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MsMojo you are wrong to portray Ursula as right all along. Ursula cheated on her deal with Ariel. She used Ariels bargaining chip AKA her voice as part of a human disguise called Vanessa. Ursula while disguised as Vanessa tried to take Eric for herself so that Ariel would be unable to fulfill her end of the bargain. By doing this, Ursula violated her contract with Ariel and because of this, Ariel had every right to back out of the deal.
@@luckyluke6098 You remind me of my son. He's six.Hes obsessed with all of them. Jafar is his favourite. He dresses as Jafar everyday after school and watches "The return of Jafar" religiously. When he sings be prepared,it's almost creepy how he becomes Scar. He becomes so mean. Snarling and growling. Because I always loved the villains growing up, I don't mind. However I can see how your parents could be mad about that. If he got older and say he didn't like Voldemort, I'd be mad. Coz I'm a death eater 😂. Do you get?
A good villain is a challenge to the hero, but a great villain is someone who makes you think from their point of view and maybe even question it a little
@@reynhacoezy5510 Literally I cannot stand when people were like: "But Ursula kept her promise!!! It was Ariel's fault!!!" No, She deliberately stalked Ariel and picked her out at her weakest possible moment and literally emotionally manipulated her into that deal. It wasn't a fair deal. She used intimidation to get her way.
I'm sorry, Mothet Gothel stole someones baby because she wanted to look young. She then proceeded to hire criminals to kill the man being forced to take Rapunzel to the lights. THEN she killed someone and put Rapunzel in chains to control her. Get her out of the honorable mentions, shes a bad guy
Let’s not forget that she’s obviously emotionally abusive towards Rapunzel as she gaslights her and always puts her down for wanting to go outside. And in the Tangled cartoon, it’s revealed that she actually had a biological daughter and abandons her
Mysterie Hamman right. She didn’t even deserve a mention. The psychological abuse alone made you feel absolutely no sympathy for her. She kisses Rapunzel’s hair and says I love you. Not Rapunzel, her hair! She’s never shown true affection or love to her.
Peter Pan: Kidnaps children. Finds bullying hilarious. Chops of Hooks hand. Captain Hook: Wants the children to be mature. Wants to stop being teased and bullied. Is Peter REALLY the hero of this story..?
Nope he was not in the original story peter pan killed any lost boy that would start to get older he would thin down the ranks if the kids got too older.
You don't need to consider the book to know that Peter Pan was not a "hero", but you should also know that he was never meant to be. The Disney movie did not have a hero or villain. Along with the disillusionment from seeing all of her favorite characters in the fantasy world turn on her (the mermaids, Tinkerbell, Tigerlily), it was Peter Pan himself and the way he lived and acted that made Wendy realize that "never growing up" wasn't a good thing and wasn't what she wanted after all. Captain Hook was a dangerous threat, but the lessons came from watching and listening to Peter. On the surface and in stories, Neverland and Peter Pan are fun and fascinating, but once she actually lived it and observed it, the land of perpetual youth was rather scary, petty, uncaring, and cruel. The story was always about Wendy not Peter.
Peter Pan is a harbingers of death. Basically he's a reaper or guardian for the souls of kids that died too early. That's why they never grow up. Wendy went back due to the fact she comes back from her coma and hook is actually a doctor that try to saves those kids life.
How dare you guys steal my idea! But that's why I love the fandom, we all think alike Let me tell you what I wish I'd known, when I was young and dreamed of glory. You have no control who lives, who dies, who tells your story.
Peter Pan was a savage. He cut Hook's hand off and fed it to the crocodile, he watched and laughed at Wendy get bullied by mermaids, it is logical that Hook hates Pan
Vincent Fichtler hey what you think about Peter throwing the hand so that the crocodile will not eat him? I think it is reasonable... not always about Hook 🙂
I liked Ursula in the original Han C. Anderson story. Though she’s not named, only referred to as a witch. She’s not manipulative at all in the original. She’s a straight business woman. She sets a price and gives Ariel exactly what she wants. And doesn’t try to sabotage the mermaid at all. She even gives Ariel an out of the deal.
There is difference in being a descent businessman/woman and a dirty one! And of course, people can justify anything to suit their own narratives! She stole her/Ariel's voice and broke the boat prevent them from kissing so the spell would not be broken so she would have her voice back! If the. witch was a fair dealer she would not interfere in anything later on! No, she was not a dealer or a business woman, she was just a pure villain from the very first moment, full of anger and revenge!
I understand as well, but some of the animals in the movie are also endangered and don’t hate Mowgli. I think that taking the destructive human argument both works and doesn’t work at the same time
Yeah and what’s a bit sad is when Bagira (Sorry for the misspelling) said he hates man with a vengeance maybe he lost his mother and possibly siblings to mankind... not to blame a kid who befriends animals of course.
Did I miss something? Since when was kidnapping a baby reasonable?😂 Mother Gothel was wrong all along, she never cared for Rapunzel, only cared about staying young.
Actually he had affairs with at least 2 other supernatural creatures. Including a water nymph who became proud and mocked his wife, saying she was more attractive. Long story short, she was turned to a tree
wawj the cat from Pinocchio 🤥 the cat from Alice and Wonderland 🃏♥️ The cats from sailor moon and Kiki delivery service were all a delight when it comes to movie references
Alison Patten exactly! It was her wrongdoing from the very beginning. She asked Ursula for help and Ursula gave her exactly what she wanted. She read the contract and signed so she knew exactly what she was getting herself into. I’m also with you on that one it still bugs me
I’m so glad you see it too! Yes she was sorry but Ursula hid nothing! She sang a freakin’ song about what happened to her patrons! Ariel didn’t even read the damn contract, like it was the licensing agreement for iTunes or something so even at age six “i didn’t know I didn’t mean to” bugged me!
I’m also pretty sure that in her Disney book it’s either heavily implied or straight up stated that Aurora is actually her daughter but she sacrificed the goodness in her heart so Aurora could live happily or something along those lines
I'm sorry but that's some BS we all know that maleficent movie was made and changed based on the times in 1999 evil witch was in style in maleficents time misunderstood villain was in style
Edgar's motivations hinge on him being a total idiot. The fortune is "left" to the cats in care of Edgar. It's an insurance policy on making sure they're well taken care of and provided for for the rest of their lives. As long as Edgar supports them as outlined in the will, he can live it up as he pleases.
Exactly. Edgar is just greedy. If he continues to be the caretaker of the cats he can live it up, as long as hes doing it with the cats too. He could literally hire another person to do his job and just hang around with the cats all the time. They clearly liked him.
Right?! I just watched this movie yesterday and was thinking the same thing! Like dude... the fortune was left to you.. what the hell are cats gonna do with it? Just care for them like you already do and enjoy your wealth
Here's another interesting note: originally there was also going to be a Maid character who would scheme with him for also supposedly being left out of the will. If she was included, either she could've been the next person for Edgar to trust, or they would've hit it off together.
I'm sorry but how can Gothel be an honerable mention? She kidnapped a child and manipulated her to keep herself pretty. Also scar could technically be on this list as he could just be seen as trying to fix a corrupt society.
she gave so many hints in the little mermaids movie that made me curious. i wanna know what her relationship with triton, her life in the castle and why she became like that. i think that her storyline is alittle bit same on maleficent
Rj Megalo she was Tritons sister and got jealous because he’s the king of the ocean and he was her moms favorite so basically jealousy got the best of her
I Agree, however in the musical version we also learn Ursula was one of 7 little girls but she was the only non-mermaid child, her father favoured every other kid and neglected her for it. In a way to try and get his attention she killed all her and tritons other siblings (obviously without Poseidon or triton knowing) and left triton because he wasn't of age for the kingdom. Right before Ursula got the kingdom triton was finally of age and got all of the kingdom. So Ursula is bad in how she reacted, however this is a thing that happens in real life too. kids who get neglected sometimes grow up into murderers and stuff, obviously not all neglected children, but if you watch true crime documentary's it is a common theme. So in a way you cannot help but pity her a little bit.
Damn, I’m getting tired of people making Mufasa to be the bad guy. Yes he banished the hyenas, because they didn’t respect the circle of life! Remember when Scar let them come back? They ate everything in sight and nearly destroyed the Pridelands! Mufasa wasn’t in the wrong, people!
Deflee wasn't. Also, hyenas are female run so I know they didn't give a fuck about what mufasa said. Plus, it was way too many of them and they couldn't even hunt, they were the ultimate bums.
@@derp_2971 Doesn't excuse the fact that they over ate and chased all the herds away, causing the lions to starve to. They killed more than they needed to. If Simba didn't save the Pridelands, all of them would have died because Scar didn't put the hyenas in line and let them do what they wanted.
@@Lunaish03 scar couldn't put the hyenas in place if he wanted to bcuz 1. He's a lion and 2. He's a male lion. To hyenas, males are nothing but reproductive factories, they weren't gonna listen to scar.
I never understood Peter Pan he didn’t seem that nice to me as a kid. I was so happy when Tinkerbell started getting her own movies and shows I’ve always love Tinkerbell 😍😍
PiscesLuv♓️💞🐬🐠🐟 Lol Thats funny cuz Tinkerbell wasn’t that nice either in the original story 😜 she tried to trick the Lost Boys into shooting Wendy out of the sky 😱! but I liked her more then Peter!!
Not gonna let the Mother Gothel fly. She intentionally kept a life saving flower hidden for herself, just so she can stay young forever. Then kidnapped the princess who was born with said flowers power. What was she going to do when Repunzel eventually died? She even abandoned the daughter she did have for Repunzel just to have access to flower's power. So, no she was not in fact right all along. She set Eugene up to make him look like a terrible person when he was trying to keep his former colleagues away from Repunzel.
Although this is one of the reasons, in Tangled the Series it was revealed that Gothel was one of the guardians for the Sunstone, which was rapunzel. Presumably rapunzel either doesn't die or when she does, the Sunstone will rematerialize or be destroyed
@@夏蟲嘗雪 Well Gothel ended up being a terrible guardian. Cassandra did a much better job at protecting Repunzel, even if she gave into evil after the Moonstone made it's appearance.
Juliette Veronica no he was not- in the first draft of the play before Barrie wrote his companion novel- Peter Pan was the closest thing to one I guess but he never was actually one.
Syndrom was not just an impressionable young kid that Mr. Incredible mistreated. Bob lists off all the things he had done for Buddy before, like sign everything buddy placed in front of him and taken countless pictures with him, but Buddy stalked Mr. Incredible enough that he was able to find him twice in one night. He demanded to be his sidekick, made an easy job go sideways, letting the villain escape, and nearly getting himself and Mr. Incredible killed in the process. Bob was stern with him because he knew Buddy could not take on a hero's work at that point, or maybe ever. Buddy was an obsessed fanboy that had demands that would have lead to his death if Mr. Incredible had let him. It's not Bob's fault for him going insane just because he didn't let the kid kill himself trying to pretend to be a superhero.
i kind of agree there, i wouldn't be too happy if i had to babysit on the job. syndrome is over dramatic. he is not entitled to be bob's sidekick but he acts like he is. that's the things about obsessed fans even in real life they think they are entitled to have some sort of control over their idols life.
i kinda agree but bob could have handled that better....like not booting the kid out of his car and calling said kid's mother about what her son was doing and explaining all the dangers and what could happen to the kid.
@@misaki4119 True, but at the same time, Bob was probably very annoyed by the stalking and entitled attitude of Buddy trying to force his apprenticeship on Bob. Not to mention the whole opening scene was mostly a distraction for Bob against his nerves of getting married. Buddy had no idea what Bob was dealing with that might have made him act differently then he normally does, so it came off as harsh to him but Bob did what any normal person would do when really stressed and faced with an annoyance. Buddy going insane was on himself for not realizing he wasn't entitled to Mr. Incredible's time.
@@Silentphantomgal1997 except that Mr. Incredible is always uptight and cranky. Buddy was pretty petty himself for holding on to that one moment for so long but everything points to Mr. Incredible being an asshole in both movies.
I learned at 13 that everyone is not what they seem and no one is so innocent...but learned to just give chances to people. I learned some of these by my mother, and my dad...he was horrible.
Ursula literally sabotages everything. When they almost kissed she had her henchmen flip the boat over. Once she realize that Eric was falling in love with Ariel she turned herself human and hypnotized him into marrying her. Just as Eric and Ariel were about to kiss it was Sunset and she turned back into a mermaid. Ariel did not back out anything.
@@darkfairy9240 true. She knew who she was dealing with. Her father banished Ursula for a reason. She should have know Ursula was not honourable. Like someone said. First rule when dealing with the devil, Don't!
Syndrome most powerful and relatable quote..." Now you respect me because I'm a threat" I have always wondered why people would rather respect a threat than a good person. We steal hurt lie cheat on wonderful people but idolize people who bully others so weird to me
@@solemnsovereign758 hmm but what about treasuring someone enough to fear loosing that connection by doing them wrong. Why is the bond not that important in your mind to be protected instead we hurt the ones we love and expect forgiveness and take it for granted.
@@lelelew2735 in my mind that's iodolization. Do not live for me I ask that if you are you care for me live for yourself. If someone truly respects me they will know to trust me when I truly believe that they should relinquish that thought for me and instead cherish the treasures (memories) we make that were for us. Agian it's just my preference .
Most people fear not just being old but most of all death. If you had the chance to keep living on would you pass that chance? If kidnapping a child is all it takes then sure, great.
Manuela Schipper your a cruel person. Grow up and grow old!!!! It’s the way of life. I’d rather live a good life and pass instead of steal a kid to keep myself alive for a like a decade and a half or something and then die a tragic death. Sad
Can we also talk about how with sleeping beauty they didn’t have to send her away until she was 16? Literally just in her birthday she had to be kept away from spindles. Have a group of guards with her 24/7 no exceptions, have at least one enter a room before her so a door couldn’t magically lock
@@CreekSong.warriors Can't allow male guards in the bathroom with her or to stay in her bedroom while she sleeps. Need female guards for that to make 24/7 guarding truly work without risking rumors that the princess has "lost her innocence" so to speak. Women staying "pure" before marriage was a HUGE deal back then.
It said before the sun sets in her 16th birthday, they weren't as literal as they are today. It did mean anytime before the sun sets on her 16th birthday. This is why she was trying to find her for so long and why spinning wheels were burned immediately.
i feel this list should have named more like villians who had a point more like right all along since they were still wrong about the methods they used to fullfill their goals
Stella What they mean is that the list should’ve consisted of villains that while not sympathetic enough to excuse for certain actions they did to achieve a goal, the audience would’ve understood “oh shit they were right all along, I get where they’re coming from!”
Stella the title should be “Disney villains who had a point” rather than “Disney villains who were right all along” because they used wrong ways even though they had a point
She just wants to stay young. Yes she did some terrible things in order to achieve that goal but at least she isn't live for causing misery and spreading chaos. Plus she never harms Rapunzel and let's not forget the fact King and Queen stole her flower.
@@erdemkara4143 me too, Mother Gothel was raising Rapunzel as her own child, she knew what Rapunzel's favourite dish was and treated her like her own daughter, honestly Gothel wasn't that bad.
@@erdemkara4143 ok first, the flower was a drop from the sun. Secondly, she did hurt Rapunzul mentally and emotional. There is no excuse for kidnapping and locking a child up in a tower and manipulating her into thinking never to trust anyone.
But she's the one who finds it right? I can see your point but at least she didn't make her servent like Lady Tremaine did to Cinderella and at least PRETENDS to love her, that's my point.
How is Syndrome on this list? He's the definition of an entitled fan who got mad because their hero didn't live up to whatever pedestal they'd placed him on. Yes Mr. Incredible should have been nicer, but if a strange child followed me into a dangerous situation and then stalked me to my car, yelling about how I should train him............no??? Where the fuck were his parents? FAMOUS PEOPLE ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS OR PARENTS. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH TRIVIA YOU PULLED OFF WIKIPEDIA, YOU DON'T KNOW THEM AND THEY DON'T KNOW YOU. Also like, he set loose a giant robot in a crowded city and probably killed/destroyed lots of people and infrastructure. He wanted attention, not to be a hero. He murdered so many heroes. He is not understandable. He doesn't even have a generic tragic backstory!
Callaghan should have been #1; he legitimately thought he lost his only child. Syndrome was just a whiny little bitch (not to mention it's his own fault he was snubbed by Mr. Incredible; he let a villain get away).
But it wasn't the sole reason, Buddy wanted to become what the whole world idolised and wanted be a superhero(kinda like izuku midoriya at the beginning of my hero) but he had no abilities and wanted to prove that he can be hero to his number one idol and then he was shot down which made him feel like he wasn't good enough and that understandably made him angry and hate superheroes altogether. He then decided to create something that will prove to the world that anyone can be super and in his words "And when everyone's super, no one will be" and if he had done this in a better less villainous way he could of been a nobel prize contender for his incredible inventions but his hate burned too deep.
I don't understand how Mother in Tangled made honorable mention. She literally abducted a small child, locked her away so she could use her for her vanity, and knifed Ryder when he came to the rescue. She also was not entitled to hide away the flower. "Mother" is a malevolent narcissist.
@@rachelwittrock3611 Not to mention that in the animated series, it turns out she abandoned her real daughter; Gothel was just an all-around garbage human.
*With the Aristocats, didn't he kind of inherit the money though?* I'm assuming they'd want him to take care of the cats until they died. So he'd live in the mansion with them, and have to buy them things and himself stuff as well to survive and take care of the cats... Cats can live up to 20 years and three of them were kittens. So, wouldn't he get a free home and money just to be a cat sitter the next 20 years? What if he bred the cats and took care of the next generation too? The cats can't go out and buy themselves stuff.
Brianna exactly. Edgar was just being an idiot and didn’t realize he too could live it up in the mansion, just as long as he did what was outlined in the will. He would also get to enjoy some of that money as well, for food, nice clothes etc. Cause he’s still gotta take care of the bills and whatnot too. He could even hire some help. It makes me sad really, because he really did like, perhaps even love, the cats before he overheard and thus misunderstood the conversation.
I always said the same thing. But even in the end Adelaide says "if Edgar knew about the will, he wouldn't have left." She had just said that she would leave them with no one but Edgar soooo that means its your money too dummy, just wait for her to die! 🤦🏾♀️
Aqua Lake there would have to be changes in order for that to happen - If Captain Hook is to be the good to Peter’s bad rather than a different character against Peter then Hook would have to be captain of another profession. I read of a possible movie idea set in the modern times where Captain Hook is a police captain to his men and he is obsessed with bringing to justice a Peter Pan criminal and his team of roughens. Ultimately though, with a wide audience- there would always be a perspective- it is we who decide who is ‘villain and hero’ - not the storytellers.
If that's really how you feel guys are why not date women? Don't be too surprised when you find out that women are men's equals when it come to being horrible.
The real moral is; when something bad happens; you can either choose to stand against it or fade into obscurity; and if you stand against it and fail, only then do you become the villian.
i said this same thing while watching!! Ariel signed a contract but Ursula interfered with the outcome in her favor, so no it wasn't all within Ariel's personal agency to control and take responsibility for the situation, and no she didn't agree to cheating
Yeah I don’t get why that wasn’t addressed in the movie...Ursula wasn’t called out on it at all! Couldn’t Flounder or Sebastian speak up during the validity of the contract? Or how about Ariel? She couldn’t speak for herself after the fact? And though it’s not revealed in the movie that Triton and Ursula are brother and sister (was it ever), that’s pretty harsh trading a child up to be one of Ursula’s underlings...I could go on forever talking about this movie...it is my favorite Disney film :-)
The contract didnt have anything which stopped ursula from interfering. No did she promise ariel anything. The terms were simply ariel had to kiss or get eric to fall in love with her (i can't remember) in 3 days. Ofcourse ursula manipulated the deal for her own self gain but ariel was the foolish one who signed it. Even after ursula shows her what will happen if she fail. Ursula broke no rules.
So we're really just going to ignore the fact that Mr. Incredible signed posters, came to fan club meetings, posed for photos, which he then presumably also signed, for this kid, but the one time he said no because not only was he in a rush to get to his wedding, but he didn't want this LITERAL CHILD to be hurt? Not to mention in the original scene, "Go home Buddy, I work alone," was said while Mr. Incredible was looking at Bombvoyage, whereas in the flashback, Mr. Incredible was looking directly at him. I'd beg to differ with your choice, there was nothing Mr. Incredible could have done to prevent Syndrome from snapping and becoming who he was. If he had let Buddy tag along, and he'd gotten hurt because he couldn't save him in time, who do you think would be to blame? Mr. Incredible. Buddy would have been angry, wondering why he didn't protect him. Mr. Incredible was merely pushing Buddy out of the boundaries that the kid was breaking. If the guy had to walk on eggshells to stop him from becoming Syndrome, then he was toxic to begin with, and all it took was one ounce of not getting his way to push him over the edge.
I agree with you in any sense Budy was just one step away from snapping. He was too obsessed with Mr Incredible and he was interfering with his work. In my opinion Syndrome was like all those annoying fans who idolized famous people not seeing them as human beings.
Exactly mr incredible got the shitty end of the stick throughout the whole movie, then he got sued for damages for saving the people on the train and for saving that guy from killing himself. Basically he was screwed if he did and screwed if he didnt I can hear the cries now if mr incredible hadn't did his job. " why do we even have super heroes if they cant prevent this from happening" " the supers failed us" And buddy if he got hurt " we dont need supers,he couldnt even protect me" lol
You guys have all hit the hammer on the nail!!! Mr. Incredible was nice to Buddy from giving autographs to taking pictures, but when Buddy was stalking him, he was trying to be a responsible person by not letting a child fight crime at Buddy's age. Buddy let his obsession with Mr. Incredible consume him to the point where he predatorily stalked him at his job, commanding to be hired as a sidekick, which nearly resulted in his death and caused a train wreck, thus opening a lawsuit flood gate that led to society severing their ties to superheroes. Simply put, Buddy chose this path of superhero genocide, attempted child murder, and terrorism, etc. bc he couldn't handle 1 single no all on his own. Unfortunately, there are toxic and entitled fans like Syndrome irl who respond to just 1 small thing not working out in their favor in the worst ways imaginable!!
If I remember straight tvtropes brought that up as well under what an idiot! I mean he only have to take care of the cats for who-knows-how-long I mean cats don't have long life spans after all. and once they die then well he'd have complete control over everything! Not that he wouldn't have had complete control anyway as they said what the hell are cats going to do with all that fortune or whatnot he just have to make certain they're properly taken care of and keep them well-fed and he was golden! But I guess that was the point as you said he didn't listen to the entire conversation! If he did he wouldn't have done his stupid plan and screwed himself over like what happened at the end of the movie. But hey at least the cats got a husband / father out of the situation:-)
@@Heraldo_Del_Mar but sher khan knew that someday that boy will live in the city and he will start hunting because he knows that jungle better than anyone else. Of course killing is not acceptable but what important is that the other animals should not have raised or protected that child for a longer period of time.
Yeah, because some humans in the world can't be trusted for their occupations in the wildlife territory especially belongs to wild animals and even doing damage like deforestation
Look, I always thought it was kinda selfish for the queen to end up getting the whole magic flower to herself, which is basically what Mother Gothel had been trying to do (especially since the guards could've just taken a few petals or something). But Mother Gothel was alive for centuries and obsessed with staying young forever. She stole a child, manipulated Rapunzel so deeply, never showed any actual affection toward Rapunzel (as her affection was always targeted more at Rapunzel's hair than Rapunzel), made Rapunzel feel silly/stupid for her curiosity, tried to kidnap Rapunzel, and stabbed Eugene (which, in itself is unforgivable). I know the point of this video was not whether their actions were okay or not, but whether their motivations were understandable, and Mother Gothel's motivation was completely selfish.
I heard that was the case, thankfully her boss fights in Kingdom Hearts was a bit more enjoyable, despite the awkward swim movement. Oh and her musical number in 2
@@Jayscorpio94 No, she passed away Christmas of 2008. Ironically, for many, she is associated with Christmas, for as a singer, she is mostly known for "Santa Baby."
I go with Syndrome anytime of the day. "Everyone will be super. And when everyone is, then no one will be". It took me 12 freaking years to realize the depth of those words. Either everyone becomes so super that they become average or everyone blows up each other and there's no super left anymore.
Ursula definitely didn't fight fair. She sabotaged Ariel's relationship with the prince every step of the way, stacking the deck so she was almost guaranteed to win.
ramell4 i mean technically the contract didn’t say she couldn’t interfere. Ariel was just naive enough to believe she wouldn’t and she was warned multiple times not to go into business with the sea witch because everyone knows she doesn’t fight fair.
Like she wasn’t forced or coerced. She could’ve just left but she stayed, had a whole conversation, and actively/ willingly struck a deal. And then tried to back out when she realized it wasn’t a fair fight and let’s not forget that Ursula showed her what happens to all the people who didn’t fulfill their end of the bargain.
Demerra McDowell that IS true but she wasn’t “right all along” and it wasn’t fair. Even USF the contract didn’t say anything abt interfering doesn’t mean ot was ok
4. Yzma was crazy lol. She wouldn't have been any better than Kuzco. When the village people came to the palace to tell her about their poverty problem she legit said she didn't care and that they shouldn't have became peasants. Also her termination was justified. For any royal staff, if you get caught sitting in the throne playing royalty getting fired would be the least of her worries, especially back then lol. Honorable mentions: Mother Gothel was a psycho that kidnapped a baby for her own personal gain and then she lied to her for her entire life about how the world really was. When Rapunzel finally found her courage and went out into the world and ended up finding out the truth she tried to gaslight her every step of the way. That woman is a villain. Point, blank, period.
Honestly Triton and Mufasa are very similar, considering they both have explosive tempers. At least Mufasa’s spirit convinced Simba to go back and take down Scar, while Triton was an overprotective daddy, I mean I think when Melody disappeared he made the entire ocean go looking for her and still couldn’t find her.
this isn't about villains being right, it's rather an overview of their possible motives and points of view. but a good villain believes what their doing is the right thing, or at least perfectly justifiable, i'll give you that.
Interesting list, alternative point of view. But Ursula was definitely a bad guy. She never intended to help Ariel, she did everything she could to prevent her from succeeding. So Ursula cheated her own contract
There was probably a clause in the contract saying she could interfere. Or at least nothing in it saying that she could not. Remember, Tritan could not break the contract. No one made her sign it.
But Ursula was deceptive and there was nothing in the contract saying that she could use bargained voices to her own advantage and make it hard for the debtor to fulfill their end. This was supposed to be a deal but Ursula rigged the deal In her favor and turned it into an unfair game
@@daniellewis4154 Yes she did that however, it very well could have been in the contract that she could do those things. Or it could have been a case of nothing in the contract said that she could not interfere. Yes, Ursula was going to try to screw her over but Ariel never read the contract. She also knew that there were those who paid the price for failing (those brown things), she also did not stop to think about how she was going to communicate with Eric, etc She wanted what she wanted and the contract was signed. Ariel made a bad deal and even Tritan could not break it. No one forced her to make that deal.
@@melindoranightsilver9298 ok, so if Ursula could interfere, Erik could kill her afterwards. There was nothing in the contract about not killing. So everything is fair, Ursula has nothing to complain about.
@@kogotokLenok Back then, with that society, you could argue that is true. Plus, he was a Prince anyway so it's not like he would have been punished. I would say that if it was not in the contract that Ursula could interfere than at the very least she exploited a loophole. In the case you are describing, she probably figured he would not fall for her truly because of the no talking thing and it's not like she spelled it out for him another way.
Ariel was pretty dumb though...sold herself and her family out for a good looking guy, disrespects her caring (and understandably frustrated) father, all she does is complain. Not to mention she signed that contract with Ursula with perfect handwriting but couldn't take a minute to write a note to Eric to communicate... She was a whole other level of dumb...
@@bradyryan5105 Exactly and people are calling Ariel a “spoiled brat” without actually analyzing Ariel’s character, her personality and the evil schemes that Ursula plotted during the film. Ariel did had flaws but to ACTUALLY hate her? like cmon that’s ridiculous. If anything Ursula should have got the hate because even if Ariel did know from the beginning that Ursula was evil, she didn’t knew that Ursula was actually trying to intentionally sabotage and manipulate her into thinking that she was gonna “help” Ariel when everything she did was to get King Triton’s place as “queen/king” and to rule the world which shows selfish and narcissistic behavior.
@@amygodward4472 And what would the note say? “I’m the one who saved you and I know I can’t speak right now but that’s because I traded my voice for some legs”? Who in their right mind would believe that. His only identifier for the saviour he’d developed feelings for was the voice. She was lucky he found her personality charming and started falling for more than her voice.
The fact that Tritan could not break the contract means there was probably a clause stating that she could interfere. She did not read the contract and she signed it. That was on Ariel, no one made her sign the thing.
Didn’t read? We as am audience could not read part of the contract. Ursula used the voice Ariel gave up against her and then tried to make it difficult for Ariel to keep her end of the deal
@@daniellewis4154 The fact that Tritan could not break the deal means something. The animators were not going to bother to have a legible contract because that would be boring for kids. She did sign it none the less. She did not have to.
The contract only said that Ariel gets to keep her human legs if she manages to get a true love kiss by Eric, Ursula never said there would be no interference. Loopholes what will we do without them.
There’s a difference between understanding where a villain is coming from (Edgar in Aristocats, for example) and “being right”, as the title says. He’s not right in claiming this money of his mistress to himself, no matter in which case. When one puts into account Edgar’s math abilities (counting the years of the cats), it’s for the best her fortune didn’t go to him. Same with Callahan (big hero 6), again, understanding for the pain, he’s not right, tho.
I think for Callahan, the anger in wanting to take out the guy who caused your daughter to die is somewhat warranted. That's a fatherly instinct. The end game was that Callahan's daughter didn't die. She was just lost, so in the end, his methods were all wrong
The thing is, the money technically would belong to Edgar. The cats may be the heirs but the banks wouldn't listen to them. A human would have to be in charge of that wealth regardless.
The Emperor's New Groove is definitely underrated. I loved Yzma😂😂😂 she and Kronk were so funny... And Kuzco the Emperor had some really great character development with Pacha.
Are we gonna overlook the fact that Ursula tried to sabotage Ariel when she realized that she was close to losing out on her revenge? Yeah Ariel could've left and not signed that contract, but Ursula tried to make sure that Ariel was not walking away and losing her revenge
Damien Green Who knows? Maybe she wrote it in the contract and Ariel didn’t know because she DIDN’T READ IT. Ariel is so dumb that it makes the movie hilarious to me.😂
@@JM-vr1br I think ariel is not dumb?? she was a teenager, and obviously nobody taught her about how contracts really works. The one at fault is ursula as she was manipulative. She used ariel's weakness to get the throne. If you're still a teenager, you wouldnt understand, but at the time you reach your 20's, youll suddenly realize how immature, and close minded you are before. Yeah, ursula was a witch, but she literally have ariel constantly followed to know how she will make her trade her soul then use it as a bait for king triton to surrender his throne.
@@defrostedmilkfish1577 Not all teens are like that those who have sense even when angry wouldn't be so dumb to not see all the red flags. I know no matter how angry I am I wouldn't turn to some obeyah woman and her voodoo shit for help knowing what would happen if I failed would you. You can't define them all as dumb cause they all aren't, plus if they are all dumb doesn't that mean you would be as Ariel to sign that contract.
@@alexisbabylon4642 to add to this, Ariel was only vulnerable enough for Ursula to manipulate her because her dad blew up. Remember, she told the eels to buzz off at first before they jabbed at the freshly made wound
Did You Forget Ursula’s Sister. The Reason She Was A Villain Was Because She Was Jealous The Ursula Got Their Mothers Attention. So She Wanted To Make Her Proud As Well.
Ursula though is someone who I don't consider belonging on this list. Why? 1. She had been exiled from palace, and unlikely for nothing. King Triton might have a short temper, but it's still hard to believe he would banish someone for good with light reasons. Besides, by the looks of her, I doubt she was actually "starving" XD. 2. She used Ariel on her weakest. She sends her minions to follow young girl and to lure her in exactly when she would be in her worst place. 3. She cheated, by making sure Ariel couldn't get the kiss on time. She intervenes shamelessly when Ariel gets anywhere close to succeeding with Eric. Ursula failed to mention in her deal that she was never actually going to give Ariel what she wanted.
I want to cavy on this. I agree with everything in this comment. The title of this MsMojo is “Top Ten Disney Villains Who Were Right all along” so what was MsMojo arguing that she was right on? That Ariel signed a contract? Yes, of her own free will, but I fail to see how that really justifies Ursula being right. She just wanted to get back at Triton for banishing her, there’s no reason given why she’s banished. If she was banished for being evil, her revenge is based on pettiness, no? Unlike other candidates(Syndrome, Yzma) of this ranking she really isn’t justified in her motive. She probably shouldn’t be on this rank and if so, back there with Maleficent or as an honorable mention.
I watched the extras on the DVD of The Little Mermaid, and it was mentioned that part of the original part of the story that the producers considered putting in, but that was ultimately cut, was that Ursula was actually supposed to Triton's sister, and she was exiled fur attempting to seize the throne for herself.
You can’t forget though that Ezma is also exactly the same as kuzko, so technically she’s not right because she wants to do exactly what kuzko is doing
I mean you also have to consider at the time Sleeping Beauty takes place, something as momentous as a Royal Birth/Christening would have been the "Event of the Century" and King Stefan and The Queen actually broke a big rule, everyone is invited even your enemies.
Gothel kidnapped Rapunzel and had every intention of keeping her locked up for the rest of her life so she (Gothel) could remain young and beautiful. She might be just an honorable mention, but she's an all out villain
Am I the only one who thinks that a film where Peter Pan is the villain and Captain Hook is the hero would be awesome? Even though Once Upon a Time already did it.
Logan Elizabeth SHE’s the one that told me something when I did not even tell her anything! Maybe we should all have a cookie I’ll get the milk 🥛 Edit: have to admit it was rash of me
My theory for thinking that why Pan cut off Hook’s hand is because he was terrorizing an area in Neverland, probably destroying Mermaid Lagoon, attacking Tiger Lily’s tribe, kidnapping the Lost Boys, or draining Neverland of it’s resources. But these are just my thoughts.
Mother Gothel mentioned how the world is a cruel and dangerous place, even though I don't agree with her kidnapping Rapunzel but she is right about the world being a cruel and dangerous place
The kingdom stole the flower that kept her alive. She wasn't going to kidnap Rapunzel, she was just going to take a piece of her hair but the magic wouldn't work so she had to take the child. And no, she wasn't obligated to help the queen by giving the flower. Would you choose to give up the thing that is making you live to someone who you don't even know?
Just because they had a “good” reason, it doesn’t justify their horrible and illegal actions of: murdering and kidnapping people, stealing, manipulating, and attempting to take over the world. The only one I agree with is Captain Hook
Literally, this list doesn’t know the difference between having a valid reason to be mad and literally being correct. Like I get it that some of these villains had valid reasons to be pissed but they DEFINITELY were not “right from the beginning”.
I’d add the Tiger in Jungle Book. He has seen it all before and has every reason to believe the kid’s dangerous. When he grows up and learns to wield a gun and the power of fire, the jungle is done for. If humans come looking for him, the jungle is done for. As the viewer we can say that these things won’t happen, and he should go about it another way. But as a tiger he’s simply being a tiger and acting on instinct trying to stop the threat to his life and home the only way he knows how, killing it.
gg454lune facts only difference is Scar wasn’t sitting in Hell for all eternity. Hades just wanted to be back on Olympus, Scar wanted to rule! Very big differences in motive.
@@joshuaarango7660 The Underworld of Greek Mythology isn't hell...it really isn't even portrayed like that in the Disney movie. I think Hades is just mad that Zeus is king of the gods...especially since he's Zeus's OLDER brother.
I always felt bad for Mad Madame Mimm. She was off on her own, not bothering anybody, when Merlin and Arthur came and harassed her and then messed up her home. If she hadn't been completely insane, I think it would have distressed her much more.
She is basically the only one whose body punishes her for overeating though. No other Little Mermaid character other than Carlotta seems to have to worry about it at all!
Well here's the thing. Syndrome wanted to BE a superhero. To get the glory, to be the one people admired. He didn't actually want to DO superhero work. That includes the little stuff like rescuing a cat from a tree while trying to stop a thief.
Mr. Incredible DID say he signed tons of stuff and took pictures with Syndrome. Which is all you can expect a real celebrity to do. Having a fan break into your car and follow you around is stalker-ish and not ok. I don't think he should have been #1.
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The loss of Callaghan's daughter wasn't tragic. She was still alive in that dimension, but she was rescued at the end of the movie.
Hey u forgot about toffee from star butterfly
MsMojo you are wrong to portray Ursula as right all along. Ursula cheated on her deal with Ariel. She used Ariels bargaining chip AKA her voice as part of a human disguise called Vanessa. Ursula while disguised as Vanessa tried to take Eric for herself so that Ariel would be unable to fulfill her end of the bargain. By doing this, Ursula violated her contract with Ariel and because of this, Ariel had every right to back out of the deal.
I miss the old school cartoons.
no I think the hero's are the right choice not villins
When you're a kid, you love the heroes.
Whe you become adult, you understand the villains.
I was a weird kid, i understood a lot of villains and felt sorry for them. Parents weren't so pleased about it. :D
I Always love the villains
Fercho Salinas I always loved villains
@@luckyluke6098 You remind me of the child version of hero killer /hunter from one punch man
@@luckyluke6098 You remind me of my son. He's six.Hes obsessed with all of them. Jafar is his favourite. He dresses as Jafar everyday after school and watches "The return of Jafar" religiously. When he sings be prepared,it's almost creepy how he becomes Scar. He becomes so mean. Snarling and growling.
Because I always loved the villains growing up, I don't mind.
However I can see how your parents could be mad about that. If he got older and say he didn't like Voldemort, I'd be mad. Coz I'm a death eater 😂. Do you get?
A good villain is a challenge to the hero, but a great villain is someone who makes you think from their point of view and maybe even question it a little
No, thats called manipulation
Which is literally what makes a good villain. A good villain IS manipulative.
Mia Mafalda
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@@reynhacoezy5510 Literally I cannot stand when people were like: "But Ursula kept her promise!!! It was Ariel's fault!!!" No, She deliberately stalked Ariel and picked her out at her weakest possible moment and literally emotionally manipulated her into that deal. It wasn't a fair deal. She used intimidation to get her way.
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I know their Marvel but still.
I'm sorry, Mothet Gothel stole someones baby because she wanted to look young. She then proceeded to hire criminals to kill the man being forced to take Rapunzel to the lights. THEN she killed someone and put Rapunzel in chains to control her. Get her out of the honorable mentions, shes a bad guy
Let’s not forget that she’s obviously emotionally abusive towards Rapunzel as she gaslights her and always puts her down for wanting to go outside. And in the Tangled cartoon, it’s revealed that she actually had a biological daughter and abandons her
Mysterie Hamman right. She didn’t even deserve a mention.
The psychological abuse alone made you feel absolutely no sympathy for her. She kisses Rapunzel’s hair and says I love you. Not Rapunzel, her hair! She’s never shown true affection or love to her.
Although, Gothel did not _want_ to take Raps originally. She was only going to take a piece of hair until she realized that wouldn't work.
Mysterie Hamman agree 100%
She dont even care about rapunzel she just care about her hair to look young
Mother Gothel doesn’t belong in the honorable mentions... she’s a gaslighter and she’s evil and cruel. So no
Mental abuse to the max 😕
@@bubblingbubztheklown5902 exactly thank you very much
True. It's Mojo.. what's new
I agree. She's peak Narc.
Rapunzel got stockholm syndrome for all the emotional abused and lonely
Peter Pan: Kidnaps children. Finds bullying hilarious. Chops of Hooks hand.
Captain Hook: Wants the children to be mature. Wants to stop being teased and bullied.
Is Peter REALLY the hero of this story..?
I never liked Peter Pan.
Nope he was not in the original story peter pan killed any lost boy that would start to get older he would thin down the ranks if the kids got too older.
You don't need to consider the book to know that Peter Pan was not a "hero", but you should also know that he was never meant to be. The Disney movie did not have a hero or villain. Along with the disillusionment from seeing all of her favorite characters in the fantasy world turn on her (the mermaids, Tinkerbell, Tigerlily), it was Peter Pan himself and the way he lived and acted that made Wendy realize that "never growing up" wasn't a good thing and wasn't what she wanted after all. Captain Hook was a dangerous threat, but the lessons came from watching and listening to Peter. On the surface and in stories, Neverland and Peter Pan are fun and fascinating, but once she actually lived it and observed it, the land of perpetual youth was rather scary, petty, uncaring, and cruel. The story was always about Wendy not Peter.
Peter Pan is a harbingers of death. Basically he's a reaper or guardian for the souls of kids that died too early. That's why they never grow up. Wendy went back due to the fact she comes back from her coma and hook is actually a doctor that try to saves those kids life.
Peter Pan is actually called "The little white bird". Try searching it up and read at least the summary of it and you'll be weirded out.
we are all villain in someone's story
_Now I'm the villain in your history, I was too young and blind to see~..._
I'm sorry, I couldn't resist. 😂
@@ll-rx3zk *I should of known, I should have known the world was wide enough for both Hamilton and meee*
😍😍I love it. I truly believe in this..why to care if people think I'm bad?? 😎🤗
How dare you guys steal my idea! But that's why I love the fandom, we all think alike
Let me tell you what I wish I'd known, when I was young and dreamed of glory. You have no control who lives, who dies, who tells your story.
It's very true
Peter Pan was a savage. He cut Hook's hand off and fed it to the crocodile, he watched and laughed at Wendy get bullied by mermaids, it is logical that Hook hates Pan
Perhaps that was self-defense at least he didn't kill Hook that would totally screwed this up.
As a kid I secretly was rooting for Hook and hoped he catches Pan
Sherri Chrstofferson Smee is comedy relief- you’re angry?
@@karlichristofferson5332 and Hook said that was alright but what he couldn't agreed with is that he threw it away to the crocodile.
Vincent Fichtler hey what you think about Peter throwing the hand so that the crocodile will not eat him? I think it is reasonable... not always about Hook 🙂
I liked Ursula in the original Han C. Anderson story. Though she’s not named, only referred to as a witch. She’s not manipulative at all in the original. She’s a straight business woman. She sets a price and gives Ariel exactly what she wants. And doesn’t try to sabotage the mermaid at all. She even gives Ariel an out of the deal.
Yes but then we won't have the cool songs
@@emileemosbacher6719 😂
@@emileemosbacher6719 true true 😂
There is difference in being a descent businessman/woman and a dirty one! And of course, people can justify anything to suit their own narratives! She stole her/Ariel's voice and broke the boat prevent them from kissing so the spell would not be broken so she would have her voice back! If the. witch was a fair dealer she would not interfere in anything later on! No, she was not a dealer or a business woman, she was just a pure villain from the very first moment, full of anger and revenge!
@Ella Lshi My thoughts exactly. If that contract was pure, it would've broke the moment her eels dumped the boat.
"Although she doesn't fit the aesthetic" EXCUSE ME!? MALEFICENT IS THE AESTHETIC!! ALWAYS AND FOREVER!!
I know that's right girl! I can't wait to be her for Halloween!
Sarafina Donald did you pull off the costume? I want to see someone do Ceterion, kabal, shinnok and cyber frost one year
Maleficent had STYLE🙌💗
@Stephanie Pappas probably because literally everyone else was and based on era that was like spitting in her face.
Try watching the movie Maleficent. It really gives a new perspective to the dark fairy
Rather than "villains being right," the title seems to be more of "top ten understandable villains" instead.
Or top ten Disney villains we felt sorry for.
Yes. Better title.
Yeah, cuz I wouldn't say Edgar was right. But I do understand his motives.
Yeah cause I thought we was looking at quotes
It's for clickbait.
I can perfectly understand Shere Khan. Humans are the reason tigers are now an endangered species.
lol
I understand as well, but some of the animals in the movie are also endangered and don’t hate Mowgli. I think that taking the destructive human argument both works and doesn’t work at the same time
True
Very true.
Yeah and what’s a bit sad is when Bagira (Sorry for the misspelling) said he hates man with a vengeance maybe he lost his mother and possibly siblings to mankind... not to blame a kid who befriends animals of course.
Did I miss something? Since when was kidnapping a baby reasonable?😂 Mother Gothel was wrong all along, she never cared for Rapunzel, only cared about staying young.
They should've added Zhan Tiri...
Ikr! I was thinking 'in what way she was right?' But she wasn't.
Exactly
well she never made Rapunzel cry
Exactly and she covered it up by just acting like a protective mother and keeping her sheltered for 18 years.
Hades is the only pagan god that stayed loyal to his wife and stayed out of family drama in the myths.
Z. O. That’s probably his torment, the gods don’t have moral or think god relationships as mortals
Hades = a valid Goth bf (even if he was married to his niece)
Actually he had affairs with at least 2 other supernatural creatures. Including a water nymph who became proud and mocked his wife, saying she was more attractive.
Long story short, she was turned to a tree
Check out Overly Sarcastic Productions video on Theseus and Pirithous. Sums it up nicely
Hades is easily the best god in my opinion... Because of his loyalty and the fact he's more misunderstood
Lucifer from Cinderella. Poor cat was just trying to rid the house of vermin.
Exactly!
he was still a turd lol... he didn't have to go around making messes and taunting Cinderella too
Sniddhia ya here also kept her locked inside the tower too
@@bambidaydreamer3 What cat isn't a pain in the a$$
wawj the cat from Pinocchio 🤥 the cat from Alice and Wonderland 🃏♥️
The cats from sailor moon and Kiki delivery service were all a delight when it comes to movie references
Even as a kid Ariel yelling “I didn’t know, I didn’t mean to” bugged the hell out of me. She knew. She absolutely meant to.
Alison Patten exactly! It was her wrongdoing from the very beginning. She asked Ursula for help and Ursula gave her exactly what she wanted. She read the contract and signed so she knew exactly what she was getting herself into. I’m also with you on that one it still bugs me
I’m so glad you see it too! Yes she was sorry but Ursula hid nothing! She sang a freakin’ song about what happened to her patrons! Ariel didn’t even read the damn contract, like it was the licensing agreement for iTunes or something so even at age six “i didn’t know I didn’t mean to” bugged me!
Teens make poor choices sometimes. We all do. I really hate Ursula more every time Ariel is really saying in kid language I'm sorry as heck I "F" up.
Can you really blame a teenager for getting swindled by a con artist? Grown adults do that, FFS!
MysticBlue 02 Ursula still cheated
Watching Maleficent’s own movie makes you look at her in such a different light
Well obviously considering it’s literally an alternate version
I’m also pretty sure that in her Disney book it’s either heavily implied or straight up stated that Aurora is actually her daughter but she sacrificed the goodness in her heart so Aurora could live happily or something along those lines
@@critikillshot6851 *WHAT?*
@@critikillshot6851 wha-huh??!
I'm sorry but that's some BS we all know that maleficent movie was made and changed based on the times in 1999 evil witch was in style in maleficents time misunderstood villain was in style
Edgar's motivations hinge on him being a total idiot.
The fortune is "left" to the cats in care of Edgar. It's an insurance policy on making sure they're well taken care of and provided for for the rest of their lives. As long as Edgar supports them as outlined in the will, he can live it up as he pleases.
Exactly. Edgar is just greedy. If he continues to be the caretaker of the cats he can live it up, as long as hes doing it with the cats too.
He could literally hire another person to do his job and just hang around with the cats all the time. They clearly liked him.
This is exactly what my father told me when he watched the movie
Right?! I just watched this movie yesterday and was thinking the same thing! Like dude... the fortune was left to you.. what the hell are cats gonna do with it? Just care for them like you already do and enjoy your wealth
Yeah, he could’ve had the life he dreamed of, if he wasn’t so selfish. All he had to do was take care of the cats, and breed them possibly.
Here's another interesting note: originally there was also going to be a Maid character who would scheme with him for also supposedly being left out of the will. If she was included, either she could've been the next person for Edgar to trust, or they would've hit it off together.
I just love Yzma, she is a whole mood honestly 🤭 she’s just hilariously evil
R.I.P. eartha kitt yzsma.
Yzma is queen honestly 👌💜
kronk is a queen
Yes!!!
YESS!!! Fun fact, she is my profile picture on my Disney+ account XD
I'm sorry but how can Gothel be an honerable mention? She kidnapped a child and manipulated her to keep herself pretty. Also scar could technically be on this list as he could just be seen as trying to fix a corrupt society.
Emma Brennan How was Mufasa a terrible king?? Are you on crack?
Emma Brennan how was mufasa a horrible king?
Well they say you die as a hero or live long enough to become a villain. And I said hero can become a villain. So...yeah
I think because Gothel said about the out world is cruel and dangerous which is true.
@Emma Brennan She still did horrible things she was trying to live a forever and be beautiful forever
The worst thing for Hades is that, in the original myths, it was Hera, not him who wanted Herakles dead.
Ms. Mojo: You could easily reverse the hero-villain roles in Peter Pan
Me:... Once Upon A Time?
That was literally my first thought too.
@@Scorpioncactusflower Me too
Samee
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(to ppl reading this. No, literally, we're best friends irl)
Now if you think about it Hook revenge on Peter Pan was justified. He cut off his hand and laughed about and through it to the crocodile
I will always want a movie of Ursula's Story.
Me too!!!!
Rj Megalo yess!!!
she gave so many hints in the little mermaids movie that made me curious. i wanna know what her relationship with triton, her life in the castle and why she became like that. i think that her storyline is alittle bit same on maleficent
Rj Megalo she was Tritons sister and got jealous because he’s the king of the ocean and he was her moms favorite so basically jealousy got the best of her
@@rosiebridges8979 i see . thanks but a movie will be so good. so that people understand where her hatred came from.
Not all villain are evil. It’s just the situation they’re in, or who they have to deal with, or decisions made by others.
No
No that’s called an antagonist
Michael Oluwajuyemi It’s all a matter of perspective
@@hayamihinata4135 no it isn't
Crossfurr Darius Coatl Excuse me?
Dude Ursula manipulated the outcome when she saw Ariel was about to get her way. As much as the contract was legal, that was super villain behavior..
.......figures
Its true... Ursula had her minions knock over the boat and that was not part of the deal!
@@marcusbarker4001 but it was never not part of the deal.
I Agree, however in the musical version we also learn Ursula was one of 7 little girls but she was the only non-mermaid child, her father favoured every other kid and neglected her for it. In a way to try and get his attention she killed all her and tritons other siblings (obviously without Poseidon or triton knowing) and left triton because he wasn't of age for the kingdom. Right before Ursula got the kingdom triton was finally of age and got all of the kingdom. So Ursula is bad in how she reacted, however this is a thing that happens in real life too. kids who get neglected sometimes grow up into murderers and stuff, obviously not all neglected children, but if you watch true crime documentary's it is a common theme. So in a way you cannot help but pity her a little bit.
@@marcusbarker4001 Not only that, but she disguised herself and enchanted Ariel's voice to try to ruin her chances of getting Eric to fall for her.
Damn, I’m getting tired of people making Mufasa to be the bad guy. Yes he banished the hyenas, because they didn’t respect the circle of life!
Remember when Scar let them come back? They ate everything in sight and nearly destroyed the Pridelands!
Mufasa wasn’t in the wrong, people!
Deflee wasn't. Also, hyenas are female run so I know they didn't give a fuck about what mufasa said. Plus, it was way too many of them and they couldn't even hunt, they were the ultimate bums.
Well they were pretty starved when they were finally let back in.
@@derp_2971 Doesn't excuse the fact that they over ate and chased all the herds away, causing the lions to starve to. They killed more than they needed to. If Simba didn't save the Pridelands, all of them would have died because Scar didn't put the hyenas in line and let them do what they wanted.
Gamer Luna03 I’m not excusing them I’m just saying if I were hungry I would overeat too but its still bad.
@@Lunaish03 scar couldn't put the hyenas in place if he wanted to bcuz 1. He's a lion and 2. He's a male lion. To hyenas, males are nothing but reproductive factories, they weren't gonna listen to scar.
"Right All Along"? Seriously? I think "Kinda Had A Point" would have been a more reasonable title for this one! ;-)
its callled clickbait
Absolutely
The only one who you probably could say was right all along was Yzma
Yea lol
my mom in the thumbnail.
I never understood Peter Pan he didn’t seem that nice to me as a kid. I was so happy when Tinkerbell started getting her own movies and shows I’ve always love Tinkerbell 😍😍
PiscesLuv♓️💞🐬🐠🐟 Lol Thats funny cuz Tinkerbell wasn’t that nice either in the original story 😜 she tried to trick the Lost Boys into shooting Wendy out of the sky 😱! but I liked her more then Peter!!
PiscesTV 🐬🐠 I hated them both lmao
Yeah, Peter Pan can be such an ass and a dickhead in my opinion
@@NyagoNoir I love sassy tinker bell. Wendy's a basic b
NyagoNoir she was just jealous because she loved petter
Not gonna let the Mother Gothel fly. She intentionally kept a life saving flower hidden for herself, just so she can stay young forever. Then kidnapped the princess who was born with said flowers power. What was she going to do when Repunzel eventually died? She even abandoned the daughter she did have for Repunzel just to have access to flower's power. So, no she was not in fact right all along. She set Eugene up to make him look like a terrible person when he was trying to keep his former colleagues away from Repunzel.
Although this is one of the reasons, in Tangled the Series it was revealed that Gothel was one of the guardians for the Sunstone, which was rapunzel.
Presumably rapunzel either doesn't die or when she does, the Sunstone will rematerialize or be destroyed
@@夏蟲嘗雪 Well Gothel ended up being a terrible guardian. Cassandra did a much better job at protecting Repunzel, even if she gave into evil after the Moonstone made it's appearance.
Eugene was a theif and criminal. HE WAS ALREADY A TERRIBLE AND SELFISH PERSON
@@Kagenoaki I mean she raised her and gave her a childhood. Maybe her idea of keeping herself young was to KEEP CONTINUOUSLY PROTECTING THE SUNDROP
Exactly! I don’t see how any of what she did was right wanting to stay young forever isn’t a good reason it’s just selfish
"It wouldn't be hard to reverse the roles of hero and villain" for Peter Pan:
and they did in Once Upon a time ;)
Elizabeth Azzinaro what more to ask for?😉 Granted they are focusing on Disney but OUAT is kinda Disney
And they did it BEAUTIFULLY.
In the original book Peter was the villain.
Juliette Veronica no he was not- in the first draft of the play before Barrie wrote his companion novel- Peter Pan was the closest thing to one I guess but he never was actually one.
That's what I was gonna say. My one complaint on Peter is that he was never with Wendy😔
Syndrom was not just an impressionable young kid that Mr. Incredible mistreated. Bob lists off all the things he had done for Buddy before, like sign everything buddy placed in front of him and taken countless pictures with him, but Buddy stalked Mr. Incredible enough that he was able to find him twice in one night. He demanded to be his sidekick, made an easy job go sideways, letting the villain escape, and nearly getting himself and Mr. Incredible killed in the process. Bob was stern with him because he knew Buddy could not take on a hero's work at that point, or maybe ever. Buddy was an obsessed fanboy that had demands that would have lead to his death if Mr. Incredible had let him. It's not Bob's fault for him going insane just because he didn't let the kid kill himself trying to pretend to be a superhero.
i kind of agree there, i wouldn't be too happy if i had to babysit on the job. syndrome is over dramatic. he is not entitled to be bob's sidekick but he acts like he is. that's the things about obsessed fans even in real life they think they are entitled to have some sort of control over their idols life.
i kinda agree but bob could have handled that better....like not booting the kid out of his car and calling said kid's mother about what her son was doing and explaining all the dangers and what could happen to the kid.
@@misaki4119 True, but at the same time, Bob was probably very annoyed by the stalking and entitled attitude of Buddy trying to force his apprenticeship on Bob. Not to mention the whole opening scene was mostly a distraction for Bob against his nerves of getting married. Buddy had no idea what Bob was dealing with that might have made him act differently then he normally does, so it came off as harsh to him but Bob did what any normal person would do when really stressed and faced with an annoyance. Buddy going insane was on himself for not realizing he wasn't entitled to Mr. Incredible's time.
@@Silentphantomgal1997 except that Mr. Incredible is always uptight and cranky. Buddy was pretty petty himself for holding on to that one moment for so long but everything points to Mr. Incredible being an asshole in both movies.
@@Manganization He's the one who looked up to someone acting like an asshole, so in that case he had it coming
In Once Upon A Time(Can be found on Netflix) Peter Pan is a villain and Captain Hook is just a shady but kind of good character.
Loved that show.
Gerri Sutton same buddy
Mmm Killian Jones
@@gerrisutton7586 I have every season on DVD
Killian Hook Jones is the most dreamy man 😂♥️😍
I learned at 13 that everyone is not what they seem and no one is so innocent...but learned to just give chances to people.
I learned some of these by my mother, and my dad...he was horrible.
"Doesn't fit the aesthetic" girrrllll Maleficient is the villian of all times for us ladies 🤘
I know that's right!
Ever since angelina jolie played as her...
@@lyzzavala4468 nope ever since the original cartoon. Any woman that can turn into a dragon is bad ass in my books
@Stephanie Pappas reminds me of me back when lol
Ikr , she's so cool 😍
Ursula literally sabotages everything. When they almost kissed she had her henchmen flip the boat over. Once she realize that Eric was falling in love with Ariel she turned herself human and hypnotized him into marrying her. Just as Eric and Ariel were about to kiss it was Sunset and she turned back into a mermaid. Ariel did not back out anything.
Ohhhh... True.
Exactly! Ursula had no intention of keeping her end of the deal, all to get to Triton.
But Ariel wasn't forced to make the deal. That's her own stupidity.
@@darkfairy9240 true. She knew who she was dealing with. Her father banished Ursula for a reason. She should have know Ursula was not honourable. Like someone said.
First rule when dealing with the devil, Don't!
@@chibuzormokelu416 This doesn’t refute any of the points made.
Syndrome most powerful and relatable quote..." Now you respect me because I'm a threat" I have always wondered why people would rather respect a threat than a good person. We steal hurt lie cheat on wonderful people but idolize people who bully others so weird to me
Machiavelli wrote it best.
"Since love and fear can hardly exist together, if we must choose between them, it is far safer to be feared than loved
@@solemnsovereign758 hmm but what about treasuring someone enough to fear loosing that connection by doing them wrong.
Why is the bond not that important in your mind to be protected instead we hurt the ones we love and expect forgiveness and take it for granted.
Your comment really ran so deep. It made me think about what can make people’s lives better.
@@lelelew2735 in my mind that's iodolization. Do not live for me I ask that if you are you care for me live for yourself. If someone truly respects me they will know to trust me when I truly believe that they should relinquish that thought for me and instead cherish the treasures (memories) we make that were for us. Agian it's just my preference .
@@CarlosGonzalez-kk1vh I don't get your point.
Get back here and explain yourselves for including Mother Gothel.
Just because their motives are understandable doesn't necessarily mean they're right.
Yeah.
yeah if you understand why a person killed someone it wouldn't make it automatically legal
Nobody said it was right, the video is just saying their actions were taken out of context from their misunderstandings
Lucy the title of the video is 10 Disney Villains Who Were Right All Along......
Elaina Veasey if you actually watched the video when the speaker is talking about a particular villain she says it doesn’t excuse their actions
Excuse me, Mother Gothel STOLE a child just because she freaking couldn't accept that she's getting old.
Even though she stole a child, which is wrong, Mother Gothel mentioned how the world is dangerous and cruel which is technically true
@@kkstar1718 So she gets to be a right villain just because she said one sentence that's true? xD
Most people fear not just being old but most of all death. If you had the chance to keep living on would you pass that chance? If kidnapping a child is all it takes then sure, great.
Kkstar 17 she didn’t make it any better by stealing, kidnapping and keeping her held captive
Manuela Schipper your a cruel person. Grow up and grow old!!!! It’s the way of life. I’d rather live a good life and pass instead of steal a kid to keep myself alive for a like a decade and a half or something and then die a tragic death. Sad
As an adult- you RELATE to the villain. Especially when treated like crap and are sick of it- or screwed over.
And then there's Shere Khan who is the only Disney villain who is natural since real tigers have actually hunted humans before
Yep maybe if ur a sociopath
Yep
@@aleabeckermann2100 Anywayss
You can only relate to a villain in some ways where you can understand where they are coming from.
Can we also talk about how with sleeping beauty they didn’t have to send her away until she was 16? Literally just in her birthday she had to be kept away from spindles. Have a group of guards with her 24/7 no exceptions, have at least one enter a room before her so a door couldn’t magically lock
If they allowed female guards.
@@AMStryxwhat do u mean by that I’m confused
@@CreekSong.warriors Can't allow male guards in the bathroom with her or to stay in her bedroom while she sleeps. Need female guards for that to make 24/7 guarding truly work without risking rumors that the princess has "lost her innocence" so to speak. Women staying "pure" before marriage was a HUGE deal back then.
It said before the sun sets in her 16th birthday, they weren't as literal as they are today. It did mean anytime before the sun sets on her 16th birthday. This is why she was trying to find her for so long and why spinning wheels were burned immediately.
i feel this list should have named more like villians who had a point more like right all along since they were still wrong about the methods they used to fullfill their goals
I tried reading this sentence but I can't understand it.
Stella What they mean is that the list should’ve consisted of villains that while not sympathetic enough to excuse for certain actions they did to achieve a goal, the audience would’ve understood “oh shit they were right all along, I get where they’re coming from!”
Stella the title should be “Disney villains who had a point” rather than “Disney villains who were right all along” because they used wrong ways even though they had a point
Well they were still "right" for their intentions as the video stated
Yet the way to it (or the result) isn't..
Stella I get what this person is trying to say, although the way they phrased it and the lack of punctuation definitely is confusing.
I'm sorry: Gothel? How was she considered?
She just wants to stay young. Yes she did some terrible things in order to achieve that goal but at least she isn't live for causing misery and spreading chaos. Plus she never harms Rapunzel and let's not forget the fact King and Queen stole her flower.
@@erdemkara4143 me too, Mother Gothel was raising Rapunzel as her own child, she knew what Rapunzel's favourite dish was and treated her like her own daughter, honestly Gothel wasn't that bad.
Yeah, I don’t know how rapunzel didn’t become depressed after mother gothel was gone. Like did rapunzel not consider mother gothel as family?
@@erdemkara4143 ok first, the flower was a drop from the sun. Secondly, she did hurt Rapunzul mentally and emotional. There is no excuse for kidnapping and locking a child up in a tower and manipulating her into thinking never to trust anyone.
But she's the one who finds it right? I can see your point but at least she didn't make her servent like Lady Tremaine did to Cinderella and at least PRETENDS to love her, that's my point.
How is Syndrome on this list? He's the definition of an entitled fan who got mad because their hero didn't live up to whatever pedestal they'd placed him on. Yes Mr. Incredible should have been nicer, but if a strange child followed me into a dangerous situation and then stalked me to my car, yelling about how I should train him............no??? Where the fuck were his parents?
FAMOUS PEOPLE ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS OR PARENTS. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH TRIVIA YOU PULLED OFF WIKIPEDIA, YOU DON'T KNOW THEM AND THEY DON'T KNOW YOU.
Also like, he set loose a giant robot in a crowded city and probably killed/destroyed lots of people and infrastructure. He wanted attention, not to be a hero. He murdered so many heroes. He is not understandable. He doesn't even have a generic tragic backstory!
Callaghan should have been #1; he legitimately thought he lost his only child. Syndrome was just a whiny little bitch (not to mention it's his own fault he was snubbed by Mr. Incredible; he let a villain get away).
But it wasn't the sole reason, Buddy wanted to become what the whole world idolised and wanted be a superhero(kinda like izuku midoriya at the beginning of my hero) but he had no abilities and wanted to prove that he can be hero to his number one idol and then he was shot down which made him feel like he wasn't good enough and that understandably made him angry and hate superheroes altogether. He then decided to create something that will prove to the world that anyone can be super and in his words "And when everyone's super, no one will be" and if he had done this in a better less villainous way he could of been a nobel prize contender for his incredible inventions but his hate burned too deep.
I'M SO GLAD SOMEONE SAID THIS
I don't understand how Mother in Tangled made honorable mention. She literally abducted a small child, locked her away so she could use her for her vanity, and knifed Ryder when he came to the rescue. She also was not entitled to hide away the flower.
"Mother" is a malevolent narcissist.
@@rachelwittrock3611 Not to mention that in the animated series, it turns out she abandoned her real daughter; Gothel was just an all-around garbage human.
Villains are just victims whose stories haven't been told yet
(Yes that was a land of stories quote)
Then put it in quotation marks
Villains are just princess/prince that weren't rescued
Not Mother Gothel.There's no reason for kidnapping a baby
@@brittaniharold1880 mother gothel was pure evil.
@@bradyryan5105 eh nah
*With the Aristocats, didn't he kind of inherit the money though?* I'm assuming they'd want him to take care of the cats until they died. So he'd live in the mansion with them, and have to buy them things and himself stuff as well to survive and take care of the cats... Cats can live up to 20 years and three of them were kittens. So, wouldn't he get a free home and money just to be a cat sitter the next 20 years? What if he bred the cats and took care of the next generation too? The cats can't go out and buy themselves stuff.
Brianna exactly. Edgar was just being an idiot and didn’t realize he too could live it up in the mansion, just as long as he did what was outlined in the will. He would also get to enjoy some of that money as well, for food, nice clothes etc. Cause he’s still gotta take care of the bills and whatnot too. He could even hire some help. It makes me sad really, because he really did like, perhaps even love, the cats before he overheard and thus misunderstood the conversation.
I always said the same thing. But even in the end Adelaide says "if Edgar knew about the will, he wouldn't have left." She had just said that she would leave them with no one but Edgar soooo that means its your money too dummy, just wait for her to die! 🤦🏾♀️
Edgar name was on the will tho
Yeah, and honestly, I would love a life like that, just if my mother wasn’t allergic to cats. Edgar was such an idiot.
Ok but why in the world would cats need money? It costs a lot of money to own a cat but the cat themselves have no use for money
In the original story Pan was kind of a villain.
He was a villain in the more modern one too
Yeah. I get that Peter Pan is an ass a lot of times.
He was also a villain in Once Upon A Time season 3.
Aqua Lake there would have to be changes in order for that to happen - If Captain Hook is to be the good to Peter’s bad rather than a different character against Peter then Hook would have to be captain of another profession. I read of a possible movie idea set in the modern times where Captain Hook is a police captain to his men and he is obsessed with bringing to justice a Peter Pan criminal and his team of roughens. Ultimately though, with a wide audience- there would always be a perspective- it is we who decide who is ‘villain and hero’ - not the storytellers.
@@matthatter56 came here to say that
I relate to Hades on a mental level. My dating advice in a nutshell. "He's a guy!"
Marie Blackwood Hades might be the best Disney Villain and def the funniest! James Wood killed that! Probably his best role.
If that's really how you feel guys are why not date women? Don't be too surprised when you find out that women are men's equals when it come to being horrible.
@@help8help I know! I have friends who like women and it is the same.
Actually in Greece history, Hades really isn't the bad dude at all, he's actually chill!
@@SaltySev Yeah! I read pjo and hoo.
The real moral is; when something bad happens; you can either choose to stand against it or fade into obscurity; and if you stand against it and fail, only then do you become the villian.
Ursulas actions might be considered valid IF she hadn’t interfered to turn it in her favor. She cheated. That alone should have voided the contract.
JesScarlet came here to say this!!!
Yes but Sebastian “cheated” as well by singing that romantic song.
i said this same thing while watching!! Ariel signed a contract but Ursula interfered with the outcome in her favor, so no it wasn't all within Ariel's personal agency to control and take responsibility for the situation, and no she didn't agree to cheating
Yeah I don’t get why that wasn’t addressed in the movie...Ursula wasn’t called out on it at all! Couldn’t Flounder or Sebastian speak up during the validity of the contract? Or how about Ariel? She couldn’t speak for herself after the fact? And though it’s not revealed in the movie that Triton and Ursula are brother and sister (was it ever), that’s pretty harsh trading a child up to be one of Ursula’s underlings...I could go on forever talking about this movie...it is my favorite Disney film :-)
The contract didnt have anything which stopped ursula from interfering. No did she promise ariel anything. The terms were simply ariel had to kiss or get eric to fall in love with her (i can't remember) in 3 days. Ofcourse ursula manipulated the deal for her own self gain but ariel was the foolish one who signed it. Even after ursula shows her what will happen if she fail. Ursula broke no rules.
I forgot how freaking demonic Ursula’s voice got when she said “Your voice”
Crazy Queen Weirdo I know I haven’t seen the movie in like 15 years that was creepy af I didn’t expect that
Not to mention how her lips moved, that made me cringe.
Same when she says " magic" that voice actor was incredible
So we're really just going to ignore the fact that Mr. Incredible signed posters, came to fan club meetings, posed for photos, which he then presumably also signed, for this kid, but the one time he said no because not only was he in a rush to get to his wedding, but he didn't want this LITERAL CHILD to be hurt?
Not to mention in the original scene,
"Go home Buddy, I work alone," was said while Mr. Incredible was looking at Bombvoyage, whereas in the flashback, Mr. Incredible was looking directly at him.
I'd beg to differ with your choice, there was nothing Mr. Incredible could have done to prevent Syndrome from snapping and becoming who he was. If he had let Buddy tag along, and he'd gotten hurt because he couldn't save him in time, who do you think would be to blame? Mr. Incredible. Buddy would have been angry, wondering why he didn't protect him. Mr. Incredible was merely pushing Buddy out of the boundaries that the kid was breaking. If the guy had to walk on eggshells to stop him from becoming Syndrome, then he was toxic to begin with, and all it took was one ounce of not getting his way to push him over the edge.
Buddy is like Jason Todd from the Batman series (kind of anyway) I hope you get my meaning
@@milliesaysokboomer Not really: Jason actually cares about helping people. Buddy only wanted the fame and glory that came with superheroics.
I agree with you in any sense Budy was just one step away from snapping. He was too obsessed with Mr Incredible and he was interfering with his work. In my opinion Syndrome was like all those annoying fans who idolized famous people not seeing them as human beings.
Exactly mr incredible got the shitty end of the stick throughout the whole movie, then he got sued for damages for saving the people on the train and for saving that guy from killing himself. Basically he was screwed if he did and screwed if he didnt I can hear the cries now if mr incredible hadn't did his job. " why do we even have super heroes if they cant prevent this from happening" " the supers failed us"
And buddy if he got hurt " we dont need supers,he couldnt even protect me" lol
You guys have all hit the hammer on the nail!!! Mr. Incredible was nice to Buddy from giving autographs to taking pictures, but when Buddy was stalking him, he was trying to be a responsible person by not letting a child fight crime at Buddy's age. Buddy let his obsession with Mr. Incredible consume him to the point where he predatorily stalked him at his job, commanding to be hired as a sidekick, which nearly resulted in his death and caused a train wreck, thus opening a lawsuit flood gate that led to society severing their ties to superheroes. Simply put, Buddy chose this path of superhero genocide, attempted child murder, and terrorism, etc. bc he couldn't handle 1 single no all on his own.
Unfortunately, there are toxic and entitled fans like Syndrome irl who respond to just 1 small thing not working out in their favor in the worst ways imaginable!!
When I was a kid I actually teared up when I saw Peter Pan feeding captain hook to the crocodile.
It was uncomfortable.
Ursela's story is basically how lawyers get bad rep.
Edgar didn't listen to the rest of the conversation, he was promised all the fortune as well as long as he took care of the cats.
If I remember straight tvtropes brought that up as well under what an idiot! I mean he only have to take care of the cats for who-knows-how-long I mean cats don't have long life spans after all. and once they die then well he'd have complete control over everything! Not that he wouldn't have had complete control anyway as they said what the hell are cats going to do with all that fortune or whatnot he just have to make certain they're properly taken care of and keep them well-fed and he was golden! But I guess that was the point as you said he didn't listen to the entire conversation! If he did he wouldn't have done his stupid plan and screwed himself over like what happened at the end of the movie. But hey at least the cats got a husband / father out of the situation:-)
I can’t really argue with Shere Khan’s logic either
True. But his desire to kill Mowgli, a boy who has nothing to do with poaching or deforestation like the men of his species, is what's unacceptable.
@@Heraldo_Del_Mar but sher khan knew that someday that boy will live in the city and he will start hunting because he knows that jungle better than anyone else. Of course killing is not acceptable but what important is that the other animals should not have raised or protected that child for a longer period of time.
Also he’s a tiger tigers normally kill people if given the chance
Yeah, because some humans in the world can't be trusted for their occupations in the wildlife territory especially belongs to wild animals and even doing damage like deforestation
@@rosiebridges8979 some have actually actively hunted humans
Look, I always thought it was kinda selfish for the queen to end up getting the whole magic flower to herself, which is basically what Mother Gothel had been trying to do (especially since the guards could've just taken a few petals or something). But Mother Gothel was alive for centuries and obsessed with staying young forever. She stole a child, manipulated Rapunzel so deeply, never showed any actual affection toward Rapunzel (as her affection was always targeted more at Rapunzel's hair than Rapunzel), made Rapunzel feel silly/stupid for her curiosity, tried to kidnap Rapunzel, and stabbed Eugene (which, in itself is unforgivable). I know the point of this video was not whether their actions were okay or not, but whether their motivations were understandable, and Mother Gothel's motivation was completely selfish.
Ok, interesting ...
I remember having "The Little Mermaid " game on Nintendo. Ursala was b$tch to beat.
@Pierre Buie II Yes! Lol, I hated her.
I had that game too
What did she mean Ariel tried to back out of the deal?
I heard that was the case, thankfully her boss fights in Kingdom Hearts was a bit more enjoyable, despite the awkward swim movement. Oh and her musical number in 2
@@bat_spider616 The deal was if she and the Prince didn't kiss then Ariel soul would be taken by her.
Yzma funny as hell. Awww Eartha Kitt was definitely a true classy woman. Wonderful works. 🥰🥰💯
Is she still alive?
To be fair, she was the one who raised him, so I think to know where he got that jerkassery
@@Jayscorpio94 no she is not
@@Jayscorpio94 no sadly she passed years ago
@@Jayscorpio94 No, she passed away Christmas of 2008. Ironically, for many, she is associated with Christmas, for as a singer, she is mostly known for "Santa Baby."
I go with Syndrome anytime of the day.
"Everyone will be super. And when everyone is, then no one will be".
It took me 12 freaking years to realize the depth of those words.
Either everyone becomes so super that they become average or everyone blows up each other and there's no super left anymore.
rinzo not everyone should be a super
With Maleficent there is one major lesson: "NEVER INSULT A FAE!"
LOL!
My sister and I always laughed at Ursula saying "Practically Starved!" as she eats an anemone lol
she didnt look like she was starving =D
@@chinosjay I think it could be argued that her last appearance when she turned ginormous was her true form (hence her saying she was "wasting away").
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I thought so too!
If you've seen the movie Maleficent, then you'd understand that she's not the real villain
Lord Puzzle Stefano is the real villain
Stefano Dimera?
@@heinricheverson 😂😂😂😂
She's definitely not the real villain
But, keeping in mind that the original idea was not that. It’s greated now. So the real reason originally was that she was not invited.
Some I can agree with, like Hook and Hades. While others like Ursula and Mother Gothel... Yeah, they’re definitely the bad guys.
Ursula definitely didn't fight fair. She sabotaged Ariel's relationship with the prince every step of the way, stacking the deck so she was almost guaranteed to win.
ramell4 i mean technically the contract didn’t say she couldn’t interfere. Ariel was just naive enough to believe she wouldn’t and she was warned multiple times not to go into business with the sea witch because everyone knows she doesn’t fight fair.
Like she wasn’t forced or coerced. She could’ve just left but she stayed, had a whole conversation, and actively/ willingly struck a deal. And then tried to back out when she realized it wasn’t a fair fight and let’s not forget that Ursula showed her what happens to all the people who didn’t fulfill their end of the bargain.
Hades set monsters free that were obviously imprisoned because of bad deeds, it's not righteous of him at all
Demerra McDowell that IS true but she wasn’t “right all along” and it wasn’t fair. Even USF the contract didn’t say anything abt interfering doesn’t mean ot was ok
4. Yzma was crazy lol. She wouldn't have been any better than Kuzco. When the village people came to the palace to tell her about their poverty problem she legit said she didn't care and that they shouldn't have became peasants. Also her termination was justified. For any royal staff, if you get caught sitting in the throne playing royalty getting fired would be the least of her worries, especially back then lol.
Honorable mentions: Mother Gothel was a psycho that kidnapped a baby for her own personal gain and then she lied to her for her entire life about how the world really was. When Rapunzel finally found her courage and went out into the world and ended up finding out the truth she tried to gaslight her every step of the way. That woman is a villain. Point, blank, period.
Agreed!!
Also, in the rapunzel series you find out that gothel had a small child, and abandoned her to raise rapunzel
Also Yzma raised Kuzco, so she is part the reason why he is like he is.
Me as a kid: Yeah! Get them baddies!
Me as an adult: Weeeeell, they're not exactly wrong 🤷
Edit: Yes Triton was the villain!
Triton’s also the villain in Ariel’s Beginning for banning music from Atlantica and basically holding a grudge after Athena passed on.
@@Aurorak-i6l Like father like son. Triton definitely has Poseidon's temper.
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Honestly Triton and Mufasa are very similar, considering they both have explosive tempers. At least Mufasa’s spirit convinced Simba to go back and take down Scar, while Triton was an overprotective daddy, I mean I think when Melody disappeared he made the entire ocean go looking for her and still couldn’t find her.
this isn't about villains being right, it's rather an overview of their possible motives and points of view. but a good villain believes what their doing is the right thing, or at least perfectly justifiable, i'll give you that.
Interesting list, alternative point of view.
But Ursula was definitely a bad guy. She never intended to help Ariel, she did everything she could to prevent her from succeeding. So Ursula cheated her own contract
There was probably a clause in the contract saying she could interfere. Or at least nothing in it saying that she could not. Remember, Tritan could not break the contract. No one made her sign it.
But Ursula was deceptive and there was nothing in the contract saying that she could use bargained voices to her own advantage and make it hard for the debtor to fulfill their end. This was supposed to be a deal but Ursula rigged the deal In her favor and turned it into an unfair game
@@daniellewis4154 Yes she did that however, it very well could have been in the contract that she could do those things. Or it could have been a case of nothing in the contract said that she could not interfere. Yes, Ursula was going to try to screw her over but Ariel never read the contract. She also knew that there were those who paid the price for failing (those brown things), she also did not stop to think about how she was going to communicate with Eric, etc
She wanted what she wanted and the contract was signed. Ariel made a bad deal and even Tritan could not break it. No one forced her to make that deal.
@@melindoranightsilver9298 ok, so if Ursula could interfere, Erik could kill her afterwards. There was nothing in the contract about not killing. So everything is fair, Ursula has nothing to complain about.
@@kogotokLenok Back then, with that society, you could argue that is true. Plus, he was a Prince anyway so it's not like he would have been punished. I would say that if it was not in the contract that Ursula could interfere than at the very least she exploited a loophole. In the case you are describing, she probably figured he would not fall for her truly because of the no talking thing and it's not like she spelled it out for him another way.
10:05 Ursula's still messed up tho, because before Ariel could even try to fulfil the task she gave her she tried multiple times to foil her
Ariel was pretty dumb though...sold herself and her family out for a good looking guy, disrespects her caring (and understandably frustrated) father, all she does is complain. Not to mention she signed that contract with Ursula with perfect handwriting but couldn't take a minute to write a note to Eric to communicate... She was a whole other level of dumb...
Yep. Ariel just didn't know Ursula had plotted against her beforehand
@@bradyryan5105 Exactly and people are calling Ariel a “spoiled brat” without actually analyzing Ariel’s character, her personality and the evil schemes that Ursula plotted during the film. Ariel did had flaws but to ACTUALLY hate her? like cmon that’s ridiculous. If anything Ursula should have got the hate because even if Ariel did know from the beginning that Ursula was evil, she didn’t knew that Ursula was actually trying to intentionally sabotage and manipulate her into thinking that she was gonna “help” Ariel when everything she did was to get King Triton’s place as “queen/king” and to rule the world which shows selfish and narcissistic behavior.
@@amygodward4472 And what would the note say? “I’m the one who saved you and I know I can’t speak right now but that’s because I traded my voice for some legs”? Who in their right mind would believe that. His only identifier for the saviour he’d developed feelings for was the voice. She was lucky he found her personality charming and started falling for more than her voice.
Somehow you forgot the part where Ursula made absolutely sure Ariel couldn't win by casting a spell on Prince Eric.
Kevin Kunkel to be fair, that could have been a clause in the contract that Ariel didn’t know because she didn’t read the damn thing.
The fact that Tritan could not break the contract means there was probably a clause stating that she could interfere. She did not read the contract and she signed it. That was on Ariel, no one made her sign the thing.
Didn’t read? We as am audience could not read part of the contract. Ursula used the voice Ariel gave up against her and then tried to make it difficult for Ariel to keep her end of the deal
@@daniellewis4154 The fact that Tritan could not break the deal means something. The animators were not going to bother to have a legible contract because that would be boring for kids. She did sign it none the less. She did not have to.
The contract only said that Ariel gets to keep her human legs if she manages to get a true love kiss by Eric, Ursula never said there would be no interference.
Loopholes what will we do without them.
Ummm Ursula did a bit more than that!!! she actively sabotaged Ariels attempts to get Erik to fall in love with her, and cast a spell on him.
Ishizu montoya Right and became of that, I completely disagree with Ursula
Let's just say Ursula probably about to slap the reality not to fall in love with a guy u just met only because he's hot lol
Ishizu montoya also, the contract said “before the sun sets”. The sun was setting, but had not set
It was probably written in the contract. You know, the one Ariel didn’t read.😂
There’s a difference between understanding where a villain is coming from (Edgar in Aristocats, for example) and “being right”, as the title says.
He’s not right in claiming this money of his mistress to himself, no matter in which case. When one puts into account Edgar’s math abilities (counting the years of the cats), it’s for the best her fortune didn’t go to him.
Same with Callahan (big hero 6), again, understanding for the pain, he’s not right, tho.
I think for Callahan, the anger in wanting to take out the guy who caused your daughter to die is somewhat warranted. That's a fatherly instinct. The end game was that Callahan's daughter didn't die. She was just lost, so in the end, his methods were all wrong
Nah Edgar was right.
The thing is, the money technically would belong to Edgar. The cats may be the heirs but the banks wouldn't listen to them. A human would have to be in charge of that wealth regardless.
@@tanandalynch9441 Not with Disney's logic.
@@bakedbeans5494 unfortunately yeah they made him get rid of them instead of just becoming corrupt with wealth
The Emperor's New Groove is definitely underrated. I loved Yzma😂😂😂 she and Kronk were so funny... And Kuzco the Emperor had some really great character development with Pacha.
I’m in love with her 😍
Are we gonna overlook the fact that Ursula tried to sabotage Ariel when she realized that she was close to losing out on her revenge? Yeah Ariel could've left and not signed that contract, but Ursula tried to make sure that Ariel was not walking away and losing her revenge
villain: has a motivation
Ms. mojo: are they the good guy??? 🤔🤔🤔
Ariel would’ve kissed Eric if it wasn’t for Ursula’s eels
Damien Green Who knows? Maybe she wrote it in the contract and Ariel didn’t know because she DIDN’T READ IT. Ariel is so dumb that it makes the movie hilarious to me.😂
@@JM-vr1br I think ariel is not dumb?? she was a teenager, and obviously nobody taught her about how contracts really works. The one at fault is ursula as she was manipulative. She used ariel's weakness to get the throne. If you're still a teenager, you wouldnt understand, but at the time you reach your 20's, youll suddenly realize how immature, and close minded you are before. Yeah, ursula was a witch, but she literally have ariel constantly followed to know how she will make her trade her soul then use it as a bait for king triton to surrender his throne.
@@JM-vr1br she was driven to do it because at the time she was sad, angry and you know how teens are..
@@defrostedmilkfish1577 Not all teens are like that those who have sense even when angry wouldn't be so dumb to not see all the red flags. I know no matter how angry I am I wouldn't turn to some obeyah woman and her voodoo shit for help knowing what would happen if I failed would you. You can't define them all as dumb cause they all aren't, plus if they are all dumb doesn't that mean you would be as Ariel to sign that contract.
@@alexisbabylon4642 to add to this, Ariel was only vulnerable enough for Ursula to manipulate her because her dad blew up. Remember, she told the eels to buzz off at first before they jabbed at the freshly made wound
Did You Forget Ursula’s Sister.
The Reason She Was A Villain Was Because She Was Jealous The Ursula Got Their Mothers Attention. So She Wanted To Make Her Proud As Well.
Fr her sister should take the place of mother Gothel in the honourable mentions
Felt like Peter pan was a bully as a kid.
"Everyone thinks they're the hero of their own story" Handsome Jack.
No they don't anyone who thinks that is a dumbass who would say the Mansons were heroes in their story, reality check they didn't.
7:20 they did do a role reversal with Pan and Hook in once upon a time. And boy, did they do a good job!
Pan is so cute and Hook is HOT 😍😍😍
what is it called???
oh wait im stupid XD
In the original story Peter Pan was the villain
yes And Grown Pan was a Terrible dad and tried to kill Henry ,One of my Favorites for eternal youth , his great Grand son.
Oncer by heart❤️❤️❤️
Somewhat sympathetic, and "right all along" are vastly different things.
Agreed. I feel like this list's issue is that it was misnamed.
Ursula though is someone who I don't consider belonging on this list. Why?
1. She had been exiled from palace, and unlikely for nothing. King Triton might have a short temper, but it's still hard to believe he would banish someone for good with light reasons. Besides, by the looks of her, I doubt she was actually "starving" XD.
2. She used Ariel on her weakest. She sends her minions to follow young girl and to lure her in exactly when she would be in her worst place.
3. She cheated, by making sure Ariel couldn't get the kiss on time. She intervenes shamelessly when Ariel gets anywhere close to succeeding with Eric. Ursula failed to mention in her deal that she was never actually going to give Ariel what she wanted.
Also since Ariel was a minor their contract wasn't legally binding
I want to cavy on this. I agree with everything in this comment. The title of this MsMojo is “Top Ten Disney Villains Who Were Right all along” so what was MsMojo arguing that she was right on? That Ariel signed a contract? Yes, of her own free will, but I fail to see how that really justifies Ursula being right. She just wanted to get back at Triton for banishing her, there’s no reason given why she’s banished. If she was banished for being evil, her revenge is based on pettiness, no? Unlike other candidates(Syndrome, Yzma) of this ranking she really isn’t justified in her motive. She probably shouldn’t be on this rank and if so, back there with Maleficent or as an honorable mention.
Well, Ariel did not read the whole contract. So Ursula may have put it in somewhere.
D'Ann Goldwire I doubt that the ocean has the same minor laws as America. She also gets married at the end of the film
I watched the extras on the DVD of The Little Mermaid, and it was mentioned that part of the original part of the story that the producers considered putting in, but that was ultimately cut, was that Ursula was actually supposed to Triton's sister, and she was exiled fur attempting to seize the throne for herself.
You can’t forget though that Ezma is also exactly the same as kuzko, so technically she’s not right because she wants to do exactly what kuzko is doing
Jesús Malverde Great point. Especially since Kuzco gained a change of heart in the end
Oh my god it would be a hilarious twist if Yzma was Kuzco's real mother.
yeah
she was a jerk to that ‘peasant’ who needed food
but i still love her as a character, even if a relationship with her seems a little toxic
That, but the one factor that REALLY sets her lower than Kusko is that she never liked Kronk's Spinach Puffs!
The only thing Maleficent live action missing is the iconic
*STAND BACK YOU FOOLS*
I love it when Maleficent feign shock after not being invited to the party, both in the cartoon and live action.
I mean you also have to consider at the time Sleeping Beauty takes place, something as momentous as a Royal Birth/Christening would have been the "Event of the Century" and King Stefan and The Queen actually broke a big rule, everyone is invited even your enemies.
Gothel kidnapped Rapunzel and had every intention of keeping her locked up for the rest of her life so she (Gothel) could remain young and beautiful. She might be just an honorable mention, but she's an all out villain
"Practically Starving?" No offense Ursula, but you don't look exactly malnourished to me.
Being fat does not mean being full.
Maybe she's living on instant ramen.
@@YACABE 😂😂😂
@Scott Fowler. How very Dr Now of you 😂😂😂
"Do you look like you're malnourished?"
Am I the only one who thinks that a film where Peter Pan is the villain and Captain Hook is the hero would be awesome? Even though Once Upon a Time already did it.
Matt Thornton not satisfied? Once upon a time was fine
I would love that!
Elorile The Cat [Sans’ Wife And Girlfriend] ok....why are you telling me this? I don’t care 🤷🏻♀️ Good for you have a 🍪
@@simonacannizzo5141 you gave your opinion. They gave theirs. That's how this works. Do YOU want a cookie? Chill.
Logan Elizabeth SHE’s the one that told me something when I did not even tell her anything! Maybe we should all have a cookie I’ll get the milk 🥛 Edit: have to admit it was rash of me
My theory for thinking that why Pan cut off Hook’s hand is because he was terrorizing an area in Neverland, probably destroying Mermaid Lagoon, attacking Tiger Lily’s tribe, kidnapping the Lost Boys, or draining Neverland of it’s resources. But these are just my thoughts.
Agreed
Even if Captain Hook was justified in taking revenge on Peter Pans "Prank", that's no excuse for trying to harm the Darlings
How is gothel right at all? Maybe in the original story but not Tangled.
Mother Gothel mentioned how the world is a cruel and dangerous place, even though I don't agree with her kidnapping Rapunzel but she is right about the world being a cruel and dangerous place
@@kkstar1718 same
@@kkstar1718 it's like dogtooth it's really cruel to make her stay in her home
Mother Gothel portrays the fear of humanity in getting old
The kingdom stole the flower that kept her alive. She wasn't going to kidnap Rapunzel, she was just going to take a piece of her hair but the magic wouldn't work so she had to take the child.
And no, she wasn't obligated to help the queen by giving the flower. Would you choose to give up the thing that is making you live to someone who you don't even know?
Just because they had a “good” reason, it doesn’t justify their horrible and illegal actions of: murdering and kidnapping people, stealing, manipulating, and attempting to take over the world. The only one I agree with is Captain Hook
Literally, this list doesn’t know the difference between having a valid reason to be mad and literally being correct. Like I get it that some of these villains had valid reasons to be pissed but they DEFINITELY were not “right from the beginning”.
Now ask yourself 1 question if the good guy did it, would it be different, because most of them have done it.
kjdnyhmghfvb give me examples where any of the good guys did even 1/10 the deplorable crimes as their villain counterparts
I’d add the Tiger in Jungle Book. He has seen it all before and has every reason to believe the kid’s dangerous. When he grows up and learns to wield a gun and the power of fire, the jungle is done for. If humans come looking for him, the jungle is done for. As the viewer we can say that these things won’t happen, and he should go about it another way. But as a tiger he’s simply being a tiger and acting on instinct trying to stop the threat to his life and home the only way he knows how, killing it.
Peter Pan always got on my nerves!!
Scar and Hades have this in common: each one attacked his nephew.
gg454lune facts only difference is Scar wasn’t sitting in Hell for all eternity. Hades just wanted to be back on Olympus, Scar wanted to rule! Very big differences in motive.
@@joshuaarango7660 The Underworld of Greek Mythology isn't hell...it really isn't even portrayed like that in the Disney movie. I think Hades is just mad that Zeus is king of the gods...especially since he's Zeus's OLDER brother.
Evil Uncle trope!
I always felt bad for Mad Madame Mimm. She was off on her own, not bothering anybody, when Merlin and Arthur came and harassed her and then messed up her home. If she hadn't been completely insane, I think it would have distressed her much more.
I actually liked ursula more than ariel, even when i was a child.
Ursula was the best character in that movie, one of 2 with actual personality (the other being Triton)
@@hkazu63 personality? you forgetting the chef? and sebastian? heck even the seagull had more depth than the two main characters LOL
Same
I thought I was the only one haha
That's dark😂
They are not right. Their motives are just understandable.
Ursula
The only Disney character with realistic body expectations.
for legal purposes that is a *j o k e*
😂😂😂
Great disclaimer for the sarcastic dense hehehe.
She is basically the only one whose body punishes her for overeating though. No other Little Mermaid character other than Carlotta seems to have to worry about it at all!
Ursula was inspired by a drag queen named Divine.
I love Ursula.
Big Hero 6 was amazing. The villain had a real reason behind his motivations and was very relatable.
Villian: *has a legit motive and reason to be bad*
Everyone: no no he's got a point
Well here's the thing. Syndrome wanted to BE a superhero. To get the glory, to be the one people admired. He didn't actually want to DO superhero work. That includes the little stuff like rescuing a cat from a tree while trying to stop a thief.
That's not being a superhero, that's being a glory hound.
Mr. Incredible DID say he signed tons of stuff and took pictures with Syndrome. Which is all you can expect a real celebrity to do. Having a fan break into your car and follow you around is stalker-ish and not ok. I don't think he should have been #1.