To act like fsu and those kicks couldn't have gone either way is ridiculous,you guys weir in the heavier talented area, plus if Bowden had y'all squads he would have won more then 4
I totally agree. I bleed orange, green and white and to me, next to us FSU was the best team every year. I wish Jimmy would have stayed and had the longevity of Bobby Bowden at Miami. History happens!
Miami/Florida State has/is the premier rivalry in all of college football. Yes, the teams have been down as of late but make no mistake - when these teams are in the top 10, every one is watching. Alabama and Georgia have climbed to the top but we will reclaim our status and dominate. TheU!
Johnson or Schnellenberger and Butch for that matter would not have meant more titles. Erickson was great and won two which no one else at Miami has done before or since. Saying Jimmys players is meaningless and really false. By 1991 they were his players. Butch has not been a great coach anywhere else.
@@alanrubenstein7618 Since you brought up Butch's future lack of coaching success as reason he wouldn't have created a dynasty, it seems pretty bizarre to think Jimmy, who built championship squads at both the college and pro level, wouldn't have. That '89 team was all upperclassmen across the depth chart recruited by JJ. Erickson's claim to fame was his offense and he clearly deserves sole credit for his '91 title. But by the end of his tenure, he had lost all control of the program. While the other coaches left early, we KNOW Erickson wasn't creating anything. There's no speculating about him, we saw what happened. Either sanctions or his heavy drinking and DUI's were going to get him canned at some point.
The Miami Florida State rivalry is better than Ohio State and Michigan cause the players were from the Sunshine State along with furture NFL Hall of Famers like Jim Kelly,Warren Sapp, Michael Irvin, Derrick Brooks and Deion Sanders plus Head coaches Jimmy Johnson and Bobby Bowden the winner played for the national championship both were highly ranked and imagine how many more national championships that Florida State could have a two point try not failed in 1987 and two missed Field Goals back to back also in 2000 and 2002 missed field goals
@Painpanther For Florida state it's always losing by 1 point to those damn Miami hurricanes and the heartbreak for Florida state those missed field goals
@Painpanther It wasn't a rivalry when Michigan would always beat Ohio State in the 90s 3 times also in the 90s Michigan would spoil Ohio State chances of playing in the Rose Bowl in pasenda
Michigan vs Ohio State 58-51-6 Michigan leads Miami vs Florida State 35-31 Miami leads Draft picks Michigan-406 Ohio State-491 Florida State-292 Miami-372 Hall of famers Michigan: Pros- 11(ranks 3rd) College-31(3rd) Ohio State:Pros-10(ranks 4th) College-26(4th) Miami: Pros- 9(5th) College- 12( 24th) Florida State: Pros- 4(12th) College-7(38th) In all aspects the Ohio State Michigan rivalry is only behind Harvard-Yale and USC-ND rivalries in terms of all time talent produced. You can like Miami-FSU better but you're reason is wrong. And all of these schools have more championships than Miami and FSU as well
Ok but REALLY man everybody in the country tunes in for Miami fsu even when they are not good. I don’t think many would watch pay Michigan if they had losing records. Football is just different in the south. As you can tell by the championships.
Friendly reminder OSU and Michigan both had at least a 50 year headstart on when the schools began fielding a football team so the stat totals aren't a good indicator on whom is better. I think a better one would be the outcome of our head to head matches such as when FSU turned the Big House into a little hut in 91. Remember T Buck shutting down ur Heisman winner then the more recent thriller in the bowl game.
The whole country knows that if the U could just keep all of the talent from the 305 to stay at Miami they would not lose a game for 20 years! Carol City born and raised 183 street and 27th avenue. Love dem Canes!!!!
+jmaal2345 know why back in the 80s and 90s fsu and miami played better competition teams now both was ranked high everytime the play now ,fsu and miami don't play to many high ranked teams and both have not been highly rank over the last 15 years thats the difference
I grew up in Tally in the 90s and early 2000s ain’t nuthin like FSU/Miami week. It doesn’t matter what city your in you see every body with their Um/FSU tshirts or jerseys on, starting out that Thursday b4 the game even in the night clubs it’s the same way.
@@jefffoley1640 lol yeah we will see espn has fsu ranked number 4 on pre season top 25 and a dark horse to win it all, ya'll...went 5-7 and as of right now have no OC. lmfao. We're going to destroy you.
The 2002 Florida State team wasn't the greatest but still won the ACC..2002 Florida State should've beaten UMiami at UMiami, and that would've rocked the BCS ⁉🏈🟧🏟
RIP Bobby Bowden
I'm a 40+yr 'Canes fan, but I've got to say that no one won my respect like the man Bobby Bowden. I miss him.
As a Canes fan I have so much respect for Bobby Bowden, I wish the Canes would've had a coach with the longevity as Bobby Bowden.
Who cares. While Bowden was at FSU four Miami coaches won five titles.
To act like fsu and those kicks couldn't have gone either way is ridiculous,you guys weir in the heavier talented area, plus if Bowden had y'all squads he would have won more then 4
I totally agree. I bleed orange, green and white and to me, next to us FSU was the best team every year. I wish Jimmy would have stayed and had the longevity of Bobby Bowden at Miami. History happens!
@@alanrubenstein7618and thats why yall suck now. Haven't had a coach worth a shit in 20 years.
Miami/Florida State has/is the premier rivalry in all of college football. Yes, the teams have been down as of late but make no mistake - when these teams are in the top 10, every one is watching. Alabama and Georgia have climbed to the top but we will reclaim our status and dominate. TheU!
With what new HCch Mario C is doing, we might be bringing it back soon!
It's great to be a Miami Hurricanes #1
If Schnellenberger or Johnson never left Miami there's no telling how many National Championships Miami woulda won.
Oh yes! The best athletes come out of the state of Florida. Carol City, 4-ever 305!!!
They won two with Erickson. Thats as many as Schnellenberger combined. Asking this question without Erickson and in general is pointless.
Don't forget about Butch
Johnson or Schnellenberger and Butch for that matter would not have meant more titles. Erickson was great and won two which no one else at Miami has done before or since. Saying Jimmys players is meaningless and really false. By 1991 they were his players. Butch has not been a great coach anywhere else.
@@alanrubenstein7618 Since you brought up Butch's future lack of coaching success as reason he wouldn't have created a dynasty, it seems pretty bizarre to think Jimmy, who built championship squads at both the college and pro level, wouldn't have. That '89 team was all upperclassmen across the depth chart recruited by JJ. Erickson's claim to fame was his offense and he clearly deserves sole credit for his '91 title. But by the end of his tenure, he had lost all control of the program. While the other coaches left early, we KNOW Erickson wasn't creating anything. There's no speculating about him, we saw what happened. Either sanctions or his heavy drinking and DUI's were going to get him canned at some point.
Rip coach Bowden
The Miami Florida State rivalry is better than Ohio State and Michigan cause the players were from the Sunshine State along with furture NFL Hall of Famers like Jim Kelly,Warren Sapp, Michael Irvin, Derrick Brooks and Deion Sanders plus Head coaches Jimmy Johnson and Bobby Bowden the winner played for the national championship both were highly ranked and imagine how many more national championships that Florida State could have a two point try not failed in 1987 and two missed Field Goals back to back also in 2000 and 2002 missed field goals
@Painpanther For Florida state it's always losing by 1 point to those damn Miami hurricanes and the heartbreak for Florida state those missed field goals
@Painpanther It wasn't a rivalry when Michigan would always beat Ohio State in the 90s 3 times also in the 90s Michigan would spoil Ohio State chances of playing in the Rose Bowl in pasenda
Michigan vs Ohio State 58-51-6
Michigan leads
Miami vs Florida State 35-31 Miami leads
Draft picks
Michigan-406
Ohio State-491
Florida State-292
Miami-372
Hall of famers
Michigan: Pros- 11(ranks 3rd) College-31(3rd)
Ohio State:Pros-10(ranks 4th) College-26(4th)
Miami: Pros- 9(5th) College- 12( 24th)
Florida State: Pros- 4(12th) College-7(38th)
In all aspects the Ohio State Michigan rivalry is only behind Harvard-Yale and USC-ND rivalries in terms of all time talent produced. You can like Miami-FSU better but you're reason is wrong.
And all of these schools have more championships than Miami and FSU as well
Ok but REALLY man everybody in the country tunes in for Miami fsu even when they are not good. I don’t think many would watch pay Michigan if they had losing records. Football is just different in the south. As you can tell by the championships.
Friendly reminder OSU and Michigan both had at least a 50 year headstart on when the schools began fielding a football team so the stat totals aren't a good indicator on whom is better. I think a better one would be the outcome of our head to head matches such as when FSU turned the Big House into a little hut in 91. Remember T Buck shutting down ur Heisman winner then the more recent thriller in the bowl game.
The whole country knows that if the U could just keep all of the talent from the 305 to stay at Miami they would not lose a game for 20 years! Carol City born and raised 183 street and 27th avenue. Love dem Canes!!!!
you aint wrong alot of talent comes from miami.
This rivalry is not what it use to be, smh.
jmaal2345 true
James Jones Man, it just don't feel the same. Either one is dominant or one is mediocre, ore both are mediocre. Smh
+jmaal2345 know why back in the 80s and 90s fsu and miami played better competition teams now both was ranked high everytime the play now ,fsu and miami don't play to many high ranked teams and both have not been highly rank over the last 15 years thats the difference
James Jones Very true. Need this rivalry to mean more again. Same with FSU and UF.
jmaal2345 even Florida is not playing off conference and ranked teams nomore
I grew up in Tally in the 90s and early 2000s ain’t nuthin like FSU/Miami week. It doesn’t matter what city your in you see every body with their Um/FSU tshirts or jerseys on, starting out that Thursday b4 the game even in the night clubs it’s the same way.
Thumbs up just for Prime Time rapping!
Im Fucking ready!
GO Noles! 2021 winners against the candi canes
2022's gonna be Very different, mark my words. Both teams were lousy in '21. In '22, the 'Canes are already totally different. Watch-n-see👀.
@@jefffoley1640 lol yeah we will see espn has fsu ranked number 4 on pre season top 25 and a dark horse to win it all, ya'll...went 5-7 and as of right now have no OC. lmfao. We're going to destroy you.
Basically 2 straight
The 2002 Florida State team wasn't the greatest but still won the ACC..2002 Florida State should've beaten UMiami at UMiami, and that would've rocked the BCS ⁉🏈🟧🏟
wide left, lol funny thing is that kicker who missed the field goal xavier beitia is my old boss, and one of my good friends lol.
8 Straight
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Well this didn’t age well
@@jaidenboston260 it really didn't age well.. FSU is a Dumpster Fire now..
When was the last time did miami won a championship
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Daniel Royse haha you wish
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