy who she shared a hammock with. her getting up would of definitely woke him up

    • @amemelia
      @amemelia 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didnt she say her other friend was in the hammock and Lauren stayed in the 2 man tent

    • @itzonly.queensitzonly.quee240
      @itzonly.queensitzonly.quee240 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      amelia no Lauren stayed in the hammock

    • @chastitycalvaresi1923
      @chastitycalvaresi1923 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't think she went to sleep! Those 3 were charged

  • @savannahhalpin2189
    @savannahhalpin2189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    isnt it kinda weird that chris didnt feel lauren get up?

    • @jostewart3192
      @jostewart3192 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Yes absolutely. On a HAMMOCK. You twitch on a hammock and the whole thing rocks. It’s likely he would’ve at least lost his balance in that case

    • @Juliettejames
      @Juliettejames 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see him …

  • @triangleDAYS
    @triangleDAYS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +533

    The friends definitely did it.

    • @miriamelle864
      @miriamelle864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep. "Best weekend ever"

  • @meg3695
    @meg3695 6 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    It had to have been at least one of them, most likely chris. How could she have gotten out of the hammock in the middle of the night without waking him up? getting out of a hammock causes it to move a lot. he absolutely knew something else about that night. no way he slept through that

    • @taylorcunningham2594
      @taylorcunningham2594 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In trying to be objective here, maybe he was passed out from drinking, and whatnot.

  • @isabellark6607
    @isabellark6607 6 ปีที่แล้ว +676

    I think that she was sexually assaulted. Especially of what the ex girlfriend of Arron said. That he was really abusive towards her and he would leave marks along with *bite marks* .
    I mean that has to stand out. And for the victim to have what seemed of those type of marks makes him look really guilty. Plus if she did drown, how did she not sink. If the drowning didn't happen that way, how did she get to the cove. Then when police were going to her, they saw Arron going the exact way.
    And since she had a tampon in, police don't think she might've been raped? Like you said, this guy might've put in a tampon to look like she wasn't raped. Plus how tf do the investigators think she changed clothes.
    I think Arron sexually assaulted her, suffocated her, and then put her in the cove so he could get the right material or take her to a place where he figured out what to do with her and that's why he was seen canoeing towards her direction knowing it was her before anybody was even alerted that she was found dead.
    Like that would seem SUPER suspicious If you ask me.
    When the cop was in the boat with them and overheard them talking. They were defiantly talking super suspiciously. Like planning to steal his gun.
    Like I think it wasn't drowning and something actually happened that night.

    • @ellycaramoo7297
      @ellycaramoo7297 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      I feel as if the police that were assigned to this case didn't really pay much attention to the smaller details. They just assumed because they didn't feel like going more in depth into the case. So disappointing. It literally is in front of them.

    • @madamolivertwist5406
      @madamolivertwist5406 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Do you think that the other that was with them helped him?

    • @meera2531
      @meera2531 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      And once the case was declared an accident, the 3 of them merrily, without a care enjoyed the festival. I'm sure it was the two boys and the girl helped them cover it up.

    • @charlieminaj2
      @charlieminaj2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dexter Haven I never refuse anal🙃👀

    • @stentheprofessional7272
      @stentheprofessional7272 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@charlieminaj2 and you are still living

  • @jacobwhite4384
    @jacobwhite4384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The Canoe bruising could have happened while the Canoe is on land. My guess is that she was SA when she got the bite mark and was choked until she passed out. If there was a bite mark on her chest, the SA would have had to been a face to face. You can't bite someone's chest if you're behind them. If so, they may have pinned her down on her back, using their knees to press down on her thighs which would explain the bruising there. When she passed out from the choking, the person who SA her in a drunk and panicked train of thought, believed that they killed her and dragged her through the woods/tossed her down the hill (where she got her scrapes and bruises) and then they threw her limp body onto the docked canoe (when the canoe was docked/pulled up on shore) where she got her canoe bruise and possibly her broken nose. If the person "hugged" her body from behind to stand her up and then tossed her forward into the canoe, then she would have landed face first, hard and probably wouldn't have made it all the way into the canoe. The bruising placement seems to fit that. The person then paddled out to the other cove while she was unconscious and dumped the body... Lauren had no chance of surviving being well drunk, exhausted, beaten and unconscious and died from drowning. She was not conscious at the time so she didn't gasp for air, she just breathed normally explaining the fact no water was found in her lungs. That is my best guess. I'd love to hear your thoughts as well.

  • @ice1055
    @ice1055 6 ปีที่แล้ว +446

    Honestly it’s so confusing how her other friend can turn her down like that, she herself said she would never camp there ever again so why let one of your friends do it?
    Who cares if the cabin is full I’m sure there would have been a way for her to stay.

    • @bloomlooms1283
      @bloomlooms1283 6 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Sophia I know right?! I just wonder how that person is dealing with this knowing that if she had let her stay with her she would be alive right now...

    • @ilovemexxx
      @ilovemexxx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Sophia could’ve let her sleep on the floor or the tub... literally anything.

    • @ciarasmith6256
      @ciarasmith6256 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      To be fair I get where your coming from but it was only someone she went to school with years ago I think she was in her 20s when she got murdered so if someone u haven’t saw or spoke to in years and u weren’t really close with at school came up and asked if they could stay with you, and u didn’t have enough space of course u would turn them down because it’s not like they thought she would get murdered. I’m not saying anything bad towards you or anything just saying what I think

    • @GG-fi6pl
      @GG-fi6pl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@ciarasmith6256 her decision to not let her stay could have been something to do with the ex, she might have thought he would have been around, not staying with them but perhaps during the day drinking with them etc (since Lauren and him were initially staying together). Obviously given their past she wouldn't want to be anywhere near him and decided to not let her stay to prevent him being anywhere near.

    • @danyelliebelly6964
      @danyelliebelly6964 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah it hasn’t been mentioned in this video yet that Cassie was the ex of the girl Lauren was there with. They had a very abusive relationship and it didn’t end well, that’s I think why she didn’t want to get involved, also it might not have been Cassie’s place to say yes without asking everyone else.

  • @jadarhames9607
    @jadarhames9607 6 ปีที่แล้ว +763

    it's so strange to me that a mothers instinct is always right

    • @Nini-mg3ji
      @Nini-mg3ji 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Jada Rhames if my mom is super freaked out about me leaving to go somewhere from now on i’m taking her word for it lol .

    • @NunyaNomi
      @NunyaNomi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nini I'm glad to read this! Please always know your mom knows best!!!

    • @AB-ty5mq
      @AB-ty5mq 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ikr

    • @boosyy3
      @boosyy3 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Im 2015 June 4 my mom woke up and had a bad feeling that something bad is going to happen and that same day my brother died of suicide...😔💔

    • @kerina_perry9694
      @kerina_perry9694 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      J_rtex Roblox oh God, that’s awful... I’m so sorry 😢

  • @kJ-cq1he
    @kJ-cq1he 6 ปีที่แล้ว +377

    She was clearly murdered, and what kinda friends are they, they are horrible people, they were so mean to her ffs, makes me so angry

  • @katelizabeth7264
    @katelizabeth7264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    You can literally ignore every other very clear sign that says that those three murdered her, because the only thing you really need to focus on is the fact that they were all posting pictures on social media after she was murdered titled "BEST WEEKEND EVER!" That right there tells you that they killed that girl! No sane person would ever post something like that after a girl that they were spending the weekend with was found murdered during their trip.

  • @ameliarose1141
    @ameliarose1141 6 ปีที่แล้ว +496

    I usually can’t watch unsolved mysteries because I hate not knowing what happened to the person
    (it fucks me up)
    but if it’s one of your videos then I’ll deal with it x

  • @lydiagy9060
    @lydiagy9060 6 ปีที่แล้ว +456

    Also can we talk about her 'friend' who knew how dangerous it was on that campsite, and knew how violent the dude was and still said 'we don't have room in our cabin' WELL MAKE ROOM
    Edit:I think you mean this video in the bar you couldn't find: th-cam.com/video/gYYYA6VthE4/w-d-xo.html at 5:09

    • @ainsleyr9658
      @ainsleyr9658 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Daisy Hendriks ya she could have slept on the floor!!!!

    • @hoikatz
      @hoikatz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      If I knew I was gonna sleep on the hammock above that ledge, I would have slept on the ground in the cabin or on the literal ground outside

    • @laurengonzales4518
      @laurengonzales4518 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes! I would’ve let her at least sleep on the floor.

    • @limitlesslaney
      @limitlesslaney 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The comment section is so pure here ❤️ I wish everybody had friends as great as y’all. I’m not dead but some shit could’ve been avoided if I had decent friends Like you guys In High School ❤️

    • @lydiagy9060
      @lydiagy9060 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@limitlesslaney Same girlie. My friends once left me in the city center outside in the middle of the night with a dead phone because no one 'had room' in their house, or their parents didn't allow it. My mom slapped one of them in the face, it was great. I'm so glad I got rid of these cunts.

  • @bluhearts5216
    @bluhearts5216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    1. Aaron was an abusive boyfriend.
    2. All three were very frantic with the stories they made.
    3. Chris and Aaron we're talking about taking an officer's gun
    4. She had BRUISES and a BITEMARK. If she had fallen into the rocks below there would be a Significant amount of damage.
    5. There was no water in her lungs at All when they discovered her body.
    6. Her clothes had completely Changed from last night and she wore a fresh tampon when she wasn't on her menstrual cycle.
    7. The three main suspects had posted a picture of the three of them online with a caption stating "best weekend ever" when a friend of theirs had Died. And they didn't go to her funeral.
    If police don't reopen the damn case. I'll be shocked at how stupid they can be.

    • @crash9275
      @crash9275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They're corrupted, they know who did it

    • @EGLEWRRR
      @EGLEWRRR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It seems to me that in these cases, the police don't know their arse from their elbows.

    • @urfavginga
      @urfavginga 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can’t believe those assholes got away with it

  • @sindu3
    @sindu3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    How does her throat get crushed on a “rock” but her jaw, cheeks etc not being affected?

  • @ashleywilliams9732
    @ashleywilliams9732 6 ปีที่แล้ว +657

    Always trust your gut instincts!!! There is a reason why mother’s feel this way. I’ve actually seen a lot of cases where the mother felt like something was wrong, but let them go. (They are adults are ultimately will do what they want) Just remember that your parents have been around for a lot longer and they usually say no to things out of love. They just want you to be safe. So next time your parents say no to something remember it’s probably in your best interest. Their number one job is to protect you. It took me becoming a mother to see that. I honestly thought my parents were just being mean (they were super strict) They just wanted to keep me safe. Even though I didn’t see it that way.

    • @ninahopkins326
      @ninahopkins326 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ashley Williams, watch Kendall Rae's video on Emma Walker, her mum got a gut feeling about her ex boyfriend, and she was right...

    • @ashleywilliams9732
      @ashleywilliams9732 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ella Grace yup I’ve saw that video a few weeks ago.

    • @rainbowchaserbiomecha326
      @rainbowchaserbiomecha326 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This happened to me as a teen. I just turned 18 and i wanted to go to a rave with this girl i didnt hang out with normally. my mom kept telling me it was a bad idea and she had a bad feeling about the girl but i went anyways. I ended up being left in the industrial part of the city by myself at 3am. I was terrified. Thankfully my mom always made sure i knew if i was in a bad situation i could call her, so i did. If she hadnt picked me up that night i wouldnt have known what to do or how to get home. Who knows what could have happened. Im almost 25 now and if my mom has a bad feeling about something i avoid the situation. Listen to your parents kids. They just want you to be safe.

  • @hayleemore4618
    @hayleemore4618 6 ปีที่แล้ว +564

    Here I was about to say your disclaimer with you and you up and changed it! I’m thrown off. I always get so excited when you upload! 🖤🖤

    • @ashleywilliams9732
      @ashleywilliams9732 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Haylee More same here!

    • @mariakafrouni112
      @mariakafrouni112 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I feel betrayed xD

    • @bby04
      @bby04 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haylee More haha noooo

    • @kimolyslager
      @kimolyslager 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      i'm pretty sure it's because her video cant be taken down/blocked by youtube when she says it's for educational purposes or something so that's probably why, i think!!

    • @Denise-gd3td
      @Denise-gd3td 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Probabaly cause of the new copyright laws in the UK. You have to own absolutely everything in the video and if you don’t they take it down.

  • @clariceshriver4360
    @clariceshriver4360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +884

    I will never shut up about how perfectly the front of her eyebrows matches her roots, and the tail of the eyebrows perfectly match her ends. Like why is the color so perfect?? Why is she so perfect??? What are you looking so good for?!

    • @yonisteamwellnessspa1
      @yonisteamwellnessspa1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Beauty Therapist pitching her 2 cents.

    • @purechaos454
      @purechaos454 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Same! I’m transfixed by this. What a stunning woman who knows how to put herself together 💕

    • @Tal.x345
      @Tal.x345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Her eyebrows are just perfection period 💅go sis

  • @lovely.5677
    @lovely.5677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Why would it be an accident if she has bites on her breast? Thats why we need better detectives and polices

    • @crash9275
      @crash9275 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The police is corrupt

  • @Hannah-hw8ko
    @Hannah-hw8ko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +757

    It was all three of the “friends”. The person in her hammock killed her. Hannah provides the clothes and Hannah’s boyfriend was going to move the body.
    Also I know this is a year later.

    • @megixhelo3404
      @megixhelo3404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      is it confirmed?

    • @kendalbrenneman
      @kendalbrenneman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Also why didn’t they even check to see if those clothes belonged to her friend. They had to come from somewhere if they weren’t hers. There HAD to be a girl involved. Also because men don’t know how tampons work.

    • @aromaladyellie
      @aromaladyellie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@kendalbrenneman while I do think Hannah was involved, a guy could have done this alone. But I think all 3 of them did it while drunk and then lied about it.

    • @michelleblochh
      @michelleblochh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i agree w this 100%

    • @evierose3796
      @evierose3796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@aromaladyellie agreed but I’m not so sure about them being fully drunk while doing it

  • @strawberry8958
    @strawberry8958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +609

    Before that death she was in a *HAMMOC* with *CHRIS* and she *DIDN'T* know him. Very Sketchy....

    • @purechaos454
      @purechaos454 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nah. Not in those circumstances

    • @deathbycheese850
      @deathbycheese850 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is that sketchy?

    • @xxqueenxiexx1314
      @xxqueenxiexx1314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@deathbycheese850 that she didn't know him at all they literally met at the festival and then they're sleeping together

    • @xxqueenxiexx1314
      @xxqueenxiexx1314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Jessyca Joy its called a duck face it was a very popular selfie pose especially back then 😂

    • @scarlettokeeffe9777
      @scarlettokeeffe9777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably because hannah and Aaron wanted to ‘ do it ‘ and they didn’t want Hannah in there. They’re bullies who bullied her.

  • @rominabrasacchio2136
    @rominabrasacchio2136 5 ปีที่แล้ว +240

    this case annoys me so much the people that investigated this case all need to be *FIRED*
    her friends were idiots for making them stay in a hammock laying over a 9 feet drop

    • @calaisgray4510
      @calaisgray4510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      romina bailey wasn’t it 90

    • @veraaylee9103
      @veraaylee9103 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@calaisgray4510 it was

    • @steveywalker2735
      @steveywalker2735 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@calaisgray4510 over 9ft drop bcs thats the recommendation for max-height of hammocks

    • @elizabethidk4041
      @elizabethidk4041 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      90*

    • @irelandevr4046
      @irelandevr4046 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@steveywalker2735 Not too intelligent are you? She clearly states the hammock was hanging over a 90 foot drop. Clean the wax out of your ears....

  • @Harrybalzonya21
    @Harrybalzonya21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Ahh yes the infamous biting rock. Those things are vicious.

  • @Jane-ow7sr
    @Jane-ow7sr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +256

    This just pissed me off, so much evidence yet dismissed.

  • @kaymorris7029
    @kaymorris7029 6 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Someone needs to contact that family for another petition I would happily sign that because those 3 individuals are literally getting away with murder.

  • @musicluvrlaurie6827
    @musicluvrlaurie6827 6 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    This is such a gut-wrenching and frustrating case. I definitely suspect her so called "friends." What horrible individuals they all are. And that cop was totally useless. Sometimes I really hate LE, the stupid, lazy sods.

    • @azuradawn5683
      @azuradawn5683 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you haven't, check out PI Sheila Wysocki's podcast "Without Warning" - if you think the LE is frustrating based on this video, you have NO idea...

    • @musicluvrlaurie6827
      @musicluvrlaurie6827 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@azuradawn5683 Thanks I will try to fit that in - I have SO many podcasts and things going, many of which have useless LE involved. But I'm going to search that one out now.

    • @musicluvrlaurie6827
      @musicluvrlaurie6827 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, yes, now that I see which one it is, I have listened to all of the episodes except the latest. Thanks.

    • @msmystery4933
      @msmystery4933 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@azuradawn5683 Such a good podcast

    • @esmeraldab.3276
      @esmeraldab.3276 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is probably a stupid question, but what does LE stand for?

  • @Kisozriel
    @Kisozriel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I absolutely hate this case because the cops really failed that girl and it upsets me to no end.

  • @kiwo3885
    @kiwo3885 6 ปีที่แล้ว +939

    Anyone else watch her eyebrows move as she talks???! This isn't an insult at all, I'm just rambling on

    • @Goniocephala
      @Goniocephala 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      HazelPop Gaming I do too

    • @voidhog1028
      @voidhog1028 6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Yes. The most beautiful eyebrows tbh

    • @lisahobbs9526
      @lisahobbs9526 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Itz Ya Gurls Vada & Autumn meeeeee

    • @xoellieox
      @xoellieox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yeah idk why I just find them so interesting 😂😂

    • @xoellieox
      @xoellieox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I wanna know how she fills them so well

  • @kayleighcoleman869
    @kayleighcoleman869 6 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    I think the friends did it. You said Hannah only invited Lauren if it benefited her. Maybe she saw Lauren as a threat in some way. The reason they invited her was because it was quite hard to get to and had almost no security and there were so many ways to stage it as an accident x

    • @literaine725
      @literaine725 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Personally I think the same

  • @chelssw4181
    @chelssw4181 6 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    My heart breaks for her mum. I sincerely hope that one day her mum finds out exactly what happened to her daughter, no one deserves that.

  • @mumenRhyder
    @mumenRhyder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The tampon thing makes me so mad. Tampons can't prevent sexual assault. What the hell

  • @alexserrano2836
    @alexserrano2836 6 ปีที่แล้ว +511

    What’s sad is that Wakefest continues to go on after this. I live right outside Smithville and it’s so terrible seeing everyone have fun and be happy in the place where this poor girl lost her life. Also Aaron and Hannah just got married and had a baby....

    • @Nini-mg3ji
      @Nini-mg3ji 6 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Alex Serrano karma will serve justice one day .

    • @StarFlores
      @StarFlores 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Maybe they killed her so that Aaron and Hannah could be together 😱

    • @NatBKyiv
      @NatBKyiv 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah... It happens more often than you think. People die at the festivals cause of alcohol, drugs, accidents

    • @getdatmomo3351
      @getdatmomo3351 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That baby is gunna get hit by the parents Karma train for sure

    • @laurananderson4473
      @laurananderson4473 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@StarFlores makes no sense. They two were together.

  • @emmkej9096
    @emmkej9096 6 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Those three people don`t even deserve to be called her friends. What I find very weird is the fact they continued partying for few more days till the end of festival.
    If they killed her accidentally, or even if they didn`t like her they would have at least some kind of emotion or at least feels stressed or scared. But just continue like nothing happened seems to me like it was all planned before and it was calculated cold murder.
    Lauren, rest in peace, hope her family will at least get some answers.

  • @heidysanchez3232
    @heidysanchez3232 6 ปีที่แล้ว +418

    I feel like Lauren’s death was plotted. Hear me out. She says that Lauren’s mom noticed that Hannah was never really a “Friend” yo Lauren because she would only talk to her when she needed something and that they were never really close. I feel like Hannah was jealous of Lauren Bc she was really out going and she saw that she would’ve had a bright future. So she plotted this hole thing. First they were going to get her drunk so she would be weaker and more defenseless against an attacker. Then they would take her to the cove on the canoe. And that is when Hannah would begin to hit her eventually causing her nose to break, and since she was drunk her balance was off she , she might’ve stood up and tried to fight back but Hannah maybe pushed her causing her to fall on her fingers thus causing them to break. After Hannah took all her rage out on Lauren she decided to finish off what she started , so she strangled her. Once she was finished she made Chris and Arron take care of the body, maybe Chris had taken a liking to Lauren when they met and had told Arron. Knowing this Arron went to the canoe with Hannah, and left Chris alone with Lauren, he would then rape her and ask Hannah for a tampon that they had brought. Thus making it seem like she wasn’t raped.

    • @sarahm.4608
      @sarahm.4608 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Wow.

    • @eliser7169
      @eliser7169 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      damn.

    • @vulgarprncess
      @vulgarprncess 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      this sounds like it actually could’ve happened

    • @spiritmediator
      @spiritmediator 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Ikr! This is what I was thinking too. They purposely went across the river so they could go on with their plan. The one thing that doesn't make sense is that Aaron is her boyfriend, so why would he be fine with them killing her off?

    • @sophieleblanc5475
      @sophieleblanc5475 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree lol

  • @im_salty4901
    @im_salty4901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    No way she put that tampon in "just in case" Pulling them things out when your not on your period is torture. Also, Rocks. Dont. Bite. Must I say more 🧐🧐🧐

    • @margaret19631
      @margaret19631 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’ve been getting my period for a decade and I’ve never heard of someone putting a tampon in just in case, that sounds awful

    • @missfreed0m866
      @missfreed0m866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When you think you are gonna get your period, you put on a small pad (in spain we call them salvaslip), not a freakin tampon 🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @eyecandie2004
    @eyecandie2004 6 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    I was able to sign the petition and I believe the family is suing the police department for negligence!

  • @Hayleysmy
    @Hayleysmy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    A full cabin? Could she not have slept on a sofa? There is SO much wrong with this story it's infuriating. "She drowned." "But she had no water in her lungs?" "Yes well, she still drowned." "She has a bite mark on her chest." "Rocks."
    Like wtf?? I sincerely hope her family gets the truth.

    • @bozoahhmf
      @bozoahhmf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m sure she could have even slept on the FLOOR if they’d let her, it may not be comfortable but it’d surely be better than sleeping on a hammock over a 90ft drop

  • @savannahteffeteller642
    @savannahteffeteller642 6 ปีที่แล้ว +345

    “Best weekend ever” ?? Didn’t even go to her funeral?? Yeah suspect.

    • @rebeccamurphy4675
      @rebeccamurphy4675 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Who

    • @JessisKnoll
      @JessisKnoll 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Not to mention staying for the rest of the festival and having fun. Who tf does that when their friend just died.

    • @WoahHi8814
      @WoahHi8814 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      yeah, why would they not show up!?! are they partying of her death!?

    • @deannamccrimmon7805
      @deannamccrimmon7805 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rebecca Murphy all of her “friends” at the water thing

  • @Holden_my_breath
    @Holden_my_breath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The fact that they posted "Best Weekend Ever" and THE POLICE DID NOTHING

  • @eedwardsable
    @eedwardsable 6 ปีที่แล้ว +425

    I think Aaron or Chris (or possibly both) killed Lauren after propositioning sex, which she said no to. She had already made it clear she wanted to leave, and to consider driving home when she was drunk there must have been something seriously wrong. Then for them to continue at the festival as if nothing was wrong is awful. Was the tampon inserted correctly? If so, could Hannah have come up with the idea of the tampon to cover for her boyfriend? To make sure that a rape test was not performed? Could Hannah have inserted it herself? Not in a sexist way at all but I don't know many men, if any, that would be able to correctly insert a tampon.. they're fiddly if you don't know what you're doing.. I honestly don't believe this is an accident in any way. Awful for her family, I hope they get the justice they deserve x

    • @the_eerie_faerie_tales
      @the_eerie_faerie_tales 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Have you listened to the Without Warning podcast from PI Sheila Wysocki? There is even more shady things going on... 😳 what I mean is there are possibly more characters/suspects then just Chris and Aaron.

    • @emradford5173
      @emradford5173 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Ellie * With the tampon thing. I know a few girls that if they feel unsafe, or want to be prepared for festivals or a night out - they will insert a tampon. It’s less likely (in their mind) they will be raped etc. it’s a sort of ‘security’ for their mind. It could of been like that???

    • @rafaelaoliveira1483
      @rafaelaoliveira1483 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It disgusts me that they didn't gave a shit about a possible rape and anything envolving a man atacking her. She was so neglected just by beeing a girl

    • @user-pg9sw2td7w
      @user-pg9sw2td7w 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It’s very difficult and painful I find to insert a tampon when on a less heavy part of my period. The thought of inserting one dry is horrific.

  • @giannafreitas3647
    @giannafreitas3647 5 ปีที่แล้ว +451

    I like how a TH-camr has so much evidence that it’s not a ACCIDENT, but a detective who went to school for this can’t do anything abt it

    • @ijanellei151
      @ijanellei151 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I know i dont understand why dont they serve justice. They takes years in school just to dismiss a murder.

    • @belladoan2068
      @belladoan2068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ijanellei151 it’s ridiculous

    • @lvhnhgvfsdssx
      @lvhnhgvfsdssx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea

  • @jodieann4359
    @jodieann4359 6 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    Ok but am I the only one that was seriously thrown off because she changed her disclaimer? I'm strangely attached to these stupid disclaimers bUT HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO SAY IT WITH HER NOW

    • @apollorobin
      @apollorobin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same here!

    • @lilamichelle8964
      @lilamichelle8964 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably for monetisation purposes

    • @marahkelany2315
      @marahkelany2315 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      SAMEE

    • @lillytriplow197
      @lillytriplow197 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@lilamichelle8964 How would her disclaimer affect her monetisation? Just a genuine question because I never saw a problem with her old disclaimer

  • @taylor.x.8774
    @taylor.x.8774 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Ah yes. 33 minutes and 19 seconds of me staring at how amazing her makeup is while listening to crime stories 😌

  • @heather_doestruecrime
    @heather_doestruecrime 6 ปีที่แล้ว +280

    Chris thought that she woke up early out of a hammock he was in as well and he didnt notice? Idk about anyone else but if I sleep next to someone for the first time who i don't know well, im a light sleeper.

    • @xoxotheglow8626
      @xoxotheglow8626 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      exactly like how did she get off the hammock and walk over and fall down without anyone hearing anything, the three of them most definitely have something to do with it and or no more about what happened to her .

    • @heather_doestruecrime
      @heather_doestruecrime 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@xoxotheglow8626 yeah I absolutely agree. I think the girl was involved quite a bit. I'm thinking perhaps they got into a fight when drinking and something happened

    • @ellishale2523
      @ellishale2523 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      To be fair, he had been drinking. For some people this makes sleep worse, but for others, they pretty much sleep like the dead while their body handles the rest.

    • @kyalucero7977
      @kyalucero7977 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ^ didn’t think about that tbh. However there’s still so many suspicious things

    • @ellishale2523
      @ellishale2523 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Kya Lucero I agree! So many things are incredibly off here and there was definitely foul play in my opinion.

  • @fayebuckley8988
    @fayebuckley8988 6 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    This is why I'm going into a criminology degree and hopefully into detective investigation. I 99% believe this is a homicide case - the bruises and scratches alone point to that and especially the bra and clothing situation! Personally I believe the police did not want to rule this case as a homicide as it would've deterred people from going to the festival and therefore less money for the town. For most officers cases are simply competitions and want to find an easy explanation and I truly find it disgusting. False justice should not be a prize.

    • @cleoldbagtraallsorts3380
      @cleoldbagtraallsorts3380 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I really admire that. Thankyou for aiming to be part of the solution to help bring criminals to justice.

  • @soniafoldster
    @soniafoldster 5 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    wake boarding all day and drinking all night sounds incredibly dangerous. alcohol and water sports do not mix.

    • @paige1221
      @paige1221 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sonializbeth true but they weren’t participating they were just watching the festival