I’d like to thank the driver for owning an S2000, actually tracking said S2000, and also having the balls and skill to push that hard. Thanks for playing a part in keeping motorsports(driving) alive. Don’t crash, and have a great life!
wils35 it’s almost more important to me just that he cares enough to put that much into driving, because it's becoming a lost art. But yes, laudable skill indeed.
Bc you're more serious than funny, I dunno if you can get #1 comment here. Still, your points are the #1 that can be said: now I (again) want an S2000, but I don't live on near such a traffic-free course of road. Still, the video was a beauty, driver seemed fully aware & in control all time (like... the revs, the downshifts, the blips, the apexes!, the exits...) and I just want driver to keep his S until July so I can catch a ride when I'm there.
i think the bmw driver was not so good he was breaking in the corners if you understand grip you would not do that not saying i can drive better just know how grip works.you only have 100% grip so if you use som for breaking you cant use it for cornering so you have less grip if you do that in a corner
Peter Hubs - He’d just waved ‘thanks’ to the BM and that split second perhaps made him enter the corner a little quicker than he expected. So without any drama he gathered it up perfectly, many would have gone off probably...
I'm honda chassis engineer in japan and my car is same s2000 AP1. I believe it's the best rap i've ever seen s2000 on this track. Thank you for uploading!
I owned s2000 AP2 for over 10 years. I've never seen anyone driving that car that fast. This guy knows how to drive s2000. I will never be able to drive like him. This is truly insane..... huge respect.
One of my favorite Nurburgring runs on the entire net. Just hearing those high revs and shifts makes it worth it….along with the 20% reduction in drag cause of the passenger’s head.
lol learning the lines wont help him that much. the s2000 driver just has more confidence and knowledge of the track. look at how much speed he carries into the corner, he has better brakes(barely even uses them) and is just an over all better drive. driver mod!
adotwhite You just contradicted yourself *and* supported my opinioin in the same post by saying "knowledge of the track". You mean HE KNOWS THE LINES?>?>?
I guess what I mean tto say is that you're correct, he does need to learn the lines BUT ALSO those are the other reason why he got owned. wasnt just not knowing the lines that held him back.
Notice how the S2000 was able to keep up reasonably with the GTR for a good amount of time and it wasn't until the long straight that the s2000 got left.... says a lot !
@@kaquitt I sometimes wonder how people watch the same exact video as me but somehow process things on the screen differently. One of life's great mysteries I guess
@@KingOfEden12 Listen, the S2000 is an amazing drivers car, an absolute classic of a bygone era when cars were still being made for people who liked driving as a skill. I've owned one back in 2005, sometimes miss it a lot. But in no way shape or form, stock for stock, can it ever keep up with a GTR on a track with drivers of equal skill. Be careful not to let your passion for a certain brand or model cloud reality.
@@kaquitt the gtr beat him fairly easy but the m4 didnt smoke shit lol.The m4 is a faster car yes but the s2000 driver in that video made the difference.
What the hell is wrong with Honda? Why not just sell this car with a revised engine like direct fuel injection and minor tweaks and revised aluminium chassis? Instead they have ruined the nsx with a car that made Senna roll over his grave and made the Type-r hot hatch unobtainable. Just keep shit simple, like this but improved with new tech... Whyyyyy, this car here is glorious
Blank check from mazda to honda....with a memo, "please stay out of our market in entry racing".....Honda is so far from regular Joe racer....I think the SCAA makes entry level race cars....though is strictly for track... just a note that while manufacturer racing is fun...it becomes what F1 is....racing is better when it's about the drivers....to the point of only a couple of cars available on the cheap for the track. This car (S2000) has collector written all over it....a rare thing for such a cheap car....but peeps that like em love em!!
They were going to make a new S2000 then the Twain floods happened which messed up a lot of business that side of the planet. Once they recovered that power station blew which really messed up Honda's production. They are now fully dependent on American and the Europeans design which really only cater for selling to the older market.
dammmm this guy can drive :) S2000 + good driver + track = great video next time try to insert a cam on the steering wheel column so we can see that amazing digital gauge :P and insert a small window on the main video so we can see it at the same time
I’ve been on that track and even after a day I had no idea which way the next corner would go! So... great, great drive from the S2000 driver, just to learn this track is a challenge and they way he would catch the S2K sliding at speed was just poetry in motion. I still would have a helmet as a passenger though, especially with an open top! 😉 I would love to be able to drive that well & safely at speed, thanks for a such a clear video as well & for sharing the mods you’ve done.
Passenger: I don’t know about this mate, I don’t have an helmet, I don’t think it’s safe. Pilot: But you don’t need an helmet, at all. Passenger: So why you have an helmet? Pilot: Mosquitos, very annoying. Passenger: And why you have gloves? Pilot: Cold hands, since I was a kid. Passenger: ... I don’t know... Why do you have a full sweater on, almost looks like a suit? Pilot: Oh this? This is actually a pajamas, I forgot to wear a t-shirt for this race. Passenger: So you think me in a shirt with no helmet and gloves I’m okay for this? Pilot: For a race on the Nurburgring in a cabrio? Totally 👌
Probably about 6% (2800/180) of the vehicle weight, maybe less.....that said my point about the right left weight balance maybe negatively affected...or positively. It's impolite to ask "does it make that big of difference?"....it all adds up...and yes 180 lbs makes a huge difference IF and big IF one can drive the car with perfect tire squeal...
The M4 driver has an awful line, taking corners from the wrong side of the track or moving over last minute, M4 is only quicker in a straight line, because duh its got like 400bhp compared to the 240 in the S2000
Im a BMW driver but People don't realize how big a difference the driver makes. Money doesn't buy skill, skill comes from practice practice practice....
@@Th3_0_h8 those were the later versions, the ap2. America and Japan had those increased 2.2 (UK and others like received facelift ap1 -the 2.0l engine). The 2.2 was made to produce more power and torque, however lost a bit of revs up top. On the track, both engines are very similar, as the loss of power from the 1st gen engines make up for it with the few extra rpm, meaning staying longer in that lower gear...
This is a stock 240bhp AP1 2.0L - I own the same one, I can tell from the engine sound and gear shifting times its a stock s2k - if you want to know why a 240bhp car is able to beat the 420bhp bimmer I can explain
Shame BMW and other German cars are overrated crap. Honda has alot less power but is way better at handling and has much better balance on corners. Honda never intended the s2000 to be a BMW M rival but if they did it would have much more power and would totally destroy the BMW "M" cars at Nurburgring or on any other tracks
Yeah on straightline speed and double if not triple the cost. You can get a used S200 with high miles a lot of places for 10k still... The GTR belongs in the Supra, rx7, NSX, v12, v16 block.... of cars the average joe can't afford.
The BMW driver just doesn't know the track yet, i think. It takes many dozen laps to fully learn this track, it's not like some other short racetrack you can learn in 10 laps or so. So the BMW driver is driving cautiously in a faster car, and Xav_S2000 is driving all-out in a slower car with proper track knowledge.
Mike Miller you need to drink more water so you can learn the tracks easier!! 10 laps for laguna seca or this nordeschlief or anyone i think its too much!!!! XD
Impressionnant. Cette S2000 tient le pavé, pour sûr! Le pilote a l'air de Bien connaître sa voiture, et le circuit. Je n'aurais pas pensé qu'il tiendrait la M4, et encore moins qu'il la passe. Du grand art et beaucoup de plaisir. Y'a des contrebraquages hallucinants et super bien contrôlés. Merci et bravo. Hein JMR?!!! ;-)
Gaz B No it definitely dont as you can see in video, I own the same s2k and there are so many m4’s around me including my neighbours one. They can only win in a drag race, even then on the straight they can barely overtake me, in a track no chance (not them silly nascar tracks though) twin cam allowing 9k revs, lights chassis, agressive gearing ratios, no chance, your just full off Gass B. Do you know why the s2k held the power to weight record for 10years? until loosing it to the ferrari 458 in 2010, because of the outstanding engineering. This is high IQ stuff, this aint no hellcat 😂
That S2000 showed some amazing driving some really impressive cornering and braking, I could see a lot of confidence in the driving, the M4 driver, however, didn't seem as confident and it showed when braking in the corners, the M$ driver could probably have carried more speed in the corners.
The confidence probably came from the difference in value, put the Honda in the wall not too bad, put the M4 in the wall it’s a mortgage your paying back for a tin of beans
Short wheel base, 50:50 weight dist., front-mid engine layout. High speed, cold weather, elevation change, passenger. Ran up on curbing mid drift, full lock, perfect recovery. One of the best real life amateur racing drifts I've ever seen.
That this car is really hard to drive at speeds like this. You can see, that the car is always trying to oversteer in the turn. S2000 is really deadly and it needs to have some skill to drive like this on the edge.
@@supertreme5559 No, the bmw driver was not a good driver, took the wrong lines and was braking where he shouldnt. Video should be called "S2000 vs slow driver in an M4"
僕は日本でS2000 TYPE Sに乗っています。TYPE Sではエアロによる安定性、アンダーステア寄りのセッティング、さらにはトラクションコントールが付いていて僕のような初心者にはうってつけの車です。ですがあなたのようなスーパードライバーの運転するAP1には敵いません…素晴らしい映像をありがとうございます🙏
παλι εσυ ; Φιλαρακι βλέπεις καθαρα ότι ο αδηγος στην bmw δεν ξερει να οδηγαει σε πιστα . Πηγαινε δες τους χρονους για να καταλάβεις τι είναι πιο γρηγορο και τι όχι
The full throttle, full lock drift @about 7:23, right after passing the BMW for the second time, was spectacular. And they were both like, so? Wanna go. Wanna go there. Wanna go to Germany...🙏
No way is he a bad driver ,friend....go there( take it you have,not) he is going hard believe me, any lap close to 8 mins real time is mental fast for the ring,but the Honda guy is braver
Darren Lucas I agree with you, an 8 min lap at the Ring is mental. Hell, even a lap in the 9+ range is scary to be honest. The Ring is a really unique and scary place, can't compare to other tracks in the world and those who had only seen the track on TH-cam or videogames can't figure how these tight corners, slopes and elevation changes look in real life. It's like a freaking roller coaster if you ask me. The track is narrow too, with portions of the pavement always moist (even in most summer days), so you can experience grip changes in a matter of a few metters, while in a braking point for example. Also, camber angle is a real bitch in some corners. Anyway, with all this, I still think the M4 driver is not great or he doesn't know the track well. It's not a matter of bravery IMHO. His lines are all over the place, he doesn't use properly the available track width, his technique is definetly not refined and it's clear that he relies too much on power. The S2k driver is much faster at every single corner while still being much more refined and delicated driving on the limit. To me, it's obvious that he has much more seat time not only at the Ring but any other track.
Well written.....I don't think you could say it much better, I just get a little miffed at times with all these comments about so called " bad" drivers by people that don't have a clue what the ring is like and I couldn't help myself that day to reply lol😂,hey ho. I went twice and my balls are,not big enough......it's like a trackday is a GCSE, the ring is a Master's degree....enough said.
The only racing video I watched till the end. Almost made me feel as if I was in the passenger seat. Sitting with the driver like that makes you feel like there is nothing that can go wrong.
I very rarely sit and watch a 9 minute TH-cam video from start to finish but I did with yours. Very entertaining from start to finish and looked like a lot of fun!
Well, in Korea, we actually learn english from very young age. But for some shitty reason, that english education is not really useful when we actually have to communicate with english users like you guys. Sad thing, isn't it? So don't blame him. It's not his fault. It's a fault of the way how to teach a language of our country.
At 5:52 when he enters the corner a little hot and starts that tail happy S2k sliding, my man instinctively started to correct it then halfway through transferring the weight to correct the slide he decided to casually drift it on through the turn... AWESOME DRIVING 😎
Different comfort level is reason of different speed in the corners. S2000 is roadster, like Z4. Absolutely different cars. S2000 is a little bigger than cart and no even normal trunk. But in BMW you can sit with your wife, dog, grandmaa, childrens in same time ang go whatever you want with this big company, and you will be a little bit slower that f@king sport ready roadster with no space and no comfort. Think about ths first.
@@nauvofact993 Nah, there's not enough space in the trunk. You need a wagon to do that. When you're talking about sportscars, family space doesn't matter. It's all about speed, agility through corners and fun.
Ha...thinking the same thing. The passenger is just chillin there like he's going in a nice sunday drive, hardly any reactions. If it were me riding shotgun!? while riding along on that track id have been laughing/screaming my ass off at those speeds. Especially during the hard breaking & turns and especially the WOT on the starightaways with the slight inclines leading into near-blind-turns
Wow this is one of the best video of the nürburgring here on youtube. The driver is so damn skilled and i absolutly love this car. The engine is a masterpiece
Wow great driving! I've been owning and racing S2000s for over 15 years and I thought I can drive that car well.. But you have great skills! Awesome stuff man, respect!
+Gordon Clark The BMW did seem to have a very well tuned engine under the hood, but he was going really slow around the corners, as if he didn't have the traction to go faster. He might have been an all-season tires, they don't perform that well on a racetrack.
+Gordon Clark Well, to be fair, he wasn't THAT slow, he did after all do a lap almost as fast as the S2000 driver. :D He could also just have been overly cautious. But I think his main issue was lack of grip because of tires. Just my opinion, ofcourse, I could be wrong - but it would fit his behavior. But you're absolutely right, there's almost always something to consider that you might not know about just from watching a video of them.
+Xav_ S2000 Ah, good to hear I'm not just talking rubbish. :) On a sidenote: It looks like your upgrade have been centered around better grip and lighter weight, rather than more brawn from the engine. Which has the happy upside to it, that the engine doesn't have to be serviced nearly as often as a heavily tuned engine.
Well, it's still Tourist Driving, not a race. He has all the right making that pass, then move over. If you drive there, you have to keep in mind not everybody is driving supercars.
The corner speed that this car can carry its masterclass. Masterpiece of engine . Masterpiece of car . Honda S2000 one of the greatest car ever made in my humble opinion
Jesus fucking christ your Honda handles like a dream. The bit with the diesel-Leon made me laugh. Also, the passenger has balls of steel the size of watermelons, the guys just sitting there all casually lol.
The passenger's head is so aerodynamic +10hp mod.
hdidane00 😂
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
hahaha
And -3kg mod as well.
Driver: Helmet, jacket, gloves.
Passenger: I’ll just rest my hand on top of the A pillar. We good.
We're
for the perfect structural rigidity
Where else is he going to put it? :-)
😆
enjoy the ravel..jajaj
I’d like to thank the driver for owning an S2000, actually tracking said S2000, and also having the balls and skill to push that hard. Thanks for playing a part in keeping motorsports(driving) alive. Don’t crash, and have a great life!
Guy definitely has balls and track knowledge.
wils35 it’s almost more important to me just that he cares enough to put that much into driving, because it's becoming a lost art. But yes, laudable skill indeed.
7:18 lmao 😂 I love it
Bc you're more serious than funny, I dunno if you can get #1 comment here. Still, your points are the #1 that can be said: now I (again) want an S2000, but I don't live on near such a traffic-free course of road. Still, the video was a beauty, driver seemed fully aware & in control all time (like... the revs, the downshifts, the blips, the apexes!, the exits...) and I just want driver to keep his S until July so I can catch a ride when I'm there.
GOD this video makes me miss mine.
Someday, baby.
5:37 You can smell the TDI even form a video.
Miroslav Králik Ahahah Fact !
😂
Smell good so
Haha!!
those shit smell especially when deFAP or/and reprog ! smell like tractor..
No helmet on the passenger? He must have more confidence in the driver than the driver does.
He's just a badass man.
yeah I thought the same, and considered he probably didnt have a seatbelt on either. hahahaha
Ro Tyler
itzZP4tii yesh?
he want to keep his hairstyle cool :D
I don't need a helmet,my arm is like a rollcage!
Dutch Car Painter ..his hair is the helmet!
protecting what ? :D
s2k need his "arm rollcage"
Yea....fuck alk that.....i dont feel that safe goin those speeds with out at least the top on and he's pushing it hard by the sound of the tires...
Dutch Car Painter 🤣
5:50 that oversteer correction, 10/10.
7:20 12/10
+Nik Brudar yes haha
+Owismael Yeah It was fantastic correction. Bravo!
+Owismael that was an induced slide, the correction at 7:21 is worth the nod. 5:50 was done on purpose.
+Daniel K I prefer this one at 7:18 as well. Excellent driving, perfect car!
corner entry and the speed the honda can carry through corners is amazing.
i think the bmw driver was not so good he was breaking in the corners if you understand grip you would not do that not saying i can drive better just know how grip works.you only have 100% grip so if you use som for breaking you cant use it for cornering so you have less grip if you do that in a corner
Honda its a go kart
Fast car (bmw) v fast driver (Honda)
The passenger had all his hair before the ride started
streetministries seven hahaha best comment bruhh 😂😂😂
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA
streetministries seven he should've worn a helmet. His head is all bare naked lol
This is germany joke ? haha
Love this car, both, the car and the driver are amazing
The passenger actually had a full set of hair before the race.
Head of hair*
😂😂😂
Mike Llerena and the hair color was black 😂😂😂😂👍🏻
I heard after the ride he miraculously grew hair! thanks to the Honda gods...
I saw it coming
7:17 -- the most dangerous corner, the most graceful slide
Peter Hubs - He’d just waved ‘thanks’ to the BM and that split second perhaps made him enter the corner a little quicker than he expected. So without any drama he gathered it up perfectly, many would have gone off probably...
Damn right. The only one I went off at and ruined the car ;(
It’s called the “TH-cam Corner” 😉
@@Apollo_s2k The Nordschleife
Bye bye m3 hahaha
Fecking hell, a lesson in how to ring out every last particle of what your vehicle can deliver. Respect.
These hondas love to be revved out like that dont they lmao
Tis what the S2000 was made for. Thats why theres so much love for it
I'm honda chassis engineer in japan and my car is same s2000 AP1.
I believe it's the best rap i've ever seen s2000 on this track.
Thank you for uploading!
thank you so much. Thank you to all Honda engineers for your fabulous work.
@m nagata
Build us new s2000
I love Japanese cars! Always have, always will have my respect.
This seems more like racist troll than true engineer. No way are you going to type rap instead of lap.
@@PnTNecrosis calm down snowflake not everything is racist and offensive....
I owned s2000 AP2 for over 10 years. I've never seen anyone driving that car that fast. This guy knows how to drive s2000. I will never be able to drive like him. This is truly insane..... huge respect.
Motohauru Kurosawa take a look at his lap back in 1998 before it was released got a berlina Black ap2
This is so satisfying to watch! Brilliant corrections, beautiful cornering, and beautiful sportsmanship between the BMW and s2000 :)
03:00
M4: Im fast.
S2000: Look my drift, Im faster
GTR: Hold my beer.
Even though I don't totally agree... your comment is hilarious hahaha
New Nsx. Hold my 🍺 box
@@justanothertroll9205 na new nsx is wack
I wish ever to see what a Gtr35 would if not turbocharged... lol probably suck as hell
m5 e 60 g power
One of my favorite Nurburgring runs on the entire net. Just hearing those high revs and shifts makes it worth it….along with the 20% reduction in drag cause of the passenger’s head.
With a bald head, maybe 18% reduction.😁
The power to weight ratio is impeccable. Allows for late corner breaking. Honda truly created the perfect track car.
pretty awesome indeed. it even translate to racing games. this car scales like no other in them.
This guy knows how to fucking drive!
SjefeNoverSjef 🖕🖕
Passenger will remember this ride for the rest of his life :)
So will his proctologist.
So will I...
I bet the passenger is just as good a driver,he was as cool as a cucumber,he been there before.
More like traumatized.
@@dennisdobin1918 def not his first time
i normally think clips from Nurburgring are very boring but this clip had me glued to the screen for the whole 9+ min.
Awesome and thanks for sharing!
Thanks for this message ;-)
, i was mesmerized for the whole 9 minutes myself.
100%
The M4 driver needs to play some more Gran Turismo and learn the lines!
lol learning the lines wont help him that much. the s2000 driver just has more confidence and knowledge of the track. look at how much speed he carries into the corner, he has better brakes(barely even uses them) and is just an over all better drive. driver mod!
adotwhite
You just contradicted yourself *and* supported my opinioin in the same post by saying "knowledge of the track". You mean HE KNOWS THE LINES?>?>?
I guess what I mean tto say is that you're correct, he does need to learn the lines BUT ALSO those are the other reason why he got owned. wasnt just not knowing the lines that held him back.
the s2000 is still faster at cornering and braking
Not like he's a bad driver or anything though. Just not as good as the s2K driver
This was definitely some of the best driving i've seen; skillful with just the right amount of risk.
Notice how the S2000 was able to keep up reasonably with the GTR for a good amount of time and it wasn't until the long straight that the s2000 got left.... says a lot !
haha you got to be joking they could not even stay with it lol
Let's be real even the M4 smoked him. The only thing was the M4 driver did not have belly otherwise that S2000 would also be left behind.
@@kaquitt I sometimes wonder how people watch the same exact video as me but somehow process things on the screen differently. One of life's great mysteries I guess
@@KingOfEden12 Listen, the S2000 is an amazing drivers car, an absolute classic of a bygone era when cars were still being made for people who liked driving as a skill. I've owned one back in 2005, sometimes miss it a lot. But in no way shape or form, stock for stock, can it ever keep up with a GTR on a track with drivers of equal skill. Be careful not to let your passion for a certain brand or model cloud reality.
@@kaquitt the gtr beat him fairly easy but the m4 didnt smoke shit lol.The m4 is a faster car yes but the s2000 driver in that video made the difference.
That M4 driver was sad in the corners
shit specs + overboosted
Best he can do with that tank, he should drag race 😂
What the hell is wrong with Honda? Why not just sell this car with a revised engine like direct fuel injection and minor tweaks and revised aluminium chassis?
Instead they have ruined the nsx with a car that made Senna roll over his grave and made the Type-r hot hatch unobtainable. Just keep shit simple, like this but improved with new tech...
Whyyyyy, this car here is glorious
Blank check from mazda to honda....with a memo, "please stay out of our market in entry racing".....Honda is so far from regular Joe racer....I think the SCAA makes entry level race cars....though is strictly for track...
just a note that while manufacturer racing is fun...it becomes what F1 is....racing is better when it's about the drivers....to the point of only a couple of cars available on the cheap for the track.
This car (S2000) has collector written all over it....a rare thing for such a cheap car....but peeps that like em love em!!
oh and of course Skip Barber series (formula 2000) for those getting serious on the cheap.
Driver7 exactly what i'm thinking why does today's Japan manufacturers trying to give their cars a supercar look like r35 or 370z? I never get it...
They were going to make a new S2000 then the Twain floods happened which messed up a lot of business that side of the planet. Once they recovered that power station blew which really messed up Honda's production. They are now fully dependent on American and the Europeans design which really only cater for selling to the older market.
dammmm this guy can drive :)
S2000 + good driver + track = great video
next time try to insert a cam on the steering wheel column so we can see that amazing digital gauge :P and insert a small window on the main video so we can see it at the same time
hell yea. That's what we all want
And a camera on the pedals... with back-lights, of course ;)
Just like in "Hot Version"
ZLY WEISIOR you have the same pic as me
He cant....weight reduction
I’ve been on that track and even after a day I had no idea which way the next corner would go!
So... great, great drive from the S2000 driver, just to learn this track is a challenge and they way he would catch the S2K sliding at speed was just poetry in motion.
I still would have a helmet as a passenger though, especially with an open top! 😉
I would love to be able to drive that well & safely at speed, thanks for a such a clear video as well & for sharing the mods you’ve done.
Honda s2000
Car 80%
Skill 100%
......
So was his final score 180%?
@@cincyspin178 hahaha, so much so that he had to drive backward to beat that Skyline ^^
@@KC16A6 Lol...they are incredible cars.
passenger 200+%
@@petrolheadl3856 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you guys !
CX z
Your welcome ☺
+Xav_ S2000 you should be a transporter. drives so well and so fast!
+Xav_ S2000 thank you!
+Xav_ S2000 Joli pilotage et sympa la glisse dans le droite juste avant le caroussel !
Holy shit that was intense, this driver is ACE at getting the max from the S2000!!
Car is so balanced. Not fighting it. Love that 9000 rpm motor
7:20 this guy done it like PRO! respect ))
TH-camr that is a super save
I woulda crapped myself if I let myself slide in my old S2k at that speed. Damn - dude can drive.
In that moment I stopped the video.
I want to learn to drive my S2000 like this. Amazing oversteer handling and really pushing the limits. Fantastic!
@flyingeagle357 Yeah, he lets the tail hang out at 5:52 which is when the BMW catches him again.
Plain and simple - this guy can drive
No helmet in a convertible on a race track, seems safe.
helmet is to prtect the brain,you don't need one if you don't have any!LOL
If he lands on his head he’s cooked either way, helmet or not
Probably not even wearing a seat belt xD
Especially seeing the driver wearing racing gloves and helmet 😆
going that fast in a crash the helmet isnt going to save much
Amazing driving. Such great skill. Thanks for that awesome demonstration of the capability of the s2000.
Passenger: I don’t know about this mate, I don’t have an helmet, I don’t think it’s safe.
Pilot: But you don’t need an helmet, at all.
Passenger: So why you have an helmet?
Pilot: Mosquitos, very annoying.
Passenger: And why you have gloves?
Pilot: Cold hands, since I was a kid.
Passenger: ... I don’t know... Why do you have a full sweater on, almost looks like a suit?
Pilot: Oh this? This is actually a pajamas, I forgot to wear a t-shirt for this race.
Passenger: So you think me in a shirt with no helmet and gloves I’m okay for this?
Pilot: For a race on the Nurburgring in a cabrio? Totally 👌
OMG! You killed me lol :D
Passenger: And with no seat belt? Am I fine still?
WTF?
Lmao 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
You got BALLS! Your passenger got even BIGGER BALLS for not wearing a helmet!! Great driving man.
One of the best S2000 drivings I've ever seen... Congrats, you have some serious balls mate! Keep Driving like that!
"Don't worry, my driver has a helmet"
Une S2000 qui mène la vie dure à une M4 ! Bravo au pilote Honda je suis fan !!! Super vidéo on a l'impression d'y être !! 👍💪👏
Vtec kicks 👍...but you know how to handle that car...driver matters...wow...you drive mate
Love it how the driver is full geared up with helmet as well while passenger is casual 😎
7:18 jesus christ....
S2000 rpm range is pretty good... allows you to hold a gear through an entire corner after corners...
Imagine that same run but without the extra weight in the passenger seat.
Thinking the same thing
nah throws the left / right off balance...this driver is PRECISE!! ahahhaha
does it make that big of a difference?
Probably about 6% (2800/180) of the vehicle weight, maybe less.....that said my point about the right left weight balance maybe negatively affected...or positively. It's impolite to ask "does it make that big of difference?"....it all adds up...and yes 180 lbs makes a huge difference IF and big IF one can drive the car with perfect tire squeal...
I dont see how that is impolite, its simply curiosity.
Nice, skill beats money every time.
you think that was a beating to m4?HAHAHA...it's more like the driver of the m4 let him pass
Unless you bought the GTR. Then you just win.
The M4 driver has an awful line, taking corners from the wrong side of the track or moving over last minute, M4 is only quicker in a straight line, because duh its got like 400bhp compared to the 240 in the S2000
Im a BMW driver but People don't realize how big a difference the driver makes. Money doesn't buy skill, skill comes from practice practice practice....
@@mattanderson1887 In this case it's more about intimate familiarity with the particular track then skills or cars I think.
The S2K sounds great, love the driving.
4 cylinder 2.0L! wow! I respect the S2K.
Then the boss showed up "GTR".😂😂😂.
Poor bmw🤔
Nice-oscar it's probably tuned.
I thought these where 2.2 ?
@@Th3_0_h8 those were the later versions, the ap2. America and Japan had those increased 2.2 (UK and others like received facelift ap1 -the 2.0l engine).
The 2.2 was made to produce more power and torque, however lost a bit of revs up top.
On the track, both engines are very similar, as the loss of power from the 1st gen engines make up for it with the few extra rpm, meaning staying longer in that lower gear...
This is a stock 240bhp AP1 2.0L - I own the same one, I can tell from the engine sound and gear shifting times its a stock s2k - if you want to know why a 240bhp car is able to beat the 420bhp bimmer I can explain
Shame the m4 driver didn't have the skills at the turnings.
Shame BMW and other German cars are overrated crap. Honda has alot less power but
is way better at handling and has much better balance on corners. Honda never intended the s2000 to be a BMW M rival but if they did it would have much more power and would totally destroy the BMW "M" cars at Nurburgring or on any other tracks
@@desicollector German cars are over engineering one they not work
This was exiting to watch, nice drifts !!
Except this isn't drifting. In this type of racing drifting is undesirable and costs speed / time.
He did have a couple of slidey moments.
He did powerslides XD not drifts
Steven Hamilton what kind of racing was he doing there? maybe he was there to drift, or just have some fun. It's not like it was a race for fucks sake
3:07, It was S2000 vs M4...until....Godzilla entered the show.
And it just fuckin enters the game casually
S2000 is better and more fun to drive
M4 is faster on track. Driver was not serious. Haven't u heard about M5 ring taxis.
NSX SPOON .😂
That GT-R was like "Too soon junior"
Gtr say bay bay
Yeah on straightline speed and double if not triple the cost. You can get a used S200 with high miles a lot of places for 10k still... The GTR belongs in the Supra, rx7, NSX, v12, v16 block.... of cars the average joe can't afford.
10k usd,?
@@PermacultureLongboarder 10k? Where? Magic Unicorn Land? Here in Europe they start at 20k €, not $.
@@krautworks 12k euros here in greece
The BMW driver just doesn't know the track yet, i think. It takes many dozen laps to fully learn this track, it's not like some other short racetrack you can learn in 10 laps or so. So the BMW driver is driving cautiously in a faster car, and Xav_S2000 is driving all-out in a slower car with proper track knowledge.
Idd right 😃
Nope. Honda is simply superior in every way.
Mike Miller you need to drink more water so you can learn the tracks easier!! 10 laps for laguna seca or this nordeschlief or anyone i think its too much!!!! XD
Mike Miller thank you captain obvious
Cautious or just bad at corners, his etiquette is bad.
GTR is like pardon me just coming thru
Simple Skyline who gives a shit about gtr? Its an ugly pice of shit
it isn't but we can't all like the same ahahah it's still one of the best cars ever created :D
Dimitris Galanos cmon now GTR is nice looking car.
no man its ugly for me at least.... my kind of car is a m3 e92/f80 or a nice Italian designed Ferrari-lambo-pagani etc..... I love all Italian cars
Simple Skyline That statement gave me cancer...
Impressionnant.
Cette S2000 tient le pavé, pour sûr!
Le pilote a l'air de Bien connaître sa voiture, et le circuit.
Je n'aurais pas pensé qu'il tiendrait la M4, et encore moins qu'il la passe.
Du grand art et beaucoup de plaisir.
Y'a des contrebraquages hallucinants et super bien contrôlés.
Merci et bravo.
Hein JMR?!!! ;-)
The guy on the passenger seat with no helmet on and he doesnt show any sign of fear at all => he is the BOSS.
That is not Honda S2000 vs BMW M4. That is Honda S2000 driver vs BMW M4.driver....
50/50
Totally agree... One driver knows the track, the other doesn't
Dont be stupid even if they swapped drivers BMW has no chance! 😃 424bhp vs 240bhp - brand new vs 15yrs old 😩 What a legend of a car
B Torun
The brand new 400+bhp car has no chance against a 230-240bhp honda? 😂
Don't even reply.
Gaz B No it definitely dont as you can see in video, I own the same s2k and there are so many m4’s around me including my neighbours one. They can only win in a drag race, even then on the straight they can barely overtake me, in a track no chance (not them silly nascar tracks though) twin cam allowing 9k revs, lights chassis, agressive gearing ratios, no chance, your just full off Gass B. Do you know why the s2k held the power to weight record for 10years? until loosing it to the ferrari 458 in 2010, because of the outstanding engineering. This is high IQ stuff, this aint no hellcat 😂
Driving skills level god, very nice pilot 👏👏👏
That S2000 showed some amazing driving some really impressive cornering and braking, I could see a lot of confidence in the driving, the M4 driver, however, didn't seem as confident and it showed when braking in the corners, the M$ driver could probably have carried more speed in the corners.
The m4 is considerably heavier than an S2K and appears to be on stock tires. S2K is on semislicks essentially with a very fast driver.
The confidence probably came from the difference in value, put the Honda in the wall not too bad, put the M4 in the wall it’s a mortgage your paying back for a tin of beans
@@derekga6973 u know that a s2000 here is not cheap either? Here a clean one will cost u 25-30k€.....thats a lot in both cases but i get what u mean
The driver is fucking know how to drive a car. *clap*
7:18 is the most epic thing ive seen. that slide and counter steer
yeah, thats nothing special, its called a drift 😂
Short wheel base, 50:50 weight dist., front-mid engine layout.
High speed, cold weather, elevation change, passenger.
Ran up on curbing mid drift, full lock, perfect recovery.
One of the best real life amateur racing drifts I've ever seen.
what do you mean? non car fanatic here just wondering
That this car is really hard to drive at speeds like this. You can see, that the car is always trying to oversteer in the turn. S2000 is really deadly and it needs to have some skill to drive like this on the edge.
Money doesnt buy skill. M4 driver was probably crying after haha. #hondaforever
@@hearingvisions7307 Yes there is. Bmws are shit
the bmw driver was also a very good driver. but the s2000 is very good in corners
@@supertreme5559 No, the bmw driver was not a good driver, took the wrong lines and was braking where he shouldnt. Video should be called "S2000 vs slow driver in an M4"
Hearing Visions there are lots of crying bmw drivers, when they have to see mechanic lol
@@machucast I got the fealing that BMW driver just did not knew the track at all.
Great driving skill, what a save at 5:56 and 7:23
僕は日本でS2000 TYPE Sに乗っています。TYPE Sではエアロによる安定性、アンダーステア寄りのセッティング、さらにはトラクションコントールが付いていて僕のような初心者にはうってつけの車です。ですがあなたのようなスーパードライバーの運転するAP1には敵いません…素晴らしい映像をありがとうございます🙏
Thank you for the compliment from France.
The Honda S2000. The best thing ever crafted by humanity.
hahah. thats cute
I would say the Su-35, but opinions are like noses, everybody has one ;)
wtf is pangazi? :D
yeah wtf is a Pangazi. Is that a Chinese clone of some supercar?
παλι εσυ ; Φιλαρακι βλέπεις καθαρα ότι ο αδηγος στην bmw δεν ξερει να οδηγαει σε πιστα . Πηγαινε δες τους χρονους για να καταλάβεις τι είναι πιο γρηγορο και τι όχι
This guy can DRIVE!!! Awesome job!!!
Driver using all safety equipments. I am not sure the other guy has a seat belt on :D
He's holding onto the windscreen, he'll be alright.
Str8representing 7😂
The full throttle, full lock drift @about 7:23, right after passing the BMW for the second time, was spectacular. And they were both like, so? Wanna go. Wanna go there. Wanna go to Germany...🙏
Honda S2000 is a great machine
Angeloti Palirno, your right about that
A Notlooking bmw like heinz beans,57 different varieties,every cunt and there grannys got one
Craig Vickery ahahahaha good one
*Car
A Notlooking Try beating the S2000 when the BMW runs out of warranty :)
The GTR with AWD says: "get out of the way". 😂😂😂
This S2000 was tuned for sure! And the guy on M4 is a bad driver!
Always learning breaking too early
GTR is a dull dull car, if the honda had the same power, or even a 100 more, he would've taken the GTR
No way is he a bad driver ,friend....go there( take it you have,not) he is going hard believe me, any lap close to 8 mins real time is mental fast for the ring,but the Honda guy is braver
Darren Lucas I agree with you, an 8 min lap at the Ring is mental. Hell, even a lap in the 9+ range is scary to be honest. The Ring is a really unique and scary place, can't compare to other tracks in the world and those who had only seen the track on TH-cam or videogames can't figure how these tight corners, slopes and elevation changes look in real life. It's like a freaking roller coaster if you ask me. The track is narrow too, with portions of the pavement always moist (even in most summer days), so you can experience grip changes in a matter of a few metters, while in a braking point for example. Also, camber angle is a real bitch in some corners.
Anyway, with all this, I still think the M4 driver is not great or he doesn't know the track well. It's not a matter of bravery IMHO. His lines are all over the place, he doesn't use properly the available track width, his technique is definetly not refined and it's clear that he relies too much on power. The S2k driver is much faster at every single corner while still being much more refined and delicated driving on the limit. To me, it's obvious that he has much more seat time not only at the Ring but any other track.
Well written.....I don't think you could say it much better, I just get a little miffed at times with all these comments about so called " bad" drivers by people that don't have a clue what the ring is like and I couldn't help myself that day to reply lol😂,hey ho.
I went twice and my balls are,not big enough......it's like a trackday is a GCSE, the ring is a Master's degree....enough said.
5:53 Thats what i call skills
S2000 is always tail happy if you gas it around a corner...
7:19 This bit i think is even more impressive than the one you pointed out
5:53 on purpose, 7:19 counter
Oh yea!
@@alexandrion2876 7:19: That one was clearly a recovery from a bit too much enthusiasm. That' will tighten your sphincter every time!
The only racing video I watched till the end. Almost made me feel as if I was in the passenger seat. Sitting with the driver like that makes you feel like there is nothing that can go wrong.
same here ✌
I very rarely sit and watch a 9 minute TH-cam video from start to finish but I did with yours.
Very entertaining from start to finish and looked like a lot of fun!
+superbracey Thanks!
Best Nurgburgring video I have watched. Car was on the very edge from start to finish!
If an 8 min 30 sec time is the best you have watched, you need to watch more, lol.
TasteMyStinkhole It's not about the time. it's about the drama. 😉
Magnificent driving, truly superb, wish I could drive my S2000 like that!
I gotta say I love my s2000. It’s hands down the most fun you can have in a car being able to test its full potential
That s2k was 200 lbs non necessary heavier...
It also wasnt stock
S2k yano 😂😂😂
Great driving performance😀 The S 2000 may look cute, but that's a beast, in fact.
You are a very good driver. They are also watching in South Korea
Who are they?
@@EmpanadaDeCaca bad translate. Probably meant "watching from korea" or something
Your country is nice, but I would rather go to best Korea.
Something quite sinister about this comment
Well, in Korea, we actually learn english from very young age. But for some shitty reason, that english education is not really useful when we actually have to communicate with english users like you guys. Sad thing, isn't it? So don't blame him. It's not his fault. It's a fault of the way how to teach a language of our country.
At 5:52 when he enters the corner a little hot and starts that tail happy S2k sliding, my man instinctively started to correct it then halfway through transferring the weight to correct the slide he decided to casually drift it on through the turn... AWESOME DRIVING 😎
Wow proper driving skills mate.
Damn this driver can drive!
xD the passenger is scared as f**k... look at his handmovements the hole time
Sto qui ha del manico!!! Niente da dire davvero! Complimenti
That’s what the S2000 is capable of behind good hands👏🏻👏🏻Well done mate great driving skills
Godzilla passing thru. 😍
Lmao that's not an R32.
Anyways, did you see how much faster the S2000 was in the corners?
Different comfort level is reason of different speed in the corners. S2000 is roadster, like Z4. Absolutely different cars. S2000 is a little bigger than cart and no even normal trunk. But in BMW you can sit with your wife, dog, grandmaa, childrens in same time ang go whatever you want with this big company, and you will be a little bit slower that f@king sport ready roadster with no space and no comfort. Think about ths first.
@@nauvofact993 Nah, there's not enough space in the trunk. You need a wagon to do that. When you're talking about sportscars, family space doesn't matter. It's all about speed, agility through corners and fun.
Vol deMort ,fleetingly!
lmao only driver need a full helmet???
lol I was thinking the same thing. To be fair, if that car flips over, you're fucked either way lol.
Vanneker the helmet is there to keep his driving skills in!
He'd be faster wearing it than not.
Ha...thinking the same thing. The passenger is just chillin there like he's going in a nice sunday drive, hardly any reactions. If it were me riding shotgun!? while riding along on that track id have been laughing/screaming my ass off at those speeds. Especially during the hard breaking & turns and especially the WOT on the starightaways with the slight inclines leading into near-blind-turns
He doesn't seem to use seatbelts too...
3:08 GT-Rocketship says "cute race, move over"
Wow this is one of the best video of the nürburgring here on youtube. The driver is so damn skilled and i absolutly love this car. The engine is a masterpiece
Godzilla goes...gtfo out of my way btichess
Exactly what I was looking for
a good ole stick shift. Now we're separating the real drivers from the pack! 🍻
yes man yes!!! good pilot very nice and good car.. 😉
Wow great driving! I've been owning and racing S2000s for over 15 years and I thought I can drive that car well.. But you have great skills! Awesome stuff man, respect!
Looks like the BMW driver is very capable (in a straight line).
+Gordon Clark
The BMW did seem to have a very well tuned engine under the hood, but he was going really slow around the corners, as if he didn't have the traction to go faster.
He might have been an all-season tires, they don't perform that well on a racetrack.
+Grumpy ol' Boot Thanks for the explanation. There is always an explanation that needs to be considered.
+Gordon Clark
Well, to be fair, he wasn't THAT slow, he did after all do a lap almost as fast as the S2000 driver. :D
He could also just have been overly cautious.
But I think his main issue was lack of grip because of tires.
Just my opinion, ofcourse, I could be wrong - but it would fit his behavior.
But you're absolutely right, there's almost always something to consider that you might not know about just from watching a video of them.
+Grumpy ol' Boot You are right. The tires of the M4 are less efficient than mine. This degrades the speed cornering and braking distances.
+Xav_ S2000
Ah, good to hear I'm not just talking rubbish. :)
On a sidenote:
It looks like your upgrade have been centered around better grip and lighter weight, rather than more brawn from the engine.
Which has the happy upside to it, that the engine doesn't have to be serviced nearly as often as a heavily tuned engine.
that counter steer at 7:19!
5:30 fucking TDI driver.
Klutch Haha. That made me laugh. Bloody Seat
Lmfao
Klutch Eco diesel :)
Helmut Green
"Clean Diesel" haha :D
Well, it's still Tourist Driving, not a race. He has all the right making that pass, then move over. If you drive there, you have to keep in mind not everybody is driving supercars.
The corner speed that this car can carry its masterclass. Masterpiece of engine . Masterpiece of car . Honda S2000 one of the greatest car ever made in my humble opinion
My question is... Why on earth is the passenger NOT wearing a helmet?
Michael Tita because that pilot is to good for crash! XD just joking
Michael Tita Thats the very first thing I asked :-/
Crazy bastard, with so many amateur drivers around aswell... not cool, no clever.
Michael Tita because if they flipped...those helmets will not be saving either of them
b00stedrust And as everybody knows, flipping is the only thing that can happen on a track...
Because that what I was implying. fucking moron..
Jesus fucking christ your Honda handles like a dream.
The bit with the diesel-Leon made me laugh.
Also, the passenger has balls of steel the size of watermelons, the guys just sitting there all casually lol.
You're an hell of a driver dude.
What an immersive experience created by this brilliant driver! I am in shear awe of these skills.