Half-Life's Ill-Fated Mac Port - Kacey

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    Half-Life for the Macintosh was finished, but never came out. Today, we find out why.
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  • @SomeGuy234
    @SomeGuy234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +385

    I can't be the only one that read this as "Half Life 3 Fated Mac Port" because it looks too much like roman numbers.

    • @the_brallon
      @the_brallon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Some Guy Dadamage dw i did too

    • @gamesergeanthd
      @gamesergeanthd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      same wtf

    • @fatalis7147
      @fatalis7147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I did this just now too, and immediately scrolled down to see if anyone else did the same thing!

    • @xpickpoke2266
      @xpickpoke2266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      same

    • @laze_amvs424
      @laze_amvs424 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      same, legit came to the vid because of this reason.

  • @franciscoandrada412
    @franciscoandrada412 5 ปีที่แล้ว +454

    Rebecca Heinemann is just awesome. She single-handedly did a Doom port in a stupid amount of time and she only failed because they studio leader was an idiot, and now I find out SHE MADE A HALF LIFE PORT? This lady is just amazing!

    • @remasteredretropcgames3312
      @remasteredretropcgames3312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If you only knew the power of OC"D".

    • @slipangle3027
      @slipangle3027 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      That reminds me of the Saturn port of doom, and how it ran like ass because of Carmack's insane demands.

    • @WTFisTingispingis
      @WTFisTingispingis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Burger Becky got things done.

    • @tjrizvi251
      @tjrizvi251 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      She's got a cute kitty too

  • @btarg1
    @btarg1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Wait, THAT REBECCA HEINEMAN? Nice.

    • @Petar321_GT
      @Petar321_GT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      i watched her vid talking about developing doom for the 3do. they tricked her she just had to polish the doom 3do port but she actually had to port it all by herself. and considering the situation, it was a awesome port, music was the best!

    • @tjrizvi251
      @tjrizvi251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Petar321_GT dude Burger Becca is a fucking Gangsta

  • @RiasatSalminSami
    @RiasatSalminSami 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Video Title:
    Half Life lll
    haLF lIFe 3?!

    • @foxtubelp6359
      @foxtubelp6359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Techno Sponge Ill= 3?!

    • @awsumguy
      @awsumguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Techno Sponge way to kill the mood

    • @auzabraar
      @auzabraar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Techno Sponge fun in parties, eh?

    • @007Agentr
      @007Agentr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruhhhh

  • @Sideswipe-gr6kj
    @Sideswipe-gr6kj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Hey what’s happening guys this is kaxey from kaxey news network and today we’re gonna be talking about the canceled half-life port for the Macintosh, let’s go

  • @snapchipper
    @snapchipper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    Someone out there definitely has the code for it. It’s only a matter of time until we find it…

    • @sugarbombs6884
      @sugarbombs6884 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Would love to have it see the light of day

    • @Journey_Awaits
      @Journey_Awaits 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well I doubt it would be that exciting, just normal Half Life for different performance

  • @jakebrown8116
    @jakebrown8116 5 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    Good video but you left out one major part... Valve DID eventually bring Half Life not only to Mac, but also to Linux. Valve has invested a lot into achieving parity between Mac, Linux, and Windows for all of their games.

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  5 ปีที่แล้ว +119

      Fair point, though I was mostly trying to keep this to new information. Not to detract from Valve porting their library to other platforms, because it's a very good thing, but porting to Intel-based Macs is a lot less complicated than porting to PowerPC based Macs. PowerPC is a whole other architecture on top of the OS difference.
      The main reason we saw Mac gaming get a lot more "even" (in terms of ports) in the 2010s was the transition from PPC to Intel in 2005ish making it a *lot* easier. Valve releasing Steam for OS X was just the push it needed.

    • @user-bl5so7dv1s
      @user-bl5so7dv1s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Blame Windows 8 for that

    • @wadmodderschalton5763
      @wadmodderschalton5763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Valve's macOS ports were very short lived when it came to updates, having never made the transition to 64-bit at all, and even since then, Valve has never released a 64-bit only version of Steam ever, not sure why but maybe it's an enterprise related problem to Valve to keep the 64-bit version of Steam in Development Hell forever.
      Even then though, Valve itself is not an enterprise company. And the only 64-bit version of Steam that was released is on macOS, the 64-bit Windows & Linux versions of Steam still remains in development hell pretty much forever.

    • @trismd3
      @trismd3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      let me know when steam doesn't want i386 architecture added and i don't have to add non-free repos.
      Steam on Linux is more half baked than smoking shit weed

  • @Rocky1138
    @Rocky1138 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I had to stop the video a few times to read the text from the postings and the quotes. It was really hard to read text with someone talking a different sentence overtop, and the text was not shown on screen long enough to read it all several times. Great video, though. I had no idea about the Mac port.

  • @banguseater
    @banguseater 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    3:00 Hahahaa PeeWee! I've been playing HL DM with him for years, probably one of the finest and nicest players to keep this gracious deathmatch mode alive. Anyways great video!

  • @penguingalorigin6341
    @penguingalorigin6341 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When you said they were told to destruct the code, I literally gripped my chest in pain... so much work went into it and it probably isn't ever going to get archived.

  • @kyoobqa
    @kyoobqa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wow. Half-Life is my favourite game of all time, and only now do I hear this story. It's actually really sad. I feel so bad for the studio and especially the lady. Having so much work just thrown out the window must be excruciating.

  • @sidewaysfoxbody
    @sidewaysfoxbody 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    i'm stoned silly, i totally read that title as half life 3. 🤣

  • @blackflame_
    @blackflame_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great choice of background music 10/10

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kelly Bailey is incredible.
      Spot the original track though.

  • @dadwhereareyou5702
    @dadwhereareyou5702 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Good video! Never heard about this story until now

  • @tones3dferret
    @tones3dferret 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    How tf you only got 1K subs? This is some 500K quality

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tones thank you :’)

  • @BSPNode
    @BSPNode 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You out did yourself Kaxey! I love these half life videos. Keep it up man

  • @VikingPoodle
    @VikingPoodle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ya got a great channel here. Very well made videos. Glad you showed up in my recommendations. Subbed

  • @HunterTinsley
    @HunterTinsley 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Good video! I don't even like Apple/Macs and this story _really_ bums me out. Folks, this is why you always keep an archive of your code.

  • @OliverBevan23
    @OliverBevan23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great work here, really interesting to find out what happened to the port.

  • @SuperRickrules
    @SuperRickrules 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    very interesting video about one of the many half life ports that never came to be.
    maybe someday we can experience it, lovely video as always.

  • @ClipHub777
    @ClipHub777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    your vids are very unique, good content

  • @crypeton
    @crypeton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This channel is underated and it one of my fav channel

  • @JakeTheGhostYT
    @JakeTheGhostYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    you have earned a sub my dude

  • @Channel9iNE
    @Channel9iNE 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic quality content

  • @gold4cash418
    @gold4cash418 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video, I hope more people see it.

  • @olzhas1one755
    @olzhas1one755 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Gabe!

  • @snoopersmokio
    @snoopersmokio 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is epic.

  • @bigtonybruiser
    @bigtonybruiser 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    underrated vid!!!

  • @wesleybcrowen
    @wesleybcrowen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    merry christmas btw

  • @aceofhearts573
    @aceofhearts573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rip Dreamcast and Mac ports. At least the ps2 came out

    • @Agret
      @Agret 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Dreamcast leak was good, I wonder why Valve didn't want it on those two platforms.

  • @johnmartinez12347
    @johnmartinez12347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Half-Life Ill confirmed!

  • @darknightmike10yearsago
    @darknightmike10yearsago 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I thought it said Half-Life 3 at first, and I was like, "What? It was finished this whole time but got canceled?!" Then I saw it said ill, and not III.

    • @sugarbombs6884
      @sugarbombs6884 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣 Same! Had to do a double take.

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Identical capital "i" and lowercase L will be the death of me

    • @darknightmike10yearsago
      @darknightmike10yearsago 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kacey LOL. Yeah. They look the same.

    • @saltshakerchris2878
      @saltshakerchris2878 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darknightmike10yearsago Damn you, i thought your comment was actually 10 years old

    • @darknightmike10yearsago
      @darknightmike10yearsago 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      AnAsianGenius Haha. I knew I would get someone.

  • @christopherwilliams9418
    @christopherwilliams9418 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really wish there could be some sort of agreement with Valve to release the PPC Mac build of Half Life in some capacity. I mean, we got Star Fox 2, so why not?
    Really I just want to be able to play one of the era defining and genre defining games on my iBook Clamshell lol... I'd pay full modern retail AAA game price for a physical copy.
    I wonder when the last time anyone asked Gabe about it was?

    • @Benzona
      @Benzona 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At the end it says they were instructed to destroy the code, even if they made a sneaky secret copy (which would be illegal) any media from back then is probably perished

  • @icarusgaming6269
    @icarusgaming6269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm getting some Ahoy vibes on this one

  • @highdefinitiongrapes4815
    @highdefinitiongrapes4815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know what you did with that title.

  • @SianaGearz
    @SianaGearz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's not really THAT tough a port. Big endian transition could make map data incompatible and network data, or it could be made to work, but of course a lot of cleanup of the underlying engineering would be necessary. Of course it's not entirely unfair to call HL on Windows-PC a mess because of general software quality issues on the one hand, and immature graphics accelerator support on the other, with Direct3D, OpenGL and Voodoo Glide as competing standards which all had to be supported, and variously broken drivers for each GPU in particular - but OpenGL was fairly robust on a mac back then already. I remember Bungie's Oni ran fine.

  • @Benzona
    @Benzona 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gabe Newell owes each and every member of the team a personal apology.

  • @Kyle-xv5kv
    @Kyle-xv5kv ปีที่แล้ว

    Did the powerpc build of this ever get leaked? I've been digging about forever for even a scrap of information on this. This really needs to get out into the public domain.

  • @nostalgicbannana2336
    @nostalgicbannana2336 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not gone forever there's stuff we've said like this and what fo you know it washed upon shore because someone sold it on ebay

  • @JohnDoe-ke2gx
    @JohnDoe-ke2gx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cant believe noone didnt save the code to themselves

  • @liamwhartonhamilton
    @liamwhartonhamilton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I read ill as III like the roman numerals, so i thought it meant half life 3

  • @joaquinremalante8160
    @joaquinremalante8160 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nobody
    me: *Half Life 3's fated port*

  • @Alex-ui8oy
    @Alex-ui8oy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funnily you can beat and play Half-Life fully on a mac like I have!

  • @RobertJBareIII
    @RobertJBareIII 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I know what you were going for with the game-play section, where it was louder and more prominent and all. But (and this is a personal comment) I think it might be better if you kept it more in line with the general volume of the rest of the video. I usually use my computer with speakers and not headphones and that game-play section had me racing for the volume knob.

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was bad at audio mixing back then. I've gotten a lot better since :)

    • @RobertJBareIII
      @RobertJBareIII 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kaceydotme I've noticed, I'm liking the content. Good stuff (=

  • @j1nz007
    @j1nz007 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    really like the atmosphere and the style of editing. Is there any word to describe this style?

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks Jinzo! This is often called a "video essay," though I don't know if I'd use that term myself. But some of my inspirations who I think have slightly similar content to mine are Green Ham Gaming and Raycevick. You might find some satisfaction in their content. There's also my other videos; I consider atmosphere one of the most important aspect of games and I try to let that shine through in my content.

    • @DodoGTA
      @DodoGTA 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kaceydotme Green Ham Gaming 🤔

  • @hgmd3284
    @hgmd3284 ปีที่แล้ว

    i wonder if valve will recode thier games to run wonderfully on M1 based archetecture? id be a dream having TF2 and Gmod running near flawlessley on macs.

  • @realdunky69
    @realdunky69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did this later change? Iv played Half-Life on a mac through steam

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it was later ported to Intel-based Macs, but that port has nothing to do with this one. This one was pre-Intel.

  • @tigranmelconyan5562
    @tigranmelconyan5562 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sad😟

  • @doitallYT
    @doitallYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well dang, I was just repurposing 2 1994 Mac's with the hopes of playing HL1 😕 what a shame, hopefully someone creates some kind of a homebrew port one day

  • @Xxsergo68
    @Xxsergo68 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn’t the mac port leaked ago ?

  • @TornadoSandwich
    @TornadoSandwich 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Of course today you can just install Windows 10 for free on any Mac (if you don't mind a little watermark) and play just about any PC game you want if your Mac is powerful enough

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      TornadoSandwich Right, and HL also has a native Mac port. But PowerPC Macs didn’t have HL and still don’t.

  • @davidridley926
    @davidridley926 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could've sworn this said Half Life 3

  • @Trexmaster12
    @Trexmaster12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is is buried somewhere or was it destroyed?

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I asked and did not receive an answer. Take that as you will.

    • @anfrac3700
      @anfrac3700 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I own the Mac port on Steam. Its not an actual port, but a conversion of goldsrc into Mac OS X. Valve did it with a bunch of other old games too (CS 1.6, Day of Defeat) Pretty much runs the same as normal half life but with less support.

  • @denizo9263
    @denizo9263 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i see no problems with my linux port

  • @SAClassHunterZero
    @SAClassHunterZero 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, I just drink a lot of WINE now, if you know what I mean, lol

  • @colly6022
    @colly6022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what about the 2010 release? as in the one that I started playing... on my mac.

    • @Callewaerty
      @Callewaerty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Colly This ain’t the same. Mac’s back then were a LOT different compared to the ones we have now, mainly due to architecture and PowerPC/Intel stuff.

    • @colly6022
      @colly6022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Callewaerty yeah but in the video he said half life never got a mac release

    • @Callewaerty
      @Callewaerty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Colly Yeah i think he just forgot about it lol

    • @IanThunderbolt
      @IanThunderbolt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The original version of Half Life has never been ported to Mac, the version you can buy on steam today is the Source engine version of HL 1 not the 98 code that this port was a version of

    • @colly6022
      @colly6022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IanThunderbolt there's half life and half life source, both available for mac

  • @Player3.
    @Player3. ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, mac gamers really got stiffed in the early 2000’s. They got stiffed out of this HL port, and they also lost Halo to Microsoft. Must have been heart breaking for mac gamers.

    • @limpetarch98k
      @limpetarch98k ปีที่แล้ว

      Apple's exagerated claims didn't helped, but even then, a bunch of platforms that were still performing well just didn't survived, with the MacIntosh (and Sega Dreamcast) among them.

  • @SpartanWasTaken
    @SpartanWasTaken 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Kaxey
    I've tried to reach out to you but you don't have info contact. I've kept you in my featured channels and followed you for a while and I plan on dropping some old games content on original Xbox so it would be nice if you could put me in your inspirations, as a mutual advertisement
    Thanks in advance!

  • @TheArtOfTechSupport
    @TheArtOfTechSupport 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm waiting for a port to android

  • @masonhales
    @masonhales 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    and dreamcast

    • @vulcanitu2578
      @vulcanitu2578 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately the dreamcast port is ass, too many loading screens and framerate drops

  • @Fr4ncM
    @Fr4ncM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm such a PC fanboy, but even I have to admit what Gaben did was shitty. One thing is screwing Mac users, but another way different is screwing the honest labor of hard working people. Epic is now using similarly shitty tactics on Valve... Karma is a bitch, I guess.

  • @potatogamer5559
    @potatogamer5559 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    but i can play half life on mac

  • @thebornelazer6435
    @thebornelazer6435 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Who tf r the 2 dislikes???

  • @arcticridge
    @arcticridge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *WRONG!*

  • @Littlefighter1911
    @Littlefighter1911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you purposefully write a big i in the world "ill" so it looks like "Ill"

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every word in the title is capitalized Chief. If you’re expecting HL3 to use Roman numerals it’s your own fault.

    • @Agret
      @Agret 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta get the clicks somehow, TH-cam algorithm is made to game

    • @Littlefighter1911
      @Littlefighter1911 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I suppose "purposefully" is probably not entirely accurate here.
      However I think many people actually did not see the "I" as an "l" and thus thought it's a 3.
      You could have prevented it, and who knows, maybe you even specifically chose that word (there are people smart enough to think about this, and I can imagine, you are as well).
      I'm not bashing you for doing it, I'm just pointing out, it will definitely confuse people.

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Littlefighter1911 I guess my faith in people being literate was too high, and I'm not particularly worried about the opinion of anyone who is prone to being confused by the phrase 'ill-fated.'

    • @Agret
      @Agret 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Littlefighter1911 Make no mistake, he knows what he's doing. Must be new to youtube if you don't recognise clickbait tricks :) he deserves any traffic he gets to his channel, he has good videos and it's not like he is the only one to game youtube.

  • @WA_Stokins
    @WA_Stokins 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hell yea, I love burger becky!
    Trans rights!

  • @neonrelmsproductions4224
    @neonrelmsproductions4224 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You ever try to play anything on a mac? It ain't all that fun.

  • @nacl_keo
    @nacl_keo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know why there was never a macintosh version...
    Apple computer suck ass
    Just because it costs alot does not make it better