Challenger Drag Race! - SE vs R/T vs SRT8
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- MT Technical Director Frank Markus tests the three 2009 Dodge Challenger variants - SE, R/T, SRT8 - with a three-way drag race and laps around our figure eight. Read the story here: www.motortrend....
Well, that went as expected
😂 💀
RT did really well against its bigger brother.
Mike Gee and a slightly modded srt can really blow its doors off
504daniel it’s like comparing apples to oranges 🤷🏻♂️
Jason RumbleBee they can still be compared but at the end of the day the art has the better engine. 5.7s can be found cheap now tho
chiggins yeah you’re kinda right
@@504daniel7 Modded 5.7 Kills Modded 6.4
According to Dodge, Challenger sales have been slowly INCREASING since its debut in 2008! That's unusual in the auto industry. Sales usually DECREASE over the years. This is why Dodge keeps putting-off the discontinuation of the Challenger. It's also why they haven't changed the body styling that much. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Literally the only one who understands that saying.
Well, so far the styling has improved for the front, rear and the interior.
The 2010 cars still look fine for what they are.
I'll still take a '70 all day. 100% class. .. but even for the year, I'll take a 'Cuda or Road Runner. More of a Plymouth guy and all
@@CaptainFALKEN As cool looking as the older ones are, widebody Hellcats are wild to look at in person.
That's my point everytime someone says something about the "old" body style
Thanks for the information, Captain...
Now, now! No favourites when choosing between siblings, their all equally talented in their unique ways!
Ryan Rush ha haaaa
Everyone downs the Challenger because its such a heavy car but when driving it, its a totally different story. When you buy a challenger you not only getting engine you always getting luxury on the inside. I also been inside of Mustang and Camaros and you don't get luxury only engine. Sorry I would take the Challenger any day.
please my 97 240sx is more luxury then a challenger. the charger is just garbage
cincysilvia8807 Really you must not have stepped foot inside of one. Leather wrapped steering wheel, leather and suede seats with white stitching. 6 inch Nav System and premium sound system. I'm pretty sure your pretty little 240 didn't come this way! STOP IT!
cincysilvia8807 The challenger's interior looks like garbage? That 240's interior looks about 10x worse than the challengers'. Exterior doesn't look any better on the 240 either.
why would you compare a new cars vs a car thats 17 years old? try harduuuuur. and yes the challengers interior is shit.
cincysilvia8807 You're just making yourself look like an idiot.
I test drove both the SRT and the Camaro SS before going with the SS. I love the new Challys look but it felt like a tank when I drove it and it didn't feel as if it had the HP the Camaro does even though only 1HP separates them. I attribute that to the excessive weight it was carrying around. The Camaro is a heavy car too, but is roughly 600lbs lighter than the SRT and believe me, that made a hell of a difference. I'm not knocking on the SRT because I would love to own both. Competition is good
12000$ more for the srt8 over the rt and it's only a pole length faster....
Is not only that, you get better suspension better brakes better interior better exterior better everything
Plus if you were to supe it up you are going to get more out of the SRT then you would the r/t
maidenrulz73 don’t forget that the SRT has the 6.1 and that’s a huge deal
You get way more than just HP on the SRT. Suspension, brakes, electronics, tuning capabilities and more. I had the 5.7 JGC and then went to the SRT and wow what a difference.
@@chrishendrickson2392 Don't say supe. Its not kosher... And no you wouldn't You can get more boost out the 5.7 hemi then the SRT8 engine thats why most people go for the R/T if they're wanting to add a supercharger to it for half the cost and gain tons of Horses in the processs and at the end of the day still spend less.
@Motorfordtoyota Yes, I believe the engine platform will be called "Pentestar" and it will supposedly reach around 300 HP for the 2011 year models
Good prediction
@@LamontBoucherville Right! I thought he was joking at first until I read how long ago the comment was posted
@@jessies1509 😭 exactly.
'70 challenger with '08 suspension and steering
end of story
Lol
The R/T and SRT were a lot closer then I thought they were going to be.
Driver skill gap
This was also the 3.5 V6 250hp not the 305hp Pentastar. Would be interested to see how the current models stack up.
Wouldnt be any diff
@@paulmarclalonde3834😂 yep lol those are boats. The AWD SXT’s and Gt’s are even worse off….
love my 2010 R/T Challenger. Borla Atak Exhaust, K&N Intake, Headers... amazing ride and over 400+HP with that aggressive sound💪😎
#MOPAR
what kind of headers?
+Ash Borla long tube headers... 28-39+hp
Ugh i love Mopars but that weight 😭😭😭🤔
Jorge Pulido might be a thyroid problem, don't hate
Christopher Fletcher m
I saw a guy in a modded out RT running mid 12s in the quarter. These things can be beasts if you just put some work into them! They sound amazing with some exhaust too
@MangoSmoothie16 SRT8 differences:
Bigger engine, HID's, Electronic Convenice Group, 20" wheels forged wheel, Limited slip, 14.2" Brembo brake system, Suspension tuning (stiffer), larger sway bars, Performance gauge package (G-force cornering, braking, 1/4mi, 1/8mi timer), 13-speaker Kicker system option only for SRT
functional hood scoops, leather /alcantara (synthetic suede) seats unique to SRT - plus those versions have larger side bolsters and taller seatbacks.
Neeeed an updated version
Sergio Coria Trow in the Deamond
I’d be interested in an updated version of this. I’m trying to convince my wife to put her 2020 SXT up against my 2011 SRT8... hers goes like a stabbed brat and I’m not entirely certain that the Pentastar with the eight speed automatic couldn’t perform very credibly.
It would be great of they could re create this video Today! With the 2015s!! All more powerul
my question is can the 2015 v6 8 speed challenger beat this 2009 Srt8?!
187onYaAs
Wouldn’t be surprised.
However, I would rather have an older SRT-8 rather than a new V6.
187onYaAs not even close, 2009 srt8 makes 425 hp and tq
The new v6s are the old rt's they go 160 and I guess the new rt's are 180 like the old srt8s
Great, brief and fast comparison
How it should be
RT is good but the v6 is nothing the srt8 its the best of course but the price gap between RT and srt8 is too much!!
I just test drove a 2010 RT and i gotta say, its a great driving car. looks awesome.
I love my R/T..!
@tsblair95 actually let me rephrase that, its not a full size sedan itself but the body is built of of a full size sedan platform which is why it is so heavy and expensive.
xb1 vs ps4 vs pc
Are you serious? obvious pc always wins.
+Cool Story Bro u didnt get what he did didnt u
+TMNT 1984 more like ps2 vs ps3 vs ps4
xb1 and ps4 are fucking equal.
TMNT 1984 true
@erniegasgnon Fair enough. But you have to look at the cars Dodge builds from a financal point. Mercedes just dumped them and right when that happened, we went into a ression. They didn't have time to devolop a whole new platform for the Challenger so the decided to use the LX.
V6 sucks
@scorpserpent ok thats why corvette ZR1s come with an adjustable magnetic suspension and Carbon Ceramic brakes?Or why The camaro puts down over .90g on the skidpad.There are no problems with engineering,just weight.
Ewe that V6 is just not going to do. Pretty much a girls car, should be pink lol
+Jaymes Kinash Your pretty funny, must own a W or H.
😂🤣
You're right. I should have been more specific. You're numbers are correct, for the six speed. I meant the automatic which runs 13.1. It will beat the SRT in a drag race. It has the new 5.7 highest compression Hemi with VVT and is much lighter. The SRT will still win a highway race always.
why would i blow 30+ k on a challenger when i could buy and actual car for same price ? :D
Ps3xNecrosis nope but im pretty sure you are
such as the camaro :D
Uh, so you believe the Challenger isn't a car?
Tristan Turner the camaro is a shitty car haha my challenger srt8 could blow any camaro away. The challenger is the only true muscle car left in production.
Ryan Chumley Considering the Camaro has beat the Challenger in all races, It just proves how much you truly know, dont come crying to me one day when your shitty challenger breaks down in the middle of the highway just because its a piece of shit dodge lmao. Chevrolet is far beyond any other car dealer, especially dodge, Ford is the only ones who can compare.
same here. was so close buying a 2012 challenger, but then switched back to good ol maro.. got a '11 2SS/RS convertible. i really love my ride. even if over here in germany, people tend not to know what a camaro is... sad but true
OMG I'm rolling laughing here when he then changed to there's also handling and braking to be considered too. Omg stop your killing me that's a boat with a sponge for a suspension.
yea that sounds like a good idea. v6's are great first cars to have. my first car that i have right now is a v6 95 camaro and i love it. when i get kids, the first cars they are getting are guna be v6's. v8's are hard to handle for a first car, and expensive.
@monstersupra808 No. I'm saying that if you run the same 3 stock cars repeatedly, the outcome of their individual times will change very little. They didn't sandbag the v6 or give the SRT8 head start. This was just to show the difference in a side by side race video rather than just post times to compare. The best model won. If you don't like how they did it, get some Challengers together and make your own video to prove this one wrong.
The thing I like about the Challenger is that even the cheapest, V6 version has most of the hot looks the top-of-the-line SRT8 has.
Gorgeous car. Sadly, I don't think Chrysler will last long enough to improve it.
So... thoughts on the Challenger now?
Love the way these things look. I have Mustangs but I'm thinking I'd like one of these now haha.
In 2017 - the SE base model with 100k miles has a hefty asking price on the used market. $21,999 was the 2009 price. In 2017 dealers are asking $12-15k. I'd think it should be closer to $10k - but that's just my opinion.
@911royal911 You're right for the cameras but I think they just did several races and cut the video to make it look like a single one.
I have the 2012 charger R/T MAX ( the 1 with the front black grills) ... and the only way i can disable the seconds ESP is by pressing he traction button for 8 seconds. But ABS still plays a role in holding the car even if the traction is off. The only way you can completely disable traction is by pulling out fuse number 14 from the fuse box next to the engine. DO that an watch your beast smoke that road.
Man I sat in a hemi orange 09 challenger rt and it was awesome.I wanted to stay in it forever. I a chevy man but I love this car, I just don't know how some people can dislike this car, IT"S BEUTIFUL!!!!!!!!! Can't wait t sit in the new camaro, and I'm only 14!!!!!!!!!!!
@xaggresivex only if you have STP, the super trac pac option, otherwise you cannot disable ESC
The v8 can be used as a daily driver easily. Smart thing to do if u wanted the srt8 is just wait a year until they drop the price 10 grand. look at srt8 chargers now, u can buy one for like 22grand instead of 40grand. O and my dad has a rt charger and it does really really good on gas and its a daily driver.
250 lbs torque and 250 HP on the V6 base model. He said it right up front. In slalom, he stated you could shave off 1 second by going with the R/T. The point is that he is telling everyone what the "difference" is, not the specs for each car. Their recommendation on bang for the buck. Not Fail.
if they did a drag race with the modern GT, R/T and whatever SRT/Scat. the result will be a little different. big difference will be that the GT WILL keep up with the R/T for a bit, especially if its the AWD
@muska656 its not though! look at some more videos or search some forums, the average times for stock mustangs are faster than stock camaros
@AnonymoussourceL0L You're wrong lol. The reason current muscle cars (sans the mustang) are so heavy as they are based off Sedan architecture. The Challenger off the LX platform, the Camaro off Zeta. Mustang is its own standalone platform which will change with the next generation as it will share a platform with the ford falcon.
To set the record straight for you all, yes the Mustang prototype was out at Watkins Glen in 1962, but it was nothing like the Mustang we know now. Carroll Shelby was the one who called it a secretaries car, but made it his biggest hit as a true sports car, and Lee Iacocca was not hired by the gov. Lee had always loved Ford and got his start in a dealership making pennies on the dollar. Lee actually designed the car without Henry Ford II knowing about it until the project was almost finished.
After owning my 15 R/T since 2017, I still love it just as much as I did when I got it, probably more now that it has my own touches. I also have an 06 3.9L V6 monte carlo and would live to find a 3.5L and 3.6L challenger/charger/300 to race. My minte is 242hp/242lb-ft and on paper it beats a 3.5L car because of the weight difference. But im also curious how close it would be to a 3.6L altho I know my monte would lose.
Love the 2000s Monte Carlos!
@clonecommandermike332 my 06 has been sitting for 2 months now. Needs too much fixed and is rusted out now with only 107k on it. Going to be getting it ready to sell or scrap this weekend unfortunately.
@@timmypstyle That's too bad. I liked the styling of the 2000s Montes, especially the 2006-2007 facelift. It sounds like yours has reached the end of its life, but I would like to own one someday. In 30-40 years, it will probably be a rare classic!
@clonecommandermike332 it was definitely a nice car when I got it. Bought it in 2017 with 61k miles on it. Only paid $4k cash for it. Nothing out of the ordinary for repairs except what the rust would cost to fix. It's been a good car. Had an 03 SS at the tune I bought the 06 but the 03 had high mileage and had issues. Just had it for a winter beater, but it kept breaking down right before every snow storm. So the 06 got driven in the salt and snow those few times. And that's what killed the 06.
In a passenger car or sport car. Small motor + Turbo = Great efficiency, when properly tuned.
@microminiskirt the STP (super trac PAC option) is like $300 option, it's the best deal to get btw, u need the 20" already, but you get Bilstein shocks all around, a 1.5" lower ride, up sized brakes and the ability to de-activate ESP (trac control, and ride "stability") without STP there used to b a "key trick" but I heard it no
Longer works.
Now to the ride, look a new stang will eat my lunch on a dead 0-60 run, and I almost bought one, but the ride quality, and quietness is unsurpassed, c
If you have super trac pac, you can disable completely, if not? Then pull
Fuses, challengers SRTs and R/Ts with this stp, they can fully disengage all
Systems for stability and traction
@TeadTheBag The Solstice doesn't have a V4. The V stand for that the connecting rods and pistons come off the the crankshaft like a V. The GXP has a I4 meaning inline 4 or staright 4. I am not trying to be a prick, but there is a diffence in the two. The inline you will get a pretty good high-end torque.
@ratbat53 I have the SE too and I totally love it. The styling of the Challenger totally KILLS the Camaro & Mustang. More spacy too! With me living in the city (so many lights n' cops) there's not much sense paying extra for a HEMI unless you care more about bragging rights...
Yea, on the challenger i really don't expect it to last more than 2-3 years. Now, i don't know what chrysler considers good, but I definitely know they are way behind the mustang and camaro in sales. I've seen sales for the challenger as low as 700 and rises to about high thousands. In any case the sales aren't looking good for the car.
@911royal911 Motortrend makes agreements with certain car manufacturers which lead to bias tests. That is why they declared the best mid-size sedan the Toyota Corolla. They also declared the Hyundai Genesis to be a better car than the Mustang V6, even though the Mustang beat the Genesis in every performance test.
I enjoyed this video several times. Now all motortrend needs to do is a 3 way contest between the '11 Mustang , 5.0 liter GT & GT500 !!! Better yet, let's have a 4 way contest include the Boss 302 !!! Sounds like a winner too me !!!
I driven a 3.5 Challenger and it run better then you would think and the loks you get says it all and it handed better then I tought in curres.
Makes me happy to know that after a year and half with 09 challenger R/T i am still glad i made the right choice
@GMCman82 LOL No thanks. I watched my friend's 91 caprice lose a wheel and come to a grinding halt sideways on its front rotor. But thats what best translates the feel of the cabin inside while driving the SE. It feels like a boat.
What i said was K-cars do you remember them. Obviously thats why i mention Chrysler before . The "period" punctuation didn't appear in the post
Still no video of a 2014 and up Dodge Challenger/Charger SE/SXT vs a R/T both unmodified.
Challenger, Camaro, and Mustang. Putting your Civic to shame with style since the 60's!
Yes the traction control can be totaly shut off by holding the button for about 20 sec and it is absolute madness...
mmm pretty close the R/T and SRT8 eh? I thought it would've been so much distance between this two... dunno if its worth paying extra for the SRT8, R/T seems the best option, what u think?
Out of the 3 models: SXT, R/T and SRT which car will have the softest ride and most comfortable ride on real roads being in a bad state of repair? Does the SXT really get that much better gas mileage than the other two because it's still a big heavy car.
Variable cam timing and higher compression don't mean anything if it still makes less power...and even if the SRT weighed MORE than the R/T, it isn't a gap that 50 hp won't compensate for.
@AznAllstar a six speed manual has been an option for almost 2 years.
the guy in the SE pulled the short straw!! Great test though. really shows the power difference between the different models
@puffrooster I had a new driver cross into my lane & we hit headon. My GP GXP kept me safe but it was destroyed. Now I drive a new Challenger SRT8 that has a 5 star crash rating, my quickest stock 1/4 miles is 12.8@107.5 and I get 26mpg on the hwy. For me a car is more than just a way to get from one place to another. It's not an ego thing but more of an enjoyment thing.
It all comes down to what you like: If you are a Mopar man / woman than this is the ride for you. They did a hell of a job as far as Retro gos and I LIKE IT! If you don't; go buy a Stang, Maro or a Ricer! It's your choice and your bucks!
@SRSvictor they offered straight 6's in the origanal challengers as well. they're kinda rare cause ppl swapped them out for v8s over the years, to create "clones".
@MrEricsguitar Actually their smart for offering it just like the mustang and camaro have v6 models. It's so they can knock the price down so it's more affordable and more efficient. Though I'd never be caught in a v6 muscle car, lol.
this video is all about challengers so why do people click on this only to insult it, why? do you really like to argue
@elmetalero3000 The list is all messed up. Muscle cars are Chargers and now the Challenger/Camaro/Mustang, sports cars are Vettes, Vipers even though Vipers are more exotics becuase they only produce less than 4000 per year. Who knows that the GTR is? Sports car? Super car? cant be an exotic...
@jesusegs95 the regular corvette has no turbo. the closest to that would be the zr1 which is supercharged and i'm pretty sure puts out more than 600 horsepower. what does that srt8 put out? 425?
good old days!
@EnEsFive the Z28 has the Vette ZR1 6.2L Supercharged 638 BHP Motor and with the SS stick cost about 40k I doubt it will be cheaper than a Shelby at 50k but then again its an SS with a supercharger from what I know. But the 2011 GT will be great making 400 WHP Stock for the mid 30k range will be a steal. A Supercharger bolt ons PCM tires etc could easily be 700+ BHP
@BudweiserCharger9
My civic walks on lambo's....there is nothing wrong with a civc. Here are my specs.
BODY: 2007 Civc SI Coupe
ENGINE: 05NSX-T 3L, MID6
PARTS: Bored 3.2L, Iron forged pistons, sleeves, and rods./ custom self built exhaust, race header, and piping for ball bearing turbo. Chipped, no NOS...
TURBO: tuned to 21 PSI
WEIGHT REDUCTION: cut down 1125lbs...added roll cage.
1/4 MILE as of 2009: 7.2 seconds
1/2 MILE as of 2009 11.34 Seconds
0-60MPH: 3.6 seconds
0-100MPH: 7.2 Seconds
Buddy I love the new camaro and I have every intention of buying it, but I don't know where you got your facts from. V6 challenger: 250HP, R/T 370HP, SRT8 425HP. Personally I think the challenger looks better, but the complete overhaul of the Camaro giving it touches of classic and touches of modern and an extremely well done interior, well i think you get it.
I weighed the R/T. Some of them range between 3920 and 3950 lbs. They also have variable cam timing and higher compression than the SRT8.
The Corvette is practically the best muscle car built today, only rivaled by the Viper. More power and lighter weight makes the Vetter faster and much more nimble than the Mustang, Challenger, and Camaro. So many people want a Challenger because the retro styling and "HEMI". Personally, I've always been a Mustang fan but off the factory line, the Challenger is an impressive car. It's easy to say "supercharge this", or "turbo that". But realistically, people just stick with what they buy.
I put a diablo in tune k&n cold air intake and under drive pulleys fluidamper and it performs like a v8. But with the better gas mileage.
You can get 2011 R/Ts from Dodge for around 27 or 28k right now. With they money you'd save over an SRT8, you can build an absolutely beastly supercharged Challenger.
I'd like to see this comparison done with the 2012 models, quite a few changes on all 3 cars since the initial release.
Does the Trac Pac option on R/T stiffen up the ride to the point you will feel every bump on the road? Going from 18 inch tires to 20 inch tires does this contribute to an uncomfortable ride and or noise?
Next up: the 72.8L Hemi with 500hp that gets -9279 mpg and does -1.4g on the skidpad! Tow hitch included!
@Th3GamerGuy Just a question, but what is your rpm range? Sounds like it would have to be damn high to get that kind of power. Could you also make a video to prove it? Not to be rude but i would have to see it to believe it... you know what im saying?
I remember on my B-Day my dad said he bought one of these for me, and i looked outside and it was sitting in my drive-way! Then ten seconds later he said "have as much fun as possible". I said "why". He said "Because i DID get it for your b-day................ Just your B-day. It's going back tomorrow because its a rental". I was like GOD DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would just save up some more and get a R/T. But I do like the fact that you can turn of traction control on the SRT.
To me, the R/t is what makes the most sense. Not nearly as much on isurance as the SRT8, better gas mileage, and you still get a nice sounding V8 engine.
@bootyknocker2010 The point was to see how far apart each trim level was, and then compare that with the prices to see which car was the best value.
When I had my rt ill I wanted was the srt now I have the srt i want the hellcat. It's never enough 😆
@Th3GamerGuy
BHP: 655
TORQUE:345 ft-lbs top end
More parts but I think I beat this horse enough, muscle is awesome, but tuners are better...more power, more accel, and more fun!!
@mstng26744 they were testing it performance compared to the other . its not ment to be a race just a comparisoin test slapnutmodels
@puffrooster The SRT8's comes with EVIC that records performance. My EVIC reads .1sec slower that the track for 1/8 & 1/4. Who knows how close the 0-60 is but the slowest non wheelspin run I've done is 4.4 sec stock. With the tune it's consistant 4.1s. No way it's 6.0 unless it's a crappy mag driver.
With only a tune I run consistant 12.6s in the 1/4. Not too bad for a heavy brick.
Shelby GTS your v6. It puts the specs at 475hp and 450ft lbs O delicious torque. Now for a v-6 those are impressive numbers. I have yet to hear of a main stream after market package for any v6 in chevy or dodges line up that's even close to shelby.
i spent less than 2k on everything and did installs myself, mods are Kooks Heads, Catless mids, Magnaflow exhaust Xpipe back, Ripshifter, K&N CAI, Speedinc SI4 Cam 228/228 588/588 112 Lobe w/ Dyno tune..... other bs but nothing worth typing, before mods my GTO put down 320RWHP 338RWTQ, and ran a 13.243 @ 105.2mph. with current mods im putting down 412RWHP 389RWTQ, and ran a 12.433 @ 112.8 Mph, but need drag bags bad to much tire hop on launch....
U can call it whatever u want but the fact is that it's comfortable, reliable, handles like a high end BMW, and it will give any German car a run for its money. German cars are not what they used to be, I don't care what u say, they are electronic nightmares. And Cts-v looks good too.
True. But categorized by price (very important), the Challenger SRT10 will be out of the Z/28's class. It'll be: the Sixes, R/T vs. SS, SRT8 vs. Z/28, and SRT10 vs. I dunno, a GT500. You can't ignore price range, or it doesn't matter what's faster stock.
Plus, a Challenger SRT10 would only have 44 hp on the Camaro Z/28 (at current 8.4L output), while weighing hundreds of pounds more... I'm not so sure the SRT10 would win
so you go with the base model, put magnaflow on it and twin turbo it and itll smoke both cars for less price right?
what were they doing like 60 mph after 20sec of WOT ? Great editting there Motor Trend
Big open road drag race looks soooooo slow man lol it happens in alot of things just like how slow a plane looks in the sky when its not lol